1 00:00:02,802 --> 00:00:04,804 >> FUNDING FOR OVERHEARD 2 00:00:04,804 --> 00:00:06,306 WITH EVAN SMITH IS PROVIDED 3 00:00:06,306 --> 00:00:08,842 IN PART BY HILLCO PARTNERS, 4 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:10,443 TEXAS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 5 00:00:10,443 --> 00:00:11,945 CONSULTANCY, AND ITS GLOBAL 6 00:00:11,945 --> 00:00:13,079 HEALTH CARE CONSULTING 7 00:00:13,079 --> 00:00:14,881 BUSINESS UNIT, HILLCO 8 00:00:14,881 --> 00:00:15,482 HEALTH. 9 00:00:15,482 --> 00:00:16,883 AND BY THE MATTSSON MCHALE 10 00:00:16,883 --> 00:00:18,685 FOUNDATION IN SUPPORT OF 11 00:00:18,685 --> 00:00:19,386 PUBLIC TELEVISION. 12 00:00:19,386 --> 00:00:23,089 AND ALSO BY MFI FOUNDATION, 13 00:00:23,089 --> 00:00:24,290 IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF 14 00:00:24,290 --> 00:00:26,026 LIFE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 15 00:00:26,026 --> 00:00:27,227 AND ALSO BY THE ALICE 16 00:00:27,227 --> 00:00:28,628 KLEBERG REYNOLDS FOUNDATION, 17 00:00:28,628 --> 00:00:30,630 AND VIEWERS LIKE YOU. 18 00:00:30,630 --> 00:00:31,731 THANK YOU. 19 00:00:31,731 --> 00:00:34,134 >> I'M EVAN SMITH. 20 00:00:34,134 --> 00:00:35,235 HE'S A FORMER SPEAKER OF THE 21 00:00:35,235 --> 00:00:35,835 U.S. HOUSE OF 22 00:00:35,835 --> 00:00:37,137 REPRESENTATIVES, A CANDIDATE 23 00:00:37,137 --> 00:00:37,971 FOR THE REPUBLICAN 24 00:00:37,971 --> 00:00:39,305 PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION IN 25 00:00:39,305 --> 00:00:40,707 2012, AND THE AUTHOR OR 26 00:00:40,707 --> 00:00:43,309 CO-AUTHOR OF 18 NON-FICTION 27 00:00:43,309 --> 00:00:44,210 BOOKS AND 10 NOVELS, 28 00:00:44,210 --> 00:00:45,712 INCLUDING THE JUST PUBLISHED 29 00:00:45,712 --> 00:00:46,946 VICTORY AT YORKTOWN. 30 00:00:46,946 --> 00:00:48,148 HE'S THE HONORABLE NEWT 31 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:48,948 GINGRICH. 32 00:00:48,948 --> 00:00:49,749 THIS IS OVERHEARD. 33 00:00:49,749 --> 00:01:22,415 ยง 34 00:01:22,415 --> 00:01:24,818 >> MR. SPEAKER, WELCOME. 35 00:01:24,818 --> 00:01:26,119 VERY NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE. 36 00:01:26,119 --> 00:01:27,821 THANKS FOR COMING. 37 00:01:27,821 --> 00:01:28,655 CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK. 38 00:01:28,655 --> 00:01:29,055 >> THANK YOU AM. 39 00:01:29,055 --> 00:01:30,156 >> THIS IS THE THIRD NOVEL 40 00:01:30,156 --> 00:01:31,958 IN A SERIES ABOUT WASHINGTON 41 00:01:31,958 --> 00:01:32,992 AND THAT ERA OF OUR 42 00:01:32,992 --> 00:01:34,094 COUNTRY'S HISTORY. 43 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:35,095 CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY YOU 44 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:35,895 WROTE IT AND WHERE YOU ARE 45 00:01:35,895 --> 00:01:37,230 IN THE SERIES RIGHT NOW? 46 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:38,531 >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, 47 00:01:38,531 --> 00:01:39,132 DEPENDING UPON WHETHER OR 48 00:01:39,132 --> 00:01:40,033 NOT WE CAN CONVINCE OUR 49 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:41,434 PUBLISHER, I WANT TO GO BACK 50 00:01:41,434 --> 00:01:43,937 AND WRITE WASHINGTON THE 51 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:45,138 WILDERNESS WHICH COVERS HIM 52 00:01:45,138 --> 00:01:46,740 AS A VERY YOUNG MAN DURING 53 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:48,508 THE FRENCH-INDIAN WAR, WHICH 54 00:01:48,508 --> 00:01:49,509 IS A PERIOD ALMOST NOBODY 55 00:01:49,509 --> 00:01:50,310 HAS WRITTEN ABOUT IN A 56 00:01:50,310 --> 00:01:53,146 SERIOUS WAY. 57 00:01:53,146 --> 00:01:54,848 WE STARTED TO TRY MEN'S 58 00:01:54,848 --> 00:01:57,050 SOULS, WHICH IS WASHINGTON 59 00:01:57,050 --> 00:01:58,151 CROSSING THE DELAWARE ON 60 00:01:58,151 --> 00:01:59,352 CHRISTMAS NIGHT IN AN ICE 61 00:01:59,352 --> 00:02:02,856 STORM WITH SNOW -- WITH 62 00:02:02,856 --> 00:02:05,759 ENORMOUS SNOWSTORM WITH ICE 63 00:02:05,759 --> 00:02:07,394 IN THE RIVER, MARCHING NINE 64 00:02:07,394 --> 00:02:11,865 MILES AT NIGHT TO SURPRISE A 65 00:02:11,865 --> 00:02:13,466 GERMAN PROFESSIONAL UNIT AND 66 00:02:13,466 --> 00:02:15,368 CAPTURE 800 MEN AT THE LOSS 67 00:02:15,368 --> 00:02:16,569 OF ONE AMERICAN DEAD. 68 00:02:16,569 --> 00:02:17,771 IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST 69 00:02:17,771 --> 00:02:18,972 EXTRAORDINARY GAMBLES IN 70 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:20,173 AMERICAN HISTORY AND SAVED 71 00:02:20,173 --> 00:02:21,608 THE REVOLUTION FROM 72 00:02:21,608 --> 00:02:25,712 COLLAPSE. 73 00:02:25,712 --> 00:02:27,547 THEN WE WROTE VALLEY FORGE 74 00:02:27,547 --> 00:02:28,948 WHICH CAPTURES THE WHOLE 75 00:02:28,948 --> 00:02:30,150 TRAUMA OF THE AMERICAN ARMY 76 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:31,251 IN THE WINTER AND THE 77 00:02:31,251 --> 00:02:32,652 EMERGENCE OF THE ARMY UNDER 78 00:02:32,652 --> 00:02:35,855 THE TRAINING OF BARREN VON 79 00:02:35,855 --> 00:02:37,390 STEUBEN UNDER A MODERN 80 00:02:37,390 --> 00:02:38,391 SYSTEM CAPABLE OF FIGHTING 81 00:02:38,391 --> 00:02:38,992 THE BRITISH. 82 00:02:38,992 --> 00:02:40,126 NOW WE FINALLY HAVE 83 00:02:40,126 --> 00:02:41,928 WASHINGTON AND VICTORY AT 84 00:02:41,928 --> 00:02:45,865 YORKTOWN TAKING AN ENORMOUS 85 00:02:45,865 --> 00:02:47,467 STRATEGIC GAMBLE. 86 00:02:47,467 --> 00:02:48,968 HE CANNOT CAPTURE NEW YORK 87 00:02:48,968 --> 00:02:49,969 BECAUSE OF THE ROYAL NAVY. 88 00:02:49,969 --> 00:02:51,071 THE COUNTRY IS GETTING VERY 89 00:02:51,071 --> 00:02:52,072 TIRED OF THE WAR. 90 00:02:52,072 --> 00:02:53,073 THEY'VE BEEN AT IT SIX 91 00:02:53,073 --> 00:02:53,273 YEARS. 92 00:02:53,273 --> 00:02:54,307 THE FRENCH TROOPS ARE 93 00:02:54,307 --> 00:02:55,508 SITTING IN RHODE ISLAND WITH 94 00:02:55,508 --> 00:02:57,110 A VERY SMALL NAVY. 95 00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:58,611 WASHINGTON HAS TAKEN A THIRD 96 00:02:58,611 --> 00:03:00,013 OF HIS ARMY AND SENT IT DOWN 97 00:03:00,013 --> 00:03:03,149 TO SOUTH UNDER GENERAL GREEN 98 00:03:03,149 --> 00:03:05,051 AND THEY ARE SLOWLY CHEWING 99 00:03:05,051 --> 00:03:07,754 UP GENERAL CORNWALLIS' 100 00:03:07,754 --> 00:03:09,055 BRITISH ARMY WHO FIGHTS THEM 101 00:03:09,055 --> 00:03:10,557 IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NORTH 102 00:03:10,557 --> 00:03:11,758 CAROLINA AND VIRGINIA AND 103 00:03:11,758 --> 00:03:13,059 ENDS UP RETREATING TO THE 104 00:03:13,059 --> 00:03:15,261 PENINSULA AT YORKTOWN. 105 00:03:15,261 --> 00:03:16,763 WASHINGTON DECIDES HE WILL 106 00:03:16,763 --> 00:03:21,701 MARCH -- HE WILL BRING THE 107 00:03:21,701 --> 00:03:22,802 FRENCH FROM RHODE ISLAND TO 108 00:03:22,802 --> 00:03:23,903 NEW YORK, MASK THE BRITISH 109 00:03:23,903 --> 00:03:24,904 THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING 110 00:03:24,904 --> 00:03:27,507 ON, TAKE A THREE OR FOUR DAY 111 00:03:27,507 --> 00:03:28,908 HA LEAD, MARCH TO VIRGINIA 112 00:03:28,908 --> 00:03:30,143 AND HOPE THAT THE FRENCH 113 00:03:30,143 --> 00:03:34,147 NAVY WILL ARRIVE TO SEAL OFF 114 00:03:34,147 --> 00:03:34,647 YORKTOWN. 115 00:03:34,647 --> 00:03:36,383 THIS IS AN ENORMOUS MORAL 116 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:39,419 AND STRATEGIC GAMBLE AND 117 00:03:39,419 --> 00:03:40,220 HE'S DOING IT BECAUSE HE 118 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:41,121 THINKS THE COUNTRY HAS ABOUT 119 00:03:41,121 --> 00:03:42,322 RUN OUT OF ENERGY AND IF 120 00:03:42,322 --> 00:03:44,457 THEY DON'T WIN A VICTORY THE 121 00:03:44,457 --> 00:03:45,558 COUNTRY WILL COLLAPSE AND 122 00:03:45,558 --> 00:03:46,359 NEGOTIATE WITH THE BRITISH. 123 00:03:46,359 --> 00:03:47,460 >> PRETTY EXCITING. 124 00:03:47,460 --> 00:03:48,361 >> WELL, GREAT MOMENT. 125 00:03:48,361 --> 00:03:50,063 THE ONLY TIME IN THE ENTIRE 126 00:03:50,063 --> 00:03:51,064 WAR THAT YOU SEE WASHINGTON 127 00:03:51,064 --> 00:03:52,465 LOSE SELF CONTROL IS WHEN HE 128 00:03:52,465 --> 00:03:54,100 SEES THE FRENCH FLEET. 129 00:03:54,100 --> 00:03:56,703 AND HE LITERALLY IS 130 00:03:56,703 --> 00:03:57,504 DESCRIBED BY SEVERAL 131 00:03:57,504 --> 00:03:58,905 WITNESSES AS SEEMING AS 132 00:03:58,905 --> 00:04:00,306 THOUGH HE WERE CRAZY BECAUSE 133 00:04:00,306 --> 00:04:02,409 HE'S DANCING AROUND AND HE'S 134 00:04:02,409 --> 00:04:03,309 YELLING AND HE HAS TEARS 135 00:04:03,309 --> 00:04:05,712 COMING DOWN BECAUSE THE 136 00:04:05,712 --> 00:04:08,548 MORAL COST OF CARRYING A 137 00:04:08,548 --> 00:04:11,251 COUNTRY TO FREEDOM SIX YEARS 138 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:14,554 OF -- HE ONLY SPENDS ONE 139 00:04:14,554 --> 00:04:16,990 WEEK IN MOUNT VERNON, HIS 140 00:04:16,990 --> 00:04:18,291 HOME, IN SIX YEARS. 141 00:04:18,291 --> 00:04:19,292 SO THIS IS A BIG DEAL. 142 00:04:19,292 --> 00:04:19,893 >> IT IS. 143 00:04:19,893 --> 00:04:21,094 SO THE LOGICAL QUESTION IS 144 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:23,496 WHAT CAN YOUR PARTY AFTER 145 00:04:23,496 --> 00:04:24,998 THIS ELECTION LEARN FROM 146 00:04:24,998 --> 00:04:26,299 GEORGE WASHINGTON? 147 00:04:26,299 --> 00:04:27,734 [LAUGHTER] 148 00:04:27,734 --> 00:04:28,935 >> I THINK CHEERFUL 149 00:04:28,935 --> 00:04:30,236 PERSISTENCE. 150 00:04:30,236 --> 00:04:30,537 [LAUGHTER] 151 00:04:30,537 --> 00:04:31,438 >> IS THAT IT? 152 00:04:31,438 --> 00:04:32,238 I LIKE THAT ANSWER. 153 00:04:32,238 --> 00:04:33,106 THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER. 154 00:04:33,106 --> 00:04:34,374 >> BUT ALSO THE WILLINGNESS 155 00:04:34,374 --> 00:04:35,575 TO LEARN FROM MISTAKES. 156 00:04:35,575 --> 00:04:36,710 PEOPLE SAID WASHINGTON OFTEN 157 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:38,511 MADE A MISTAKE ONCE. 158 00:04:38,511 --> 00:04:42,015 THEY DIDN'T MAKE A MISTAKE 159 00:04:42,015 --> 00:04:42,415 TWICE. 160 00:04:42,415 --> 00:04:43,616 AND I SAY SOME VERY OBVIOUS 161 00:04:43,616 --> 00:04:44,017 THINGS. 162 00:04:44,017 --> 00:04:45,518 I ACTUALLY WROTE A PIECE AND 163 00:04:45,518 --> 00:04:46,619 SAID THAT THE FIRST THING 164 00:04:46,619 --> 00:04:47,520 REPUBLICANS NEED TO DO IS 165 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,356 STOP AND THINK. 166 00:04:49,356 --> 00:04:50,557 ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE RUNNING 167 00:04:50,557 --> 00:04:51,458 AROUND BABBLING. 168 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:52,058 THEY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT 169 00:04:52,058 --> 00:04:52,325 HAPPENED. 170 00:04:52,325 --> 00:04:53,660 THEY HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE 171 00:04:53,660 --> 00:04:55,161 DATA, THEY HAVEN'T ANALYZED 172 00:04:55,161 --> 00:04:55,862 THE CAMPAIGN. 173 00:04:55,862 --> 00:04:57,364 THEY HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT 174 00:04:57,364 --> 00:04:57,564 IT. 175 00:04:57,564 --> 00:04:58,565 I WILL SPEND FOUR TO SIX 176 00:04:58,565 --> 00:04:59,566 MONTHS RESEARCHING WHAT 177 00:04:59,566 --> 00:05:01,968 HAPPENED AND THEN WRITE A 178 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:03,803 GINGRICH REPORT ON THE 179 00:05:03,803 --> 00:05:05,205 FUTURE OF CONSERVATISM IN 180 00:05:05,205 --> 00:05:06,106 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY 181 00:05:06,106 --> 00:05:07,507 PROBABLY BY NEXT MAY OR 182 00:05:07,507 --> 00:05:07,907 JUNE. 183 00:05:07,907 --> 00:05:09,109 >> SO YOU DON'T SHARE THE 184 00:05:09,109 --> 00:05:11,111 ANGST AND THE TEETH GNASHING 185 00:05:11,111 --> 00:05:13,713 AND THE PESSIMISM THAT SOME 186 00:05:13,713 --> 00:05:15,315 OF YOUR PARTY HAVE EXHIBITED 187 00:05:15,315 --> 00:05:16,816 OVER LAST 10 DAYS IN THE 188 00:05:16,816 --> 00:05:17,217 RESULT. 189 00:05:17,217 --> 00:05:18,651 >> WELL, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH 190 00:05:18,651 --> 00:05:19,052 THE RESULT. 191 00:05:19,052 --> 00:05:20,754 BUT I SURVIVED GOLDWATER'S 192 00:05:20,754 --> 00:05:21,654 COLLAPSE, I SURVIVED 193 00:05:21,654 --> 00:05:22,255 WATERGATE. 194 00:05:22,255 --> 00:05:25,191 I GOT BEATEN TWICE IN 74 AND 195 00:05:25,191 --> 00:05:25,692 76. 196 00:05:25,692 --> 00:05:27,193 THIS IS A TOUGH BUSINESS. 197 00:05:27,193 --> 00:05:28,395 THE PRESIDENT RAN A 198 00:05:28,395 --> 00:05:29,629 BRILLIANT CAMPAIGN. 199 00:05:29,629 --> 00:05:30,230 WHATEVER -- 200 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:31,531 >> YOU CREDIT HIM WITH THAT? 201 00:05:31,531 --> 00:05:32,732 >> LOOK, I'M STRONGLY 202 00:05:32,732 --> 00:05:34,134 OPPOSED TO OBAMA'S POLICIES, 203 00:05:34,134 --> 00:05:35,735 BUT I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR 204 00:05:35,735 --> 00:05:36,803 HIS LEADERSHIP AND THE FACT 205 00:05:36,803 --> 00:05:37,804 THAT THEY PUT A TEAM 206 00:05:37,804 --> 00:05:39,906 TOGETHER THAT RAN A 207 00:05:39,906 --> 00:05:40,607 CAMPAIGN. 208 00:05:40,607 --> 00:05:42,542 YOU HAVE BASICALLY AN 209 00:05:42,542 --> 00:05:44,444 OBSOLETE REPUBLICAN 210 00:05:44,444 --> 00:05:45,545 INSTITUTION COMPETING WITH A 211 00:05:45,545 --> 00:05:46,746 MODERN DEMOCRATIC 212 00:05:46,746 --> 00:05:47,947 INSTITUTION, AND YOU GET THE 213 00:05:47,947 --> 00:05:49,949 SAME RESULTS YOU WOULD GET 214 00:05:49,949 --> 00:05:50,750 IN WARFARE. 215 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:51,951 IMAGINE YOU SENT SOMEBODY 216 00:05:51,951 --> 00:05:53,753 OUT WITH NO AIRCRAFT, NO 217 00:05:53,753 --> 00:05:56,756 COMPUTERS, NO SATELLITES, NO 218 00:05:56,756 --> 00:05:58,158 DRONES, AND YOU SAID HERE, 219 00:05:58,158 --> 00:06:00,393 WHY DON'T YOU GO COMPETE. 220 00:06:00,393 --> 00:06:01,695 OBAMA SIMPLY AND THE 221 00:06:01,695 --> 00:06:03,196 DEMOCRATS -- I GIVE THEM A 222 00:06:03,196 --> 00:06:03,997 LOT OF CREDIT. 223 00:06:03,997 --> 00:06:05,198 YOU HAVE TO RESPECT YOUR 224 00:06:05,198 --> 00:06:06,900 OPPONENTS WHEN THEY BEAT YOU 225 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:07,801 DECISIVELY. 226 00:06:07,801 --> 00:06:08,835 >> AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED 227 00:06:08,835 --> 00:06:09,135 IN THIS CASE. 228 00:06:09,135 --> 00:06:10,937 >> WELL, IF YOU HAD TOLD ME 229 00:06:10,937 --> 00:06:13,540 TWO WEEKS AGO THAT ROMNEY 230 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:14,974 WOULD GET FEWER VOTES THAN 231 00:06:14,974 --> 00:06:17,077 JOHN MCCAIN, I WOULDN'T HAVE 232 00:06:17,077 --> 00:06:17,477 BELIEVED YOU. 233 00:06:17,477 --> 00:06:18,878 >> OR THAT OBAMA WOULD GET 234 00:06:18,878 --> 00:06:19,679 MORE VOTES THAN GEORGE W. 235 00:06:19,679 --> 00:06:21,381 BUSH DID IN 2004. 236 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:23,083 SO GOVERNOR ROMNEY SAID 237 00:06:23,083 --> 00:06:24,184 YESTERDAY, NOW SOMEWHAT 238 00:06:24,184 --> 00:06:25,352 FAMOUSLY, THAT THE REASON 239 00:06:25,352 --> 00:06:26,786 THAT THE PRESIDENT WON IS 240 00:06:26,786 --> 00:06:28,121 BECAUSE HE GAVE GIFTS TO 241 00:06:28,121 --> 00:06:29,289 MINORITIES IN THE FORM OF 242 00:06:29,289 --> 00:06:30,357 HEALTH CARE OR TO YOUNG 243 00:06:30,357 --> 00:06:32,359 PEOPLE IN THE FORM OF 244 00:06:32,359 --> 00:06:33,660 PREFERABLE COLLEGE LOANS. 245 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:35,495 >> I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED. 246 00:06:35,495 --> 00:06:36,930 >> WITH GOVERNOR ROMNEY FOR 247 00:06:36,930 --> 00:06:37,330 SAYING THAT. 248 00:06:37,330 --> 00:06:38,832 >> WITH GOVERNOR ROMNEY'S 249 00:06:38,832 --> 00:06:40,233 ANALYSIS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS 250 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:41,234 INSULTING AND PROFOUNDLY 251 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:41,735 WRONG. 252 00:06:41,735 --> 00:06:42,435 >> YEAH. 253 00:06:42,435 --> 00:06:44,971 CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? 254 00:06:44,971 --> 00:06:45,572 WHY IS THAT? 255 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:47,640 >> FIRST OF ALL, WE DIDN'T 256 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,242 LOSE A ASIAN AMERICANS 257 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:50,543 BECAUSE WE GIVE GIFTS. 258 00:06:50,543 --> 00:06:53,279 >> 73% OF ASIAN AMERICANS, 259 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,781 71% OF LATINOS. 260 00:06:54,781 --> 00:06:55,582 >> THIS IS THE HARDEST 261 00:06:55,582 --> 00:06:56,983 WORKING AND MOST SUCCESSFUL 262 00:06:56,983 --> 00:06:58,385 ETHNIC GROUP IN AMERICA. 263 00:06:58,385 --> 00:06:59,686 THEY AIN'T INTO GIFTS. 264 00:06:59,686 --> 00:07:02,088 [LAUGHTER] 265 00:07:02,088 --> 00:07:03,790 SECOND, IT'S AN INSULT TO 266 00:07:03,790 --> 00:07:04,491 ALL AMERICANS. 267 00:07:04,491 --> 00:07:06,426 IT REDUCES US TO ECONOMIC 268 00:07:06,426 --> 00:07:09,129 ENTITIES WHO HAVE NO 269 00:07:09,129 --> 00:07:12,932 PASSION, NO IDEALISM, NO 270 00:07:12,932 --> 00:07:14,434 DREAMS, NO PHILOSOPHY AND 271 00:07:14,434 --> 00:07:16,336 IT -- IF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 272 00:07:16,336 --> 00:07:17,871 THAT SIMPLE, MY QUESTION 273 00:07:17,871 --> 00:07:19,272 WOULD BE WHY DIDN'T YOU OUT 274 00:07:19,272 --> 00:07:19,839 BID HIM? 275 00:07:19,839 --> 00:07:20,774 >> YOU HAD THE MONEY. 276 00:07:20,774 --> 00:07:23,176 [LAUGHTER] YOU COULD BE IN 277 00:07:23,176 --> 00:07:24,711 THE GIFT GIVING BUSINESS. 278 00:07:24,711 --> 00:07:26,312 >> HE HAD ENOUGH BILLIONAIRE 279 00:07:26,312 --> 00:07:27,213 SUPPORTER. 280 00:07:27,213 --> 00:07:30,517 IF BUYING THE ELECTORATE WAS 281 00:07:30,517 --> 00:07:31,418 THE KEY HE COULD HAVE DON'T 282 00:07:31,418 --> 00:07:32,919 HIS SUPER PAC FRIENDS 283 00:07:32,919 --> 00:07:33,920 TOGETHER AND SAID GIVE 284 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:34,521 GIFTS. 285 00:07:34,521 --> 00:07:35,822 BE LIKE THE NORTHWEST INDIAN 286 00:07:35,822 --> 00:07:37,257 WHOSE HAVE GIFT GIVING 287 00:07:37,257 --> 00:07:39,092 CEREMONIES AND HE COULD HAVE 288 00:07:39,092 --> 00:07:40,694 GONE DOWN BY TOWN AND SAID 289 00:07:40,694 --> 00:07:41,895 COME HERE AND LET ME GIVE 290 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:42,495 YOU GIFTS. 291 00:07:42,495 --> 00:07:43,496 HERE ARE REPUBLICAN GIFTS. 292 00:07:43,496 --> 00:07:45,632 YOU COULD HAVE AN ELEPHANT 293 00:07:45,632 --> 00:07:47,033 COMING IN WITH GIFTS ON IT. 294 00:07:47,033 --> 00:07:47,634 [LAUGHTER] 295 00:07:47,634 --> 00:07:48,835 >> YOU'RE VERY GRACIOUS 296 00:07:48,835 --> 00:07:49,536 SPEAKER TO GIVE THE 297 00:07:49,536 --> 00:07:50,637 PRESIDENT CREDIT, BUT YOU 298 00:07:50,637 --> 00:07:51,738 KNOW THE FACT IS THERE ARE A 299 00:07:51,738 --> 00:07:52,839 LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THINK 300 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:53,640 THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA DIDN'T 301 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,741 WIN THIS ELECTION SO MUCH AS 302 00:07:54,741 --> 00:07:55,809 GOVERNOR ROMNEY LOST IT. 303 00:07:55,809 --> 00:07:56,876 I WONDER IF YOU HAVE A POINT 304 00:07:56,876 --> 00:07:58,278 OF VIEW ABOUT THE QUALITY OF 305 00:07:58,278 --> 00:07:59,979 GOVERNOR ROMNEY'S CANDIDACY. 306 00:07:59,979 --> 00:08:01,081 >> WELL, LET ME GO BACK TO 307 00:08:01,081 --> 00:08:02,816 THE FIRST HALF OF THAT. 308 00:08:02,816 --> 00:08:06,219 YOU DON'T GET 87 AND A HALF% 309 00:08:06,219 --> 00:08:07,420 TURNOUT IN MILWAUKEE BY 310 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:07,721 ACCIDENT. 311 00:08:07,721 --> 00:08:09,122 >> BY NOT WINNING THE 312 00:08:09,122 --> 00:08:09,322 ELECTION. 313 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:10,924 >> THIS PRESIDENT -- I 314 00:08:10,924 --> 00:08:12,325 DIDN'T THINK -- I SAID 315 00:08:12,325 --> 00:08:17,130 PUBLICLY WE BEAT HIM 53-47 316 00:08:17,130 --> 00:08:19,666 AND GET 53 ELECTORAL VOTES. 317 00:08:19,666 --> 00:08:20,667 I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS 318 00:08:20,667 --> 00:08:21,868 POSSIBLE TO TAKE EIGHT AND A 319 00:08:21,868 --> 00:08:22,769 HALF PERCENT UNEMPLOYMENT, 320 00:08:22,769 --> 00:08:24,471 TWO DOLLARS EXTRA FOR 321 00:08:24,471 --> 00:08:26,873 GASOLINE, GIGANTIC DEFICITS, 322 00:08:26,873 --> 00:08:29,776 THE BENGHAZI MESS, RADICAL 323 00:08:29,776 --> 00:08:31,644 POLICIES AND GET REELECTED. 324 00:08:31,644 --> 00:08:32,679 I THOUGHT SOMEWHERE IN THERE 325 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:33,380 WAS TILT. 326 00:08:33,380 --> 00:08:35,315 >> SO WOULD NOMINEE GINGRICH 327 00:08:35,315 --> 00:08:37,017 HAVE DONE BETTER IN THE END 328 00:08:37,017 --> 00:08:39,119 THAN NOMINEE ROMNEY? 329 00:08:39,119 --> 00:08:40,320 >> I HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING 330 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:40,720 THAT. 331 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,522 I DO THINK THE ONE WAY WHERE 332 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:45,425 EITHER RICK PERRY OR I WOULD 333 00:08:45,425 --> 00:08:46,092 HAVE DONE BETTER IS 334 00:08:46,092 --> 00:08:48,294 APPEALING TO LATINO AMERICANS. 335 00:08:48,294 --> 00:08:49,863 >> THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT. 336 00:08:49,863 --> 00:08:51,998 >> BUT GOVERNOR ROMNEY IS A 337 00:08:51,998 --> 00:08:53,099 VERY GOOD ORGANIZER. 338 00:08:53,099 --> 00:08:53,900 HE'S A VERY CAPABLE 339 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:54,701 FUND-RAISER. 340 00:08:54,701 --> 00:08:56,403 HE DID BRILLIANTLY IN THE 341 00:08:56,403 --> 00:08:57,303 FIRST DEBATE. 342 00:08:57,303 --> 00:08:58,805 IT IS THE MOST ONE SIDED 343 00:08:58,805 --> 00:09:00,407 DEBATE IN THE HISTORY OF 344 00:09:00,407 --> 00:09:01,474 PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. 345 00:09:01,474 --> 00:09:02,509 YOU HAVE TO GIVE HIM A FAIR 346 00:09:02,509 --> 00:09:03,309 AMOUNT OF CREDIT. 347 00:09:03,309 --> 00:09:04,744 BUT I DO THINK IF YOU START 348 00:09:04,744 --> 00:09:07,347 OFF BY SEALING OFF THE 349 00:09:07,347 --> 00:09:08,448 LATINO AMERICANS AND ASIAN 350 00:09:08,448 --> 00:09:09,916 AMERICANS YOU MAKE IT ALMOST 351 00:09:09,916 --> 00:09:12,519 MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN. 352 00:09:12,519 --> 00:09:13,920 AND IF YOU THEN RUN A 353 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,522 PERSONALITY RACE, YOU MAKE 354 00:09:15,522 --> 00:09:18,024 IT HARDER TO TURN OUT YOUR 355 00:09:18,024 --> 00:09:18,525 OWN BASE. 356 00:09:18,525 --> 00:09:20,527 SO YOU HAVE A DUALITY THERE. 357 00:09:20,527 --> 00:09:21,728 I THINK THIS FACT THAT HE 358 00:09:21,728 --> 00:09:22,929 RAN A MILLION VOTES OR A 359 00:09:22,929 --> 00:09:24,030 MILLION AND A HALF VOTES 360 00:09:24,030 --> 00:09:26,566 BEHIND MCCAIN HAS TO BE 361 00:09:26,566 --> 00:09:27,834 TROUBLING, BUT I THINK IT'S 362 00:09:27,834 --> 00:09:28,968 A HUGE MISTAKE FOR 363 00:09:28,968 --> 00:09:30,470 REPUBLICANS TO BLAME ROMNEY. 364 00:09:30,470 --> 00:09:32,172 WE LOST NORTH DAKOTA FOR THE SENATE. 365 00:09:32,172 --> 00:09:33,773 WE LOST MONTANA FOR THE SENATE. 366 00:09:33,773 --> 00:09:35,675 WE LOST GOVERNORS RACES IN 367 00:09:35,675 --> 00:09:37,344 NEW HAMPSHIRE, MONTANA AND 368 00:09:37,344 --> 00:09:39,346 WASHINGTON STATE. 369 00:09:39,346 --> 00:09:40,447 YOU HAVE TO GO OUT THERE AND 370 00:09:40,447 --> 00:09:41,948 SAY THERE ARE SOME SYSTEMIC 371 00:09:41,948 --> 00:09:45,552 THINGS HERE THAT ROMNEY MAY 372 00:09:45,552 --> 00:09:48,188 OR MAY NOT HAVE SOLVED, BUT 373 00:09:48,188 --> 00:09:50,490 YOU CAN'T BLAME MITT ROMNEY 374 00:09:50,490 --> 00:09:51,491 FOR THIS OUTCOME. 375 00:09:51,491 --> 00:09:52,892 >> SO THOSE WHO SAY WE LOST 376 00:09:52,892 --> 00:09:54,394 YOU LAST TIME WHEN YOU 377 00:09:54,394 --> 00:09:55,895 NOMINATED JOHN MCCAIN AND 378 00:09:55,895 --> 00:09:57,097 THIS TIME WITH MITT ROMNEY, 379 00:09:57,097 --> 00:09:58,198 WHEN YOU NOMINATE SOMEONE 380 00:09:58,198 --> 00:09:59,699 WHO IS INSUFFICIENTLY 381 00:09:59,699 --> 00:10:00,800 CONSERVATIVE, YOU WILL LOSE. 382 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:01,835 NEXT TIME THE MESSAGE IS 383 00:10:01,835 --> 00:10:02,936 NOMINATE SOMEBODY WHO IS 384 00:10:02,936 --> 00:10:03,737 SIGNIFICANTLY MORE 385 00:10:03,737 --> 00:10:05,038 CONSERVATIVE THAN ANY OF 386 00:10:05,038 --> 00:10:06,639 THOSE TWO, WHERE DO YOU COME 387 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:07,340 DOWN ON THAT? 388 00:10:07,340 --> 00:10:09,442 >> I SAID ALL SPRING THAT I 389 00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:10,143 THOUGHT THERE WERE OTHER 390 00:10:10,143 --> 00:10:12,245 CANDIDATES WHO WOULD HAVE 391 00:10:12,245 --> 00:10:13,446 BEEN BETTER IN ROMNEY. 392 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:14,748 I HAVE ONE IN MIND. 393 00:10:14,748 --> 00:10:16,549 [LAUGHTER] BUT IT'S NOT 394 00:10:16,549 --> 00:10:17,283 ABOUT BEING MORE 395 00:10:17,283 --> 00:10:18,284 CONSERVATIVE OR LESS. 396 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:19,886 YOU NEED SOMEBODY WHO IS 397 00:10:19,886 --> 00:10:21,588 ARTICULATE, WHO IS ABLE TO 398 00:10:21,588 --> 00:10:22,889 COMMUNICATE A VISION OF 399 00:10:22,889 --> 00:10:25,191 AMERICA'S FUTURE, BUT IT 400 00:10:25,191 --> 00:10:27,093 ALSO STARTS WITH A VERY 401 00:10:27,093 --> 00:10:27,694 SIMPLE PROMISE. 402 00:10:27,694 --> 00:10:30,296 I WANT TO REPRESENT 100% OF AMERICA. 403 00:10:30,296 --> 00:10:31,431 I WANT TO FIND WHAT IS THE 404 00:10:31,431 --> 00:10:33,833 COMMON GROUND THAT BRINGS US TOGETHER. 405 00:10:33,833 --> 00:10:34,934 WHAT'S THE VISION OF A 406 00:10:34,934 --> 00:10:36,469 BETTER FUTURE THAT BRINGS US TOGETHER? 407 00:10:36,469 --> 00:10:40,907 IF YOU BELIEVE AS I DO THAT 408 00:10:40,907 --> 00:10:42,108 THE LEFT DOESN'T WORK, THAT 409 00:10:42,108 --> 00:10:44,310 AS MARGARET MATCHER ONCE 410 00:10:44,310 --> 00:10:45,512 SAID, THE PROBLEM WITH 411 00:10:45,512 --> 00:10:46,713 SOCIALISM IS IT RUNS OUT OF 412 00:10:46,713 --> 00:10:47,814 OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY TO 413 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:49,282 SPEND, AT SOME POINT PEOPLE 414 00:10:49,282 --> 00:10:50,483 WILL LOOK UP AND SAY GIVE ME 415 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:52,152 A BETTER ALTERNATIVE. 416 00:10:52,152 --> 00:10:53,853 WHOEVER WE CAN NOMINATE WHO 417 00:10:53,853 --> 00:10:54,954 CAN ARTICULATE A BETTER 418 00:10:54,954 --> 00:10:57,023 ALTERNATIVE AND WHO CAN 419 00:10:57,023 --> 00:10:58,224 WITHSTAND THE MEDIA AND 420 00:10:58,224 --> 00:11:00,927 WITHSTAND THE DEBATES IS THE 421 00:11:00,927 --> 00:11:02,128 RIGHT PERSON TO PICK. 422 00:11:02,128 --> 00:11:04,431 BUT I THINK IT'S DEEPER THAN THAT. 423 00:11:04,431 --> 00:11:05,231 THAT'S WHY I DON'T WANT TO 424 00:11:05,231 --> 00:11:06,132 FOCUS ON ROMNEY. 425 00:11:06,132 --> 00:11:09,135 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS AN 426 00:11:09,135 --> 00:11:10,136 INSTITUTION IS TODAY NOT 427 00:11:10,136 --> 00:11:11,538 COMPETITIVE IN A NUMBER OF 428 00:11:11,538 --> 00:11:12,872 KEY WAYS AND THE REPUBLICAN 429 00:11:12,872 --> 00:11:14,474 PARTY, LONG BEFORE IT WORRY 430 00:11:14,474 --> 00:11:15,375 ABOUT WHO IT'S GOING TO 431 00:11:15,375 --> 00:11:17,277 NOMINATE, HAS TO THINK ABOUT 432 00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:19,679 BECOMING A COMPETITIVE INSTITUTION. 433 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:20,880 >> AND YET PEOPLE SAY OFTEN 434 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,217 THIS IS AN INHERENTLY SMALL 435 00:11:24,217 --> 00:11:25,919 SEAT CONSERVATIVE COUNTRY. 436 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:26,720 WE HEARD THAT A LOT. 437 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:27,721 HOW DO YOU HAVE A CENTER 438 00:11:27,721 --> 00:11:28,855 RIGHT COUNTRY, BUT A PARTY 439 00:11:28,855 --> 00:11:30,690 THAT CAN CAPITALIZE ON IT 440 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:31,591 THAT'S ABOUT EXECUTION. 441 00:11:31,591 --> 00:11:32,992 >> I THINK YOU STARTED TO 442 00:11:32,992 --> 00:11:34,094 SAY IT, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY 443 00:11:34,094 --> 00:11:35,995 OVERPERFORMS ON ITS IDEOLOGY 444 00:11:35,995 --> 00:11:37,430 AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY 445 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:39,432 UNDERPERFORMS ON ITS IDEOLOGY. 446 00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:40,433 >> LET ME COME BACK TO THE 447 00:11:40,433 --> 00:11:42,235 QUESTION OF LATINOS BECAUSE 448 00:11:42,235 --> 00:11:43,737 MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION 449 00:11:43,737 --> 00:11:44,771 SINCE THE ELECTION IS WHERE 450 00:11:44,771 --> 00:11:45,872 THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WENT 451 00:11:45,872 --> 00:11:48,575 WRONG ON LATINOS. 452 00:11:48,575 --> 00:11:49,943 ON FOX ON THE NIGHT OF THE 453 00:11:49,943 --> 00:11:51,077 ELECTION ONE SAID THAT WHERE 454 00:11:51,077 --> 00:11:51,978 GOVERNOR ROMNEY WENT WRONG 455 00:11:51,978 --> 00:11:53,580 IS WHEN HE GOT TO THE RIGHT 456 00:11:53,580 --> 00:11:55,281 OF RICK PERRY ON INSTATE 457 00:11:55,281 --> 00:11:56,182 TUITION DURING THAT DEBATE 458 00:11:56,182 --> 00:11:57,684 IN ORLANDO AND THAT THE 459 00:11:57,684 --> 00:11:58,918 TAKEAWAY FROM THAT IS YOU'RE 460 00:11:58,918 --> 00:12:00,653 TRYING TO ATTRACT A GROUP OF 461 00:12:00,653 --> 00:12:02,555 PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE SOMEHOW 462 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:03,857 INSULTING OR SEEMING TO 463 00:12:03,857 --> 00:12:04,858 INSULT WITH THE LEGISLATION 464 00:12:04,858 --> 00:12:05,992 THAT YOU PROPOSE, THE WORDS 465 00:12:05,992 --> 00:12:08,194 AND DEEDS THAT YOU PUT FORWARD. 466 00:12:08,194 --> 00:12:09,095 DO YOU THINK THAT THE MEDIA 467 00:12:09,095 --> 00:12:10,397 IN PARTICULAR HAS MADE TOO 468 00:12:10,397 --> 00:12:11,498 MUCH OF THE RIFT BETWEEN 469 00:12:11,498 --> 00:12:13,199 REPUBLICANS AND LATINOS AND 470 00:12:13,199 --> 00:12:14,534 HOW DO YOU BRING THE LATINO 471 00:12:14,534 --> 00:12:15,735 COMMUNITY, WHICH IS SO FAST 472 00:12:15,735 --> 00:12:17,404 GROWING IN SO MANY PLACES IN 473 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:18,438 THE COUNTRY, BACK INTO THE 474 00:12:18,438 --> 00:12:20,874 REPUBLICAN PARTY FOLD? 475 00:12:20,874 --> 00:12:22,676 >> LET ME START AND SAY IF 476 00:12:22,676 --> 00:12:24,778 YOU HAVE AN INTELLIGENT 477 00:12:24,778 --> 00:12:26,479 OPPONENT AND YOU MAKE A 478 00:12:26,479 --> 00:12:27,881 SUBSTANTIAL MISTAKE, YOU 479 00:12:27,881 --> 00:12:29,082 DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON THE 480 00:12:29,082 --> 00:12:31,584 MEDIA BECAUSE YOUR OPPONENT 481 00:12:31,584 --> 00:12:32,786 WILL COMMUNICATE IT. 482 00:12:32,786 --> 00:12:34,187 THE OBAMA PEOPLE BEGAN 483 00:12:34,187 --> 00:12:39,659 ADVERTISING ON UNIVISION AND 484 00:12:39,659 --> 00:12:42,195 TELEMUNDO IN MAY. 485 00:12:42,195 --> 00:12:43,296 NOW, I ACTUALLY THINK THAT 486 00:12:43,296 --> 00:12:45,699 THE BIGGER MISTAKE WAS WHEN 487 00:12:45,699 --> 00:12:50,003 I SAID WE'RE GOING TO DEPORT GRANDMOTHER. 488 00:12:50,003 --> 00:12:52,939 AND ROMNEY SAID WELL, SHE'LL SELF-DEPORT. 489 00:12:52,939 --> 00:12:55,241 BECAUSE THAT BECAME A COMMERCIAL. 490 00:12:55,241 --> 00:12:55,842 >> IT WAS ONE OF THE 491 00:12:55,842 --> 00:12:57,444 MEMORABLE PHRASES OF THE CAMPAIGN. 492 00:12:57,444 --> 00:12:59,079 >> AND YOU GO TO A COMMUNITY 493 00:12:59,079 --> 00:13:00,780 AND GO HI, I'VE GOT THIS 494 00:13:00,780 --> 00:13:02,482 REALLY GREAT ECONOMIC 495 00:13:02,482 --> 00:13:03,283 ARGUMENTS AND YOUR 496 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:04,984 GRANDMOTHER WON'T BE HERE 497 00:13:04,984 --> 00:13:06,286 DURING THE PROSPERITY, BUT I 498 00:13:06,286 --> 00:13:07,087 DON'T WANT YOU TO WORRY 499 00:13:07,087 --> 00:13:08,188 ABOUT THAT PART OF IT 500 00:13:08,188 --> 00:13:10,690 BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE A LOT BETTER JOB. 501 00:13:10,690 --> 00:13:14,094 WELL, IF YOU'RE A PRO FAMILY 502 00:13:14,094 --> 00:13:15,128 CONSERVATIVE AND YOU'RE 503 00:13:15,128 --> 00:13:15,929 SUGGESTING WE'RE GOING TO 504 00:13:15,929 --> 00:13:18,832 KICK OUT GRANDMA, YOU'RE 505 00:13:18,832 --> 00:13:22,035 CREATING A KIND OF EMOTIONAL TENSION. 506 00:13:22,035 --> 00:13:23,136 AND THE COMMUNITY KIND OF 507 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:25,839 GOES, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. 508 00:13:25,839 --> 00:13:27,240 I CAN HAVE IMAGE NATIONALLY 509 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,441 HIGHER UNEMPLOYMENT, BUT 510 00:13:28,441 --> 00:13:29,976 GRANDMA WILL BE HERE ON SUNDAY. 511 00:13:29,976 --> 00:13:32,679 OR I COULD KICK GRANDMA OUT, 512 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,014 BUT I'LL GET A BETTER JOB. 513 00:13:34,014 --> 00:13:35,315 WELL, LUCKILY FOR ALL OF US 514 00:13:35,315 --> 00:13:36,750 THIS IS NOT A COUNTRY THAT 515 00:13:36,750 --> 00:13:38,451 KICKS OUT GRANDMA FOR THE JOB. 516 00:13:38,451 --> 00:13:40,053 >> SO IN THE AFFIRMATIVE 517 00:13:40,053 --> 00:13:41,755 SENSE WHERE DOES YOUR PARTY 518 00:13:41,755 --> 00:13:42,922 NOW GO TO HAVE A 519 00:13:42,922 --> 00:13:44,457 CONVERSATION WITH THE LATINO 520 00:13:44,457 --> 00:13:45,458 COMMUNITY THAT IS PRODUCTIVE 521 00:13:45,458 --> 00:13:46,760 WHERE LATINOS MAY THINK WE 522 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:47,627 HAVE TWO OPTIONS? 523 00:13:47,627 --> 00:13:48,695 >> I THINK YOU HAVE TO START 524 00:13:48,695 --> 00:13:52,499 WITH RICK PERRY AND JEB BUSH 525 00:13:52,499 --> 00:13:54,801 AND MARCO RUBEIO AND NEWT 526 00:13:54,801 --> 00:13:57,671 GINGRICH, AND WE NEED TO 527 00:13:57,671 --> 00:13:58,505 HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH 528 00:13:58,505 --> 00:13:59,506 REPUBLICANS BECAUSE WE NEED 529 00:13:59,506 --> 00:14:00,807 TO GET OUR OWN PARTY TO 530 00:14:00,807 --> 00:14:02,208 UNDERSTAND THAT UNLESS WE 531 00:14:02,208 --> 00:14:05,011 ARE AWARE OF THE REALITIES, 532 00:14:05,011 --> 00:14:05,945 THERE'S NO POINT IN GOING 533 00:14:05,945 --> 00:14:07,847 OVER HERE AND CREATING SOME 534 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:09,749 FANCY CLEVER PROGRAM WHICH 535 00:14:09,749 --> 00:14:10,750 IS DESTROYED THE FIRST TIME 536 00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:11,951 YOU SEE A REPUBLICAN DEBATE 537 00:14:11,951 --> 00:14:12,952 OR DESTROYED THE FIRST TIME 538 00:14:12,952 --> 00:14:14,087 YOU SEE THE HOUSE AND SENATE 539 00:14:14,087 --> 00:14:14,988 REPUBLICANS DO SOMETHING. 540 00:14:14,988 --> 00:14:15,488 >> RIGHT. 541 00:14:15,488 --> 00:14:17,190 >> BY THE WAY, I THINK MOST 542 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:17,891 GOVERNORS WHO ARE 543 00:14:17,891 --> 00:14:19,292 PRACTICAL -- WE HAVE 30 544 00:14:19,292 --> 00:14:20,293 REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS. 545 00:14:20,293 --> 00:14:21,394 I THINK MOST OF THEM WANT 546 00:14:21,394 --> 00:14:22,595 COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS. 547 00:14:22,595 --> 00:14:23,596 >> AND YOU'RE EXPECTING THAT 548 00:14:23,596 --> 00:14:24,831 THE REPUBLICANS WILL FIGURE 549 00:14:24,831 --> 00:14:26,533 OUT A WAY TO WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS. 550 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:27,534 IN FACT, SENATOR GRAHAM AND 551 00:14:27,534 --> 00:14:28,835 SENATOR SHUMER ARE ALREADY 552 00:14:28,835 --> 00:14:29,936 WORKING TOGETHER ON SOME 553 00:14:29,936 --> 00:14:31,237 KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE 554 00:14:31,237 --> 00:14:32,238 IMMIGRATION REFORM. 555 00:14:32,238 --> 00:14:32,906 YOU THINK THAT THE QUESTION 556 00:14:32,906 --> 00:14:33,640 OF IMMIGRATION REFORM WILL 557 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,309 BE RESOLVED REASONABLY SOON -- 558 00:14:36,309 --> 00:14:36,810 >> I DON'T KNOW. 559 00:14:36,810 --> 00:14:37,811 IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER THE 560 00:14:37,811 --> 00:14:39,713 PRESIDENT 'S TO KEEP IT AS AN ISSUE. 561 00:14:39,713 --> 00:14:40,313 >> DO YOU THINK THE 562 00:14:40,313 --> 00:14:41,314 PRESIDENT WOULD KEEP IT AS 563 00:14:41,314 --> 00:14:42,716 AN ISSUE RATHER THAN KEEP IT 564 00:14:42,716 --> 00:14:43,350 AS POLICY? 565 00:14:43,350 --> 00:14:44,484 >> I SAID I DON'T KNOW. 566 00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:45,385 BUT I THINK THERE WILL BE A 567 00:14:45,385 --> 00:14:46,786 VERY SUBSTANTIAL EFFORT BY 568 00:14:46,786 --> 00:14:48,788 REPUBLICANS TO GET TO AN 569 00:14:48,788 --> 00:14:50,990 IMMIGRATION REFORM THAT IS 570 00:14:50,990 --> 00:14:52,092 EFFECTIVE AND PRACTICAL THAT 571 00:14:52,092 --> 00:14:53,693 DOES INCLUDE BORDER CONTROL, 572 00:14:53,693 --> 00:14:55,328 BUT THAT ALSO RECOGNIZES 573 00:14:55,328 --> 00:14:57,030 THAT YOU'VE GOT TO FIND SOME 574 00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:59,532 METHOD FOR RESIDENCY IF NOT 575 00:14:59,532 --> 00:15:01,234 FOR THE CITY 17 SHIP. 576 00:15:01,234 --> 00:15:02,469 >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT 577 00:15:02,469 --> 00:15:04,270 HEALTH CARE, ANOTHER ISSUE 578 00:15:04,270 --> 00:15:06,072 THAT CAME UP AT VARIOUS 579 00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:07,173 POINTS OF THIS CAMPAIGN. 580 00:15:07,173 --> 00:15:07,974 WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT HEALTH 581 00:15:07,974 --> 00:15:09,075 CARE AS MUCH AS SOME OF US 582 00:15:09,075 --> 00:15:09,876 EXPECTED TO. 583 00:15:09,876 --> 00:15:10,677 YOU CERTAINLY TALKED ABOUT 584 00:15:10,677 --> 00:15:12,779 IT A LOT. 585 00:15:12,779 --> 00:15:14,014 WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT A 586 00:15:14,014 --> 00:15:16,349 REELECTED, WE HAVE THE 587 00:15:16,349 --> 00:15:17,450 ROBERTS COURT AFFIRMING THE 588 00:15:17,450 --> 00:15:18,451 CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE 589 00:15:18,451 --> 00:15:19,285 HEALTH CARE ACT. 590 00:15:19,285 --> 00:15:20,453 SO ONWARD WE GO. 591 00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:21,388 IF YOU WERE ADVISING YOUR 592 00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:22,288 PARTY, WHAT SHOULD THE 593 00:15:22,288 --> 00:15:23,390 PARTY'S POSITION IN CONGRESS 594 00:15:23,390 --> 00:15:24,591 BE AND HOW SHOULD GOVERNORS 595 00:15:24,591 --> 00:15:26,893 REGARD THE NEW WORLD THAT WE 596 00:15:26,893 --> 00:15:27,761 SEE AFTER THE ELECTION? 597 00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:28,795 >> WELL, I THINK THERE ARE 598 00:15:28,795 --> 00:15:32,332 THREE TRACKS ON HEALTH CARE, 599 00:15:32,332 --> 00:15:32,932 STARTING WITH THE 600 00:15:32,932 --> 00:15:33,833 RECOGNITION THAT OBAMA CARE 601 00:15:33,833 --> 00:15:34,734 IS NOT GOING TO GET 602 00:15:34,734 --> 00:15:35,535 REPEALED. 603 00:15:35,535 --> 00:15:36,803 THEY GAINED SEATS IN THE 604 00:15:36,803 --> 00:15:38,605 SENATE AND OBAMA IS STILL 605 00:15:38,605 --> 00:15:39,406 PRESIDENT. 606 00:15:39,406 --> 00:15:40,507 >> CAN'T DO IT. 607 00:15:40,507 --> 00:15:41,708 >> IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 608 00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:43,309 SO IN THE CONTEXT OF OBAMA 609 00:15:43,309 --> 00:15:47,814 CARE IMPLEMENTATION, I THINK 610 00:15:47,814 --> 00:15:49,215 THERE ARE THREE ZONES TO 611 00:15:49,215 --> 00:15:49,616 LOOK AT. 612 00:15:49,616 --> 00:15:50,950 THE FIRST IS TO HOLD 613 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:52,352 HEARINGS ON THE UNINTENDED 614 00:15:52,352 --> 00:15:52,652 CONSEQUENCES. 615 00:15:52,652 --> 00:15:53,753 THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES 616 00:15:53,753 --> 00:15:54,754 THAT ARE GOING TO GO TO PART 617 00:15:54,754 --> 00:15:56,856 TIME EMPLOYMENT IN ORDER TO 618 00:15:56,856 --> 00:15:58,858 AVOID THE MANDATES IS GOING 619 00:15:58,858 --> 00:16:01,961 TO BE JUST BREATHTAKING. 620 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:02,762 THE PROBLEM THE STATES ARE 621 00:16:02,762 --> 00:16:03,963 GOING TO RUN INTO. 622 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:05,365 THERE WILL BE A WHOLE ZONE 623 00:16:05,365 --> 00:16:06,399 HERE OF WHAT DOES 624 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:07,600 APPLICATION MEAN? 625 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:08,601 MOVING A BILL TO ELIMINATE 626 00:16:08,601 --> 00:16:10,303 THE CONCEPT OF A DEATH 627 00:16:10,303 --> 00:16:11,237 COMMITTEE AND TO REALLY 628 00:16:11,237 --> 00:16:12,539 TRULY SHIFT THOSE DECISIONS 629 00:16:12,539 --> 00:16:14,741 BACK TO THE DOCTORS WOULD BE 630 00:16:14,741 --> 00:16:16,743 IN FACT A POWERFUL EXAMPLE. 631 00:16:16,743 --> 00:16:19,245 SO YOU COULD DO MODIFICATIONS. 632 00:16:19,245 --> 00:16:21,047 SECOND, I THINK, IS STARTING 633 00:16:21,047 --> 00:16:22,248 WITH THE GOVERNORS HOW DO 634 00:16:22,248 --> 00:16:24,351 YOU MAXIMIZE FREEDOM AND HOW 635 00:16:24,351 --> 00:16:25,852 DO YOU MAXIMIZE DOCTORS 636 00:16:25,852 --> 00:16:28,188 CONTINUING TO PRACTICE MEDICINE? 637 00:16:28,188 --> 00:16:29,389 THE NUMBER OF DOCTORS WHO 638 00:16:29,389 --> 00:16:30,690 NOW SAY TO ME THEY'RE GOING 639 00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:32,392 TO QUIT IS REALLY A PROBLEM. 640 00:16:32,392 --> 00:16:34,894 AND YOU COULD HAVE A VERY 641 00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:36,629 BIG DOCTOR SHORTAGE IN THE 642 00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:38,331 NOT DISTANT FUTURE. 643 00:16:38,331 --> 00:16:39,432 THE THIRD THING, WHERE I 644 00:16:39,432 --> 00:16:40,834 FAILED AND I REALLY FEEL 645 00:16:40,834 --> 00:16:43,370 BADLY ABOUT THIS, ONE OF THE 646 00:16:43,370 --> 00:16:44,704 REASON I'M RUNNING IS THAT 647 00:16:44,704 --> 00:16:46,106 THERE ARE ENORMOUS 648 00:16:46,106 --> 00:16:47,707 OPPORTUNITIES FOR 649 00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:49,209 DRAMATICALLY IMPROVING THE 650 00:16:49,209 --> 00:16:49,909 HEALTH SYSTEM. 651 00:16:49,909 --> 00:16:51,111 I'LL GIVE YOU THREE EXAMPLES. 652 00:16:51,111 --> 00:16:52,812 >> YOU SAID I AM RUNNING -- 653 00:16:52,812 --> 00:16:54,714 >> NO, I WAS RUNNING. 654 00:16:54,714 --> 00:16:56,416 >> I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER YOU 655 00:16:56,416 --> 00:16:57,550 ACTUALLY MADE NEWS HERE. 656 00:16:57,550 --> 00:16:58,551 [LAUGHTER] 657 00:16:58,551 --> 00:16:59,953 >> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 658 00:16:59,953 --> 00:17:00,653 >> NO. 659 00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:02,155 >> THE LAST THING I WANT ON 660 00:17:02,155 --> 00:17:02,989 THE NEWS TONIGHT. 661 00:17:02,989 --> 00:17:04,991 [LAUGHTER] 662 00:17:04,991 --> 00:17:06,893 BUT THE -- I WANT TO GET 663 00:17:06,893 --> 00:17:08,495 ACROSS THE NOTION THAT THERE 664 00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:10,697 ARE THESE MARVELOUS FUTURES 665 00:17:10,697 --> 00:17:12,399 AND THAT YOU DON'T -- I 666 00:17:12,399 --> 00:17:14,401 COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO 667 00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:15,502 PENETRATE THE POLITICAL 668 00:17:15,502 --> 00:17:17,404 PRESS WHICH FINDS IT HARD TO 669 00:17:17,404 --> 00:17:19,539 COVER OPTIMISTIC, POSITIVE THINGS. 670 00:17:19,539 --> 00:17:20,840 BUT THERE WERE THREE AREAS. 671 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,942 ONE IS REGENERATIVE MEDICINE 672 00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:24,144 WHERE YOU'RE JUST GOING TO 673 00:17:24,144 --> 00:17:27,847 SEE AN EXPLOSIVE 674 00:17:27,847 --> 00:17:28,848 OPPORTUNITY, FOR EXAMPLE, TO 675 00:17:28,848 --> 00:17:30,550 TAKE YOUR SKIN, YOUR TISSUES 676 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:32,552 TO GROW YOUR KIDNEY, TO HAVE 677 00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:34,154 A TRANSPLANT WHERE YOU HAVE 678 00:17:34,154 --> 00:17:35,588 NO REJECTION BECAUSE WE'RE 679 00:17:35,588 --> 00:17:36,923 PUTTING YOU BACK IN YOU. 680 00:17:36,923 --> 00:17:37,724 THE BREAKTHROUGHS THAT ARE 681 00:17:37,724 --> 00:17:38,925 HAPPENING IN THAT ZONE ARE 682 00:17:38,925 --> 00:17:40,627 JUST BREATHTAKING AND IT 683 00:17:40,627 --> 00:17:41,728 REQUIRES FOOD AND DRUG 684 00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:43,396 ADMINISTRATION REFORM AND A 685 00:17:43,396 --> 00:17:45,498 FEW OTHER STEPS TO GET IT TO 686 00:17:45,498 --> 00:17:47,000 ACCELERATE, BUT YOU COULD 687 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,201 SEE A REVOLUTION IN THE NEXT 688 00:17:48,201 --> 00:17:49,402 20 YEARS IN HOW WE TAKE CARE 689 00:17:49,402 --> 00:17:51,705 OF OURSELVES THAT EXTENDS 690 00:17:51,705 --> 00:17:52,939 OUR LIVES, EXTENDS OUR 691 00:17:52,939 --> 00:17:53,840 INDEPENDENT LIVING, EXTENDS 692 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,875 OUR HEALTH AND LOWERS COST. 693 00:17:55,875 --> 00:17:56,976 THE SECOND AREA IS BRAIN 694 00:17:56,976 --> 00:17:58,578 RESEARCH, WHICH GETS YOU 695 00:17:58,578 --> 00:18:01,581 INTO ALZHEIMER'S, AUTISM, 696 00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:03,683 PARKINSON'S, MENTAL HEALTH, 697 00:18:03,683 --> 00:18:05,285 ENORMOUS OPPORTUNITIES. 698 00:18:05,285 --> 00:18:07,587 IN ALZHEIMER'S ALONE WE WILL 699 00:18:07,587 --> 00:18:09,322 SPEND $20 TRILLION BETWEEN 700 00:18:09,322 --> 00:18:13,026 NOW AND 2050, 20 TRILLION. 701 00:18:13,026 --> 00:18:18,732 ONE AND A HALF FEDERAL DEBTS. 702 00:18:18,732 --> 00:18:19,733 SO YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 703 00:18:19,733 --> 00:18:20,433 HUGE OPPORTUNITIES. 704 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:21,534 THE FOOD AND DRUG 705 00:18:21,534 --> 00:18:22,502 ADMINISTRATION IS VERY BADLY 706 00:18:22,502 --> 00:18:24,204 DESIGNED TO DEAL WITH IT. 707 00:18:24,204 --> 00:18:26,339 THE THIRD IS IN TERMS OF 708 00:18:26,339 --> 00:18:27,040 INFORMATION SYSTEMS. 709 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,341 IF YOU HAD AN AMERICAN 710 00:18:28,341 --> 00:18:30,643 EXPRESS VISA OR MASTERCARD 711 00:18:30,643 --> 00:18:32,278 MODEL OF ANTI-FRAUD EXPERT 712 00:18:32,278 --> 00:18:34,080 SYSTEMS YOU SAVE BETWEEN 60 713 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,685 AND $110 BILLION IN MEDICARE 714 00:18:38,685 --> 00:18:40,987 AND MEDICAID FRAUD, A YEAR, ANNUALLY. 715 00:18:40,987 --> 00:18:42,889 IT'S A TRILLION DOLLARS OVER A DECADE. 716 00:18:42,889 --> 00:18:44,724 SO I THINK YOU COULD SEE A 717 00:18:44,724 --> 00:18:46,726 POSITIVE MODERNIZATION OF 718 00:18:46,726 --> 00:18:47,961 THE HEALTH SYSTEM EVEN 719 00:18:47,961 --> 00:18:49,262 WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF 720 00:18:49,262 --> 00:18:49,863 OBAMA CARE. 721 00:18:49,863 --> 00:18:51,664 >> WHO IS OPPOSED TO IT? 722 00:18:51,664 --> 00:18:53,867 >> INERTIA. 723 00:18:53,867 --> 00:18:54,868 IT'S HARD TO LEARN. 724 00:18:54,868 --> 00:18:55,669 IT'S COMPLICATED. 725 00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:56,670 THE CONGRESS DOESN'T 726 00:18:56,670 --> 00:18:57,370 UNDERSTAND IT. 727 00:18:57,370 --> 00:18:58,471 >> SO IT'S NOT PARTISAN. 728 00:18:58,471 --> 00:19:00,473 >> IT'S NOT PARTISAN. NO. 729 00:19:00,473 --> 00:19:02,108 I HAD AS MUCH TROUBLE 730 00:19:02,108 --> 00:19:02,809 CONVINCING THE BUSH 731 00:19:02,809 --> 00:19:03,510 ADMINISTRATION AS I DID 732 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:04,811 CONVINCING THE OBAMA 733 00:19:04,811 --> 00:19:04,911 ADMINISTRATION. 734 00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:06,713 BUT THE BIPARTISAN 735 00:19:06,713 --> 00:19:08,648 UNWILLINGNESS TO THINK ABOUT 736 00:19:08,648 --> 00:19:09,349 NEW IDEAS. 737 00:19:09,349 --> 00:19:11,518 >> SPEAKING OF PARTISANSHIP, 738 00:19:11,518 --> 00:19:12,352 I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE 739 00:19:12,352 --> 00:19:14,254 ASPECT OF THE NEW MEMBERS OF 740 00:19:14,254 --> 00:19:15,155 CONGRESS OUGHT TO BE TOWARDS 741 00:19:15,155 --> 00:19:15,655 ONE ANOTHER. 742 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:17,257 WE HEAR ABOUT THE TOXICITY 743 00:19:17,257 --> 00:19:18,658 OF POLITICS AND HOW WE'RE 744 00:19:18,658 --> 00:19:21,061 MORE POLARIZED THAN EVER. 745 00:19:21,061 --> 00:19:22,896 IS THERE A WAY TO CRACK THAT? 746 00:19:22,896 --> 00:19:23,997 WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK INTO 747 00:19:23,997 --> 00:19:25,198 ANOTHER SESSION OF CONGRESS. 748 00:19:25,198 --> 00:19:26,900 WE HAVE A REPUBLICAN LED 749 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:29,302 HOUSE, WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC 750 00:19:29,302 --> 00:19:30,904 SENATE, SLIGHTLY LARGER 751 00:19:30,904 --> 00:19:33,106 MARGIN, BUT EFFECTIVELY THE 752 00:19:33,106 --> 00:19:33,606 SAME AS BEFORE. 753 00:19:33,606 --> 00:19:35,208 WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT. 754 00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:36,543 HOW DO WE NOT REPEAT THE 755 00:19:36,543 --> 00:19:38,978 GRIDLOCK AND TOXICITY OF THE 756 00:19:38,978 --> 00:19:39,813 LAST FOUR YEARS? 757 00:19:39,813 --> 00:19:40,947 >> I THINK FIRST OF ALL, I 758 00:19:40,947 --> 00:19:42,349 WOULD ENCOURAGE -- I CAN'T 759 00:19:42,349 --> 00:19:43,149 SPEAK FOR THE SENATE BECAUSE 760 00:19:43,149 --> 00:19:44,951 I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT 761 00:19:44,951 --> 00:19:46,753 HARRY REID WOULD BE LIKE. 762 00:19:46,753 --> 00:19:47,654 BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE 763 00:19:47,654 --> 00:19:49,255 SPEAKER BOEHNER TO FIND 764 00:19:49,255 --> 00:19:50,357 BILLS THAT THE DEMOCRATS 765 00:19:50,357 --> 00:19:51,658 INTRODUCED THAT ARE GOOD, 766 00:19:51,658 --> 00:19:53,360 SMALL IDEAS AND BRING THEM UP. 767 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:56,296 YOU CAN -- I TRIED LAST YEAR 768 00:19:56,296 --> 00:19:57,797 AND FAILED TO GET THE HOUSE 769 00:19:57,797 --> 00:20:00,000 REPUBLICANS TO PASS A BILL 770 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,201 THAT HAD BEEN INTRODUCED BY 771 00:20:01,201 --> 00:20:02,902 TWO DEMOCRATIC SENATORS THAT 772 00:20:02,902 --> 00:20:05,605 WOULD -- BY WEBB AND WARNER 773 00:20:05,605 --> 00:20:07,340 OF VIRGINIA TO ALLOW 774 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:08,942 DRILLING OFFSHORE FOR VIRGINIA. 775 00:20:08,942 --> 00:20:10,143 HERE YOU HAD TWO DEMOCRATIC 776 00:20:10,143 --> 00:20:11,044 SENATORS DOING SOMETHING 777 00:20:11,044 --> 00:20:13,646 REPUBLICANS BELIEVE IN IDEOLOGICALLY. 778 00:20:13,646 --> 00:20:14,981 IF THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAD 779 00:20:14,981 --> 00:20:16,282 PASSED IT, SENT IT TO THE 780 00:20:16,282 --> 00:20:17,384 SENATE AND SAID TO HARRY 781 00:20:17,384 --> 00:20:18,618 REID, HEY, WE'RE PASSING 782 00:20:18,618 --> 00:20:20,820 YOUR TWO DEMOCRATIC 783 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:23,123 SENATORS' BILL, DON'T YOU 784 00:20:23,123 --> 00:20:24,424 THINK YOU OUGHT TO BRING UP 785 00:20:24,424 --> 00:20:25,725 THEIR TWO DEMOCRATIC 786 00:20:25,725 --> 00:20:26,626 SENATOR'S BILL. 787 00:20:26,626 --> 00:20:28,028 PRETTY HARD TO BE PARTISAN. 788 00:20:28,028 --> 00:20:30,163 >> WHY IS THAT -- YOU'VE BEEN SPEAKER? 789 00:20:30,163 --> 00:20:30,964 YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO 790 00:20:30,964 --> 00:20:31,965 BE SPEAKER AND YOU KNOW WHAT 791 00:20:31,965 --> 00:20:33,700 THE MINDSET CAN BE IN A 792 00:20:33,700 --> 00:20:34,901 HOUSE WITH A LOT OF 793 00:20:34,901 --> 00:20:36,736 DIFFICULT TO HERD FOLKS, 794 00:20:36,736 --> 00:20:37,437 WHICH WAS SOMETHING YOU 795 00:20:37,437 --> 00:20:38,538 EXPERIENCED PROBABLY AFTER 796 00:20:38,538 --> 00:20:39,839 THE CONTRACT WITH AMERICA 797 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:41,641 PERIOD IN 94. 798 00:20:41,641 --> 00:20:42,842 A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE CAME IN, 799 00:20:42,842 --> 00:20:43,643 THEY HAD IDEAS. 800 00:20:43,643 --> 00:20:44,744 SO IS THE SPEAKER JUST 801 00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:45,945 FAILING TO LIVE UP TO HIS 802 00:20:45,945 --> 00:20:46,746 RESPONSIBILITIES AS SPEAKER 803 00:20:46,746 --> 00:20:48,481 AND NOT DOING THIS? 804 00:20:48,481 --> 00:20:49,783 >> NO, NO. 805 00:20:49,783 --> 00:20:52,485 MOST POLITICIANS AREN'T 806 00:20:52,485 --> 00:20:54,654 GIGANTIC RISK TAKERS. 807 00:20:54,654 --> 00:20:57,657 I CAME OUT OF IT -- IF I CAN 808 00:20:57,657 --> 00:20:58,858 USE A FOOTBALL ANALOGY. 809 00:20:58,858 --> 00:20:59,959 I CAME OUT OF A BACKGROUND 810 00:20:59,959 --> 00:21:01,061 BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN IN THE 811 00:21:01,061 --> 00:21:02,262 MINORITY SO LONG, THAT I WAS 812 00:21:02,262 --> 00:21:03,697 LIKE A ROLLOUT QUARTERBACK. 813 00:21:03,697 --> 00:21:06,599 I WAS GOING TO TRY TO THROW 814 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:07,500 DEEP OVER PLAY. 815 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:08,435 I WOULD DO EVERYTHING I 816 00:21:08,435 --> 00:21:10,403 COULD TO KEEP THE BALL MOVING. 817 00:21:10,403 --> 00:21:11,738 I WAS GOING TO TAKE RISKS. 818 00:21:11,738 --> 00:21:13,940 AND SO IT'S NATIONAL FOR ME 819 00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:17,744 TO SAY WHAT CAN I PUT TOGETHER? 820 00:21:17,744 --> 00:21:18,745 IT'S NOT NATURAL. 821 00:21:18,745 --> 00:21:20,447 >> THAT MAY NOT BE HIS THING. 822 00:21:20,447 --> 00:21:23,216 >> MOST POLITICIANS ARE RISK AVOIDING. 823 00:21:23,216 --> 00:21:27,721 AND -- BECAUSE AS I PROVED, 824 00:21:27,721 --> 00:21:28,922 I ONLY LASTED FOR FOUR YEARS 825 00:21:28,922 --> 00:21:30,123 AS SPEAKER IN PART BECAUSE I 826 00:21:30,123 --> 00:21:33,059 WORE OUT MY MEMBERS. 827 00:21:33,059 --> 00:21:34,561 IT'S HARD WORK AND ITS 828 00:21:34,561 --> 00:21:35,261 CONTROVERSIAL AND SOMETIMES 829 00:21:35,261 --> 00:21:37,397 AS YOU SAY, INTERCEPTED. 830 00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:39,099 AND I THINK PARTLY MY 831 00:21:39,099 --> 00:21:40,500 MEMBERS JUST BURNED OUT. 832 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:42,535 THEY THOUGHT THIS IS A LOT OF TURMOIL. 833 00:21:42,535 --> 00:21:44,938 WELL, YOU PASS WELFARE 834 00:21:44,938 --> 00:21:45,839 REFORM, YOU BALANCE THE 835 00:21:45,839 --> 00:21:47,240 BUDGET FOR FOUR YEARS, IT'S 836 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,141 A LOT OF TURMOIL. 837 00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:49,943 >> SO I GUESS JOHN BOEHNER 838 00:21:49,943 --> 00:21:51,111 WOULD BE SPEAKER AGAIN 839 00:21:51,111 --> 00:21:52,645 ALTHOUGH THERE WAS ONE VOTE FOR YOU. 840 00:21:52,645 --> 00:21:53,646 DID YOU SEE THAT? 841 00:21:53,646 --> 00:21:57,751 REPRESENTATIVE LARRY GOMERT 842 00:21:57,751 --> 00:21:59,386 WHO OFTEN FLIES BY HIS OWN 843 00:21:59,386 --> 00:22:00,387 SET OF COORDINATES. 844 00:22:00,387 --> 00:22:01,388 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU 845 00:22:01,388 --> 00:22:02,389 DIDN'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER 846 00:22:02,389 --> 00:22:03,289 OF THE HOUSE TO BE SPEAKER. 847 00:22:03,289 --> 00:22:04,190 [LAUGHTER] 848 00:22:04,190 --> 00:22:05,191 SO YOU GOT ONE VOTE. 849 00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:06,893 >> WHICH MAKES ME A FOOTNOTE 850 00:22:06,893 --> 00:22:08,795 IN SOME UNUSUAL HISTORY OF 851 00:22:08,795 --> 00:22:09,496 THE HOUSE. 852 00:22:09,496 --> 00:22:09,896 [LAUGHTER] 853 00:22:09,896 --> 00:22:11,898 >> HOW SHERMANESQUE WOULD 854 00:22:11,898 --> 00:22:13,299 YOUR RESPONSE HAD BEEN IF 855 00:22:13,299 --> 00:22:14,534 THERE HAD BEEN A MOVE TO 856 00:22:14,534 --> 00:22:15,635 HAVE YOU COME BACK IN AND 857 00:22:15,635 --> 00:22:16,336 LEAD THEM? 858 00:22:16,336 --> 00:22:17,337 I WILL NOT SERVE. 859 00:22:17,337 --> 00:22:18,672 DON'T NOMINATE. 860 00:22:18,672 --> 00:22:19,673 WHAT WOULD HAVE YOU DONE? 861 00:22:19,673 --> 00:22:21,274 >> IF THERE HAD BEEN A MOVE 862 00:22:21,274 --> 00:22:23,977 I WOULD SUGGEST IT WAS IMPRACTICAL. 863 00:22:23,977 --> 00:22:25,078 IF THERE WAS A MAJORITY VOTE 864 00:22:25,078 --> 00:22:26,179 I WOULD HAVE BEEN CONFUSED. 865 00:22:26,179 --> 00:22:28,782 >> AND YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A NEW JOB. 866 00:22:28,782 --> 00:22:30,583 WE HAVE THREE MINUTES LEFT. 867 00:22:30,583 --> 00:22:31,384 WHAT DO YOU DO NOW? 868 00:22:31,384 --> 00:22:32,919 IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE YOU 869 00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:35,021 GIVEN THE SCHEDULE YOU KEEP 870 00:22:35,021 --> 00:22:36,356 UP, THE BOOKS YOU WRITE, THE 871 00:22:36,356 --> 00:22:38,758 SPEECHES, IT SEEMS TO BE COMPULSIVE, 872 00:22:38,758 --> 00:22:41,161 THE COMPULSIVENESS OF YOUR 873 00:22:41,161 --> 00:22:42,162 THINKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES 874 00:22:42,162 --> 00:22:46,466 AND YOUR PROS THEY LATIZING 875 00:22:46,466 --> 00:22:47,567 ON VARIOUS THINGS THAT YOU 876 00:22:47,567 --> 00:22:48,868 BELIEVE IN. 877 00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:49,903 I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE DONE. 878 00:22:49,903 --> 00:22:52,205 >> WHY WOULD YOU DO? 879 00:22:52,205 --> 00:22:53,306 >> WELL, I'M ASKING. 880 00:22:53,306 --> 00:22:54,407 ARE YOU DONE? 881 00:22:54,407 --> 00:22:56,609 WILL YOU RUN FOR OFFICE AGAIN? 882 00:22:56,609 --> 00:22:58,011 >> I DON'T KNOW AM I'M A CITIZEN. 883 00:22:58,011 --> 00:22:58,745 I'M VERY FORTUNATE. 884 00:22:58,745 --> 00:23:00,747 I GET TO GO BE A CITIZEN ALL 885 00:23:00,747 --> 00:23:01,348 DAY EVERYDAY. 886 00:23:01,348 --> 00:23:02,549 I HAD HUGE FUN YESTERDAY AT 887 00:23:02,549 --> 00:23:03,950 THE UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS 888 00:23:03,950 --> 00:23:05,952 NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUM. 889 00:23:05,952 --> 00:23:07,554 I HAD GREAT FUN TODAY WITH 890 00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:13,827 TIM ROWELL AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS. 891 00:23:13,827 --> 00:23:15,528 >> BUT YOU LIKED BEING IN 892 00:23:15,528 --> 00:23:16,930 OFFICE AND LIKED BEING IN A 893 00:23:16,930 --> 00:23:18,331 POSITION OF ELECTIVE OFFICE 894 00:23:18,331 --> 00:23:20,133 THAT GAVE YOU A PLATFORM 895 00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:21,501 FROM WHICH TO SPEAK AND DO. 896 00:23:21,501 --> 00:23:23,136 >> BUT I HAD 11 YEARS 897 00:23:23,136 --> 00:23:23,870 BETWEEN LEAVING THE 898 00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:25,271 SPEAKERSHIP AND RUNNING FOR 899 00:23:25,271 --> 00:23:25,972 PRESIDENT AND I WAS REALLY 900 00:23:25,972 --> 00:23:27,073 BUSY FOR ALL 11 YEARS. 901 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:28,375 >> SO YOU DON'T INTEND TO 902 00:23:28,375 --> 00:23:29,209 RUN FOR PRESIDENT AGAIN? 903 00:23:29,209 --> 00:23:30,910 >> IT'S NOT MY INTENTION, 904 00:23:30,910 --> 00:23:32,112 BUT I'M NOT RULING IT O. 905 00:23:32,112 --> 00:23:33,013 >> WOULD YOU RUN FOR 906 00:23:33,013 --> 00:23:34,614 ANYTHING ELSE POTENTIALLY? 907 00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:35,215 >> NO. 908 00:23:35,215 --> 00:23:35,815 I DON'T THINK SO. 909 00:23:35,815 --> 00:23:37,217 >> ON SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO 910 00:23:37,217 --> 00:23:39,119 ENJOY YOU ON THE TRAIL. 911 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,153 >> I'LL TRY TO LEARN AND 912 00:23:40,153 --> 00:23:41,554 I'LL TRY TO THINK AND I'M 913 00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:42,756 GOING TO TRY TO HAVE IDEAS. 914 00:23:42,756 --> 00:23:44,391 >> WOULD YOU EVER ENTERTAIN 915 00:23:44,391 --> 00:23:45,992 BEING BROUGHT INTO THE 916 00:23:45,992 --> 00:23:46,693 ADMINISTRATION? 917 00:23:46,693 --> 00:23:47,594 THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION 918 00:23:47,594 --> 00:23:48,795 THAT MAYBE THE PRESIDENT 919 00:23:48,795 --> 00:23:49,996 SHOULD EXTEND AN OLIVE 920 00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:51,498 BRANCH TO MATTSSON MCHALE 921 00:23:51,498 --> 00:23:53,600 AND SAY WOMAN -- TO MITT 922 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,702 ROMNEY AND SAY COME BE 923 00:23:55,702 --> 00:23:57,203 TREASURY SECRETARY. 924 00:23:57,203 --> 00:23:58,738 BUT TO USE GOVERNOR ROMNEY 925 00:23:58,738 --> 00:24:00,140 OR USE A PROMINENT REPUBLICAN. 926 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:01,641 >> UNLESS THE PRESIDENT CAME 927 00:24:01,641 --> 00:24:02,776 AND SAID HE WANTED A 928 00:24:02,776 --> 00:24:05,078 TRILLION, SIX HUNDRED 929 00:24:05,078 --> 00:24:05,879 BILLION DOLLARS IN NEW 930 00:24:05,879 --> 00:24:07,180 TAXES, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN 931 00:24:07,180 --> 00:24:08,682 TURN TO GOVERNOR ROMNEY AND 932 00:24:08,682 --> 00:24:10,183 SAY HI, ESPECIALLY THE 933 00:24:10,183 --> 00:24:11,685 SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY. 934 00:24:11,685 --> 00:24:12,986 >> ALTHOUGH, LISTEN, BILL 935 00:24:12,986 --> 00:24:14,487 CRYSTAL AND GLEN HUBBARD AND 936 00:24:14,487 --> 00:24:15,488 A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH 937 00:24:15,488 --> 00:24:16,289 GOVERNOR ROMNEY DURING THE 938 00:24:16,289 --> 00:24:17,390 CAMPAIGN HAVE EXPRESSED A 939 00:24:17,390 --> 00:24:19,225 LOT MORE OPENNESS TO TAX 940 00:24:19,225 --> 00:24:20,527 INCREASES ON THE WEALTHY 941 00:24:20,527 --> 00:24:22,028 THAN THEY DID IN THE CAMPAIGN. 942 00:24:22,028 --> 00:24:23,430 >> BUT NONE OF THEM HOLD OFFICE. 943 00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:24,731 >> SO YOU THINK THAT THAT 944 00:24:24,731 --> 00:24:25,832 WOULD DISQUALIFY GOVERNOR 945 00:24:25,832 --> 00:24:26,833 ROMNEY IN SOME RESPECTS. 946 00:24:26,833 --> 00:24:29,936 >> I DON'T THINK HE HAS ANY 947 00:24:29,936 --> 00:24:32,372 INTEREST IN BETRAYING HIS 948 00:24:32,372 --> 00:24:35,175 CORE PRINCIPLES ON BEHALF OF BARACK OBAMA. 949 00:24:35,175 --> 00:24:36,309 >> BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT 950 00:24:36,309 --> 00:24:38,244 IT SEEMS LIKE DURING THE 951 00:24:38,244 --> 00:24:39,746 CAMPAIGN HE WOULD CHANGE HIS 952 00:24:39,746 --> 00:24:42,082 PRINCIPLES TO FIT THE MOMENT. 953 00:24:42,082 --> 00:24:42,982 DIDN'T HE? 954 00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:43,983 WASN'T THAT THE BIG 955 00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:44,884 CRITICISM THAT HE DIDN'T 956 00:24:44,884 --> 00:24:46,186 STAY WITH ONE SET OF IDEAS 957 00:24:46,186 --> 00:24:46,786 FOR VERY LONG? 958 00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:48,988 >> I THINK THAT HE CLEARLY 959 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:50,223 TRIMMED A LITTLE BIT, BUT I 960 00:24:50,223 --> 00:24:51,024 DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY -- 961 00:24:51,024 --> 00:24:51,925 [LAUGHTER] 962 00:24:51,925 --> 00:24:55,228 I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO -- 963 00:24:55,228 --> 00:24:56,963 YOU COULD SAY THE SAME THING 964 00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:57,464 ABOUT OBAMA. 965 00:24:57,464 --> 00:24:58,365 I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO 966 00:24:58,365 --> 00:24:59,165 SAY THAT HE SIGNIFICANTLY 967 00:24:59,165 --> 00:25:00,000 SHIFTED. 968 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,901 >> SO IF THE PRESIDENT SAID 969 00:25:01,901 --> 00:25:02,902 THE SECRETARY IS GOING TO 970 00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:04,704 RETIRE AND RETURN TO KANSAS, 971 00:25:04,704 --> 00:25:06,406 SPEAKER, WOULD YOU COME AND 972 00:25:06,406 --> 00:25:06,906 BE THE HEALTH AND HUMAN 973 00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:09,009 SERVICES SECRETARY, 974 00:25:09,009 --> 00:25:09,542 BIPARTISAN. 975 00:25:09,542 --> 00:25:11,444 >> AND HELP IMPLEMENT OBAMA CARE. 976 00:25:11,444 --> 00:25:12,545 >> HELP FIX IT. 977 00:25:12,545 --> 00:25:13,947 THINK OF IT AS HELP FIX IT. 978 00:25:13,947 --> 00:25:15,448 >> I WOULD SUGGEST AT THAT 979 00:25:15,448 --> 00:25:16,649 POINT THAT HE NEEDS TO 980 00:25:16,649 --> 00:25:17,751 REALLY SIT DOWN WITH HIS 981 00:25:17,751 --> 00:25:19,486 CLOSEST ADVISORS AND TALK 982 00:25:19,486 --> 00:25:22,188 ABOUT THE PRESSURES, THE 983 00:25:22,188 --> 00:25:23,189 DIFFICULTIES. 984 00:25:23,189 --> 00:25:24,190 >> FORTUNATELY MENTAL HEALTH 985 00:25:24,190 --> 00:25:25,992 IS COVERED UNDER OBAMA CARE. 986 00:25:25,992 --> 00:25:26,893 ACTUALLY, HE WOULD HAVE A 987 00:25:26,893 --> 00:25:27,894 WAY TO PAY FOR IT. 988 00:25:27,894 --> 00:25:28,595 SPEAKER, YOU'RE VERY 989 00:25:28,595 --> 00:25:30,230 GENEROUS WITH YOUR TIME. 990 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:31,231 CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK. 991 00:25:31,231 --> 00:25:32,332 THANK YOU FOR TALKING POLITICS. 992 00:25:32,332 --> 00:25:33,233 SPEAKER NEWT GINGRICH. 993 00:25:33,233 --> 00:25:34,134 THANKS VERY MUCH. 994 00:25:34,134 --> 00:25:36,970 [APPLAUSE] 995 00:25:36,970 --> 00:25:38,571 >> WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU 996 00:25:38,571 --> 00:25:39,472 JOIN US IN THE STUDIO. 997 00:25:39,472 --> 00:25:41,274 VISIT YOUR WEBSITE AT 998 00:25:41,274 --> 00:25:43,376 KLRU.ORG/OVERHEARD TO FIND 999 00:25:43,376 --> 00:25:45,412 INVITATIONS TO INTERVIEWS, Q 1000 00:25:45,412 --> 00:25:47,313 AND A'S WITH YOUR AUDIENCE 1001 00:25:47,313 --> 00:25:49,516 AND GUEST AND AN ARCHIVE OF 1002 00:25:49,516 --> 00:25:50,817 PAST EPISODES. 1003 00:25:50,817 --> 00:25:53,720 >> PART OF WHAT'S DISGUSTING 1004 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,422 ABOUT THE WAY THE SUPER PACS 1005 00:25:55,422 --> 00:25:56,423 HAVE OPERATED IS YOU GET 1006 00:25:56,423 --> 00:25:57,524 CONSULTANTS WHO COME IN WHO 1007 00:25:57,524 --> 00:25:58,425 HAVE NO INSTITUTIONAL 1008 00:25:58,425 --> 00:26:00,260 MEMORY, NO VESTED INTEREST. 1009 00:26:00,260 --> 00:26:01,361 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE 1010 00:26:01,361 --> 00:26:02,762 AROUND AFTER IT'S OVER. 1011 00:26:02,762 --> 00:26:03,963 THEY CAN RUN THE MOST 1012 00:26:03,963 --> 00:26:05,498 NEGATIVE, VICIOUS, NASTY AD 1013 00:26:05,498 --> 00:26:06,399 YOU CAN IMAGINE. 1014 00:26:06,399 --> 00:26:07,701 HALF THE ADS ABOUT ME WERE 1015 00:26:07,701 --> 00:26:10,904 JUST NOT TRUE. 1016 00:26:10,904 --> 00:26:18,712 >> FUNDING FOR OVERHEARD 1017 00:26:18,712 --> 00:26:19,713 WITH EVAN SMITH IS PROVIDED 1018 00:26:19,713 --> 00:26:22,349 IN PART BY HILLCO PARTNERS, 1019 00:26:22,349 --> 00:26:24,050 TEXAS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 1020 00:26:24,050 --> 00:26:25,452 CONSULTANCY AND ITS GLOBAL 1021 00:26:25,452 --> 00:26:26,453 HEALTH CARE CONSULTING 1022 00:26:26,453 --> 00:26:29,155 BUSINESS UNIT, HILLCO HEALTH. 1023 00:26:29,155 --> 00:26:30,156 AND BY THE MATTSSON MCHALE 1024 00:26:30,156 --> 00:26:31,758 FOUNDATION IN SUPPORT OF 1025 00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:33,059 PUBLIC TELEVISION. 1026 00:26:33,059 --> 00:26:36,696 AND ALSO BY MFI FOUNDATION, 1027 00:26:36,696 --> 00:26:38,031 IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF 1028 00:26:38,031 --> 00:26:39,132 LIFE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 1029 00:26:39,132 --> 00:26:40,734 AND ALSO BY THE ALICE 1030 00:26:40,734 --> 00:26:42,135 KLEBERG REYNOLDS FOUNDATION, 1031 00:26:42,135 --> 00:26:43,737 AND VIEWERS LIKE YOU. 1032 00:26:43,737 --> 00:27:09,529 THANK YOU. 1033 00:27:09,529 --> 00:27:10,930 >> NEXT TIME ON OVERHEARD... 1034 00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:12,432 >> I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO 1035 00:27:12,432 --> 00:27:14,067 OBAMA'S POLICIES, BUT I HAVE 1036 00:27:14,067 --> 00:27:15,468 GREAT RESPECT FOR HIS 1037 00:27:15,468 --> 00:27:16,569 LEADERSHIP AND THE FACT THAT 1038 00:27:16,569 --> 00:27:18,538 THEY PUT A TEAM TOGETHER 1039 00:27:18,538 --> 00:27:20,040 THAT RAN A CAMPAIGN. 1040 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,542 YOU HAVE BASICALLY AN 1041 00:27:22,542 --> 00:27:24,844 OBSOLETE REPUBLICAN 1042 00:27:24,844 --> 00:27:25,912 INSTITUTION COMPETING WITH A 1043 00:27:25,912 --> 00:27:27,113 MODERN DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTION. 1044 00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:29,049 MARGARET THATCHER ONCE SAID 1045 00:27:29,049 --> 00:27:30,050 THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALISM 1046 00:27:30,050 --> 00:27:31,184 IS IT RUNS OUT OF OTHER 1047 00:27:31,184 --> 00:27:32,285 PEOPLE'S MONEY TO SPEND. 1048 00:27:32,285 --> 00:27:34,187 AT SOME POINT PEOPLE WILL 1049 00:27:34,187 --> 00:27:36,222 LOOK UP AND SAY GIVE ME A 1050 00:27:36,222 --> 00:27:40,222 BETTER ALTERNATIVE.