WEBVTT 00:01.466 --> 00:03.000 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - [Narrator] Funding for Overheard with Evan Smith 00:03.000 --> 00:05.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% is provided in part by Hillco Partners, 00:05.900 --> 00:08.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% a Texas government affairs consultancy, 00:08.433 --> 00:11.000 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and by Claire and Carl Stuart. 00:12.833 --> 00:15.766 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - I'm Evan Smith, he's the 109th mayor of New York, 00:15.766 --> 00:17.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% a few months into his second term leading 00:17.766 --> 00:20.800 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% the biggest city in America, and on the long list of names 00:20.800 --> 00:24.100 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% floated as possible candidates for president in 2020. 00:24.100 --> 00:26.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% He's Bill DeBlasio, this is Overheard. 00:26.700 --> 00:28.000 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% (light music) 00:28.000 --> 00:29.233 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - [Evan] Let's be honest. 00:29.233 --> 00:31.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Is this about the ability to learn 00:31.033 --> 00:32.600 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% or is this about the experience 00:32.600 --> 00:34.200 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% of not having to talk properly? 00:34.200 --> 00:36.500 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% How have you avoided what has befallen 00:36.500 --> 00:38.166 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% other nations in Africa and-- 00:38.166 --> 00:39.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% You could say that he made his own bed, 00:39.433 --> 00:41.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% but you caused him to sleep in it. 00:41.266 --> 00:44.266 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% You saw a problem, and over time you took it on-- 00:44.266 --> 00:47.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Let's start with the sizzle before we get to the steak. 00:47.733 --> 00:49.066 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Are you gonna run for president? 00:49.066 --> 00:52.466 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (overlapping voices) 00:52.466 --> 00:55.666 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience cheers) 00:55.666 --> 00:56.900 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Mr. Mayor, welcome. 00:56.900 --> 00:58.133 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - Thank you. 00:58.133 --> 00:59.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Thank you very much for being here. 00:59.433 --> 01:00.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Let me go right to the elephant in the room, 01:00.466 --> 01:01.866 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% or the donkey as it were. 01:01.866 --> 01:02.800 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - The donkey in the room? 01:02.800 --> 01:04.200 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Do you understand-- 01:04.200 --> 01:05.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - You just coined a new phrase, the donkey in the room. 01:05.500 --> 01:06.433 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - The donkey in the room. - All right. 01:06.433 --> 01:07.633 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - You understand why people talk 01:07.633 --> 01:08.866 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% about you running for president? 01:08.866 --> 01:10.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Sure, I think it has a lot to do 01:10.900 --> 01:13.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% with how mayors are becoming more prominent. 01:13.200 --> 01:14.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - [Evan] Are you encouraging it, personally? 01:14.833 --> 01:15.933 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - No. 01:15.933 --> 01:19.000 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% I have a tremendously valued job, 01:19.000 --> 01:20.366 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% I really appreciate the opportunity 01:20.366 --> 01:21.333 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% to serve the people in New York City-- 01:21.333 --> 01:22.833 align:left position:40%,start line:5% size:50% - Right. 01:22.833 --> 01:24.766 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% - But I'm also going around the country talking about 01:24.766 --> 01:27.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% the need for a more progressive Democratic Party-- 01:27.066 --> 01:28.300 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 01:28.300 --> 01:29.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I'm talking about the need for cities 01:29.633 --> 01:31.933 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% to stand up and address what is 01:31.933 --> 01:33.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% not being addressed in Washington-- 01:33.466 --> 01:35.000 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 01:35.000 --> 01:36.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - I think mayors have a very big role to play nationally 01:36.500 --> 01:38.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% in the absence, in my view, of a federal government that-- 01:38.933 --> 01:40.200 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 01:40.200 --> 01:43.066 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - That is absent, so it doesn't surprise me 01:43.066 --> 01:45.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that for, probably the first time in memory, 01:45.166 --> 01:47.666 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% you hear mayors talked about as 01:47.666 --> 01:48.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% potential presidential candidates. 01:48.700 --> 01:49.800 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% Eric Garcetti in Los Angeles, 01:49.800 --> 01:50.766 align:left position:40%,start line:5% size:50% - Sure. 01:50.766 --> 01:52.033 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% - Mitch Landrieu in New Orleans, 01:52.033 --> 01:53.666 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% even Pete Buttigieg in South Bend, Indiana. 01:53.666 --> 01:55.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We hear mayors alongside senators and governors, 01:55.966 --> 01:58.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and regular old folks being talked about. 01:58.533 --> 01:59.600 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I mean, a long list of people. 01:59.600 --> 02:00.933 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 02:00.933 --> 02:02.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - You have foreclosed previously when asked, 02:02.166 --> 02:03.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% when you went to Iowa and why would 02:03.433 --> 02:05.366 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% a mayor of New York go to Iowa, it is assumed, 02:05.366 --> 02:08.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% except to kick around the idea of doing something else. 02:08.733 --> 02:11.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% When you were asked, you said "I am not running." 02:11.100 --> 02:12.366 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Is that your position today? 02:12.366 --> 02:13.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Yeah, I'm mayor of New York City, 02:13.633 --> 02:14.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% it's a tremendous honor to do that, 02:14.566 --> 02:15.766 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I've got a lotta work to do 02:15.766 --> 02:17.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% for the next four years that's my focus. 02:17.266 --> 02:18.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - You commit to running, you commit 02:18.666 --> 02:20.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to staying in that job for four years. 02:20.200 --> 02:22.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - I have, but my focus also, 'cause I think we have 02:22.966 --> 02:25.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to be able to do more than one thing at a time 02:25.833 --> 02:28.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in this very roiled environment we're in-- 02:28.266 --> 02:29.500 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 02:29.500 --> 02:31.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Is to build a national progressive movement, 02:31.100 --> 02:34.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% is to help push the Democrat Party to the left, explicitly, 02:34.600 --> 02:36.000 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 02:36.000 --> 02:38.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - And to actually amplify the work of cities 02:38.733 --> 02:40.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% all over the country, and create more coalition 02:40.566 --> 02:41.866 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% among cities for change. 02:41.866 --> 02:44.166 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% When cities act in unison-- 02:44.166 --> 02:45.566 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 02:45.566 --> 02:46.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - You create another version of national policy. 02:46.933 --> 02:48.200 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 02:48.200 --> 02:49.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And so all this work is crucial, 02:49.700 --> 02:54.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% it cannot just be done from my desk in City Hall. 02:54.066 --> 02:55.600 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I'm gonna keep doing that work, 02:57.200 --> 02:59.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% but I feel it's important that mayors stand 02:59.233 --> 03:02.100 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and be counted at this point, because you can't sit back 03:02.100 --> 03:04.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in your cities and expect the kind of 03:04.866 --> 03:06.666 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% bigger changes to occur. 03:06.666 --> 03:10.000 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% We have to build something nationally that's different. 03:10.000 --> 03:12.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% And I gotta tell you, the energy on the ground 03:12.966 --> 03:14.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in this country is absolutely amazing. 03:14.733 --> 03:16.233 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 03:16.233 --> 03:18.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - When you look at what is being achieved city by city, 03:18.333 --> 03:20.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and I wanna talk about a couple of things we're doing. 03:20.066 --> 03:21.666 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - A host of issues, right? 03:21.666 --> 03:25.300 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% - Yeah, but what's so fascinating is cities have woken up. 03:25.300 --> 03:27.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% They are in an aggressive posture right now. 03:27.600 --> 03:28.833 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 03:28.833 --> 03:30.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - To create real change in their communities, 03:30.800 --> 03:32.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% whether it's addressing affordable housing 03:32.733 --> 03:35.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% or, in our case, for example, pre-K for all our kids-- 03:35.233 --> 03:36.500 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 03:36.500 --> 03:39.066 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Or going at changes in how we have police 03:39.066 --> 03:40.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and community relate to each other. 03:40.300 --> 03:42.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We're not waiting for a federal policy 03:42.033 --> 03:43.366 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% or even a state policy-- 03:43.366 --> 03:44.300 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 03:44.300 --> 03:45.100 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - It's a do-it-yourself moment. 03:45.100 --> 03:46.033 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Why now, Mr. Mayor? 03:46.033 --> 03:47.733 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% You know, is it all Trump? 03:47.733 --> 03:49.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Because you had eight years of Obama 03:49.133 --> 03:51.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% when the mayors could've gotten as activated 03:51.100 --> 03:53.366 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and as organized, where the cities were just as much 03:53.366 --> 03:55.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% laboratories of innovation, experimentation 03:55.233 --> 03:57.166 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and democracy as they are now. 03:57.166 --> 03:59.700 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% If you all wanted to activate at that time, you could've. 03:59.700 --> 04:01.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% This seems to be more about what you're opposed to, 04:01.600 --> 04:03.333 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% versus what you're for. 04:03.333 --> 04:05.366 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I appreciate why it may look that way, 04:05.366 --> 04:06.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% but I'm gonna argue that actually it 04:06.666 --> 04:08.666 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% was well in motion before that. 04:08.666 --> 04:10.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I think there's a historical trajectory 04:10.866 --> 04:12.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that has to be talked about a lot more. 04:12.866 --> 04:15.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% The Recession, which has, The Great Recession, 04:15.133 --> 04:17.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% defined the politics of our time. 04:17.566 --> 04:20.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Occupy Wall Street, I think, was a signature moment-- 04:20.466 --> 04:21.700 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 04:21.700 --> 04:23.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - In terms of opening up the political process. 04:23.133 --> 04:24.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Then you saw progressives start to get elected 04:24.833 --> 04:26.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% all over the country at the local level. 04:26.666 --> 04:31.366 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% In 2012, my number one platform item 04:31.366 --> 04:33.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% when I was running in the election the following year 04:33.466 --> 04:36.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% was a tax on wealthy New Yorkers to pay for pre-K for all. 04:36.900 --> 04:38.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - But yeah, we have some experience with that in Texas, 04:38.466 --> 04:40.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% in San Antonio, specifically, where they raised 04:40.400 --> 04:42.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the sales tax by some incremental amount 04:42.133 --> 04:46.366 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% to pay for full day pre-K for 22,000 4-year-olds. 04:46.366 --> 04:48.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And what San Antonio did under Mayor Castro 04:48.633 --> 04:50.500 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% was well before you ever heard of the name 04:50.500 --> 04:52.700 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Donald Trump as a potential presidential candidate. 04:52.700 --> 04:53.933 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - Correct. 04:53.933 --> 04:55.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - When I, in 2012, said "Let's tax the wealthy 04:55.400 --> 04:56.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% for pre-K for all," that was well before-- 04:56.333 --> 04:57.900 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - He was still your constituent. 04:57.900 --> 04:58.966 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% - God help me. - Right. 04:58.966 --> 05:01.333 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% (laughs) 05:01.333 --> 05:03.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Not a point of pride for some of us. 05:03.200 --> 05:04.033 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% That's okay. 05:04.033 --> 05:05.266 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience laughs) 05:05.266 --> 05:06.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% But look, here's what I wanna say. 05:06.466 --> 05:07.400 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 05:07.400 --> 05:09.733 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - That was well before Trump. 05:09.733 --> 05:12.266 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Cities were increasing, more and more progressives 05:12.266 --> 05:14.633 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% were being elected, more and more change agents, I think, 05:14.633 --> 05:16.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% again, Mayor Adler's done amazing things here in Austin. 05:16.866 --> 05:18.533 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% It's a different type of mayor 05:18.533 --> 05:20.033 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% that emerged well before Trump. 05:20.033 --> 05:22.800 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Now, I think you're right to say the election of Trump 05:22.800 --> 05:25.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% then crystallized a movement locally-- 05:25.233 --> 05:26.433 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yep. 05:26.433 --> 05:27.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And among mayors, to force change. 05:27.666 --> 05:29.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% The most obvious example is when Trump 05:29.766 --> 05:32.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% left the Paris Agreement, which could've been 05:32.566 --> 05:35.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% a devastating moment, had there not been a vivid response-- 05:35.400 --> 05:36.933 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 05:36.933 --> 05:39.000 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Over 300 American mayors said "No, we're still in. 05:39.000 --> 05:41.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We're going to abide by the Paris Agreement. 05:41.233 --> 05:43.433 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% We're going to create a response to global warming 05:43.433 --> 05:47.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% on our own, locally, in the absence of national leadership." 05:47.233 --> 05:49.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% And this is a paradigm shift, that I think 05:49.133 --> 05:50.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% is only beginning to be fully understood. 05:50.966 --> 05:53.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Think about it this way, and I'm-- 05:53.233 --> 05:54.600 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% You know, being in the great state of Texas, 05:54.600 --> 05:57.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and it's a long tradition of independence 05:57.533 --> 05:58.700 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and independent thinking. 05:58.700 --> 06:00.166 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 06:00.166 --> 06:02.633 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - If your federal government is not functioning, 06:02.633 --> 06:05.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% do it yourself, create on the ground. 06:05.300 --> 06:07.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% So imagine the notion of something 06:07.166 --> 06:08.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that you would think is quintessentially federal 06:08.933 --> 06:11.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and national, like a policy on global warming, 06:11.900 --> 06:13.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in the absence of a federal policy, 06:13.700 --> 06:17.100 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% a extraordinary coalition of localities get together 06:17.100 --> 06:19.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and say "We're not only saying symbolically 06:19.233 --> 06:20.033 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% we're going to abide by it," 06:20.033 --> 06:21.300 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 06:21.300 --> 06:22.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - "We're actually going to meet these standards. 06:22.533 --> 06:23.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We're committing ourselves locally 06:23.733 --> 06:25.166 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% to meeting these standards." 06:25.166 --> 06:25.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Practically, Mr. Mayor, what does that mean? 06:25.966 --> 06:27.533 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% What can you actually do 06:27.533 --> 06:29.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to affect the outcome of this issue? 06:29.566 --> 06:32.666 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - So, we are now putting mandates on our buildings. 06:32.666 --> 06:33.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% You know, the biggest source of pollution 06:33.966 --> 06:35.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in New York City is actually big buildings. 06:35.700 --> 06:36.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We're putting mandates that they have 06:36.900 --> 06:38.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to get cleaner, they have to be retrofitted, 06:38.933 --> 06:41.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% or there are substantial penalties if they don't. 06:41.100 --> 06:42.533 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 06:42.533 --> 06:44.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - We're putting up electric car charging stations 06:44.533 --> 06:47.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% all over New York City, as a public investment 06:47.233 --> 06:49.366 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% to encourage the conversion to electric vehicles. 06:49.366 --> 06:52.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Our city car fleet is gonna be all electric. 06:52.633 --> 06:55.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We are divesting our pension fund investments 06:55.700 --> 06:58.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% from fossil fuel holding companies. 06:58.133 --> 07:00.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% It's five billion dollars, ultimately-- 07:00.633 --> 07:01.900 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 07:01.900 --> 07:03.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - That will be taken out of fossil fuel industry. 07:03.133 --> 07:04.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We are actually suing five of the largest 07:04.400 --> 07:06.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% petroleum companies to hold them responsible 07:06.800 --> 07:08.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% for the impact they've had on global warming. 07:08.733 --> 07:09.966 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 07:09.966 --> 07:11.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - This is one city, but now I'm talking about 07:11.266 --> 07:12.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% 300 cities, each in their own way-- 07:12.833 --> 07:14.233 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - Versions of the same thing. 07:14.233 --> 07:15.166 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - Each in their own way-- 07:15.166 --> 07:16.666 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 07:16.666 --> 07:18.166 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - That are finding a way to address global warming. 07:18.166 --> 07:19.666 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Are you getting pushback from the big businesses 07:19.666 --> 07:21.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% that are either headquartered or have significant amounts 07:21.533 --> 07:24.000 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% of business in New York, who might be 07:24.000 --> 07:26.900 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% on the receiving end of a lot of these regulations 07:26.900 --> 07:28.333 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% or a lot of these policies that, 07:28.333 --> 07:29.666 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% while they may be well-intentioned, 07:29.666 --> 07:31.166 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% and people in the communities may support them, 07:31.166 --> 07:33.000 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% but at the same time, you know the tension between 07:33.000 --> 07:35.000 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the climate issue on the one hand, 07:35.000 --> 07:36.633 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and economic development and the business community 07:36.633 --> 07:37.866 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% on the other. 07:37.866 --> 07:38.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I'm very familiar with the tension, 07:38.800 --> 07:39.500 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and I'll tell you, it's happen-- 07:39.500 --> 07:40.333 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 07:40.333 --> 07:41.433 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% (laughs) 07:41.433 --> 07:43.000 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% - Well, I am and yes, yes I have. 07:43.000 --> 07:44.000 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Yes I am, well right. 07:44.000 --> 07:45.500 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience laughs) 07:45.500 --> 07:47.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% That's why I'm the host, I ask the good questions. 07:47.466 --> 07:50.833 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% - It has become, you know, this is my fifth year as mayor. 07:50.833 --> 07:52.333 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% - Yes sir. 07:52.333 --> 07:54.566 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% - And I'll tell ya, when we went to do paid sick leave 07:54.566 --> 07:55.900 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% for half a million more families-- 07:55.900 --> 07:56.833 align:left position:40%,start line:5% size:50% - Right. 07:56.833 --> 07:57.766 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% - Some of the business community 07:57.766 --> 07:59.166 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% told me the sky was gonna fall. 07:59.166 --> 08:01.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% When we pushed for a higher minimum wage 08:01.100 --> 08:03.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in our state, which we ultimately achieved, 08:03.333 --> 08:05.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the economy was going to ground to a halt. 08:05.900 --> 08:07.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - But we're gonna have to lay a bunch of people off. 08:07.400 --> 08:10.100 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Right, when we said was gonna be tough mandates 08:10.100 --> 08:12.466 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% to address global warming, oh, 08:12.466 --> 08:15.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% literally our real estate boards said at one point 08:15.933 --> 08:17.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% this was going to devastate the real estate market 08:17.833 --> 08:18.666 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% in New York City. 08:18.666 --> 08:19.900 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yep. 08:19.900 --> 08:21.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I'm like, come on, that's ludicrous. 08:21.433 --> 08:24.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I think it is, when you know that kind of critique 08:24.333 --> 08:25.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% is coming, it doesn't mean you don't listen to people 08:25.833 --> 08:28.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% or work with people, but I'm just not falling for that. 08:28.333 --> 08:31.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We have to, look at that line of examples. 08:31.433 --> 08:33.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% We have to raise wages and benefits in a society 08:33.933 --> 08:36.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that's absolutely being undermined 08:36.133 --> 08:38.200 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% by vast income inequality. 08:38.200 --> 08:39.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We have to address global warming. 08:39.733 --> 08:41.033 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% It's a survival matter. 08:41.033 --> 08:43.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% It's not a matter that could be sublimated 08:43.033 --> 08:44.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to the needs of a company for profit. 08:44.700 --> 08:45.966 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 08:45.966 --> 08:47.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - We have to sort this out together, 08:47.466 --> 08:49.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and honestly, I said, I went to the United Nations 08:49.566 --> 08:51.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% a few years ago and said we would abide by 08:51.133 --> 08:54.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% the core Paris Agreement goal, which was 80 percent 08:54.533 --> 08:56.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% reduction in emissions by 2050, 08:56.333 --> 08:58.500 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and I said there, literally at the podium 08:58.500 --> 09:00.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% of the United Nations in the General Assembly, 09:00.166 --> 09:03.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I said if the business sector comes along voluntarily, 09:03.933 --> 09:04.933 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% that would be our preference, 09:04.933 --> 09:06.366 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% if not, we will issue mandates. 09:06.366 --> 09:08.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Lo and behold, after several years of discussing, 09:08.966 --> 09:12.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I was not shocked to find that the business community 09:12.233 --> 09:14.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% did not voluntarily meet the standard we needed-- 09:14.533 --> 09:16.033 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 09:16.033 --> 09:17.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - So we said, great, we'll make it really easy for you, 09:17.333 --> 09:18.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% meet these standards or there will be 09:18.733 --> 09:20.533 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% substantial financial penalties. 09:20.533 --> 09:22.000 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% That's a language they can understand. 09:22.000 --> 09:23.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And you have to mean it, by the way. 09:23.200 --> 09:24.166 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - You have to mean it. 09:24.166 --> 09:25.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - It cannot be an idle threat. 09:25.333 --> 09:27.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Do you worry that Scott Pruitt at the EPA, 09:27.166 --> 09:29.033 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% or the Trump administration will swoop in 09:29.033 --> 09:31.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and say "This is not really the purview of the cities, 09:31.933 --> 09:33.400 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and we're gonna challenge you." 09:33.400 --> 09:34.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I mean, you don't really care about that either, do you? 09:34.566 --> 09:35.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% That's a fight you'd love to have. 09:35.900 --> 09:38.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Well not, look, the irony is it's a fight 09:38.666 --> 09:40.000 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% I'd love to not have-- 09:40.000 --> 09:41.533 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Yeah. 09:41.533 --> 09:44.266 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Because I like the notion of local control to be respected 09:44.266 --> 09:45.766 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Right. 09:45.766 --> 09:46.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - And let us do the work we're doing for our people 09:46.733 --> 09:48.433 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% with the values of our city. 09:48.433 --> 09:50.066 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% But if it's a fight that comes, 09:50.066 --> 09:51.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% we will meet 'em on the battlefield, 09:51.666 --> 09:53.133 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and I believe we will beat them, 09:53.133 --> 09:56.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% because what's been forgotten in the whole Trump epoch 09:56.200 --> 09:57.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% is the United States Constitution 09:57.666 --> 10:00.066 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% is very friendly to localities. 10:00.066 --> 10:02.066 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% A few weeks after the election, 10:02.066 --> 10:04.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I gave a speech at The Cooper Union Building 10:04.433 --> 10:07.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in New York City, very historic place 10:07.566 --> 10:10.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% where there've been important moments in history discussed. 10:10.533 --> 10:13.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I said, "Look, we've gotta remember 10:13.666 --> 10:17.366 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% our constitutional structure is a defense at this moment. 10:17.366 --> 10:19.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% The values of New York City, the values of Texas-- 10:19.600 --> 10:21.000 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Right. 10:21.000 --> 10:23.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Are going to be expressed by local government 10:23.466 --> 10:24.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and state government in a variety of ways." 10:24.966 --> 10:26.700 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% And in fact the Constitution does not allow 10:26.700 --> 10:28.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the federal government to come in and say 10:28.166 --> 10:30.300 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% "We're gonna be able to nullify everything you want to do." 10:30.300 --> 10:31.766 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - And yet, Mr. Mayor, you know 10:31.766 --> 10:33.666 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% that the local control conversation has been turned 10:33.666 --> 10:34.800 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% on its head in many places-- 10:34.800 --> 10:36.333 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yes. 10:36.333 --> 10:36.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - It has in Texas, I don't know if it has in New York. 10:36.900 --> 10:38.133 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yes. 10:38.133 --> 10:39.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Where the state says, "States created 10:39.266 --> 10:40.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the federal government, states created 10:40.533 --> 10:41.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the cities and the counties, the states 10:41.766 --> 10:43.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% have the ultimate sovereign authority." 10:43.733 --> 10:46.066 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% So the fact is, local control only works 10:46.066 --> 10:48.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% if we like how the locals are being controlled, 10:48.333 --> 10:50.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% otherwise we say that whole Jeffersonian idea 10:50.700 --> 10:52.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% of the best government is the government 10:52.033 --> 10:54.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% closest to the people, forget about that. 10:55.566 --> 10:57.066 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I just wonder if, really, you can make 10:57.066 --> 11:00.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the civics textbook argument successfully 11:00.666 --> 11:02.066 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% if the federal government decides 11:02.066 --> 11:04.366 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% that all not withstanding, we wanna swoop in 11:04.366 --> 11:05.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and tell you you can't do what you wanna do. 11:05.766 --> 11:07.000 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Oh, we believe we can. 11:07.000 --> 11:10.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I'll give you the example of the attempts 11:10.200 --> 11:12.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% by the President and Attorney General Sessions 11:12.966 --> 11:16.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to threaten to withhold our security funding 11:16.200 --> 11:19.433 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% if we don't change our policies. 11:19.433 --> 11:20.633 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Sanctuary cities. 11:20.633 --> 11:22.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Undocumented immigrants, right? 11:22.100 --> 11:24.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% So the, look, this is one I love to talk about. 11:24.933 --> 11:26.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Well, you boycotted that meeting, right? 11:26.400 --> 11:28.700 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% You were proudly, you decided not to go see the, right. 11:28.700 --> 11:30.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I didn't want to have to boycott the meeting, 11:30.166 --> 11:32.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% but once again they threatened my city. 11:32.033 --> 11:33.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - But you did it, but you did it. 11:33.266 --> 11:38.066 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - But here's the bottom line, and actually had 11:38.066 --> 11:39.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% a very surreal meeting with Donald Trump 11:39.933 --> 11:42.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and Jeff Sessions a week or two after the election 11:42.400 --> 11:44.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in an attempt at some kind of dialogue, 11:44.166 --> 11:47.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and I said, "Look, the reason to understand 11:47.100 --> 11:50.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% how we approach immigration, in say, New York, 11:50.200 --> 11:52.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% with half a million undocumented immigrants--" 11:52.333 --> 11:53.300 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 11:53.300 --> 11:54.766 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - "Is about public safety." 11:54.766 --> 11:57.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I said, "Don't talk to me, talk to my police commissioner. 11:57.566 --> 11:59.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% If you wanna hear a non-partisan assessment, 11:59.966 --> 12:01.266 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% talk to my police commissioner 12:01.266 --> 12:03.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% about why we will not ask documentation status 12:03.033 --> 12:05.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and why that has helped us to bond police 12:05.333 --> 12:06.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and community together in immigrant communities, 12:06.866 --> 12:08.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and that is why we are now the safest big city 12:08.900 --> 12:10.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in America, it's part of what got us there." 12:10.533 --> 12:11.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And isn't it consistent, Mr. Mayor, 12:11.800 --> 12:13.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% not just in Texas, but all over the country, 12:13.666 --> 12:16.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% that law enforcement tends to think that those laws 12:16.066 --> 12:18.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% actually don't improve public safety? 12:18.733 --> 12:19.933 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - Actually-- 12:19.933 --> 12:21.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - In fact, they create disincentives 12:21.466 --> 12:23.000 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% for people in the undocumented community 12:23.000 --> 12:24.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to come forward and report crimes. 12:24.900 --> 12:27.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Yeah, what I have seen from law enforcement leadership 12:27.400 --> 12:29.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% all over the country is exactly that. 12:29.766 --> 12:31.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% They need the dialogue and the open channel-- 12:31.666 --> 12:32.866 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Right. 12:32.866 --> 12:34.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Between immigrants and police to be there, 12:34.333 --> 12:36.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and if you ask someone's documentation status, 12:36.833 --> 12:39.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% you're basically asking them not to come forward 12:39.133 --> 12:40.466 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% if they see or witness a crime, 12:40.466 --> 12:41.700 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% or they're a victim of a crime. 12:41.700 --> 12:43.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% So to wrap together to your previous point, 12:43.966 --> 12:45.766 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% what I feel, in that case-- 12:45.766 --> 12:47.300 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Yep. 12:47.300 --> 12:48.800 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - We've been threatened with our funding being taken back, 12:48.800 --> 12:50.266 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% funding that helps us fight terrorism, for example. 12:50.266 --> 12:51.766 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 12:51.766 --> 12:53.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - We're gonna stand and fight to keep that funding. 12:53.333 --> 12:55.766 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% And we believe, constitutionally, we're on very firm ground. 12:55.766 --> 12:57.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - But that's a harder fight than climate. 12:57.166 --> 12:58.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Climate seems to be, relative to sanctuary cities, 12:58.900 --> 13:00.733 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% more of a polite disagreement. 13:00.733 --> 13:03.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Sanctuary city is a fight, and it's not just a fight 13:03.200 --> 13:05.033 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% where you are, but it's a fight all over the country. 13:05.033 --> 13:06.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% And unlike climate, which the President 13:06.733 --> 13:08.666 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% didn't necessarily seem to care all that much about 13:08.666 --> 13:11.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% during the campaign, he made sanctuary cities 13:11.300 --> 13:13.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and legislation around immigration 13:13.033 --> 13:14.900 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% the basis for his campaign. 13:14.900 --> 13:16.633 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% Is he gonna relent? 13:16.633 --> 13:18.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I don't think he will want to relent. 13:18.633 --> 13:21.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Big campaign issue for him going into the next election. 13:21.600 --> 13:23.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Perhaps, although again, look at 13:23.833 --> 13:25.700 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% the public opinion polling around the country. 13:25.700 --> 13:28.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Look at the views that Americans have about the Dreamers, 13:28.400 --> 13:29.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% for example, I think there's a lot 13:29.833 --> 13:32.600 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% more open mindedness than is often ascribed. 13:32.600 --> 13:35.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I think the President obsessively focuses on his base. 13:35.466 --> 13:36.400 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Yep. 13:36.400 --> 13:37.900 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - But we see the polling. 13:37.900 --> 13:40.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% His base is somewhere in the 30 to 35 percent range 13:40.400 --> 13:42.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in terms of the total of the American people. 13:42.133 --> 13:43.400 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 13:43.400 --> 13:47.000 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - To the core point you raise, look, in the end, 13:47.000 --> 13:50.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% there is a dynamic, there is a reality of local control, 13:50.600 --> 13:52.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% on some of the most fundamental things 13:52.233 --> 13:53.733 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% affecting peoples' lives. 13:53.733 --> 13:55.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% If the federal government or a state government 13:55.233 --> 13:56.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% want to try and turn it on its head 13:56.533 --> 13:58.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and say "Oh, wait, wait, you're creatures of us, 13:58.766 --> 14:00.366 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% so we're not going to allow you to do 14:00.366 --> 14:02.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% what you wanna do," that, politically, is untenable. 14:02.333 --> 14:04.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% At a certain point, the emerging majorities 14:04.633 --> 14:05.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% on these issues take over the situation. 14:05.900 --> 14:07.466 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - If not immediately, then soon. 14:07.466 --> 14:08.666 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% - Exactly. - Right. 14:08.666 --> 14:10.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And so, for example, on climate change, 14:10.733 --> 14:13.600 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and this is both growing awareness 14:13.600 --> 14:14.766 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% among people all over the country, 14:14.766 --> 14:16.100 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% but it's clearly generational as well. 14:16.100 --> 14:18.966 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% Every single day, there are more young people 14:18.966 --> 14:21.300 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% who are registering to vote, who fundamentally believe 14:21.300 --> 14:23.066 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that climate change threatens their futures. 14:23.066 --> 14:24.000 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Right. 14:24.000 --> 14:24.933 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - They want to see action. 14:24.933 --> 14:26.466 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% They will stand by that action. 14:26.466 --> 14:28.100 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% If their state government tries to stand in the way, 14:28.100 --> 14:30.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% or their federal government, they will act on that. 14:30.200 --> 14:31.633 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - They'll be the pushback. 14:31.633 --> 14:33.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Speaking of young people, is guns going to be 14:33.133 --> 14:35.066 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% the next frontier for mayors? 14:35.066 --> 14:37.133 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% I mean, obviously, the federal government's 14:37.133 --> 14:39.400 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% disposition on guns has been shifting back and forth 14:39.400 --> 14:40.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and back and forth, depending on 14:40.333 --> 14:41.833 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% who the President last talked to 14:41.833 --> 14:42.766 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Bill] Yeah. 14:42.766 --> 14:43.700 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - Over the last couple of weeks. 14:43.700 --> 14:44.633 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% But the reality is, if you look 14:44.633 --> 14:46.100 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% at the public opinion polling, 14:46.100 --> 14:48.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% not just after Parkland, but frankly before Parkland, 14:48.533 --> 14:50.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% on things like ban on high-capacity magazines, 14:50.900 --> 14:52.133 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 14:52.133 --> 14:53.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Limitations on access to automatic weapons, 14:53.766 --> 14:57.166 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% strengthen background checks, the public has really been, 14:57.166 --> 14:59.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% maybe as far back as Sandy Hook, or before-- 14:59.433 --> 15:00.766 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yes. 15:00.766 --> 15:02.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - 60, 70, 80 percent in red parts of the country 15:02.900 --> 15:04.200 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and blue parts of the country-- 15:04.200 --> 15:05.666 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - That's right. 15:05.666 --> 15:06.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - For these things, and yet Congress has not acted. 15:06.866 --> 15:08.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Can the cities take over that issue as well? 15:08.733 --> 15:11.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - We can't take it over, but we can help build the movement 15:11.500 --> 15:12.933 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% that will achieve the change. 15:12.933 --> 15:14.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% So when you talk about the gun issue, 15:14.833 --> 15:16.466 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% there has been a huge opening, 15:16.466 --> 15:19.033 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% in terms of actual public opinion, for years. 15:19.033 --> 15:21.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% The x factor now is these Parkland students 15:21.333 --> 15:24.633 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% have done something, I literally cannot find a parallel, 15:24.633 --> 15:27.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% unless you go back to the 60s and 70s. 15:27.433 --> 15:30.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% A high school student starting to be active-- 15:30.200 --> 15:31.633 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Yep. 15:31.633 --> 15:32.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - In this way, and having this kind of impact, 15:32.900 --> 15:34.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% their moral voice is extraordinary. 15:34.433 --> 15:36.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - And completely counter to the rap on that generation, 15:36.933 --> 15:38.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% which is, they would just as soon be on Snapchat 15:38.833 --> 15:40.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% all the time and not be paying attention to this stuff. 15:40.466 --> 15:42.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Which is a fundamental misunderstanding, you know, I-- 15:42.500 --> 15:43.766 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - Well you've got kids this age, 15:43.766 --> 15:45.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% you know these kids, these are your kids. 15:45.466 --> 15:47.200 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - Let me tell you, I am struck, 15:47.200 --> 15:50.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% my daughter Chiara is 23, my son Dante is 20, 15:50.866 --> 15:53.766 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and I was always struck, when they were growing up, 15:53.766 --> 15:57.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% they were really serious about the world around them. 15:57.400 --> 15:58.833 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Yep. 15:58.833 --> 16:00.166 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - And I said, I kept trying to figure out why, 16:00.166 --> 16:02.066 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and I was watching in 2015 and 2016 16:02.066 --> 16:03.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% during the presidential campaigns, 16:03.533 --> 16:06.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% you saw this super evolving youth energy, 16:06.933 --> 16:08.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% obviously a lot of it for Bernie Sanders, 16:08.733 --> 16:11.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% but you saw a different kind of youth presence 16:11.033 --> 16:11.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in the campaign than we've seen for awhile-- 16:11.900 --> 16:12.833 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 16:12.833 --> 16:14.100 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - And here's my analysis. 16:14.100 --> 16:16.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% These young people grew up with global warming, 16:16.333 --> 16:18.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% they grew up with the Great Recession, 16:18.433 --> 16:21.433 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% they grew up with the fear of crippling college debt. 16:21.433 --> 16:22.666 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 16:22.666 --> 16:25.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I liken them, in a way, to the generation 16:25.033 --> 16:27.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that my parents were from that had grown up 16:27.100 --> 16:28.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% with the Depression, and World War Two, 16:28.666 --> 16:31.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and had a kind of worldly wisdom as a result of that. 16:31.200 --> 16:34.600 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I think this generation is focused, 16:34.600 --> 16:37.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and has tools to organize that for the rest of us, 16:37.866 --> 16:39.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% when we were young, we could not have imagined 16:39.466 --> 16:40.933 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% in our wildest dreams. 16:40.933 --> 16:42.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - And in addition to that, kind of on the affirmative side, 16:42.200 --> 16:44.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% this generation is going to have less of an issue 16:44.300 --> 16:45.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% with same-sex marriage, potentially, 16:45.966 --> 16:47.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% this is gonna have less of an issue 16:47.233 --> 16:49.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% with reproductive rights, potentially-- 16:49.266 --> 16:50.700 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Bill] Yep. 16:50.700 --> 16:52.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Less of an issue with diverse populations, necessarily, 16:52.133 --> 16:53.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% because for them, that's sort of like, ugh. 16:53.966 --> 16:55.533 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% We're past that fight already. 16:55.533 --> 16:57.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% For them, that's kind of like, let's just keep going. 16:57.466 --> 16:58.666 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - That's right. 16:58.666 --> 17:00.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - The overturning of them all generationally 17:00.433 --> 17:02.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% is going to create some interesting opportunities 17:02.133 --> 17:03.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% in this country, to finally get at some of these problems. 17:03.966 --> 17:05.233 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Well, I think that's-- 17:05.233 --> 17:06.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - At least you can be hopeful that it will. 17:06.300 --> 17:07.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I am very hopeful. - Yeah. 17:07.533 --> 17:08.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And I think it's a redefinitional moment, 17:08.966 --> 17:10.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I think that the generation coming up 17:10.466 --> 17:12.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% is going to fundamentally change the ground rules 17:12.233 --> 17:13.100 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% of American politics. 17:13.100 --> 17:14.300 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Right. 17:14.300 --> 17:15.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And I, look, it's already started. 17:15.800 --> 17:17.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I think we are focused, of course, on the results 17:17.733 --> 17:20.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% of election night, November 8th-- 17:20.166 --> 17:21.733 align:left position:40%,start line:83% size:50% - 2016 - 2016 17:21.733 --> 17:23.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% We gotta remember what was happening the day before, 17:23.233 --> 17:24.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and for the year or two before that, 17:24.766 --> 17:27.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% where, in the case of the Bernie Sanders movement-- 17:27.500 --> 17:28.733 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% - Right. - For example, 17:28.733 --> 17:30.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% you saw a whole new kind of politics, 17:30.233 --> 17:32.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% you saw a kind of grassroots activism 17:32.933 --> 17:35.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and, obviously, the ability to generate the resources 17:35.900 --> 17:37.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% for a campaign on a national scale 17:37.866 --> 17:39.033 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% that we never could've imagined. 17:39.033 --> 17:40.200 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 17:40.200 --> 17:41.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Politics in America was shifting 17:41.666 --> 17:43.666 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% before the election of Trump, the election of Trump then 17:43.666 --> 17:46.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% supercharged it, things like the Women's March, 17:46.466 --> 17:48.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% the single biggest demonstration in the country. 17:48.233 --> 17:49.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - So you believe that the Women's March 17:49.466 --> 17:51.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and the protests at airports like LaGuardia 17:51.166 --> 17:52.900 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and JFK over the refugee ban, 17:52.900 --> 17:56.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% and the protests in the streets over ICE deportations 17:56.133 --> 17:57.466 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and everything else, that these 17:57.466 --> 17:58.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% will ultimately translate into votes? 17:58.933 --> 18:00.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Because I have to tell you, I'm skeptical. 18:00.666 --> 18:02.200 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I see moments not movements. 18:02.200 --> 18:03.633 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I will believe that these things 18:03.633 --> 18:04.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% are going to be meaningful politically 18:04.966 --> 18:06.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% when the same people in the streets, 18:06.533 --> 18:08.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in the pussycat hats or in the airport gates, 18:08.533 --> 18:09.966 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% actually go to vote. 18:09.966 --> 18:11.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We know that voter turnout in this country 18:11.533 --> 18:12.733 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% is not what it oughta be. 18:12.733 --> 18:13.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Well, so I wanna say two quick things. 18:13.633 --> 18:15.133 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 18:15.133 --> 18:16.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - One, I believe they will, and I think if you look at 18:16.066 --> 18:18.300 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% the elections of November 2017, 18:18.300 --> 18:20.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and everything since, these turnouts surges-- 18:20.733 --> 18:22.200 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% - That's a tell. - We're seeing-- 18:22.200 --> 18:23.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Yeah, it's something that's going on that's deeper. 18:23.833 --> 18:26.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% The second thing I'd say is, we need to address 18:26.333 --> 18:27.566 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% the problem of democracy. 18:27.566 --> 18:29.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% So, in our state we have, actually, 18:29.866 --> 18:31.666 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% very backward election laws. 18:31.666 --> 18:33.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - It is hard to register to vote. 18:33.400 --> 18:34.600 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Yeah. 18:34.600 --> 18:36.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - You don't have same day registration. 18:36.133 --> 18:37.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% We don't have early voting, we don't have vote by mail. 18:37.566 --> 18:39.100 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Texas, by the way, says to New York on that, 18:39.100 --> 18:41.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% "Hold my beer," as far as, like difficulties to vote. 18:41.533 --> 18:43.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - You think you have it bad, but-- 18:43.466 --> 18:46.800 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Well, I hear you, but I want to wrap it together. 18:46.800 --> 18:49.466 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Yeah, but New York, my beloved, 18:49.466 --> 18:52.500 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% very self congratulatory New York, 18:52.500 --> 18:54.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% meanwhile, has laws that are not helping people vote, 18:54.933 --> 18:56.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and actually stand in the way of it. 18:56.100 --> 18:57.500 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Yeah. 18:57.500 --> 18:59.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - So, physician, heal thyself, I say to New Yorkers. 18:59.066 --> 19:02.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Look, we have two million people eligible 19:02.633 --> 19:03.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to register in the state of New York, 19:03.900 --> 19:05.933 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% who are not registered. 19:05.933 --> 19:07.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We can fix that, so what I've announced 19:07.733 --> 19:09.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% as a democracy agenda for New York City, 19:09.300 --> 19:11.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% we have set a registration goal for the city. 19:11.900 --> 19:13.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Absolutely non-partisan, we want everyone 19:13.800 --> 19:15.133 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% of every background to sign up. 19:15.133 --> 19:16.300 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 19:16.300 --> 19:17.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - But we want to register 1.5 million, 19:17.566 --> 19:19.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% 1.5 million New Yorkers in the next four years. 19:19.333 --> 19:20.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We've got a Chief Democracy Officer. 19:20.866 --> 19:22.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We want someone who is constantly looking at 19:22.566 --> 19:26.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% the ways to encourage involvement and participation, 19:26.133 --> 19:27.500 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% we're gonna do civics education 19:27.500 --> 19:28.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% a very different way in our schools. 19:28.933 --> 19:32.033 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% It's been staid and uninvolving for kids for a long time. 19:32.033 --> 19:33.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We're going to encourage kids to get involved 19:33.900 --> 19:36.100 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% in the issues of the day, and actually learn how to be-- 19:36.100 --> 19:38.700 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - And to those people who are critics, Mr. Mayor, 19:38.700 --> 19:40.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% of this effort, and say "What you're really trying to do 19:40.900 --> 19:42.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% is indoctrinate, not educate, and what you're really 19:42.600 --> 19:45.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% trying to do is to turn out Democratic votes, 19:45.166 --> 19:47.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% not turn out votes," your response is what? 19:47.533 --> 19:50.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - It's, we're going to do a non-partisan drive. 19:50.466 --> 19:52.433 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I don't care what you believe. 19:52.433 --> 19:54.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - I want you involved. - Right, just participate. 19:54.466 --> 19:56.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - I think it is about the health of this city, my city-- 19:56.900 --> 19:58.366 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Right. - My state, but also 19:58.366 --> 19:59.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% the whole country going forward. 19:59.333 --> 20:00.800 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - Right, yeah. 20:00.800 --> 20:01.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - But let me tell you, we're also going to go to 20:01.733 --> 20:03.233 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% public financing of elections. 20:03.233 --> 20:04.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Taking big money out of politics encourages people 20:04.933 --> 20:07.166 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% to run locally, encourages people to believe 20:07.166 --> 20:08.633 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% that their vote matters. 20:08.633 --> 20:10.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% This, to me, is one of these transcendent things 20:10.533 --> 20:12.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that could actually change and reengage 20:12.266 --> 20:14.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the democratic process in the country. 20:14.433 --> 20:17.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% So, I think we're in a very exciting moment, 20:17.133 --> 20:18.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% but we've gotta tend to our democracy. 20:18.966 --> 20:20.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% It's been hurting for a lotta years, 20:20.466 --> 20:22.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% but not for lack of concern. 20:22.333 --> 20:23.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% The concern levels, the interest levels, 20:23.800 --> 20:25.733 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% are shooting upward. 20:25.733 --> 20:28.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% We've gotta figure out how to now align our laws 20:28.400 --> 20:30.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% to actually meet that moment, and the last point 20:30.200 --> 20:32.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I want to make is Alabama, which is very telling. 20:32.200 --> 20:33.700 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 20:33.700 --> 20:35.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Even with the repressive laws, my editorial comment, 20:35.233 --> 20:38.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% laws that were meant to restrict voter participation, 20:38.066 --> 20:40.466 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% you saw the result in the U.S. Senate race. 20:40.466 --> 20:42.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Well, if you ran a child molester in every election, 20:42.733 --> 20:43.700 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% you guys would win. 20:43.700 --> 20:45.366 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience laughs) 20:45.366 --> 20:47.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - And I gotta tell you, I appreciate that analysis, 20:47.500 --> 20:48.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% but I think there's something else going on 20:48.866 --> 20:50.466 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% that's been under analyzed. 20:50.466 --> 20:51.866 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Okay. 20:51.866 --> 20:53.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Doug Jones was a candidate who actually spoke 20:53.733 --> 20:55.600 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to people's minds and their hearts. 20:55.600 --> 20:57.866 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% He had done something powerful and meaningful 20:57.866 --> 20:59.166 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% in his work as U.S. Attorney. 20:59.166 --> 21:00.766 align:left position:30%,start line:5% size:60% - [Evan] Yeah. 21:00.766 --> 21:03.733 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% - The level of activity and organizing and door knocking 21:03.733 --> 21:06.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that was happening was far beyond the question 21:06.300 --> 21:07.800 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% of who Roy Moore was. 21:07.800 --> 21:10.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% And if you look at the turnout in Alabama in that election, 21:10.133 --> 21:11.766 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% with all the barriers, there's like, 21:11.766 --> 21:13.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% people had to jump a bunch of hurdles 21:13.933 --> 21:15.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to get to their polling station-- 21:15.233 --> 21:16.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - But they got there. - But they got there 21:16.333 --> 21:17.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in record numbers. - Right. 21:17.533 --> 21:19.000 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - That says something about the moment. 21:19.000 --> 21:21.466 align:left position:10%,start line:5% size:80% - And that was about candidate recruitment on Mr. Jones, 21:21.466 --> 21:23.233 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% to a great degree, they got a good candidate, 21:23.233 --> 21:24.700 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% and we have just a couple minutes left. 21:24.700 --> 21:26.366 align:left position:20%,start line:5% size:70% On the subject of candidate recruitment, 21:26.366 --> 21:28.033 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% are you recruiting Cynthia Nixon 21:28.033 --> 21:29.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to run against Andrew Cuomo for governor? 21:29.900 --> 21:30.833 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - No. 21:30.833 --> 21:32.100 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - Why do people think you are? 21:32.100 --> 21:34.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% She is a political ally of yours, let's just say 21:34.266 --> 21:35.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% that you and the governor are not exactly 21:35.833 --> 21:37.533 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% America's fun couple, right? 21:37.533 --> 21:39.100 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience laughs) 21:39.100 --> 21:41.633 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% We think we have cities versus state tension in Texas, 21:41.633 --> 21:44.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% nothing compared to what you have there. 21:44.400 --> 21:47.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% She's talking about running. - Yeah. 21:47.566 --> 21:49.000 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - It's like, I go to bed at night, 21:49.000 --> 21:50.500 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% there's no snow on the ground, 21:50.500 --> 21:51.766 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I wake up in the morning there's snow on the ground, 21:51.766 --> 21:53.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I didn't see it snow, but I know it's snowed. 21:53.966 --> 21:56.000 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% You want to tell me you have nothing to do with this? 21:56.000 --> 21:57.200 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience laughs) 21:57.200 --> 21:59.366 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Okay, that, your analogy is fascinating, 21:59.366 --> 22:00.366 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% I know explain how-- 22:00.366 --> 22:01.933 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience laughs) 22:01.933 --> 22:03.700 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - I mean, come on, I don't see your fingerprints on it, 22:03.700 --> 22:05.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% but you're not telling me they're there? 22:05.033 --> 22:07.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Evan, Evan, let me explain how snow works. 22:07.333 --> 22:08.500 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience laughs) 22:08.500 --> 22:09.333 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Okay, all right. 22:11.100 --> 22:12.900 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - It gets very cold, and then. 22:12.900 --> 22:13.733 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - I get it, okay. 22:13.733 --> 22:14.933 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience laughs) 22:14.933 --> 22:16.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I am not involved in that effort. 22:16.266 --> 22:17.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - It's not snowing in the governor's race. 22:17.733 --> 22:20.100 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Yes, it's not, okay. 22:20.100 --> 22:21.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% One, I'm not involved in the effort, 22:21.966 --> 22:23.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% two, I don't know what she's gonna do, 22:23.400 --> 22:25.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% three, she has been a prominent political activist 22:25.966 --> 22:28.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in New York state for many many years. 22:28.333 --> 22:30.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - I'm not suggesting this is, like, Cardi B running, 22:30.866 --> 22:32.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I'm suggesting that this is actually-- 22:32.433 --> 22:33.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I am impressed by your cultural relevance. 22:33.566 --> 22:35.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Thanks very much. - Very good. 22:35.200 --> 22:36.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - We both have teenagers. - Yeah. 22:36.466 --> 22:38.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - The point is she is not showing up 22:38.566 --> 22:40.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% having not been involved in politics or in activism, 22:40.833 --> 22:42.600 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% stipulated, but still she is somebody 22:42.600 --> 22:44.800 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% who shares your political view - Yes. 22:44.800 --> 22:46.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - progressive politics - Yeah. 22:46.266 --> 22:47.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Is to the left of Governor Cuomo on a lot of issues 22:47.733 --> 22:49.000 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 22:49.000 --> 22:50.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And has been an ally of yours, so one would-- 22:50.300 --> 22:51.500 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I understand that. - One would wonder. 22:51.500 --> 22:53.600 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - But I'm just saying it very clearly. 22:53.600 --> 22:55.300 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Not involved, I don't know what she's going to do, 22:55.300 --> 22:56.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I think what is happening, though, 22:56.666 --> 22:58.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% is happening all over the country. 22:58.266 --> 23:01.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% We are seeing progressives in the Democratic Party 23:01.833 --> 23:04.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% questioning the status quo all over this country. 23:04.600 --> 23:06.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% And not accepting the old ground rules. 23:06.533 --> 23:09.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% If you've got an incumbent Democrat, 23:09.266 --> 23:10.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% it used to be the message within the party is 23:10.733 --> 23:12.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% "Oh, don't challenge the incumbent." 23:12.333 --> 23:13.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Friendly incumbent rule, right. 23:13.566 --> 23:14.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Right, and oh, we've gotta worry 23:14.700 --> 23:16.166 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% about what happens in the fall. 23:16.166 --> 23:18.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% That's not being accepted, all over the country. 23:18.966 --> 23:20.200 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 23:20.200 --> 23:21.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I think progressives and Democrats are saying 23:21.433 --> 23:23.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% we need a progressive party both morally, 23:23.033 --> 23:26.100 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% we believe in those values, but if we wanna win nationally, 23:26.100 --> 23:27.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% we've gotta get back to our core values, 23:27.866 --> 23:30.033 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% we've gotta have a strong populist economic message, 23:30.033 --> 23:32.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% but populism in the sense of actually trying to serve 23:32.133 --> 23:34.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% everyday people, we've gotta be willing 23:34.133 --> 23:36.766 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% to say things like "We're going to tax the wealthy, 23:36.766 --> 23:38.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% so that working people can have a better life." 23:38.966 --> 23:43.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% There's a set of ideas that progressives believe in, 23:43.333 --> 23:47.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% that are basically non-negotiable at this point. 23:47.733 --> 23:49.233 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 23:49.233 --> 23:52.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Meaning, if our candidates are not evincing those values, 23:52.833 --> 23:55.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% if our national party is not evincing those values, 23:55.466 --> 23:57.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% progressives are gonna challenge it. 23:57.700 --> 24:01.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% We don't think it's ideal to just stay home and stay back. 24:01.133 --> 24:02.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - So you don't run from, Mr. Mayor, 24:02.700 --> 24:05.100 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% the divide in the Democratic Party at the moment, 24:05.100 --> 24:06.366 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% you run toward it. 24:06.366 --> 24:07.600 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Absolutely, because I believe it's going to be 24:07.600 --> 24:09.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% ultimately an act of healing, I really do. 24:09.833 --> 24:11.066 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 24:11.066 --> 24:12.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I think that, look, I grew up a believer 24:12.933 --> 24:15.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% in the party of Franklin Roosevelt-- 24:15.100 --> 24:16.333 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 24:16.333 --> 24:18.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And by the way, tip of the cap to Texas' own, 24:18.266 --> 24:20.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Lyndon Baines Johnson, for what he achieved 24:20.533 --> 24:23.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% as President, and I think it's underrated in many ways 24:23.900 --> 24:26.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% what his domestic agenda was for this country. 24:28.300 --> 24:30.033 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - He also, by the way, was attacked from the left. 24:30.033 --> 24:31.266 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - Unquestionably. 24:31.266 --> 24:32.166 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I mean, the fact is, this is not a new thing. 24:32.166 --> 24:33.300 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - No, and thank you! 24:33.300 --> 24:34.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% A very important historical perspective, 24:34.666 --> 24:36.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% it's not a new thing because, unfortunately, 24:36.700 --> 24:38.500 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% on foreign policy in particular, 24:38.500 --> 24:39.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% he governed very much as a conservative, 24:39.900 --> 24:42.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% but my point is, the Democratic Party 24:42.433 --> 24:46.000 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% has an essential nature, as a party of working people. 24:46.000 --> 24:49.033 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% A party that is willing to challenge powerful forces 24:49.033 --> 24:50.533 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% on behalf of working people. 24:50.533 --> 24:54.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% That got lost, in many ways, over more recent decades. 24:54.500 --> 24:56.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% What's happening now, and again, it goes back 24:56.200 --> 24:58.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% to the Recession, it goes back to Occupy Wall Street, 24:58.066 --> 24:59.466 align:left position:30%,start line:83% size:60% there's a lot of things pre-Trump 24:59.466 --> 25:00.633 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% that were already building this. 25:00.633 --> 25:02.100 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Yep. 25:02.100 --> 25:03.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Bernie Sanders' movement occurred before anyone 25:03.066 --> 25:04.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% thought Trump was serious. 25:04.333 --> 25:06.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% All of these pieces are coming together, 25:06.400 --> 25:07.533 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and Democrats around the country 25:07.533 --> 25:08.566 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% who are progressive, are saying 25:08.566 --> 25:10.366 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% "We're gonna remake this party. 25:10.366 --> 25:12.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We are going to have an identifiable party." 25:12.866 --> 25:14.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% This is the important point, Evan. 25:14.400 --> 25:16.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% If you don't know what Democrat stands for, 25:16.733 --> 25:18.200 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% the Democrat will lose. 25:18.200 --> 25:19.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% This is some what happened in the 2016 election. 25:19.566 --> 25:20.400 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% - Right. 25:20.400 --> 25:21.833 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% - All over the country. 25:21.833 --> 25:23.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - Democrats were against something, not for something. 25:23.066 --> 25:26.366 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - And Democrats did not have a differentiation 25:26.366 --> 25:28.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% from Republicans that was sharp and clear enough 25:28.133 --> 25:30.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to actually motivate all those people 25:30.433 --> 25:33.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% who went to Trump, a lot of them had voted for Obama before, 25:33.333 --> 25:36.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% they didn't feel there was a clear idea, 25:36.133 --> 25:37.933 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% a clear vision that would change their lives. 25:37.933 --> 25:39.266 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% We gotta recapture that. 25:39.266 --> 25:41.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - The big message is differentiate yourself, 25:41.533 --> 25:44.000 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% don't be a faked Republican, be a real Democrat. 25:44.000 --> 25:45.366 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - Correct. 25:45.366 --> 25:46.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% - And then that's the political future for the party. 25:46.500 --> 25:47.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Both, again, morally, in my opinion-- 25:47.966 --> 25:49.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Right. - And practically. 25:49.266 --> 25:50.200 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% - Mr. Mayor, we're outta time. 25:50.200 --> 25:51.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Great treat to be with you, sir. 25:51.333 --> 25:52.566 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - Thank you. 25:52.566 --> 25:53.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Mayor Bill DeBlasio, thank you very much. 25:53.966 --> 25:56.633 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% (audience cheers) 25:56.633 --> 25:58.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% We'd love to have you join us in the studio. 25:58.200 --> 26:02.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Visit our website at KLRU.org/overheard 26:02.233 --> 26:04.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to find invitations to interviews, 26:04.433 --> 26:06.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Q and As with our audience and guests, 26:06.800 --> 26:08.966 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% and an archive of past episodes. 26:10.100 --> 26:12.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - I think it's gonna be a Democratic 26:12.400 --> 26:14.500 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and progressive rallying cry going forward, 26:14.500 --> 26:18.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to rescind the tax giveaways to the wealthy 26:18.266 --> 26:21.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and corporations, and what was a very unfair, 26:21.300 --> 26:23.066 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% in my view, effort to take away 26:23.066 --> 26:24.600 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% state and local deductibility. 26:24.600 --> 26:26.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Been part of this country for over a hundred years-- 26:26.900 --> 26:28.133 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% - [Evan] Yeah. 26:28.133 --> 26:29.400 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% - Affected about 100 million Americans, 26:29.400 --> 26:32.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% I don't think that action is forever.