1 00:00:02,669 --> 00:00:03,036 >> FUNDING FOR OVERHEARD 2 00:00:03,036 --> 00:00:04,637 WITH EVAN SMITH IS PROVIDED 3 00:00:04,637 --> 00:00:07,741 IN PART BY THE MATSON MCHAIL 4 00:00:07,741 --> 00:00:09,342 FOUNDATION IN SUPPORT OF 5 00:00:09,342 --> 00:00:10,643 PUBLIC TELEVISION AND ALSO 6 00:00:10,643 --> 00:00:12,645 BY MFI FOUNDATION, IMPROVING 7 00:00:12,645 --> 00:00:13,646 THE QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN 8 00:00:13,646 --> 00:00:14,247 OUR COMMUNITY. 9 00:00:14,247 --> 00:00:16,049 AND FROM THE TEXAS BOARD OF 10 00:00:16,049 --> 00:00:18,351 LEGAL SPECIALIZATION, BOARD 11 00:00:18,351 --> 00:00:20,053 CERTIFIED ATTORNEYS IN YOUR 12 00:00:20,053 --> 00:00:21,287 COMMUNITY, EXPERIENCED, 13 00:00:21,287 --> 00:00:23,189 RESPECTED, AND TESTED. 14 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:25,692 ALSO, BY HILLCO PARTNERS, 15 00:00:25,692 --> 00:00:26,693 TEXAS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 16 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:29,596 CONSULTANCY AND ITS GLOBAL 17 00:00:29,596 --> 00:00:30,597 HEALTH CARE CONSULTING 18 00:00:30,597 --> 00:00:32,599 BUSINESS UNIT, HILLCO HEALTH 19 00:00:32,599 --> 00:00:35,301 AND BY THE ALICE KLEBERG 20 00:00:35,301 --> 00:00:37,804 REYNOLDS FOUNDATION AND 21 00:00:37,804 --> 00:00:39,105 VIEWERS LIKE YOU, THANK YOU. 22 00:00:39,105 --> 00:00:40,407 >> I AM EVAN SMITH, AN 23 00:00:40,407 --> 00:00:41,908 AUTHOR, ACTOR, DIRECTOR AND 24 00:00:41,908 --> 00:00:43,410 PRODUCER WHOSE FOUR DECADES 25 00:00:43,410 --> 00:00:45,512 OF CREATIVITY INCLUDES 26 00:00:45,512 --> 00:00:48,114 MIDNIGHT COWBOY, MOONRISE 27 00:00:48,114 --> 00:00:49,816 KINGDOM AND OTHER BOOK AND 28 00:00:49,816 --> 00:00:51,117 AUTHOR OF CHILDREN'S BOOKS, 29 00:00:51,117 --> 00:00:53,620 MOST RECENT WHICH THE 30 00:00:53,620 --> 00:00:54,621 CREATURE OF THE SEVENTH 31 00:00:54,621 --> 00:00:55,722 GRADE HAS BEEN PUBLISHED. 32 00:00:55,722 --> 00:01:01,761 HE IS BOB BALABAN. 33 00:01:01,761 --> 00:01:03,263 THIS IS OVERHEARD. 34 00:01:03,263 --> 00:01:04,464 >> MOST PEOPLE WANT THE SAME 35 00:01:04,464 --> 00:01:05,665 THING, THEY WANT A GOOD JOB. 36 00:01:05,665 --> 00:01:06,866 >> I REALIZED PEOPLE WEREN'T 37 00:01:06,866 --> 00:01:08,068 WRITING THINGS IN MY VOICE 38 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:10,870 SO I REALIZE I HAD TO DO IT 39 00:01:10,870 --> 00:01:11,571 FOR MYSELF. 40 00:01:11,571 --> 00:01:13,273 >> AS A KID I LOVE THIS. 41 00:01:13,273 --> 00:01:15,375 >> WE ARE A BETTER COUNTRY 42 00:01:15,375 --> 00:01:16,576 THAN WE USED TO BE BUT WE 43 00:01:16,576 --> 00:01:17,677 HAVE MORE TO DO WITH IT AND 44 00:01:17,677 --> 00:01:18,878 WE NEED TO GET AT IT. 45 00:01:18,878 --> 00:01:19,979 >> I WANT TO DO THAT AND YOU 46 00:01:19,979 --> 00:01:21,114 GET THE BUZZ YOU GET FROM 47 00:01:21,114 --> 00:01:22,716 WORKING AT THE ABSOLUTE TOP 48 00:01:22,716 --> 00:01:24,117 DOLLAR A YEAR PLACE. 49 00:01:24,117 --> 00:01:30,724 >> BOB BALABAN, WELCOME. 50 00:01:30,724 --> 00:01:33,426 VERY NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE. 51 00:01:33,426 --> 00:01:34,627 >> HELLO. 52 00:01:34,627 --> 00:01:35,729 >> CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS. 53 00:01:35,729 --> 00:01:36,129 >> THANK YOU. 54 00:01:36,129 --> 00:01:38,231 >> YOU HAVE DONE A LOT MORE 55 00:01:38,231 --> 00:01:39,432 WRITING FOR KIDS THAN MOST 56 00:01:39,432 --> 00:01:40,033 PEOPLE I KNOW. 57 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:40,934 >> I GUESS SO. 58 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:43,036 >> THE MCGROWL SERIES WHICH 59 00:01:43,036 --> 00:01:44,337 IS A FUN SERIES OF BOOKS. 60 00:01:44,337 --> 00:01:45,638 >> THANK YOU. 61 00:01:45,638 --> 00:01:46,339 >> SEVEN, 8? 62 00:01:46,339 --> 00:01:46,740 >> SIX. 63 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:47,841 >> A LOT OF THEM, NOT JUST 64 00:01:47,841 --> 00:01:48,141 ONE. 65 00:01:48,141 --> 00:01:50,443 >> I HAVE BURNED A LOT OF 66 00:01:50,443 --> 00:01:51,945 MIDNIGHT OIL AND 5 IN THE 67 00:01:51,945 --> 00:01:52,846 MORNING OIL. 68 00:01:52,846 --> 00:01:54,447 >> WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHY IN 69 00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:55,749 THE CONTEXT OF THIS AND THE 70 00:01:55,749 --> 00:01:57,150 CREATURE FROM THE SEVENTH 71 00:01:57,150 --> 00:01:58,451 GRADE WHICH IS JUST OUT, AND 72 00:01:58,451 --> 00:01:59,552 I IMAGINE IS THE FIRST OF 73 00:01:59,552 --> 00:01:59,953 FOUR. 74 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:00,553 >> OF FOUR. 75 00:02:00,553 --> 00:02:02,055 >> YES, BECAUSE I HAVE DONE 76 00:02:02,055 --> 00:02:03,757 TWO AND I AM STARTING THREE. 77 00:02:03,757 --> 00:02:04,758 >> IT'S A REAL BOOK. 78 00:02:04,758 --> 00:02:05,859 PARENTS WHO HAVE KIDS WHO 79 00:02:05,859 --> 00:02:07,560 ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS 80 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,862 BOOK, MIDDLE SCHOOL AGED, 81 00:02:08,862 --> 00:02:09,963 SAY, KIDS, MAYBE SOME 82 00:02:09,963 --> 00:02:11,464 YOUNGER, MAYBE SOME OLDER 83 00:02:11,464 --> 00:02:12,866 SHOULD KNOW IT IS NOT A BOOK 84 00:02:12,866 --> 00:02:14,367 WITH A LOT OF BIG PICTURES 85 00:02:14,367 --> 00:02:15,168 AND A FEW WORDS. 86 00:02:15,168 --> 00:02:16,169 IT IS A REAL BOOK. 87 00:02:16,169 --> 00:02:17,771 >> YES, THEY MAKE ME WRITE A 88 00:02:17,771 --> 00:02:18,772 LOT OF WORDS. 89 00:02:18,772 --> 00:02:19,873 >> IT IS A REAL STORY. 90 00:02:19,873 --> 00:02:20,807 >> I HAVE TO DO THAT. 91 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:21,508 >> AND IT IS INTERESTING 92 00:02:21,508 --> 00:02:22,709 BECAUSE THE REASON I DID MY 93 00:02:22,709 --> 00:02:24,010 FIRST BOOK -- WELL, THE 94 00:02:24,010 --> 00:02:25,612 REASON IT WORKED OUT AND I 95 00:02:25,612 --> 00:02:26,713 THINK SOMEWHAT MY PURPOSE IN 96 00:02:26,713 --> 00:02:27,714 HAVING A BOOK WITH A 97 00:02:27,714 --> 00:02:30,116 DINOSAUR ON THE COVER CALLED 98 00:02:30,116 --> 00:02:31,317 THE CREATURE FROM THE 99 00:02:31,317 --> 00:02:33,720 SEVENTH GRADE, ASIDE FROM 100 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,121 THEMATICALLY, IT IS LIKE 101 00:02:35,121 --> 00:02:35,422 ADOLESCENCE. 102 00:02:35,422 --> 00:02:37,123 YOU FEEL LIKE A CREATURE, 103 00:02:37,123 --> 00:02:38,725 BUT ALSO AS YOU PROBABLY 104 00:02:38,725 --> 00:02:40,527 KNOW, IT IS VERY HARD TO GET 105 00:02:40,527 --> 00:02:41,628 YOUNG BOYS IN THAT AGE 106 00:02:41,628 --> 00:02:43,530 BRACKET, ACTUALLY UP TO 15 107 00:02:43,530 --> 00:02:46,032 AND 16, ALTHOUGH HARRY 108 00:02:46,032 --> 00:02:48,234 POTTER HAS BEEN A FANTASTIC 109 00:02:48,234 --> 00:02:48,535 EXCEPTION. 110 00:02:48,535 --> 00:02:49,636 IT IS REALLY HARD TO GET 111 00:02:49,636 --> 00:02:50,337 PEOPLE TO READ. 112 00:02:50,337 --> 00:02:51,938 >> I HAVE A TWELVE YEAR OLD. 113 00:02:51,938 --> 00:02:52,739 >> DOES HE READ? 114 00:02:52,739 --> 00:02:53,840 >> YES, FOR INSTANCE, THIS 115 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:54,441 BOOK HE READ. 116 00:02:54,441 --> 00:02:55,842 >> HOW CAN HE NOT READ IT? 117 00:02:55,842 --> 00:02:56,943 >> RIGHT, HOW CAN HE NOT 118 00:02:56,943 --> 00:02:58,645 READ IT BUT I AM THINKING OF 119 00:02:58,645 --> 00:03:01,648 VARIOUS SERIES MEETING THAT 120 00:03:01,648 --> 00:03:03,249 AGE, WHETHER IT IS NATE THE 121 00:03:03,249 --> 00:03:05,051 GREAT, OR A DIARY OF WIMPY 122 00:03:05,051 --> 00:03:06,753 KIDS ARE LARGELY PICTURE 123 00:03:06,753 --> 00:03:09,255 BOOKS WITH WORDS, NOT REALLY 124 00:03:09,255 --> 00:03:11,057 AND YOU THINK IT'S BECAUSE 125 00:03:11,057 --> 00:03:11,958 OF WHAT? 126 00:03:11,958 --> 00:03:13,059 >> I THINK BECAUSE IT MAKES 127 00:03:13,059 --> 00:03:14,761 IT LESS FRIGHTENING FOR BOYS 128 00:03:14,761 --> 00:03:17,263 WHO ARE SLIGHTLY AFRAID TO 129 00:03:17,263 --> 00:03:18,465 READ BECAUSE IF THEY READ 130 00:03:18,465 --> 00:03:20,066 THROUGH IT, IT WON'T BE 131 00:03:20,066 --> 00:03:21,801 CHALLENGING AND I THINK IT 132 00:03:21,801 --> 00:03:23,403 IS I GOT TO READ THE WHOLE 133 00:03:23,403 --> 00:03:24,504 BOOK, BUT IF YOU TOOK OUT 134 00:03:24,504 --> 00:03:26,806 THE PICTURES, IT IS ONLY 17 135 00:03:26,806 --> 00:03:27,307 PAGES. 136 00:03:27,307 --> 00:03:28,508 >> BUT I THINK THE THEME 137 00:03:28,508 --> 00:03:29,809 THAT GOES THROUGH THIS BOOK 138 00:03:29,809 --> 00:03:31,311 WILL BE FOR THESE KIDS 139 00:03:31,311 --> 00:03:33,847 WHETHER THEY REALIZE OR NOT, 140 00:03:33,847 --> 00:03:35,648 VERY FAMILIAR, CHARLIE DRINK 141 00:03:35,648 --> 00:03:37,150 WATER IS THE PROTAGONIST, 142 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:38,351 DECATUR, ILLINOIS. 143 00:03:38,351 --> 00:03:39,753 >> MY OLD FAVORITE CITY. 144 00:03:39,753 --> 00:03:40,754 >> HE IS TO GO THROUGH 145 00:03:40,754 --> 00:03:42,155 PUBERTY, BUT INSTEAD OF 146 00:03:42,155 --> 00:03:44,057 PUBERTY, HE BEGINS TO SPROUT 147 00:03:44,057 --> 00:03:45,258 SCALES, GREEN SKIN AND HE 148 00:03:45,258 --> 00:03:45,859 TRANSFORMS. 149 00:03:45,859 --> 00:03:46,860 >> WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH MY 150 00:03:46,860 --> 00:03:47,460 EXPERIENCE. 151 00:03:47,460 --> 00:03:51,164 >> IS THAT RIGHT? 152 00:03:51,164 --> 00:03:52,265 YOU SEEMED TO HAVE GOTTEN 153 00:03:52,265 --> 00:03:53,667 OVER IT, THOUGH. 154 00:03:53,667 --> 00:03:55,268 >> I FELT LIKE IT. 155 00:03:55,268 --> 00:03:56,069 >> DO YOU ACTUALLY REMEMBER 156 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:57,270 WHAT IT WAS LIKE -- AND MY 157 00:03:57,270 --> 00:03:58,872 PARENTS WEREN'T PRUDES OR 158 00:03:58,872 --> 00:03:59,673 ANYTHING BUT THEY DIDN'T 159 00:03:59,673 --> 00:04:01,174 TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT 160 00:04:01,174 --> 00:04:03,777 ADOLESCENCE AND I REMEMBER I 161 00:04:03,777 --> 00:04:04,878 HEARD ABOUT IT AND CERTAIN 162 00:04:04,878 --> 00:04:05,879 THINGS WERE GOING TO HAPPEN 163 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:06,980 BUT YOU CAN'T IMAGINE IT 164 00:04:06,980 --> 00:04:08,081 UNTIL YOU EXPERIENCE IT. 165 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:10,183 I WOKE UP ONE MORNING AND I 166 00:04:10,183 --> 00:04:11,785 HAD HAIR UNDER MY ARM THAT I 167 00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:13,386 THOUGHT WAS 20 FEET LONG. 168 00:04:13,386 --> 00:04:14,387 WAIT A MINUTE, WHERE DID 169 00:04:14,387 --> 00:04:17,490 THIS COME FROM? 170 00:04:17,490 --> 00:04:18,792 LIKE THAT THING THEY NEVER 171 00:04:18,792 --> 00:04:20,627 TOLD ME, WHAT HAPPENED. 172 00:04:20,627 --> 00:04:22,929 I THOUGHT I WAS ABNORMAL AND 173 00:04:22,929 --> 00:04:24,030 BECOMING A GORILLA OR 174 00:04:24,030 --> 00:04:24,330 SOMETHING. 175 00:04:24,330 --> 00:04:25,231 I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS 176 00:04:25,231 --> 00:04:25,532 HAPPENING. 177 00:04:25,532 --> 00:04:26,633 SO IT WAS A NATURAL LEAP TO 178 00:04:26,633 --> 00:04:27,734 SAY, WELL, HE IS GOING 179 00:04:27,734 --> 00:04:28,635 THROUGH WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE 180 00:04:28,635 --> 00:04:29,736 DOES, EVEN THOUGH YOU FEEL 181 00:04:29,736 --> 00:04:32,138 LIKE YOU HAVE A TAIL AND 182 00:04:32,138 --> 00:04:34,341 GILL SLITS, AND HE REALLY 183 00:04:34,341 --> 00:04:35,241 DOES HAVE IT. 184 00:04:35,241 --> 00:04:37,344 >> I AM TRYING TO KNOW, OR 185 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:39,646 ASSUME, PRESUME THE VOTE 186 00:04:39,646 --> 00:04:41,047 VOCATION FOR DOING THIS. 187 00:04:41,047 --> 00:04:42,449 YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL ACTOR, 188 00:04:42,449 --> 00:04:43,450 DIRECTOR, PRODUCER. 189 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:44,751 YOU HAVE A VERY BUSY LIFE. 190 00:04:44,751 --> 00:04:46,953 YOU CAN TWO AS MUCH STUFF 191 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:47,954 LIKE THAT AS YOU WANT. 192 00:04:47,954 --> 00:04:49,255 YOU CAN DO NONE OF THIS 193 00:04:49,255 --> 00:04:50,156 STUFF. 194 00:04:50,156 --> 00:04:51,758 NOBODY WOULD COME DOWN WHY 195 00:04:51,758 --> 00:04:55,362 DOES BOB BALABAN WRITE FOR 196 00:04:55,362 --> 00:04:57,664 THESE KIDS BUT YOU HAVE 197 00:04:57,664 --> 00:04:59,366 SPENT TIME DOING THIS. 198 00:04:59,366 --> 00:04:59,866 WHY? 199 00:04:59,866 --> 00:05:01,668 >> THE UNEXAMINED LIFE. 200 00:05:01,668 --> 00:05:02,068 I DON'T KNOW. 201 00:05:02,068 --> 00:05:03,169 >> THERE IS NO MOTIVATION? 202 00:05:03,169 --> 00:05:03,970 >> THE MOTIVATION FOR THE 203 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:05,872 FIRST ONE WAS I DON'T SIT 204 00:05:05,872 --> 00:05:07,173 STILL BASICALLY AS -- YOU 205 00:05:07,173 --> 00:05:10,076 KNOW, I AM ADD-ISH AND ALSO, 206 00:05:10,076 --> 00:05:11,878 THE WHOLE REASON I STARTED 207 00:05:11,878 --> 00:05:13,480 DIVERSIFYING -- I WAS AN 208 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,382 ACTOR FOR MY WHOLE LIFE. 209 00:05:15,382 --> 00:05:16,383 I STARTED BASICALLY WHEN I 210 00:05:16,383 --> 00:05:18,785 WAS 17 OR 18 ACTING 211 00:05:18,785 --> 00:05:19,386 PROFESSIONALLY. 212 00:05:19,386 --> 00:05:20,520 I NEVER IMAGINED I WOULD 213 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:21,521 HAVE A CAREER PARTICULARLY 214 00:05:21,521 --> 00:05:23,223 BECAUSE HOW -- IT IS SO 215 00:05:23,223 --> 00:05:24,624 UNLIKELY A PERSON SUCH AS I 216 00:05:24,624 --> 00:05:26,126 WOULD BE AN ACTOR. 217 00:05:26,126 --> 00:05:26,926 >> THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO 218 00:05:26,926 --> 00:05:28,328 MAKE IT IS A SMALL 219 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:29,129 PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WHO 220 00:05:29,129 --> 00:05:30,430 WOULD LOVE TO MAKE IT, LIKE 221 00:05:30,430 --> 00:05:31,431 PRO-SPORTS. 222 00:05:31,431 --> 00:05:31,731 >> PROBABLY. 223 00:05:31,731 --> 00:05:32,632 MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE 224 00:05:32,632 --> 00:05:34,834 IT ARE MOSTLY BEING WAITERS 225 00:05:34,834 --> 00:05:36,436 AND THEY WORK EVERY ONCE IN 226 00:05:36,436 --> 00:05:36,836 A WHILE. 227 00:05:36,836 --> 00:05:38,438 THE SCREEN ACTORS GUILD HAVE 228 00:05:38,438 --> 00:05:40,040 85,000 PEOPLE IN IT AND 229 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,242 4,000 PEOPLE WORK, SO IT IS 230 00:05:42,242 --> 00:05:42,942 VERY DIFFICULT. 231 00:05:42,942 --> 00:05:45,045 I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD BE -- 232 00:05:45,045 --> 00:05:46,646 I DIDN'T EVER ACTUALLY THINK 233 00:05:46,646 --> 00:05:48,048 ABOUT HAVING A CAREER, 234 00:05:48,048 --> 00:05:49,449 HAVING A LIFE, WHAT WOULD I 235 00:05:49,449 --> 00:05:50,950 BE WHEN I GROW UP. 236 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:53,553 I PAID NO ATTENTION AND I 237 00:05:53,553 --> 00:05:55,055 WENT MOMENT BY MOMENT. 238 00:05:55,055 --> 00:05:56,356 IT IS NOT A GREAT WAY TO 239 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:57,057 LIVE. 240 00:05:57,057 --> 00:05:57,857 I DON'T RECOMMEND IT. 241 00:05:57,857 --> 00:05:59,059 >> YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE. 242 00:05:59,059 --> 00:06:00,160 >> I GUESS I AM NOT THE ONLY 243 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:00,460 ONE. 244 00:06:00,460 --> 00:06:01,761 >> AND YOU CAME AROUND IT, I 245 00:06:01,761 --> 00:06:04,864 AM GUESSING LATE '90S TO -- 246 00:06:04,864 --> 00:06:06,366 >> MY FIRST BOOK -- WELL, I 247 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:07,467 HAVE ONE SERIES OF BOOKS 248 00:06:07,467 --> 00:06:09,169 BEFORE THIS, AND THEN I 249 00:06:09,169 --> 00:06:10,270 WROTE A BOOK THAT WAS 250 00:06:10,270 --> 00:06:15,275 SUCCESSFUL, ABOUT 25 -- 35 251 00:06:15,275 --> 00:06:16,576 YEARS AGO, ACTUALLY, BY 252 00:06:16,576 --> 00:06:18,078 MISTAKE, ACTUALLY. 253 00:06:18,078 --> 00:06:20,213 WHEN I WAS 30 YEARS OLD, 254 00:06:20,213 --> 00:06:21,915 MY -- WE WERE PREGNANT, MY 255 00:06:21,915 --> 00:06:23,116 WIFE WAS PREGNANT AND I HAD 256 00:06:23,116 --> 00:06:24,417 NOT FINISHED COLLEGE BECAUSE 257 00:06:24,417 --> 00:06:25,719 I STARTED WORKING. 258 00:06:25,719 --> 00:06:26,720 ACTUALLY I LEFT TO DO THE 259 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,321 MOVIE CATCH-22 WHEN I WAS A 260 00:06:28,321 --> 00:06:29,422 SENIOR IN COLLEGE AND NEVER 261 00:06:29,422 --> 00:06:30,423 CAME BACK BECAUSE I WAS KIND 262 00:06:30,423 --> 00:06:31,624 OF WORKING AND IT WAS JUST 263 00:06:31,624 --> 00:06:33,126 TWO COURSES, TWO CARES. 264 00:06:33,126 --> 00:06:34,427 MY WIFE IS PREGNANT AND SHE 265 00:06:34,427 --> 00:06:36,229 SAID, I THINK IT'S JUST A 266 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:37,731 BAD EXAMPLE FOR OUR CHILD TO 267 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:39,132 KNOW THAT YOU QUIT COLLEGE 268 00:06:39,132 --> 00:06:41,234 AND DIDN'T COME BACK. 269 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:42,635 >> FIX THAT NOW. 270 00:06:42,635 --> 00:06:43,536 >> YEAH AND SO I DID. 271 00:06:43,536 --> 00:06:45,338 I SIGNED UP FOR TWO COURSES. 272 00:06:45,338 --> 00:06:46,973 I SIGNED UP FOR ENGLISH 273 00:06:46,973 --> 00:06:47,974 COURSE, BOTH THE CRITICAL 274 00:06:47,974 --> 00:06:49,075 THING FOR THESE COURSES IS 275 00:06:49,075 --> 00:06:50,777 YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO ATTEND 276 00:06:50,777 --> 00:06:51,678 BECAUSE I WAS WORKING AND 277 00:06:51,678 --> 00:06:52,679 AWAY ALL THE TIME. 278 00:06:52,679 --> 00:06:53,780 SO YOU PAID YOUR LOTS OF 279 00:06:53,780 --> 00:06:54,981 MONEY FOR YOUR TWO COURSES 280 00:06:54,981 --> 00:06:56,182 AND THEN YOU TOOK -- IN ONE 281 00:06:56,182 --> 00:06:57,584 CASE YOU TOOK AN EXAM FOR 282 00:06:57,584 --> 00:06:58,685 THE ENGLISH COURSE, WHICH 283 00:06:58,685 --> 00:07:00,787 WAS FINE, IT WAS EUGENE 284 00:07:00,787 --> 00:07:03,490 O'NEAL. 285 00:07:03,490 --> 00:07:05,291 I HAD READ IT ALREADY AND MY 286 00:07:05,291 --> 00:07:07,394 WIFE HAD NOTES FROM WHEN SHE 287 00:07:07,394 --> 00:07:09,095 TOOK IT AND I WAS FINE AND 288 00:07:09,095 --> 00:07:11,097 THEN A SOCIOLOGY COURSE. 289 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:11,998 IT WAS REQUIRED THAT I TAKE 290 00:07:11,998 --> 00:07:13,299 A SOCIOLOGY COURSE BUT I HAD 291 00:07:13,299 --> 00:07:14,601 TO TAKE A COURSE YOU DIDN'T 292 00:07:14,601 --> 00:07:16,102 HAVE TO GO TO SO IT WAS A 293 00:07:16,102 --> 00:07:17,003 COURSE WHERE YOU JUST WROTE 294 00:07:17,003 --> 00:07:17,604 A PAPER. 295 00:07:17,604 --> 00:07:18,805 WHAT KIND OF COURSE IS THAT? 296 00:07:18,805 --> 00:07:19,706 THEY DIDN'T TEACH YOU 297 00:07:19,706 --> 00:07:20,040 ANYTHING. 298 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,441 YOU WROTE YOUR PAPER, SPENT 299 00:07:21,441 --> 00:07:23,743 YOUR $9,000 AND THEN YOU 300 00:07:23,743 --> 00:07:24,644 GRADUATED. 301 00:07:24,644 --> 00:07:26,546 I WROTE A PAPER ABOUT SOCIAL 302 00:07:26,546 --> 00:07:27,847 STRATIFICATION ON A FILM SET 303 00:07:27,847 --> 00:07:29,549 AND THE REASON I CHOSE THAT 304 00:07:29,549 --> 00:07:31,251 IS I JUST FINISHED BEING IN 305 00:07:31,251 --> 00:07:32,852 A MOVIE, CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF 306 00:07:32,852 --> 00:07:34,054 THE THIRD KIND, AND I 307 00:07:34,054 --> 00:07:35,155 THOUGHT, WELL, YOU KNOW, 308 00:07:35,155 --> 00:07:36,756 THERE IS A LOT OF SOCIAL 309 00:07:36,756 --> 00:07:38,458 STRATIFICATION THERE AND I 310 00:07:38,458 --> 00:07:39,459 DON'T HAVE TO READ ANYTHING. 311 00:07:39,459 --> 00:07:41,461 ALL I DID WAS READ HALF A 312 00:07:41,461 --> 00:07:43,063 BOOK ON SOCIAL 313 00:07:43,063 --> 00:07:44,464 STRATIFICATION SO I KNEW THE 314 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:45,965 TERMINOLOGY AND WHIPPED UP 315 00:07:45,965 --> 00:07:47,167 MY STORIES ABOUT CLOSE 316 00:07:47,167 --> 00:07:48,868 ENCOUNTERS AND TURNED IT IN 317 00:07:48,868 --> 00:07:50,470 AND GOT AN A. 318 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:51,271 >> TELL ONE STORY. 319 00:07:51,271 --> 00:07:52,172 >> IT WAS SO BORING. 320 00:07:52,172 --> 00:07:53,673 IT WAS A PAPER I WASN'T 321 00:07:53,673 --> 00:07:54,774 ALLOWED TO BE FUNNY. 322 00:07:54,774 --> 00:07:56,276 I DIDN'T MENTION THE MOVIE. 323 00:07:56,276 --> 00:07:57,977 I CALLED IT MOVIE A AND 324 00:07:57,977 --> 00:07:59,979 CHARACTER ACTOR B, LIKE IT 325 00:07:59,979 --> 00:08:01,081 IS SO IMPORTANT THAT I HIDE 326 00:08:01,081 --> 00:08:02,182 ALL OF THIS. 327 00:08:02,182 --> 00:08:03,083 >> NOT THE NAME. 328 00:08:03,083 --> 00:08:03,583 EXACTLY. 329 00:08:03,583 --> 00:08:04,184 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS 330 00:08:04,184 --> 00:08:04,484 THINKING. 331 00:08:04,484 --> 00:08:05,485 >> NO RECOGNITION OF THE 332 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:08,588 REGULAR, LIKE... 333 00:08:08,588 --> 00:08:09,889 >> AND THERE IS A PARTY 334 00:08:09,889 --> 00:08:11,491 SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE AND 335 00:08:11,491 --> 00:08:12,392 I WAS SAYING TO FRIEND 336 00:08:12,392 --> 00:08:13,493 EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TELLING 337 00:08:13,493 --> 00:08:15,095 YOU, AND IT WAS A GOSSIP 338 00:08:15,095 --> 00:08:16,096 COLUMNIST, I DON'T REMEMBER 339 00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:17,397 WHO, AND LITERALLY THE NEXT 340 00:08:17,397 --> 00:08:18,398 DAY, SOMEBODY CALLED AND 341 00:08:18,398 --> 00:08:19,599 SAID READ THE PAPER. 342 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:20,500 THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU 343 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:21,701 IN THE COLUMN. 344 00:08:21,701 --> 00:08:23,303 I SAID WHAT DOES IT SAY. 345 00:08:23,303 --> 00:08:26,206 IT SAID BOB HAS WRITTEN A 346 00:08:26,206 --> 00:08:28,108 FABULOUS TELL-ALL BEHIND THE 347 00:08:28,108 --> 00:08:30,010 SCENES DIARY OF THE MAKING 348 00:08:30,010 --> 00:08:33,513 OF CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, THE 349 00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:34,614 GREATEST MOVIE EVER MADE, 350 00:08:34,614 --> 00:08:36,416 AND I GOT THREE CALLS FROM 351 00:08:36,416 --> 00:08:37,817 PUBLISHERS AND I SOLD THE 352 00:08:37,817 --> 00:08:38,718 BOOK, BUT I HADN'T WRITTEN 353 00:08:38,718 --> 00:08:40,720 THE BOOK AND I HAD TO 354 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:41,821 CONFESS, WELL, I DON'T HAVE 355 00:08:41,821 --> 00:08:42,222 A BOOK. 356 00:08:42,222 --> 00:08:43,323 WELL, IT IS A GOOD IDEA. 357 00:08:43,323 --> 00:08:45,225 CAN YOU WRITE IT IN A WEEK? 358 00:08:45,225 --> 00:08:46,426 I SAID HOW MUCH WILL YOU PAY 359 00:08:46,426 --> 00:08:47,827 ME AND THEY SAID AND I SAID 360 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:48,228 OKAY. 361 00:08:48,228 --> 00:08:49,629 SO THAT WAS MY FIRST. 362 00:08:49,629 --> 00:08:50,130 >> BOOK ONE. 363 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:51,531 >> COMPLETE MISTAKE. 364 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:52,632 >> SECOND BOOK IS NOW I AM 365 00:08:52,632 --> 00:08:53,533 OLDER. 366 00:08:53,533 --> 00:08:55,935 NOW I AM DIVERSIFIED AND I 367 00:08:55,935 --> 00:08:57,337 STARTED DIRECTING AND 368 00:08:57,337 --> 00:08:58,138 PRODUCING WHEN I WAS ABOUT 369 00:08:58,138 --> 00:08:59,239 35 BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, HOW 370 00:08:59,239 --> 00:09:01,141 MANY MORE TIMES CAN I BE A 371 00:09:01,141 --> 00:09:02,242 DOCTOR OR A LAWYER OR A 372 00:09:02,242 --> 00:09:04,778 PSYCHIATRIST, AND I GOT AN 373 00:09:04,778 --> 00:09:07,480 IDEA FOR TELEVISION, NO, I 374 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:08,682 GOT IDEA FOR A MOVIE, 375 00:09:08,682 --> 00:09:09,683 ACTUALLY, ABOUT A BOY AND 376 00:09:09,683 --> 00:09:11,785 HIS BIONIC DOG AND I WROTE A 377 00:09:11,785 --> 00:09:12,585 TREATMENT FOR THAT AND 378 00:09:12,585 --> 00:09:14,387 SUBMITTED IT TO SCHOLASTIC 379 00:09:14,387 --> 00:09:15,889 PUBLISHING BECAUSE THEY HAD 380 00:09:15,889 --> 00:09:16,690 A MOVIE DIVISION. 381 00:09:16,690 --> 00:09:17,691 THEY SAID WE DON'T WANT TO 382 00:09:17,691 --> 00:09:19,092 MAKE A MOVIE BUT IT IS A 383 00:09:19,092 --> 00:09:20,827 PERFECT SERIES OF KIDS BOOKS 384 00:09:20,827 --> 00:09:22,128 BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING FOR 385 00:09:22,128 --> 00:09:24,931 BOOKS FOR YOUNG BOYS THAT 386 00:09:24,931 --> 00:09:25,832 WILL BE APPEALING TO YOUNG 387 00:09:25,832 --> 00:09:27,233 BOYS AND FORCE THEM TO READ. 388 00:09:27,233 --> 00:09:28,134 >> AND IT IS EXACTLY THE 389 00:09:28,134 --> 00:09:30,136 KIND OF BOOK, WELL, IT'S NOT 390 00:09:30,136 --> 00:09:31,538 LIKE THAT, SIMPLER. 391 00:09:31,538 --> 00:09:32,739 >> IT WAS ACTUALLY SMALLER 392 00:09:32,739 --> 00:09:33,940 AND DIDN'T HAVE PICTURES, 393 00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:35,542 EITHER, SO KIND OF READING 394 00:09:35,542 --> 00:09:37,043 BOOK BUT A LITTLE BIT EASIER 395 00:09:37,043 --> 00:09:37,644 TO READ. 396 00:09:37,644 --> 00:09:39,346 >> PLOT IS, DOG IS HIT BY A 397 00:09:39,346 --> 00:09:40,146 CAR, RIGHT? 398 00:09:40,146 --> 00:09:41,448 >> YES, HOW DO YOU KNOW 399 00:09:41,448 --> 00:09:41,848 THAT? 400 00:09:41,848 --> 00:09:43,450 >> IN THE MCGROWL. 401 00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:44,451 BECAUSE I PAY ATTENTION TO 402 00:09:44,451 --> 00:09:44,751 THAT. 403 00:09:44,751 --> 00:09:45,852 >> DOG HIT BY A CAR AND THE 404 00:09:45,852 --> 00:09:47,153 OWNER MORE CONCERNED ABOUT 405 00:09:47,153 --> 00:09:48,455 WHETHER THE DOG IS GOING TO 406 00:09:48,455 --> 00:09:49,556 SURVIVE AND THEY DO THE LEE 407 00:09:49,556 --> 00:09:50,657 MAJORS ON HIM. 408 00:09:50,657 --> 00:09:52,158 >> AND A MAD SCIENTIST FIXES 409 00:09:52,158 --> 00:09:54,260 THE DOG AND THE DOG IS NOW 410 00:09:54,260 --> 00:09:55,662 FILLED WITH METAL PARTS AND 411 00:09:55,662 --> 00:09:56,763 HE COMES WITH INSTRUCTIONS 412 00:09:56,763 --> 00:09:58,164 WHEN HE COMES OUT OF THE 413 00:09:58,164 --> 00:09:59,566 HOSPITAL. 414 00:09:59,566 --> 00:10:01,267 HE IS SHAKY AND CREAKS AND 415 00:10:01,267 --> 00:10:02,569 WEIGHS 400 POUNDS EVEN 416 00:10:02,569 --> 00:10:03,570 THOUGH HE IS A LITTLE DOG 417 00:10:03,570 --> 00:10:05,071 BECAUSE HE HAS THIS STUFF IN 418 00:10:05,071 --> 00:10:07,273 IT AND IT SAYS WHEN YOU TAKE 419 00:10:07,273 --> 00:10:09,175 YOUR DOG HOME, DO THIS, DO 420 00:10:09,175 --> 00:10:10,577 THIS, DO THIS AND WHATEVER 421 00:10:10,577 --> 00:10:12,078 YOU DO, DON'T TAKE YOUR DOG 422 00:10:12,078 --> 00:10:13,279 TO A POWER PLANT. 423 00:10:13,279 --> 00:10:15,482 AND WE FIGURED THE CAT-DOG 424 00:10:15,482 --> 00:10:16,683 HATRED RELATIONSHIP AND THE 425 00:10:16,683 --> 00:10:18,084 CAT TANTALIZES THE DOG AND 426 00:10:18,084 --> 00:10:19,285 THE DOG RUNS INTO THE POWER 427 00:10:19,285 --> 00:10:19,486 PLANT. 428 00:10:19,486 --> 00:10:20,920 THE FIRST THING THE DOG GOES 429 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,322 INTO THE POWER PLANT, DON'T 430 00:10:22,322 --> 00:10:23,823 LET MY DOG -- THERE IS A 431 00:10:23,823 --> 00:10:25,025 HUGE EXPLOSION, FIZZLING, 432 00:10:25,025 --> 00:10:26,226 POPPING, ALL EXCITING 433 00:10:26,226 --> 00:10:27,327 THINGS. 434 00:10:27,327 --> 00:10:29,229 THE DOG GOES FLYING 300 FEET 435 00:10:29,229 --> 00:10:30,930 IN THE AIR AND LANDS ON ITS 436 00:10:30,930 --> 00:10:33,566 FEET AND HIS HAIR IS LIKE 437 00:10:33,566 --> 00:10:36,870 FRANKENDOG, LIKE THE BRIDE 438 00:10:36,870 --> 00:10:39,072 OF FRANKENSTEIN AND THEN AS 439 00:10:39,072 --> 00:10:39,973 HE IS COMING HOME, HE 440 00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:41,975 REALIZE HE AND THE DOG HAVE 441 00:10:41,975 --> 00:10:44,377 TELEPATHIC COMMUNICATION 442 00:10:44,377 --> 00:10:45,779 BECAUSE THE DOG HAS SUPER 443 00:10:45,779 --> 00:10:46,379 POWERS. 444 00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:47,781 I DIDN'T MEAN TO DO THAT. 445 00:10:47,781 --> 00:10:49,082 IT IS JUST MY MOVIE THAT 446 00:10:49,082 --> 00:10:50,483 DIDN'T GET MADE AND THIS I 447 00:10:50,483 --> 00:10:51,184 DID ON PURPOSE. 448 00:10:51,184 --> 00:10:52,185 >> HOW MUCH OF YOUR CAREER 449 00:10:52,185 --> 00:10:52,786 HAS BEEN DELIBERATE? 450 00:10:52,786 --> 00:10:53,987 THE CHOICES YOU MAKE ALWAYS 451 00:10:53,987 --> 00:10:55,088 SEEM SO INTERESTING, AND I 452 00:10:55,088 --> 00:10:56,389 AM CERTAIN THERE IS A METHOD 453 00:10:56,389 --> 00:10:58,191 THERE BUT YOU DON'T WORK 454 00:10:58,191 --> 00:10:58,892 BECAUSE YOU NEED THE MONEY, 455 00:10:58,892 --> 00:11:00,193 OR AT LEAST THAT'S NOT HOW 456 00:11:00,193 --> 00:11:01,294 IT APPEARS. 457 00:11:01,294 --> 00:11:02,395 YOU CHOOSE INTERESTING 458 00:11:02,395 --> 00:11:03,196 THINGS TO DO. 459 00:11:03,196 --> 00:11:04,397 THAT'S MY OBSERVATION. 460 00:11:04,397 --> 00:11:06,199 >> MOST THINGS I DO, YOU 461 00:11:06,199 --> 00:11:07,500 DON'T GET PAID FOR 462 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:08,601 PARTICULARLY, LIKE 463 00:11:08,601 --> 00:11:09,703 INDEPENDENT MOVIES. 464 00:11:09,703 --> 00:11:10,403 >> LABOR OF LOVE. 465 00:11:10,403 --> 00:11:12,205 >> I ACTUALLY THINK -- I 466 00:11:12,205 --> 00:11:14,107 DON'T THINK TOO MUCH THAT 467 00:11:14,107 --> 00:11:15,008 CAN BE TRUE. 468 00:11:15,008 --> 00:11:16,209 I DON'T THINK REALLY IN ANY 469 00:11:16,209 --> 00:11:17,610 OF THE ARTS YOU EVER SIT 470 00:11:17,610 --> 00:11:19,212 DOWN AND GO, I THINK I WILL 471 00:11:19,212 --> 00:11:20,347 PAINT MY PICTURES THIS WAY 472 00:11:20,347 --> 00:11:21,548 SO I WILL MAKE A LOT OF 473 00:11:21,548 --> 00:11:21,848 MONEY. 474 00:11:21,848 --> 00:11:23,350 >> YOU DON'T THINK THERE ARE 475 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:25,051 DIRECTORS WHO THINK ONE MORE 476 00:11:25,051 --> 00:11:26,353 ME, ONE FOR THEM AND I WILL 477 00:11:26,353 --> 00:11:27,554 MAKE THIS ART AND -- 478 00:11:27,554 --> 00:11:30,557 >> YES, BARRY LIVINGSTON, 479 00:11:30,557 --> 00:11:31,458 WHO IS A FRIEND OF MINE, AND 480 00:11:31,458 --> 00:11:33,059 I LOVE HIM, IF YOU LOOK AT 481 00:11:33,059 --> 00:11:34,661 HIS CAREER, THERE IS A 482 00:11:34,661 --> 00:11:35,862 BALTIMORE MOVIE AND THEN 483 00:11:35,862 --> 00:11:36,663 THERE IS A MOVIE. 484 00:11:36,663 --> 00:11:38,264 IN MY CASE, I BASICALLY -- I 485 00:11:38,264 --> 00:11:39,766 AM SORT OF SELF-SELECTING. 486 00:11:39,766 --> 00:11:41,668 I SENT MOVIES TO DIRECT 487 00:11:41,668 --> 00:11:43,370 EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THAT 488 00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:44,671 ARE SO GENERIC AND SO 489 00:11:44,671 --> 00:11:45,972 HORRIFYING AND I WOULD 490 00:11:45,972 --> 00:11:46,873 POSSIBLY DO THEM BECAUSE I 491 00:11:46,873 --> 00:11:48,775 DID DO ONE OF THOSE MOVIES 492 00:11:48,775 --> 00:11:50,977 IN 15 OR -- WHEN I WAS HERE 493 00:11:50,977 --> 00:11:52,278 IN AUSTIN, TEXAS, BUT I 494 00:11:52,278 --> 00:11:55,482 FOUND THAT IT WAS SO FOR ME 495 00:11:55,482 --> 00:11:56,583 I COULDN'T DO IT. 496 00:11:56,583 --> 00:11:57,984 IT TOOK ME A YEAR TO 497 00:11:57,984 --> 00:11:58,585 RECOVER. 498 00:11:58,585 --> 00:11:59,185 >> NO FUN. 499 00:11:59,185 --> 00:12:00,787 >> DOING THINGS I THOUGHT 500 00:12:00,787 --> 00:12:01,588 THAT IS NOT FUNNY. 501 00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:02,288 I HATE THAT. 502 00:12:02,288 --> 00:12:03,189 WHY COULDN'T I MOVE THE 503 00:12:03,189 --> 00:12:04,891 CAMERA, WHY COULDN'T WE CAST 504 00:12:04,891 --> 00:12:05,291 THIS PERSON. 505 00:12:05,291 --> 00:12:07,193 WE WERE CASTING AN OLDER 506 00:12:07,193 --> 00:12:09,596 ACTRESS WHO IS A GENIUS AND 507 00:12:09,596 --> 00:12:10,897 I WON'T REVEAL HER NAME TO 508 00:12:10,897 --> 00:12:12,499 YOU, ALTHOUGH SHE WILL KNOW. 509 00:12:12,499 --> 00:12:13,299 SHE WON AN ACADEMY AWARD. 510 00:12:13,299 --> 00:12:14,601 SHE IS A GENIUS. 511 00:12:14,601 --> 00:12:16,202 WE WOULD BE LUCKY. 512 00:12:16,202 --> 00:12:17,504 SHE WANTED TO BE IN OUR 513 00:12:17,504 --> 00:12:20,073 MOVIE AND THEY CALLED AND 514 00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:23,543 SAID I THINK SHE HAS LIVER 515 00:12:23,543 --> 00:12:24,844 SPOTS ON HER ARM, AND I SAID 516 00:12:24,844 --> 00:12:26,046 THAT'S OKAY, SHE IS PLAYING 517 00:12:26,046 --> 00:12:27,747 90 YEARS OLD. 518 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:29,049 AND THEY SAID, WE DON'T WANT 519 00:12:29,049 --> 00:12:31,051 ACTORS WITH LIVER SPOTS ON 520 00:12:31,051 --> 00:12:32,252 THEIR ARMS, AND I SAID, WHO 521 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:33,853 CARES, I NEVER NOTICE LIVER 522 00:12:33,853 --> 00:12:34,354 SPOTS. 523 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:36,256 >> WHEN I HEAR THAT, I THINK 524 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:38,358 HOLLYWOOD IS AS BAD AS IT 525 00:12:38,358 --> 00:12:38,758 CAN BE. 526 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:39,359 >> YES. 527 00:12:39,359 --> 00:12:41,361 NOT THAT IT CAN BE AND 528 00:12:41,361 --> 00:12:41,861 EVERYTHING ELSE. 529 00:12:41,861 --> 00:12:42,762 >> AND BECAUSE -- 530 00:12:42,762 --> 00:12:43,963 >> BECAUSE I LIKE THEM 531 00:12:43,963 --> 00:12:45,865 DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE GOOD. 532 00:12:45,865 --> 00:12:47,667 >> IT IS INTERESTING TO YOU 533 00:12:47,667 --> 00:12:49,169 OR A PROJECT THAT APPEALS TO 534 00:12:49,169 --> 00:12:49,769 YOU. 535 00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:50,870 >> IT IS INTERESTING TO ME. 536 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:52,472 >> SO LET'S TALK ABOUT -- 537 00:12:52,472 --> 00:12:53,673 YOU PRODUCED GOSFORD PARK. 538 00:12:53,673 --> 00:12:55,575 >> I SORT OF GENERATED, NOT 539 00:12:55,575 --> 00:12:56,376 CREATED. 540 00:12:56,376 --> 00:12:58,578 >> ROBERT ALTMAN. 541 00:12:58,578 --> 00:13:00,180 >> HE IS A FRIEND OF MINE. 542 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:01,381 >> WOULD NOT KILL, NOT BE 543 00:13:01,381 --> 00:13:03,183 PAID, A MOP-UP TO WORK WITH 544 00:13:03,183 --> 00:13:06,686 ROBERT ALTMAN AND THE LATE 545 00:13:06,686 --> 00:13:08,488 LAMENTED DEAR DEPARTED 546 00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:13,893 ROBERT ALTMAN. 547 00:13:13,893 --> 00:13:15,895 >> I MET HIM WHEN I WAS 23 548 00:13:15,895 --> 00:13:18,098 OR 24 YEARS OLD FOR BREWSTER 549 00:13:18,098 --> 00:13:19,399 MCCLOUD. 550 00:13:19,399 --> 00:13:21,234 I DIDN'T GET THE PART BUT I 551 00:13:21,234 --> 00:13:21,835 MET HIM. 552 00:13:21,835 --> 00:13:23,336 >> IT IS A WONDERFUL MOVIE. 553 00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:24,838 >> YES, I THINK IT'S GREAT 554 00:13:24,838 --> 00:13:26,139 AND ROBERT WAS WILDLY 555 00:13:26,139 --> 00:13:32,045 INCLUSIVE IN HIS -- IN HIS 556 00:13:32,045 --> 00:13:33,046 BEING WITH ACTORS. 557 00:13:33,046 --> 00:13:35,048 I WENT TO SCREENINGS WITH 558 00:13:35,048 --> 00:13:38,251 MANY OF HIS MOVIES LIKE WITH 559 00:13:38,251 --> 00:13:39,352 MANY PEOPLE WHERE HE WOULD 560 00:13:39,352 --> 00:13:40,653 SAY WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT 561 00:13:40,653 --> 00:13:41,054 THAT. 562 00:13:41,054 --> 00:13:42,655 DID YOU LIKE IT, BUT BOB ON 563 00:13:42,655 --> 00:13:44,357 THE SET WILL GO TO CRAFT 564 00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:45,859 SERVICES AND SAY, YOU AREN'T 565 00:13:45,859 --> 00:13:47,260 COMING TO THE MOVIE, WHAT'S 566 00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:48,261 WRONG, YOU DON'T LIKE THE 567 00:13:48,261 --> 00:13:48,862 MOVIE. 568 00:13:48,862 --> 00:13:49,662 >> VERY GENEROUS. 569 00:13:49,662 --> 00:13:50,964 >> AND INSANELY SECURE ABOUT 570 00:13:50,964 --> 00:13:51,965 HIS WORK, ALSO. 571 00:13:51,965 --> 00:13:53,466 AND TRUTHFULLY, IF YOU CAN 572 00:13:53,466 --> 00:13:55,368 BE A COMMUNIST FILMMAKER, HE 573 00:13:55,368 --> 00:13:57,170 WAS A COMMUNIST FILMMAKER. 574 00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:58,772 >> VERY LATE IN HIS CAREER 575 00:13:58,772 --> 00:14:00,206 THAT FILM, RIGHT? 576 00:14:00,206 --> 00:14:03,309 >> WELL, YEAH, WHEN HE WAS 577 00:14:03,309 --> 00:14:06,212 82, YES, THE LAST FIVE, SIX 578 00:14:06,212 --> 00:14:06,913 YEARS. 579 00:14:06,913 --> 00:14:07,614 >> BUT THE FILM IS 580 00:14:07,614 --> 00:14:08,214 FANTASTIC. 581 00:14:08,214 --> 00:14:09,115 IN SO MANY WAYS IT IS 582 00:14:09,115 --> 00:14:14,821 PERFECT AS AN ALTMAN FILM. 583 00:14:14,821 --> 00:14:16,322 IT FITS PERFECTLY. 584 00:14:16,322 --> 00:14:17,424 >> WELL, SOMEBODY SAID I 585 00:14:17,424 --> 00:14:18,725 THINK IN HIS MEMORIAL 586 00:14:18,725 --> 00:14:19,526 SERVICE WHICH WAS BEAUTIFUL, 587 00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:21,461 ROBERT MADE ONE LONG MOVIE. 588 00:14:21,461 --> 00:14:22,862 HE DIDN'T LIKE THEM TO END. 589 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:24,264 HE ALWAYS HAD A LOT OF 590 00:14:24,264 --> 00:14:26,466 PEOPLE TALKING A LOT OF THE 591 00:14:26,466 --> 00:14:28,068 TIME, LIKE A FAMILY FOR HIM. 592 00:14:28,068 --> 00:14:30,170 NO MATTER HOW YOU READ IT ON 593 00:14:30,170 --> 00:14:32,872 PAPER, THERE WERE GOING TO 594 00:14:32,872 --> 00:14:34,674 BE SCENES OF 28 PEOPLE 595 00:14:34,674 --> 00:14:35,075 TALKING. 596 00:14:35,075 --> 00:14:37,977 I HAVE BEEN ON THE SCENE 597 00:14:37,977 --> 00:14:39,779 WITH 28 PEOPLE TALKING BUT 598 00:14:39,779 --> 00:14:41,481 BOB LIKED THE NOISE, HE 599 00:14:41,481 --> 00:14:42,682 LIKED THE COMPETITION FOR 600 00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:43,383 WHO IS GOING TO HAVE THE 601 00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:44,184 STAGE RIGHT NOW. 602 00:14:44,184 --> 00:14:45,185 HE LOVED THAT. 603 00:14:45,185 --> 00:14:46,886 >> WE MENTIONED MOONRISE 604 00:14:46,886 --> 00:14:47,487 KINGDOM. 605 00:14:47,487 --> 00:14:48,688 >> YES. 606 00:14:48,688 --> 00:14:50,090 >> WES ANDERSON, IN SOME 607 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:52,392 WAYS LIKE ALTMAN CREATES 608 00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:54,394 THIS VERY PERFECT WORLD. 609 00:14:54,394 --> 00:14:56,596 YOU CAN PASS BY A FILM 610 00:14:56,596 --> 00:14:57,897 SCREEN WITH WES ANDERSON 611 00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,799 FILM TRAILER ON IT AND 612 00:14:59,799 --> 00:15:01,901 WITHOUT SEEING WHO IS IN IT 613 00:15:01,901 --> 00:15:04,804 OR WHAT, THAT IT IS WES. 614 00:15:04,804 --> 00:15:05,905 >> I CAN'T THINK OF A 615 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:08,908 FILMMAKER LIKE THAT THAT HAS 616 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:09,909 PEOPLE WEARING THE SAME 617 00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:11,711 COSTUMES IN ALL PERIODS AND 618 00:15:11,711 --> 00:15:13,813 SAME MOVIES AND THEY AREN'T 619 00:15:13,813 --> 00:15:15,415 EXACTLY THE SAME BUT HIS 620 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:16,516 POINT OF VIEW -- THE REASON 621 00:15:16,516 --> 00:15:17,717 YOU BOUGHT IT IN A WES 622 00:15:17,717 --> 00:15:19,219 ANDERSON MOVIE AND I THOUGHT 623 00:15:19,219 --> 00:15:20,353 IT WORKED REALLY GOOD IN 624 00:15:20,353 --> 00:15:22,155 MOONRISE KINGDOM BECAUSE I 625 00:15:22,155 --> 00:15:23,456 THOUGHT IT LOOKS SO 626 00:15:23,456 --> 00:15:25,258 ARTIFICIAL IN A WAY AND IT'S 627 00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:28,862 SO EMOTIONAL AND SO POWERFUL 628 00:15:28,862 --> 00:15:30,764 AND VISCERAL THAT THE 629 00:15:30,764 --> 00:15:31,965 TENSION BETWEEN THE TWO I 630 00:15:31,965 --> 00:15:32,866 THOUGHT WAS BRILLIANT. 631 00:15:32,866 --> 00:15:33,667 I LOVED THAT. 632 00:15:33,667 --> 00:15:34,968 >> AND GETS SUCH GREAT WORK 633 00:15:34,968 --> 00:15:36,169 OUT OF ITS ACTORS. 634 00:15:36,169 --> 00:15:39,472 ALL OF THE FILMS, RUSHMORE, 635 00:15:39,472 --> 00:15:42,976 AND EVEN STEVE ZISSOU, WHICH 636 00:15:42,976 --> 00:15:44,878 I PERSONALLY DIDN'T LIKE AS 637 00:15:44,878 --> 00:15:45,278 MUCH. 638 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,080 BUT ALL OF THOSE ARE SO 639 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,281 AMAZING HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO 640 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:49,082 CONJURE UP. 641 00:15:49,082 --> 00:15:49,883 THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU 642 00:15:49,883 --> 00:15:50,583 WORKED WITH HIM? 643 00:15:50,583 --> 00:15:51,985 >> I KNEW HIM SLIGHTLY BUT 644 00:15:51,985 --> 00:15:53,086 THE FIRST TIME, YES. 645 00:15:53,086 --> 00:15:54,087 >> DOES HE HAVE HESITATION 646 00:15:54,087 --> 00:15:54,587 AT ALL? 647 00:15:54,587 --> 00:15:56,790 >> HESITATION, GOD NO. 648 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:57,891 >> SORT OF LIKE WHAT PEOPLE 649 00:15:57,891 --> 00:15:59,993 SAY ABOUT WOODY ALLEN, OH MY 650 00:15:59,993 --> 00:16:00,994 GOD I GOT THE CALL. 651 00:16:00,994 --> 00:16:03,596 >> I AM DOING WES ANDERSON'S 652 00:16:03,596 --> 00:16:04,297 NEXT MOVIE. 653 00:16:04,297 --> 00:16:05,198 I DON'T KNOW WHAT I AM DOING 654 00:16:05,198 --> 00:16:05,799 OR THE NAME. 655 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:07,100 >> A WEIRD MYSTIQUE. 656 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:08,401 >> I HAVE NO IDEA. 657 00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:10,003 >> WHY DID YOU GO INTO THE 658 00:16:10,003 --> 00:16:11,604 BUSINESS TO BEGIN WITH? 659 00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:13,506 YOU SAID YOU STARTED ACTING 660 00:16:13,506 --> 00:16:15,008 WHEN, WHAT, 17? 661 00:16:15,008 --> 00:16:18,411 >> YES, I WAS A CAPTAINEER 662 00:16:18,411 --> 00:16:21,147 WHEN I WAS 3 YEARS OLD. 663 00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:22,449 WELL MY FAMILY COMES FROM 664 00:16:22,449 --> 00:16:23,249 THE SHOW BUSINESS, 665 00:16:23,249 --> 00:16:23,850 BASICALLY. 666 00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:24,951 >> TALK ABOUT THAT. 667 00:16:24,951 --> 00:16:27,954 >> MY DAD WAS BORN IN 1908, 668 00:16:27,954 --> 00:16:29,956 THE YOUNGEST OF -- FEW OF 669 00:16:29,956 --> 00:16:31,558 THE KIDS DIED SO PROBABLY 670 00:16:31,558 --> 00:16:33,159 YOUNGEST OF 11 KIDS ON A 671 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:34,461 STREET CALLED MAXWELL STREET 672 00:16:34,461 --> 00:16:35,662 IN CHICAGO WHICH IS LOWEST 673 00:16:35,662 --> 00:16:38,465 EAST SIDE JEWISH GHETTO OF 674 00:16:38,465 --> 00:16:40,867 CHICAGO, AND BENNY GOODMAN, 675 00:16:40,867 --> 00:16:44,270 JACK RUBY, ARTHUR, FIRST 676 00:16:44,270 --> 00:16:46,072 JEWISH MEMBER OF THE SUPREME 677 00:16:46,072 --> 00:16:49,976 COURT, ARTHUR GOLDBERG, BILL 678 00:16:49,976 --> 00:16:51,378 PALEY, ALL OF THESE PEOPLE 679 00:16:51,378 --> 00:16:53,580 LIVED IN ABJECT PROPERTY IN 680 00:16:53,580 --> 00:16:54,881 THE LOWER WEST SIDE OF 681 00:16:54,881 --> 00:16:55,982 CHICAGO AND HIS MOTHER 682 00:16:55,982 --> 00:16:57,884 WALKED INTO A NICKELODEON IN 683 00:16:57,884 --> 00:16:59,786 1980 AND WERE IN THE GROCERY 684 00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:00,887 BUSINESS AND THEY WERE 685 00:17:00,887 --> 00:17:02,789 FAILING AND DOING VERY, VERY 686 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:04,591 BADLY BECAUSE MY GRANDFATHER 687 00:17:04,591 --> 00:17:07,394 WAS A KIND, SWEET MAN AND 688 00:17:07,394 --> 00:17:08,495 EVERYBODY BOUGHT ON CREDIT 689 00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:12,098 AND HE WOULD NEVER GO 690 00:17:12,098 --> 00:17:12,799 COLLECT MONEY AT THE END OF 691 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:14,300 THE MONTH BECAUSE HE WAS TOO 692 00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:16,403 GUILTY TO DO THAT, AND THEY 693 00:17:16,403 --> 00:17:21,241 BARELY HAD REFRIGERATION AND 694 00:17:21,241 --> 00:17:23,243 EVERY VEGETABLE WOULD GO 695 00:17:23,243 --> 00:17:23,443 BAD. 696 00:17:23,443 --> 00:17:24,944 AND SHE WENT TO NICKELODEON 697 00:17:24,944 --> 00:17:26,246 AND THE OLDER BROTHER CAME 698 00:17:26,246 --> 00:17:28,148 WITH HER AND SHE WENT HOME 699 00:17:28,148 --> 00:17:29,849 SAID, BOYS, IT IS THE 700 00:17:29,849 --> 00:17:30,750 BUSINESS OF THE FUTURE WE 701 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:31,951 ARE GOING IN THE MOVIE 702 00:17:31,951 --> 00:17:33,253 BUSINESS OF 1908. 703 00:17:33,253 --> 00:17:34,154 >> SHE THOUGHT -- 704 00:17:34,154 --> 00:17:34,954 >> SHE SAID THERE IS NO 705 00:17:34,954 --> 00:17:35,355 WASTE. 706 00:17:35,355 --> 00:17:37,991 >> -- NOTHING TO THROW AWAY. 707 00:17:37,991 --> 00:17:39,893 >> NOTHING TO THROW AWAY. 708 00:17:39,893 --> 00:17:41,094 >> YOU SEND IT BACK, GET A 709 00:17:41,094 --> 00:17:41,695 NEW ONE. 710 00:17:41,695 --> 00:17:42,595 >> BRAND NEW, AND I DON'T 711 00:17:42,595 --> 00:17:43,997 CARE WHAT YOUR FATHER DOES. 712 00:17:43,997 --> 00:17:45,198 YOU'VE GOT TO PAY WHEN YOU 713 00:17:45,198 --> 00:17:45,899 COME IN. 714 00:17:45,899 --> 00:17:46,900 IT'S A NICKEL. 715 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:47,901 IT IS CALLED NICKELODEN. 716 00:17:47,901 --> 00:17:53,306 YOU HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE 717 00:17:53,306 --> 00:17:53,707 YOU GO. 718 00:17:53,707 --> 00:17:57,210 THEY DID THAT. 719 00:17:57,210 --> 00:17:59,312 25 YEARS LATER, THEY HAVE 75 720 00:17:59,312 --> 00:18:03,416 PICTURE ALBUMS THERE AND 721 00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:06,019 THEN THEY WENT ON BALLAD -- 722 00:18:06,019 --> 00:18:08,321 MY DAD'S OLDEST BROTHER WENT 723 00:18:08,321 --> 00:18:10,123 TO RUN PARAMOUNT FOR 35 724 00:18:10,123 --> 00:18:10,423 YEARS. 725 00:18:10,423 --> 00:18:11,424 AND THEN SAM KATZ, WHO HAS 726 00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:13,326 BEEN MARRIED TO MY FATHER'S 727 00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:14,728 SISTER, SHE DIED AND MOVED 728 00:18:14,728 --> 00:18:16,930 TO CALIFORNIA AND RAN RKO 729 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:18,031 FOR A WHILE AND STARTED 730 00:18:18,031 --> 00:18:20,533 MUSICAL DIVISION AT MGM AND 731 00:18:20,533 --> 00:18:23,036 HIRED ARTHUR FREED AND HAD 732 00:18:23,036 --> 00:18:25,238 FRED ASTAIRE AND GENE KELLY 733 00:18:25,238 --> 00:18:26,539 MOVIE AND SINGING IN THE 734 00:18:26,539 --> 00:18:28,141 RAIN AND WIZARD OF OZ AND 735 00:18:28,141 --> 00:18:28,641 STUFF. 736 00:18:28,641 --> 00:18:29,743 >> IT IS A FAMILY BUSINESS. 737 00:18:29,743 --> 00:18:31,044 >> YES, AND THEY WERE SO 738 00:18:31,044 --> 00:18:31,444 OLD. 739 00:18:31,444 --> 00:18:32,846 I VAGUELY KNEW ABOUT THEM 740 00:18:32,846 --> 00:18:34,547 AND I DIDN'T GROW UP IN THE 741 00:18:34,547 --> 00:18:35,949 MOVIE BUSINESS. 742 00:18:35,949 --> 00:18:37,450 IT WAS SOMEWHAT IN MY BLOOD. 743 00:18:37,450 --> 00:18:39,052 MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN MY 744 00:18:39,052 --> 00:18:40,453 FAMILY DIDN'T GET INTO IT 745 00:18:40,453 --> 00:18:41,654 BUT I ALWAYS WANTED TO DO 746 00:18:41,654 --> 00:18:43,556 SOMETHING ABOUT TELLING 747 00:18:43,556 --> 00:18:45,759 STORIES AND I NEVER, EVER, 748 00:18:45,759 --> 00:18:47,260 LIKE LOOK FORWARD TO AN HOUR 749 00:18:47,260 --> 00:18:48,762 AND A HALF, LIKE WHO IS 750 00:18:48,762 --> 00:18:50,063 GOING TO GO TO MY NEXT 751 00:18:50,063 --> 00:18:51,965 PUPPET SHOW, THAT IS AS FAR 752 00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:53,466 AS I COULD SEE IN THE FUTURE 753 00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:53,967 OF THAT. 754 00:18:53,967 --> 00:18:55,969 I WORKED AT A VERY YOUNG AGE 755 00:18:55,969 --> 00:18:56,870 AND ALWAYS CONTINUED TO 756 00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:57,470 WORK. 757 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:58,471 >> DID YOU ALWAYS IMAGINE 758 00:18:58,471 --> 00:18:59,773 YOUR CAREER WOULD BE THIS? 759 00:18:59,773 --> 00:19:00,573 >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS 760 00:19:00,573 --> 00:19:02,275 FRANKLY, BUT YOU WILL HAVE 761 00:19:02,275 --> 00:19:03,176 TO TELL ME. 762 00:19:03,176 --> 00:19:04,978 >> WHAT IS THE BEST WAY -- 763 00:19:04,978 --> 00:19:06,479 IS MIDNIGHT COWBOY BEFORE 764 00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:07,881 CAST AWAY? 765 00:19:07,881 --> 00:19:08,481 >> THE SAME. 766 00:19:08,481 --> 00:19:11,484 >> CAME OUT IN '69. 767 00:19:11,484 --> 00:19:13,086 >> YES, I WAS A SENIOR IN 768 00:19:13,086 --> 00:19:13,486 COLLEGE. 769 00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:14,487 >> YOU ARE LOOKING AT 45 770 00:19:14,487 --> 00:19:15,989 YEARS DOING THIS? 771 00:19:15,989 --> 00:19:17,290 >> YES. 772 00:19:17,290 --> 00:19:18,191 >> CAN WE EAT THIS TIME AND 773 00:19:18,191 --> 00:19:19,092 GET IT BACK. 774 00:19:19,092 --> 00:19:20,126 >> MR. MCGROWL. 775 00:19:20,126 --> 00:19:22,929 >> I AM ON A TIGHTROPE. 776 00:19:22,929 --> 00:19:24,230 IF YOU TELL ME THIS, I WILL 777 00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:25,031 FALL OFF. 778 00:19:25,031 --> 00:19:26,833 >> WHAT IS AMAZING IS YOUR 779 00:19:26,833 --> 00:19:28,535 CAREER AS OUTSIDE OBSERVER 780 00:19:28,535 --> 00:19:29,436 IS SO CONSISTENT. 781 00:19:29,436 --> 00:19:30,637 YOU WORKED CONSISTENTLY AND 782 00:19:30,637 --> 00:19:31,838 YOU HAVE MADE CHOICES YOU 783 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:33,840 WANT TO MAKE AND I THINK IN 784 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,541 SOME WAYS THE CHRISTOPHER 785 00:19:34,541 --> 00:19:37,243 GUEST FILMS, WHICH WE 786 00:19:37,243 --> 00:19:38,845 HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT, BUT WE 787 00:19:38,845 --> 00:19:40,246 WILL, WHAT A WONDERFUL THING 788 00:19:40,246 --> 00:19:41,848 TO BE DOING WITH THIS, THAT, 789 00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:42,749 THE OTHER. 790 00:19:42,749 --> 00:19:44,050 >> SO WONDERFUL AND FUN. 791 00:19:44,050 --> 00:19:45,452 >> ARE THEY AS FUN AS THEY 792 00:19:45,452 --> 00:19:47,654 APPEAR TO BE? 793 00:19:47,654 --> 00:19:48,254 >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. 794 00:19:48,254 --> 00:19:50,256 THE MOST FOUND FOR ME WAS 795 00:19:50,256 --> 00:19:51,458 THE FIRST ONE, BECAUSE I 796 00:19:51,458 --> 00:19:52,559 NEVER KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT 797 00:19:52,559 --> 00:19:53,059 IT. 798 00:19:53,059 --> 00:19:54,361 COMING TO THIS MOVIE. 799 00:19:54,361 --> 00:19:56,363 >> WAITING FOR GUFFMAN. 800 00:19:56,363 --> 00:19:58,164 >> YES, WAITING FOR GUFFMAN 801 00:19:58,164 --> 00:19:59,766 AND YOU SEE AN OUTLINE AND 802 00:19:59,766 --> 00:20:00,367 THAT IS IT. 803 00:20:00,367 --> 00:20:02,469 >> THE RUMORS ABOUT HOW THEY 804 00:20:02,469 --> 00:20:03,403 COME TOGETHER IS TRUE. 805 00:20:03,403 --> 00:20:04,804 >> YES, THE RUMOR IS TRUE. 806 00:20:04,804 --> 00:20:05,705 >> BASICALLY WE HAVE A 807 00:20:05,705 --> 00:20:06,906 SKETCH OF WHAT WE THINK WE 808 00:20:06,906 --> 00:20:08,308 ARE GOING TO DO BUT WE HAVE 809 00:20:08,308 --> 00:20:09,509 NOTHING SPECIFIC, THOUGH. 810 00:20:09,509 --> 00:20:10,710 >> YES, WELL, THEY HAVE 811 00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:12,012 SPECIFIC IN THAT THIS IS THE 812 00:20:12,012 --> 00:20:12,512 FIRST SCENE. 813 00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:13,713 YOU ARE GOING TO DISCUSS THE 814 00:20:13,713 --> 00:20:15,415 FACT THAT GUFFMAN IS GOING 815 00:20:15,415 --> 00:20:16,716 TO COME IN AT THE END OF THE 816 00:20:16,716 --> 00:20:18,018 MOVIE, THIS IS WHERE WE 817 00:20:18,018 --> 00:20:19,119 REHEARSE AND DO THAT. 818 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,253 >> BUT ONLY AS SPECIFIC AS 819 00:20:20,253 --> 00:20:21,354 THINGS ESSENTIALLY THAT MOVE 820 00:20:21,354 --> 00:20:22,856 THE PLOT ALONG BUT THE 821 00:20:22,856 --> 00:20:24,057 DETAILS, GUTS OF IT, THE 822 00:20:24,057 --> 00:20:25,158 LINES -- 823 00:20:25,158 --> 00:20:26,059 >> OH,YEAH. 824 00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:26,960 >> YOU FILL IT IN. 825 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,861 >> AND YOU SHOOT A 826 00:20:27,861 --> 00:20:29,262 TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF THINGS 827 00:20:29,262 --> 00:20:30,163 WHICH DON'T END UP IN THE 828 00:20:30,163 --> 00:20:32,165 MOVIE WHICH IS AMAZING FOR 829 00:20:32,165 --> 00:20:32,866 SEVERAL REASONS. 830 00:20:32,866 --> 00:20:34,267 WE IN THE MOVIE, WHEN YOU 831 00:20:34,267 --> 00:20:35,969 SEE THE MOVIE LIKE WAITING 832 00:20:35,969 --> 00:20:37,270 FOR GUFFMAN IN THE 833 00:20:37,270 --> 00:20:39,372 BEGINNING, WE WOULD SEE THE 834 00:20:39,372 --> 00:20:40,573 MOVIE AND CALL EACH OTHER 835 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:42,776 AND SAY, I AM SO SAD BECAUSE 836 00:20:42,776 --> 00:20:44,577 ALL OF OUR PARTS WERE GONE. 837 00:20:44,577 --> 00:20:46,079 >> YOUR GRANDMOTHER WOULD 838 00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:46,579 HATE IT. 839 00:20:46,579 --> 00:20:49,783 >> LOOK HOW MUCH WASTE THERE 840 00:20:49,783 --> 00:20:50,183 IS. 841 00:20:50,183 --> 00:20:52,385 >> I AM AMAZED IN THE ERA WE 842 00:20:52,385 --> 00:20:53,787 LIVE IN, WHERE THERE IS 843 00:20:53,787 --> 00:20:55,088 EXTRAS ON DVDS. 844 00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:57,390 >> WE HAVE EXTRAS BUT HE 845 00:20:57,390 --> 00:20:58,992 DOESN'T PUT IT. 846 00:20:58,992 --> 00:21:00,093 >> IT WOULD BE AMAZING IF 847 00:21:00,093 --> 00:21:01,294 THEY RELEASED THE STUFF. 848 00:21:01,294 --> 00:21:02,495 >> TWO THINGS, YOU HAVE TO 849 00:21:02,495 --> 00:21:02,896 CUT THEM. 850 00:21:02,896 --> 00:21:04,898 YOU CAN'T SHOW THE FOOTAGE 851 00:21:04,898 --> 00:21:05,198 RAW. 852 00:21:05,198 --> 00:21:06,399 IT REQUIRES A LOT OF ENERGY 853 00:21:06,399 --> 00:21:07,701 TO CUT AND THERE IS A LOT OF 854 00:21:07,701 --> 00:21:10,203 UNBELIEVABLE BORING STUFF IN 855 00:21:10,203 --> 00:21:12,005 OUTTAKES BECAUSE WE ARE NOT 856 00:21:12,005 --> 00:21:13,206 ENCOURAGED TO BE FUNNY. 857 00:21:13,206 --> 00:21:14,107 IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE IT IS 858 00:21:14,107 --> 00:21:14,607 FUNNY. 859 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:15,408 >> IT IS NOT UNUSUAL BECAUSE 860 00:21:15,408 --> 00:21:17,711 YOU CRACK ONE -- I HAVE TO 861 00:21:17,711 --> 00:21:20,947 IMAGINE EUGENE CRACKING 862 00:21:20,947 --> 00:21:21,648 EVERYBODY UP. 863 00:21:21,648 --> 00:21:22,649 >> WE WILL CRACK UP FROM 864 00:21:22,649 --> 00:21:23,350 TIME TO TIME, BUT IT IS KIND 865 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:26,453 OF FROWNED UPON AND WE TRY 866 00:21:26,453 --> 00:21:27,053 NOT TO. 867 00:21:27,053 --> 00:21:28,855 MOSTLY I CRACK UP WHEN I AM 868 00:21:28,855 --> 00:21:29,255 TIRED. 869 00:21:29,255 --> 00:21:30,657 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE FUNNY. 870 00:21:30,657 --> 00:21:32,258 IF I AM REALLY TIRED, I CAN 871 00:21:32,258 --> 00:21:33,259 START LAUGHING NOW. 872 00:21:33,259 --> 00:21:33,660 [LAUGHTER]. 873 00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:35,061 >> DON'T RUIN THIS VERY 874 00:21:35,061 --> 00:21:35,962 SOMBER MOOD. 875 00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:36,563 >> SORRY. 876 00:21:36,563 --> 00:21:37,364 >> BUT THE SPECIFICS OF 877 00:21:37,364 --> 00:21:39,065 THIS -- I AM TO ASSUME THAT 878 00:21:39,065 --> 00:21:40,066 SPECIFIC ATTRIBUTES OF 879 00:21:40,066 --> 00:21:41,668 CHARACTER OF YOURS IN THOSE 880 00:21:41,668 --> 00:21:43,670 FILMS, MY FAVORITE THING IN 881 00:21:43,670 --> 00:21:44,971 THE ENTIRE WORLD, IN THE 882 00:21:44,971 --> 00:21:46,973 ENTIRE WORLD IS YOU HAVING 883 00:21:46,973 --> 00:21:49,175 TO WEAR A FOOTBALL HELMET 884 00:21:49,175 --> 00:21:53,780 PLAYING CHESS AS A CHILD 885 00:21:53,780 --> 00:21:58,385 BECAUSE YOUR MOTHER WAS 886 00:21:58,385 --> 00:21:59,886 AFRAID YOU WOULD FALL AND 887 00:21:59,886 --> 00:22:01,688 BREAK YOUR HEAD. 888 00:22:01,688 --> 00:22:03,189 >> THAT IS PARTIALLY TRUE. 889 00:22:03,189 --> 00:22:03,990 >> MIGHTY WIND. 890 00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,091 >> MIGHTY WIND. 891 00:22:05,091 --> 00:22:06,393 >> EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, I 892 00:22:06,393 --> 00:22:07,494 LOVE HE SAID THAT AND WE 893 00:22:07,494 --> 00:22:08,795 TALK TO THE CAMERA AND SAY 894 00:22:08,795 --> 00:22:09,696 STUFF ABOUT OURSELVES AND 895 00:22:09,696 --> 00:22:10,897 EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, 896 00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:12,499 CHRISTOPHER OR EUGENE WILL 897 00:22:12,499 --> 00:22:13,700 GET AN IDEA, WHOEVER IS 898 00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:14,601 WRITING THIS THING, AND 899 00:22:14,601 --> 00:22:15,702 OCCASIONALLY THEY WILL PUT 900 00:22:15,702 --> 00:22:16,703 IN A GOOD JOKE. 901 00:22:16,703 --> 00:22:17,604 WHEN HE PUT IN THE JOKE 902 00:22:17,604 --> 00:22:18,505 ABOUT MY MOTHER, I COULD 903 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:19,406 HAVE DONE ANYTHING ELSE IN 904 00:22:19,406 --> 00:22:20,240 THE WORLD. 905 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,241 I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE HAD TO 906 00:22:21,241 --> 00:22:23,043 SAY THAT BUT IF I HATE IT, I 907 00:22:23,043 --> 00:22:24,244 WOULDN'T SAY IT BUT IT 908 00:22:24,244 --> 00:22:25,278 COMPLETELY INFLUENCED 909 00:22:25,278 --> 00:22:26,179 EVERYTHING ABOUT ME FOR THE 910 00:22:26,179 --> 00:22:27,380 REST OF THE MOVIE. 911 00:22:27,380 --> 00:22:29,683 >> MY MOST FAVORITE THING IN 912 00:22:29,683 --> 00:22:30,784 ANY OF THOSE THINGS, THE 913 00:22:30,784 --> 00:22:32,185 MOST MEMORABLE THING. 914 00:22:32,185 --> 00:22:33,286 >> I LIKE THAT, ALTHOUGH I 915 00:22:33,286 --> 00:22:33,987 DIDN'T WRITE IT. 916 00:22:33,987 --> 00:22:35,588 FROM THEN ON IN THE MOVIE, 917 00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:36,589 ANY TIME -- AND THIS IS 918 00:22:36,589 --> 00:22:37,590 SUBCONSCIOUS BECAUSE YOU 919 00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:38,692 DON'T -- IT IS INTERESTING, 920 00:22:38,692 --> 00:22:40,193 I STUDIED AT THE SECOND CITY 921 00:22:40,193 --> 00:22:41,094 IN CHICAGO WHEN I WAS IN 922 00:22:41,094 --> 00:22:41,394 HIGH SCHOOL. 923 00:22:41,394 --> 00:22:42,896 THEY HAD A TEENAGE WORKSHOP 924 00:22:42,896 --> 00:22:44,798 WITH THIS AMAZING WOMAN 925 00:22:44,798 --> 00:22:49,202 CALLED VIOLA SPOLIN WHO 926 00:22:49,202 --> 00:22:51,905 WROTE THE BOOK ON IMPROVE 927 00:22:51,905 --> 00:22:53,206 ADVERTISING -- I THINK IT IS 928 00:22:53,206 --> 00:22:54,808 CALLED THEATER GAMES AND 929 00:22:54,808 --> 00:22:56,509 FANTASTIC BUT SHE ALWAYS 930 00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:57,610 MADE A VERY SECURE POINT. 931 00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:59,112 YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, WHERE 932 00:22:59,112 --> 00:23:00,113 YOU WENT, WHERE YOU ARE 933 00:23:00,113 --> 00:23:00,313 GOING. 934 00:23:00,313 --> 00:23:01,414 YOU KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES. 935 00:23:01,414 --> 00:23:03,316 YOU DO NOT COME IN AND PLAN 936 00:23:03,316 --> 00:23:04,517 WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SAY OR 937 00:23:04,517 --> 00:23:04,818 DO. 938 00:23:04,818 --> 00:23:05,919 YOU ALLOW THE STICKS TO 939 00:23:05,919 --> 00:23:07,320 BRING YOU TO THAT AND IT IS 940 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:08,922 REALLY ODD -- WELL, WHAT AM 941 00:23:08,922 --> 00:23:09,923 I, PSYCHOTIC. 942 00:23:09,923 --> 00:23:13,126 I KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT 943 00:23:13,126 --> 00:23:15,128 THE TRUTH IS IT ACTUALLY 944 00:23:15,128 --> 00:23:16,229 WORKS. 945 00:23:16,229 --> 00:23:19,532 I WASN'T -- I AM NOT SUCH A 946 00:23:19,532 --> 00:23:20,767 GREAT ACTOR BUT IF YOU TELL 947 00:23:20,767 --> 00:23:22,268 ME YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO 948 00:23:22,268 --> 00:23:23,269 ANYTHING, YOU DON'T HAVE TO 949 00:23:23,269 --> 00:23:24,671 LEARN ANYTHING, DO WHAT YOU 950 00:23:24,671 --> 00:23:25,872 NORMALLY WOULD DO BECAUSE IT 951 00:23:25,872 --> 00:23:27,574 IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING, I CAN 952 00:23:27,574 --> 00:23:28,575 DO THAT. 953 00:23:28,575 --> 00:23:29,476 I MAY NOT BE FUNNY 954 00:23:29,476 --> 00:23:30,477 NECESSARILY. 955 00:23:30,477 --> 00:23:31,778 I CAN DO IT BUT YOU ARE 956 00:23:31,778 --> 00:23:33,279 TAUGHT DON'T USE YOUR HEAD 957 00:23:33,279 --> 00:23:35,081 TO CREATE, USE WHATEVER IS 958 00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:36,483 GOING ON IN THERE BUT THAT 959 00:23:36,483 --> 00:23:39,919 WAS -- CAME INTO PLAY 960 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:40,720 COMPLETELY DURING THE 961 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,421 MOVIES. 962 00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:42,822 >> AND NOW TO THE CELL 963 00:23:42,822 --> 00:23:44,424 VISION PROGRAMS FOR HBO. 964 00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:45,825 >> SERIES FOR HBO. 965 00:23:45,825 --> 00:23:46,926 >> WITH MOST OF THE CAST OR 966 00:23:46,926 --> 00:23:47,627 ALL OF THE CAST. 967 00:23:47,627 --> 00:23:48,628 >> I KNOW SOME OF THE 968 00:23:48,628 --> 00:23:51,531 PEOPLE, MICHAEL MCKEAN IS IN 969 00:23:51,531 --> 00:23:51,831 IT. 970 00:23:51,831 --> 00:23:54,034 I AM IN THE END AT AMERICA, 971 00:23:54,034 --> 00:23:55,235 I PLAY TWO CHARACTERS FOR 972 00:23:55,235 --> 00:23:56,436 THAT BUT I CAN'T REVEAL 973 00:23:56,436 --> 00:23:56,736 THAT. 974 00:23:56,736 --> 00:23:57,737 IT IS TOO EXCITING. 975 00:23:57,737 --> 00:23:59,839 AND I THINK I WILL BE IN IT 976 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:01,041 AND I THINK IT PROBABLY WILL 977 00:24:01,041 --> 00:24:01,941 BE WONDERFUL. 978 00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:03,443 >> THAT IS THE NEXT BIG 979 00:24:03,443 --> 00:24:04,644 THING YOU ARE DOING? 980 00:24:04,644 --> 00:24:06,246 >> I AM ACTING IN A BUNCH OF 981 00:24:06,246 --> 00:24:06,846 MOVIES. 982 00:24:06,846 --> 00:24:07,847 I CAN TELL YOU THE FIRST 983 00:24:07,847 --> 00:24:09,149 TWO, I WILL HINT ABOUT THE 984 00:24:09,149 --> 00:24:09,649 THIRD ONE. 985 00:24:09,649 --> 00:24:11,351 I AM DOING A MOVIE WITH JOHN 986 00:24:11,351 --> 00:24:11,651 TURTURRO. 987 00:24:11,651 --> 00:24:15,855 HE IS DIRECTING THE NEXT 988 00:24:15,855 --> 00:24:17,357 WEEK OR TWO IN NEW YORK. 989 00:24:17,357 --> 00:24:19,259 I PLAY WOODY ALLEN'S LAWYER 990 00:24:19,259 --> 00:24:20,794 AND WOODY IS ACTING IN THE 991 00:24:20,794 --> 00:24:21,294 MOVIE. 992 00:24:21,294 --> 00:24:22,195 >> WOW. 993 00:24:22,195 --> 00:24:23,596 >> SHARON STONE IS THE LOVE 994 00:24:23,596 --> 00:24:24,497 INTEREST IN THE MOVIE. 995 00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:26,299 I LOVE THE SCRIPT AND THINK 996 00:24:26,299 --> 00:24:27,801 IT IS TERRIFIC AND ENJOY MY 997 00:24:27,801 --> 00:24:28,101 PART. 998 00:24:28,101 --> 00:24:28,702 >> THAT IS ONE. 999 00:24:28,702 --> 00:24:30,003 >> I HAVE A PLAY RUNNING IN 1000 00:24:30,003 --> 00:24:30,403 NEW YORK THAT I 1001 00:24:30,403 --> 00:24:31,905 CONSTANTLY -- I PUT PEOPLE 1002 00:24:31,905 --> 00:24:33,106 INTO IT, SO IT IS KIND OF 1003 00:24:33,106 --> 00:24:35,008 SOMETHING I AM DOING CALLED 1004 00:24:35,008 --> 00:24:37,210 THE EXONERATED, A DOCUDRAMA 1005 00:24:37,210 --> 00:24:38,611 ABOUT SIX MEN AND WOMEN ON 1006 00:24:38,611 --> 00:24:40,013 DEATH ROW WHO ARE INNOCENT 1007 00:24:40,013 --> 00:24:41,514 AND ACTING IN ANOTHER WES 1008 00:24:41,514 --> 00:24:43,316 ANDERSON MOVIE, I THINK IN 1009 00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:44,417 GERMANY IN FEBRUARY. 1010 00:24:44,417 --> 00:24:46,319 I AM NOT THERE FOR LONG, IT 1011 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:47,921 IS SORT OF -- PROBABLY A FEW 1012 00:24:47,921 --> 00:24:49,022 DAYS I WILL BE THERE AND I 1013 00:24:49,022 --> 00:24:50,323 AM DOING ANOTHER MOVIE WHICH 1014 00:24:50,323 --> 00:24:51,624 I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT 1015 00:24:51,624 --> 00:24:53,326 RIGHT NOW, BUT IN EUROPE. 1016 00:24:53,326 --> 00:24:54,327 IT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING IN 1017 00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:56,129 EUROPE FOR LIKE A COUPLE OF 1018 00:24:56,129 --> 00:24:57,530 MONTHS, ALSO. 1019 00:24:57,530 --> 00:24:58,231 >> FANTASTIC. 1020 00:24:58,231 --> 00:25:00,333 >> ALSO IN FEBRUARY OR 1021 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:00,533 MARCH. 1022 00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:01,935 >> I AM VERY HEARTENED AS I 1023 00:25:01,935 --> 00:25:03,036 LOOK OUT IN THE WORLD TO 1024 00:25:03,036 --> 00:25:04,237 KNOW THAT YOU WORK 1025 00:25:04,237 --> 00:25:04,938 CONSISTENTLY. 1026 00:25:04,938 --> 00:25:06,039 >> WELL, I AM GLAD. 1027 00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:07,640 [LAUGHTER].. 1028 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:08,041 GOOD. 1029 00:25:08,041 --> 00:25:08,341 GOOD. 1030 00:25:08,341 --> 00:25:09,342 >> THAT'S THE KIND OF WORLD 1031 00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:10,343 I WANT TO LIVE IN. 1032 00:25:10,343 --> 00:25:10,844 >> GOOD. 1033 00:25:10,844 --> 00:25:12,345 >> THEY ARE TELLING ME WE 1034 00:25:12,345 --> 00:25:13,146 ARE OUT OF TIME. 1035 00:25:13,146 --> 00:25:15,148 I'M AM REALLY ELATED ABOUT 1036 00:25:15,148 --> 00:25:16,149 THIS BOOK AND I HOPE THE 1037 00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:16,750 FIRST OF MANY. 1038 00:25:16,750 --> 00:25:18,051 I KNOW YOU HAVE A COUPLE, 1039 00:25:18,051 --> 00:25:19,652 COMPLETED ONE AND WRITTEN ON 1040 00:25:19,652 --> 00:25:20,286 IT -- 1041 00:25:20,286 --> 00:25:21,488 >> I AM NOT SURE I CAN WRITE 1042 00:25:21,488 --> 00:25:23,490 MORE THAN FOUR, I MAY KILL 1043 00:25:23,490 --> 00:25:23,890 MYSELF. 1044 00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:25,291 >> BUT I AM GLAD YOU DID 1045 00:25:25,291 --> 00:25:25,792 THAT. 1046 00:25:25,792 --> 00:25:26,693 >> GLAD TO MEET YOU. 1047 00:25:26,693 --> 00:25:27,794 >> YES. 1048 00:25:27,794 --> 00:25:29,396 >> AND GOOD LUCK. 1049 00:25:29,396 --> 00:25:30,597 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 1050 00:25:30,597 --> 00:25:32,599 >> WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU 1051 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:34,501 JOIN US IN THE STUDIO, VISIT 1052 00:25:34,501 --> 00:25:37,504 OUR WEBSITE, KLRU/OVERHEARD 1053 00:25:37,504 --> 00:25:40,206 TO FIND INTERVIEWS, Q AND A 1054 00:25:40,206 --> 00:25:41,408 WITH AUDIENCE GUESTS AND 1055 00:25:41,408 --> 00:25:43,710 ARCHIVE OF PAST EPISODES. 1056 00:25:43,710 --> 00:26:10,470 ¶ 1057 00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:11,371 >> FUNDING FOR OVERHEARD 1058 00:26:11,371 --> 00:26:13,673 WITH EVAN SMITH IS SUPPORTED 1059 00:26:13,673 --> 00:26:15,875 BY THE MATSON MCHAIL 1060 00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:17,277 DIVISION IN SUPPORT OF 1061 00:26:17,277 --> 00:26:19,179 PUBLIC TELEVISION, ALSO MFI 1062 00:26:19,179 --> 00:26:20,113 FOUNDATION, IMPROVING THE 1063 00:26:20,113 --> 00:26:21,114 QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN OUR 1064 00:26:21,114 --> 00:26:22,015 COMMUNITY, AND FROM THE 1065 00:26:22,015 --> 00:26:23,016 TEXAS BOARD OF LEGAL 1066 00:26:23,016 --> 00:26:24,117 SPECIALIZATION, BOARD 1067 00:26:24,117 --> 00:26:25,418 CERTIFIED ATTORNEYS IN YOUR 1068 00:26:25,418 --> 00:26:27,320 COMMUNITY, EXPERIENCED, 1069 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,922 RESPECTED, AND TESTED. 1070 00:26:28,922 --> 00:26:31,725 ALSO, BY HILLCO PARTNERS, 1071 00:26:31,725 --> 00:26:32,726 TEXAS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 1072 00:26:32,726 --> 00:26:35,328 CONSULTANCY, AND ITS GLOBAL 1073 00:26:35,328 --> 00:26:36,229 HEALTH CARE CONSULTING 1074 00:26:36,229 --> 00:26:37,731 BUSINESS UNIT, HILLCO 1075 00:26:37,731 --> 00:26:39,632 HEALTH, AND BY THE ALICE 1076 00:26:39,632 --> 00:26:42,736 KLEBERG REYNOLDS FOUNDATION 1077 00:26:42,736 --> 00:26:44,137 AND VIEWERS LIKE YOU. 1078 00:26:44,137 --> 00:26:44,637 THANK YOU. 1079 00:26:44,637 --> 00:27:07,761 ¶ 1080 00:27:07,761 --> 00:27:08,862 >> NEXT TIME ON OVERHEARD. 1081 00:27:08,862 --> 00:27:11,164 >> ACTUALLY, I WENT TO DO 1082 00:27:11,164 --> 00:27:12,766 THE MOVIE CATCH-22 WHEN I 1083 00:27:12,766 --> 00:27:13,867 WAS A SENIOR IN COLLEGE AND 1084 00:27:13,867 --> 00:27:15,368 NEVER CAME BACK AND CAME 1085 00:27:15,368 --> 00:27:16,469 BACK WORKING, WHICH IS TWO 1086 00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:17,570 COURSES, WHO CARES. 1087 00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:18,672 MY WIFE IS PREGNANT AND SHE 1088 00:27:18,672 --> 00:27:19,873 SAID, I THINK IT IS JUST A 1089 00:27:19,873 --> 00:27:20,807 BAD EXAMPLE FOR OUR CHILD TO 1090 00:27:20,807 --> 00:27:22,108 KNOW THAT YOU QUIT COLLEGE 1091 00:27:22,108 --> 00:27:23,309 AND DIDN'T COME BACK. 1092 00:27:23,309 --> 00:27:25,111 >> FIX THAT NOW. 1093 00:27:25,111 --> 00:27:25,412 >> RIGHT. 1094 00:27:25,412 --> 00:27:28,715 AND SO I DID. 1095 00:27:28,715 --> 00:27:29,115 >> I DON'T THINK IN ANY OF 1096 00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:30,617 THE ARTISTS EVER SIT DOWN 1097 00:27:30,617 --> 00:27:32,819 AND SAY I THINK I WILL PAINT 1098 00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:34,120 THIS PICTURE THIS WAY SO I 1099 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:38,120 WILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.