WEBVTT 00:02.669 --> 00:03.036 >> FUNDING FOR OVERHEARD 00:03.036 --> 00:04.637 WITH EVAN SMITH IS PROVIDED 00:04.637 --> 00:07.741 IN PART BY THE MATSON MCHAIL 00:07.741 --> 00:09.342 FOUNDATION IN SUPPORT OF 00:09.342 --> 00:10.643 PUBLIC TELEVISION AND ALSO 00:10.643 --> 00:12.645 BY MFI FOUNDATION, IMPROVING 00:12.645 --> 00:13.646 THE QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN 00:13.646 --> 00:14.247 OUR COMMUNITY. 00:14.247 --> 00:16.049 AND FROM THE TEXAS BOARD OF 00:16.049 --> 00:18.351 LEGAL SPECIALIZATION, BOARD 00:18.351 --> 00:20.053 CERTIFIED ATTORNEYS IN YOUR 00:20.053 --> 00:21.287 COMMUNITY, EXPERIENCED, 00:21.287 --> 00:23.189 RESPECTED, AND TESTED. 00:23.189 --> 00:25.692 ALSO, BY HILLCO PARTNERS, 00:25.692 --> 00:26.693 TEXAS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 00:26.693 --> 00:29.596 CONSULTANCY AND ITS GLOBAL 00:29.596 --> 00:30.597 HEALTH CARE CONSULTING 00:30.597 --> 00:32.599 BUSINESS UNIT, HILLCO HEALTH 00:32.599 --> 00:35.301 AND BY THE ALICE KLEBERG 00:35.301 --> 00:37.804 REYNOLDS FOUNDATION AND 00:37.804 --> 00:39.105 VIEWERS LIKE YOU, THANK YOU. 00:39.105 --> 00:40.407 >> I AM EVAN SMITH, AN 00:40.407 --> 00:41.908 AUTHOR, ACTOR, DIRECTOR AND 00:41.908 --> 00:43.410 PRODUCER WHOSE FOUR DECADES 00:43.410 --> 00:45.512 OF CREATIVITY INCLUDES 00:45.512 --> 00:48.114 MIDNIGHT COWBOY, MOONRISE 00:48.114 --> 00:49.816 KINGDOM AND OTHER BOOK AND 00:49.816 --> 00:51.117 AUTHOR OF CHILDREN'S BOOKS, 00:51.117 --> 00:53.620 MOST RECENT WHICH THE 00:53.620 --> 00:54.621 CREATURE OF THE SEVENTH 00:54.621 --> 00:55.722 GRADE HAS BEEN PUBLISHED. 00:55.722 --> 01:01.761 HE IS BOB BALABAN. 01:01.761 --> 01:03.263 THIS IS OVERHEARD. 01:03.263 --> 01:04.464 >> MOST PEOPLE WANT THE SAME 01:04.464 --> 01:05.665 THING, THEY WANT A GOOD JOB. 01:05.665 --> 01:06.866 >> I REALIZED PEOPLE WEREN'T 01:06.866 --> 01:08.068 WRITING THINGS IN MY VOICE 01:08.068 --> 01:10.870 SO I REALIZE I HAD TO DO IT 01:10.870 --> 01:11.571 FOR MYSELF. 01:11.571 --> 01:13.273 >> AS A KID I LOVE THIS. 01:13.273 --> 01:15.375 >> WE ARE A BETTER COUNTRY 01:15.375 --> 01:16.576 THAN WE USED TO BE BUT WE 01:16.576 --> 01:17.677 HAVE MORE TO DO WITH IT AND 01:17.677 --> 01:18.878 WE NEED TO GET AT IT. 01:18.878 --> 01:19.979 >> I WANT TO DO THAT AND YOU 01:19.979 --> 01:21.114 GET THE BUZZ YOU GET FROM 01:21.114 --> 01:22.716 WORKING AT THE ABSOLUTE TOP 01:22.716 --> 01:24.117 DOLLAR A YEAR PLACE. 01:24.117 --> 01:30.724 >> BOB BALABAN, WELCOME. 01:30.724 --> 01:33.426 VERY NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE. 01:33.426 --> 01:34.627 >> HELLO. 01:34.627 --> 01:35.729 >> CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS. 01:35.729 --> 01:36.129 >> THANK YOU. 01:36.129 --> 01:38.231 >> YOU HAVE DONE A LOT MORE 01:38.231 --> 01:39.432 WRITING FOR KIDS THAN MOST 01:39.432 --> 01:40.033 PEOPLE I KNOW. 01:40.033 --> 01:40.934 >> I GUESS SO. 01:40.934 --> 01:43.036 >> THE MCGROWL SERIES WHICH 01:43.036 --> 01:44.337 IS A FUN SERIES OF BOOKS. 01:44.337 --> 01:45.638 >> THANK YOU. 01:45.638 --> 01:46.339 >> SEVEN, 8? 01:46.339 --> 01:46.740 >> SIX. 01:46.740 --> 01:47.841 >> A LOT OF THEM, NOT JUST 01:47.841 --> 01:48.141 ONE. 01:48.141 --> 01:50.443 >> I HAVE BURNED A LOT OF 01:50.443 --> 01:51.945 MIDNIGHT OIL AND 5 IN THE 01:51.945 --> 01:52.846 MORNING OIL. 01:52.846 --> 01:54.447 >> WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHY IN 01:54.447 --> 01:55.749 THE CONTEXT OF THIS AND THE 01:55.749 --> 01:57.150 CREATURE FROM THE SEVENTH 01:57.150 --> 01:58.451 GRADE WHICH IS JUST OUT, AND 01:58.451 --> 01:59.552 I IMAGINE IS THE FIRST OF 01:59.552 --> 01:59.953 FOUR. 01:59.953 --> 02:00.553 >> OF FOUR. 02:00.553 --> 02:02.055 >> YES, BECAUSE I HAVE DONE 02:02.055 --> 02:03.757 TWO AND I AM STARTING THREE. 02:03.757 --> 02:04.758 >> IT'S A REAL BOOK. 02:04.758 --> 02:05.859 PARENTS WHO HAVE KIDS WHO 02:05.859 --> 02:07.560 ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS 02:07.560 --> 02:08.862 BOOK, MIDDLE SCHOOL AGED, 02:08.862 --> 02:09.963 SAY, KIDS, MAYBE SOME 02:09.963 --> 02:11.464 YOUNGER, MAYBE SOME OLDER 02:11.464 --> 02:12.866 SHOULD KNOW IT IS NOT A BOOK 02:12.866 --> 02:14.367 WITH A LOT OF BIG PICTURES 02:14.367 --> 02:15.168 AND A FEW WORDS. 02:15.168 --> 02:16.169 IT IS A REAL BOOK. 02:16.169 --> 02:17.771 >> YES, THEY MAKE ME WRITE A 02:17.771 --> 02:18.772 LOT OF WORDS. 02:18.772 --> 02:19.873 >> IT IS A REAL STORY. 02:19.873 --> 02:20.807 >> I HAVE TO DO THAT. 02:20.807 --> 02:21.508 >> AND IT IS INTERESTING 02:21.508 --> 02:22.709 BECAUSE THE REASON I DID MY 02:22.709 --> 02:24.010 FIRST BOOK -- WELL, THE 02:24.010 --> 02:25.612 REASON IT WORKED OUT AND I 02:25.612 --> 02:26.713 THINK SOMEWHAT MY PURPOSE IN 02:26.713 --> 02:27.714 HAVING A BOOK WITH A 02:27.714 --> 02:30.116 DINOSAUR ON THE COVER CALLED 02:30.116 --> 02:31.317 THE CREATURE FROM THE 02:31.317 --> 02:33.720 SEVENTH GRADE, ASIDE FROM 02:33.720 --> 02:35.121 THEMATICALLY, IT IS LIKE 02:35.121 --> 02:35.422 ADOLESCENCE. 02:35.422 --> 02:37.123 YOU FEEL LIKE A CREATURE, 02:37.123 --> 02:38.725 BUT ALSO AS YOU PROBABLY 02:38.725 --> 02:40.527 KNOW, IT IS VERY HARD TO GET 02:40.527 --> 02:41.628 YOUNG BOYS IN THAT AGE 02:41.628 --> 02:43.530 BRACKET, ACTUALLY UP TO 15 02:43.530 --> 02:46.032 AND 16, ALTHOUGH HARRY 02:46.032 --> 02:48.234 POTTER HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC 02:48.234 --> 02:48.535 EXCEPTION. 02:48.535 --> 02:49.636 IT IS REALLY HARD TO GET 02:49.636 --> 02:50.337 PEOPLE TO READ. 02:50.337 --> 02:51.938 >> I HAVE A TWELVE YEAR OLD. 02:51.938 --> 02:52.739 >> DOES HE READ? 02:52.739 --> 02:53.840 >> YES, FOR INSTANCE, THIS 02:53.840 --> 02:54.441 BOOK HE READ. 02:54.441 --> 02:55.842 >> HOW CAN HE NOT READ IT? 02:55.842 --> 02:56.943 >> RIGHT, HOW CAN HE NOT 02:56.943 --> 02:58.645 READ IT BUT I AM THINKING OF 02:58.645 --> 03:01.648 VARIOUS SERIES MEETING THAT 03:01.648 --> 03:03.249 AGE, WHETHER IT IS NATE THE 03:03.249 --> 03:05.051 GREAT, OR A DIARY OF WIMPY 03:05.051 --> 03:06.753 KIDS ARE LARGELY PICTURE 03:06.753 --> 03:09.255 BOOKS WITH WORDS, NOT REALLY 03:09.255 --> 03:11.057 AND YOU THINK IT'S BECAUSE 03:11.057 --> 03:11.958 OF WHAT? 03:11.958 --> 03:13.059 >> I THINK BECAUSE IT MAKES 03:13.059 --> 03:14.761 IT LESS FRIGHTENING FOR BOYS 03:14.761 --> 03:17.263 WHO ARE SLIGHTLY AFRAID TO 03:17.263 --> 03:18.465 READ BECAUSE IF THEY READ 03:18.465 --> 03:20.066 THROUGH IT, IT WON'T BE 03:20.066 --> 03:21.801 CHALLENGING AND I THINK IT 03:21.801 --> 03:23.403 IS I GOT TO READ THE WHOLE 03:23.403 --> 03:24.504 BOOK, BUT IF YOU TOOK OUT 03:24.504 --> 03:26.806 THE PICTURES, IT IS ONLY 17 03:26.806 --> 03:27.307 PAGES. 03:27.307 --> 03:28.508 >> BUT I THINK THE THEME 03:28.508 --> 03:29.809 THAT GOES THROUGH THIS BOOK 03:29.809 --> 03:31.311 WILL BE FOR THESE KIDS 03:31.311 --> 03:33.847 WHETHER THEY REALIZE OR NOT, 03:33.847 --> 03:35.648 VERY FAMILIAR, CHARLIE DRINK 03:35.648 --> 03:37.150 WATER IS THE PROTAGONIST, 03:37.150 --> 03:38.351 DECATUR, ILLINOIS. 03:38.351 --> 03:39.753 >> MY OLD FAVORITE CITY. 03:39.753 --> 03:40.754 >> HE IS TO GO THROUGH 03:40.754 --> 03:42.155 PUBERTY, BUT INSTEAD OF 03:42.155 --> 03:44.057 PUBERTY, HE BEGINS TO SPROUT 03:44.057 --> 03:45.258 SCALES, GREEN SKIN AND HE 03:45.258 --> 03:45.859 TRANSFORMS. 03:45.859 --> 03:46.860 >> WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH MY 03:46.860 --> 03:47.460 EXPERIENCE. 03:47.460 --> 03:51.164 >> IS THAT RIGHT? 03:51.164 --> 03:52.265 YOU SEEMED TO HAVE GOTTEN 03:52.265 --> 03:53.667 OVER IT, THOUGH. 03:53.667 --> 03:55.268 >> I FELT LIKE IT. 03:55.268 --> 03:56.069 >> DO YOU ACTUALLY REMEMBER 03:56.069 --> 03:57.270 WHAT IT WAS LIKE -- AND MY 03:57.270 --> 03:58.872 PARENTS WEREN'T PRUDES OR 03:58.872 --> 03:59.673 ANYTHING BUT THEY DIDN'T 03:59.673 --> 04:01.174 TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT 04:01.174 --> 04:03.777 ADOLESCENCE AND I REMEMBER I 04:03.777 --> 04:04.878 HEARD ABOUT IT AND CERTAIN 04:04.878 --> 04:05.879 THINGS WERE GOING TO HAPPEN 04:05.879 --> 04:06.980 BUT YOU CAN'T IMAGINE IT 04:06.980 --> 04:08.081 UNTIL YOU EXPERIENCE IT. 04:08.081 --> 04:10.183 I WOKE UP ONE MORNING AND I 04:10.183 --> 04:11.785 HAD HAIR UNDER MY ARM THAT I 04:11.785 --> 04:13.386 THOUGHT WAS 20 FEET LONG. 04:13.386 --> 04:14.387 WAIT A MINUTE, WHERE DID 04:14.387 --> 04:17.490 THIS COME FROM? 04:17.490 --> 04:18.792 LIKE THAT THING THEY NEVER 04:18.792 --> 04:20.627 TOLD ME, WHAT HAPPENED. 04:20.627 --> 04:22.929 I THOUGHT I WAS ABNORMAL AND 04:22.929 --> 04:24.030 BECOMING A GORILLA OR 04:24.030 --> 04:24.330 SOMETHING. 04:24.330 --> 04:25.231 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS 04:25.231 --> 04:25.532 HAPPENING. 04:25.532 --> 04:26.633 SO IT WAS A NATURAL LEAP TO 04:26.633 --> 04:27.734 SAY, WELL, HE IS GOING 04:27.734 --> 04:28.635 THROUGH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE 04:28.635 --> 04:29.736 DOES, EVEN THOUGH YOU FEEL 04:29.736 --> 04:32.138 LIKE YOU HAVE A TAIL AND 04:32.138 --> 04:34.341 GILL SLITS, AND HE REALLY 04:34.341 --> 04:35.241 DOES HAVE IT. 04:35.241 --> 04:37.344 >> I AM TRYING TO KNOW, OR 04:37.344 --> 04:39.646 ASSUME, PRESUME THE VOTE 04:39.646 --> 04:41.047 VOCATION FOR DOING THIS. 04:41.047 --> 04:42.449 YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL ACTOR, 04:42.449 --> 04:43.450 DIRECTOR, PRODUCER. 04:43.450 --> 04:44.751 YOU HAVE A VERY BUSY LIFE. 04:44.751 --> 04:46.953 YOU CAN TWO AS MUCH STUFF 04:46.953 --> 04:47.954 LIKE THAT AS YOU WANT. 04:47.954 --> 04:49.255 YOU CAN DO NONE OF THIS 04:49.255 --> 04:50.156 STUFF. 04:50.156 --> 04:51.758 NOBODY WOULD COME DOWN WHY 04:51.758 --> 04:55.362 DOES BOB BALABAN WRITE FOR 04:55.362 --> 04:57.664 THESE KIDS BUT YOU HAVE 04:57.664 --> 04:59.366 SPENT TIME DOING THIS. 04:59.366 --> 04:59.866 WHY? 04:59.866 --> 05:01.668 >> THE UNEXAMINED LIFE. 05:01.668 --> 05:02.068 I DON'T KNOW. 05:02.068 --> 05:03.169 >> THERE IS NO MOTIVATION? 05:03.169 --> 05:03.970 >> THE MOTIVATION FOR THE 05:03.970 --> 05:05.872 FIRST ONE WAS I DON'T SIT 05:05.872 --> 05:07.173 STILL BASICALLY AS -- YOU 05:07.173 --> 05:10.076 KNOW, I AM ADD-ISH AND ALSO, 05:10.076 --> 05:11.878 THE WHOLE REASON I STARTED 05:11.878 --> 05:13.480 DIVERSIFYING -- I WAS AN 05:13.480 --> 05:15.382 ACTOR FOR MY WHOLE LIFE. 05:15.382 --> 05:16.383 I STARTED BASICALLY WHEN I 05:16.383 --> 05:18.785 WAS 17 OR 18 ACTING 05:18.785 --> 05:19.386 PROFESSIONALLY. 05:19.386 --> 05:20.520 I NEVER IMAGINED I WOULD 05:20.520 --> 05:21.521 HAVE A CAREER PARTICULARLY 05:21.521 --> 05:23.223 BECAUSE HOW -- IT IS SO 05:23.223 --> 05:24.624 UNLIKELY A PERSON SUCH AS I 05:24.624 --> 05:26.126 WOULD BE AN ACTOR. 05:26.126 --> 05:26.926 >> THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO 05:26.926 --> 05:28.328 MAKE IT IS A SMALL 05:28.328 --> 05:29.129 PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WHO 05:29.129 --> 05:30.430 WOULD LOVE TO MAKE IT, LIKE 05:30.430 --> 05:31.431 PRO-SPORTS. 05:31.431 --> 05:31.731 >> PROBABLY. 05:31.731 --> 05:32.632 MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE 05:32.632 --> 05:34.834 IT ARE MOSTLY BEING WAITERS 05:34.834 --> 05:36.436 AND THEY WORK EVERY ONCE IN 05:36.436 --> 05:36.836 A WHILE. 05:36.836 --> 05:38.438 THE SCREEN ACTORS GUILD HAVE 05:38.438 --> 05:40.040 85,000 PEOPLE IN IT AND 05:40.040 --> 05:42.242 4,000 PEOPLE WORK, SO IT IS 05:42.242 --> 05:42.942 VERY DIFFICULT. 05:42.942 --> 05:45.045 I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD BE -- 05:45.045 --> 05:46.646 I DIDN'T EVER ACTUALLY THINK 05:46.646 --> 05:48.048 ABOUT HAVING A CAREER, 05:48.048 --> 05:49.449 HAVING A LIFE, WHAT WOULD I 05:49.449 --> 05:50.950 BE WHEN I GROW UP. 05:50.950 --> 05:53.553 I PAID NO ATTENTION AND I 05:53.553 --> 05:55.055 WENT MOMENT BY MOMENT. 05:55.055 --> 05:56.356 IT IS NOT A GREAT WAY TO 05:56.356 --> 05:57.057 LIVE. 05:57.057 --> 05:57.857 I DON'T RECOMMEND IT. 05:57.857 --> 05:59.059 >> YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE. 05:59.059 --> 06:00.160 >> I GUESS I AM NOT THE ONLY 06:00.160 --> 06:00.460 ONE. 06:00.460 --> 06:01.761 >> AND YOU CAME AROUND IT, I 06:01.761 --> 06:04.864 AM GUESSING LATE '90S TO -- 06:04.864 --> 06:06.366 >> MY FIRST BOOK -- WELL, I 06:06.366 --> 06:07.467 HAVE ONE SERIES OF BOOKS 06:07.467 --> 06:09.169 BEFORE THIS, AND THEN I 06:09.169 --> 06:10.270 WROTE A BOOK THAT WAS 06:10.270 --> 06:15.275 SUCCESSFUL, ABOUT 25 -- 35 06:15.275 --> 06:16.576 YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY, BY 06:16.576 --> 06:18.078 MISTAKE, ACTUALLY. 06:18.078 --> 06:20.213 WHEN I WAS 30 YEARS OLD, 06:20.213 --> 06:21.915 MY -- WE WERE PREGNANT, MY 06:21.915 --> 06:23.116 WIFE WAS PREGNANT AND I HAD 06:23.116 --> 06:24.417 NOT FINISHED COLLEGE BECAUSE 06:24.417 --> 06:25.719 I STARTED WORKING. 06:25.719 --> 06:26.720 ACTUALLY I LEFT TO DO THE 06:26.720 --> 06:28.321 MOVIE CATCH-22 WHEN I WAS A 06:28.321 --> 06:29.422 SENIOR IN COLLEGE AND NEVER 06:29.422 --> 06:30.423 CAME BACK BECAUSE I WAS KIND 06:30.423 --> 06:31.624 OF WORKING AND IT WAS JUST 06:31.624 --> 06:33.126 TWO COURSES, TWO CARES. 06:33.126 --> 06:34.427 MY WIFE IS PREGNANT AND SHE 06:34.427 --> 06:36.229 SAID, I THINK IT'S JUST A 06:36.229 --> 06:37.731 BAD EXAMPLE FOR OUR CHILD TO 06:37.731 --> 06:39.132 KNOW THAT YOU QUIT COLLEGE 06:39.132 --> 06:41.234 AND DIDN'T COME BACK. 06:41.234 --> 06:42.635 >> FIX THAT NOW. 06:42.635 --> 06:43.536 >> YEAH AND SO I DID. 06:43.536 --> 06:45.338 I SIGNED UP FOR TWO COURSES. 06:45.338 --> 06:46.973 I SIGNED UP FOR ENGLISH 06:46.973 --> 06:47.974 COURSE, BOTH THE CRITICAL 06:47.974 --> 06:49.075 THING FOR THESE COURSES IS 06:49.075 --> 06:50.777 YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO ATTEND 06:50.777 --> 06:51.678 BECAUSE I WAS WORKING AND 06:51.678 --> 06:52.679 AWAY ALL THE TIME. 06:52.679 --> 06:53.780 SO YOU PAID YOUR LOTS OF 06:53.780 --> 06:54.981 MONEY FOR YOUR TWO COURSES 06:54.981 --> 06:56.182 AND THEN YOU TOOK -- IN ONE 06:56.182 --> 06:57.584 CASE YOU TOOK AN EXAM FOR 06:57.584 --> 06:58.685 THE ENGLISH COURSE, WHICH 06:58.685 --> 07:00.787 WAS FINE, IT WAS EUGENE 07:00.787 --> 07:03.490 O'NEAL. 07:03.490 --> 07:05.291 I HAD READ IT ALREADY AND MY 07:05.291 --> 07:07.394 WIFE HAD NOTES FROM WHEN SHE 07:07.394 --> 07:09.095 TOOK IT AND I WAS FINE AND 07:09.095 --> 07:11.097 THEN A SOCIOLOGY COURSE. 07:11.097 --> 07:11.998 IT WAS REQUIRED THAT I TAKE 07:11.998 --> 07:13.299 A SOCIOLOGY COURSE BUT I HAD 07:13.299 --> 07:14.601 TO TAKE A COURSE YOU DIDN'T 07:14.601 --> 07:16.102 HAVE TO GO TO SO IT WAS A 07:16.102 --> 07:17.003 COURSE WHERE YOU JUST WROTE 07:17.003 --> 07:17.604 A PAPER. 07:17.604 --> 07:18.805 WHAT KIND OF COURSE IS THAT? 07:18.805 --> 07:19.706 THEY DIDN'T TEACH YOU 07:19.706 --> 07:20.040 ANYTHING. 07:20.040 --> 07:21.441 YOU WROTE YOUR PAPER, SPENT 07:21.441 --> 07:23.743 YOUR $9,000 AND THEN YOU 07:23.743 --> 07:24.644 GRADUATED. 07:24.644 --> 07:26.546 I WROTE A PAPER ABOUT SOCIAL 07:26.546 --> 07:27.847 STRATIFICATION ON A FILM SET 07:27.847 --> 07:29.549 AND THE REASON I CHOSE THAT 07:29.549 --> 07:31.251 IS I JUST FINISHED BEING IN 07:31.251 --> 07:32.852 A MOVIE, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF 07:32.852 --> 07:34.054 THE THIRD KIND, AND I 07:34.054 --> 07:35.155 THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, 07:35.155 --> 07:36.756 THERE IS A LOT OF SOCIAL 07:36.756 --> 07:38.458 STRATIFICATION THERE AND I 07:38.458 --> 07:39.459 DON'T HAVE TO READ ANYTHING. 07:39.459 --> 07:41.461 ALL I DID WAS READ HALF A 07:41.461 --> 07:43.063 BOOK ON SOCIAL 07:43.063 --> 07:44.464 STRATIFICATION SO I KNEW THE 07:44.464 --> 07:45.965 TERMINOLOGY AND WHIPPED UP 07:45.965 --> 07:47.167 MY STORIES ABOUT CLOSE 07:47.167 --> 07:48.868 ENCOUNTERS AND TURNED IT IN 07:48.868 --> 07:50.470 AND GOT AN A. 07:50.470 --> 07:51.271 >> TELL ONE STORY. 07:51.271 --> 07:52.172 >> IT WAS SO BORING. 07:52.172 --> 07:53.673 IT WAS A PAPER I WASN'T 07:53.673 --> 07:54.774 ALLOWED TO BE FUNNY. 07:54.774 --> 07:56.276 I DIDN'T MENTION THE MOVIE. 07:56.276 --> 07:57.977 I CALLED IT MOVIE A AND 07:57.977 --> 07:59.979 CHARACTER ACTOR B, LIKE IT 07:59.979 --> 08:01.081 IS SO IMPORTANT THAT I HIDE 08:01.081 --> 08:02.182 ALL OF THIS. 08:02.182 --> 08:03.083 >> NOT THE NAME. 08:03.083 --> 08:03.583 EXACTLY. 08:03.583 --> 08:04.184 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS 08:04.184 --> 08:04.484 THINKING. 08:04.484 --> 08:05.485 >> NO RECOGNITION OF THE 08:05.485 --> 08:08.588 REGULAR, LIKE... 08:08.588 --> 08:09.889 >> AND THERE IS A PARTY 08:09.889 --> 08:11.491 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE AND 08:11.491 --> 08:12.392 I WAS SAYING TO FRIEND 08:12.392 --> 08:13.493 EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TELLING 08:13.493 --> 08:15.095 YOU, AND IT WAS A GOSSIP 08:15.095 --> 08:16.096 COLUMNIST, I DON'T REMEMBER 08:16.096 --> 08:17.397 WHO, AND LITERALLY THE NEXT 08:17.397 --> 08:18.398 DAY, SOMEBODY CALLED AND 08:18.398 --> 08:19.599 SAID READ THE PAPER. 08:19.599 --> 08:20.500 THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU 08:20.500 --> 08:21.701 IN THE COLUMN. 08:21.701 --> 08:23.303 I SAID WHAT DOES IT SAY. 08:23.303 --> 08:26.206 IT SAID BOB HAS WRITTEN A 08:26.206 --> 08:28.108 FABULOUS TELL-ALL BEHIND THE 08:28.108 --> 08:30.010 SCENES DIARY OF THE MAKING 08:30.010 --> 08:33.513 OF CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, THE 08:33.513 --> 08:34.614 GREATEST MOVIE EVER MADE, 08:34.614 --> 08:36.416 AND I GOT THREE CALLS FROM 08:36.416 --> 08:37.817 PUBLISHERS AND I SOLD THE 08:37.817 --> 08:38.718 BOOK, BUT I HADN'T WRITTEN 08:38.718 --> 08:40.720 THE BOOK AND I HAD TO 08:40.720 --> 08:41.821 CONFESS, WELL, I DON'T HAVE 08:41.821 --> 08:42.222 A BOOK. 08:42.222 --> 08:43.323 WELL, IT IS A GOOD IDEA. 08:43.323 --> 08:45.225 CAN YOU WRITE IT IN A WEEK? 08:45.225 --> 08:46.426 I SAID HOW MUCH WILL YOU PAY 08:46.426 --> 08:47.827 ME AND THEY SAID AND I SAID 08:47.827 --> 08:48.228 OKAY. 08:48.228 --> 08:49.629 SO THAT WAS MY FIRST. 08:49.629 --> 08:50.130 >> BOOK ONE. 08:50.130 --> 08:51.531 >> COMPLETE MISTAKE. 08:51.531 --> 08:52.632 >> SECOND BOOK IS NOW I AM 08:52.632 --> 08:53.533 OLDER. 08:53.533 --> 08:55.935 NOW I AM DIVERSIFIED AND I 08:55.935 --> 08:57.337 STARTED DIRECTING AND 08:57.337 --> 08:58.138 PRODUCING WHEN I WAS ABOUT 08:58.138 --> 08:59.239 35 BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, HOW 08:59.239 --> 09:01.141 MANY MORE TIMES CAN I BE A 09:01.141 --> 09:02.242 DOCTOR OR A LAWYER OR A 09:02.242 --> 09:04.778 PSYCHIATRIST, AND I GOT AN 09:04.778 --> 09:07.480 IDEA FOR TELEVISION, NO, I 09:07.480 --> 09:08.682 GOT IDEA FOR A MOVIE, 09:08.682 --> 09:09.683 ACTUALLY, ABOUT A BOY AND 09:09.683 --> 09:11.785 HIS BIONIC DOG AND I WROTE A 09:11.785 --> 09:12.585 TREATMENT FOR THAT AND 09:12.585 --> 09:14.387 SUBMITTED IT TO SCHOLASTIC 09:14.387 --> 09:15.889 PUBLISHING BECAUSE THEY HAD 09:15.889 --> 09:16.690 A MOVIE DIVISION. 09:16.690 --> 09:17.691 THEY SAID WE DON'T WANT TO 09:17.691 --> 09:19.092 MAKE A MOVIE BUT IT IS A 09:19.092 --> 09:20.827 PERFECT SERIES OF KIDS BOOKS 09:20.827 --> 09:22.128 BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING FOR 09:22.128 --> 09:24.931 BOOKS FOR YOUNG BOYS THAT 09:24.931 --> 09:25.832 WILL BE APPEALING TO YOUNG 09:25.832 --> 09:27.233 BOYS AND FORCE THEM TO READ. 09:27.233 --> 09:28.134 >> AND IT IS EXACTLY THE 09:28.134 --> 09:30.136 KIND OF BOOK, WELL, IT'S NOT 09:30.136 --> 09:31.538 LIKE THAT, SIMPLER. 09:31.538 --> 09:32.739 >> IT WAS ACTUALLY SMALLER 09:32.739 --> 09:33.940 AND DIDN'T HAVE PICTURES, 09:33.940 --> 09:35.542 EITHER, SO KIND OF READING 09:35.542 --> 09:37.043 BOOK BUT A LITTLE BIT EASIER 09:37.043 --> 09:37.644 TO READ. 09:37.644 --> 09:39.346 >> PLOT IS, DOG IS HIT BY A 09:39.346 --> 09:40.146 CAR, RIGHT? 09:40.146 --> 09:41.448 >> YES, HOW DO YOU KNOW 09:41.448 --> 09:41.848 THAT? 09:41.848 --> 09:43.450 >> IN THE MCGROWL. 09:43.450 --> 09:44.451 BECAUSE I PAY ATTENTION TO 09:44.451 --> 09:44.751 THAT. 09:44.751 --> 09:45.852 >> DOG HIT BY A CAR AND THE 09:45.852 --> 09:47.153 OWNER MORE CONCERNED ABOUT 09:47.153 --> 09:48.455 WHETHER THE DOG IS GOING TO 09:48.455 --> 09:49.556 SURVIVE AND THEY DO THE LEE 09:49.556 --> 09:50.657 MAJORS ON HIM. 09:50.657 --> 09:52.158 >> AND A MAD SCIENTIST FIXES 09:52.158 --> 09:54.260 THE DOG AND THE DOG IS NOW 09:54.260 --> 09:55.662 FILLED WITH METAL PARTS AND 09:55.662 --> 09:56.763 HE COMES WITH INSTRUCTIONS 09:56.763 --> 09:58.164 WHEN HE COMES OUT OF THE 09:58.164 --> 09:59.566 HOSPITAL. 09:59.566 --> 10:01.267 HE IS SHAKY AND CREAKS AND 10:01.267 --> 10:02.569 WEIGHS 400 POUNDS EVEN 10:02.569 --> 10:03.570 THOUGH HE IS A LITTLE DOG 10:03.570 --> 10:05.071 BECAUSE HE HAS THIS STUFF IN 10:05.071 --> 10:07.273 IT AND IT SAYS WHEN YOU TAKE 10:07.273 --> 10:09.175 YOUR DOG HOME, DO THIS, DO 10:09.175 --> 10:10.577 THIS, DO THIS AND WHATEVER 10:10.577 --> 10:12.078 YOU DO, DON'T TAKE YOUR DOG 10:12.078 --> 10:13.279 TO A POWER PLANT. 10:13.279 --> 10:15.482 AND WE FIGURED THE CAT-DOG 10:15.482 --> 10:16.683 HATRED RELATIONSHIP AND THE 10:16.683 --> 10:18.084 CAT TANTALIZES THE DOG AND 10:18.084 --> 10:19.285 THE DOG RUNS INTO THE POWER 10:19.285 --> 10:19.486 PLANT. 10:19.486 --> 10:20.920 THE FIRST THING THE DOG GOES 10:20.920 --> 10:22.322 INTO THE POWER PLANT, DON'T 10:22.322 --> 10:23.823 LET MY DOG -- THERE IS A 10:23.823 --> 10:25.025 HUGE EXPLOSION, FIZZLING, 10:25.025 --> 10:26.226 POPPING, ALL EXCITING 10:26.226 --> 10:27.327 THINGS. 10:27.327 --> 10:29.229 THE DOG GOES FLYING 300 FEET 10:29.229 --> 10:30.930 IN THE AIR AND LANDS ON ITS 10:30.930 --> 10:33.566 FEET AND HIS HAIR IS LIKE 10:33.566 --> 10:36.870 FRANKENDOG, LIKE THE BRIDE 10:36.870 --> 10:39.072 OF FRANKENSTEIN AND THEN AS 10:39.072 --> 10:39.973 HE IS COMING HOME, HE 10:39.973 --> 10:41.975 REALIZE HE AND THE DOG HAVE 10:41.975 --> 10:44.377 TELEPATHIC COMMUNICATION 10:44.377 --> 10:45.779 BECAUSE THE DOG HAS SUPER 10:45.779 --> 10:46.379 POWERS. 10:46.379 --> 10:47.781 I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT. 10:47.781 --> 10:49.082 IT IS JUST MY MOVIE THAT 10:49.082 --> 10:50.483 DIDN'T GET MADE AND THIS I 10:50.483 --> 10:51.184 DID ON PURPOSE. 10:51.184 --> 10:52.185 >> HOW MUCH OF YOUR CAREER 10:52.185 --> 10:52.786 HAS BEEN DELIBERATE? 10:52.786 --> 10:53.987 THE CHOICES YOU MAKE ALWAYS 10:53.987 --> 10:55.088 SEEM SO INTERESTING, AND I 10:55.088 --> 10:56.389 AM CERTAIN THERE IS A METHOD 10:56.389 --> 10:58.191 THERE BUT YOU DON'T WORK 10:58.191 --> 10:58.892 BECAUSE YOU NEED THE MONEY, 10:58.892 --> 11:00.193 OR AT LEAST THAT'S NOT HOW 11:00.193 --> 11:01.294 IT APPEARS. 11:01.294 --> 11:02.395 YOU CHOOSE INTERESTING 11:02.395 --> 11:03.196 THINGS TO DO. 11:03.196 --> 11:04.397 THAT'S MY OBSERVATION. 11:04.397 --> 11:06.199 >> MOST THINGS I DO, YOU 11:06.199 --> 11:07.500 DON'T GET PAID FOR 11:07.500 --> 11:08.601 PARTICULARLY, LIKE 11:08.601 --> 11:09.703 INDEPENDENT MOVIES. 11:09.703 --> 11:10.403 >> LABOR OF LOVE. 11:10.403 --> 11:12.205 >> I ACTUALLY THINK -- I 11:12.205 --> 11:14.107 DON'T THINK TOO MUCH THAT 11:14.107 --> 11:15.008 CAN BE TRUE. 11:15.008 --> 11:16.209 I DON'T THINK REALLY IN ANY 11:16.209 --> 11:17.610 OF THE ARTS YOU EVER SIT 11:17.610 --> 11:19.212 DOWN AND GO, I THINK I WILL 11:19.212 --> 11:20.347 PAINT MY PICTURES THIS WAY 11:20.347 --> 11:21.548 SO I WILL MAKE A LOT OF 11:21.548 --> 11:21.848 MONEY. 11:21.848 --> 11:23.350 >> YOU DON'T THINK THERE ARE 11:23.350 --> 11:25.051 DIRECTORS WHO THINK ONE MORE 11:25.051 --> 11:26.353 ME, ONE FOR THEM AND I WILL 11:26.353 --> 11:27.554 MAKE THIS ART AND -- 11:27.554 --> 11:30.557 >> YES, BARRY LIVINGSTON, 11:30.557 --> 11:31.458 WHO IS A FRIEND OF MINE, AND 11:31.458 --> 11:33.059 I LOVE HIM, IF YOU LOOK AT 11:33.059 --> 11:34.661 HIS CAREER, THERE IS A 11:34.661 --> 11:35.862 BALTIMORE MOVIE AND THEN 11:35.862 --> 11:36.663 THERE IS A MOVIE. 11:36.663 --> 11:38.264 IN MY CASE, I BASICALLY -- I 11:38.264 --> 11:39.766 AM SORT OF SELF-SELECTING. 11:39.766 --> 11:41.668 I SENT MOVIES TO DIRECT 11:41.668 --> 11:43.370 EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THAT 11:43.370 --> 11:44.671 ARE SO GENERIC AND SO 11:44.671 --> 11:45.972 HORRIFYING AND I WOULD 11:45.972 --> 11:46.873 POSSIBLY DO THEM BECAUSE I 11:46.873 --> 11:48.775 DID DO ONE OF THOSE MOVIES 11:48.775 --> 11:50.977 IN 15 OR -- WHEN I WAS HERE 11:50.977 --> 11:52.278 IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, BUT I 11:52.278 --> 11:55.482 FOUND THAT IT WAS SO FOR ME 11:55.482 --> 11:56.583 I COULDN'T DO IT. 11:56.583 --> 11:57.984 IT TOOK ME A YEAR TO 11:57.984 --> 11:58.585 RECOVER. 11:58.585 --> 11:59.185 >> NO FUN. 11:59.185 --> 12:00.787 >> DOING THINGS I THOUGHT 12:00.787 --> 12:01.588 THAT IS NOT FUNNY. 12:01.588 --> 12:02.288 I HATE THAT. 12:02.288 --> 12:03.189 WHY COULDN'T I MOVE THE 12:03.189 --> 12:04.891 CAMERA, WHY COULDN'T WE CAST 12:04.891 --> 12:05.291 THIS PERSON. 12:05.291 --> 12:07.193 WE WERE CASTING AN OLDER 12:07.193 --> 12:09.596 ACTRESS WHO IS A GENIUS AND 12:09.596 --> 12:10.897 I WON'T REVEAL HER NAME TO 12:10.897 --> 12:12.499 YOU, ALTHOUGH SHE WILL KNOW. 12:12.499 --> 12:13.299 SHE WON AN ACADEMY AWARD. 12:13.299 --> 12:14.601 SHE IS A GENIUS. 12:14.601 --> 12:16.202 WE WOULD BE LUCKY. 12:16.202 --> 12:17.504 SHE WANTED TO BE IN OUR 12:17.504 --> 12:20.073 MOVIE AND THEY CALLED AND 12:20.073 --> 12:23.543 SAID I THINK SHE HAS LIVER 12:23.543 --> 12:24.844 SPOTS ON HER ARM, AND I SAID 12:24.844 --> 12:26.046 THAT'S OKAY, SHE IS PLAYING 12:26.046 --> 12:27.747 90 YEARS OLD. 12:27.747 --> 12:29.049 AND THEY SAID, WE DON'T WANT 12:29.049 --> 12:31.051 ACTORS WITH LIVER SPOTS ON 12:31.051 --> 12:32.252 THEIR ARMS, AND I SAID, WHO 12:32.252 --> 12:33.853 CARES, I NEVER NOTICE LIVER 12:33.853 --> 12:34.354 SPOTS. 12:34.354 --> 12:36.256 >> WHEN I HEAR THAT, I THINK 12:36.256 --> 12:38.358 HOLLYWOOD IS AS BAD AS IT 12:38.358 --> 12:38.758 CAN BE. 12:38.758 --> 12:39.359 >> YES. 12:39.359 --> 12:41.361 NOT THAT IT CAN BE AND 12:41.361 --> 12:41.861 EVERYTHING ELSE. 12:41.861 --> 12:42.762 >> AND BECAUSE -- 12:42.762 --> 12:43.963 >> BECAUSE I LIKE THEM 12:43.963 --> 12:45.865 DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE GOOD. 12:45.865 --> 12:47.667 >> IT IS INTERESTING TO YOU 12:47.667 --> 12:49.169 OR A PROJECT THAT APPEALS TO 12:49.169 --> 12:49.769 YOU. 12:49.769 --> 12:50.870 >> IT IS INTERESTING TO ME. 12:50.870 --> 12:52.472 >> SO LET'S TALK ABOUT -- 12:52.472 --> 12:53.673 YOU PRODUCED GOSFORD PARK. 12:53.673 --> 12:55.575 >> I SORT OF GENERATED, NOT 12:55.575 --> 12:56.376 CREATED. 12:56.376 --> 12:58.578 >> ROBERT ALTMAN. 12:58.578 --> 13:00.180 >> HE IS A FRIEND OF MINE. 13:00.180 --> 13:01.381 >> WOULD NOT KILL, NOT BE 13:01.381 --> 13:03.183 PAID, A MOP-UP TO WORK WITH 13:03.183 --> 13:06.686 ROBERT ALTMAN AND THE LATE 13:06.686 --> 13:08.488 LAMENTED DEAR DEPARTED 13:08.488 --> 13:13.893 ROBERT ALTMAN. 13:13.893 --> 13:15.895 >> I MET HIM WHEN I WAS 23 13:15.895 --> 13:18.098 OR 24 YEARS OLD FOR BREWSTER 13:18.098 --> 13:19.399 MCCLOUD. 13:19.399 --> 13:21.234 I DIDN'T GET THE PART BUT I 13:21.234 --> 13:21.835 MET HIM. 13:21.835 --> 13:23.336 >> IT IS A WONDERFUL MOVIE. 13:23.336 --> 13:24.838 >> YES, I THINK IT'S GREAT 13:24.838 --> 13:26.139 AND ROBERT WAS WILDLY 13:26.139 --> 13:32.045 INCLUSIVE IN HIS -- IN HIS 13:32.045 --> 13:33.046 BEING WITH ACTORS. 13:33.046 --> 13:35.048 I WENT TO SCREENINGS WITH 13:35.048 --> 13:38.251 MANY OF HIS MOVIES LIKE WITH 13:38.251 --> 13:39.352 MANY PEOPLE WHERE HE WOULD 13:39.352 --> 13:40.653 SAY WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT 13:40.653 --> 13:41.054 THAT. 13:41.054 --> 13:42.655 DID YOU LIKE IT, BUT BOB ON 13:42.655 --> 13:44.357 THE SET WILL GO TO CRAFT 13:44.357 --> 13:45.859 SERVICES AND SAY, YOU AREN'T 13:45.859 --> 13:47.260 COMING TO THE MOVIE, WHAT'S 13:47.260 --> 13:48.261 WRONG, YOU DON'T LIKE THE 13:48.261 --> 13:48.862 MOVIE. 13:48.862 --> 13:49.662 >> VERY GENEROUS. 13:49.662 --> 13:50.964 >> AND INSANELY SECURE ABOUT 13:50.964 --> 13:51.965 HIS WORK, ALSO. 13:51.965 --> 13:53.466 AND TRUTHFULLY, IF YOU CAN 13:53.466 --> 13:55.368 BE A COMMUNIST FILMMAKER, HE 13:55.368 --> 13:57.170 WAS A COMMUNIST FILMMAKER. 13:57.170 --> 13:58.772 >> VERY LATE IN HIS CAREER 13:58.772 --> 14:00.206 THAT FILM, RIGHT? 14:00.206 --> 14:03.309 >> WELL, YEAH, WHEN HE WAS 14:03.309 --> 14:06.212 82, YES, THE LAST FIVE, SIX 14:06.212 --> 14:06.913 YEARS. 14:06.913 --> 14:07.614 >> BUT THE FILM IS 14:07.614 --> 14:08.214 FANTASTIC. 14:08.214 --> 14:09.115 IN SO MANY WAYS IT IS 14:09.115 --> 14:14.821 PERFECT AS AN ALTMAN FILM. 14:14.821 --> 14:16.322 IT FITS PERFECTLY. 14:16.322 --> 14:17.424 >> WELL, SOMEBODY SAID I 14:17.424 --> 14:18.725 THINK IN HIS MEMORIAL 14:18.725 --> 14:19.526 SERVICE WHICH WAS BEAUTIFUL, 14:19.526 --> 14:21.461 ROBERT MADE ONE LONG MOVIE. 14:21.461 --> 14:22.862 HE DIDN'T LIKE THEM TO END. 14:22.862 --> 14:24.264 HE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF 14:24.264 --> 14:26.466 PEOPLE TALKING A LOT OF THE 14:26.466 --> 14:28.068 TIME, LIKE A FAMILY FOR HIM. 14:28.068 --> 14:30.170 NO MATTER HOW YOU READ IT ON 14:30.170 --> 14:32.872 PAPER, THERE WERE GOING TO 14:32.872 --> 14:34.674 BE SCENES OF 28 PEOPLE 14:34.674 --> 14:35.075 TALKING. 14:35.075 --> 14:37.977 I HAVE BEEN ON THE SCENE 14:37.977 --> 14:39.779 WITH 28 PEOPLE TALKING BUT 14:39.779 --> 14:41.481 BOB LIKED THE NOISE, HE 14:41.481 --> 14:42.682 LIKED THE COMPETITION FOR 14:42.682 --> 14:43.383 WHO IS GOING TO HAVE THE 14:43.383 --> 14:44.184 STAGE RIGHT NOW. 14:44.184 --> 14:45.185 HE LOVED THAT. 14:45.185 --> 14:46.886 >> WE MENTIONED MOONRISE 14:46.886 --> 14:47.487 KINGDOM. 14:47.487 --> 14:48.688 >> YES. 14:48.688 --> 14:50.090 >> WES ANDERSON, IN SOME 14:50.090 --> 14:52.392 WAYS LIKE ALTMAN CREATES 14:52.392 --> 14:54.394 THIS VERY PERFECT WORLD. 14:54.394 --> 14:56.596 YOU CAN PASS BY A FILM 14:56.596 --> 14:57.897 SCREEN WITH WES ANDERSON 14:57.897 --> 14:59.799 FILM TRAILER ON IT AND 14:59.799 --> 15:01.901 WITHOUT SEEING WHO IS IN IT 15:01.901 --> 15:04.804 OR WHAT, THAT IT IS WES. 15:04.804 --> 15:05.905 >> I CAN'T THINK OF A 15:05.905 --> 15:08.908 FILMMAKER LIKE THAT THAT HAS 15:08.908 --> 15:09.909 PEOPLE WEARING THE SAME 15:09.909 --> 15:11.711 COSTUMES IN ALL PERIODS AND 15:11.711 --> 15:13.813 SAME MOVIES AND THEY AREN'T 15:13.813 --> 15:15.415 EXACTLY THE SAME BUT HIS 15:15.415 --> 15:16.516 POINT OF VIEW -- THE REASON 15:16.516 --> 15:17.717 YOU BOUGHT IT IN A WES 15:17.717 --> 15:19.219 ANDERSON MOVIE AND I THOUGHT 15:19.219 --> 15:20.353 IT WORKED REALLY GOOD IN 15:20.353 --> 15:22.155 MOONRISE KINGDOM BECAUSE I 15:22.155 --> 15:23.456 THOUGHT IT LOOKS SO 15:23.456 --> 15:25.258 ARTIFICIAL IN A WAY AND IT'S 15:25.258 --> 15:28.862 SO EMOTIONAL AND SO POWERFUL 15:28.862 --> 15:30.764 AND VISCERAL THAT THE 15:30.764 --> 15:31.965 TENSION BETWEEN THE TWO I 15:31.965 --> 15:32.866 THOUGHT WAS BRILLIANT. 15:32.866 --> 15:33.667 I LOVED THAT. 15:33.667 --> 15:34.968 >> AND GETS SUCH GREAT WORK 15:34.968 --> 15:36.169 OUT OF ITS ACTORS. 15:36.169 --> 15:39.472 ALL OF THE FILMS, RUSHMORE, 15:39.472 --> 15:42.976 AND EVEN STEVE ZISSOU, WHICH 15:42.976 --> 15:44.878 I PERSONALLY DIDN'T LIKE AS 15:44.878 --> 15:45.278 MUCH. 15:45.278 --> 15:47.080 BUT ALL OF THOSE ARE SO 15:47.080 --> 15:48.281 AMAZING HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO 15:48.281 --> 15:49.082 CONJURE UP. 15:49.082 --> 15:49.883 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU 15:49.883 --> 15:50.583 WORKED WITH HIM? 15:50.583 --> 15:51.985 >> I KNEW HIM SLIGHTLY BUT 15:51.985 --> 15:53.086 THE FIRST TIME, YES. 15:53.086 --> 15:54.087 >> DOES HE HAVE HESITATION 15:54.087 --> 15:54.587 AT ALL? 15:54.587 --> 15:56.790 >> HESITATION, GOD NO. 15:56.790 --> 15:57.891 >> SORT OF LIKE WHAT PEOPLE 15:57.891 --> 15:59.993 SAY ABOUT WOODY ALLEN, OH MY 15:59.993 --> 16:00.994 GOD I GOT THE CALL. 16:00.994 --> 16:03.596 >> I AM DOING WES ANDERSON'S 16:03.596 --> 16:04.297 NEXT MOVIE. 16:04.297 --> 16:05.198 I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM DOING 16:05.198 --> 16:05.799 OR THE NAME. 16:05.799 --> 16:07.100 >> A WEIRD MYSTIQUE. 16:07.100 --> 16:08.401 >> I HAVE NO IDEA. 16:08.401 --> 16:10.003 >> WHY DID YOU GO INTO THE 16:10.003 --> 16:11.604 BUSINESS TO BEGIN WITH? 16:11.604 --> 16:13.506 YOU SAID YOU STARTED ACTING 16:13.506 --> 16:15.008 WHEN, WHAT, 17? 16:15.008 --> 16:18.411 >> YES, I WAS A CAPTAINEER 16:18.411 --> 16:21.147 WHEN I WAS 3 YEARS OLD. 16:21.147 --> 16:22.449 WELL MY FAMILY COMES FROM 16:22.449 --> 16:23.249 THE SHOW BUSINESS, 16:23.249 --> 16:23.850 BASICALLY. 16:23.850 --> 16:24.951 >> TALK ABOUT THAT. 16:24.951 --> 16:27.954 >> MY DAD WAS BORN IN 1908, 16:27.954 --> 16:29.956 THE YOUNGEST OF -- FEW OF 16:29.956 --> 16:31.558 THE KIDS DIED SO PROBABLY 16:31.558 --> 16:33.159 YOUNGEST OF 11 KIDS ON A 16:33.159 --> 16:34.461 STREET CALLED MAXWELL STREET 16:34.461 --> 16:35.662 IN CHICAGO WHICH IS LOWEST 16:35.662 --> 16:38.465 EAST SIDE JEWISH GHETTO OF 16:38.465 --> 16:40.867 CHICAGO, AND BENNY GOODMAN, 16:40.867 --> 16:44.270 JACK RUBY, ARTHUR, FIRST 16:44.270 --> 16:46.072 JEWISH MEMBER OF THE SUPREME 16:46.072 --> 16:49.976 COURT, ARTHUR GOLDBERG, BILL 16:49.976 --> 16:51.378 PALEY, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE 16:51.378 --> 16:53.580 LIVED IN ABJECT PROPERTY IN 16:53.580 --> 16:54.881 THE LOWER WEST SIDE OF 16:54.881 --> 16:55.982 CHICAGO AND HIS MOTHER 16:55.982 --> 16:57.884 WALKED INTO A NICKELODEON IN 16:57.884 --> 16:59.786 1980 AND WERE IN THE GROCERY 16:59.786 --> 17:00.887 BUSINESS AND THEY WERE 17:00.887 --> 17:02.789 FAILING AND DOING VERY, VERY 17:02.789 --> 17:04.591 BADLY BECAUSE MY GRANDFATHER 17:04.591 --> 17:07.394 WAS A KIND, SWEET MAN AND 17:07.394 --> 17:08.495 EVERYBODY BOUGHT ON CREDIT 17:08.495 --> 17:12.098 AND HE WOULD NEVER GO 17:12.098 --> 17:12.799 COLLECT MONEY AT THE END OF 17:12.799 --> 17:14.300 THE MONTH BECAUSE HE WAS TOO 17:14.300 --> 17:16.403 GUILTY TO DO THAT, AND THEY 17:16.403 --> 17:21.241 BARELY HAD REFRIGERATION AND 17:21.241 --> 17:23.243 EVERY VEGETABLE WOULD GO 17:23.243 --> 17:23.443 BAD. 17:23.443 --> 17:24.944 AND SHE WENT TO NICKELODEON 17:24.944 --> 17:26.246 AND THE OLDER BROTHER CAME 17:26.246 --> 17:28.148 WITH HER AND SHE WENT HOME 17:28.148 --> 17:29.849 SAID, BOYS, IT IS THE 17:29.849 --> 17:30.750 BUSINESS OF THE FUTURE WE 17:30.750 --> 17:31.951 ARE GOING IN THE MOVIE 17:31.951 --> 17:33.253 BUSINESS OF 1908. 17:33.253 --> 17:34.154 >> SHE THOUGHT -- 17:34.154 --> 17:34.954 >> SHE SAID THERE IS NO 17:34.954 --> 17:35.355 WASTE. 17:35.355 --> 17:37.991 >> -- NOTHING TO THROW AWAY. 17:37.991 --> 17:39.893 >> NOTHING TO THROW AWAY. 17:39.893 --> 17:41.094 >> YOU SEND IT BACK, GET A 17:41.094 --> 17:41.695 NEW ONE. 17:41.695 --> 17:42.595 >> BRAND NEW, AND I DON'T 17:42.595 --> 17:43.997 CARE WHAT YOUR FATHER DOES. 17:43.997 --> 17:45.198 YOU'VE GOT TO PAY WHEN YOU 17:45.198 --> 17:45.899 COME IN. 17:45.899 --> 17:46.900 IT'S A NICKEL. 17:46.900 --> 17:47.901 IT IS CALLED NICKELODEN. 17:47.901 --> 17:53.306 YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE 17:53.306 --> 17:53.707 YOU GO. 17:53.707 --> 17:57.210 THEY DID THAT. 17:57.210 --> 17:59.312 25 YEARS LATER, THEY HAVE 75 17:59.312 --> 18:03.416 PICTURE ALBUMS THERE AND 18:03.416 --> 18:06.019 THEN THEY WENT ON BALLAD -- 18:06.019 --> 18:08.321 MY DAD'S OLDEST BROTHER WENT 18:08.321 --> 18:10.123 TO RUN PARAMOUNT FOR 35 18:10.123 --> 18:10.423 YEARS. 18:10.423 --> 18:11.424 AND THEN SAM KATZ, WHO HAS 18:11.424 --> 18:13.326 BEEN MARRIED TO MY FATHER'S 18:13.326 --> 18:14.728 SISTER, SHE DIED AND MOVED 18:14.728 --> 18:16.930 TO CALIFORNIA AND RAN RKO 18:16.930 --> 18:18.031 FOR A WHILE AND STARTED 18:18.031 --> 18:20.533 MUSICAL DIVISION AT MGM AND 18:20.533 --> 18:23.036 HIRED ARTHUR FREED AND HAD 18:23.036 --> 18:25.238 FRED ASTAIRE AND GENE KELLY 18:25.238 --> 18:26.539 MOVIE AND SINGING IN THE 18:26.539 --> 18:28.141 RAIN AND WIZARD OF OZ AND 18:28.141 --> 18:28.641 STUFF. 18:28.641 --> 18:29.743 >> IT IS A FAMILY BUSINESS. 18:29.743 --> 18:31.044 >> YES, AND THEY WERE SO 18:31.044 --> 18:31.444 OLD. 18:31.444 --> 18:32.846 I VAGUELY KNEW ABOUT THEM 18:32.846 --> 18:34.547 AND I DIDN'T GROW UP IN THE 18:34.547 --> 18:35.949 MOVIE BUSINESS. 18:35.949 --> 18:37.450 IT WAS SOMEWHAT IN MY BLOOD. 18:37.450 --> 18:39.052 MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN MY 18:39.052 --> 18:40.453 FAMILY DIDN'T GET INTO IT 18:40.453 --> 18:41.654 BUT I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO 18:41.654 --> 18:43.556 SOMETHING ABOUT TELLING 18:43.556 --> 18:45.759 STORIES AND I NEVER, EVER, 18:45.759 --> 18:47.260 LIKE LOOK FORWARD TO AN HOUR 18:47.260 --> 18:48.762 AND A HALF, LIKE WHO IS 18:48.762 --> 18:50.063 GOING TO GO TO MY NEXT 18:50.063 --> 18:51.965 PUPPET SHOW, THAT IS AS FAR 18:51.965 --> 18:53.466 AS I COULD SEE IN THE FUTURE 18:53.466 --> 18:53.967 OF THAT. 18:53.967 --> 18:55.969 I WORKED AT A VERY YOUNG AGE 18:55.969 --> 18:56.870 AND ALWAYS CONTINUED TO 18:56.870 --> 18:57.470 WORK. 18:57.470 --> 18:58.471 >> DID YOU ALWAYS IMAGINE 18:58.471 --> 18:59.773 YOUR CAREER WOULD BE THIS? 18:59.773 --> 19:00.573 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS 19:00.573 --> 19:02.275 FRANKLY, BUT YOU WILL HAVE 19:02.275 --> 19:03.176 TO TELL ME. 19:03.176 --> 19:04.978 >> WHAT IS THE BEST WAY -- 19:04.978 --> 19:06.479 IS MIDNIGHT COWBOY BEFORE 19:06.479 --> 19:07.881 CAST AWAY? 19:07.881 --> 19:08.481 >> THE SAME. 19:08.481 --> 19:11.484 >> CAME OUT IN '69. 19:11.484 --> 19:13.086 >> YES, I WAS A SENIOR IN 19:13.086 --> 19:13.486 COLLEGE. 19:13.486 --> 19:14.487 >> YOU ARE LOOKING AT 45 19:14.487 --> 19:15.989 YEARS DOING THIS? 19:15.989 --> 19:17.290 >> YES. 19:17.290 --> 19:18.191 >> CAN WE EAT THIS TIME AND 19:18.191 --> 19:19.092 GET IT BACK. 19:19.092 --> 19:20.126 >> MR. MCGROWL. 19:20.126 --> 19:22.929 >> I AM ON A TIGHTROPE. 19:22.929 --> 19:24.230 IF YOU TELL ME THIS, I WILL 19:24.230 --> 19:25.031 FALL OFF. 19:25.031 --> 19:26.833 >> WHAT IS AMAZING IS YOUR 19:26.833 --> 19:28.535 CAREER AS OUTSIDE OBSERVER 19:28.535 --> 19:29.436 IS SO CONSISTENT. 19:29.436 --> 19:30.637 YOU WORKED CONSISTENTLY AND 19:30.637 --> 19:31.838 YOU HAVE MADE CHOICES YOU 19:31.838 --> 19:33.840 WANT TO MAKE AND I THINK IN 19:33.840 --> 19:34.541 SOME WAYS THE CHRISTOPHER 19:34.541 --> 19:37.243 GUEST FILMS, WHICH WE 19:37.243 --> 19:38.845 HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE 19:38.845 --> 19:40.246 WILL, WHAT A WONDERFUL THING 19:40.246 --> 19:41.848 TO BE DOING WITH THIS, THAT, 19:41.848 --> 19:42.749 THE OTHER. 19:42.749 --> 19:44.050 >> SO WONDERFUL AND FUN. 19:44.050 --> 19:45.452 >> ARE THEY AS FUN AS THEY 19:45.452 --> 19:47.654 APPEAR TO BE? 19:47.654 --> 19:48.254 >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. 19:48.254 --> 19:50.256 THE MOST FOUND FOR ME WAS 19:50.256 --> 19:51.458 THE FIRST ONE, BECAUSE I 19:51.458 --> 19:52.559 NEVER KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT 19:52.559 --> 19:53.059 IT. 19:53.059 --> 19:54.361 COMING TO THIS MOVIE. 19:54.361 --> 19:56.363 >> WAITING FOR GUFFMAN. 19:56.363 --> 19:58.164 >> YES, WAITING FOR GUFFMAN 19:58.164 --> 19:59.766 AND YOU SEE AN OUTLINE AND 19:59.766 --> 20:00.367 THAT IS IT. 20:00.367 --> 20:02.469 >> THE RUMORS ABOUT HOW THEY 20:02.469 --> 20:03.403 COME TOGETHER IS TRUE. 20:03.403 --> 20:04.804 >> YES, THE RUMOR IS TRUE. 20:04.804 --> 20:05.705 >> BASICALLY WE HAVE A 20:05.705 --> 20:06.906 SKETCH OF WHAT WE THINK WE 20:06.906 --> 20:08.308 ARE GOING TO DO BUT WE HAVE 20:08.308 --> 20:09.509 NOTHING SPECIFIC, THOUGH. 20:09.509 --> 20:10.710 >> YES, WELL, THEY HAVE 20:10.710 --> 20:12.012 SPECIFIC IN THAT THIS IS THE 20:12.012 --> 20:12.512 FIRST SCENE. 20:12.512 --> 20:13.713 YOU ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE 20:13.713 --> 20:15.415 FACT THAT GUFFMAN IS GOING 20:15.415 --> 20:16.716 TO COME IN AT THE END OF THE 20:16.716 --> 20:18.018 MOVIE, THIS IS WHERE WE 20:18.018 --> 20:19.119 REHEARSE AND DO THAT. 20:19.119 --> 20:20.253 >> BUT ONLY AS SPECIFIC AS 20:20.253 --> 20:21.354 THINGS ESSENTIALLY THAT MOVE 20:21.354 --> 20:22.856 THE PLOT ALONG BUT THE 20:22.856 --> 20:24.057 DETAILS, GUTS OF IT, THE 20:24.057 --> 20:25.158 LINES -- 20:25.158 --> 20:26.059 >> OH,YEAH. 20:26.059 --> 20:26.960 >> YOU FILL IT IN. 20:26.960 --> 20:27.861 >> AND YOU SHOOT A 20:27.861 --> 20:29.262 TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THINGS 20:29.262 --> 20:30.163 WHICH DON'T END UP IN THE 20:30.163 --> 20:32.165 MOVIE WHICH IS AMAZING FOR 20:32.165 --> 20:32.866 SEVERAL REASONS. 20:32.866 --> 20:34.267 WE IN THE MOVIE, WHEN YOU 20:34.267 --> 20:35.969 SEE THE MOVIE LIKE WAITING 20:35.969 --> 20:37.270 FOR GUFFMAN IN THE 20:37.270 --> 20:39.372 BEGINNING, WE WOULD SEE THE 20:39.372 --> 20:40.573 MOVIE AND CALL EACH OTHER 20:40.573 --> 20:42.776 AND SAY, I AM SO SAD BECAUSE 20:42.776 --> 20:44.577 ALL OF OUR PARTS WERE GONE. 20:44.577 --> 20:46.079 >> YOUR GRANDMOTHER WOULD 20:46.079 --> 20:46.579 HATE IT. 20:46.579 --> 20:49.783 >> LOOK HOW MUCH WASTE THERE 20:49.783 --> 20:50.183 IS. 20:50.183 --> 20:52.385 >> I AM AMAZED IN THE ERA WE 20:52.385 --> 20:53.787 LIVE IN, WHERE THERE IS 20:53.787 --> 20:55.088 EXTRAS ON DVDS. 20:55.088 --> 20:57.390 >> WE HAVE EXTRAS BUT HE 20:57.390 --> 20:58.992 DOESN'T PUT IT. 20:58.992 --> 21:00.093 >> IT WOULD BE AMAZING IF 21:00.093 --> 21:01.294 THEY RELEASED THE STUFF. 21:01.294 --> 21:02.495 >> TWO THINGS, YOU HAVE TO 21:02.495 --> 21:02.896 CUT THEM. 21:02.896 --> 21:04.898 YOU CAN'T SHOW THE FOOTAGE 21:04.898 --> 21:05.198 RAW. 21:05.198 --> 21:06.399 IT REQUIRES A LOT OF ENERGY 21:06.399 --> 21:07.701 TO CUT AND THERE IS A LOT OF 21:07.701 --> 21:10.203 UNBELIEVABLE BORING STUFF IN 21:10.203 --> 21:12.005 OUTTAKES BECAUSE WE ARE NOT 21:12.005 --> 21:13.206 ENCOURAGED TO BE FUNNY. 21:13.206 --> 21:14.107 IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE IT IS 21:14.107 --> 21:14.607 FUNNY. 21:14.607 --> 21:15.408 >> IT IS NOT UNUSUAL BECAUSE 21:15.408 --> 21:17.711 YOU CRACK ONE -- I HAVE TO 21:17.711 --> 21:20.947 IMAGINE EUGENE CRACKING 21:20.947 --> 21:21.648 EVERYBODY UP. 21:21.648 --> 21:22.649 >> WE WILL CRACK UP FROM 21:22.649 --> 21:23.350 TIME TO TIME, BUT IT IS KIND 21:23.350 --> 21:26.453 OF FROWNED UPON AND WE TRY 21:26.453 --> 21:27.053 NOT TO. 21:27.053 --> 21:28.855 MOSTLY I CRACK UP WHEN I AM 21:28.855 --> 21:29.255 TIRED. 21:29.255 --> 21:30.657 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE FUNNY. 21:30.657 --> 21:32.258 IF I AM REALLY TIRED, I CAN 21:32.258 --> 21:33.259 START LAUGHING NOW. 21:33.259 --> 21:33.660 [LAUGHTER]. 21:33.660 --> 21:35.061 >> DON'T RUIN THIS VERY 21:35.061 --> 21:35.962 SOMBER MOOD. 21:35.962 --> 21:36.563 >> SORRY. 21:36.563 --> 21:37.364 >> BUT THE SPECIFICS OF 21:37.364 --> 21:39.065 THIS -- I AM TO ASSUME THAT 21:39.065 --> 21:40.066 SPECIFIC ATTRIBUTES OF 21:40.066 --> 21:41.668 CHARACTER OF YOURS IN THOSE 21:41.668 --> 21:43.670 FILMS, MY FAVORITE THING IN 21:43.670 --> 21:44.971 THE ENTIRE WORLD, IN THE 21:44.971 --> 21:46.973 ENTIRE WORLD IS YOU HAVING 21:46.973 --> 21:49.175 TO WEAR A FOOTBALL HELMET 21:49.175 --> 21:53.780 PLAYING CHESS AS A CHILD 21:53.780 --> 21:58.385 BECAUSE YOUR MOTHER WAS 21:58.385 --> 21:59.886 AFRAID YOU WOULD FALL AND 21:59.886 --> 22:01.688 BREAK YOUR HEAD. 22:01.688 --> 22:03.189 >> THAT IS PARTIALLY TRUE. 22:03.189 --> 22:03.990 >> MIGHTY WIND. 22:03.990 --> 22:05.091 >> MIGHTY WIND. 22:05.091 --> 22:06.393 >> EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, I 22:06.393 --> 22:07.494 LOVE HE SAID THAT AND WE 22:07.494 --> 22:08.795 TALK TO THE CAMERA AND SAY 22:08.795 --> 22:09.696 STUFF ABOUT OURSELVES AND 22:09.696 --> 22:10.897 EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, 22:10.897 --> 22:12.499 CHRISTOPHER OR EUGENE WILL 22:12.499 --> 22:13.700 GET AN IDEA, WHOEVER IS 22:13.700 --> 22:14.601 WRITING THIS THING, AND 22:14.601 --> 22:15.702 OCCASIONALLY THEY WILL PUT 22:15.702 --> 22:16.703 IN A GOOD JOKE. 22:16.703 --> 22:17.604 WHEN HE PUT IN THE JOKE 22:17.604 --> 22:18.505 ABOUT MY MOTHER, I COULD 22:18.505 --> 22:19.406 HAVE DONE ANYTHING ELSE IN 22:19.406 --> 22:20.240 THE WORLD. 22:20.240 --> 22:21.241 I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE HAD TO 22:21.241 --> 22:23.043 SAY THAT BUT IF I HATE IT, I 22:23.043 --> 22:24.244 WOULDN'T SAY IT BUT IT 22:24.244 --> 22:25.278 COMPLETELY INFLUENCED 22:25.278 --> 22:26.179 EVERYTHING ABOUT ME FOR THE 22:26.179 --> 22:27.380 REST OF THE MOVIE. 22:27.380 --> 22:29.683 >> MY MOST FAVORITE THING IN 22:29.683 --> 22:30.784 ANY OF THOSE THINGS, THE 22:30.784 --> 22:32.185 MOST MEMORABLE THING. 22:32.185 --> 22:33.286 >> I LIKE THAT, ALTHOUGH I 22:33.286 --> 22:33.987 DIDN'T WRITE IT. 22:33.987 --> 22:35.588 FROM THEN ON IN THE MOVIE, 22:35.588 --> 22:36.589 ANY TIME -- AND THIS IS 22:36.589 --> 22:37.590 SUBCONSCIOUS BECAUSE YOU 22:37.590 --> 22:38.692 DON'T -- IT IS INTERESTING, 22:38.692 --> 22:40.193 I STUDIED AT THE SECOND CITY 22:40.193 --> 22:41.094 IN CHICAGO WHEN I WAS IN 22:41.094 --> 22:41.394 HIGH SCHOOL. 22:41.394 --> 22:42.896 THEY HAD A TEENAGE WORKSHOP 22:42.896 --> 22:44.798 WITH THIS AMAZING WOMAN 22:44.798 --> 22:49.202 CALLED VIOLA SPOLIN WHO 22:49.202 --> 22:51.905 WROTE THE BOOK ON IMPROVE 22:51.905 --> 22:53.206 ADVERTISING -- I THINK IT IS 22:53.206 --> 22:54.808 CALLED THEATER GAMES AND 22:54.808 --> 22:56.509 FANTASTIC BUT SHE ALWAYS 22:56.509 --> 22:57.610 MADE A VERY SECURE POINT. 22:57.610 --> 22:59.112 YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, WHERE 22:59.112 --> 23:00.113 YOU WENT, WHERE YOU ARE 23:00.113 --> 23:00.313 GOING. 23:00.313 --> 23:01.414 YOU KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 23:01.414 --> 23:03.316 YOU DO NOT COME IN AND PLAN 23:03.316 --> 23:04.517 WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY OR 23:04.517 --> 23:04.818 DO. 23:04.818 --> 23:05.919 YOU ALLOW THE STICKS TO 23:05.919 --> 23:07.320 BRING YOU TO THAT AND IT IS 23:07.320 --> 23:08.922 REALLY ODD -- WELL, WHAT AM 23:08.922 --> 23:09.923 I, PSYCHOTIC. 23:09.923 --> 23:13.126 I KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT 23:13.126 --> 23:15.128 THE TRUTH IS IT ACTUALLY 23:15.128 --> 23:16.229 WORKS. 23:16.229 --> 23:19.532 I WASN'T -- I AM NOT SUCH A 23:19.532 --> 23:20.767 GREAT ACTOR BUT IF YOU TELL 23:20.767 --> 23:22.268 ME YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO 23:22.268 --> 23:23.269 ANYTHING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO 23:23.269 --> 23:24.671 LEARN ANYTHING, DO WHAT YOU 23:24.671 --> 23:25.872 NORMALLY WOULD DO BECAUSE IT 23:25.872 --> 23:27.574 IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING, I CAN 23:27.574 --> 23:28.575 DO THAT. 23:28.575 --> 23:29.476 I MAY NOT BE FUNNY 23:29.476 --> 23:30.477 NECESSARILY. 23:30.477 --> 23:31.778 I CAN DO IT BUT YOU ARE 23:31.778 --> 23:33.279 TAUGHT DON'T USE YOUR HEAD 23:33.279 --> 23:35.081 TO CREATE, USE WHATEVER IS 23:35.081 --> 23:36.483 GOING ON IN THERE BUT THAT 23:36.483 --> 23:39.919 WAS -- CAME INTO PLAY 23:39.919 --> 23:40.720 COMPLETELY DURING THE 23:40.720 --> 23:41.421 MOVIES. 23:41.421 --> 23:42.822 >> AND NOW TO THE CELL 23:42.822 --> 23:44.424 VISION PROGRAMS FOR HBO. 23:44.424 --> 23:45.825 >> SERIES FOR HBO. 23:45.825 --> 23:46.926 >> WITH MOST OF THE CAST OR 23:46.926 --> 23:47.627 ALL OF THE CAST. 23:47.627 --> 23:48.628 >> I KNOW SOME OF THE 23:48.628 --> 23:51.531 PEOPLE, MICHAEL MCKEAN IS IN 23:51.531 --> 23:51.831 IT. 23:51.831 --> 23:54.034 I AM IN THE END AT AMERICA, 23:54.034 --> 23:55.235 I PLAY TWO CHARACTERS FOR 23:55.235 --> 23:56.436 THAT BUT I CAN'T REVEAL 23:56.436 --> 23:56.736 THAT. 23:56.736 --> 23:57.737 IT IS TOO EXCITING. 23:57.737 --> 23:59.839 AND I THINK I WILL BE IN IT 23:59.839 --> 24:01.041 AND I THINK IT PROBABLY WILL 24:01.041 --> 24:01.941 BE WONDERFUL. 24:01.941 --> 24:03.443 >> THAT IS THE NEXT BIG 24:03.443 --> 24:04.644 THING YOU ARE DOING? 24:04.644 --> 24:06.246 >> I AM ACTING IN A BUNCH OF 24:06.246 --> 24:06.846 MOVIES. 24:06.846 --> 24:07.847 I CAN TELL YOU THE FIRST 24:07.847 --> 24:09.149 TWO, I WILL HINT ABOUT THE 24:09.149 --> 24:09.649 THIRD ONE. 24:09.649 --> 24:11.351 I AM DOING A MOVIE WITH JOHN 24:11.351 --> 24:11.651 TURTURRO. 24:11.651 --> 24:15.855 HE IS DIRECTING THE NEXT 24:15.855 --> 24:17.357 WEEK OR TWO IN NEW YORK. 24:17.357 --> 24:19.259 I PLAY WOODY ALLEN'S LAWYER 24:19.259 --> 24:20.794 AND WOODY IS ACTING IN THE 24:20.794 --> 24:21.294 MOVIE. 24:21.294 --> 24:22.195 >> WOW. 24:22.195 --> 24:23.596 >> SHARON STONE IS THE LOVE 24:23.596 --> 24:24.497 INTEREST IN THE MOVIE. 24:24.497 --> 24:26.299 I LOVE THE SCRIPT AND THINK 24:26.299 --> 24:27.801 IT IS TERRIFIC AND ENJOY MY 24:27.801 --> 24:28.101 PART. 24:28.101 --> 24:28.702 >> THAT IS ONE. 24:28.702 --> 24:30.003 >> I HAVE A PLAY RUNNING IN 24:30.003 --> 24:30.403 NEW YORK THAT I 24:30.403 --> 24:31.905 CONSTANTLY -- I PUT PEOPLE 24:31.905 --> 24:33.106 INTO IT, SO IT IS KIND OF 24:33.106 --> 24:35.008 SOMETHING I AM DOING CALLED 24:35.008 --> 24:37.210 THE EXONERATED, A DOCUDRAMA 24:37.210 --> 24:38.611 ABOUT SIX MEN AND WOMEN ON 24:38.611 --> 24:40.013 DEATH ROW WHO ARE INNOCENT 24:40.013 --> 24:41.514 AND ACTING IN ANOTHER WES 24:41.514 --> 24:43.316 ANDERSON MOVIE, I THINK IN 24:43.316 --> 24:44.417 GERMANY IN FEBRUARY. 24:44.417 --> 24:46.319 I AM NOT THERE FOR LONG, IT 24:46.319 --> 24:47.921 IS SORT OF -- PROBABLY A FEW 24:47.921 --> 24:49.022 DAYS I WILL BE THERE AND I 24:49.022 --> 24:50.323 AM DOING ANOTHER MOVIE WHICH 24:50.323 --> 24:51.624 I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT 24:51.624 --> 24:53.326 RIGHT NOW, BUT IN EUROPE. 24:53.326 --> 24:54.327 IT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING IN 24:54.327 --> 24:56.129 EUROPE FOR LIKE A COUPLE OF 24:56.129 --> 24:57.530 MONTHS, ALSO. 24:57.530 --> 24:58.231 >> FANTASTIC. 24:58.231 --> 25:00.333 >> ALSO IN FEBRUARY OR 25:00.333 --> 25:00.533 MARCH. 25:00.533 --> 25:01.935 >> I AM VERY HEARTENED AS I 25:01.935 --> 25:03.036 LOOK OUT IN THE WORLD TO 25:03.036 --> 25:04.237 KNOW THAT YOU WORK 25:04.237 --> 25:04.938 CONSISTENTLY. 25:04.938 --> 25:06.039 >> WELL, I AM GLAD. 25:06.039 --> 25:07.640 [LAUGHTER].. 25:07.640 --> 25:08.041 GOOD. 25:08.041 --> 25:08.341 GOOD. 25:08.341 --> 25:09.342 >> THAT'S THE KIND OF WORLD 25:09.342 --> 25:10.343 I WANT TO LIVE IN. 25:10.343 --> 25:10.844 >> GOOD. 25:10.844 --> 25:12.345 >> THEY ARE TELLING ME WE 25:12.345 --> 25:13.146 ARE OUT OF TIME. 25:13.146 --> 25:15.148 I'M AM REALLY ELATED ABOUT 25:15.148 --> 25:16.149 THIS BOOK AND I HOPE THE 25:16.149 --> 25:16.750 FIRST OF MANY. 25:16.750 --> 25:18.051 I KNOW YOU HAVE A COUPLE, 25:18.051 --> 25:19.652 COMPLETED ONE AND WRITTEN ON 25:19.652 --> 25:20.286 IT -- 25:20.286 --> 25:21.488 >> I AM NOT SURE I CAN WRITE 25:21.488 --> 25:23.490 MORE THAN FOUR, I MAY KILL 25:23.490 --> 25:23.890 MYSELF. 25:23.890 --> 25:25.291 >> BUT I AM GLAD YOU DID 25:25.291 --> 25:25.792 THAT. 25:25.792 --> 25:26.693 >> GLAD TO MEET YOU. 25:26.693 --> 25:27.794 >> YES. 25:27.794 --> 25:29.396 >> AND GOOD LUCK. 25:29.396 --> 25:30.597 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 25:30.597 --> 25:32.599 >> WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU 25:32.599 --> 25:34.501 JOIN US IN THE STUDIO, VISIT 25:34.501 --> 25:37.504 OUR WEBSITE, KLRU/OVERHEARD 25:37.504 --> 25:40.206 TO FIND INTERVIEWS, Q AND A 25:40.206 --> 25:41.408 WITH AUDIENCE GUESTS AND 25:41.408 --> 25:43.710 ARCHIVE OF PAST EPISODES. 25:43.710 --> 26:10.470 ¶ 26:10.470 --> 26:11.371 >> FUNDING FOR OVERHEARD 26:11.371 --> 26:13.673 WITH EVAN SMITH IS SUPPORTED 26:13.673 --> 26:15.875 BY THE MATSON MCHAIL 26:15.875 --> 26:17.277 DIVISION IN SUPPORT OF 26:17.277 --> 26:19.179 PUBLIC TELEVISION, ALSO MFI 26:19.179 --> 26:20.113 FOUNDATION, IMPROVING THE 26:20.113 --> 26:21.114 QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN OUR 26:21.114 --> 26:22.015 COMMUNITY, AND FROM THE 26:22.015 --> 26:23.016 TEXAS BOARD OF LEGAL 26:23.016 --> 26:24.117 SPECIALIZATION, BOARD 26:24.117 --> 26:25.418 CERTIFIED ATTORNEYS IN YOUR 26:25.418 --> 26:27.320 COMMUNITY, EXPERIENCED, 26:27.320 --> 26:28.922 RESPECTED, AND TESTED. 26:28.922 --> 26:31.725 ALSO, BY HILLCO PARTNERS, 26:31.725 --> 26:32.726 TEXAS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 26:32.726 --> 26:35.328 CONSULTANCY, AND ITS GLOBAL 26:35.328 --> 26:36.229 HEALTH CARE CONSULTING 26:36.229 --> 26:37.731 BUSINESS UNIT, HILLCO 26:37.731 --> 26:39.632 HEALTH, AND BY THE ALICE 26:39.632 --> 26:42.736 KLEBERG REYNOLDS FOUNDATION 26:42.736 --> 26:44.137 AND VIEWERS LIKE YOU. 26:44.137 --> 26:44.637 THANK YOU. 26:44.637 --> 27:07.761 ¶ 27:07.761 --> 27:08.862 >> NEXT TIME ON OVERHEARD. 27:08.862 --> 27:11.164 >> ACTUALLY, I WENT TO DO 27:11.164 --> 27:12.766 THE MOVIE CATCH-22 WHEN I 27:12.766 --> 27:13.867 WAS A SENIOR IN COLLEGE AND 27:13.867 --> 27:15.368 NEVER CAME BACK AND CAME 27:15.368 --> 27:16.469 BACK WORKING, WHICH IS TWO 27:16.469 --> 27:17.570 COURSES, WHO CARES. 27:17.570 --> 27:18.672 MY WIFE IS PREGNANT AND SHE 27:18.672 --> 27:19.873 SAID, I THINK IT IS JUST A 27:19.873 --> 27:20.807 BAD EXAMPLE FOR OUR CHILD TO 27:20.807 --> 27:22.108 KNOW THAT YOU QUIT COLLEGE 27:22.108 --> 27:23.309 AND DIDN'T COME BACK. 27:23.309 --> 27:25.111 >> FIX THAT NOW. 27:25.111 --> 27:25.412 >> RIGHT. 27:25.412 --> 27:28.715 AND SO I DID. 27:28.715 --> 27:29.115 >> I DON'T THINK IN ANY OF 27:29.115 --> 27:30.617 THE ARTISTS EVER SIT DOWN 27:30.617 --> 27:32.819 AND SAY I THINK I WILL PAINT 27:32.819 --> 27:34.120 THIS PICTURE THIS WAY SO I 27:34.120 --> 27:38.120 WILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.