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- I'm left picturing 
Inspector Clouseau.

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- It is a little bit.

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- I spend a good 
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with the question 
of the Middle East.

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How do we find peace.

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And in my own life, 
how do I find peace

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in relationship and the home.

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It seems there are 
parallels there.

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There is a great writer 
in the Middle East, Oz,

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that wrote a small book 
called "Help Us To Divorce."

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And it seems that in all 
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that you described, 
managing differences is

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at the core of the 
reaction that's going on.

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Can you speak to that?

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- Well, you're 
referring to Amos Oz

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who's a brilliant 
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probably the greatest living 
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I was interviewing him once

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and he said something to 
me that was so profound.

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He said "Here's the 
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"and the rest of humanity."

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And he said, "You Americans 
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"that breaking bread together,

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"will help you 
overcome differences."

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Most of the rest of the 
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It's not that we don't 
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that's the problem.

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It's that we do 
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irreconcilable differences.

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Which comes to, it's a cynical

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or depressing kind of view.

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using the Israeli-Palestinian 
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are there Palestinians and 
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on the same plane of 
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and can figure out a way

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to have a divorce built 
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Are there people 
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in the same room and said, 
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would end up trying 
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with the butter knives?

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in their view of perfection,

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perfection doesn't 
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of the other person.

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And you're not 
going to change it.

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The American civic 
religion is solutionism.

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There's a problem, and 
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with a solution.

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this is the greatest 
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because we just fix things.

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We just, we just tackle them.

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We always get, you know--

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but we're on a 
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towards something better.

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It doesn't always work that way.

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divorce, amicable 
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an enforcable divorce, in a 
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It's not idealistic.

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It's not we shall overcome.

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I tend to think that the 
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need a divorce for 
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And they need to 
heal, get healed.

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And then who knows 
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would look like in 150 years?

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but I think divorce is sometimes

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the best thing you 
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Ma'am.

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- Kind of an unformed 
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What women in the Muslim world,

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Are they just so 
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What's happening with 
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that could help with this?

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Do you have any clue 
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to focus on when 
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I don't know enough about it,

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except to know that 
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Teenagers are very 
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They're sold a certain 
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to ISIS territory and 
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- You're talking about 
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becoming part of ISIS?

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Or, like the young, 
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who are going.

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You ask a very 
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because the President has 
his view very profoundly.

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the story as saying--

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and here I think he's 
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but this goes much 
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"will never be a 
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if you consider this a 
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His perspective is, until 
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in a society is actually used,

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and until women are given 
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And this is why, going to this 
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he knows that there are 
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America can try to 
stop the Chinese navy

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from interfering with 
Filipino shipping, right?

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That's something that 
a president can do.

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make Saudi Arabia 
treat women better.

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then it'll move 
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that makes it resemble more--

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but then you're just 
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- Doesn't that seem to 
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which can't agree on whether 
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could agree on?

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Isn't there some 
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if we could affect 
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where rights are not what 
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that we should be 
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- I think we are.

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I mean, you see 
this on the margins.

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- [Host] It's not a 
controversial issue.

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- No, no, it's not.

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It's certainly not 
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but it's not misogyny of 
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"We're gonna whip you if 
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"without a male escort" 
level of misogyny.

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- This is one of those 
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of democratic values, or the 
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- But, it's a slow process,

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and you can't force 
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You know, as Americans, 
I think this is something

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that's very American.

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We believe that, basically, 
for all of the problems

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that we have, we believe

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that we have a pretty 
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A lot of things need 
fixing, but this is a--

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We look at other people 
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and sort of scratch 
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"Why would you live like that,

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"when you could live like this?"

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But they do, and they 
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I spent a lot of time 
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You'd kind of look 
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"You know, it doesn't 
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But there are certain 
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But it doesn't mean 
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Again, you can't do this stuff

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These are generational problems.

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I think what you said about 
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Or some of the other things.

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You've got a limited 
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and you look at 
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that you have on your 
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"and I can't affect 
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"I'm just going 
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- Right, right.

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The cultural stuff, 
the religious stuff is

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much harder to 
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than some of the--

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- Well, Michele Obama is 
going around educating.

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- That's huge.

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But don't expect--

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We're also Americans, so 
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and instant gratification.

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Should we be bringing 
Muslim women here,

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for education?

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Yeah, in huge numbers.

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Should they go home a 
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about the conditions at home?

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Will that encourage 
people to bring more girls

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Over time, yeah, I hope.

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- But will the world be fixed 
by this well-meaning effort?

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If at all, it's going 
to take a long time.

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- No, no, see you have 
a short-term problem

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of ISIS and a long-term problem

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of fixing this stuff.

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- We'll get one more.

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- Okay, one very quick 
comment and then a question.

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You all spoke about the 
fact that the Arab Spring

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kind of showed Obama 
that Israel and Palestine

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don't actually 
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And the comment is that, 
I think it's interesting.

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My father's actually Lebanese.

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One of his defenses 
for Bashar al-Assad,

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at least in the early days 
in the Syrian civil war was,

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he's the only one who 
will stand up to Israel.

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I think a lot of people still 
say that in the Arab world.

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Assad was, apparently, 
had paid some activist

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to rush the Israeli border 
in order to distract

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That's just a comment.

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Related to that, I think 
with the Arab Spring

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and the rise of ISIS 
and all of this,

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a lot of attention 
has been drawn away

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from Israel-Palestine.

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Currently, you know, 
there's this rash

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of stabbings and more 
and more brinkmanship

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between the Israelis 
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that is really kind of rising 
into the Third Entifada

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or something like that.

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The biggest wave of violence 
we've seen in recent years.

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Just the other day, 
there was this instant

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where an Israeli soldier 
shot a wounded Palestinian.

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on the ground.

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That's just going to 
lead to more incitement.

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So do you see a more hot 
war developing there,

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that could have some 
large consequences

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because we're not 
paying attention to it?

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- Right, right.

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Let me be clear.

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I think that solving the 
Israeli-Palestinian conflict

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is important for the 
sake of that conflict.

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And you're also right 
that if it got worse,

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the spill-over 
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But, compared to raw death toll,

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or sort of raw 
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Syria is probably the 
greatest cataclysm,

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one of the great cataclysms 
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at this point.

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By the way, your first 
point is very interesting.

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4,000 Palestinians 
have been killed

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by the Assad regime 
since this war started.

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4,000.

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- [Man at the Mic] 
And how many Syrians?

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- Maybe half a million.

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And no one seems to 
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that Assad is 
slaughtering Palestinians.

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It's a very interesting 
sort of hierarchy of--

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There's outrage when X kills Y,

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but not when Y kills Z.

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It's a very strange thing.

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On your broader point, yeah,

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I'd have to agree with you.

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I think American presidents 
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to try to fix that problem.

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Because it is one of our 
civilizational super stories.

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Right? Bringing the 
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back together again is a huge--

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You don't get that same 
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out of fixing Nagorno-Karabakh, 
or something, right?

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There's no romance to it.

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I would have to say that 
your analysis is correct.

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If it gets worse, 
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to pay more attention 
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we would have to intervene 
in a more direct way.

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And, I tend to think, this is--

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Again, I didn't come 
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but I think Obama 
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that both Netanyahu, 
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and also Abbas, that 
you really don't get.

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That the status quo 
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You can't just keep going 
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without having really, 
really bad effects.

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So what Obama's been 
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to do is push, 
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but also Abbas to sort 
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while there's still 
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some level of 
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that you're referring to.

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- And then on top of that, if 
I can make one more comment.

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If there's the risk 
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into Lebanon, that actually 
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this time compared to 2006.

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For people that don't 
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Syria, basically, hugs Lebanon.

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So people have nowhere 
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which isn't--

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- So you're actually right.

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The big nightmare is one big war

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that stretches from 
Iraq all the way

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through Syria, Jordan, Lebanon

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and then down into 
Israel and even Gaza.

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And, of course, the Sinai is 
under the control of ISIS.

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You could imagine a 
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where it's one chess game, 
but on eight different levels.

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It's sort of a 3D chess board.

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That is a nightmare.

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This is where the 
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of the President can come in.

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Is that, only the 
U.S. has the power

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to shape Middle Eastern reality,

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and you didn't do 
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before it became a catalysm.

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- And that is or is not 
a legitimate observation?

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- I think it's a 
legitimate observation.

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It's not a solvable question,

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because he'll say, 
"No, you're wrong,

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"and here's why."

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And I'll say, "No, I'm 
right, and here's why."

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But we're all playing in theory.

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- Steve is telling 
me we've got to stop.

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We have a hard out today.

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Jeff Goldberg was 
great to give us some

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of his time while 
he was in town.

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Hopefully we'll get him back.

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(applause)

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- Thank you very much.

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I had a great time.

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(applause)