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SPEAKER, WELCOME. 01:24.818 --> 01:26.119 VERY NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE. 01:26.119 --> 01:27.821 THANKS FOR COMING. 01:27.821 --> 01:28.655 CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK. 01:28.655 --> 01:29.055 >> THANK YOU AM. 01:29.055 --> 01:30.156 >> THIS IS THE THIRD NOVEL 01:30.156 --> 01:31.958 IN A SERIES ABOUT WASHINGTON 01:31.958 --> 01:32.992 AND THAT ERA OF OUR 01:32.992 --> 01:34.094 COUNTRY'S HISTORY. 01:34.094 --> 01:35.095 CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY YOU 01:35.095 --> 01:35.895 WROTE IT AND WHERE YOU ARE 01:35.895 --> 01:37.230 IN THE SERIES RIGHT NOW? 01:37.230 --> 01:38.531 >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, 01:38.531 --> 01:39.132 DEPENDING UPON WHETHER OR 01:39.132 --> 01:40.033 NOT WE CAN CONVINCE OUR 01:40.033 --> 01:41.434 PUBLISHER, I WANT TO GO BACK 01:41.434 --> 01:43.937 AND WRITE WASHINGTON THE 01:43.937 --> 01:45.138 WILDERNESS WHICH COVERS HIM 01:45.138 --> 01:46.740 AS A VERY YOUNG MAN DURING 01:46.740 --> 01:48.508 THE FRENCH-INDIAN WAR, WHICH 01:48.508 --> 01:49.509 IS A PERIOD ALMOST NOBODY 01:49.509 --> 01:50.310 HAS WRITTEN ABOUT IN A 01:50.310 --> 01:53.146 SERIOUS WAY. 01:53.146 --> 01:54.848 WE STARTED TO TRY MEN'S 01:54.848 --> 01:57.050 SOULS, WHICH IS WASHINGTON 01:57.050 --> 01:58.151 CROSSING THE DELAWARE ON 01:58.151 --> 01:59.352 CHRISTMAS NIGHT IN AN ICE 01:59.352 --> 02:02.856 STORM WITH SNOW -- WITH 02:02.856 --> 02:05.759 ENORMOUS SNOWSTORM WITH ICE 02:05.759 --> 02:07.394 IN THE RIVER, MARCHING NINE 02:07.394 --> 02:11.865 MILES AT NIGHT TO SURPRISE A 02:11.865 --> 02:13.466 GERMAN PROFESSIONAL UNIT AND 02:13.466 --> 02:15.368 CAPTURE 800 MEN AT THE LOSS 02:15.368 --> 02:16.569 OF ONE AMERICAN DEAD. 02:16.569 --> 02:17.771 IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST 02:17.771 --> 02:18.972 EXTRAORDINARY GAMBLES IN 02:18.972 --> 02:20.173 AMERICAN HISTORY AND SAVED 02:20.173 --> 02:21.608 THE REVOLUTION FROM 02:21.608 --> 02:25.712 COLLAPSE. 02:25.712 --> 02:27.547 THEN WE WROTE VALLEY FORGE 02:27.547 --> 02:28.948 WHICH CAPTURES THE WHOLE 02:28.948 --> 02:30.150 TRAUMA OF THE AMERICAN ARMY 02:30.150 --> 02:31.251 IN THE WINTER AND THE 02:31.251 --> 02:32.652 EMERGENCE OF THE ARMY UNDER 02:32.652 --> 02:35.855 THE TRAINING OF BARREN VON 02:35.855 --> 02:37.390 STEUBEN UNDER A MODERN 02:37.390 --> 02:38.391 SYSTEM CAPABLE OF FIGHTING 02:38.391 --> 02:38.992 THE BRITISH. 02:38.992 --> 02:40.126 NOW WE FINALLY HAVE 02:40.126 --> 02:41.928 WASHINGTON AND VICTORY AT 02:41.928 --> 02:45.865 YORKTOWN TAKING AN ENORMOUS 02:45.865 --> 02:47.467 STRATEGIC GAMBLE. 02:47.467 --> 02:48.968 HE CANNOT CAPTURE NEW YORK 02:48.968 --> 02:49.969 BECAUSE OF THE ROYAL NAVY. 02:49.969 --> 02:51.071 THE COUNTRY IS GETTING VERY 02:51.071 --> 02:52.072 TIRED OF THE WAR. 02:52.072 --> 02:53.073 THEY'VE BEEN AT IT SIX 02:53.073 --> 02:53.273 YEARS. 02:53.273 --> 02:54.307 THE FRENCH TROOPS ARE 02:54.307 --> 02:55.508 SITTING IN RHODE ISLAND WITH 02:55.508 --> 02:57.110 A VERY SMALL NAVY. 02:57.110 --> 02:58.611 WASHINGTON HAS TAKEN A THIRD 02:58.611 --> 03:00.013 OF HIS ARMY AND SENT IT DOWN 03:00.013 --> 03:03.149 TO SOUTH UNDER GENERAL GREEN 03:03.149 --> 03:05.051 AND THEY ARE SLOWLY CHEWING 03:05.051 --> 03:07.754 UP GENERAL CORNWALLIS' 03:07.754 --> 03:09.055 BRITISH ARMY WHO FIGHTS THEM 03:09.055 --> 03:10.557 IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NORTH 03:10.557 --> 03:11.758 CAROLINA AND VIRGINIA AND 03:11.758 --> 03:13.059 ENDS UP RETREATING TO THE 03:13.059 --> 03:15.261 PENINSULA AT YORKTOWN. 03:15.261 --> 03:16.763 WASHINGTON DECIDES HE WILL 03:16.763 --> 03:21.701 MARCH -- HE WILL BRING THE 03:21.701 --> 03:22.802 FRENCH FROM RHODE ISLAND TO 03:22.802 --> 03:23.903 NEW YORK, MASK THE BRITISH 03:23.903 --> 03:24.904 THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING 03:24.904 --> 03:27.507 ON, TAKE A THREE OR FOUR DAY 03:27.507 --> 03:28.908 HA LEAD, MARCH TO VIRGINIA 03:28.908 --> 03:30.143 AND HOPE THAT THE FRENCH 03:30.143 --> 03:34.147 NAVY WILL ARRIVE TO SEAL OFF 03:34.147 --> 03:34.647 YORKTOWN. 03:34.647 --> 03:36.383 THIS IS AN ENORMOUS MORAL 03:36.383 --> 03:39.419 AND STRATEGIC GAMBLE AND 03:39.419 --> 03:40.220 HE'S DOING IT BECAUSE HE 03:40.220 --> 03:41.121 THINKS THE COUNTRY HAS ABOUT 03:41.121 --> 03:42.322 RUN OUT OF ENERGY AND IF 03:42.322 --> 03:44.457 THEY DON'T WIN A VICTORY THE 03:44.457 --> 03:45.558 COUNTRY WILL COLLAPSE AND 03:45.558 --> 03:46.359 NEGOTIATE WITH THE BRITISH. 03:46.359 --> 03:47.460 >> PRETTY EXCITING. 03:47.460 --> 03:48.361 >> WELL, GREAT MOMENT. 03:48.361 --> 03:50.063 THE ONLY TIME IN THE ENTIRE 03:50.063 --> 03:51.064 WAR THAT YOU SEE WASHINGTON 03:51.064 --> 03:52.465 LOSE SELF CONTROL IS WHEN HE 03:52.465 --> 03:54.100 SEES THE FRENCH FLEET. 03:54.100 --> 03:56.703 AND HE LITERALLY IS 03:56.703 --> 03:57.504 DESCRIBED BY SEVERAL 03:57.504 --> 03:58.905 WITNESSES AS SEEMING AS 03:58.905 --> 04:00.306 THOUGH HE WERE CRAZY BECAUSE 04:00.306 --> 04:02.409 HE'S DANCING AROUND AND HE'S 04:02.409 --> 04:03.309 YELLING AND HE HAS TEARS 04:03.309 --> 04:05.712 COMING DOWN BECAUSE THE 04:05.712 --> 04:08.548 MORAL COST OF CARRYING A 04:08.548 --> 04:11.251 COUNTRY TO FREEDOM SIX YEARS 04:11.251 --> 04:14.554 OF -- HE ONLY SPENDS ONE 04:14.554 --> 04:16.990 WEEK IN MOUNT VERNON, HIS 04:16.990 --> 04:18.291 HOME, IN SIX YEARS. 04:18.291 --> 04:19.292 SO THIS IS A BIG DEAL. 04:19.292 --> 04:19.893 >> IT IS. 04:19.893 --> 04:21.094 SO THE LOGICAL QUESTION IS 04:21.094 --> 04:23.496 WHAT CAN YOUR PARTY AFTER 04:23.496 --> 04:24.998 THIS ELECTION LEARN FROM 04:24.998 --> 04:26.299 GEORGE WASHINGTON? 04:26.299 --> 04:27.734 [LAUGHTER] 04:27.734 --> 04:28.935 >> I THINK CHEERFUL 04:28.935 --> 04:30.236 PERSISTENCE. 04:30.236 --> 04:30.537 [LAUGHTER] 04:30.537 --> 04:31.438 >> IS THAT IT? 04:31.438 --> 04:32.238 I LIKE THAT ANSWER. 04:32.238 --> 04:33.106 THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER. 04:33.106 --> 04:34.374 >> BUT ALSO THE WILLINGNESS 04:34.374 --> 04:35.575 TO LEARN FROM MISTAKES. 04:35.575 --> 04:36.710 PEOPLE SAID WASHINGTON OFTEN 04:36.710 --> 04:38.511 MADE A MISTAKE ONCE. 04:38.511 --> 04:42.015 THEY DIDN'T MAKE A MISTAKE 04:42.015 --> 04:42.415 TWICE. 04:42.415 --> 04:43.616 AND I SAY SOME VERY OBVIOUS 04:43.616 --> 04:44.017 THINGS. 04:44.017 --> 04:45.518 I ACTUALLY WROTE A PIECE AND 04:45.518 --> 04:46.619 SAID THAT THE FIRST THING 04:46.619 --> 04:47.520 REPUBLICANS NEED TO DO IS 04:47.520 --> 04:49.356 STOP AND THINK. 04:49.356 --> 04:50.557 ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE RUNNING 04:50.557 --> 04:51.458 AROUND BABBLING. 04:51.458 --> 04:52.058 THEY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT 04:52.058 --> 04:52.325 HAPPENED. 04:52.325 --> 04:53.660 THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE 04:53.660 --> 04:55.161 DATA, THEY HAVEN'T ANALYZED 04:55.161 --> 04:55.862 THE CAMPAIGN. 04:55.862 --> 04:57.364 THEY HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT 04:57.364 --> 04:57.564 IT. 04:57.564 --> 04:58.565 I WILL SPEND FOUR TO SIX 04:58.565 --> 04:59.566 MONTHS RESEARCHING WHAT 04:59.566 --> 05:01.968 HAPPENED AND THEN WRITE A 05:01.968 --> 05:03.803 GINGRICH REPORT ON THE 05:03.803 --> 05:05.205 FUTURE OF CONSERVATISM IN 05:05.205 --> 05:06.106 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY 05:06.106 --> 05:07.507 PROBABLY BY NEXT MAY OR 05:07.507 --> 05:07.907 JUNE. 05:07.907 --> 05:09.109 >> SO YOU DON'T SHARE THE 05:09.109 --> 05:11.111 ANGST AND THE TEETH GNASHING 05:11.111 --> 05:13.713 AND THE PESSIMISM THAT SOME 05:13.713 --> 05:15.315 OF YOUR PARTY HAVE EXHIBITED 05:15.315 --> 05:16.816 OVER LAST 10 DAYS IN THE 05:16.816 --> 05:17.217 RESULT. 05:17.217 --> 05:18.651 >> WELL, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH 05:18.651 --> 05:19.052 THE RESULT. 05:19.052 --> 05:20.754 BUT I SURVIVED GOLDWATER'S 05:20.754 --> 05:21.654 COLLAPSE, I SURVIVED 05:21.654 --> 05:22.255 WATERGATE. 05:22.255 --> 05:25.191 I GOT BEATEN TWICE IN 74 AND 05:25.191 --> 05:25.692 76. 05:25.692 --> 05:27.193 THIS IS A TOUGH BUSINESS. 05:27.193 --> 05:28.395 THE PRESIDENT RAN A 05:28.395 --> 05:29.629 BRILLIANT CAMPAIGN. 05:29.629 --> 05:30.230 WHATEVER -- 05:30.230 --> 05:31.531 >> YOU CREDIT HIM WITH THAT? 05:31.531 --> 05:32.732 >> LOOK, I'M STRONGLY 05:32.732 --> 05:34.134 OPPOSED TO OBAMA'S POLICIES, 05:34.134 --> 05:35.735 BUT I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR 05:35.735 --> 05:36.803 HIS LEADERSHIP AND THE FACT 05:36.803 --> 05:37.804 THAT THEY PUT A TEAM 05:37.804 --> 05:39.906 TOGETHER THAT RAN A 05:39.906 --> 05:40.607 CAMPAIGN. 05:40.607 --> 05:42.542 YOU HAVE BASICALLY AN 05:42.542 --> 05:44.444 OBSOLETE REPUBLICAN 05:44.444 --> 05:45.545 INSTITUTION COMPETING WITH A 05:45.545 --> 05:46.746 MODERN DEMOCRATIC 05:46.746 --> 05:47.947 INSTITUTION, AND YOU GET THE 05:47.947 --> 05:49.949 SAME RESULTS YOU WOULD GET 05:49.949 --> 05:50.750 IN WARFARE. 05:50.750 --> 05:51.951 IMAGINE YOU SENT SOMEBODY 05:51.951 --> 05:53.753 OUT WITH NO AIRCRAFT, NO 05:53.753 --> 05:56.756 COMPUTERS, NO SATELLITES, NO 05:56.756 --> 05:58.158 DRONES, AND YOU SAID HERE, 05:58.158 --> 06:00.393 WHY DON'T YOU GO COMPETE. 06:00.393 --> 06:01.695 OBAMA SIMPLY AND THE 06:01.695 --> 06:03.196 DEMOCRATS -- I GIVE THEM A 06:03.196 --> 06:03.997 LOT OF CREDIT. 06:03.997 --> 06:05.198 YOU HAVE TO RESPECT YOUR 06:05.198 --> 06:06.900 OPPONENTS WHEN THEY BEAT YOU 06:06.900 --> 06:07.801 DECISIVELY. 06:07.801 --> 06:08.835 >> AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED 06:08.835 --> 06:09.135 IN THIS CASE. 06:09.135 --> 06:10.937 >> WELL, IF YOU HAD TOLD ME 06:10.937 --> 06:13.540 TWO WEEKS AGO THAT ROMNEY 06:13.540 --> 06:14.974 WOULD GET FEWER VOTES THAN 06:14.974 --> 06:17.077 JOHN MCCAIN, I WOULDN'T HAVE 06:17.077 --> 06:17.477 BELIEVED YOU. 06:17.477 --> 06:18.878 >> OR THAT OBAMA WOULD GET 06:18.878 --> 06:19.679 MORE VOTES THAN GEORGE W. 06:19.679 --> 06:21.381 BUSH DID IN 2004. 06:21.381 --> 06:23.083 SO GOVERNOR ROMNEY SAID 06:23.083 --> 06:24.184 YESTERDAY, NOW SOMEWHAT 06:24.184 --> 06:25.352 FAMOUSLY, THAT THE REASON 06:25.352 --> 06:26.786 THAT THE PRESIDENT WON IS 06:26.786 --> 06:28.121 BECAUSE HE GAVE GIFTS TO 06:28.121 --> 06:29.289 MINORITIES IN THE FORM OF 06:29.289 --> 06:30.357 HEALTH CARE OR TO YOUNG 06:30.357 --> 06:32.359 PEOPLE IN THE FORM OF 06:32.359 --> 06:33.660 PREFERABLE COLLEGE LOANS. 06:33.660 --> 06:35.495 >> I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED. 06:35.495 --> 06:36.930 >> WITH GOVERNOR ROMNEY FOR 06:36.930 --> 06:37.330 SAYING THAT. 06:37.330 --> 06:38.832 >> WITH GOVERNOR ROMNEY'S 06:38.832 --> 06:40.233 ANALYSIS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS 06:40.233 --> 06:41.234 INSULTING AND PROFOUNDLY 06:41.234 --> 06:41.735 WRONG. 06:41.735 --> 06:42.435 >> YEAH. 06:42.435 --> 06:44.971 CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? 06:44.971 --> 06:45.572 WHY IS THAT? 06:45.572 --> 06:47.640 >> FIRST OF ALL, WE DIDN'T 06:47.640 --> 06:49.242 LOSE A ASIAN AMERICANS 06:49.242 --> 06:50.543 BECAUSE WE GIVE GIFTS. 06:50.543 --> 06:53.279 >> 73% OF ASIAN AMERICANS, 06:53.279 --> 06:54.781 71% OF LATINOS. 06:54.781 --> 06:55.582 >> THIS IS THE HARDEST 06:55.582 --> 06:56.983 WORKING AND MOST SUCCESSFUL 06:56.983 --> 06:58.385 ETHNIC GROUP IN AMERICA. 06:58.385 --> 06:59.686 THEY AIN'T INTO GIFTS. 06:59.686 --> 07:02.088 [LAUGHTER] 07:02.088 --> 07:03.790 SECOND, IT'S AN INSULT TO 07:03.790 --> 07:04.491 ALL AMERICANS. 07:04.491 --> 07:06.426 IT REDUCES US TO ECONOMIC 07:06.426 --> 07:09.129 ENTITIES WHO HAVE NO 07:09.129 --> 07:12.932 PASSION, NO IDEALISM, NO 07:12.932 --> 07:14.434 DREAMS, NO PHILOSOPHY AND 07:14.434 --> 07:16.336 IT -- IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 07:16.336 --> 07:17.871 THAT SIMPLE, MY QUESTION 07:17.871 --> 07:19.272 WOULD BE WHY DIDN'T YOU OUT 07:19.272 --> 07:19.839 BID HIM? 07:19.839 --> 07:20.774 >> YOU HAD THE MONEY. 07:20.774 --> 07:23.176 [LAUGHTER] YOU COULD BE IN 07:23.176 --> 07:24.711 THE GIFT GIVING BUSINESS. 07:24.711 --> 07:26.312 >> HE HAD ENOUGH BILLIONAIRE 07:26.312 --> 07:27.213 SUPPORTER. 07:27.213 --> 07:30.517 IF BUYING THE ELECTORATE WAS 07:30.517 --> 07:31.418 THE KEY HE COULD HAVE DON'T 07:31.418 --> 07:32.919 HIS SUPER PAC FRIENDS 07:32.919 --> 07:33.920 TOGETHER AND SAID GIVE 07:33.920 --> 07:34.521 GIFTS. 07:34.521 --> 07:35.822 BE LIKE THE NORTHWEST INDIAN 07:35.822 --> 07:37.257 WHOSE HAVE GIFT GIVING 07:37.257 --> 07:39.092 CEREMONIES AND HE COULD HAVE 07:39.092 --> 07:40.694 GONE DOWN BY TOWN AND SAID 07:40.694 --> 07:41.895 COME HERE AND LET ME GIVE 07:41.895 --> 07:42.495 YOU GIFTS. 07:42.495 --> 07:43.496 HERE ARE REPUBLICAN GIFTS. 07:43.496 --> 07:45.632 YOU COULD HAVE AN ELEPHANT 07:45.632 --> 07:47.033 COMING IN WITH GIFTS ON IT. 07:47.033 --> 07:47.634 [LAUGHTER] 07:47.634 --> 07:48.835 >> YOU'RE VERY GRACIOUS 07:48.835 --> 07:49.536 SPEAKER TO GIVE THE 07:49.536 --> 07:50.637 PRESIDENT CREDIT, BUT YOU 07:50.637 --> 07:51.738 KNOW THE FACT IS THERE ARE A 07:51.738 --> 07:52.839 LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THINK 07:52.839 --> 07:53.640 THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA DIDN'T 07:53.640 --> 07:54.741 WIN THIS ELECTION SO MUCH AS 07:54.741 --> 07:55.809 GOVERNOR ROMNEY LOST IT. 07:55.809 --> 07:56.876 I WONDER IF YOU HAVE A POINT 07:56.876 --> 07:58.278 OF VIEW ABOUT THE QUALITY OF 07:58.278 --> 07:59.979 GOVERNOR ROMNEY'S CANDIDACY. 07:59.979 --> 08:01.081 >> WELL, LET ME GO BACK TO 08:01.081 --> 08:02.816 THE FIRST HALF OF THAT. 08:02.816 --> 08:06.219 YOU DON'T GET 87 AND A HALF% 08:06.219 --> 08:07.420 TURNOUT IN MILWAUKEE BY 08:07.420 --> 08:07.721 ACCIDENT. 08:07.721 --> 08:09.122 >> BY NOT WINNING THE 08:09.122 --> 08:09.322 ELECTION. 08:09.322 --> 08:10.924 >> THIS PRESIDENT -- I 08:10.924 --> 08:12.325 DIDN'T THINK -- I SAID 08:12.325 --> 08:17.130 PUBLICLY WE BEAT HIM 53-47 08:17.130 --> 08:19.666 AND GET 53 ELECTORAL VOTES. 08:19.666 --> 08:20.667 I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS 08:20.667 --> 08:21.868 POSSIBLE TO TAKE EIGHT AND A 08:21.868 --> 08:22.769 HALF PERCENT UNEMPLOYMENT, 08:22.769 --> 08:24.471 TWO DOLLARS EXTRA FOR 08:24.471 --> 08:26.873 GASOLINE, GIGANTIC DEFICITS, 08:26.873 --> 08:29.776 THE BENGHAZI MESS, RADICAL 08:29.776 --> 08:31.644 POLICIES AND GET REELECTED. 08:31.644 --> 08:32.679 I THOUGHT SOMEWHERE IN THERE 08:32.679 --> 08:33.380 WAS TILT. 08:33.380 --> 08:35.315 >> SO WOULD NOMINEE GINGRICH 08:35.315 --> 08:37.017 HAVE DONE BETTER IN THE END 08:37.017 --> 08:39.119 THAN NOMINEE ROMNEY? 08:39.119 --> 08:40.320 >> I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING 08:40.320 --> 08:40.720 THAT. 08:40.720 --> 08:42.522 I DO THINK THE ONE WAY WHERE 08:42.522 --> 08:45.425 EITHER RICK PERRY OR I WOULD 08:45.425 --> 08:46.092 HAVE DONE BETTER IS 08:46.092 --> 08:48.294 APPEALING TO LATINO AMERICANS. 08:48.294 --> 08:49.863 >> THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT. 08:49.863 --> 08:51.998 >> BUT GOVERNOR ROMNEY IS A 08:51.998 --> 08:53.099 VERY GOOD ORGANIZER. 08:53.099 --> 08:53.900 HE'S A VERY CAPABLE 08:53.900 --> 08:54.701 FUND-RAISER. 08:54.701 --> 08:56.403 HE DID BRILLIANTLY IN THE 08:56.403 --> 08:57.303 FIRST DEBATE. 08:57.303 --> 08:58.805 IT IS THE MOST ONE SIDED 08:58.805 --> 09:00.407 DEBATE IN THE HISTORY OF 09:00.407 --> 09:01.474 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. 09:01.474 --> 09:02.509 YOU HAVE TO GIVE HIM A FAIR 09:02.509 --> 09:03.309 AMOUNT OF CREDIT. 09:03.309 --> 09:04.744 BUT I DO THINK IF YOU START 09:04.744 --> 09:07.347 OFF BY SEALING OFF THE 09:07.347 --> 09:08.448 LATINO AMERICANS AND ASIAN 09:08.448 --> 09:09.916 AMERICANS YOU MAKE IT ALMOST 09:09.916 --> 09:12.519 MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN. 09:12.519 --> 09:13.920 AND IF YOU THEN RUN A 09:13.920 --> 09:15.522 PERSONALITY RACE, YOU MAKE 09:15.522 --> 09:18.024 IT HARDER TO TURN OUT YOUR 09:18.024 --> 09:18.525 OWN BASE. 09:18.525 --> 09:20.527 SO YOU HAVE A DUALITY THERE. 09:20.527 --> 09:21.728 I THINK THIS FACT THAT HE 09:21.728 --> 09:22.929 RAN A MILLION VOTES OR A 09:22.929 --> 09:24.030 MILLION AND A HALF VOTES 09:24.030 --> 09:26.566 BEHIND MCCAIN HAS TO BE 09:26.566 --> 09:27.834 TROUBLING, BUT I THINK IT'S 09:27.834 --> 09:28.968 A HUGE MISTAKE FOR 09:28.968 --> 09:30.470 REPUBLICANS TO BLAME ROMNEY. 09:30.470 --> 09:32.172 WE LOST NORTH DAKOTA FOR THE SENATE. 09:32.172 --> 09:33.773 WE LOST MONTANA FOR THE SENATE. 09:33.773 --> 09:35.675 WE LOST GOVERNORS RACES IN 09:35.675 --> 09:37.344 NEW HAMPSHIRE, MONTANA AND 09:37.344 --> 09:39.346 WASHINGTON STATE. 09:39.346 --> 09:40.447 YOU HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND 09:40.447 --> 09:41.948 SAY THERE ARE SOME SYSTEMIC 09:41.948 --> 09:45.552 THINGS HERE THAT ROMNEY MAY 09:45.552 --> 09:48.188 OR MAY NOT HAVE SOLVED, BUT 09:48.188 --> 09:50.490 YOU CAN'T BLAME MITT ROMNEY 09:50.490 --> 09:51.491 FOR THIS OUTCOME. 09:51.491 --> 09:52.892 >> SO THOSE WHO SAY WE LOST 09:52.892 --> 09:54.394 YOU LAST TIME WHEN YOU 09:54.394 --> 09:55.895 NOMINATED JOHN MCCAIN AND 09:55.895 --> 09:57.097 THIS TIME WITH MITT ROMNEY, 09:57.097 --> 09:58.198 WHEN YOU NOMINATE SOMEONE 09:58.198 --> 09:59.699 WHO IS INSUFFICIENTLY 09:59.699 --> 10:00.800 CONSERVATIVE, YOU WILL LOSE. 10:00.800 --> 10:01.835 NEXT TIME THE MESSAGE IS 10:01.835 --> 10:02.936 NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO IS 10:02.936 --> 10:03.737 SIGNIFICANTLY MORE 10:03.737 --> 10:05.038 CONSERVATIVE THAN ANY OF 10:05.038 --> 10:06.639 THOSE TWO, WHERE DO YOU COME 10:06.639 --> 10:07.340 DOWN ON THAT? 10:07.340 --> 10:09.442 >> I SAID ALL SPRING THAT I 10:09.442 --> 10:10.143 THOUGHT THERE WERE OTHER 10:10.143 --> 10:12.245 CANDIDATES WHO WOULD HAVE 10:12.245 --> 10:13.446 BEEN BETTER IN ROMNEY. 10:13.446 --> 10:14.748 I HAVE ONE IN MIND. 10:14.748 --> 10:16.549 [LAUGHTER] BUT IT'S NOT 10:16.549 --> 10:17.283 ABOUT BEING MORE 10:17.283 --> 10:18.284 CONSERVATIVE OR LESS. 10:18.284 --> 10:19.886 YOU NEED SOMEBODY WHO IS 10:19.886 --> 10:21.588 ARTICULATE, WHO IS ABLE TO 10:21.588 --> 10:22.889 COMMUNICATE A VISION OF 10:22.889 --> 10:25.191 AMERICA'S FUTURE, BUT IT 10:25.191 --> 10:27.093 ALSO STARTS WITH A VERY 10:27.093 --> 10:27.694 SIMPLE PROMISE. 10:27.694 --> 10:30.296 I WANT TO REPRESENT 100% OF AMERICA. 10:30.296 --> 10:31.431 I WANT TO FIND WHAT IS THE 10:31.431 --> 10:33.833 COMMON GROUND THAT BRINGS US TOGETHER. 10:33.833 --> 10:34.934 WHAT'S THE VISION OF A 10:34.934 --> 10:36.469 BETTER FUTURE THAT BRINGS US TOGETHER? 10:36.469 --> 10:40.907 IF YOU BELIEVE AS I DO THAT 10:40.907 --> 10:42.108 THE LEFT DOESN'T WORK, THAT 10:42.108 --> 10:44.310 AS MARGARET MATCHER ONCE 10:44.310 --> 10:45.512 SAID, THE PROBLEM WITH 10:45.512 --> 10:46.713 SOCIALISM IS IT RUNS OUT OF 10:46.713 --> 10:47.814 OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO 10:47.814 --> 10:49.282 SPEND, AT SOME POINT PEOPLE 10:49.282 --> 10:50.483 WILL LOOK UP AND SAY GIVE ME 10:50.483 --> 10:52.152 A BETTER ALTERNATIVE. 10:52.152 --> 10:53.853 WHOEVER WE CAN NOMINATE WHO 10:53.853 --> 10:54.954 CAN ARTICULATE A BETTER 10:54.954 --> 10:57.023 ALTERNATIVE AND WHO CAN 10:57.023 --> 10:58.224 WITHSTAND THE MEDIA AND 10:58.224 --> 11:00.927 WITHSTAND THE DEBATES IS THE 11:00.927 --> 11:02.128 RIGHT PERSON TO PICK. 11:02.128 --> 11:04.431 BUT I THINK IT'S DEEPER THAN THAT. 11:04.431 --> 11:05.231 THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT TO 11:05.231 --> 11:06.132 FOCUS ON ROMNEY. 11:06.132 --> 11:09.135 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS AN 11:09.135 --> 11:10.136 INSTITUTION IS TODAY NOT 11:10.136 --> 11:11.538 COMPETITIVE IN A NUMBER OF 11:11.538 --> 11:12.872 KEY WAYS AND THE REPUBLICAN 11:12.872 --> 11:14.474 PARTY, LONG BEFORE IT WORRY 11:14.474 --> 11:15.375 ABOUT WHO IT'S GOING TO 11:15.375 --> 11:17.277 NOMINATE, HAS TO THINK ABOUT 11:17.277 --> 11:19.679 BECOMING A COMPETITIVE INSTITUTION. 11:19.679 --> 11:20.880 >> AND YET PEOPLE SAY OFTEN 11:20.880 --> 11:24.217 THIS IS AN INHERENTLY SMALL 11:24.217 --> 11:25.919 SEAT CONSERVATIVE COUNTRY. 11:25.919 --> 11:26.720 WE HEARD THAT A LOT. 11:26.720 --> 11:27.721 HOW DO YOU HAVE A CENTER 11:27.721 --> 11:28.855 RIGHT COUNTRY, BUT A PARTY 11:28.855 --> 11:30.690 THAT CAN CAPITALIZE ON IT 11:30.690 --> 11:31.591 THAT'S ABOUT EXECUTION. 11:31.591 --> 11:32.992 >> I THINK YOU STARTED TO 11:32.992 --> 11:34.094 SAY IT, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY 11:34.094 --> 11:35.995 OVERPERFORMS ON ITS IDEOLOGY 11:35.995 --> 11:37.430 AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY 11:37.430 --> 11:39.432 UNDERPERFORMS ON ITS IDEOLOGY. 11:39.432 --> 11:40.433 >> LET ME COME BACK TO THE 11:40.433 --> 11:42.235 QUESTION OF LATINOS BECAUSE 11:42.235 --> 11:43.737 MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION 11:43.737 --> 11:44.771 SINCE THE ELECTION IS WHERE 11:44.771 --> 11:45.872 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WENT 11:45.872 --> 11:48.575 WRONG ON LATINOS. 11:48.575 --> 11:49.943 ON FOX ON THE NIGHT OF THE 11:49.943 --> 11:51.077 ELECTION ONE SAID THAT WHERE 11:51.077 --> 11:51.978 GOVERNOR ROMNEY WENT WRONG 11:51.978 --> 11:53.580 IS WHEN HE GOT TO THE RIGHT 11:53.580 --> 11:55.281 OF RICK PERRY ON INSTATE 11:55.281 --> 11:56.182 TUITION DURING THAT DEBATE 11:56.182 --> 11:57.684 IN ORLANDO AND THAT THE 11:57.684 --> 11:58.918 TAKEAWAY FROM THAT IS YOU'RE 11:58.918 --> 12:00.653 TRYING TO ATTRACT A GROUP OF 12:00.653 --> 12:02.555 PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE SOMEHOW 12:02.555 --> 12:03.857 INSULTING OR SEEMING TO 12:03.857 --> 12:04.858 INSULT WITH THE LEGISLATION 12:04.858 --> 12:05.992 THAT YOU PROPOSE, THE WORDS 12:05.992 --> 12:08.194 AND DEEDS THAT YOU PUT FORWARD. 12:08.194 --> 12:09.095 DO YOU THINK THAT THE MEDIA 12:09.095 --> 12:10.397 IN PARTICULAR HAS MADE TOO 12:10.397 --> 12:11.498 MUCH OF THE RIFT BETWEEN 12:11.498 --> 12:13.199 REPUBLICANS AND LATINOS AND 12:13.199 --> 12:14.534 HOW DO YOU BRING THE LATINO 12:14.534 --> 12:15.735 COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SO FAST 12:15.735 --> 12:17.404 GROWING IN SO MANY PLACES IN 12:17.404 --> 12:18.438 THE COUNTRY, BACK INTO THE 12:18.438 --> 12:20.874 REPUBLICAN PARTY FOLD? 12:20.874 --> 12:22.676 >> LET ME START AND SAY IF 12:22.676 --> 12:24.778 YOU HAVE AN INTELLIGENT 12:24.778 --> 12:26.479 OPPONENT AND YOU MAKE A 12:26.479 --> 12:27.881 SUBSTANTIAL MISTAKE, YOU 12:27.881 --> 12:29.082 DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON THE 12:29.082 --> 12:31.584 MEDIA BECAUSE YOUR OPPONENT 12:31.584 --> 12:32.786 WILL COMMUNICATE IT. 12:32.786 --> 12:34.187 THE OBAMA PEOPLE BEGAN 12:34.187 --> 12:39.659 ADVERTISING ON UNIVISION AND 12:39.659 --> 12:42.195 TELEMUNDO IN MAY. 12:42.195 --> 12:43.296 NOW, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT 12:43.296 --> 12:45.699 THE BIGGER MISTAKE WAS WHEN 12:45.699 --> 12:50.003 I SAID WE'RE GOING TO DEPORT GRANDMOTHER. 12:50.003 --> 12:52.939 AND ROMNEY SAID WELL, SHE'LL SELF-DEPORT. 12:52.939 --> 12:55.241 BECAUSE THAT BECAME A COMMERCIAL. 12:55.241 --> 12:55.842 >> IT WAS ONE OF THE 12:55.842 --> 12:57.444 MEMORABLE PHRASES OF THE CAMPAIGN. 12:57.444 --> 12:59.079 >> AND YOU GO TO A COMMUNITY 12:59.079 --> 13:00.780 AND GO HI, I'VE GOT THIS 13:00.780 --> 13:02.482 REALLY GREAT ECONOMIC 13:02.482 --> 13:03.283 ARGUMENTS AND YOUR 13:03.283 --> 13:04.984 GRANDMOTHER WON'T BE HERE 13:04.984 --> 13:06.286 DURING THE PROSPERITY, BUT I 13:06.286 --> 13:07.087 DON'T WANT YOU TO WORRY 13:07.087 --> 13:08.188 ABOUT THAT PART OF IT 13:08.188 --> 13:10.690 BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE A LOT BETTER JOB. 13:10.690 --> 13:14.094 WELL, IF YOU'RE A PRO FAMILY 13:14.094 --> 13:15.128 CONSERVATIVE AND YOU'RE 13:15.128 --> 13:15.929 SUGGESTING WE'RE GOING TO 13:15.929 --> 13:18.832 KICK OUT GRANDMA, YOU'RE 13:18.832 --> 13:22.035 CREATING A KIND OF EMOTIONAL TENSION. 13:22.035 --> 13:23.136 AND THE COMMUNITY KIND OF 13:23.136 --> 13:25.839 GOES, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. 13:25.839 --> 13:27.240 I CAN HAVE IMAGE NATIONALLY 13:27.240 --> 13:28.441 HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT, BUT 13:28.441 --> 13:29.976 GRANDMA WILL BE HERE ON SUNDAY. 13:29.976 --> 13:32.679 OR I COULD KICK GRANDMA OUT, 13:32.679 --> 13:34.014 BUT I'LL GET A BETTER JOB. 13:34.014 --> 13:35.315 WELL, LUCKILY FOR ALL OF US 13:35.315 --> 13:36.750 THIS IS NOT A COUNTRY THAT 13:36.750 --> 13:38.451 KICKS OUT GRANDMA FOR THE JOB. 13:38.451 --> 13:40.053 >> SO IN THE AFFIRMATIVE 13:40.053 --> 13:41.755 SENSE WHERE DOES YOUR PARTY 13:41.755 --> 13:42.922 NOW GO TO HAVE A 13:42.922 --> 13:44.457 CONVERSATION WITH THE LATINO 13:44.457 --> 13:45.458 COMMUNITY THAT IS PRODUCTIVE 13:45.458 --> 13:46.760 WHERE LATINOS MAY THINK WE 13:46.760 --> 13:47.627 HAVE TWO OPTIONS? 13:47.627 --> 13:48.695 >> I THINK YOU HAVE TO START 13:48.695 --> 13:52.499 WITH RICK PERRY AND JEB BUSH 13:52.499 --> 13:54.801 AND MARCO RUBEIO AND NEWT 13:54.801 --> 13:57.671 GINGRICH, AND WE NEED TO 13:57.671 --> 13:58.505 HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH 13:58.505 --> 13:59.506 REPUBLICANS BECAUSE WE NEED 13:59.506 --> 14:00.807 TO GET OUR OWN PARTY TO 14:00.807 --> 14:02.208 UNDERSTAND THAT UNLESS WE 14:02.208 --> 14:05.011 ARE AWARE OF THE REALITIES, 14:05.011 --> 14:05.945 THERE'S NO POINT IN GOING 14:05.945 --> 14:07.847 OVER HERE AND CREATING SOME 14:07.847 --> 14:09.749 FANCY CLEVER PROGRAM WHICH 14:09.749 --> 14:10.750 IS DESTROYED THE FIRST TIME 14:10.750 --> 14:11.951 YOU SEE A REPUBLICAN DEBATE 14:11.951 --> 14:12.952 OR DESTROYED THE FIRST TIME 14:12.952 --> 14:14.087 YOU SEE THE HOUSE AND SENATE 14:14.087 --> 14:14.988 REPUBLICANS DO SOMETHING. 14:14.988 --> 14:15.488 >> RIGHT. 14:15.488 --> 14:17.190 >> BY THE WAY, I THINK MOST 14:17.190 --> 14:17.891 GOVERNORS WHO ARE 14:17.891 --> 14:19.292 PRACTICAL -- WE HAVE 30 14:19.292 --> 14:20.293 REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS. 14:20.293 --> 14:21.394 I THINK MOST OF THEM WANT 14:21.394 --> 14:22.595 COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS. 14:22.595 --> 14:23.596 >> AND YOU'RE EXPECTING THAT 14:23.596 --> 14:24.831 THE REPUBLICANS WILL FIGURE 14:24.831 --> 14:26.533 OUT A WAY TO WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS. 14:26.533 --> 14:27.534 IN FACT, SENATOR GRAHAM AND 14:27.534 --> 14:28.835 SENATOR SHUMER ARE ALREADY 14:28.835 --> 14:29.936 WORKING TOGETHER ON SOME 14:29.936 --> 14:31.237 KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE 14:31.237 --> 14:32.238 IMMIGRATION REFORM. 14:32.238 --> 14:32.906 YOU THINK THAT THE QUESTION 14:32.906 --> 14:33.640 OF IMMIGRATION REFORM WILL 14:33.640 --> 14:36.309 BE RESOLVED REASONABLY SOON -- 14:36.309 --> 14:36.810 >> I DON'T KNOW. 14:36.810 --> 14:37.811 IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE 14:37.811 --> 14:39.713 PRESIDENT 'S TO KEEP IT AS AN ISSUE. 14:39.713 --> 14:40.313 >> DO YOU THINK THE 14:40.313 --> 14:41.314 PRESIDENT WOULD KEEP IT AS 14:41.314 --> 14:42.716 AN ISSUE RATHER THAN KEEP IT 14:42.716 --> 14:43.350 AS POLICY? 14:43.350 --> 14:44.484 >> I SAID I DON'T KNOW. 14:44.484 --> 14:45.385 BUT I THINK THERE WILL BE A 14:45.385 --> 14:46.786 VERY SUBSTANTIAL EFFORT BY 14:46.786 --> 14:48.788 REPUBLICANS TO GET TO AN 14:48.788 --> 14:50.990 IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT IS 14:50.990 --> 14:52.092 EFFECTIVE AND PRACTICAL THAT 14:52.092 --> 14:53.693 DOES INCLUDE BORDER CONTROL, 14:53.693 --> 14:55.328 BUT THAT ALSO RECOGNIZES 14:55.328 --> 14:57.030 THAT YOU'VE GOT TO FIND SOME 14:57.030 --> 14:59.532 METHOD FOR RESIDENCY IF NOT 14:59.532 --> 15:01.234 FOR THE CITY 17 SHIP. 15:01.234 --> 15:02.469 >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT 15:02.469 --> 15:04.270 HEALTH CARE, ANOTHER ISSUE 15:04.270 --> 15:06.072 THAT CAME UP AT VARIOUS 15:06.072 --> 15:07.173 POINTS OF THIS CAMPAIGN. 15:07.173 --> 15:07.974 WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT HEALTH 15:07.974 --> 15:09.075 CARE AS MUCH AS SOME OF US 15:09.075 --> 15:09.876 EXPECTED TO. 15:09.876 --> 15:10.677 YOU CERTAINLY TALKED ABOUT 15:10.677 --> 15:12.779 IT A LOT. 15:12.779 --> 15:14.014 WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT A 15:14.014 --> 15:16.349 REELECTED, WE HAVE THE 15:16.349 --> 15:17.450 ROBERTS COURT AFFIRMING THE 15:17.450 --> 15:18.451 CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE 15:18.451 --> 15:19.285 HEALTH CARE ACT. 15:19.285 --> 15:20.453 SO ONWARD WE GO. 15:20.453 --> 15:21.388 IF YOU WERE ADVISING YOUR 15:21.388 --> 15:22.288 PARTY, WHAT SHOULD THE 15:22.288 --> 15:23.390 PARTY'S POSITION IN CONGRESS 15:23.390 --> 15:24.591 BE AND HOW SHOULD GOVERNORS 15:24.591 --> 15:26.893 REGARD THE NEW WORLD THAT WE 15:26.893 --> 15:27.761 SEE AFTER THE ELECTION? 15:27.761 --> 15:28.795 >> WELL, I THINK THERE ARE 15:28.795 --> 15:32.332 THREE TRACKS ON HEALTH CARE, 15:32.332 --> 15:32.932 STARTING WITH THE 15:32.932 --> 15:33.833 RECOGNITION THAT OBAMA CARE 15:33.833 --> 15:34.734 IS NOT GOING TO GET 15:34.734 --> 15:35.535 REPEALED. 15:35.535 --> 15:36.803 THEY GAINED SEATS IN THE 15:36.803 --> 15:38.605 SENATE AND OBAMA IS STILL 15:38.605 --> 15:39.406 PRESIDENT. 15:39.406 --> 15:40.507 >> CAN'T DO IT. 15:40.507 --> 15:41.708 >> IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 15:41.708 --> 15:43.309 SO IN THE CONTEXT OF OBAMA 15:43.309 --> 15:47.814 CARE IMPLEMENTATION, I THINK 15:47.814 --> 15:49.215 THERE ARE THREE ZONES TO 15:49.215 --> 15:49.616 LOOK AT. 15:49.616 --> 15:50.950 THE FIRST IS TO HOLD 15:50.950 --> 15:52.352 HEARINGS ON THE UNINTENDED 15:52.352 --> 15:52.652 CONSEQUENCES. 15:52.652 --> 15:53.753 THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES 15:53.753 --> 15:54.754 THAT ARE GOING TO GO TO PART 15:54.754 --> 15:56.856 TIME EMPLOYMENT IN ORDER TO 15:56.856 --> 15:58.858 AVOID THE MANDATES IS GOING 15:58.858 --> 16:01.961 TO BE JUST BREATHTAKING. 16:01.961 --> 16:02.762 THE PROBLEM THE STATES ARE 16:02.762 --> 16:03.963 GOING TO RUN INTO. 16:03.963 --> 16:05.365 THERE WILL BE A WHOLE ZONE 16:05.365 --> 16:06.399 HERE OF WHAT DOES 16:06.399 --> 16:07.600 APPLICATION MEAN? 16:07.600 --> 16:08.601 MOVING A BILL TO ELIMINATE 16:08.601 --> 16:10.303 THE CONCEPT OF A DEATH 16:10.303 --> 16:11.237 COMMITTEE AND TO REALLY 16:11.237 --> 16:12.539 TRULY SHIFT THOSE DECISIONS 16:12.539 --> 16:14.741 BACK TO THE DOCTORS WOULD BE 16:14.741 --> 16:16.743 IN FACT A POWERFUL EXAMPLE. 16:16.743 --> 16:19.245 SO YOU COULD DO MODIFICATIONS. 16:19.245 --> 16:21.047 SECOND, I THINK, IS STARTING 16:21.047 --> 16:22.248 WITH THE GOVERNORS HOW DO 16:22.248 --> 16:24.351 YOU MAXIMIZE FREEDOM AND HOW 16:24.351 --> 16:25.852 DO YOU MAXIMIZE DOCTORS 16:25.852 --> 16:28.188 CONTINUING TO PRACTICE MEDICINE? 16:28.188 --> 16:29.389 THE NUMBER OF DOCTORS WHO 16:29.389 --> 16:30.690 NOW SAY TO ME THEY'RE GOING 16:30.690 --> 16:32.392 TO QUIT IS REALLY A PROBLEM. 16:32.392 --> 16:34.894 AND YOU COULD HAVE A VERY 16:34.894 --> 16:36.629 BIG DOCTOR SHORTAGE IN THE 16:36.629 --> 16:38.331 NOT DISTANT FUTURE. 16:38.331 --> 16:39.432 THE THIRD THING, WHERE I 16:39.432 --> 16:40.834 FAILED AND I REALLY FEEL 16:40.834 --> 16:43.370 BADLY ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE 16:43.370 --> 16:44.704 REASON I'M RUNNING IS THAT 16:44.704 --> 16:46.106 THERE ARE ENORMOUS 16:46.106 --> 16:47.707 OPPORTUNITIES FOR 16:47.707 --> 16:49.209 DRAMATICALLY IMPROVING THE 16:49.209 --> 16:49.909 HEALTH SYSTEM. 16:49.909 --> 16:51.111 I'LL GIVE YOU THREE EXAMPLES. 16:51.111 --> 16:52.812 >> YOU SAID I AM RUNNING -- 16:52.812 --> 16:54.714 >> NO, I WAS RUNNING. 16:54.714 --> 16:56.416 >> I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER YOU 16:56.416 --> 16:57.550 ACTUALLY MADE NEWS HERE. 16:57.550 --> 16:58.551 [LAUGHTER] 16:58.551 --> 16:59.953 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 16:59.953 --> 17:00.653 >> NO. 17:00.653 --> 17:02.155 >> THE LAST THING I WANT ON 17:02.155 --> 17:02.989 THE NEWS TONIGHT. 17:02.989 --> 17:04.991 [LAUGHTER] 17:04.991 --> 17:06.893 BUT THE -- I WANT TO GET 17:06.893 --> 17:08.495 ACROSS THE NOTION THAT THERE 17:08.495 --> 17:10.697 ARE THESE MARVELOUS FUTURES 17:10.697 --> 17:12.399 AND THAT YOU DON'T -- I 17:12.399 --> 17:14.401 COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO 17:14.401 --> 17:15.502 PENETRATE THE POLITICAL 17:15.502 --> 17:17.404 PRESS WHICH FINDS IT HARD TO 17:17.404 --> 17:19.539 COVER OPTIMISTIC, POSITIVE THINGS. 17:19.539 --> 17:20.840 BUT THERE WERE THREE AREAS. 17:20.840 --> 17:22.942 ONE IS REGENERATIVE MEDICINE 17:22.942 --> 17:24.144 WHERE YOU'RE JUST GOING TO 17:24.144 --> 17:27.847 SEE AN EXPLOSIVE 17:27.847 --> 17:28.848 OPPORTUNITY, FOR EXAMPLE, TO 17:28.848 --> 17:30.550 TAKE YOUR SKIN, YOUR TISSUES 17:30.550 --> 17:32.552 TO GROW YOUR KIDNEY, TO HAVE 17:32.552 --> 17:34.154 A TRANSPLANT WHERE YOU HAVE 17:34.154 --> 17:35.588 NO REJECTION BECAUSE WE'RE 17:35.588 --> 17:36.923 PUTTING YOU BACK IN YOU. 17:36.923 --> 17:37.724 THE BREAKTHROUGHS THAT ARE 17:37.724 --> 17:38.925 HAPPENING IN THAT ZONE ARE 17:38.925 --> 17:40.627 JUST BREATHTAKING AND IT 17:40.627 --> 17:41.728 REQUIRES FOOD AND DRUG 17:41.728 --> 17:43.396 ADMINISTRATION REFORM AND A 17:43.396 --> 17:45.498 FEW OTHER STEPS TO GET IT TO 17:45.498 --> 17:47.000 ACCELERATE, BUT YOU COULD 17:47.000 --> 17:48.201 SEE A REVOLUTION IN THE NEXT 17:48.201 --> 17:49.402 20 YEARS IN HOW WE TAKE CARE 17:49.402 --> 17:51.705 OF OURSELVES THAT EXTENDS 17:51.705 --> 17:52.939 OUR LIVES, EXTENDS OUR 17:52.939 --> 17:53.840 INDEPENDENT LIVING, EXTENDS 17:53.840 --> 17:55.875 OUR HEALTH AND LOWERS COST. 17:55.875 --> 17:56.976 THE SECOND AREA IS BRAIN 17:56.976 --> 17:58.578 RESEARCH, WHICH GETS YOU 17:58.578 --> 18:01.581 INTO ALZHEIMER'S, AUTISM, 18:01.581 --> 18:03.683 PARKINSON'S, MENTAL HEALTH, 18:03.683 --> 18:05.285 ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITIES. 18:05.285 --> 18:07.587 IN ALZHEIMER'S ALONE WE WILL 18:07.587 --> 18:09.322 SPEND $20 TRILLION BETWEEN 18:09.322 --> 18:13.026 NOW AND 2050, 20 TRILLION. 18:13.026 --> 18:18.732 ONE AND A HALF FEDERAL DEBTS. 18:18.732 --> 18:19.733 SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 18:19.733 --> 18:20.433 HUGE OPPORTUNITIES. 18:20.433 --> 18:21.534 THE FOOD AND DRUG 18:21.534 --> 18:22.502 ADMINISTRATION IS VERY BADLY 18:22.502 --> 18:24.204 DESIGNED TO DEAL WITH IT. 18:24.204 --> 18:26.339 THE THIRD IS IN TERMS OF 18:26.339 --> 18:27.040 INFORMATION SYSTEMS. 18:27.040 --> 18:28.341 IF YOU HAD AN AMERICAN 18:28.341 --> 18:30.643 EXPRESS VISA OR MASTERCARD 18:30.643 --> 18:32.278 MODEL OF ANTI-FRAUD EXPERT 18:32.278 --> 18:34.080 SYSTEMS YOU SAVE BETWEEN 60 18:34.080 --> 18:38.685 AND $110 BILLION IN MEDICARE 18:38.685 --> 18:40.987 AND MEDICAID FRAUD, A YEAR, ANNUALLY. 18:40.987 --> 18:42.889 IT'S A TRILLION DOLLARS OVER A DECADE. 18:42.889 --> 18:44.724 SO I THINK YOU COULD SEE A 18:44.724 --> 18:46.726 POSITIVE MODERNIZATION OF 18:46.726 --> 18:47.961 THE HEALTH SYSTEM EVEN 18:47.961 --> 18:49.262 WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF 18:49.262 --> 18:49.863 OBAMA CARE. 18:49.863 --> 18:51.664 >> WHO IS OPPOSED TO IT? 18:51.664 --> 18:53.867 >> INERTIA. 18:53.867 --> 18:54.868 IT'S HARD TO LEARN. 18:54.868 --> 18:55.669 IT'S COMPLICATED. 18:55.669 --> 18:56.670 THE CONGRESS DOESN'T 18:56.670 --> 18:57.370 UNDERSTAND IT. 18:57.370 --> 18:58.471 >> SO IT'S NOT PARTISAN. 18:58.471 --> 19:00.473 >> IT'S NOT PARTISAN. NO. 19:00.473 --> 19:02.108 I HAD AS MUCH TROUBLE 19:02.108 --> 19:02.809 CONVINCING THE BUSH 19:02.809 --> 19:03.510 ADMINISTRATION AS I DID 19:03.510 --> 19:04.811 CONVINCING THE OBAMA 19:04.811 --> 19:04.911 ADMINISTRATION. 19:04.911 --> 19:06.713 BUT THE BIPARTISAN 19:06.713 --> 19:08.648 UNWILLINGNESS TO THINK ABOUT 19:08.648 --> 19:09.349 NEW IDEAS. 19:09.349 --> 19:11.518 >> SPEAKING OF PARTISANSHIP, 19:11.518 --> 19:12.352 I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE 19:12.352 --> 19:14.254 ASPECT OF THE NEW MEMBERS OF 19:14.254 --> 19:15.155 CONGRESS OUGHT TO BE TOWARDS 19:15.155 --> 19:15.655 ONE ANOTHER. 19:15.655 --> 19:17.257 WE HEAR ABOUT THE TOXICITY 19:17.257 --> 19:18.658 OF POLITICS AND HOW WE'RE 19:18.658 --> 19:21.061 MORE POLARIZED THAN EVER. 19:21.061 --> 19:22.896 IS THERE A WAY TO CRACK THAT? 19:22.896 --> 19:23.997 WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO 19:23.997 --> 19:25.198 ANOTHER SESSION OF CONGRESS. 19:25.198 --> 19:26.900 WE HAVE A REPUBLICAN LED 19:26.900 --> 19:29.302 HOUSE, WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC 19:29.302 --> 19:30.904 SENATE, SLIGHTLY LARGER 19:30.904 --> 19:33.106 MARGIN, BUT EFFECTIVELY THE 19:33.106 --> 19:33.606 SAME AS BEFORE. 19:33.606 --> 19:35.208 WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT. 19:35.208 --> 19:36.543 HOW DO WE NOT REPEAT THE 19:36.543 --> 19:38.978 GRIDLOCK AND TOXICITY OF THE 19:38.978 --> 19:39.813 LAST FOUR YEARS? 19:39.813 --> 19:40.947 >> I THINK FIRST OF ALL, I 19:40.947 --> 19:42.349 WOULD ENCOURAGE -- I CAN'T 19:42.349 --> 19:43.149 SPEAK FOR THE SENATE BECAUSE 19:43.149 --> 19:44.951 I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT 19:44.951 --> 19:46.753 HARRY REID WOULD BE LIKE. 19:46.753 --> 19:47.654 BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE 19:47.654 --> 19:49.255 SPEAKER BOEHNER TO FIND 19:49.255 --> 19:50.357 BILLS THAT THE DEMOCRATS 19:50.357 --> 19:51.658 INTRODUCED THAT ARE GOOD, 19:51.658 --> 19:53.360 SMALL IDEAS AND BRING THEM UP. 19:53.360 --> 19:56.296 YOU CAN -- I TRIED LAST YEAR 19:56.296 --> 19:57.797 AND FAILED TO GET THE HOUSE 19:57.797 --> 20:00.000 REPUBLICANS TO PASS A BILL 20:00.000 --> 20:01.201 THAT HAD BEEN INTRODUCED BY 20:01.201 --> 20:02.902 TWO DEMOCRATIC SENATORS THAT 20:02.902 --> 20:05.605 WOULD -- BY WEBB AND WARNER 20:05.605 --> 20:07.340 OF VIRGINIA TO ALLOW 20:07.340 --> 20:08.942 DRILLING OFFSHORE FOR VIRGINIA. 20:08.942 --> 20:10.143 HERE YOU HAD TWO DEMOCRATIC 20:10.143 --> 20:11.044 SENATORS DOING SOMETHING 20:11.044 --> 20:13.646 REPUBLICANS BELIEVE IN IDEOLOGICALLY. 20:13.646 --> 20:14.981 IF THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAD 20:14.981 --> 20:16.282 PASSED IT, SENT IT TO THE 20:16.282 --> 20:17.384 SENATE AND SAID TO HARRY 20:17.384 --> 20:18.618 REID, HEY, WE'RE PASSING 20:18.618 --> 20:20.820 YOUR TWO DEMOCRATIC 20:20.820 --> 20:23.123 SENATORS' BILL, DON'T YOU 20:23.123 --> 20:24.424 THINK YOU OUGHT TO BRING UP 20:24.424 --> 20:25.725 THEIR TWO DEMOCRATIC 20:25.725 --> 20:26.626 SENATOR'S BILL. 20:26.626 --> 20:28.028 PRETTY HARD TO BE PARTISAN. 20:28.028 --> 20:30.163 >> WHY IS THAT -- YOU'VE BEEN SPEAKER? 20:30.163 --> 20:30.964 YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO 20:30.964 --> 20:31.965 BE SPEAKER AND YOU KNOW WHAT 20:31.965 --> 20:33.700 THE MINDSET CAN BE IN A 20:33.700 --> 20:34.901 HOUSE WITH A LOT OF 20:34.901 --> 20:36.736 DIFFICULT TO HERD FOLKS, 20:36.736 --> 20:37.437 WHICH WAS SOMETHING YOU 20:37.437 --> 20:38.538 EXPERIENCED PROBABLY AFTER 20:38.538 --> 20:39.839 THE CONTRACT WITH AMERICA 20:39.839 --> 20:41.641 PERIOD IN 94. 20:41.641 --> 20:42.842 A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE CAME IN, 20:42.842 --> 20:43.643 THEY HAD IDEAS. 20:43.643 --> 20:44.744 SO IS THE SPEAKER JUST 20:44.744 --> 20:45.945 FAILING TO LIVE UP TO HIS 20:45.945 --> 20:46.746 RESPONSIBILITIES AS SPEAKER 20:46.746 --> 20:48.481 AND NOT DOING THIS? 20:48.481 --> 20:49.783 >> NO, NO. 20:49.783 --> 20:52.485 MOST POLITICIANS AREN'T 20:52.485 --> 20:54.654 GIGANTIC RISK TAKERS. 20:54.654 --> 20:57.657 I CAME OUT OF IT -- IF I CAN 20:57.657 --> 20:58.858 USE A FOOTBALL ANALOGY. 20:58.858 --> 20:59.959 I CAME OUT OF A BACKGROUND 20:59.959 --> 21:01.061 BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN IN THE 21:01.061 --> 21:02.262 MINORITY SO LONG, THAT I WAS 21:02.262 --> 21:03.697 LIKE A ROLLOUT QUARTERBACK. 21:03.697 --> 21:06.599 I WAS GOING TO TRY TO THROW 21:06.599 --> 21:07.500 DEEP OVER PLAY. 21:07.500 --> 21:08.435 I WOULD DO EVERYTHING I 21:08.435 --> 21:10.403 COULD TO KEEP THE BALL MOVING. 21:10.403 --> 21:11.738 I WAS GOING TO TAKE RISKS. 21:11.738 --> 21:13.940 AND SO IT'S NATIONAL FOR ME 21:13.940 --> 21:17.744 TO SAY WHAT CAN I PUT TOGETHER? 21:17.744 --> 21:18.745 IT'S NOT NATURAL. 21:18.745 --> 21:20.447 >> THAT MAY NOT BE HIS THING. 21:20.447 --> 21:23.216 >> MOST POLITICIANS ARE RISK AVOIDING. 21:23.216 --> 21:27.721 AND -- BECAUSE AS I PROVED, 21:27.721 --> 21:28.922 I ONLY LASTED FOR FOUR YEARS 21:28.922 --> 21:30.123 AS SPEAKER IN PART BECAUSE I 21:30.123 --> 21:33.059 WORE OUT MY MEMBERS. 21:33.059 --> 21:34.561 IT'S HARD WORK AND ITS 21:34.561 --> 21:35.261 CONTROVERSIAL AND SOMETIMES 21:35.261 --> 21:37.397 AS YOU SAY, INTERCEPTED. 21:37.397 --> 21:39.099 AND I THINK PARTLY MY 21:39.099 --> 21:40.500 MEMBERS JUST BURNED OUT. 21:40.500 --> 21:42.535 THEY THOUGHT THIS IS A LOT OF TURMOIL. 21:42.535 --> 21:44.938 WELL, YOU PASS WELFARE 21:44.938 --> 21:45.839 REFORM, YOU BALANCE THE 21:45.839 --> 21:47.240 BUDGET FOR FOUR YEARS, IT'S 21:47.240 --> 21:48.141 A LOT OF TURMOIL. 21:48.141 --> 21:49.943 >> SO I GUESS JOHN BOEHNER 21:49.943 --> 21:51.111 WOULD BE SPEAKER AGAIN 21:51.111 --> 21:52.645 ALTHOUGH THERE WAS ONE VOTE FOR YOU. 21:52.645 --> 21:53.646 DID YOU SEE THAT? 21:53.646 --> 21:57.751 REPRESENTATIVE LARRY GOMERT 21:57.751 --> 21:59.386 WHO OFTEN FLIES BY HIS OWN 21:59.386 --> 22:00.387 SET OF COORDINATES. 22:00.387 --> 22:01.388 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU 22:01.388 --> 22:02.389 DIDN'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER 22:02.389 --> 22:03.289 OF THE HOUSE TO BE SPEAKER. 22:03.289 --> 22:04.190 [LAUGHTER] 22:04.190 --> 22:05.191 SO YOU GOT ONE VOTE. 22:05.191 --> 22:06.893 >> WHICH MAKES ME A FOOTNOTE 22:06.893 --> 22:08.795 IN SOME UNUSUAL HISTORY OF 22:08.795 --> 22:09.496 THE HOUSE. 22:09.496 --> 22:09.896 [LAUGHTER] 22:09.896 --> 22:11.898 >> HOW SHERMANESQUE WOULD 22:11.898 --> 22:13.299 YOUR RESPONSE HAD BEEN IF 22:13.299 --> 22:14.534 THERE HAD BEEN A MOVE TO 22:14.534 --> 22:15.635 HAVE YOU COME BACK IN AND 22:15.635 --> 22:16.336 LEAD THEM? 22:16.336 --> 22:17.337 I WILL NOT SERVE. 22:17.337 --> 22:18.672 DON'T NOMINATE. 22:18.672 --> 22:19.673 WHAT WOULD HAVE YOU DONE? 22:19.673 --> 22:21.274 >> IF THERE HAD BEEN A MOVE 22:21.274 --> 22:23.977 I WOULD SUGGEST IT WAS IMPRACTICAL. 22:23.977 --> 22:25.078 IF THERE WAS A MAJORITY VOTE 22:25.078 --> 22:26.179 I WOULD HAVE BEEN CONFUSED. 22:26.179 --> 22:28.782 >> AND YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A NEW JOB. 22:28.782 --> 22:30.583 WE HAVE THREE MINUTES LEFT. 22:30.583 --> 22:31.384 WHAT DO YOU DO NOW? 22:31.384 --> 22:32.919 IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE YOU 22:32.919 --> 22:35.021 GIVEN THE SCHEDULE YOU KEEP 22:35.021 --> 22:36.356 UP, THE BOOKS YOU WRITE, THE 22:36.356 --> 22:38.758 SPEECHES, IT SEEMS TO BE COMPULSIVE, 22:38.758 --> 22:41.161 THE COMPULSIVENESS OF YOUR 22:41.161 --> 22:42.162 THINKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES 22:42.162 --> 22:46.466 AND YOUR PROS THEY LATIZING 22:46.466 --> 22:47.567 ON VARIOUS THINGS THAT YOU 22:47.567 --> 22:48.868 BELIEVE IN. 22:48.868 --> 22:49.903 I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE DONE. 22:49.903 --> 22:52.205 >> WHY WOULD YOU DO? 22:52.205 --> 22:53.306 >> WELL, I'M ASKING. 22:53.306 --> 22:54.407 ARE YOU DONE? 22:54.407 --> 22:56.609 WILL YOU RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN? 22:56.609 --> 22:58.011 >> I DON'T KNOW AM I'M A CITIZEN. 22:58.011 --> 22:58.745 I'M VERY FORTUNATE. 22:58.745 --> 23:00.747 I GET TO GO BE A CITIZEN ALL 23:00.747 --> 23:01.348 DAY EVERYDAY. 23:01.348 --> 23:02.549 I HAD HUGE FUN YESTERDAY AT 23:02.549 --> 23:03.950 THE UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS 23:03.950 --> 23:05.952 NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUM. 23:05.952 --> 23:07.554 I HAD GREAT FUN TODAY WITH 23:07.554 --> 23:13.827 TIM ROWELL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. 23:13.827 --> 23:15.528 >> BUT YOU LIKED BEING IN 23:15.528 --> 23:16.930 OFFICE AND LIKED BEING IN A 23:16.930 --> 23:18.331 POSITION OF ELECTIVE OFFICE 23:18.331 --> 23:20.133 THAT GAVE YOU A PLATFORM 23:20.133 --> 23:21.501 FROM WHICH TO SPEAK AND DO. 23:21.501 --> 23:23.136 >> BUT I HAD 11 YEARS 23:23.136 --> 23:23.870 BETWEEN LEAVING THE 23:23.870 --> 23:25.271 SPEAKERSHIP AND RUNNING FOR 23:25.271 --> 23:25.972 PRESIDENT AND I WAS REALLY 23:25.972 --> 23:27.073 BUSY FOR ALL 11 YEARS. 23:27.073 --> 23:28.375 >> SO YOU DON'T INTEND TO 23:28.375 --> 23:29.209 RUN FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN? 23:29.209 --> 23:30.910 >> IT'S NOT MY INTENTION, 23:30.910 --> 23:32.112 BUT I'M NOT RULING IT O. 23:32.112 --> 23:33.013 >> WOULD YOU RUN FOR 23:33.013 --> 23:34.614 ANYTHING ELSE POTENTIALLY? 23:34.614 --> 23:35.215 >> NO. 23:35.215 --> 23:35.815 I DON'T THINK SO. 23:35.815 --> 23:37.217 >> ON SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO 23:37.217 --> 23:39.119 ENJOY YOU ON THE TRAIL. 23:39.119 --> 23:40.153 >> I'LL TRY TO LEARN AND 23:40.153 --> 23:41.554 I'LL TRY TO THINK AND I'M 23:41.554 --> 23:42.756 GOING TO TRY TO HAVE IDEAS. 23:42.756 --> 23:44.391 >> WOULD YOU EVER ENTERTAIN 23:44.391 --> 23:45.992 BEING BROUGHT INTO THE 23:45.992 --> 23:46.693 ADMINISTRATION? 23:46.693 --> 23:47.594 THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION 23:47.594 --> 23:48.795 THAT MAYBE THE PRESIDENT 23:48.795 --> 23:49.996 SHOULD EXTEND AN OLIVE 23:49.996 --> 23:51.498 BRANCH TO MATTSSON MCHALE 23:51.498 --> 23:53.600 AND SAY WOMAN -- TO MITT 23:53.600 --> 23:55.702 ROMNEY AND SAY COME BE 23:55.702 --> 23:57.203 TREASURY SECRETARY. 23:57.203 --> 23:58.738 BUT TO USE GOVERNOR ROMNEY 23:58.738 --> 24:00.140 OR USE A PROMINENT REPUBLICAN. 24:00.140 --> 24:01.641 >> UNLESS THE PRESIDENT CAME 24:01.641 --> 24:02.776 AND SAID HE WANTED A 24:02.776 --> 24:05.078 TRILLION, SIX HUNDRED 24:05.078 --> 24:05.879 BILLION DOLLARS IN NEW 24:05.879 --> 24:07.180 TAXES, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN 24:07.180 --> 24:08.682 TURN TO GOVERNOR ROMNEY AND 24:08.682 --> 24:10.183 SAY HI, ESPECIALLY THE 24:10.183 --> 24:11.685 SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY. 24:11.685 --> 24:12.986 >> ALTHOUGH, LISTEN, BILL 24:12.986 --> 24:14.487 CRYSTAL AND GLEN HUBBARD AND 24:14.487 --> 24:15.488 A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH 24:15.488 --> 24:16.289 GOVERNOR ROMNEY DURING THE 24:16.289 --> 24:17.390 CAMPAIGN HAVE EXPRESSED A 24:17.390 --> 24:19.225 LOT MORE OPENNESS TO TAX 24:19.225 --> 24:20.527 INCREASES ON THE WEALTHY 24:20.527 --> 24:22.028 THAN THEY DID IN THE CAMPAIGN. 24:22.028 --> 24:23.430 >> BUT NONE OF THEM HOLD OFFICE. 24:23.430 --> 24:24.731 >> SO YOU THINK THAT THAT 24:24.731 --> 24:25.832 WOULD DISQUALIFY GOVERNOR 24:25.832 --> 24:26.833 ROMNEY IN SOME RESPECTS. 24:26.833 --> 24:29.936 >> I DON'T THINK HE HAS ANY 24:29.936 --> 24:32.372 INTEREST IN BETRAYING HIS 24:32.372 --> 24:35.175 CORE PRINCIPLES ON BEHALF OF BARACK OBAMA. 24:35.175 --> 24:36.309 >> BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT 24:36.309 --> 24:38.244 IT SEEMS LIKE DURING THE 24:38.244 --> 24:39.746 CAMPAIGN HE WOULD CHANGE HIS 24:39.746 --> 24:42.082 PRINCIPLES TO FIT THE MOMENT. 24:42.082 --> 24:42.982 DIDN'T HE? 24:42.982 --> 24:43.983 WASN'T THAT THE BIG 24:43.983 --> 24:44.884 CRITICISM THAT HE DIDN'T 24:44.884 --> 24:46.186 STAY WITH ONE SET OF IDEAS 24:46.186 --> 24:46.786 FOR VERY LONG? 24:46.786 --> 24:48.988 >> I THINK THAT HE CLEARLY 24:48.988 --> 24:50.223 TRIMMED A LITTLE BIT, BUT I 24:50.223 --> 24:51.024 DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY -- 24:51.024 --> 24:51.925 [LAUGHTER] 24:51.925 --> 24:55.228 I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO -- 24:55.228 --> 24:56.963 YOU COULD SAY THE SAME THING 24:56.963 --> 24:57.464 ABOUT OBAMA. 24:57.464 --> 24:58.365 I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO 24:58.365 --> 24:59.165 SAY THAT HE SIGNIFICANTLY 24:59.165 --> 25:00.000 SHIFTED. 25:00.000 --> 25:01.901 >> SO IF THE PRESIDENT SAID 25:01.901 --> 25:02.902 THE SECRETARY IS GOING TO 25:02.902 --> 25:04.704 RETIRE AND RETURN TO KANSAS, 25:04.704 --> 25:06.406 SPEAKER, WOULD YOU COME AND 25:06.406 --> 25:06.906 BE THE HEALTH AND HUMAN 25:06.906 --> 25:09.009 SERVICES SECRETARY, 25:09.009 --> 25:09.542 BIPARTISAN. 25:09.542 --> 25:11.444 >> AND HELP IMPLEMENT OBAMA CARE. 25:11.444 --> 25:12.545 >> HELP FIX IT. 25:12.545 --> 25:13.947 THINK OF IT AS HELP FIX IT. 25:13.947 --> 25:15.448 >> I WOULD SUGGEST AT THAT 25:15.448 --> 25:16.649 POINT THAT HE NEEDS TO 25:16.649 --> 25:17.751 REALLY SIT DOWN WITH HIS 25:17.751 --> 25:19.486 CLOSEST ADVISORS AND TALK 25:19.486 --> 25:22.188 ABOUT THE PRESSURES, THE 25:22.188 --> 25:23.189 DIFFICULTIES. 25:23.189 --> 25:24.190 >> FORTUNATELY MENTAL HEALTH 25:24.190 --> 25:25.992 IS COVERED UNDER OBAMA CARE. 25:25.992 --> 25:26.893 ACTUALLY, HE WOULD HAVE A 25:26.893 --> 25:27.894 WAY TO PAY FOR IT. 25:27.894 --> 25:28.595 SPEAKER, YOU'RE VERY 25:28.595 --> 25:30.230 GENEROUS WITH YOUR TIME. 25:30.230 --> 25:31.231 CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK. 25:31.231 --> 25:32.332 THANK YOU FOR TALKING POLITICS. 25:32.332 --> 25:33.233 SPEAKER NEWT GINGRICH. 25:33.233 --> 25:34.134 THANKS VERY MUCH. 25:34.134 --> 25:36.970 [APPLAUSE] 25:36.970 --> 25:38.571 >> WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU 25:38.571 --> 25:39.472 JOIN US IN THE STUDIO. 25:39.472 --> 25:41.274 VISIT YOUR WEBSITE AT 25:41.274 --> 25:43.376 KLRU.ORG/OVERHEARD TO FIND 25:43.376 --> 25:45.412 INVITATIONS TO INTERVIEWS, Q 25:45.412 --> 25:47.313 AND A'S WITH YOUR AUDIENCE 25:47.313 --> 25:49.516 AND GUEST AND AN ARCHIVE OF 25:49.516 --> 25:50.817 PAST EPISODES. 25:50.817 --> 25:53.720 >> PART OF WHAT'S DISGUSTING 25:53.720 --> 25:55.422 ABOUT THE WAY THE SUPER PACS 25:55.422 --> 25:56.423 HAVE OPERATED IS YOU GET 25:56.423 --> 25:57.524 CONSULTANTS WHO COME IN WHO 25:57.524 --> 25:58.425 HAVE NO INSTITUTIONAL 25:58.425 --> 26:00.260 MEMORY, NO VESTED INTEREST. 26:00.260 --> 26:01.361 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE 26:01.361 --> 26:02.762 AROUND AFTER IT'S OVER. 26:02.762 --> 26:03.963 THEY CAN RUN THE MOST 26:03.963 --> 26:05.498 NEGATIVE, VICIOUS, NASTY AD 26:05.498 --> 26:06.399 YOU CAN IMAGINE. 26:06.399 --> 26:07.701 HALF THE ADS ABOUT ME WERE 26:07.701 --> 26:10.904 JUST NOT TRUE. 26:10.904 --> 26:18.712 >> FUNDING FOR OVERHEARD 26:18.712 --> 26:19.713 WITH EVAN SMITH IS PROVIDED 26:19.713 --> 26:22.349 IN PART BY HILLCO PARTNERS, 26:22.349 --> 26:24.050 TEXAS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 26:24.050 --> 26:25.452 CONSULTANCY AND ITS GLOBAL 26:25.452 --> 26:26.453 HEALTH CARE CONSULTING 26:26.453 --> 26:29.155 BUSINESS UNIT, HILLCO HEALTH. 26:29.155 --> 26:30.156 AND BY THE MATTSSON MCHALE 26:30.156 --> 26:31.758 FOUNDATION IN SUPPORT OF 26:31.758 --> 26:33.059 PUBLIC TELEVISION. 26:33.059 --> 26:36.696 AND ALSO BY MFI FOUNDATION, 26:36.696 --> 26:38.031 IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF 26:38.031 --> 26:39.132 LIFE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 26:39.132 --> 26:40.734 AND ALSO BY THE ALICE 26:40.734 --> 26:42.135 KLEBERG REYNOLDS FOUNDATION, 26:42.135 --> 26:43.737 AND VIEWERS LIKE YOU. 26:43.737 --> 27:09.529 THANK YOU. 27:09.529 --> 27:10.930 >> NEXT TIME ON OVERHEARD... 27:10.930 --> 27:12.432 >> I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO 27:12.432 --> 27:14.067 OBAMA'S POLICIES, BUT I HAVE 27:14.067 --> 27:15.468 GREAT RESPECT FOR HIS 27:15.468 --> 27:16.569 LEADERSHIP AND THE FACT THAT 27:16.569 --> 27:18.538 THEY PUT A TEAM TOGETHER 27:18.538 --> 27:20.040 THAT RAN A CAMPAIGN. 27:20.040 --> 27:22.542 YOU HAVE BASICALLY AN 27:22.542 --> 27:24.844 OBSOLETE REPUBLICAN 27:24.844 --> 27:25.912 INSTITUTION COMPETING WITH A 27:25.912 --> 27:27.113 MODERN DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTION. 27:27.113 --> 27:29.049 MARGARET THATCHER ONCE SAID 27:29.049 --> 27:30.050 THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALISM 27:30.050 --> 27:31.184 IS IT RUNS OUT OF OTHER 27:31.184 --> 27:32.285 PEOPLE'S MONEY TO SPEND. 27:32.285 --> 27:34.187 AT SOME POINT PEOPLE WILL 27:34.187 --> 27:36.222 LOOK UP AND SAY GIVE ME A 27:36.222 --> 27:40.222 BETTER ALTERNATIVE.