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[AUDIENCE MEMBER] Hi, I am
a retired schoolteacher.

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And I love your program,
watch you all the time.

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And I know you're a
brilliant journalist.

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But what comes to my
mind when I hear you,

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and watch your segment is that

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I called you in my
mind the examiner.

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Because you don't just ask
a question and get a reply.

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You always go a little
bit more in depth.

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And I always appreciate that.

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So my question to you is,
what teacher in your life

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made the most impact?
[SCOTT PELLEY] Marjorie Wilson.

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Marjorie Wilson. [EVAN
SMITH] Talk about Ms. Wilson.

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[PELLEY] She's in the book.

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My journalism teacher
at Coronado High School

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in Lubbock Texas.

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She was on fire to teach.

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If she had been teaching
accounting, I'd be a CPA today.

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(audience laughing)

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It didn't matter what
she was teaching.

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She was on fire to teach, and
she was teaching journalism,

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so she made journalism
seem like the most noble,

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most exciting profession
you could possibly be in.

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And, we have all had
teachers like that.

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They are unfortunately a
little rare in the universe.

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But Marjorie Wilson
was the reason

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I went into journalism.

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She's the reason I'm sitting
here speaking with you today.

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[SMITH] Yeah, we don't talk
about those teachers enough.

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I'm glad you had a
chance to do that.

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[PELLEY] Thank you for
your service to our country,

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by the way.

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[PELLEY] Thank you
for your service

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to our country.
(applauding)

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Teachers are national heroes.

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[SMITH] Hi.
[AUDIENCE MEMBER] Hi.

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Well, boy, she really teed
up my question to you, too.

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Because I also was a
student of Marjorie Wilson,

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and worked with
her husband Bill!

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[SMITH] Look at that! [AUDIENCE
MEMBER] And the last time

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I was in the room
with Scott Pelley

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I think he was
just past puberty.

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(audience laughing)
[PELLEY] Probably.

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER] This
young kid in the newsroom

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at the Lubbock
Avalanche-Journal--

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[PELLEY] Yes! [AUDIENCE
MEMBER] We were wondering,

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who is this?

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And then my husband comes home

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who works for KEND
Radio, The Living End.

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And he said, yeah, Scott's
spotted there, too.

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I guess I'd just say,
a lotta your fans here

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would probably like to
know, other than Ms. Wilson,

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how did you get the
gumption, at the age you did,

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to just go and hang
out at newsrooms?

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And how did that inspire
the rest of your career?

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[PELLEY] You know
gumption just seemed

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to be part of the DNA

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of the Pelley family.
(laughing)

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I don't know where
it comes from!

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But, I was in Marjorie Wilson's

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journalism class during the day.

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And through that,

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I learned that the
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal

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hired copy boys, gender
insensitive today,

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but that's what they called us,

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to work the three
to midnight shift,

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which was perfect for
somebody in high school.

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But I had a temporal problem,

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they only hired kids who were
16 and above, and I was 15.

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So I did what anyone would do.

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I went in and lied about my age.

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[SMITH] Lied about your age.
(laughing)

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Perhaps a proud
American tradition.

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[PELLEY] And they hired me.

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And my mother, my
co-conspirator,
would drop me off

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a couple of blocks
from the paper

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so nobody could see that I
didn't have a drivers license.

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(audience laughing)

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And I worked the three
to midnight shift

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there as a copy boy.

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About a year went by,

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and the executive
editor of the paper,

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a guy named Dave Knapp,
always wore a white shirt,

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had a silver crew cut,
kinda Marine Corps bearing.

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He walks into the wire
room where I worked,

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and I'm working on my
high school homework.

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And he sits down, and he says,

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"Do you want to be a reporter?"

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And I said "Well, I don't know,

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"I haven't given
it any thought."

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He said "Well, do
you or don't you?"

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(audience laughing)
And I said.

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"Well sure, I guess."

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And he walked me out in
front of this machine

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which some of you will remember,

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it was called a typewriter.
(laughing)

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I had no idea how to
operate this machine,

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but I've been a
reporter ever since.

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And that's how it
all got launched,

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but thanks to Marjorie
Wilson...and a lie.

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER]
Thanks for being here.

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[PELLEY] My search for
the truth began with a lie.

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[SMITH] Began right there.
(laughing)

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I want to set expectations,
how long do we have?

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[FLOOR MANAGER]
About four minutes.

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[SMITH] Can I take these three?

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[FLOOR MANAGER] We'll see.
[SMITH] Will you permit?

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OK, very well. [PELLEY]
Depends on how windy I am.

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(audience laughing)

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[PELLEY] Go ahead. [AUDIENCE
MEMBER] Another fellow Texan

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who has a book out called
"Becoming the News,"

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it was her dissertation
where she interviewed people

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who had been
interviewed by the press

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to get their feedback
on how they felt

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that process treated them.
[PELLEY] Really interesting.

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER]
I'm just wondering

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if you've ever had a chance

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to reflect back
on how interviews

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that you've conducted have gone

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from the perspective of the
person being interviewed.

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I'm sure you've
gotten some feedback,

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plus or minus over the years.

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[PELLEY] What is the
name of that book?

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER]
"Becoming the News."

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[PELLEY] "Becoming the News."

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[PELLEY] "Becoming the News,"

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER]
By Ruth Palmer.

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[PELLEY] I'm gonna get
ahold of this today,

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that's a fascinating idea.

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[SMITH] It's an
interesting question.

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I always think that for those
of us who do interviews,

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the most useful thing
is to be interviewed.

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To be on the other side of the
table and see how that goes.

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[PELLEY] Yes.
[SMITH] Do you reflect

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on whether you
come on too strong

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or was I fair to this person?
[PELLEY] Oh, absolutely.

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[SMITH] Self-reflective.
[PELLEY] Very, very much so.

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Every interview I do.

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You know,

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I have discovered
over these many years

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that what people consider
to be bias in the media

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is really bias in the viewing.

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If I do an interview with
the president, any president,

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we will get tons
of emails and mail

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coming in to "60 Minutes."

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This one will say,
you dirty Democrat.

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You tried to get him,
and you couldn't.

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And then the next one
is, you dirty Republican,

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you let him walk, and you didn't
ask him any hard questions.

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And then the mail
kinda piles up, 50/50.

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[SMITH] That's right.
[PELLEY] It's very interesting

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to see how people
view the interviews.

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In terms of the interviewees,
I can't think of a time,

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this is a fault,

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I can't think of a time
that I ever circled back

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to somebody and said
so what do you think

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about how that went?
[SMITH] How'd this go?

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[PELLEY] But I'm
gonna get that book.

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER] Yeah.
[PELLEY] Thank you for that.

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER]
It's worth reading.

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[PELLEY] Yeah, fascinating.

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[SMITH] Has there been any time,

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without going into
too much detail,

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has there been any time
when you did an interview

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and walked away and thought,

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I wasn't fair to that person?

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Or I blew that, I
missed that in some way?

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I've certainly had that.
[PELLEY] Every once in a while

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you're brushing your
teeth the next morning

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and you think of the question

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that you should've asked, right?

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[SMITH] Right.

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[PELLEY] That
does happen, yeah.

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[SMITH] Yeah, it does, great.

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Sir!

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER] As a
teacher for 34 years,

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I was glad to hear your
comment on your teacher.

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What did you want to be
before she changed your mind?

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[PELLEY] Astronaut.
[SMITH] Astronaut.

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[PELLEY] Yeah.

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I was a boy growing
up in the 1960s.

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I mean, what boy
growing up in the '60s

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didn't want to be
an astronaut, right?

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[SMITH] And in Texas, right?

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[PELLEY] And in
Texas, absolutely.

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We were going to the moon!

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We, the whole country, we
were all going to the moon.

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And so I really wanted
to be part of that.

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And I was in the,
I was a finalist

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in NASA's Journalist
in Space program.

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After Christa McAuliffe,
the high school teacher--

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[SMITH] '87, '86.
[PELLEY] --the next passenger

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was gonna be a journalist.

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But, of course,
after the disaster

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they canceled the program.

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[SMITH] That's too bad.

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Well, maybe you could embed
with the Space Force, actually?

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[PELLEY] Well maybe I can.
I'd love to! (laughing)

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[SMITH] Yeah, yeah.

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER]
I've been a great fan

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of "CBS Morning News"

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and "Evening News" and there's
been a lot of upheaval lately

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that I haven't been
real happy with.

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What I just wonder is,
where is John Dickerson?

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[PELLEY] Oh, I'm
so glad you asked!

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Because he's with me.
[AUDIENCE MEMBER] Oh!

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[PELLEY] He has just
moved in to his bright,

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shiny, new office
at "60 Minutes."

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And you're gonna be
seeing him on "60 Minutes"

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several times this season.

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But he's now a full time
"60 Minutes" correspondent.

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And we are thrilled
to have him--

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[SMITH] He's a great guy.
[PELLEY] --especially going in

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to an election year,
because of his deep contacts

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and great understanding of the
American electorate, as well.

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[AUDIENCE MEMBER] Thank you.
[SMITH] Good question.

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[PELLEY] Yeah. [SMITH] OK,
we've landed the plane safely,

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isn't that great?
(audience laughing)

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Please give Scott
Pelley a big hand.

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Thank him for being here.
[PELLEY] Oh, thank you.

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(applauding)
Thank you very much.

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[SMITH] Thanks to all of
you, and we'll see you!

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(applauding)

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[PELLEY] Thanks everyone,
thank you! (applauding)