1 00:00:02,202 --> 00:00:04,137 >> FUNDING FOR "OVERHEARD" 2 00:00:04,137 --> 00:00:05,438 WITH EVAN SMITH IS PROVIDED 3 00:00:05,438 --> 00:00:07,440 IN PART BY THE MATTSSON 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,243 MCHAIL FOUNDATION, IN 5 00:00:10,243 --> 00:00:11,444 SUPPORT OF PUBLIC 6 00:00:11,444 --> 00:00:14,347 TELEVISION, ALSO BY MFI 7 00:00:14,347 --> 00:00:15,548 FOUNDATION, IMPROVING THE 8 00:00:15,548 --> 00:00:16,549 QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN OUR 9 00:00:16,549 --> 00:00:17,951 COMMUNITY AND FROM THE TEXAS 10 00:00:17,951 --> 00:00:19,052 BOARD OF LEGAL 11 00:00:19,052 --> 00:00:21,254 SPECIALIZATION, BOARD 12 00:00:21,254 --> 00:00:22,355 CERTIFIED ATTORNEYS IN YOUR 13 00:00:22,355 --> 00:00:23,156 COMMUNITY. 14 00:00:23,156 --> 00:00:24,357 EXPERIENCED, RESPECTED AND 15 00:00:24,357 --> 00:00:24,858 TESTED. 16 00:00:24,858 --> 00:00:27,060 ALSO BY HILLCO PARTNERS, 17 00:00:27,060 --> 00:00:28,194 TEXAS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 18 00:00:28,194 --> 00:00:30,497 CONSULTANCY AND ITS GLOBAL 19 00:00:30,497 --> 00:00:31,498 HEALTHCARE CONSULTING 20 00:00:31,498 --> 00:00:33,600 BUSINESS, HILLCO HEALTH AND 21 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,003 BY THE ALICE KLEBERG 22 00:00:37,003 --> 00:00:38,905 REYNOLDS FOUNDATION AND 23 00:00:38,905 --> 00:00:41,207 VIEWERS LIKE YOU, THANK YOU. 24 00:00:41,207 --> 00:00:42,308 >> WE HAVE 15 MILLION KIDS 25 00:00:42,308 --> 00:00:43,810 WHO GROW UP BEHIND THE 26 00:00:43,810 --> 00:00:44,611 POVERTY LINE. 27 00:00:44,611 --> 00:00:45,311 >> MOST AMERICANS WANT THE 28 00:00:45,311 --> 00:00:46,513 SAME THING, A GOOD JOB. 29 00:00:46,513 --> 00:00:48,014 >> I REALIZED THERE WEREN'T 30 00:00:48,014 --> 00:00:48,915 A LOT OF PEOPLE WRITING 31 00:00:48,915 --> 00:00:50,617 THINGS IN MY VOICE SO I 32 00:00:50,617 --> 00:00:53,019 REALIZED I HAD TO DO IT FOR 33 00:00:53,019 --> 00:00:53,319 MYSELF. 34 00:00:53,319 --> 00:00:54,921 >> AS A KID I LOVE YOU 35 00:00:54,921 --> 00:00:55,321 BECAUSE... 36 00:00:55,321 --> 00:00:56,723 >> WE ARE A BETTER COUNTRY 37 00:00:56,723 --> 00:00:57,824 THAN WE USED TO BE, BUT WE 38 00:00:57,824 --> 00:00:59,125 HAVE MORE TO DO AND WE NEED 39 00:00:59,125 --> 00:01:00,427 TO GET AT IT. 40 00:01:00,427 --> 00:01:01,327 >> I WOULD DO THAT. 41 00:01:01,327 --> 00:01:02,629 I WANTED TO GET THE BUZZ YOU 42 00:01:02,629 --> 00:01:03,630 WOULD GET FROM WORKING AT 43 00:01:03,630 --> 00:01:04,831 THE ABSOLUTE TOP DOLLAR A 44 00:01:04,831 --> 00:01:05,331 YEAR. 45 00:01:05,331 --> 00:01:05,832 [LAUGHTER] 46 00:01:05,832 --> 00:01:07,434 ¶ 47 00:01:07,434 --> 00:01:08,335 ¶ 48 00:01:08,335 --> 00:01:12,138 ¶ 49 00:01:12,138 --> 00:01:13,740 >> WELCOME TO KLRU STUDIO 50 00:01:13,740 --> 00:01:14,341 6A. 51 00:01:14,341 --> 00:01:15,241 WE ARE DELIGHTED YOU ARE 52 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:17,944 HERE AS WE CONTINUE OUR 2013 53 00:01:17,944 --> 00:01:19,045 SUMMER MEMBERSHIP DRIVE. 54 00:01:19,045 --> 00:01:20,547 THE NUMBER TO CALL IS 55 00:01:20,547 --> 00:01:23,049 866-910-KLRU. 56 00:01:23,049 --> 00:01:25,552 910-5578. 57 00:01:25,552 --> 00:01:26,753 WE LOVE YOU TO PICK UP THE 58 00:01:26,753 --> 00:01:27,987 PHONE AND GIVE US A CALL AND 59 00:01:27,987 --> 00:01:30,190 FOR THE NEXT PROGRAM, WE ARE 60 00:01:30,190 --> 00:01:32,392 THRILLED TO HAVE THE SPECIAL 61 00:01:32,392 --> 00:01:33,493 EDITION OF "OVERHEARD" WITH 62 00:01:33,493 --> 00:01:35,095 EVAN SMITH. 63 00:01:35,095 --> 00:01:35,995 "OVERHEARD" IS ONE OF THE 64 00:01:35,995 --> 00:01:37,497 FLAGSHIP PROGRAMS OF KLRU. 65 00:01:37,497 --> 00:01:39,099 IT'S DISTRIBUTED NATIONALLY 66 00:01:39,099 --> 00:01:40,400 AND PLAYS IN MAJOR MARKETS 67 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,501 ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND 68 00:01:41,501 --> 00:01:42,502 TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE 69 00:01:42,502 --> 00:01:44,004 A CHANCE TO SEE THE BEST OF 70 00:01:44,004 --> 00:01:45,405 SEASON THREE OF "OVERHEARD" 71 00:01:45,405 --> 00:01:46,606 WITH EVAN SMITH BUT EVEN 72 00:01:46,606 --> 00:01:47,907 MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE A 73 00:01:47,907 --> 00:01:48,408 CHANCE TO BE WITH EVAN 74 00:01:48,408 --> 00:01:49,409 SMITH, THE HOST OF 75 00:01:49,409 --> 00:01:50,010 "OVERHEARD." 76 00:01:50,010 --> 00:01:51,011 EVAN IS A GREAT FRIEND OF 77 00:01:51,011 --> 00:01:52,812 THE STATION, A FORMER MEMBER 78 00:01:52,812 --> 00:01:53,613 OF OUR BOARD. 79 00:01:53,613 --> 00:01:55,015 IN FACT, A FORMER CHAIR OF 80 00:01:55,015 --> 00:01:56,116 OUR BOARD, AND CURRENTLY 81 00:01:56,116 --> 00:01:57,617 SERVES AS THE MEMBER OF THE 82 00:01:57,617 --> 00:01:58,718 NATIONAL BOARD OF PBS. 83 00:01:58,718 --> 00:02:00,420 HE IS ONE OF THE FOLKS THAT 84 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:02,222 HAVE HELPED MAKE KLRU WHAT 85 00:02:02,222 --> 00:02:03,523 IT IS AND WE ARE DELIGHTED 86 00:02:03,523 --> 00:02:04,524 TO HAVE HIM HERE THIS 87 00:02:04,524 --> 00:02:05,025 EVENING. 88 00:02:05,025 --> 00:02:06,626 "OVERHEARD" IS IN THIS THIRD 89 00:02:06,626 --> 00:02:09,029 SEASON BUT EVAN SMITH HAS 90 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:11,131 BEEN HOSTING THE SHOWS FOR A 91 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:12,332 DECADE BEGINNING WITH TEXAS 92 00:02:12,332 --> 00:02:14,134 MONTHLY TALKS AND MORE 93 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:15,435 RECENTLY WHEN HE FOUNDED THE 94 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:16,936 TEXAS TRIBUNE, WHICH IS ONE 95 00:02:16,936 --> 00:02:18,238 OF THE NATION'S LEADING NEWS 96 00:02:18,238 --> 00:02:20,240 MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS FOCUSED 97 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,041 ON REPORTING STATE 98 00:02:21,041 --> 00:02:21,941 GOVERNMENT HERE IN TEXAS AND 99 00:02:21,941 --> 00:02:23,243 HE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO 100 00:02:23,243 --> 00:02:24,744 RECREATE THE SHOW AND WE HAD 101 00:02:24,744 --> 00:02:25,745 INCREDIBLE GUESTS AND 102 00:02:25,745 --> 00:02:26,746 TONIGHT YOU WILL SEE SEVERAL 103 00:02:26,746 --> 00:02:27,147 OF THEM. 104 00:02:27,147 --> 00:02:28,682 WE HAVE SEVERAL CLIPS FOR 105 00:02:28,682 --> 00:02:28,982 YOU. 106 00:02:28,982 --> 00:02:30,984 SOME PROVOCATIVE STATEMENTS, 107 00:02:30,984 --> 00:02:32,085 SOME FUNNY THINGS, SOME 108 00:02:32,085 --> 00:02:32,986 INTERESTING THINGS AND A 109 00:02:32,986 --> 00:02:34,287 CHANCE TO SIT AND CHAT WITH 110 00:02:34,287 --> 00:02:35,889 EVAN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS 111 00:02:35,889 --> 00:02:37,791 OBSERVATION ON THOSE 112 00:02:37,791 --> 00:02:38,892 EXPERIENCES AND IT IS MY 113 00:02:38,892 --> 00:02:41,194 PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE EVAN 114 00:02:41,194 --> 00:02:41,294 SMITH. 115 00:02:41,294 --> 00:02:43,096 >> BILL, THANK YOU SO MUCH 116 00:02:43,096 --> 00:02:44,998 AND ALWAYS HAPPY TO BE HERE 117 00:02:44,998 --> 00:02:46,700 ON STUDIO 6A AND ON THIS 118 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:47,901 GREAT STAGE WHERE I SPENT SO 119 00:02:47,901 --> 00:02:50,303 MANY HALF HOURS INTERVIEWING 120 00:02:50,303 --> 00:02:51,404 PEOPLE OVER THE LAST TEN 121 00:02:51,404 --> 00:02:53,506 YEARS AND THEY HAVE AMAZING 122 00:02:53,506 --> 00:02:56,109 GUESTS, AND TONIGHT I GET A 123 00:02:56,109 --> 00:02:58,812 CHANCE TO VISIT WITH FIVE OF 124 00:02:58,812 --> 00:03:00,513 FAVORITE INTERVIEWS OF 125 00:03:00,513 --> 00:03:01,815 SEASON THREE, BEGINNING WITH 126 00:03:01,815 --> 00:03:03,016 GLORIA STEINEM, SOMEBODY WHO 127 00:03:03,016 --> 00:03:03,817 HAD BEEN A GUEST FOR US IN 128 00:03:03,817 --> 00:03:05,618 THE SHOW, GOING ALL THE WAY 129 00:03:05,618 --> 00:03:06,920 BACK TO TEXAS MONTHLY TALKS. 130 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:07,721 WE TRIED TO GET GLORIA 131 00:03:07,721 --> 00:03:08,822 STEINEM REPEATEDLY AND 132 00:03:08,822 --> 00:03:10,523 FINALLY WE WERE FORTUNATE TO 133 00:03:10,523 --> 00:03:11,524 GET HER AS ONE OF THE 134 00:03:11,524 --> 00:03:12,625 EARLIEST SHOWS IN SEASON 135 00:03:12,625 --> 00:03:13,626 THREE AND THE TIMING WAS 136 00:03:13,626 --> 00:03:14,828 FORTUITOUS IF YOU THINK 137 00:03:14,828 --> 00:03:16,229 ABOUT IT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW 138 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:17,731 THE NATION IS ENGAGED, NOT 139 00:03:17,731 --> 00:03:19,132 RIGHT HERE IN TEXAS BUT 140 00:03:19,132 --> 00:03:19,833 AROUND THE COUNTRY. 141 00:03:19,833 --> 00:03:21,134 WE ARE TALKING ABOUT 142 00:03:21,134 --> 00:03:22,435 ABORTION AND REPRODUCTIVE 143 00:03:22,435 --> 00:03:23,737 RIGHTS AND WE ARE TALKING 144 00:03:23,737 --> 00:03:25,338 ABOUT WOMEN'S HEALTH AND 145 00:03:25,338 --> 00:03:26,639 WOMEN'S ISSUES, WHETHER 146 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,541 THERE IS A SO-CALLED WAR ON 147 00:03:28,541 --> 00:03:30,543 WOMEN AND BEFORE THE WENDY 148 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:32,545 DAVIS FILIBUSTER, MONTHS 149 00:03:32,545 --> 00:03:34,147 BEFORE, MONTHS BEFORE THIS 150 00:03:34,147 --> 00:03:35,248 WE BROUGHT GLORIA STEINEM TO 151 00:03:35,248 --> 00:03:35,949 TALK ABOUT THE PORTFOLIO 152 00:03:35,949 --> 00:03:36,950 ISSUES RELATED TO PLANNED 153 00:03:36,950 --> 00:03:38,752 PARENTHOOD, REPRODUCTIVE 154 00:03:38,752 --> 00:03:40,053 RIGHTS AND HER LONG CAREER 155 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:42,355 AS PROBABLY THE MOST FAMOUS 156 00:03:42,355 --> 00:03:43,857 FEMINISTS IN THE WORLD. 157 00:03:43,857 --> 00:03:44,657 GLORIA STEINEM WAS A VERY, 158 00:03:44,657 --> 00:03:46,259 VERY CANDID, WARM AND 159 00:03:46,259 --> 00:03:47,360 EXCITING AND INTERESTING 160 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,561 GUEST AND SHE WAS WILLING TO 161 00:03:48,561 --> 00:03:50,063 MIX IT UP ON WHATS A VERY 162 00:03:50,063 --> 00:03:51,865 CONTROVERSIAL TOPIC FOR A 163 00:03:51,865 --> 00:03:54,267 LOT OF PEOPLE SO WE ARE VERY 164 00:03:54,267 --> 00:03:55,268 PLEASED TO TALK ABOUT THINGS 165 00:03:55,268 --> 00:03:56,069 SPECIFICALLY IN THE NEWS 166 00:03:56,069 --> 00:03:56,870 RIGHT HERE IN TEXAS, 167 00:03:56,870 --> 00:03:57,470 ABORTION, PLANNED 168 00:03:57,470 --> 00:03:58,271 PARENTHOOD, AND THE LIKE 169 00:03:58,271 --> 00:03:59,072 WITH THE GREAT AND 170 00:03:59,072 --> 00:03:59,973 INTERESTING GLORIA STEINEM. 171 00:03:59,973 --> 00:04:04,477 >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT 172 00:04:04,477 --> 00:04:04,778 ABORTION. 173 00:04:04,778 --> 00:04:05,779 I LAID THAT OUT SPECIFICALLY 174 00:04:05,779 --> 00:04:06,880 BECAUSE YOU MADE A COMMENT 175 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:07,781 EARLIER THAT YOU THINK THE 176 00:04:07,781 --> 00:04:08,782 MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE 177 00:04:08,782 --> 00:04:10,383 NOT WITH THE PEOPLE WHO SEEK 178 00:04:10,383 --> 00:04:11,384 TO MAKE THE CHANGES. 179 00:04:11,384 --> 00:04:12,686 I HEAR THE OPPOSITE. 180 00:04:12,686 --> 00:04:13,787 THAT PEOPLE SAY THIS IS NOT 181 00:04:13,787 --> 00:04:15,188 A PRO-CHOICE COUNTRY. 182 00:04:15,188 --> 00:04:16,389 THIS IS REALLY A PRO-LIFE 183 00:04:16,389 --> 00:04:18,091 COUNTRY OR A COUNTRY 184 00:04:18,091 --> 00:04:19,092 RESISTENT TO THE IDEA OF 185 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:21,094 UNRESTRICTED ACCESS TO 186 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:21,494 ABORTION. 187 00:04:21,494 --> 00:04:22,495 WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? 188 00:04:22,495 --> 00:04:23,396 TALK ABOUT -- 189 00:04:23,396 --> 00:04:24,698 >> FIRST OF ALL -- 190 00:04:24,698 --> 00:04:26,199 >> HERE WE ARE IN A WORLD 191 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:29,235 WHERE PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS 192 00:04:29,235 --> 00:04:30,937 BEING DEMONIZED AND THROWN 193 00:04:30,937 --> 00:04:32,339 OUT OF STATE BUDGET AND TOLD 194 00:04:32,339 --> 00:04:34,040 IT CAN'T BE -- 195 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:34,741 >> IN TEXAS. 196 00:04:34,741 --> 00:04:35,642 >> NOT ONLY TEXAS BUT 197 00:04:35,642 --> 00:04:36,743 NATIONALLY PLANNED 198 00:04:36,743 --> 00:04:37,944 PARENTHOOD IS UNDER ATTACK 199 00:04:37,944 --> 00:04:38,745 AS MUCH IN TEXAS. 200 00:04:38,745 --> 00:04:40,547 LOOK AT THE SUSAN B. KOMEN 201 00:04:40,547 --> 00:04:41,448 CONTROVERSY. 202 00:04:41,448 --> 00:04:42,048 >> YES, AND PLANNED 203 00:04:42,048 --> 00:04:43,450 PARENTHOOD WON. 204 00:04:43,450 --> 00:04:44,451 >> RIGHT, SO THAT TELLS 205 00:04:44,451 --> 00:04:44,951 YOU -- 206 00:04:44,951 --> 00:04:45,552 [APPLAUSE] 207 00:04:45,552 --> 00:04:46,553 >> SO THAT TELLS YOU THAT 208 00:04:46,553 --> 00:04:47,954 MAYBE IN THE END AS MUCH AS 209 00:04:47,954 --> 00:04:49,456 PEOPLE MAY ATTACK AN ATTACK, 210 00:04:49,456 --> 00:04:50,457 THEY CAN'T CHANGE -- 211 00:04:50,457 --> 00:04:51,858 >> LOOK, I MEAN, IN REAL 212 00:04:51,858 --> 00:04:53,760 LIFE, AT LEAST ONE IN THREE 213 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:54,561 WOMEN, STATISTICALLY 214 00:04:54,561 --> 00:04:56,363 SPEAKING, HAS HAD AN 215 00:04:56,363 --> 00:04:56,763 ABORTION. 216 00:04:56,763 --> 00:04:58,264 I MEAN, THAT'S REAL LIFE, 217 00:04:58,264 --> 00:05:00,266 RIGHT, AND IT DEPENDS HOW 218 00:05:00,266 --> 00:05:01,768 YOU PHRASE THE QUESTION IN 219 00:05:01,768 --> 00:05:03,269 PUBLIC OPINION POLLS BECAUSE 220 00:05:03,269 --> 00:05:04,270 IF YOU SAY ARE YOU 221 00:05:04,270 --> 00:05:05,271 PRO-ABORTION, NOBODY IS 222 00:05:05,271 --> 00:05:06,673 GOING TO SAY -- YOU KNOW, WE 223 00:05:06,673 --> 00:05:07,774 DON'T GET UP IN THE MORNING 224 00:05:07,774 --> 00:05:09,676 AND SAY IT IS A NICE DAY, I 225 00:05:09,676 --> 00:05:10,777 THINK I WILL HAVE AN 226 00:05:10,777 --> 00:05:12,278 ABORTION. 227 00:05:12,278 --> 00:05:13,279 I MEAN, IT IS NOT A 228 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,181 PLEASURABLE EXPERIENCE. 229 00:05:15,181 --> 00:05:15,582 >> RIGHT. 230 00:05:15,582 --> 00:05:16,583 >> BUT IF YOU PHRASE IT THE 231 00:05:16,583 --> 00:05:17,584 WAY IT SHOULD BE PHRASED 232 00:05:17,584 --> 00:05:18,885 WHICH IS, WHO MAKES A 233 00:05:18,885 --> 00:05:20,387 DECISION, A WOMAN IN HER 234 00:05:20,387 --> 00:05:21,588 POSITION OR THE GOVERNMENT, 235 00:05:21,588 --> 00:05:22,389 PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE 236 00:05:22,389 --> 00:05:23,890 GOVERNMENT MAKING THIS 237 00:05:23,890 --> 00:05:24,391 DECISION. 238 00:05:24,391 --> 00:05:24,691 >> RIGHT. 239 00:05:24,691 --> 00:05:26,192 >> AND ALSO REPRODUCTIVE 240 00:05:26,192 --> 00:05:28,928 FREEDOM WHICH WILL -- IS 241 00:05:28,928 --> 00:05:31,331 BECOMING AND I BELIEVE WILL 242 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:33,233 BECOME A BASIC HUMAN 243 00:05:33,233 --> 00:05:35,135 FREEDOM, LIKE FREEDOM OF 244 00:05:35,135 --> 00:05:37,837 SPEECH, FREEDOM OF ASSEMBLY 245 00:05:37,837 --> 00:05:38,138 AND FREEDOM OF RELIGION. 246 00:05:38,138 --> 00:05:39,639 REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM, TO 247 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:43,243 DECIDE FOR ONE SELF WHETHER 248 00:05:43,243 --> 00:05:44,544 OR NOT TO HAVE CHILDREN IS 249 00:05:44,544 --> 00:05:46,146 BASIC AND IF YOU ALLOW A 250 00:05:46,146 --> 00:05:48,748 GOVERNMENT TO SAY YOU -- 251 00:05:48,748 --> 00:05:50,750 ONE -- DICTATE ONE DECISION, 252 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:51,951 THEY CAN DICTATE THE OTHER 253 00:05:51,951 --> 00:05:52,252 ONE. 254 00:05:52,252 --> 00:05:53,353 I MEAN, PEOPLE -- 255 00:05:53,353 --> 00:05:55,755 >> RIGHT. 256 00:05:55,755 --> 00:05:56,856 >> -- WANT -- I THINK 257 00:05:56,856 --> 00:05:58,758 EVENTUALLY WE WILL END UP 258 00:05:58,758 --> 00:05:59,559 WITH SOMETHING THAT IS MORE 259 00:05:59,559 --> 00:06:01,161 INCLUSIVE OF MEN AND WOMEN 260 00:06:01,161 --> 00:06:02,062 WHICH IS -- I DON'T KNOW 261 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:04,464 WHAT IT WILL BE CALLED BUT I 262 00:06:04,464 --> 00:06:05,865 WOULD SAY IT IS BODILY 263 00:06:05,865 --> 00:06:06,366 INTEGRITY. 264 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:07,767 >> BODILY INTEGRITY? 265 00:06:07,767 --> 00:06:09,369 >> YES, THE POWER OF THE 266 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:10,270 GOVERNMENT STOPS AT OUR 267 00:06:10,270 --> 00:06:10,670 SKIN. 268 00:06:10,670 --> 00:06:12,972 >> THE IDEA HERE WOULD BE NO 269 00:06:12,972 --> 00:06:13,673 GOVERNMENT WILL TELL ME 270 00:06:13,673 --> 00:06:14,774 WHETHER I CAN HAVE AN 271 00:06:14,774 --> 00:06:15,275 ABORTION. 272 00:06:15,275 --> 00:06:15,675 >> RIGHT. 273 00:06:15,675 --> 00:06:16,476 >> NO GOVERNMENT WILL TELL 274 00:06:16,476 --> 00:06:17,377 ME WHETHER OR NOT I CAN USE 275 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:18,278 CONTRACEPTION. 276 00:06:18,278 --> 00:06:18,578 >> RIGHT. 277 00:06:18,578 --> 00:06:19,579 AND NO GOVERNMENT CAN TELL 278 00:06:19,579 --> 00:06:21,081 ME NOT TO HAVE A CHILD. 279 00:06:21,081 --> 00:06:22,982 REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM MEANS 280 00:06:22,982 --> 00:06:24,484 WHAT IT SAYS AND WE HAVE 281 00:06:24,484 --> 00:06:26,386 GONE -- THE WOMEN'S MOVEMENT 282 00:06:26,386 --> 00:06:27,487 HAVE GONE TO THE WALL TO 283 00:06:27,487 --> 00:06:29,122 PROTECT PEOPLE FROM BEING 284 00:06:29,122 --> 00:06:32,525 COERCED INTO AN ABORTION, IN 285 00:06:32,525 --> 00:06:34,928 THE SAME DEGREE WE HAVE 286 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:36,529 FORSAKEN LEGAL ABORTIONS. 287 00:06:36,529 --> 00:06:37,731 >> SO VAGINAL ULTRASOUNDS 288 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:38,832 WHICH WE WERE AN ISSUE IN 289 00:06:38,832 --> 00:06:39,933 TEXAS AND AN ISSUE IN 290 00:06:39,933 --> 00:06:40,734 VIRGINIA. 291 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:41,634 >> BODY INVASION. 292 00:06:41,634 --> 00:06:42,535 >> BODY INVASION. 293 00:06:42,535 --> 00:06:43,236 >> CAN'T DO THAT. 294 00:06:43,236 --> 00:06:43,837 >> CAN'T DO IT. 295 00:06:43,837 --> 00:06:45,739 >> CAN'T DO THAT. 296 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:46,840 >> YOU THINK IT WOULD SQUARE 297 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:48,842 WITH THE PHILOSOPHY ON OTHER 298 00:06:48,842 --> 00:06:50,944 SIDE IDEOLOGICALLY OF SMALL 299 00:06:50,944 --> 00:06:52,345 GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT OUT 300 00:06:52,345 --> 00:06:54,147 OF OUR LIVES, GOVERNMENT OUT 301 00:06:54,147 --> 00:06:55,548 OF OUR BUSINESSES. 302 00:06:55,548 --> 00:06:57,050 >> NO, GUESS WHY? 303 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:58,752 >> YOU DO THAT UNTIL IT HITS 304 00:06:58,752 --> 00:07:02,355 ABORTION AND CONTRACEPTION. 305 00:07:02,355 --> 00:07:03,556 >> YES, BECAUSE THEY WANT 306 00:07:03,556 --> 00:07:05,558 GOVERNMENT OFF OF THE BACKS 307 00:07:05,558 --> 00:07:06,860 OF CORPORATIONS AND INTO THE 308 00:07:06,860 --> 00:07:07,761 WOMBS OF WOMEN. 309 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:08,561 [LAUGHTER] 310 00:07:08,561 --> 00:07:09,462 >> BECAUSE IN ORDER TO 311 00:07:09,462 --> 00:07:10,964 CONTROL POPULATION, SO YOU 312 00:07:10,964 --> 00:07:12,966 HAVE CHEAP LABOR. 313 00:07:12,966 --> 00:07:14,668 YOU HAVE LOTS OF WORKERS. 314 00:07:14,668 --> 00:07:16,269 IN ORDER TO DECIDE OR 315 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:20,073 INFLUENCE WHICH RACES AND 316 00:07:20,073 --> 00:07:21,174 WHICH CLASSES INCREASE AND 317 00:07:21,174 --> 00:07:22,976 WHICH DON'T, AND I MEAN, 318 00:07:22,976 --> 00:07:25,078 WOMEN'S BODIES ARE THE MEANS 319 00:07:25,078 --> 00:07:27,480 OF REPRODUCTION AND THOUGH 320 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,816 IT SEEMS TO ME SWEETLY 321 00:07:29,816 --> 00:07:31,718 REASONABLE TO SAY, OKAY, WE 322 00:07:31,718 --> 00:07:33,219 ARE GOING TO MAKE THE 323 00:07:33,219 --> 00:07:34,921 DECISIONS ABOUT OUR BODIES 324 00:07:34,921 --> 00:07:37,123 OURSELVES, TO THEM, IT'S 325 00:07:37,123 --> 00:07:38,224 SEIZING CONTROL OF THE MEANS 326 00:07:38,224 --> 00:07:39,526 OF REPRODUCTION. 327 00:07:39,526 --> 00:07:40,827 I MEAN, IT EVEN SOUNDS 328 00:07:40,827 --> 00:07:42,328 RADICAL, RIGHT. 329 00:07:42,328 --> 00:07:42,729 [LAUGHTER] 330 00:07:42,729 --> 00:07:44,431 AND SO, I MEAN, IT IS 331 00:07:44,431 --> 00:07:44,931 FUNDAMENTAL. 332 00:07:44,931 --> 00:07:47,934 AND IT IS TOTALLY BOUND UP 333 00:07:47,934 --> 00:07:50,437 WITH RACE AND CLASS. 334 00:07:50,437 --> 00:07:53,239 I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WHEREVER 335 00:07:53,239 --> 00:07:54,941 THERE IS RACISM, IT'S WORSE 336 00:07:54,941 --> 00:07:56,443 FOR ALL WOMEN, WHITE AND 337 00:07:56,443 --> 00:07:57,844 WOMEN OF COLOR, BECAUSE 338 00:07:57,844 --> 00:07:59,646 WHITE WOMEN OR WHOEVER IS 339 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:00,547 CONSIDERED SUPERIOR, WHOEVER 340 00:08:00,547 --> 00:08:04,751 IT IS, THEY ARE RESTRICTED 341 00:08:04,751 --> 00:08:05,752 SEXUALLY, IN ORDER TO 342 00:08:05,752 --> 00:08:07,454 MAINTAIN PURITY, WHATEVER 343 00:08:07,454 --> 00:08:08,755 THAT MEANS. 344 00:08:08,755 --> 00:08:11,157 AND WOMEN OF COLOR ARE 345 00:08:11,157 --> 00:08:12,359 EXPLOITED IN ORDER TO HAVE 346 00:08:12,359 --> 00:08:14,961 MORE CHEAP LABOR, SO THIS -- 347 00:08:14,961 --> 00:08:15,962 THESE TWO THINGS GO 348 00:08:15,962 --> 00:08:16,463 TOGETHER. 349 00:08:16,463 --> 00:08:17,364 >> BUT I COME BACK, GLORIA, 350 00:08:17,364 --> 00:08:18,865 TO THE QUESTION I ASKED AT 351 00:08:18,865 --> 00:08:21,368 THE BEGINNING, ONLY PARTLY 352 00:08:21,368 --> 00:08:23,470 FACETIOUSLY, IS AMERICA A 353 00:08:23,470 --> 00:08:24,371 SEXIST NATION IN 2012. 354 00:08:24,371 --> 00:08:26,573 BECAUSE EVERYTHING YOU ARE 355 00:08:26,573 --> 00:08:27,574 TALKING ABOUT, THE 356 00:08:27,574 --> 00:08:28,408 RESTRICTIONS ARE ON WOMEN, 357 00:08:28,408 --> 00:08:29,509 NOT ON MEN. 358 00:08:29,509 --> 00:08:30,510 THE ABORTION RESTRICTION IS 359 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:31,511 NOT ON MEN. 360 00:08:31,511 --> 00:08:34,214 THE CONTRACEPTION 361 00:08:34,214 --> 00:08:35,815 RESTRICTION IS NOT ON MEN, 362 00:08:35,815 --> 00:08:36,516 THE VAGINAL ULTRASOUNDS 363 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:39,119 MANDATE IS NOT AFFECTING 364 00:08:39,119 --> 00:08:39,419 MEN. 365 00:08:39,419 --> 00:08:40,720 >> NO AND THE VIRILITY AND 366 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:41,921 ALL THE DRUGS THAT ARE PAID 367 00:08:41,921 --> 00:08:43,123 FOR -- 368 00:08:43,123 --> 00:08:44,324 >> BY INSURANCE, RIGHT. 369 00:08:44,324 --> 00:08:45,125 >> BY INSURANCE. 370 00:08:45,125 --> 00:08:46,226 >> WE WILL PAY FOR THIS BUT 371 00:08:46,226 --> 00:08:47,727 NOT PAY FOR BIRTH CONTROL. 372 00:08:47,727 --> 00:08:48,028 >> RIGHT. 373 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:49,529 I MEAN, HELLO. 374 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:50,530 [LAUGHTER] 375 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:52,232 >> SO HOW CAN YOU NOT 376 00:08:52,232 --> 00:08:54,034 CONCLUDE -- 377 00:08:54,034 --> 00:08:54,534 [APPLAUSE] 378 00:08:54,534 --> 00:08:55,835 >> HOW CAN YOU NOT -- HOW 379 00:08:55,835 --> 00:08:57,437 CAN YOU NOT, AT SOME LEVEL, 380 00:08:57,437 --> 00:09:01,741 CONCLUDE THAT THIS IS ABOUT 381 00:09:01,741 --> 00:09:03,643 A SEXIST IMPULSE MANIFESTING 382 00:09:03,643 --> 00:09:04,144 ITSELF? 383 00:09:04,144 --> 00:09:05,245 >> WELL, OF COURSE IT IS BUT 384 00:09:05,245 --> 00:09:06,746 WHAT SEXISM COMES FROM IS 385 00:09:06,746 --> 00:09:08,148 CONTROLLING REPRODUCTION AND 386 00:09:08,148 --> 00:09:09,349 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS 387 00:09:09,349 --> 00:09:11,151 A SEXIST COUNTRY BECAUSE THE 388 00:09:11,151 --> 00:09:12,152 MAJORITY DON'T AGREE. 389 00:09:12,152 --> 00:09:13,253 THE MAJORITY THINKS THE 390 00:09:13,253 --> 00:09:14,654 GOVERNMENT HAS NO BUSINESS 391 00:09:14,654 --> 00:09:16,256 INTERFERING IN THIS WAY. 392 00:09:16,256 --> 00:09:19,059 ¶ 393 00:09:19,059 --> 00:09:19,959 >> WHAT A GREAT CLIP. 394 00:09:19,959 --> 00:09:21,561 WELCOME BACK TO STUDIO 6A IN 395 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:23,763 A SPECIAL EDITION OF 396 00:09:23,763 --> 00:09:24,164 "OVERHEARD" WITH EVAN SMITH 397 00:09:24,164 --> 00:09:26,666 AND I AM HERE WITH THE ONE 398 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:28,601 AND ONLY EVAN SMITH. 399 00:09:28,601 --> 00:09:30,103 >> HELLO. 400 00:09:30,103 --> 00:09:30,704 >> YOU INDICATED IN THE 401 00:09:30,704 --> 00:09:32,205 INTRODUCTION YOU WERE TRYING 402 00:09:32,205 --> 00:09:34,207 TO GET GLORIA STEINEM FOR A 403 00:09:34,207 --> 00:09:35,108 LONG TIME. 404 00:09:35,108 --> 00:09:35,508 >> YES. 405 00:09:35,508 --> 00:09:37,510 >> WHEN YOU GOT HERE, THE 406 00:09:37,510 --> 00:09:38,611 STUDIO WAS FULL. 407 00:09:38,611 --> 00:09:40,213 >> HANGING FROM THE RAFTERS. 408 00:09:40,213 --> 00:09:40,613 >> YES. 409 00:09:40,613 --> 00:09:41,715 >> WHY DO YOU THINK THE 410 00:09:41,715 --> 00:09:42,916 RESPONSE IS SO STRONG? 411 00:09:42,916 --> 00:09:43,817 >> I THINK WHEN YOU ARE 412 00:09:43,817 --> 00:09:45,218 TALKING ABOUT ISSUES RELATED 413 00:09:45,218 --> 00:09:46,720 TO WOMEN IN 2013, A LOT OF 414 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,520 STUFF WE THOUGHT WAS 415 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,422 LITIGATED AND RESOLVED A 416 00:09:49,422 --> 00:09:52,525 LONG TIME AGO IS NOT 417 00:09:52,525 --> 00:09:53,426 RESOLVED. 418 00:09:53,426 --> 00:09:54,427 WE THOUGHT THE QUESTION ON 419 00:09:54,427 --> 00:09:56,229 ABORTION, WHICH MS. STEINEM 420 00:09:56,229 --> 00:09:57,430 ADDRESSED IN SOME WAY, WE 421 00:09:57,430 --> 00:09:58,631 THOUGHT IT WAS STILL LAW AND 422 00:09:58,631 --> 00:09:59,532 SETTLED POLICY. 423 00:09:59,532 --> 00:10:00,033 WE THOUGHT THE, ROE VERSUS 424 00:10:00,033 --> 00:10:01,835 WADE DECISION WHICH IS NOW 425 00:10:01,835 --> 00:10:03,436 MORE THAN 40 YEARS OLD, WAS 426 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:04,437 THE LAW OF THE LAND AND THAT 427 00:10:04,437 --> 00:10:05,939 WAS THAT AND YET WE ARE 428 00:10:05,939 --> 00:10:06,940 FINDING IN STATE 429 00:10:06,940 --> 00:10:08,942 LEGISLATURES AROUND THE 430 00:10:08,942 --> 00:10:10,143 COUNTRY AND IN TEXAS, EVEN 431 00:10:10,143 --> 00:10:11,244 BY THOSE WHO OPPOSE THE 432 00:10:11,244 --> 00:10:12,245 LEGAL RIGHT TO ABORTION OR 433 00:10:12,245 --> 00:10:13,446 WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT LEGAL 434 00:10:13,446 --> 00:10:15,148 RIGHT CURTAILED, EFFORTS TO 435 00:10:15,148 --> 00:10:16,449 ESSENTIALLY MAKE THE FACT 436 00:10:16,449 --> 00:10:19,152 THAT IT IS LEGAL ALL BUT 437 00:10:19,152 --> 00:10:19,652 IRRELEVANT. 438 00:10:19,652 --> 00:10:21,354 SO THEY ARE PUTTING ON 439 00:10:21,354 --> 00:10:22,355 RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT AN 440 00:10:22,355 --> 00:10:22,856 ABORTION CAN BE. 441 00:10:22,856 --> 00:10:24,157 IN TEXAS WE JUST HAD A 442 00:10:24,157 --> 00:10:24,958 DISCUSSION OF TAKING 443 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:26,760 ABORTION CLINICS AND RAISING 444 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:27,861 THEM TO THE STANDARDS OF 445 00:10:27,861 --> 00:10:29,496 AMBULATORY SURGICAL CENTERS. 446 00:10:29,496 --> 00:10:29,796 >> SURE. 447 00:10:29,796 --> 00:10:30,697 >> WE ARE LIMITING THE 448 00:10:30,697 --> 00:10:31,698 AMOUNT OF TIME IN WHICH 449 00:10:31,698 --> 00:10:32,298 ABORTION IS LEGAL. 450 00:10:32,298 --> 00:10:34,000 IN TEXAS, A LAW JUST PASSED 451 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,301 THAT BASICALLY SAYS 20 452 00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:36,002 WEEKS. 453 00:10:36,002 --> 00:10:36,703 THAT'S IT. 454 00:10:36,703 --> 00:10:40,106 ROE VERSUS WADE, THE FETAL 455 00:10:40,106 --> 00:10:42,308 VIABILITY TEST IS DIFFERENT. 456 00:10:42,308 --> 00:10:44,010 THESE ARE ALL SIGNIFICANT 457 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:45,011 FOR LAWS. 458 00:10:45,011 --> 00:10:46,613 PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WHO 459 00:10:46,613 --> 00:10:47,714 BELIEVE THESE ISSUES WERE NO 460 00:10:47,714 --> 00:10:48,715 LONGER IN NEED OF DISCUSSION 461 00:10:48,715 --> 00:10:50,316 ARE FINDING, WAIT A MINUTE, 462 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:51,518 THEY HAVE BEEN REOPENED 463 00:10:51,518 --> 00:10:52,519 AGAIN SO TO HAVE GLORIA 464 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:53,720 STEINEM BACK HERE TODAY. 465 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:54,621 IT DOES SEEM LIKE A 466 00:10:54,621 --> 00:10:56,523 THROWBACK, BILL. 467 00:10:56,523 --> 00:10:58,124 WE WERE MUCH YOUNGER MEN. 468 00:10:58,124 --> 00:10:59,325 >> ABSOLUTELY. 469 00:10:59,325 --> 00:11:00,627 >> WHEN GLORIA STEINEM WAS 470 00:11:00,627 --> 00:11:04,731 DOING THE BULK OF THE WORK 471 00:11:04,731 --> 00:11:06,533 BUT THE FACT IS GLORIA 472 00:11:06,533 --> 00:11:08,034 STEINEMS ARE NEEDED FOR THIS 473 00:11:08,034 --> 00:11:09,235 MORE THAN EVER BEFORE ON 474 00:11:09,235 --> 00:11:10,136 THIS PLATFORM. 475 00:11:10,136 --> 00:11:11,338 >> YES AND THE REPRODUCTIVE 476 00:11:11,338 --> 00:11:13,239 RIGHTS ARE A KEY PART OF HER 477 00:11:13,239 --> 00:11:15,141 PLATFORM AND IT HAS GONE 478 00:11:15,141 --> 00:11:15,942 WELL BEYOND THAT. 479 00:11:15,942 --> 00:11:16,242 >> ABSOLUTELY. 480 00:11:16,242 --> 00:11:18,144 >> I WONDER IF YOU CAN 481 00:11:18,144 --> 00:11:19,746 REFLECT ON THE INTERVIEW OF 482 00:11:19,746 --> 00:11:21,448 HER APPEARANCE AND THE 483 00:11:21,448 --> 00:11:22,549 ISSUES YOU FOUND INTERESTING 484 00:11:22,549 --> 00:11:23,249 IN DISCUSSION. 485 00:11:23,249 --> 00:11:24,351 >> AGAIN, THE EQUAL RIGHTS 486 00:11:24,351 --> 00:11:25,752 ISSUE, WHICH SEEMS SO LONG 487 00:11:25,752 --> 00:11:28,288 AGO WHEN THAT WAS BEING 488 00:11:28,288 --> 00:11:29,389 DISCUSSED ACTIVELY IN THIS 489 00:11:29,389 --> 00:11:30,690 COUNTRY, IS A BROADER 490 00:11:30,690 --> 00:11:31,791 PORTFOLIO BUT OF COURSE IN 491 00:11:31,791 --> 00:11:33,393 TEXAS WE JUST HAD A 492 00:11:33,393 --> 00:11:34,994 CONVERSATION WITH EQUAL PAY 493 00:11:34,994 --> 00:11:35,895 FOR WOMEN, THE LILLY 494 00:11:35,895 --> 00:11:38,698 LEDBETTER ACT PASSED 495 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:40,500 NATIONALLY BUT WAS VETOED 496 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:41,501 HERE IN TEXAS BY GOVERNOR 497 00:11:41,501 --> 00:11:41,801 PERRY. 498 00:11:41,801 --> 00:11:42,802 SO IT IS NOT JUST ABORTION 499 00:11:42,802 --> 00:11:45,105 AND REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS. 500 00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:46,906 THOSE MAY BE THE HEADLINES 501 00:11:46,906 --> 00:11:49,209 NOW AND THE HOT BUTTON OF 502 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:51,311 THE MOMENT BUT IT IS MORE A 503 00:11:51,311 --> 00:11:52,812 QUESTION OF THE MOMENT OF 504 00:11:52,812 --> 00:11:53,913 ARE WOMEN GETTING EQUAL 505 00:11:53,913 --> 00:11:55,215 RIGHTS AND GETTING A FAIR 506 00:11:55,215 --> 00:11:57,417 SHAKE AT LIFE THAN ALL MEN. 507 00:11:57,417 --> 00:11:59,319 AND GLORIA STEINEM SAID IN 508 00:11:59,319 --> 00:12:01,121 HER 70S, WHO LOOKS GREAT. 509 00:12:01,121 --> 00:12:02,622 I WOULD BE HAPPY TO LOOK 510 00:12:02,622 --> 00:12:03,823 THAT GOOD NOW. 511 00:12:03,823 --> 00:12:04,924 SHE PROBABLY THOUGHT BEING A 512 00:12:04,924 --> 00:12:06,826 WOMAN IN HER 70S, SHE WOULD 513 00:12:06,826 --> 00:12:09,729 BE RETIRED AND AT A BEACH 514 00:12:09,729 --> 00:12:10,630 SOMEPLACE, BUT NOW SHE HAS 515 00:12:10,630 --> 00:12:11,531 TO BE ACTIVE AS EVER IN 516 00:12:11,531 --> 00:12:13,633 THESE ISSUES. 517 00:12:13,633 --> 00:12:15,335 >> WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY 518 00:12:15,335 --> 00:12:16,236 LIKE GLORIA STEINEM WHO HAS 519 00:12:16,236 --> 00:12:18,238 HAD SUCH A CAREER AND HAS SO 520 00:12:18,238 --> 00:12:21,241 MANY ISSUES AND THINGS, HOW 521 00:12:21,241 --> 00:12:22,142 DO YOU DETERMINE WHAT SET OF 522 00:12:22,142 --> 00:12:23,443 ISSUES THAT YOU WILL FOCUS 523 00:12:23,443 --> 00:12:25,045 ON THE 30 MINUTES YOU HAVE 524 00:12:25,045 --> 00:12:25,845 WITH THEM? 525 00:12:25,845 --> 00:12:26,946 >> THE REALITY AS YOU KNOW, 526 00:12:26,946 --> 00:12:28,081 30 MINUTES ISN'T A LONG 527 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:29,582 TIME, AND YOU CAN ONLY COVER 528 00:12:29,582 --> 00:12:30,884 A COUPLE OF BIG TOPICS AND 529 00:12:30,884 --> 00:12:32,285 YOU NEVER KNOW REALLY WHERE 530 00:12:32,285 --> 00:12:33,586 THE ANSWERS ARE GOING TO GO. 531 00:12:33,586 --> 00:12:34,888 SO YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, 532 00:12:34,888 --> 00:12:35,789 HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE 533 00:12:35,789 --> 00:12:36,790 MOST IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT 534 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:37,791 AND HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT 535 00:12:37,791 --> 00:12:38,692 ARE SECONDARY ISSUES. 536 00:12:38,692 --> 00:12:41,494 IF THESE GO BY MUCH QUICKER 537 00:12:41,494 --> 00:12:43,096 THAN INTENDED, THE SECONDARY 538 00:12:43,096 --> 00:12:43,496 ONES. 539 00:12:43,496 --> 00:12:44,297 PEOPLE ARE MORE INTERESTED 540 00:12:44,297 --> 00:12:45,598 IN HISTORY BUT WHAT IS GOING 541 00:12:45,598 --> 00:12:48,902 ON NOW IS WHAT COMPELS THE 542 00:12:48,902 --> 00:12:51,004 CONVERSATION FORWARD, SO 543 00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:51,905 WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE 544 00:12:51,905 --> 00:12:53,807 PAST, FOR PEOPLE LIKE GLORIA 545 00:12:53,807 --> 00:12:54,708 STEINEM, THIS IS, AGAIN, 546 00:12:54,708 --> 00:12:56,309 CONNECTING THE PRESENT THAT 547 00:12:56,309 --> 00:12:58,111 GETS THE AUDIENCE AND STUDIO 548 00:12:58,111 --> 00:12:59,713 AT HOME ENGAGED. 549 00:12:59,713 --> 00:13:00,914 AND SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT 550 00:13:00,914 --> 00:13:02,215 THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD 551 00:13:02,215 --> 00:13:03,216 SITUATION THAT WAS ACTIVE IN 552 00:13:03,216 --> 00:13:04,918 2011 AND NATIONALLY, AND IN 553 00:13:04,918 --> 00:13:05,919 TEXAS RIGHT NOW, I KNEW THAT 554 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:06,920 WAS GOING TO BE SOMEBODY 555 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,421 THAT SHE WOULD LOCK ON TO 556 00:13:08,421 --> 00:13:09,322 AND CONNECT WITH AND TALK 557 00:13:09,322 --> 00:13:09,723 ABOUT. 558 00:13:09,723 --> 00:13:12,726 AGAIN, INCREDIBLY 559 00:13:12,726 --> 00:13:14,027 INTERESTING FOR US, GIVEN 560 00:13:14,027 --> 00:13:14,627 WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE WENDY 561 00:13:14,627 --> 00:13:16,229 DAVIS FILIBUSTER AND WHAT IS 562 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:18,031 GOING ON, TALKING ABOUT THIS 563 00:13:18,031 --> 00:13:19,232 ISSUE WITH THAT LEVEL OF 564 00:13:19,232 --> 00:13:20,433 INTENSITY BACK THOSE MONTHS 565 00:13:20,433 --> 00:13:20,734 AGO. 566 00:13:20,734 --> 00:13:22,235 >> YES, IT WAS EXTREMELY 567 00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:22,736 TIMELY. 568 00:13:22,736 --> 00:13:23,136 >> YES. 569 00:13:23,136 --> 00:13:24,437 >> SO WE WILL TAKE A LITTLE 570 00:13:24,437 --> 00:13:25,538 BREAK HERE IN A SECOND AND 571 00:13:25,538 --> 00:13:26,439 GO TO ERIN. 572 00:13:26,439 --> 00:13:27,340 >> THANKS, BILL. 573 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:28,641 I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT SOME 574 00:13:28,641 --> 00:13:30,043 OF THE WAYS THAT WE HAVE TO 575 00:13:30,043 --> 00:13:30,744 THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT 576 00:13:30,744 --> 00:13:32,645 OF KLRU, THE STATION THAT 577 00:13:32,645 --> 00:13:34,247 BRINGS YOU "OVERHEARD" WITH 578 00:13:34,247 --> 00:13:35,248 EVAN SMITH EVERY WEEK. 579 00:13:35,248 --> 00:13:36,850 WE ARE HAPPY TO DO IT BUT WE 580 00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:38,551 NEED YOUR SUPPORT TO DO SO, 581 00:13:38,551 --> 00:13:42,155 SO PLEASE CALL 866-910-KLRU. 582 00:13:42,155 --> 00:13:43,456 GIVE THE GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT, 583 00:13:43,456 --> 00:13:44,958 OR WE HAVE GREAT LEVELS FOR 584 00:13:44,958 --> 00:13:45,959 YOU TO CHOOSE FROM. 585 00:13:45,959 --> 00:13:47,360 THE 150-DOLLAR LEVEL, WE 586 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:48,161 HAVE ONE PASS TO THE 587 00:13:48,161 --> 00:13:50,063 UPCOMING TEXAS TRIBUNE 588 00:13:50,063 --> 00:13:51,464 FESTIVAL. 589 00:13:51,464 --> 00:13:52,766 IT IS A WEEKEND FULL OF 590 00:13:52,766 --> 00:13:54,167 DEBATES, DISCUSSION AND 591 00:13:54,167 --> 00:13:55,869 DIALOGUE, FEATURING SOME OF 592 00:13:55,869 --> 00:14:00,073 THE TOP AND BIG NAME 593 00:14:00,073 --> 00:14:01,374 POLITICIANS IN THE WORLD AND 594 00:14:01,374 --> 00:14:03,276 MORE THAN 45 MINUTES AND 150 595 00:14:03,276 --> 00:14:04,277 SPEAKERS HERE AT THE 596 00:14:04,277 --> 00:14:05,378 UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS CAMPUS, 597 00:14:05,378 --> 00:14:06,880 AND YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT IT 598 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,581 AT THE TEXAS TRIBUNE LEVEL 599 00:14:08,581 --> 00:14:10,283 OR CALL FOR THE 150 LEVEL TO 600 00:14:10,283 --> 00:14:12,285 DONATE, OR GIVE $200 AND WE 601 00:14:12,285 --> 00:14:15,689 WILL SEND YOU A BRAND NEW 602 00:14:15,689 --> 00:14:17,590 ROKU 3 AND YOU CAN LISTEN TO 603 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:18,692 ANY PROGRAMS ON KLRU 604 00:14:18,692 --> 00:14:19,793 INCLUDING "OVERHEARD." 605 00:14:19,793 --> 00:14:20,093 THANKS. 606 00:14:20,093 --> 00:14:20,894 >> I GET THE PLEASURE OF 607 00:14:20,894 --> 00:14:22,295 INTRODUCING THE SECOND CLIP 608 00:14:22,295 --> 00:14:24,397 OF THE NIGHT AND IT IS AN 609 00:14:24,397 --> 00:14:27,200 INTERVIEW I DID WITH FORMER 610 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,635 SPEAKER OF THE U.S. HOUSE, 611 00:14:28,635 --> 00:14:32,339 SPEAKER NEWT GINGRICH. 612 00:14:32,339 --> 00:14:33,740 HE RAN FOR PRESIDENT AND YOU 613 00:14:33,740 --> 00:14:34,841 REMEMBER THE LAST ELECTION 614 00:14:34,841 --> 00:14:36,142 CYCLE, DID QUITE A BIT 615 00:14:36,142 --> 00:14:37,444 BETTER THAN WE EXPECTED AND 616 00:14:37,444 --> 00:14:38,645 MAYBE THAN HE EXPECTED. 617 00:14:38,645 --> 00:14:39,946 HE WAS IN IT UNTIL PRETTY 618 00:14:39,946 --> 00:14:41,047 LATE IN THE GAME AND I THINK 619 00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:43,550 HE REHABILITATED HIS IMAGE 620 00:14:43,550 --> 00:14:44,651 BY SHOWING HIMSELF TO BE 621 00:14:44,651 --> 00:14:45,952 VERY ENGAGED, NOT IN 622 00:14:45,952 --> 00:14:47,654 PARTISAN WARFARE BUT IN 623 00:14:47,654 --> 00:14:48,655 SERIOUS DISCUSSION OF 624 00:14:48,655 --> 00:14:49,155 ISSUES. 625 00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:50,256 SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE NEWT 626 00:14:50,256 --> 00:14:51,458 GINGRICH, SOME PEOPLE WHO 627 00:14:51,458 --> 00:14:52,359 CAME TO THE SHOW THOUGHT 628 00:14:52,359 --> 00:14:53,460 THEY DIDN'T LIKE NEWT 629 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:54,461 GINGRICH, BUT FROM AN 630 00:14:54,461 --> 00:14:57,263 INTERVIEWERS' PERSPECTIVE, 631 00:14:57,263 --> 00:14:59,666 YOU COULD NOT ASK FOR A MORE 632 00:14:59,666 --> 00:15:00,867 EXPANSIVE, INTERESTING, 633 00:15:00,867 --> 00:15:01,568 FUNNY GUEST. 634 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:02,769 HE WAS JUST A PLEASURE TO 635 00:15:02,769 --> 00:15:03,670 TALK TO. 636 00:15:03,670 --> 00:15:05,271 HE COULD TALK ABOUT ANY 637 00:15:05,271 --> 00:15:06,172 SUBJECT WITH A HIGH LEVEL OF 638 00:15:06,172 --> 00:15:08,375 ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM AND IT 639 00:15:08,375 --> 00:15:09,075 WAS SO INTERESTING TO 640 00:15:09,075 --> 00:15:10,777 FINALLY GET TO INTERVIEW 641 00:15:10,777 --> 00:15:11,378 NEWT GINGRICH. 642 00:15:11,378 --> 00:15:12,278 >> THE THING ABOUT 643 00:15:12,278 --> 00:15:13,680 PARTISANSHIP, I WANT TO ASK 644 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,581 YOU ABOUT THE ASPECT OF HOW 645 00:15:14,581 --> 00:15:16,383 THE NEW MEMBERS OF CONGRESS 646 00:15:16,383 --> 00:15:17,283 SHOULD BE TOWARD ONE 647 00:15:17,283 --> 00:15:17,584 ANOTHER. 648 00:15:17,584 --> 00:15:18,585 WE HEAR SO MUCH ABOUT THE 649 00:15:18,585 --> 00:15:20,687 TOXICITY OF POLITICS AND HOW 650 00:15:20,687 --> 00:15:22,188 WE ARE MORE POLARIZED THAN 651 00:15:22,188 --> 00:15:22,489 EVER. 652 00:15:22,489 --> 00:15:23,890 IS THERE A WAY TO -- TO 653 00:15:23,890 --> 00:15:24,891 CRACK THAT? 654 00:15:24,891 --> 00:15:26,292 YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO GO 655 00:15:26,292 --> 00:15:27,494 BACK INTO ANOTHER SESSION OF 656 00:15:27,494 --> 00:15:27,794 CONGRESS. 657 00:15:27,794 --> 00:15:28,828 WE HAVE A REPUBLICAN-LED 658 00:15:28,828 --> 00:15:29,129 HOUSE. 659 00:15:29,129 --> 00:15:30,430 WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC SENATE, 660 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:32,832 A SLIGHTLY LARGER MARGIN BUT 661 00:15:32,832 --> 00:15:33,933 EFFECTIVELY THE SAME AS 662 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:34,134 BEFORE. 663 00:15:34,134 --> 00:15:36,736 WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC 664 00:15:36,736 --> 00:15:37,037 PRESIDENT. 665 00:15:37,037 --> 00:15:38,638 HOW DO WE NOT REPEAT THE 666 00:15:38,638 --> 00:15:39,939 GRIDLOCK AND TOXICITY OF THE 667 00:15:39,939 --> 00:15:41,541 LAST FOUR YEARS AND THE NEXT 668 00:15:41,541 --> 00:15:42,542 FEW YEARS? 669 00:15:42,542 --> 00:15:43,443 WHAT DO WE DO. 670 00:15:43,443 --> 00:15:44,344 >> FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD 671 00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:45,945 ENCOURAGE -- I CAN'T SPEAK 672 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,248 FOR THE SENATE BECAUSE I 673 00:15:48,248 --> 00:15:50,050 HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HARRY REID 674 00:15:50,050 --> 00:15:51,951 WILL BE LIKE BUT I ENCOURAGE 675 00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:53,053 SPEAKER BOEHNER TO FIND 676 00:15:53,053 --> 00:15:54,754 BILLS TO INTRODUCE THAT ARE 677 00:15:54,754 --> 00:15:55,755 GOOD SMALL IDEAS AND BRING 678 00:15:55,755 --> 00:15:56,756 THEM UP. 679 00:15:56,756 --> 00:15:57,057 >> YES. 680 00:15:57,057 --> 00:15:58,358 >> YOU CAN DO -- I TRIED 681 00:15:58,358 --> 00:15:59,759 LAST YEAR AND FAILED, TO GET 682 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:01,861 THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS TO 683 00:16:01,861 --> 00:16:03,163 PASS A BILL THAT HAS BEEN 684 00:16:03,163 --> 00:16:05,165 INTRODUCED BY TWO DEMOCRATIC 685 00:16:05,165 --> 00:16:07,367 SENATORS THAT -- BY WEBB AND 686 00:16:07,367 --> 00:16:08,568 WARNER OF VIRGINIA. 687 00:16:08,568 --> 00:16:10,170 IT ALLOWED DRILLING OFFSHORE 688 00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:10,870 FOR VIRGINIA. 689 00:16:10,870 --> 00:16:12,772 HERE YOU HAD TWO DEMOCRATIC 690 00:16:12,772 --> 00:16:14,074 SENATORS DOING SOMETHING 691 00:16:14,074 --> 00:16:15,675 REPUBLICANS BELIEVE IN 692 00:16:15,675 --> 00:16:16,476 IDEOLOGICALLY. 693 00:16:16,476 --> 00:16:17,877 IF THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS HAD 694 00:16:17,877 --> 00:16:19,879 PASSED IT SENATE TO SENATE 695 00:16:19,879 --> 00:16:22,282 AND SAID HARRY REID, "WE ARE 696 00:16:22,282 --> 00:16:24,484 PASSING YOUR TWO DEMOCRATIC 697 00:16:24,484 --> 00:16:25,485 SENATOR BILL, DON'T YOU 698 00:16:25,485 --> 00:16:26,786 THINK YOU SHOULD BRING UP 699 00:16:26,786 --> 00:16:28,321 YOUR TWO DEMOCRATIC SENATOR 700 00:16:28,321 --> 00:16:29,622 BILL," IT WOULD BE HARD TO 701 00:16:29,622 --> 00:16:30,824 ARGUE PARTISAN, BUT IT 702 00:16:30,824 --> 00:16:32,325 COULDN'T BREAK THROUGH. 703 00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:33,226 >> YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE 704 00:16:33,226 --> 00:16:34,227 TO BE SPEAKER AND YOU KNOW 705 00:16:34,227 --> 00:16:35,628 WHAT THE MINDSET CAN BE IN A 706 00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:36,629 HOUSE WITH A LOT OF 707 00:16:36,629 --> 00:16:38,732 DIFFICULT-TO-HERD FOLKS, 708 00:16:38,732 --> 00:16:39,532 WHICH WAS SOMETHING YOU 709 00:16:39,532 --> 00:16:40,734 EXPERIENCED PROBABLY AFTER 710 00:16:40,734 --> 00:16:41,735 THE CONTRACT WITH THE 711 00:16:41,735 --> 00:16:43,636 AMERICA PERIOD IN '94. 712 00:16:43,636 --> 00:16:45,238 A LOT OF NEW PEOPLE CAME IN 713 00:16:45,238 --> 00:16:45,739 WITH IDEAS. 714 00:16:45,739 --> 00:16:47,841 >> SURE. 715 00:16:47,841 --> 00:16:49,442 >> SO IS THE SPEAKER FAILING 716 00:16:49,442 --> 00:16:50,143 TO LIVE UP TO HIS 717 00:16:50,143 --> 00:16:50,744 RESPONSIBILITY AS SPEAKER 718 00:16:50,744 --> 00:16:52,145 AND NOT DOING IT? 719 00:16:52,145 --> 00:16:52,946 >> NO, NO, NO. 720 00:16:52,946 --> 00:16:54,948 MOST POLITICIANS AREN'T 721 00:16:54,948 --> 00:16:56,950 GIGANTIC RISK TAKERS. 722 00:16:56,950 --> 00:16:57,450 OKAY. 723 00:16:57,450 --> 00:16:59,753 I -- I CAME OUT OF THIS BY 724 00:16:59,753 --> 00:17:01,154 USING A FOOTBALL ANALOGY -- 725 00:17:01,154 --> 00:17:02,355 BECAUSE WE CAME OUT OF THE 726 00:17:02,355 --> 00:17:03,456 BACKGROUND BECAUSE WE HAD 727 00:17:03,456 --> 00:17:05,959 BEEN IN A MINORITY SO LONG, 728 00:17:05,959 --> 00:17:07,360 THAT I WAS LIKE A ROLLOUT 729 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:07,660 QUARTERBACK. 730 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:09,462 I WAS GOING TO THROW DEEP ON 731 00:17:09,462 --> 00:17:10,263 EVERY PLAY. 732 00:17:10,263 --> 00:17:11,564 I WAS GOING TO DO EVERYTHING 733 00:17:11,564 --> 00:17:13,667 I COULD TO KEEP THE BALL 734 00:17:13,667 --> 00:17:14,067 MOVING. 735 00:17:14,067 --> 00:17:15,568 I WAS GOING TO TAKE RISKS. 736 00:17:15,568 --> 00:17:16,970 AND SO IT IS NATURAL FOR ME 737 00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:18,471 TO SAY, WHAT CAN I PUT 738 00:17:18,471 --> 00:17:19,072 TOGETHER. 739 00:17:19,072 --> 00:17:19,773 >> YES. 740 00:17:19,773 --> 00:17:20,674 >> IT IS NOT NATURAL -- 741 00:17:20,674 --> 00:17:21,574 >> RIGHT. THIS MAY NOT BE 742 00:17:21,574 --> 00:17:23,877 HIS THING. 743 00:17:23,877 --> 00:17:24,978 >> WELL, MOST POLITICIANS 744 00:17:24,978 --> 00:17:28,114 ARE RISKLESS, AND BECAUSE I 745 00:17:28,114 --> 00:17:30,617 PROVED TO MY OWN, I ONLY 746 00:17:30,617 --> 00:17:31,818 LASTED AS SPEAKER FOR FOUR 747 00:17:31,818 --> 00:17:34,120 YEARS BECAUSE I WORE OUT MY 748 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:34,721 MEMBERS. 749 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:36,122 >> BECAUSE IT CAN BE 750 00:17:36,122 --> 00:17:36,823 INTERCEPTED. 751 00:17:36,823 --> 00:17:38,124 >> YES, IT IS HARD WORK AND 752 00:17:38,124 --> 00:17:38,925 CONTROVERSIAL AND SOMETIMES, 753 00:17:38,925 --> 00:17:40,326 AS YOU SAY, INTERCEPTED AND 754 00:17:40,326 --> 00:17:42,128 I THINK PARTLY MY MEMBERS 755 00:17:42,128 --> 00:17:42,829 BURNED OUT. 756 00:17:42,829 --> 00:17:44,531 THEY THOUGHT THIS IS A LOT 757 00:17:44,531 --> 00:17:45,532 OF TURMOIL. 758 00:17:45,532 --> 00:17:47,033 YOU PASS WELFARE REFORM AND 759 00:17:47,033 --> 00:17:48,234 BALANCE THE BUDGET FOR FOUR 760 00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:50,036 YEARS, THERE IS A LOT OF 761 00:17:50,036 --> 00:17:50,437 TURMOIL. 762 00:17:50,437 --> 00:17:52,238 >> I GUESS JOHN BOEHNER WILL 763 00:17:52,238 --> 00:17:54,140 BE SPEAKER AGAIN, ALTHOUGH 764 00:17:54,140 --> 00:17:56,242 THERE IS ONE VOTE FOR YOU. 765 00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:56,643 REPRESENTATIVE LOUIE 766 00:17:56,643 --> 00:18:00,046 GOHMERT, WHO OFTEN FLIES BY 767 00:18:00,046 --> 00:18:01,548 HIS OWN SET OF COORDINATES. 768 00:18:01,548 --> 00:18:01,748 [LAUGHTER] 769 00:18:01,748 --> 00:18:03,149 HE PUT YOUR NAME AS 770 00:18:03,149 --> 00:18:05,251 NOMINATION OF SPEAKER. 771 00:18:05,251 --> 00:18:07,354 I DIDN'T KNOW YOU DIDN'T 772 00:18:07,354 --> 00:18:08,555 HAVE TO BE MEMBER OF THE 773 00:18:08,555 --> 00:18:10,156 HOUSE TO BE SPEAKER. 774 00:18:10,156 --> 00:18:11,458 >> THIS MAKES ME A FOOTNOTE 775 00:18:11,458 --> 00:18:12,559 IN SOME OF THE HISTORY OF 776 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:13,360 THE HOUSE. 777 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:16,262 >> HOW RESPONSIVE WOULD YOU 778 00:18:16,262 --> 00:18:19,065 HAD BEEN IF THEY WENT TO 779 00:18:19,065 --> 00:18:19,666 RECRUIT? 780 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:21,368 "I WILL NOT SERVE. 781 00:18:21,368 --> 00:18:21,868 DON'T NOMINATE ME"? 782 00:18:21,868 --> 00:18:23,169 >> IF THERE HAD BEEN A MOVE, 783 00:18:23,169 --> 00:18:23,870 I WOULD HAVE SUGGESTED IT 784 00:18:23,870 --> 00:18:25,071 WAS IMPRACTICAL. 785 00:18:25,071 --> 00:18:26,773 IF IT HAD BEEN A MAJORITY 786 00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:27,574 VOTE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN 787 00:18:27,574 --> 00:18:28,608 TOTALLY CONFUSED. 788 00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:29,809 >> AND YOU WOULD HAVE HAD A 789 00:18:29,809 --> 00:18:30,310 NEW JOB. 790 00:18:30,310 --> 00:18:31,511 WE HAVE 3 MINUTES LEFT, 791 00:18:31,511 --> 00:18:32,812 MR. SPEAKER. 792 00:18:32,812 --> 00:18:34,214 WHAT DO YOU DO NOW, IT IS 793 00:18:34,214 --> 00:18:35,315 HARD TO IMAGINE, THE NUMBER 794 00:18:35,315 --> 00:18:38,218 OF BOOKS YOU WRITE, SPEECHES 795 00:18:38,218 --> 00:18:39,719 YOU MAKE, IT SEEMS TO BE 796 00:18:39,719 --> 00:18:41,821 COMPULSIVE -- I MEAN THIS IN 797 00:18:41,821 --> 00:18:42,922 A POSITIVE SENSE, BUT THE 798 00:18:42,922 --> 00:18:44,624 COMPULSIVENESS OF YOUR 799 00:18:44,624 --> 00:18:45,625 THINKING ABOUT THESE ISSUES 800 00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:48,228 AND YOUR PROSELYTIZED ON 801 00:18:48,228 --> 00:18:49,629 BEHALF OF VARIOUS THINGS YOU 802 00:18:49,629 --> 00:18:50,630 BELIEVE IN. 803 00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:52,132 HOW CAN YOU TURN THAT OFF? 804 00:18:52,132 --> 00:18:52,932 I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE 805 00:18:52,932 --> 00:18:54,034 DONE. 806 00:18:54,034 --> 00:18:55,135 >> WHY WOULD YOU? 807 00:18:55,135 --> 00:18:56,136 >> I AM ASKING, ARE YOU 808 00:18:56,136 --> 00:18:56,636 DONE? 809 00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:58,438 ARE YOU GOING TO RUN FOUR 810 00:18:58,438 --> 00:18:59,239 OFFICE AGAIN? 811 00:18:59,239 --> 00:18:59,539 >> I DON'T KNOW. 812 00:18:59,539 --> 00:19:00,540 BUT I AM A CITIZEN. 813 00:19:00,540 --> 00:19:01,541 I AM FORTUNATE. 814 00:19:01,541 --> 00:19:03,143 I GET TO BE A CITIZEN ALL 815 00:19:03,143 --> 00:19:03,943 DAY EVERY DAY. 816 00:19:03,943 --> 00:19:07,047 I HAD HUGE FUN YESTERDAY AT 817 00:19:07,047 --> 00:19:07,947 THE UNIVERSITY OF KANSAS 818 00:19:07,947 --> 00:19:10,050 NATURAL HISTORY EXAM AND 819 00:19:10,050 --> 00:19:13,253 HUGE FUN TODAY WITH TIM ROWE 820 00:19:13,253 --> 00:19:15,355 AT THE PALEONTOLOGY 821 00:19:15,355 --> 00:19:15,855 DEPARTMENT AT THE UNIVERSITY 822 00:19:15,855 --> 00:19:18,358 OF TEXAS. 823 00:19:18,358 --> 00:19:19,859 I LIKE DOING THINGS. 824 00:19:19,859 --> 00:19:21,161 >> BUT YOU LIKED TO BE AN 825 00:19:21,161 --> 00:19:22,262 ELECTED OFFICER TO GIVE YOU 826 00:19:22,262 --> 00:19:24,864 A PLATFORM TO SPEAK AND DO 827 00:19:24,864 --> 00:19:25,165 -- 828 00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:27,567 >> BUT I HAD 12 YEARS OF 829 00:19:27,567 --> 00:19:29,002 LEAVING SPEAKERSHIP AND 830 00:19:29,002 --> 00:19:29,903 RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT AND I 831 00:19:29,903 --> 00:19:31,304 WAS BUSY 11 YEARS. 832 00:19:31,304 --> 00:19:32,505 >> YOU DON'T PLAN TO RUN FOR 833 00:19:32,505 --> 00:19:33,406 PRESIDENT AGAIN? 834 00:19:33,406 --> 00:19:34,207 >> IT IS NOT MY INTENTION 835 00:19:34,207 --> 00:19:35,508 BUT NOT RULING IT OUT. 836 00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:36,910 >> NOT RULING IT OUT. 837 00:19:36,910 --> 00:19:37,911 WOULD YOU RUN FOR ANYTHING 838 00:19:37,911 --> 00:19:39,112 ELSE POTENTIALLY? 839 00:19:39,112 --> 00:19:40,113 >> NO, I DON'T THINK SO. 840 00:19:40,113 --> 00:19:41,715 >> SO WE HAVE TO ENJOY YOU 841 00:19:41,715 --> 00:19:42,916 ON THE TRAIL? 842 00:19:42,916 --> 00:19:44,017 >> I AM GOING THE TRY TO 843 00:19:44,017 --> 00:19:45,218 LEARN, TRY TO THINK AND TRY 844 00:19:45,218 --> 00:19:46,419 TO HAVE IDEAS. 845 00:19:46,419 --> 00:19:48,621 >> WOULD YOU EVER ENTERTAIN 846 00:19:48,621 --> 00:19:49,723 BEING BROUGHT INTO THE 847 00:19:49,723 --> 00:19:50,423 ADMINISTRATION? 848 00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:51,825 THERE IS SOME DISCUSSION 849 00:19:51,825 --> 00:19:53,626 THAT MAYBE THE PRESIDENT 850 00:19:53,626 --> 00:19:55,628 SHOULD EXTEND AN OLIVE 851 00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:57,530 BRANCH TO MITT ROMNEY AND 852 00:19:57,530 --> 00:20:00,233 SAY WHY DON'T YOU BE THE 853 00:20:00,233 --> 00:20:01,334 TREASURY SECRETARY. 854 00:20:01,334 --> 00:20:02,635 >> UNTIL THE PRESIDENT HAD A 855 00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:04,137 PRESS CONFERENCE IN WHICH HE 856 00:20:04,137 --> 00:20:05,338 ANNOUNCED HE WANTED A 857 00:20:05,338 --> 00:20:07,440 TRILLION $600 BILLION IN NEW 858 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:08,341 TAXES, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN 859 00:20:08,341 --> 00:20:11,144 TURN TO GOVERNOR ROMNEY AT 860 00:20:11,144 --> 00:20:13,346 THAT POINT AND SAY, HI -- 861 00:20:13,346 --> 00:20:13,446 ESPECIALLY A TREASURY 862 00:20:13,446 --> 00:20:15,448 SECRETARY TO GIVE A TRILLION 863 00:20:15,448 --> 00:20:16,249 600 BILLION. 864 00:20:16,249 --> 00:20:17,450 >> ALTHOUGH BILL, CRYSTAL, 865 00:20:17,450 --> 00:20:18,952 AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH 866 00:20:18,952 --> 00:20:19,652 MITT ROMNEY DURING THE 867 00:20:19,652 --> 00:20:22,455 CAMPAIGN HAVE EXPRESSED MORE 868 00:20:22,455 --> 00:20:24,457 OPENNESS TO TAX INCREASES ON 869 00:20:24,457 --> 00:20:25,658 THE WEALTHY DURING THE 870 00:20:25,658 --> 00:20:26,259 CAMPAIGN. 871 00:20:26,259 --> 00:20:27,060 >> THAT WOULD -- 872 00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:28,595 >> THAT WOULD DISQUALIFY HIM 873 00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:30,397 IN SOME RESPECTS. 874 00:20:30,397 --> 00:20:31,798 >> I DON'T THINK MITT ROMNEY 875 00:20:31,798 --> 00:20:34,401 HAS ANY INTENTION TO MEET A 876 00:20:34,401 --> 00:20:38,705 MAN WHO DEFIES HIS CORE 877 00:20:38,705 --> 00:20:46,413 PRINCIPLES ON BEHALF BARACK 878 00:20:46,413 --> 00:20:46,513 OBAMA. >> BACK ON EVAN SMITH -- >> THE SPEAKER -- 879 00:20:46,513 --> 00:20:47,514 >> HE WILL BE AROUND LONGER THAN WE WILL. HE IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE NUCLEAR WASTE. 880 00:20:47,514 --> 00:20:48,915 >> ONE HUNDRED YEARS FROM 881 00:20:48,915 --> 00:20:49,115 NOW, WE WILL BE GONE AND 882 00:20:49,115 --> 00:20:51,217 NEWT GINGRICH WILL BE HERE. 883 00:20:51,217 --> 00:20:53,520 >> HE STRIKES ME AS HIS OWN 884 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,821 SPECIFIC PLACE IN HISTORY, 885 00:20:54,821 --> 00:20:56,523 WITHOUT BEING OBNOXIOUS 886 00:20:56,523 --> 00:20:57,023 ABOUT IT. 887 00:20:57,023 --> 00:20:57,524 >> HE CAN BE OBNOXIOUS. 888 00:20:57,524 --> 00:20:59,826 REMEMBER, THIS IS NEWT 889 00:20:59,826 --> 00:21:00,927 GINGRICH WITH THE OLD 890 00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:01,728 CONTRACT WITH AMERICA AND 891 00:21:01,728 --> 00:21:04,030 THE TEMPER TANTRUM WHEN HE 892 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:05,632 DIDN'T GET TO RIDE ON THE 893 00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:07,434 PLANE WITH BILL CLINTON. 894 00:21:07,434 --> 00:21:08,535 EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE SAID 895 00:21:08,535 --> 00:21:09,436 ABOUT NEWT GINGRICH HAS BEEN 896 00:21:09,436 --> 00:21:11,638 SAID AND EVERYTHING SAID TO 897 00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:12,739 NEWT GINGRICH HE HAS HEARD 898 00:21:12,739 --> 00:21:13,440 100 TIMES. 899 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,141 IN SOME RESPECTS, IT IS THE 900 00:21:15,141 --> 00:21:16,543 BEST PLACE TO BE IN IF YOU 901 00:21:16,543 --> 00:21:17,744 ARE A PERSON OF PUBLIC LIFE. 902 00:21:17,744 --> 00:21:18,845 THEY CAN'T SAY ANYTHING TO 903 00:21:18,845 --> 00:21:20,046 HURT YOU BECAUSE YOU HEARD 904 00:21:20,046 --> 00:21:20,947 IT ALL BEFORE. 905 00:21:20,947 --> 00:21:22,549 >> AND YOU ARE PREPARED WITH 906 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:23,249 A RESPONSE. 907 00:21:23,249 --> 00:21:24,351 >> YOU HAVE 15 RESPONSES. 908 00:21:24,351 --> 00:21:25,652 SO TO HAVE A GUEST LIKE THAT 909 00:21:25,652 --> 00:21:27,754 LIBERATED FROM ANY RESTRAINT 910 00:21:27,754 --> 00:21:28,888 IS PERFECT. 911 00:21:28,888 --> 00:21:31,591 WE ASKED NEWT GINGRICH ABOUT 912 00:21:31,591 --> 00:21:32,192 MITT ROMNEY. 913 00:21:32,192 --> 00:21:34,094 IT WAS THE 2012 CAMPAIGN WE 914 00:21:34,094 --> 00:21:35,395 TALKED TO SPEAKER GINGRICH 915 00:21:35,395 --> 00:21:37,797 AND HE WAS OKAY TO BE CANDID 916 00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:40,600 AND THROW GOVERNOR ROMNEY 917 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:41,601 UNDER THE BUS. 918 00:21:41,601 --> 00:21:42,902 HE KNEW THERE WAS NO RISK OR 919 00:21:42,902 --> 00:21:43,703 PROBLEM WITH THAT. 920 00:21:43,703 --> 00:21:44,304 >> YOU MENTIONED THE 921 00:21:44,304 --> 00:21:46,006 SPEAKER'S PLACE IN HISTORY. 922 00:21:46,006 --> 00:21:48,008 HE IS FAMOUSLY A HISTORIAN. 923 00:21:48,008 --> 00:21:50,510 HE KNOWS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT 924 00:21:50,510 --> 00:21:51,711 OF HISTORY AND WILL TELL YOU 925 00:21:51,711 --> 00:21:53,813 IN A DROP OF THE HAT THAT HE 926 00:21:53,813 --> 00:21:54,214 KNOWS. 927 00:21:54,214 --> 00:21:55,715 AND THEY SAY THESE PARTS, IT 928 00:21:55,715 --> 00:21:57,317 AIN'T BRAGGING IF YOU CAN DO 929 00:21:57,317 --> 00:21:57,717 IT. 930 00:21:57,717 --> 00:21:59,719 THE GUY IS QUITE CONVERSANT 931 00:21:59,719 --> 00:22:01,021 ALMOST ANY ASPECT OF 932 00:22:01,021 --> 00:22:02,522 HISTORY, PARTICULARLY 933 00:22:02,522 --> 00:22:03,523 POLITICAL HISTORY. 934 00:22:03,523 --> 00:22:04,824 HE KNOWS SO MUCH SO IF YOU 935 00:22:04,824 --> 00:22:06,026 HIT HIM WITH A SUBJECT, YOU 936 00:22:06,026 --> 00:22:07,627 CAN ASSUME THAT HE WILL HAVE 937 00:22:07,627 --> 00:22:09,729 10 MINUTES, ONE SENTENCE, NO 938 00:22:09,729 --> 00:22:11,031 PUNCTUATION TO OFFER YOU ON 939 00:22:11,031 --> 00:22:11,931 THE TOPIC. 940 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:14,434 RETICENT GUESTS ARE NOT GOOD 941 00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:16,136 GUESTS. 942 00:22:16,136 --> 00:22:19,939 RETICENCE IS GOOD ON SOME 943 00:22:19,939 --> 00:22:21,441 ASPECTS OF LIFE BUT ON THIS, 944 00:22:21,441 --> 00:22:21,941 YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO 945 00:22:21,941 --> 00:22:22,942 ANSWER YES, NO. 946 00:22:22,942 --> 00:22:23,643 >> THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING 947 00:22:23,643 --> 00:22:25,445 TO GO BACK AND DO THAT IN 948 00:22:25,445 --> 00:22:26,646 THE FUTURE. 949 00:22:26,646 --> 00:22:27,347 >> YES. 950 00:22:27,347 --> 00:22:27,747 >> I WAS FASCINATED 951 00:22:27,747 --> 00:22:29,582 LISTENING TO SPEAKER 952 00:22:29,582 --> 00:22:31,184 GINGRICH GIVE HIS RESCUE TO 953 00:22:31,184 --> 00:22:32,485 SPEAKER BOEHNER, THE IDEA OF 954 00:22:32,485 --> 00:22:34,087 TAKING THE ACHIEVABLE 955 00:22:34,087 --> 00:22:34,788 CHUNKS. 956 00:22:34,788 --> 00:22:35,388 >> OH, YEAH. 957 00:22:35,388 --> 00:22:36,790 >> IT SEEMS TO BE SUCH A 958 00:22:36,790 --> 00:22:38,591 CLEAR AND DIRECT. 959 00:22:38,591 --> 00:22:38,692 >> RIGHT. 960 00:22:38,692 --> 00:22:41,995 >> A LESSON THAT ESCAPED OUR 961 00:22:41,995 --> 00:22:43,196 POLITICAL PROCESS RIGHT NOW. 962 00:22:43,196 --> 00:22:44,197 >> BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT 963 00:22:44,197 --> 00:22:45,398 IT, NEWT GINGRICH SEEMS 964 00:22:45,398 --> 00:22:46,800 EXACTLY THE KIND OF GUY WHO 965 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,201 WILL NOT COMPROMISE BUT HE 966 00:22:48,201 --> 00:22:50,003 DID FIND COMMON GROUND WITH 967 00:22:50,003 --> 00:22:51,504 BILL CLINTON AGAIN, WHICH 968 00:22:51,504 --> 00:22:53,306 SEEMS LIKE A VERY LONG TIME 969 00:22:53,306 --> 00:22:54,107 IN THIS COUNTRY POLITICALLY, 970 00:22:54,107 --> 00:22:55,809 SO MAYBE HIS ADVICE FOR 971 00:22:55,809 --> 00:22:57,110 SPEAKER BOEHNER IS NOT THAT 972 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:57,610 FAR OFF. 973 00:22:57,610 --> 00:22:58,611 HE HAS PERSPECTIVE OF HIS 974 00:22:58,611 --> 00:22:58,912 JOB. 975 00:22:58,912 --> 00:23:00,613 VERY PEOPLE HAVE HAD THAT 976 00:23:00,613 --> 00:23:01,014 JOB. 977 00:23:01,014 --> 00:23:02,315 VERY FEW PEOPLE CAN SAY WHEN 978 00:23:02,315 --> 00:23:05,919 I WAS SPEAKER, WE DID THIS 979 00:23:05,919 --> 00:23:07,420 THIS WAY, SO THE CURRENT 980 00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:08,521 SPEAKER SHOULD DO IT THIS 981 00:23:08,521 --> 00:23:08,822 WAY. 982 00:23:08,822 --> 00:23:10,223 I THINK IT IS AMAZING. 983 00:23:10,223 --> 00:23:11,224 >> THE BOTTOM LINE WHEN YOU 984 00:23:11,224 --> 00:23:12,325 FINISHED THE INTERVIEW AND 985 00:23:12,325 --> 00:23:13,727 FINISH TALKING TO HIM, DO 986 00:23:13,727 --> 00:23:15,528 YOU THINK HE IS GOING TO RUN 987 00:23:15,528 --> 00:23:17,030 AGAIN, WHAT IS YOUR SENSE? 988 00:23:17,030 --> 00:23:18,031 >> MY SENSE IS HE LOVES TO 989 00:23:18,031 --> 00:23:19,532 BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT. 990 00:23:19,532 --> 00:23:21,634 NOW, THAT MAY MEAN RUNNING 991 00:23:21,634 --> 00:23:23,937 FOR OFFICE AGAIN OR TO MEET 992 00:23:23,937 --> 00:23:25,038 THE PRESS ON THE THIRD 993 00:23:25,038 --> 00:23:26,940 SUNDAY BUT WE WILL NEVER SEE 994 00:23:26,940 --> 00:23:28,641 HIM GO AWAY COMPLETELY AND I 995 00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:30,043 HAVE TO TELL YOU, I THINK HE 996 00:23:30,043 --> 00:23:31,044 CONTRIBUTES A LOT TO THE 997 00:23:31,044 --> 00:23:31,344 CONVERSATION. 998 00:23:31,344 --> 00:23:38,151 HE MAKES SOME PEOPLE MAD. 999 00:23:38,151 --> 00:23:39,552 >> CLEARLY RUNNING FOR THIS 1000 00:23:39,552 --> 00:23:40,553 DOESN'T MEAN -- 1001 00:23:40,553 --> 00:23:41,354 >> GOODNESS, I DON'T THINK 1002 00:23:41,354 --> 00:23:44,457 HE EXPECTED TO BE ELECTED 1003 00:23:44,457 --> 00:23:46,059 BUT HE EXCEEDED HIS OWN 1004 00:23:46,059 --> 00:23:47,060 EXPECTATIONS AND CERTAINLY 1005 00:23:47,060 --> 00:23:49,062 THE REST OF US WHO WROTE HIM 1006 00:23:49,062 --> 00:23:54,067 OFF. 1007 00:23:54,067 --> 00:23:59,272 >> SO WHERE IS HE? 1008 00:23:59,272 --> 00:24:00,273 >> HE WAS WELL RECEIVED. 1009 00:24:00,273 --> 00:24:01,675 I THINK PEOPLE APPRECIATED 1010 00:24:01,675 --> 00:24:02,475 HE WAS GAME TO ANSWER 1011 00:24:02,475 --> 00:24:03,777 QUESTIONS AND THE Q AND A 1012 00:24:03,777 --> 00:24:04,978 WITH THE AUDIENCE, HE GOT 1013 00:24:04,978 --> 00:24:06,579 INTO AN ARGUMENT OR TWO WITH 1014 00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:08,081 PEOPLE WHO ASKED THINGS HE 1015 00:24:08,081 --> 00:24:09,683 DIDN'T LIKE, BUT THAT IS 1016 00:24:09,683 --> 00:24:10,884 OKAY, I THINK HE HAS BEEN 1017 00:24:10,884 --> 00:24:17,691 THROUGH THAT ROAD BEFORE AND 1018 00:24:17,691 --> 00:24:19,492 AS WE SAID ABOUT RONALD 1019 00:24:19,492 --> 00:24:20,894 RAGAN, HE IS A HAPPY 1020 00:24:20,894 --> 00:24:23,196 WARRIOR, HAPPY WARRIOR. 1021 00:24:23,196 --> 00:24:24,297 >> AND IF THEY GO TO THE 1022 00:24:24,297 --> 00:24:27,000 WEBSITE, THEY CAN SEE THE 1023 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,134 INTERVIEW AND THERE ARE 1024 00:24:28,134 --> 00:24:29,135 FASCINATING THINGS THAT 1025 00:24:29,135 --> 00:24:29,536 HAPPEN. 1026 00:24:29,536 --> 00:24:31,037 >> YES, AND, YOU, TOO CAN BE 1027 00:24:31,037 --> 00:24:31,738 IN THE AUDIENCE. 1028 00:24:31,738 --> 00:24:32,839 YOU, TOO, CAN MAKE NEWT 1029 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:33,740 GINGRICH MAD. 1030 00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:34,140 >> ABSOLUTELY. 1031 00:24:34,140 --> 00:24:34,741 >> RIGHT. 1032 00:24:34,741 --> 00:24:35,742 >> WHEN YOU CALL IN WITH 1033 00:24:35,742 --> 00:24:38,845 YOUR GIFT AT 866-910-KLRU, 1034 00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:39,846 LET THE REPRESENTATIVE YOU 1035 00:24:39,846 --> 00:24:42,349 ARE TALKING TO KNOW YOU WANT 1036 00:24:42,349 --> 00:24:44,050 TO BE PART OF "OVERHEARD" 1037 00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:44,751 TAPINGS. 1038 00:24:44,751 --> 00:24:46,152 IF YOU LOVE WATCHING IT AT 1039 00:24:46,152 --> 00:24:47,454 HOME YOU WILL LOVE TO BE 1040 00:24:47,454 --> 00:24:49,255 PART OF OUR AUDIENCE, WHEN 1041 00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:53,860 YOU CALL IN FOR YOUR SUPPORT 1042 00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:55,862 AND WE ALSO HAVE THANK YOU 1043 00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:57,063 GIFTS IF YOU WANT TO CALL AT 1044 00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:58,765 THE 150-DOLLAR LEVEL, WE 1045 00:24:58,765 --> 00:25:00,467 WILL GIVE YOU ONE PASS TO 1046 00:25:00,467 --> 00:25:01,968 THE UPCOMING TEXAS TRIBUNE 1047 00:25:01,968 --> 00:25:04,471 FESTIVAL, SEPTEMBER 27-29, 1048 00:25:04,471 --> 00:25:05,372 AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS 1049 00:25:05,372 --> 00:25:05,672 CAMPUS. 1050 00:25:05,672 --> 00:25:07,173 THERE ARE OVER 150 GREAT 1051 00:25:07,173 --> 00:25:08,775 SPEAKERS FROM ALL OVER THE 1052 00:25:08,775 --> 00:25:10,076 COUNTRY AND IT IS RIGHT HERE 1053 00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:11,578 IN TEXAS, INCLUDING STATE 1054 00:25:11,578 --> 00:25:13,680 SENATOR WENDY DAVIS AND U.S. 1055 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,081 SENATOR TED CRUZ THAT WILL 1056 00:25:15,081 --> 00:25:16,583 BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO -- 1057 00:25:16,583 --> 00:25:17,784 TO LISTEN TO AT THE TEXAS 1058 00:25:17,784 --> 00:25:19,786 TRIBUNE FESTIVAL. 1059 00:25:19,786 --> 00:25:22,088 ALSO AT THE 200-DOLLAR LEVEL 1060 00:25:22,088 --> 00:25:25,692 WE HAVE THE ROKU 3, A BRAND 1061 00:25:25,692 --> 00:25:26,893 NEW WAY TO WATCH TELEVISION 1062 00:25:26,893 --> 00:25:28,228 AND WE HAVE PROUD TO HAVE 1063 00:25:28,228 --> 00:25:30,530 KLRU ON THE ROKU 3, OUR OWN 1064 00:25:30,530 --> 00:25:31,931 AND YOU CAN WATCH THE 1065 00:25:31,931 --> 00:25:33,733 NATIONAL PBS PROGRAMS AND 1066 00:25:33,733 --> 00:25:35,435 INCLUDING THE "OVERHEARDS" 1067 00:25:35,435 --> 00:25:36,336 YOU WANT TO WATCH. 1068 00:25:36,336 --> 00:25:37,737 SO, PLEASE, GIVE US A CALL 1069 00:25:37,737 --> 00:25:38,238 RIGHT NOW. 1070 00:25:38,238 --> 00:25:38,538 >> OKAY. 1071 00:25:38,538 --> 00:25:39,339 WE ARE BACK. 1072 00:25:39,339 --> 00:25:40,640 THANK YOU, ERIN, FOR THE 1073 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,541 THIRD CLIP TODAY. 1074 00:25:41,541 --> 00:25:42,242 SOMETHING I HAVE TO TELL 1075 00:25:42,242 --> 00:25:42,642 YOU. 1076 00:25:42,642 --> 00:25:43,843 I DON'T GET AFRAID OF 1077 00:25:43,843 --> 00:25:45,645 INTERVIEWING VERY MANY 1078 00:25:45,645 --> 00:25:47,247 PEOPLE AS I DO THIS A LOT. 1079 00:25:47,247 --> 00:25:48,548 I DON'T GET ANY FEAR OR 1080 00:25:48,548 --> 00:25:49,749 ANXIETY ABOUT INTERVIEWING, 1081 00:25:49,749 --> 00:25:51,051 BUT WHEN SUPREME COURT 1082 00:25:51,051 --> 00:25:52,052 JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR 1083 00:25:52,052 --> 00:25:56,856 APPEARED ON STAGE, I CONFESS 1084 00:25:56,856 --> 00:25:58,258 TO BEING A LITTLE NERVOUS. 1085 00:25:58,258 --> 00:25:59,059 THIS AN IS EXTRAORDINARILY 1086 00:25:59,059 --> 00:26:00,060 IMPORTANT FIGURE IN AMERICAN 1087 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:00,560 HISTORY. 1088 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,563 THE FIRST LATINA SUPREME 1089 00:26:03,563 --> 00:26:05,165 COURT JUSTICE AND WITH A LOT 1090 00:26:05,165 --> 00:26:07,567 OF INTELLECT AND SOMEONE WHO 1091 00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:09,569 IS BRINGING REAL DEBATE TO 1092 00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:10,570 THE COURTS, THE HIGHEST 1093 00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:11,371 COURT IN OUR LAND. 1094 00:26:11,371 --> 00:26:11,971 DO YOU KNOW WHAT? 1095 00:26:11,971 --> 00:26:12,972 SHE WAS A REGULAR PERSON. 1096 00:26:12,972 --> 00:26:14,374 SHE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN 1097 00:26:14,374 --> 00:26:14,774 NICER. 1098 00:26:14,774 --> 00:26:15,575 SHE WAS LIKE SOMEBODY YOU 1099 00:26:15,575 --> 00:26:17,777 MET ON THE STREET, SOMEBODY 1100 00:26:17,777 --> 00:26:19,079 FROM THE OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. 1101 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:20,680 SHE WAS WILLING TO TALK 1102 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,781 ABOUT HER PLACE IN HISTORY 1103 00:26:21,781 --> 00:26:22,982 AND TO MY JOY, SHE WAS 1104 00:26:22,982 --> 00:26:23,783 WILLING TO TALK ABOUT 1105 00:26:23,783 --> 00:26:24,584 BASEBALL. 1106 00:26:24,584 --> 00:26:25,285 AS YOU SEE, JUSTICE 1107 00:26:25,285 --> 00:26:27,487 SOTOMAYOR IS A BIG BASEBALL 1108 00:26:27,487 --> 00:26:29,122 FAN, SPECIFICALLY A NEW YORK 1109 00:26:29,122 --> 00:26:31,925 YANKEES FAN, AND I COULDN'T 1110 00:26:31,925 --> 00:26:33,827 HELP ASKING HER THE ONE 1111 00:26:33,827 --> 00:26:34,627 QUESTION ON MY MIND. 1112 00:26:34,627 --> 00:26:35,628 >> I WANT TO ASK YOU A 1113 00:26:35,628 --> 00:26:36,730 COUPLE OF SMALL THINGS 1114 00:26:36,730 --> 00:26:37,530 RELATED TO THE COURT . 1115 00:26:37,530 --> 00:26:37,931 I KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN 1116 00:26:37,931 --> 00:26:39,532 TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THE 1117 00:26:39,532 --> 00:26:40,734 BOOK THAT ENDS 20 YEARS 1118 00:26:40,734 --> 00:26:41,634 BEFORE YOU GO ON THE SUPREME 1119 00:26:41,634 --> 00:26:42,535 COURT, RIGHT? 1120 00:26:42,535 --> 00:26:42,936 >> YES. 1121 00:26:42,936 --> 00:26:44,838 >> I OFTEN DESCRIBED YOU AS 1122 00:26:44,838 --> 00:26:45,638 THE FIRST HISPANIC SUPREME 1123 00:26:45,638 --> 00:26:47,040 COURT JUSTICE. 1124 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,141 DO YOU SELF-IDENTIFY THAT 1125 00:26:48,141 --> 00:26:49,242 WAY? 1126 00:26:49,242 --> 00:26:50,243 DO YOU THINK OF YOURSELF 1127 00:26:50,243 --> 00:26:51,544 THAT WAY OR DO YOU THINK OF 1128 00:26:51,544 --> 00:26:52,846 YOURSELF AS A SUPREME COURT 1129 00:26:52,846 --> 00:26:54,147 JUSTICE WHO HAPPENS TO BE 1130 00:26:54,147 --> 00:26:54,647 HISPANIC? 1131 00:26:54,647 --> 00:26:56,349 HOW DOES THAT SELF-IDENTITY 1132 00:26:56,349 --> 00:26:57,550 PIECEWORK FOR YOU? 1133 00:26:57,550 --> 00:26:59,853 >> NO, I DON'T THINK OF 1134 00:26:59,853 --> 00:27:02,455 MYSELF AS A HISPANIC JUDGE. 1135 00:27:02,455 --> 00:27:03,556 I THINK OF MYSELF AS A 1136 00:27:03,556 --> 00:27:04,157 JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME 1137 00:27:04,157 --> 00:27:05,258 COURT. 1138 00:27:05,258 --> 00:27:08,261 AND WITH THAT THINKING, I 1139 00:27:08,261 --> 00:27:11,965 KNOW I HAVE OBLIGATIONS THAT 1140 00:27:11,965 --> 00:27:14,267 ARE REQUIRED OF ANY JUSTICE, 1141 00:27:14,267 --> 00:27:15,769 THE FIRST AND FOREMOST, TO 1142 00:27:15,769 --> 00:27:17,671 BE OPEN MINDED, SECOND, TO 1143 00:27:17,671 --> 00:27:26,680 BE FAIR AND UNBIAS, AND 1144 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,915 THIRD, TO BE CARING, NOT FOR 1145 00:27:28,915 --> 00:27:30,316 EVERY PARTY WHO WINS BUT FOR 1146 00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:32,218 ANY PARTY THAT APPEARS 1147 00:27:32,218 --> 00:27:35,822 BEFORE ME, BUT TO ACTUALLY 1148 00:27:35,822 --> 00:27:36,723 LISTEN AND TO UNDERSTAND THE 1149 00:27:36,723 --> 00:27:41,528 ARGUMENTS THEY ARE MAKING. 1150 00:27:41,528 --> 00:27:43,930 THAT'S WHY I AM SO TOUGH AT 1151 00:27:43,930 --> 00:27:46,433 ORAL ARGUMENTS. 1152 00:27:46,433 --> 00:27:48,335 THAT'S WHY I AM CRITICIZED. 1153 00:27:48,335 --> 00:27:49,135 I PUSH THEM. 1154 00:27:49,135 --> 00:27:50,337 I PUSH THEM FOR A PURPOSE. 1155 00:27:50,337 --> 00:27:51,638 I WANT THEM TO GIVE ME THE 1156 00:27:51,638 --> 00:27:52,038 BEST ANSWER. 1157 00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:53,340 IF YOU LISTEN TO WHAT I DO 1158 00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:55,642 AT ORAL ARGUMENTS, I ASK 1159 00:27:55,642 --> 00:27:56,242 TOUGH QUESTIONS OF BOTH 1160 00:27:56,242 --> 00:27:58,244 SIDES BECAUSE I WANT PEOPLE 1161 00:27:58,244 --> 00:27:59,846 TO GIVE ME THEIR BEST 1162 00:27:59,846 --> 00:28:00,146 ANSWER. 1163 00:28:00,146 --> 00:28:00,647 >> RIGHT. 1164 00:28:00,647 --> 00:28:01,648 >> CONVINCE ME. 1165 00:28:01,648 --> 00:28:02,048 >> RIGHT. 1166 00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:04,050 AND I AM ENGAGING THEM IN 1167 00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:05,552 THAT PROCESS BECAUSE I WANT 1168 00:28:05,552 --> 00:28:07,554 TO BE -- 1169 00:28:07,554 --> 00:28:07,954 >> HAS YOUR UPBRINGING -- 1170 00:28:07,954 --> 00:28:10,457 THE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES 1171 00:28:10,457 --> 00:28:11,458 OF YOUR UPBRINGING 1172 00:28:11,458 --> 00:28:13,760 CONTRIBUTED ANY WAY TO HOW 1173 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,161 YOU APPROACH THIS TASK OF 1174 00:28:15,161 --> 00:28:17,364 BEING A JUSTICE? 1175 00:28:17,364 --> 00:28:19,366 >> TO THE EXTENT AS A LATINA 1176 00:28:19,366 --> 00:28:21,668 CHILD, I EXPERIENCED 1177 00:28:21,668 --> 00:28:22,869 DISCRIMINATION AND 1178 00:28:22,869 --> 00:28:24,871 MARGINALIZATION. 1179 00:28:24,871 --> 00:28:26,373 I KNOW THAT THERE ARE MANY 1180 00:28:26,373 --> 00:28:28,608 PEOPLE WHO ENTER OUR LEGAL 1181 00:28:28,608 --> 00:28:31,611 PROCESS WHO DON'T FEEL 1182 00:28:31,611 --> 00:28:33,513 PEOPLE HEAR THEM. 1183 00:28:33,513 --> 00:28:35,415 AND SO TO THAT EXTENT, 1184 00:28:35,415 --> 00:28:38,418 WHETHER YOU ARE LATINO OR OF 1185 00:28:38,418 --> 00:28:39,819 ANY OTHER ETHNIC BACKGROUND, 1186 00:28:39,819 --> 00:28:41,521 WHETHER YOU ARE A DISABLED 1187 00:28:41,521 --> 00:28:43,623 PERSON OR NOT, I CAN ASSURE 1188 00:28:43,623 --> 00:28:45,125 ALMOST ANYBODY WHO COMES TO 1189 00:28:45,125 --> 00:28:48,328 COURT, YOU MAY NOT WIN, 1190 00:28:48,328 --> 00:28:50,130 BECAUSE I CAN'T MAKE YOU 1191 00:28:50,130 --> 00:28:51,831 WIN. 1192 00:28:51,831 --> 00:28:53,433 THE LAW TELLS ME WHAT I HAVE 1193 00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:55,135 TO DO OR NOT DO. 1194 00:28:55,135 --> 00:28:55,635 >> RIGHT. 1195 00:28:55,635 --> 00:28:56,836 >> BUT THE ONE THING I CAN 1196 00:28:56,836 --> 00:29:00,140 ASSURE YOU ABOUT IS THAT 1197 00:29:00,140 --> 00:29:02,842 WHAT CONCERNS YOU, I WILL 1198 00:29:02,842 --> 00:29:03,443 LISTEN TO. 1199 00:29:03,443 --> 00:29:04,844 >> GET A FAIR HEARING. 1200 00:29:04,844 --> 00:29:06,246 >> GET A FAIR HEARING. 1201 00:29:06,246 --> 00:29:07,547 THAT'S ALL WE CAN EVER 1202 00:29:07,547 --> 00:29:08,048 PROMISE ANYBODY. 1203 00:29:08,048 --> 00:29:09,149 THE OUTCOMES ARE NOT 1204 00:29:09,149 --> 00:29:10,350 ORDAINED BY US. 1205 00:29:10,350 --> 00:29:10,950 >> RIGHT. 1206 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:12,052 >> BUT WE CAN LISTEN. 1207 00:29:12,052 --> 00:29:12,952 >> AND IN THEORY THAT SHOULD 1208 00:29:12,952 --> 00:29:14,154 BE THE CASE FOR EVERY 1209 00:29:14,154 --> 00:29:15,255 JUSTICE, REGARDLESS OF 1210 00:29:15,255 --> 00:29:16,456 BACKGROUND OR ANYTHING ELSE. 1211 00:29:16,456 --> 00:29:17,557 THOSE ARE THE RULES OF THE 1212 00:29:17,557 --> 00:29:18,358 ROAD, RIGHT? 1213 00:29:18,358 --> 00:29:19,559 >> YES, THERE ARE SOME LEGAL 1214 00:29:19,559 --> 00:29:21,161 SCHOLARS WHO HAVE BEEN 1215 00:29:21,161 --> 00:29:22,962 EXAMINING MY DECISIONS AND 1216 00:29:22,962 --> 00:29:25,165 SOME OF THEM HAVE SAID WHAT 1217 00:29:25,165 --> 00:29:26,766 IS IMPORTANT TO THIS JUSTICE 1218 00:29:26,766 --> 00:29:27,567 IS PROCESS. 1219 00:29:27,567 --> 00:29:29,402 AND IF YOU UNDERSTAND THAT, 1220 00:29:29,402 --> 00:29:31,905 YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR 1221 00:29:31,905 --> 00:29:32,405 JURISPRUDENCE. 1222 00:29:32,405 --> 00:29:33,206 >> VERY GOOD. 1223 00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:34,808 IN THE VERY LITTLE REMAINING 1224 00:29:34,808 --> 00:29:36,710 TIME WE HAVE LEFT, I HAVE TO 1225 00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:38,812 GO COMPLETELY AWAY FROM THE 1226 00:29:38,812 --> 00:29:39,612 COURT. 1227 00:29:39,612 --> 00:29:40,714 QUEENS BOY TALKING TO A 1228 00:29:40,714 --> 00:29:41,715 BRONX GIRL. 1229 00:29:41,715 --> 00:29:43,316 >> IF YOU ARE A METS FAN, 1230 00:29:43,316 --> 00:29:44,718 DON'T TALK TO ME. 1231 00:29:44,718 --> 00:29:45,018 [LAUGHTER] 1232 00:29:45,018 --> 00:29:45,919 >> I AM NOT. 1233 00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:46,820 AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM A 1234 00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:48,922 NEW YORK YANKEES FAN AND I 1235 00:29:48,922 --> 00:29:50,123 AM HAVING UNCHRISTIAN 1236 00:29:50,123 --> 00:29:52,025 FEELINGS ABOUT A-ROD AND I 1237 00:29:52,025 --> 00:29:53,526 AM HOPING YOU WILL TALK ME 1238 00:29:53,526 --> 00:29:54,427 OFF THE CEILING BECAUSE I 1239 00:29:54,427 --> 00:29:55,729 KNOW YOU ARE A BIG NEW YORK 1240 00:29:55,729 --> 00:29:56,629 YANKEES FAN. 1241 00:29:56,629 --> 00:29:59,332 HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT HIM 1242 00:29:59,332 --> 00:30:01,234 WHO HAS SEEN BETTER DAYS? 1243 00:30:01,234 --> 00:30:05,538 >> YOU KNOW, THE YANKEES 1244 00:30:05,538 --> 00:30:06,539 THROUGH MOST OF THE HISTORY 1245 00:30:06,539 --> 00:30:08,041 HAS HAD A LOT OF HEART AND 1246 00:30:08,041 --> 00:30:09,542 THE HEART IS WHAT HAS TAKEN 1247 00:30:09,542 --> 00:30:10,744 THEM ON TO CHAMPIONSHIPS, 1248 00:30:10,744 --> 00:30:12,145 EVEN IMPROBABLE ONES LIKE 1249 00:30:12,145 --> 00:30:13,546 THE ONE I TALKED ABOUT IN 1250 00:30:13,546 --> 00:30:15,348 1978. 1251 00:30:15,348 --> 00:30:16,750 I HOPE THAT THEY CAN MANAGE 1252 00:30:16,750 --> 00:30:18,451 TO FIND THAT HEART AGAIN. 1253 00:30:18,451 --> 00:30:19,252 >> IT'S TOUGH. 1254 00:30:19,252 --> 00:30:20,253 >> IT'S TOUGH. 1255 00:30:20,253 --> 00:30:21,454 >> OH MY. 1256 00:30:21,454 --> 00:30:24,657 >> AND A-ROD HAS HAD HIS 1257 00:30:24,657 --> 00:30:25,658 TOUGH MOMENTS, OKAY. 1258 00:30:25,658 --> 00:30:27,360 I WILL TELL YOU ONE THING 1259 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,395 THAT GAVE ME A DIFFERENT 1260 00:30:28,395 --> 00:30:32,098 PERSPECTIVE TO HIM. 1261 00:30:32,098 --> 00:30:34,601 A-ROD AT EVERY MEETING I HAD 1262 00:30:34,601 --> 00:30:36,703 WITH HIM HAS ASKED ME ABOUT 1263 00:30:36,703 --> 00:30:40,407 MY WORK AND NOT ABOUT 1264 00:30:40,407 --> 00:30:43,209 OPINIONS BUT ABOUT WHAT I 1265 00:30:43,209 --> 00:30:46,713 DO, AND IT'S IMPORTANT. 1266 00:30:46,713 --> 00:30:47,914 HE'S REALLY TRIED TO 1267 00:30:47,914 --> 00:30:48,415 UNDERSTAND. 1268 00:30:48,415 --> 00:30:49,315 >> DID YOU EVER ASK HIM 1269 00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:52,218 ABOUT HIS WORK, WHY ARE YOU 1270 00:30:52,218 --> 00:30:53,920 SO BAD DURING THE PLAYOFFS? 1271 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,320 [LAUGHTER] 1272 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,622 >> NO, BUT I WILL TELL YOU A 1273 00:30:55,622 --> 00:30:57,223 STORY I HEARD, WHICH IS 1274 00:30:57,223 --> 00:30:59,325 SOMETHING THAT I HOPE SORT 1275 00:30:59,325 --> 00:31:03,229 OF DOVETAILS WITH MY BOOK. 1276 00:31:03,229 --> 00:31:03,530 >> YES. 1277 00:31:03,530 --> 00:31:05,031 >> WHEN HE SIGNS HIS VERY 1278 00:31:05,031 --> 00:31:06,433 FIRST BIG CONTRACT, HE PICKS 1279 00:31:06,433 --> 00:31:08,034 UP THE PHONE AND CALLS 1280 00:31:08,034 --> 00:31:10,036 WARREN BUFFET AND SAID, I 1281 00:31:10,036 --> 00:31:11,938 HEAR YOU KNOW HOW TO INVEST 1282 00:31:11,938 --> 00:31:13,340 MONEY. 1283 00:31:13,340 --> 00:31:13,840 [LAUGHTER] 1284 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,742 CAN YOU HELP ME. 1285 00:31:15,742 --> 00:31:16,443 >> REALLY? 1286 00:31:16,443 --> 00:31:16,843 >> ALL RIGHT. 1287 00:31:16,843 --> 00:31:18,445 THE LESSON I AM TRYING TO 1288 00:31:18,445 --> 00:31:19,946 TEACH IN THAT BOOK, HE 1289 00:31:19,946 --> 00:31:20,547 FOLLOWED. 1290 00:31:20,547 --> 00:31:21,848 THERE IS A LOT ABOUT HIM. 1291 00:31:21,848 --> 00:31:22,248 >> YES. 1292 00:31:22,248 --> 00:31:24,951 >> A LOT OF GOOD ABOUT HIM. 1293 00:31:24,951 --> 00:31:26,252 YOU KNOW, I WANT THE YANKEES 1294 00:31:26,252 --> 00:31:27,153 TO WIN, TOO. 1295 00:31:27,153 --> 00:31:28,188 >> WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. 1296 00:31:28,188 --> 00:31:29,589 [LAUGHTER]. 1297 00:31:29,589 --> 00:31:30,690 ¶ 1298 00:31:30,690 --> 00:31:32,092 ¶ 1299 00:31:32,092 --> 00:31:33,593 >> SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, 1300 00:31:33,593 --> 00:31:34,394 WHAT A RARE OPPORTUNITY TO 1301 00:31:34,394 --> 00:31:35,395 HAVE THAT KIND OF CLOSE 1302 00:31:35,395 --> 00:31:36,396 VISIT WITH SOMEONE LIKE 1303 00:31:36,396 --> 00:31:37,597 JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR. 1304 00:31:37,597 --> 00:31:38,498 >> LIVING HISTORY. 1305 00:31:38,498 --> 00:31:40,500 YOU KNOW, WE HAD OVER THE 10 1306 00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,002 OR SO YEARS WE HAVE DONE THE 1307 00:31:42,002 --> 00:31:43,203 TWO PROGRAMS TOGETHER, WE 1308 00:31:43,203 --> 00:31:46,206 TALKED ABOUT BILL, WE 1309 00:31:46,206 --> 00:31:47,607 PROBABLY HAD 15 OR 16 PEOPLE 1310 00:31:47,607 --> 00:31:49,209 WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT, 1311 00:31:49,209 --> 00:31:50,510 ACTIVE OR IN THE PAST, NEVER 1312 00:31:50,510 --> 00:31:52,612 HAD SUPREME COURT JUSTICE 1313 00:31:52,612 --> 00:31:53,013 BEFORE. 1314 00:31:53,013 --> 00:31:54,714 IN FACT, I NEVER MET, BEEN 1315 00:31:54,714 --> 00:31:55,915 IN THE ROOM WITH A SUPREME 1316 00:31:55,915 --> 00:31:57,217 COURT JUSTICE UNTIL JUSTICE 1317 00:31:57,217 --> 00:31:58,318 SOTOMAYOR. 1318 00:31:58,318 --> 00:31:59,419 AND SHE IS JUST FOLKS, SHE 1319 00:31:59,419 --> 00:32:00,720 IS THE MOST REGULAR PERSON 1320 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:01,321 IN THE WORLD. 1321 00:32:01,321 --> 00:32:02,922 COULDN'T BE ANY NICER. 1322 00:32:02,922 --> 00:32:05,025 INCREDIBLY GRACIOUS. 1323 00:32:05,025 --> 00:32:06,626 YOU MAY REMEMBER WE HAD THE 1324 00:32:06,626 --> 00:32:09,629 MOST RSVPS TO ATTEND THE 1325 00:32:09,629 --> 00:32:11,131 TAPING FOR JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR 1326 00:32:11,131 --> 00:32:11,931 THAN EVER BEFORE. 1327 00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:13,133 WE HAD SOMETHING LIKE 800 1328 00:32:13,133 --> 00:32:14,934 PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR 320 OR SO 1329 00:32:14,934 --> 00:32:15,735 SLOTS. 1330 00:32:15,735 --> 00:32:16,436 >> BUT I ALSO REMEMBER THERE 1331 00:32:16,436 --> 00:32:18,038 WAS A GROUP OF SCHOOL KIDS. 1332 00:32:18,038 --> 00:32:19,039 >> RIGHT, SO WE ALLOWED 1333 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:20,640 IN -- WE HAD THE SCHOOL KIDS 1334 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,142 HERE AND WE ALLOWED AS MANY 1335 00:32:22,142 --> 00:32:23,743 PEOPLE AS WE COULD AND SHE 1336 00:32:23,743 --> 00:32:25,345 MADE A POINT TO TAKE AS MUCH 1337 00:32:25,345 --> 00:32:26,546 TIME AS POSSIBLE TO ANSWER 1338 00:32:26,546 --> 00:32:27,647 AS MANY QUESTIONS AS 1339 00:32:27,647 --> 00:32:27,947 POSSIBLE. 1340 00:32:27,947 --> 00:32:29,582 SHE WAS NOT IMPERIOUS. 1341 00:32:29,582 --> 00:32:31,384 NOT UNGRACIOUS. 1342 00:32:31,384 --> 00:32:34,788 >> AGAIN, SHE WENT TO THE 1343 00:32:34,788 --> 00:32:36,790 INDIVIDUAL KIDS OF THE GROUP 1344 00:32:36,790 --> 00:32:38,191 AND TALKED TO THEM. 1345 00:32:38,191 --> 00:32:39,492 AS A 12 YEAR OLD TO BE ABLE 1346 00:32:39,492 --> 00:32:40,694 TO TALK TO A JUSTICE. 1347 00:32:40,694 --> 00:32:41,895 >> I THINK SHE HAS A LOT OF 1348 00:32:41,895 --> 00:32:42,796 PERSPECTIVE WHO SHE WAS AND 1349 00:32:42,796 --> 00:32:43,997 HOW SHE GOT TO THE POINT AND 1350 00:32:43,997 --> 00:32:45,198 WHAT A JOURNEY TO GO FROM 1351 00:32:45,198 --> 00:32:47,200 THE PROJECT IN THE BRONX TO 1352 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,001 PRINCETON AND THEN SUPREME 1353 00:32:48,001 --> 00:32:50,303 COURT JUSTICE, AN AMAZING 1354 00:32:50,303 --> 00:32:50,804 JOURNEY. 1355 00:32:50,804 --> 00:32:51,805 THAT IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THE 1356 00:32:51,805 --> 00:32:52,305 BOOK. 1357 00:32:52,305 --> 00:32:53,506 THE BOOK SHE'S WRITTEN, RARE 1358 00:32:53,506 --> 00:32:54,708 FOR SUPREME COURT JUSTICE, 1359 00:32:54,708 --> 00:32:57,010 MALE OR FEMALE, ANYBODY ON 1360 00:32:57,010 --> 00:32:58,211 THE COURT EVER TO BE OUT IN 1361 00:32:58,211 --> 00:32:59,512 FRONT OF THE CAMERAS AS MUCH 1362 00:32:59,512 --> 00:33:00,613 AS JUSTICE SOTOMAYOR WAS 1363 00:33:00,613 --> 00:33:02,015 AROUND THAT TIME. 1364 00:33:02,015 --> 00:33:03,516 SHE WAS PROMOTING HER BOOK. 1365 00:33:03,516 --> 00:33:05,018 HER BOOK WAS THE LIFE STORY, 1366 00:33:05,018 --> 00:33:06,419 EXPRESSLY NOT ABOUT THE WORK 1367 00:33:06,419 --> 00:33:07,320 ON THE COURT. 1368 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,121 >> IN FACT, YOU FIND 1369 00:33:08,121 --> 00:33:09,622 YOURSELF NOT TO HAVE A 1370 00:33:09,622 --> 00:33:10,924 DISCUSSION ON POLICY ISSUES. 1371 00:33:10,924 --> 00:33:12,325 >> HERE I AM SITTING ON THE 1372 00:33:12,325 --> 00:33:12,926 UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, THERE 1373 00:33:12,926 --> 00:33:14,928 IS A LANDMARK CASE OF 1374 00:33:14,928 --> 00:33:16,429 AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AT THAT 1375 00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:17,630 TIME AND I COULDN'T TALK 1376 00:33:17,630 --> 00:33:18,832 ABOUT IT BECAUSE SHE 1377 00:33:18,832 --> 00:33:19,933 COULDN'T TALK ABOUT CURRENT 1378 00:33:19,933 --> 00:33:21,234 COURT BUSINESS, BUT THE BOOK 1379 00:33:21,234 --> 00:33:22,736 ENDS 20 YEARS BEFORE THE 1380 00:33:22,736 --> 00:33:23,336 SUPREME COURT. 1381 00:33:23,336 --> 00:33:25,138 SO PLENTY TO TALK ABOUT 1382 00:33:25,138 --> 00:33:27,240 GROWING UP AND SOMEHOW SHE 1383 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,541 BECAME THE PERSON SHE IS. 1384 00:33:28,541 --> 00:33:30,543 IN THE END, THE JUSTICE SHE 1385 00:33:30,543 --> 00:33:31,644 IS CONNECTS BACK TO THE 1386 00:33:31,644 --> 00:33:32,545 PERSON SHE IS AND THE PERSON 1387 00:33:32,545 --> 00:33:33,747 SHE IS CONNECTS BACK TO THE 1388 00:33:33,747 --> 00:33:34,147 BOOK. 1389 00:33:34,147 --> 00:33:35,048 >> SHE IS PROBABLY ONE OF 1390 00:33:35,048 --> 00:33:37,550 OUR MOST ENGAGING GUESTS 1391 00:33:37,550 --> 00:33:38,351 I'VE EVER SEEN. 1392 00:33:38,351 --> 00:33:38,952 >> YES, SHE WAS. 1393 00:33:38,952 --> 00:33:40,553 >> AND SHE DID GREAT AND 1394 00:33:40,553 --> 00:33:42,255 ALSO BECAUSE SHE WAS CLEARLY 1395 00:33:42,255 --> 00:33:43,656 ABLE TO DIRECT PEOPLE AWAY 1396 00:33:43,656 --> 00:33:45,458 FROM THINGS SHE WASN'T 1397 00:33:45,458 --> 00:33:46,359 COMFORTABLE OR PERMITTED TO 1398 00:33:46,359 --> 00:33:47,761 TALK ABOUT BUT STILL 1399 00:33:47,761 --> 00:33:49,362 WELCOMED EVERYBODY. 1400 00:33:49,362 --> 00:33:50,463 >> EVERYBODY WHO HAD A 1401 00:33:50,463 --> 00:33:51,865 QUESTION FELT LIKE THEY GOT 1402 00:33:51,865 --> 00:33:53,867 A FAIR HEARING WHICH IS WHY 1403 00:33:53,867 --> 00:33:55,168 PEOPLE LIKE HER AS BEING A 1404 00:33:55,168 --> 00:33:55,368 JUDGE. 1405 00:33:55,368 --> 00:33:56,770 THE BEST PART FOR ME WAS 1406 00:33:56,770 --> 00:33:58,171 TALKING BASEBALL WITH HER. 1407 00:33:58,171 --> 00:34:01,474 I AM A YANKEES FAN WAY BACK 1408 00:34:01,474 --> 00:34:04,277 AND SHE IS A YANKEES FAN AND 1409 00:34:04,277 --> 00:34:07,981 WHEN I TOLD HER I WAS FROM 1410 00:34:07,981 --> 00:34:08,982 QUEENS AND SHE SAID YOU 1411 00:34:08,982 --> 00:34:12,986 BETTER BE NOT BE A METS FAN, 1412 00:34:12,986 --> 00:34:14,387 YOU HEARD. AND SHE HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR. 1413 00:34:14,387 --> 00:34:17,991 >> HOW ABOUT SCALIA, HOW DO 1414 00:34:17,991 --> 00:34:19,392 YOU THINK THAT WILL BE? 1415 00:34:19,392 --> 00:34:20,493 >> YES, I AM NOT SURE THAT WOULD END THE SAME WAY. 1416 00:34:20,493 --> 00:34:20,794 >> WE ARE HERE, 866-910-KLRU. 1417 00:34:20,794 --> 00:34:21,995 THANK YOU FOR WATCHING KLRU 1418 00:34:21,995 --> 00:34:24,097 AND IF YOU WANT TO BE AT AN 1419 00:34:24,097 --> 00:34:25,699 "OVERHEARD" TAPING, MAKE 1420 00:34:25,699 --> 00:34:26,800 YOUR GIFT AND SUPPORT KNOWN 1421 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,901 AND DURING THIS MEMBERSHIP 1422 00:34:27,901 --> 00:34:29,436 DRIVE WE HAVE A GOAL OF 1500 1423 00:34:29,436 --> 00:34:30,136 PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THE 1424 00:34:30,136 --> 00:34:31,237 STATION, SO YOUR GIFT, NO 1425 00:34:31,237 --> 00:34:34,240 MATTER THE AMOUNT YOU CAN 1426 00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:36,042 AFFORD TO GIVE, WILL MAKE US 1427 00:34:36,042 --> 00:34:37,043 CLOSER TO THAT GOAL. 1428 00:34:37,043 --> 00:34:40,447 CALL 1-866-910-KLRU. 1429 00:34:40,447 --> 00:34:43,049 GIVE A GIFT OF $20, $50, 1430 00:34:43,049 --> 00:34:43,750 $100. 1431 00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:45,552 OR 150-DOLLAR LEVEL, WE WILL 1432 00:34:45,552 --> 00:34:46,753 THANK YOU WITH ONE PASS TO 1433 00:34:46,753 --> 00:34:48,355 THE UPCOMING TEXAS TRIBUNE 1434 00:34:48,355 --> 00:34:49,356 FESTIVAL HERE ON THE 1435 00:34:49,356 --> 00:34:50,357 UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS CAMPUS. 1436 00:34:50,357 --> 00:34:51,858 IT IS A GREAT EVENT WITH 1437 00:34:51,858 --> 00:34:53,059 SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN 1438 00:34:53,059 --> 00:34:54,561 PUBLIC POLICY AND IT IS PUT 1439 00:34:54,561 --> 00:34:56,262 ON BY THE TEXAS TRIBUNE. 1440 00:34:56,262 --> 00:34:58,064 WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU 1441 00:34:58,064 --> 00:35:01,267 WITH ONE OF PASSES AT 1442 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:02,168 150-DOLLAR LEVEL. 1443 00:35:02,168 --> 00:35:04,771 AND THE $200 LEVEL, WE CAN 1444 00:35:04,771 --> 00:35:07,974 THANK YOU FOR THE ROKU 3, WE 1445 00:35:07,974 --> 00:35:10,577 ARE HAPPY TO HAVE KLRU AND 1446 00:35:10,577 --> 00:35:11,778 PBS ON THIS. 1447 00:35:11,778 --> 00:35:13,079 YOU CAN WATCH THE NATIONAL 1448 00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:15,682 AND LOCAL PROGRAMS LIKE 1449 00:35:15,682 --> 00:35:15,982 "OVERHEARD" WITH EVAN SMITH 1450 00:35:15,982 --> 00:35:17,283 AND THE ENTIRE ARCHIVE IS 1451 00:35:17,283 --> 00:35:19,185 FOR YOU TO WATCH WHENEVER 1452 00:35:19,185 --> 00:35:20,387 YOU LIKE OVER THE TOP ON 1453 00:35:20,387 --> 00:35:21,988 YOUR TELEVISION. 1454 00:35:21,988 --> 00:35:23,289 PLEASE GIVE US A CALL, ANY 1455 00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:23,690 AMOUNT. 1456 00:35:23,690 --> 00:35:26,292 1-866-910-KLRU. 1457 00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:31,231 >> SO WHEN LAURIE ANDERSON, 1458 00:35:31,231 --> 00:35:33,333 THE GREAT ARTIST WAS HERE, I 1459 00:35:33,333 --> 00:35:35,035 WONDERED HOW WE COULD HAVE A 1460 00:35:35,035 --> 00:35:35,935 CONVERSATION WITH HER 1461 00:35:35,935 --> 00:35:37,037 WITHOUT SHOWING WHAT A 1462 00:35:37,037 --> 00:35:37,937 SHALLOW KNOWLEDGE I HAVE OF 1463 00:35:37,937 --> 00:35:39,139 THE HIGH ARTS. 1464 00:35:39,139 --> 00:35:43,543 I AM A LITTLE MORE LOW ARTS 1465 00:35:43,543 --> 00:35:45,845 THAN A HIGH ARTS GUY, SO YOU 1466 00:35:45,845 --> 00:35:47,447 HAVE TO RAISE THAT TO THE 1467 00:35:47,447 --> 00:35:48,448 LEVEL OF THE GAME AND OF THE 1468 00:35:48,448 --> 00:35:53,753 GUESTS, LAURIE ANDERSON IS A 1469 00:35:53,753 --> 00:35:54,754 INTELLECTUAL AND 1470 00:35:54,754 --> 00:35:56,656 SOPHISTICATE AND SHE WAS 1471 00:35:56,656 --> 00:35:58,058 TALKING ABOUT HOW SHE PLAYED 1472 00:35:58,058 --> 00:36:00,660 FOR DOGS, SHE HAD A CONCERT 1473 00:36:00,660 --> 00:36:02,562 IN SYDNEY WITH DOGS AND I 1474 00:36:02,562 --> 00:36:04,264 THOUGHT SHE WAS PRANKING ME. 1475 00:36:04,264 --> 00:36:05,065 SHE COULDN'T BE TALKING 1476 00:36:05,065 --> 00:36:08,368 ABOUT PLAYING FOR DOGS IN AN 1477 00:36:08,368 --> 00:36:08,968 AUDIENCE. 1478 00:36:08,968 --> 00:36:10,870 SO I THOUGHT I WOULD BE OUT 1479 00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:12,172 IN THE STRATOSPHERE WITH 1480 00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:14,274 THIS GREAT INTELLECTUAL, AND 1481 00:36:14,274 --> 00:36:15,475 INSTEAD, WE WERE TALKING 1482 00:36:15,475 --> 00:36:16,176 ABOUT DOGS. 1483 00:36:16,176 --> 00:36:17,177 SHE WAS A GREAT GUEST, 1484 00:36:17,177 --> 00:36:18,378 REALLY FUN AND INTERESTING. 1485 00:36:18,378 --> 00:36:20,780 WANTED ME TO SEE HER ART AND 1486 00:36:20,780 --> 00:36:22,182 HEAR HER MUSIC, AND IT WAS 1487 00:36:22,182 --> 00:36:22,582 GREAT. 1488 00:36:22,582 --> 00:36:23,883 >> JUST DID A CONCERT FOR 1489 00:36:23,883 --> 00:36:25,185 DOGS AND -- 1490 00:36:25,185 --> 00:36:26,386 >> YOU DID A CONCERT FOR 1491 00:36:26,386 --> 00:36:27,087 DOGS? 1492 00:36:27,087 --> 00:36:27,687 >> I DID. 1493 00:36:27,687 --> 00:36:29,222 >> DOGS IN THE AUDIENCE? 1494 00:36:29,222 --> 00:36:30,123 >> YES. 1495 00:36:30,123 --> 00:36:31,524 AND IT HAPPENED BECAUSE I 1496 00:36:31,524 --> 00:36:33,526 WAS BACKSTAGE. 1497 00:36:33,526 --> 00:36:36,529 I WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE A 1498 00:36:36,529 --> 00:36:38,031 COMMENCEMENT SPEECH FOR 1499 00:36:38,031 --> 00:36:40,133 ARTISTS AND I WAS FEELING 1500 00:36:40,133 --> 00:36:41,034 KIND OF GUILTY BECAUSE IT IS 1501 00:36:41,034 --> 00:36:42,736 HARD TO SAY TO ARTISTS, THAT 1502 00:36:42,736 --> 00:36:45,438 STUDENT LOAN YOU HAVE, IT 1503 00:36:45,438 --> 00:36:47,741 WILL BE SO EASY TO JUST GET 1504 00:36:47,741 --> 00:36:49,442 RID OF IT, NO WORRY ABOUT 1505 00:36:49,442 --> 00:36:50,043 IT. 1506 00:36:50,043 --> 00:36:52,045 PLENTY OF JOBS FOR ARTISTS 1507 00:36:52,045 --> 00:36:52,645 IN THE UNITED STATES. 1508 00:36:52,645 --> 00:36:53,546 [LAUGHTER] 1509 00:36:53,546 --> 00:36:55,749 I HAD A FEELING, WHAT AM I 1510 00:36:55,749 --> 00:36:57,450 GOING SAY TO THE YOUNG 1511 00:36:57,450 --> 00:36:58,451 ARTISTS. 1512 00:36:58,451 --> 00:37:02,555 AND SOMEBODY ELSE IS ALSO 1513 00:37:02,555 --> 00:37:04,157 THERE AND GIVING A SPEECH, 1514 00:37:04,157 --> 00:37:06,459 AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, I HAVE 1515 00:37:06,459 --> 00:37:08,461 THIS FANTASY THAT I AM DOING 1516 00:37:08,461 --> 00:37:10,363 A CONCERT AND I LOOK OUT AND 1517 00:37:10,363 --> 00:37:13,366 THE WHOLE AUDIENCE IS DOGS. 1518 00:37:13,366 --> 00:37:14,768 AND HE SAID, THAT'S MY 1519 00:37:14,768 --> 00:37:16,469 FANTASY, TOO. 1520 00:37:16,469 --> 00:37:17,270 >> IS THAT RIGHT? 1521 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:18,471 >> I SAID, "REALLY? 1522 00:37:18,471 --> 00:37:20,273 WHOEVER GETS THE CHANCE TO 1523 00:37:20,273 --> 00:37:21,374 DO THAT FIRST INVITES THE 1524 00:37:21,374 --> 00:37:21,975 OTHER." 1525 00:37:21,975 --> 00:37:23,176 SO I GOT A CHANCE TO BE THE 1526 00:37:23,176 --> 00:37:24,778 DIRECTOR OF A BIG FESTIVAL 1527 00:37:24,778 --> 00:37:29,816 IN SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA, A BIG 1528 00:37:29,816 --> 00:37:30,817 MUSIC FESTIVAL. 1529 00:37:30,817 --> 00:37:33,219 I INVITED MY FAVORITE PEOPLE 1530 00:37:33,219 --> 00:37:34,621 AND THEATER THINGS AND I 1531 00:37:34,621 --> 00:37:35,922 SAID TO THE PRODUCERS "AND 1532 00:37:35,922 --> 00:37:37,524 WE WILL ALSO DO A CONCERT 1533 00:37:37,524 --> 00:37:38,124 FOR DOGS." 1534 00:37:38,124 --> 00:37:39,526 THEY DIDN'T SAY CONCERT -- 1535 00:37:39,526 --> 00:37:40,627 THEY SAID "CONCERT FOR 1536 00:37:40,627 --> 00:37:42,328 DOGS," WROTE IT DOWN. 1537 00:37:42,328 --> 00:37:43,029 [LAUGHTER] 1538 00:37:43,029 --> 00:37:43,930 >> FLIP ANYTHING ON THAT 1539 00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:44,230 LIST. 1540 00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:45,532 THAT'S FINE. 1541 00:37:45,532 --> 00:37:46,132 HOW GREAT. 1542 00:37:46,132 --> 00:37:47,434 >> SO IT WAS -- IT WAS THE 1543 00:37:47,434 --> 00:37:50,937 MOST WONDERFUL SHOW EVER 1544 00:37:50,937 --> 00:37:52,238 BECAUSE WE THOUGHT ONLY A 1545 00:37:52,238 --> 00:37:54,341 COUPLE HUNDRED DOGS WOULD 1546 00:37:54,341 --> 00:37:54,941 SHOW UP. 1547 00:37:54,941 --> 00:37:56,343 THOUSANDS. 1548 00:37:56,343 --> 00:37:57,043 [LAUGHTER] 1549 00:37:57,043 --> 00:37:58,445 >> ASSUMING IT IS A FREE 1550 00:37:58,445 --> 00:37:59,546 SHOW, YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE 1551 00:37:59,546 --> 00:38:00,947 DOG BUY TICKETS? 1552 00:38:00,947 --> 00:38:02,749 >> NO, BUT THEY HAD TO HAVE 1553 00:38:02,749 --> 00:38:03,850 THEIR PERSON BRING THEM AND 1554 00:38:03,850 --> 00:38:06,152 WE HAD THREE ENORMOUS AREAS 1555 00:38:06,152 --> 00:38:07,554 SET UP FOR LITTLE, MEDIUM 1556 00:38:07,554 --> 00:38:09,656 AND BIG, BUT THERE WERE WAY 1557 00:38:09,656 --> 00:38:11,157 TOO MANY SO THEY WERE ALL ON 1558 00:38:11,157 --> 00:38:13,660 THE STEPS OF SYDNEY OPERA 1559 00:38:13,660 --> 00:38:15,562 HOUSE AND THE CONCERT 1560 00:38:15,562 --> 00:38:16,663 STARTED -- IT WAS A SHORT 1561 00:38:16,663 --> 00:38:17,964 CONCERT, 20 MINUTES. 1562 00:38:17,964 --> 00:38:19,666 >> WELL, DOGS DO HAVE AN 1563 00:38:19,666 --> 00:38:21,368 ATTENTION SPAN PROBLEM. 1564 00:38:21,368 --> 00:38:21,768 [LAUGHTER] 1565 00:38:21,768 --> 00:38:23,370 >> YES, YES, THEY DO, AND IT 1566 00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:24,571 STARTED WITH KIND OF AN 1567 00:38:24,571 --> 00:38:26,473 INVOCATION FOR WHALES 1568 00:38:26,473 --> 00:38:27,974 BECAUSE WE WERE RIGHT ON THE 1569 00:38:27,974 --> 00:38:29,609 HARBOR AND THESE WHALES -- 1570 00:38:29,609 --> 00:38:31,811 AND BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I WANT 1571 00:38:31,811 --> 00:38:35,315 TO DO ANIMAL -- WHALES IN 1572 00:38:35,315 --> 00:38:37,017 THE OCEAN OR DOGS, THEY'RE 1573 00:38:37,017 --> 00:38:38,718 LIKE A GPS SYSTEM, I AM 1574 00:38:38,718 --> 00:38:42,822 HERE, YOU ARE THERE. 1575 00:38:42,822 --> 00:38:43,923 KIND OF TO MAP OUT THE 1576 00:38:43,923 --> 00:38:46,026 TERRITORY, AND SO WE BEGAN 1577 00:38:46,026 --> 00:38:53,033 WITH THAT, AND THEN THERE 1578 00:38:53,033 --> 00:38:55,335 WAS SO MANY ROCKER DOGS 1579 00:38:55,335 --> 00:38:56,436 THERE, IT WAS AMAZING. 1580 00:38:56,436 --> 00:38:57,737 SO MANY DOGS WHO WANTED TO 1581 00:38:57,737 --> 00:39:00,740 ROCK AND MY FAVORITE WAS THE 1582 00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:03,243 DROOLERS IN THE FRONT ROW 1583 00:39:03,243 --> 00:39:04,544 AND IT WAS LIKE -- 1584 00:39:04,544 --> 00:39:06,046 >> LIKE A REGULAR SHOW, WHEN 1585 00:39:06,046 --> 00:39:08,648 THERE ARE HUMAN DROOLERS, 1586 00:39:08,648 --> 00:39:09,249 TOO? 1587 00:39:09,249 --> 00:39:10,350 >> BUT IT WAS THE MOST 1588 00:39:10,350 --> 00:39:11,751 EXCLUSIVELY PREPPED AUDIENCE 1589 00:39:11,751 --> 00:39:12,852 BECAUSE THE LAST WEEK THEIR 1590 00:39:12,852 --> 00:39:14,154 OWNERS HAD BEEN SAYING, "WE 1591 00:39:14,154 --> 00:39:16,156 ARE GOING TO A SHOW, JUST 1592 00:39:16,156 --> 00:39:18,158 FOR YOU AND YOU ARE GOING TO 1593 00:39:18,158 --> 00:39:18,658 LOVE IT." 1594 00:39:18,658 --> 00:39:20,360 SO BY THE TIME THEY GOT 1595 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,062 THERE, THEIR TAILS WERE 1596 00:39:22,062 --> 00:39:23,663 LIKE, YES, YES, OKAY, I AM 1597 00:39:23,663 --> 00:39:24,264 SO EXCITED. 1598 00:39:24,264 --> 00:39:26,766 SO IT WAS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL 1599 00:39:26,766 --> 00:39:28,902 SOUND, THEY WERE ALL REALLY 1600 00:39:28,902 --> 00:39:31,204 WELL BEHAVED, NO FIGHTS. 1601 00:39:31,204 --> 00:39:33,807 AT THE END I SAID OKAY, 1602 00:39:33,807 --> 00:39:35,608 LET'S HAVE THE SMALL DOGS 1603 00:39:35,608 --> 00:39:36,609 START BARKING, SO WOOF, 1604 00:39:36,609 --> 00:39:38,111 WOOF, WOOF. 1605 00:39:38,111 --> 00:39:39,612 >> AND SO THE MEDIUM DOGS 1606 00:39:39,612 --> 00:39:41,514 WOOF, WOOF, WOOF, AND THE 1607 00:39:41,514 --> 00:39:41,915 BIG ONES WOOF, WOOF, WOOF, 1608 00:39:41,915 --> 00:39:43,016 WOOF. 1609 00:39:43,016 --> 00:39:44,017 >> AND THE SOUNDS OF 1610 00:39:44,017 --> 00:39:47,420 THOUSANDS OF DOGS DOING THIS 1611 00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:48,621 JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT WAS 1612 00:39:48,621 --> 00:39:49,522 THE GREATEST SOUNDS. 1613 00:39:49,522 --> 00:39:51,224 IT WAS SO BEAUTIFUL. 1614 00:39:51,224 --> 00:39:52,325 IT WAS JUST PURE JOY. 1615 00:39:52,325 --> 00:39:53,526 >> I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK 1616 00:39:53,526 --> 00:39:55,829 YOU ARE PRANKING ME HERE. 1617 00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:56,629 >> [LAUGHTER] 1618 00:39:56,629 --> 00:39:59,232 >> AND I WILL GOOGLE IT. 1619 00:39:59,232 --> 00:39:59,833 >> GOOGLE IT. 1620 00:39:59,833 --> 00:40:01,334 >> AND DID HE ALSO PLAY FOR 1621 00:40:01,334 --> 00:40:02,335 THE DOGS? 1622 00:40:02,335 --> 00:40:04,037 >> TO, HE COULDN'T MAKE IT. 1623 00:40:04,037 --> 00:40:05,338 >> HE OWES YOU. 1624 00:40:05,338 --> 00:40:06,139 >> FROM SUPREME COURT 1625 00:40:06,139 --> 00:40:07,140 JUSTICE TO A PERFORMANCE 1626 00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:08,441 ARTIST DOING A PERFORMANCE 1627 00:40:08,441 --> 00:40:09,442 FOR DOGS. 1628 00:40:09,442 --> 00:40:10,343 >> AND SOMEHOW I HAVE TO 1629 00:40:10,343 --> 00:40:11,544 MANAGE TO KEEP UP THE BIG 1630 00:40:11,544 --> 00:40:13,546 LEVEL OF ENTHUSIASM AND 1631 00:40:13,546 --> 00:40:16,950 ENERGY THAT IS CAPABLE OF 1632 00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:17,951 CONDUCTING THE INTERVIEW. 1633 00:40:17,951 --> 00:40:19,052 ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT 1634 00:40:19,052 --> 00:40:20,253 BEFORE IS THE MIX OF GUESTS 1635 00:40:20,253 --> 00:40:21,054 ON THE SHOW. 1636 00:40:21,054 --> 00:40:22,756 WE GO FROM LAURIE ANDERSON 1637 00:40:22,756 --> 00:40:24,157 TO SONIA SOTOMAYOR AND 1638 00:40:24,157 --> 00:40:25,458 EVERYBODY IN BETWEEN AND THE 1639 00:40:25,458 --> 00:40:26,659 PREPARATION FOR SOMEONE IN 1640 00:40:26,659 --> 00:40:28,094 THE ARTS AND SPECIFICALLY IN 1641 00:40:28,094 --> 00:40:29,596 MUSIC -- WE DO A LOT OF 1642 00:40:29,596 --> 00:40:30,997 MUSIC PEOPLE ON THIS SHOW -- 1643 00:40:30,997 --> 00:40:33,500 I FIND SOME WAYS TO BE 1644 00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:34,401 DIFFICULT BECAUSE I AM A 1645 00:40:34,401 --> 00:40:35,902 PUBLIC POLICY GUY AND THAT'S 1646 00:40:35,902 --> 00:40:37,504 THE WORLD I LIVE EVERY DAY, 1647 00:40:37,504 --> 00:40:39,105 SO I CAN SIT DOWN WITH NEWT 1648 00:40:39,105 --> 00:40:40,306 GINGRICH OR SONIA SOTOMAYOR 1649 00:40:40,306 --> 00:40:41,608 OR THE MAYOR OF ATLANTA, 1650 00:40:41,608 --> 00:40:43,710 KASIM REED, AND THE GOVERNOR 1651 00:40:43,710 --> 00:40:44,511 FROM MARYLAND, O'MALLEY, I 1652 00:40:44,511 --> 00:40:45,712 CAN ALMOST DO THE INTERVIEW 1653 00:40:45,712 --> 00:40:47,414 WITH NO PREPARATION, BUT FOR 1654 00:40:47,414 --> 00:40:49,115 LAURIE ANDERSON, IT TAKES A 1655 00:40:49,115 --> 00:40:50,717 LOT OF READING AND THINKING 1656 00:40:50,717 --> 00:40:52,619 AND I ACTUALLY GO OFF IN A 1657 00:40:52,619 --> 00:40:54,621 CONTEMPLATIVE PLACE AND SAY, 1658 00:40:54,621 --> 00:40:56,322 WHAT ARE GOOD QUESTIONS TO 1659 00:40:56,322 --> 00:40:59,125 ASK THAT WILL SOLICIT GOOD 1660 00:40:59,125 --> 00:41:01,628 ANSWERS BUT ALSO NOT MAKE ME 1661 00:41:01,628 --> 00:41:03,530 LOOK LIKE A TOTAL RUBE. 1662 00:41:03,530 --> 00:41:06,132 I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THEY 1663 00:41:06,132 --> 00:41:07,334 WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE 1664 00:41:07,334 --> 00:41:09,135 PROCESS AND NOT JUST THE ART 1665 00:41:09,135 --> 00:41:10,937 BUT THE CRAFT AND SHE IS 1666 00:41:10,937 --> 00:41:13,540 FAMOUSLY MARRIED TO LOU 1667 00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:15,442 REED. AND THOUGH WE DIDN'T 1668 00:41:15,442 --> 00:41:17,043 SHOW THAT CLIP, IN THE 1669 00:41:17,043 --> 00:41:18,345 INTERVIEW WE TALKED ABOUT 1670 00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:19,245 WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE 1671 00:41:19,245 --> 00:41:20,146 MARRIED TO SOMEBODY WHO DOES 1672 00:41:20,146 --> 00:41:21,147 THE THING YOU DO AND HAVE 1673 00:41:21,147 --> 00:41:22,949 TWO CAREERS THAT ARE BOTH 1674 00:41:22,949 --> 00:41:24,951 GOING FULL SPEED AT THE SAME 1675 00:41:24,951 --> 00:41:26,453 TIME, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE 1676 00:41:26,453 --> 00:41:28,688 ARE CURIOUS WHAT IS BEHIND 1677 00:41:28,688 --> 00:41:29,189 THE WORK. 1678 00:41:29,189 --> 00:41:30,990 SO WITH HER, I FOUND THE 1679 00:41:30,990 --> 00:41:32,692 PROCESS OF PREPARATION WAS 1680 00:41:32,692 --> 00:41:34,994 ARDUOUS BUT IT PAID OFF 1681 00:41:34,994 --> 00:41:36,296 BECAUSE SHE REALLY RESPONDED 1682 00:41:36,296 --> 00:41:36,996 REALLY WELL. 1683 00:41:36,996 --> 00:41:38,498 >> EARLIER WHEN WE WERE 1684 00:41:38,498 --> 00:41:39,499 TALKING ABOUT THE NEWT 1685 00:41:39,499 --> 00:41:41,101 GINGRICH CLIP AND YOU TALKED 1686 00:41:41,101 --> 00:41:42,902 ABOUT NOT BEING A RELUCTANT 1687 00:41:42,902 --> 00:41:44,504 GUEST AND TALKING ABOUT 1688 00:41:44,504 --> 00:41:45,005 SOMETHING THAT IS 1689 00:41:45,005 --> 00:41:45,705 FORTHCOMING. 1690 00:41:45,705 --> 00:41:46,806 OFFHAND QUESTION BUT I AM 1691 00:41:46,806 --> 00:41:48,808 CURIOUS AS YOU LOOK BACK 1692 00:41:48,808 --> 00:41:50,710 OVER A DECADE OF DOING THESE 1693 00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:52,712 INTERVIEWS, WHO DO YOU 1694 00:41:52,712 --> 00:41:53,613 RECALL AS BEING THE MOST 1695 00:41:53,613 --> 00:41:55,215 RELUCTANT GUEST? 1696 00:41:55,215 --> 00:41:57,217 >> FOR YEARS WE TALKED ON 1697 00:41:57,217 --> 00:41:57,917 THE STAGE ABOUT DEBRA 1698 00:41:57,917 --> 00:41:59,819 WINGER, THE ACTRESS, I WOULD 1699 00:41:59,819 --> 00:42:01,221 SAY "HELLO, MS. WINGER," AND 1700 00:42:01,221 --> 00:42:02,622 SHE WOULD SAY "WHAT DO YOU 1701 00:42:02,622 --> 00:42:03,523 MEAN BY THAT?" 1702 00:42:03,523 --> 00:42:04,724 SHE WAS NOT A VERY HAPPY 1703 00:42:04,724 --> 00:42:05,625 GUEST AND TOOK EVERYTHING 1704 00:42:05,625 --> 00:42:06,426 PERSONALLY, AND THERE ARE 1705 00:42:06,426 --> 00:42:08,128 SOME PEOPLE WHO DO THAT. 1706 00:42:08,128 --> 00:42:10,130 IN THE CASE OF LAURIE 1707 00:42:10,130 --> 00:42:11,131 ANDERSON, SHE WAS A LITTLE 1708 00:42:11,131 --> 00:42:12,732 BIT MORE RESERVED AND, IN 1709 00:42:12,732 --> 00:42:14,334 FACT, SHE WAS WORRIED SHE 1710 00:42:14,334 --> 00:42:14,934 WOULD DUPE THE INTERVIEW, 1711 00:42:14,934 --> 00:42:16,536 AND WHEN SHE DID IT, I WAS 1712 00:42:16,536 --> 00:42:19,839 WONDERING IF IT WAS GOING TO 1713 00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:21,941 BE ONE OF THOSE YEP-NOPE 1714 00:42:21,941 --> 00:42:23,143 INTERVIEWS, AND THEN SHE HAD 1715 00:42:23,143 --> 00:42:24,444 A TOPIC THAT SHE GOT HER 1716 00:42:24,444 --> 00:42:25,345 TEETH INTO AND THE THING 1717 00:42:25,345 --> 00:42:27,347 ABOUT DOGS, IT KILLED ME. 1718 00:42:27,347 --> 00:42:29,082 AND IT WENT ON A LISTENING 1719 00:42:29,082 --> 00:42:29,683 TIME. 1720 00:42:29,683 --> 00:42:31,384 YOU WOULD WANT TO CALL IT A 1721 00:42:31,384 --> 00:42:33,386 SHAGGY DOG STORY AS A 1722 00:42:33,386 --> 00:42:34,788 DELIBERATE PUN AND SHE SAID 1723 00:42:34,788 --> 00:42:35,789 IN FACT, IT HAPPENED AND I 1724 00:42:35,789 --> 00:42:37,691 GOOGLED IT AND, IN FACT, IT 1725 00:42:37,691 --> 00:42:38,892 DID. 1726 00:42:38,892 --> 00:42:39,492 >> THIS WAS INTERESTING WITH 1727 00:42:39,492 --> 00:42:41,695 THE OTHER PERSON. 1728 00:42:41,695 --> 00:42:43,296 >> TOO BAD HE DIDN'T MAKE 1729 00:42:43,296 --> 00:42:44,698 THE CONCERT IN SYDNEY BUT 1730 00:42:44,698 --> 00:42:45,999 INTERESTING THEY GOT THE 1731 00:42:45,999 --> 00:42:46,700 SAME IDEA. 1732 00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:48,601 THE DOGS HAD A GREAT SHOW. 1733 00:42:48,601 --> 00:42:49,903 >> IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT. 1734 00:42:49,903 --> 00:42:52,105 QUICKLY BECAUSE WE ARE 1735 00:42:52,105 --> 00:42:53,306 RUNNING OUT OF TIME ON THIS 1736 00:42:53,306 --> 00:42:54,207 SEGMENT. 1737 00:42:54,207 --> 00:42:55,709 WHO IS THE NEXT ARTIST YOU 1738 00:42:55,709 --> 00:42:56,409 WANT TO HAVE? 1739 00:42:56,409 --> 00:42:58,611 >> DONALD FAISON, THEY ARE 1740 00:42:58,611 --> 00:42:59,612 PLAYING AT THE PERFORMING 1741 00:42:59,612 --> 00:43:00,814 ARTS HERE IN AUSTIN AT THE 1742 00:43:00,814 --> 00:43:01,815 END OF AUGUST. 1743 00:43:01,815 --> 00:43:03,016 WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE 1744 00:43:03,016 --> 00:43:05,018 CAN TO HAVE DONALD FAISON, 1745 00:43:05,018 --> 00:43:06,219 THAT WOULD TAKE ME BACK. 1746 00:43:06,219 --> 00:43:07,620 >> THIS AUDIENCE WOULD BE 1747 00:43:07,620 --> 00:43:08,221 CRAZY. 1748 00:43:08,221 --> 00:43:09,122 >> AGAIN, HANGING FROM THE 1749 00:43:09,122 --> 00:43:10,223 RAFTERS. 1750 00:43:10,223 --> 00:43:11,424 >> AGAIN, YOUR SUPPORT 1751 00:43:11,424 --> 00:43:12,926 ALLOWS US TO HAVE A 1752 00:43:12,926 --> 00:43:17,931 DIVERSITY "OVERHEARD" WITH 1753 00:43:17,931 --> 00:43:19,632 EVAN SMITH, SO WE HOPE TO 1754 00:43:19,632 --> 00:43:23,036 HEAR FROM YOU, 866-910-KLRU. 1755 00:43:23,036 --> 00:43:24,637 AND REMEMBER, EVERYTHING YOU 1756 00:43:24,637 --> 00:43:26,639 DO HELPS US BE STRONG IN OUR 1757 00:43:26,639 --> 00:43:27,340 COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING, 1758 00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:28,541 ALL OF THE LOCAL SHOWS AND 1759 00:43:28,541 --> 00:43:29,342 NATIONAL PRODUCTIONS. 1760 00:43:29,342 --> 00:43:30,944 WE ARE HERE BECAUSE OF YOUR 1761 00:43:30,944 --> 00:43:32,145 SUPPORT AND HOPE TO HEAR 1762 00:43:32,145 --> 00:43:33,146 FROM YOU RIGHT NOW. 1763 00:43:33,146 --> 00:43:34,247 REMEMBER WE HAVE A GREAT 1764 00:43:34,247 --> 00:43:35,148 THANK YOU LEVEL AT 1765 00:43:35,148 --> 00:43:36,950 150-DOLLAR LEVEL, ONE PASS 1766 00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:38,151 TO THE UPCOMING TEXAS 1767 00:43:38,151 --> 00:43:40,353 TRIBUNE FESTIVAL, SO IF YOU 1768 00:43:40,353 --> 00:43:41,254 LIKE HEARING GREAT 1769 00:43:41,254 --> 00:43:42,856 INTERVIEWS AND SPEAKERS LIKE 1770 00:43:42,856 --> 00:43:43,456 "OVERHEARD" WITH EVAN SMITH, 1771 00:43:43,456 --> 00:43:44,157 THEN CALL US AT THE 1772 00:43:44,157 --> 00:43:47,260 150-DOLLAR LEVEL AND GET THE 1773 00:43:47,260 --> 00:43:49,662 ONE PASS TO THE FESTIVAL IN 1774 00:43:49,662 --> 00:43:50,964 SEPTEMBER AND THEN ALSO AT 1775 00:43:50,964 --> 00:43:52,665 200 WE WILL GIVE YOU THE 1776 00:43:52,665 --> 00:43:54,267 ROKU 3 SO YOU CAN WATCH ALL 1777 00:43:54,267 --> 00:43:55,969 OF YOUR FAVORITE PBS AND 1778 00:43:55,969 --> 00:43:57,771 KLRU PROGRAMS WHENEVER YOU 1779 00:43:57,771 --> 00:44:00,173 WANT, THE WHOLE ARCHIVE WITH 1780 00:44:00,173 --> 00:44:00,573 "OVERHEARD" WITH EVAN SMITH 1781 00:44:00,573 --> 00:44:01,875 AND OTHER GREAT PROGRAMS ON 1782 00:44:01,875 --> 00:44:03,176 KLRU, LIKE "CENTRAL TEXAS 1783 00:44:03,176 --> 00:44:05,378 GARDENER" AND "ARTS IN 1784 00:44:05,378 --> 00:44:06,780 CONTEXT" ARE ALL AVAILABLE 1785 00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:08,381 FOR YOU TO WATCH WHENEVER 1786 00:44:08,381 --> 00:44:09,883 YOU WANT AS WELL AS A KLRU 1787 00:44:09,883 --> 00:44:10,884 KIDS PROGRAM AND THAT CAN 1788 00:44:10,884 --> 00:44:13,086 ALL BE YOURS IF THE GIFT IS 1789 00:44:13,086 --> 00:44:14,888 $200, SO WE HOPE TO HEAR 1790 00:44:14,888 --> 00:44:15,789 FROM YOU RIGHT NOW. 1791 00:44:15,789 --> 00:44:16,890 >> OUR LAST CLIP TONIGHT IS 1792 00:44:16,890 --> 00:44:18,291 FROM WHAT MAY HAVE BEEN MY 1793 00:44:18,291 --> 00:44:19,592 FAVORITE SHOW OF THE THIRD 1794 00:44:19,592 --> 00:44:21,394 SEASON OF "OVERHEARD" AND 1795 00:44:21,394 --> 00:44:23,596 THAT IS WITH FRED ARMISEN, 1796 00:44:23,596 --> 00:44:26,099 THE NOW JUST DEPARTED STAR, 1797 00:44:26,099 --> 00:44:27,000 ONE OF THE CAST MEMBERS OF 1798 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,034 "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE." 1799 00:44:28,034 --> 00:44:29,336 HE HAS BEEN ON THE PROGRAM 1800 00:44:29,336 --> 00:44:31,438 FOR 11 YEARS, ONE OF THE 1801 00:44:31,438 --> 00:44:33,640 LONGEST TENURED ACTORS OF 1802 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,442 THAT SHOW AND THE COCREATOR 1803 00:44:35,442 --> 00:44:40,847 AND STAR OF "PORTLANDIA." 1804 00:44:40,847 --> 00:44:42,649 I KNEW WITH HIM, IT WOULD BE 1805 00:44:42,649 --> 00:44:44,150 FUNNY BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IT 1806 00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:45,051 WOULD BE THIS FUNNY AND HE 1807 00:44:45,051 --> 00:44:46,753 IS AS OPEN HOW HE DEVELOPED 1808 00:44:46,753 --> 00:44:48,555 VARIOUS CHARACTERS ON HIS 1809 00:44:48,555 --> 00:44:50,156 SHOW AND HOW HE DEVELOPED 1810 00:44:50,156 --> 00:44:51,157 THE IDEA FOR AND THE 1811 00:44:51,157 --> 00:44:55,462 EXECUTION FOR "PORTLANDIA" 1812 00:44:55,462 --> 00:44:57,263 AND I SAT ALL YEARLONG 1813 00:44:57,263 --> 00:44:58,365 THINKING OF WHAT TO ASK HIM, 1814 00:44:58,365 --> 00:44:59,866 AND I ACTUALLY GOT TO ASK 1815 00:44:59,866 --> 00:45:01,167 HIM EVERY QUESTION I WANTED 1816 00:45:01,167 --> 00:45:02,369 TO AND HE WAS WILLING TO 1817 00:45:02,369 --> 00:45:03,470 ANSWER EVERY QUESTION I 1818 00:45:03,470 --> 00:45:04,671 ASKED, INCLUDING TWO THAT 1819 00:45:04,671 --> 00:45:06,172 HAD TO DO WITH CHARACTERS ON 1820 00:45:06,172 --> 00:45:06,673 THE SHOW. 1821 00:45:06,673 --> 00:45:07,974 YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE THESE 1822 00:45:07,974 --> 00:45:08,475 ANSWERS. 1823 00:45:08,475 --> 00:45:09,476 >> THE GOAL WAS TO MAKE 1824 00:45:09,476 --> 00:45:10,777 EVERY DAY A WORKDAY. 1825 00:45:10,777 --> 00:45:12,078 >> EVERY DAY A WORKDAY. 1826 00:45:12,078 --> 00:45:14,381 YOU ARE SUCCEEDING, YOU 1827 00:45:14,381 --> 00:45:14,781 KNOW. 1828 00:45:14,781 --> 00:45:15,582 >> THAT IS MY GOAL. 1829 00:45:15,582 --> 00:45:16,883 BECAUSE EVEN IF I HAVE TIME 1830 00:45:16,883 --> 00:45:18,485 FOR MYSELF, I MAKE SURE I 1831 00:45:18,485 --> 00:45:19,586 SPEND IT WRITING OR EVEN 1832 00:45:19,586 --> 00:45:22,088 COMING UP WITH AN IDEA. 1833 00:45:22,088 --> 00:45:23,590 I MAKE SURE EVERY DAY HAS 1834 00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:25,592 SOME AMOUNT OF WORK IN IT, 1835 00:45:25,592 --> 00:45:27,093 EVEN IF IT IS FIRING OFF A 1836 00:45:27,093 --> 00:45:28,428 FEW EMAILS -- I CAN'T 1837 00:45:28,428 --> 00:45:29,329 BELIEVE I SAID "FIRING 1838 00:45:29,329 --> 00:45:30,430 OFF" -- THAT IS THE WORST, 1839 00:45:30,430 --> 00:45:31,831 BUT SENDING EMAILS WORK 1840 00:45:31,831 --> 00:45:32,432 RELATED. 1841 00:45:32,432 --> 00:45:34,834 EVERY DAY HAS GOT TO BE SOME 1842 00:45:34,834 --> 00:45:36,136 VERSION OF WORKING, WHERE I 1843 00:45:36,136 --> 00:45:37,337 AM ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING. 1844 00:45:37,337 --> 00:45:37,637 >> RIGHT. 1845 00:45:37,637 --> 00:45:38,838 I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT 1846 00:45:38,838 --> 00:45:40,540 JUST A COUPLE OF THE 1847 00:45:40,540 --> 00:45:41,841 CHARACTERS YOU DEVELOPED AND 1848 00:45:41,841 --> 00:45:44,044 ASK YOU TO TAKE US THROUGH 1849 00:45:44,044 --> 00:45:47,247 YOUR CREATIVE PROCESS. 1850 00:45:47,247 --> 00:45:47,947 YOU MENTIONED QUEEN 1851 00:45:47,947 --> 00:45:51,451 ELIZABETH ONE, THIS IS MY 1852 00:45:51,451 --> 00:45:54,054 FAVORITE ONE WHEN THE QUEEN 1853 00:45:54,054 --> 00:45:55,655 SEEMS DEMURRED AND THEN 1854 00:45:55,655 --> 00:45:57,057 LEAVES THE ROOM. 1855 00:45:57,057 --> 00:45:57,357 >> YES. 1856 00:45:57,357 --> 00:45:59,459 >> AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY 1857 00:45:59,459 --> 00:46:00,560 HILARIOUS THING. 1858 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,561 WHAT IS YOUR PROCESS WITH 1859 00:46:01,561 --> 00:46:02,162 THAT? 1860 00:46:02,162 --> 00:46:03,363 >> WE WROTE THOSE WITH JON 1861 00:46:03,363 --> 00:46:06,566 MULANEY WHO IS A WRITER AND 1862 00:46:06,566 --> 00:46:08,768 BRILLIANT COMEDIAN AND BILL, 1863 00:46:08,768 --> 00:46:09,169 TOO. 1864 00:46:09,169 --> 00:46:09,869 >> BILL HADER. 1865 00:46:09,869 --> 00:46:11,471 >> YES, BILL HADER PLAYS 1866 00:46:11,471 --> 00:46:13,373 PHILLIP AND THEN -- THE -- I 1867 00:46:13,373 --> 00:46:14,474 THINK -- WELL, FIRST OF ALL, 1868 00:46:14,474 --> 00:46:16,276 WHEN I DO THE SKETCH, I LOVE 1869 00:46:16,276 --> 00:46:17,677 IT BECAUSE IT FEELS LIKE I 1870 00:46:17,677 --> 00:46:19,579 AM ON A SKETCH SHOW. 1871 00:46:19,579 --> 00:46:20,880 I FEEL LIKE, WOW, THIS IS 1872 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,084 WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE ON 1873 00:46:24,084 --> 00:46:25,785 A SKETCH SHOW, IT IS PURE, 1874 00:46:25,785 --> 00:46:27,287 LIKE COMEDY. AND FOR ME, I 1875 00:46:27,287 --> 00:46:29,222 LIKE MAKING AN IMPRESSION OF 1876 00:46:29,222 --> 00:46:30,523 MICK JONES IN THE CLASS. 1877 00:46:30,523 --> 00:46:32,125 >> THAT'S WHO IT IS BASED 1878 00:46:32,125 --> 00:46:32,726 ON? 1879 00:46:32,726 --> 00:46:33,526 >> OH, TOTALLY. 1880 00:46:33,526 --> 00:46:33,927 [LAUGHTER] 1881 00:46:33,927 --> 00:46:35,028 >> RIGHT DOWN TO HER PLAYING 1882 00:46:35,028 --> 00:46:36,329 THE GUITAR? 1883 00:46:36,329 --> 00:46:37,831 >> YEAH, LIKE WE WROTE A 1884 00:46:37,831 --> 00:46:39,833 CLASS LIKE SONG FOR IT BUT 1885 00:46:39,833 --> 00:46:40,934 IT IS AN IDEA THAT HAS BEEN 1886 00:46:40,934 --> 00:46:42,635 DONE BEFORE, LIKE BEHIND 1887 00:46:42,635 --> 00:46:44,037 CLOSED DOORS KIND OF THING. 1888 00:46:44,037 --> 00:46:45,238 >> THE OLD SATURDAY NIGHT 1889 00:46:45,238 --> 00:46:47,640 SKETCH OF PHIL HARTMAN AS 1890 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,242 RONALD REAGAN, WHERE 1891 00:46:49,242 --> 00:46:50,143 EVERYONE IS OUT OF THE ROOM 1892 00:46:50,143 --> 00:46:50,844 AND HE IS A DIFFERENT 1893 00:46:50,844 --> 00:46:51,144 PERSON. 1894 00:46:51,144 --> 00:46:53,847 >> YES, WHICH I LOVE AND IT 1895 00:46:53,847 --> 00:46:55,348 IS JUST A GREAT THING AND 1896 00:46:55,348 --> 00:46:56,449 SOMETHING I LOVED TO DO. 1897 00:46:56,449 --> 00:46:57,851 I LOVE DOING THAT SKETCH. 1898 00:46:57,851 --> 00:46:59,352 IT IS SO FUN. 1899 00:46:59,352 --> 00:47:00,653 >> OF ALL OF THE CELEBRITY 1900 00:47:00,653 --> 00:47:02,155 IMPRESSIONS -- AND I DON'T 1901 00:47:02,155 --> 00:47:03,456 THINK IT IS CELEBRITY 1902 00:47:03,456 --> 00:47:06,359 IMPRESSION BECAUSE IT IS AN 1903 00:47:06,359 --> 00:47:08,361 EXAGGERATION. 1904 00:47:08,361 --> 00:47:09,662 >> WE DON'T KNOW. 1905 00:47:09,662 --> 00:47:11,164 >> RIGHT, MAYBE SHE IS MICK 1906 00:47:11,164 --> 00:47:11,865 JONES. 1907 00:47:11,865 --> 00:47:13,366 PENNY MARSHALL, PENNY 1908 00:47:13,366 --> 00:47:15,368 MARSHALL IMPRESSION SEEMS 1909 00:47:15,368 --> 00:47:19,272 GREAT AND OVER THE TOP. 1910 00:47:19,272 --> 00:47:20,173 SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHAT IS 1911 00:47:20,173 --> 00:47:21,474 YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS? 1912 00:47:21,474 --> 00:47:23,176 >> WELL, I THINK THAT WAS 1913 00:47:23,176 --> 00:47:24,978 BESTOWED ON ME AS WELL. 1914 00:47:24,978 --> 00:47:26,579 I THINK THERE WAS SOME 1915 00:47:26,579 --> 00:47:29,716 WRITERS -- I CAME UP WITH 1916 00:47:29,716 --> 00:47:32,018 THE SKETCH IDEA CALLED THE 1917 00:47:32,018 --> 00:47:33,520 LOOKER BECAUSE THERE WERE SO 1918 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,621 MANY CABLE SHOWS LIKE THE 1919 00:47:34,621 --> 00:47:36,222 DETECTIVES AND STUFF THAT I 1920 00:47:36,222 --> 00:47:38,425 HAD NOT HAD IMPRESSION AND I 1921 00:47:38,425 --> 00:47:40,226 WAS LIKE, CAN YOU TRY PENNY 1922 00:47:40,226 --> 00:47:41,127 MARSHALL. 1923 00:47:41,127 --> 00:47:42,128 [LAUGHTER] 1924 00:47:42,128 --> 00:47:44,130 AND SHE IS KIND OF LIKE -- 1925 00:47:44,130 --> 00:47:45,532 SHE OPENS HER MOUTH WHEN SHE 1926 00:47:45,532 --> 00:47:46,833 TALKS AND THEN WE JUST 1927 00:47:46,833 --> 00:47:48,134 DID -- WE JUST DID IT. 1928 00:47:48,134 --> 00:47:49,336 >> AS MUCH PHYSICAL AS 1929 00:47:49,336 --> 00:47:50,937 ANYTHING? 1930 00:47:50,937 --> 00:47:51,538 >> YEAH. 1931 00:47:51,538 --> 00:47:52,639 >> IT IS THE LOOK. 1932 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:53,740 I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT 1933 00:47:53,740 --> 00:47:55,141 BEFOREHAND AND IT WAS EASY 1934 00:47:55,141 --> 00:47:55,742 TO DO. 1935 00:47:55,742 --> 00:47:56,643 >> I LOVE THIS IDEA THAT 1936 00:47:56,643 --> 00:47:57,744 SOMEHOW YOU JUST SORT OF -- 1937 00:47:57,744 --> 00:47:59,145 OKAY, I AM GAY AND I WILL DO 1938 00:47:59,145 --> 00:48:00,647 IT AND DON'T HAVE TO SPEND 1939 00:48:00,647 --> 00:48:02,749 MONTHS DEVELOPING IT, I JUST 1940 00:48:02,749 --> 00:48:03,750 BASICALLY DO IT. 1941 00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:04,851 >> BUT I READ THAT'S WHAT 1942 00:48:04,851 --> 00:48:06,853 THEY DO ON SSTV SOMETIMES 1943 00:48:06,853 --> 00:48:07,954 THEY DO SURPRISE IMPRESSION 1944 00:48:07,954 --> 00:48:08,455 FOR PEOPLE. 1945 00:48:08,455 --> 00:48:09,756 SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DO 1946 00:48:09,756 --> 00:48:10,557 SOMETHING OFF THE TOP OF 1947 00:48:10,557 --> 00:48:11,958 YOUR HEAD IS WHEN IT IS THE 1948 00:48:11,958 --> 00:48:12,258 BEST. 1949 00:48:12,258 --> 00:48:13,760 WHEN YOU DON'T OVERTHINK IT. 1950 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,061 SO YOU THROW IN AN 1951 00:48:15,061 --> 00:48:16,463 IMPRESSION OF SOMEONE, 1952 00:48:16,463 --> 00:48:17,163 SOMETIMES IT IS VERY COOL 1953 00:48:17,163 --> 00:48:18,765 BECAUSE YOU GET THE GENERAL 1954 00:48:18,765 --> 00:48:19,466 IDEA OF THAT. 1955 00:48:19,466 --> 00:48:21,267 >> YOU THE CAN PROBABLY BE 1956 00:48:21,267 --> 00:48:24,070 WORSE THAN USING SSTV AS A 1957 00:48:24,070 --> 00:48:24,871 TEMPLATE. 1958 00:48:24,871 --> 00:48:25,972 >> BILL HADER AND I BOTH 1959 00:48:25,972 --> 00:48:27,474 ACKNOWLEDGED -- MANY OF THE 1960 00:48:27,474 --> 00:48:30,110 SKETCHES WE HAVE DONE IS A 1961 00:48:30,110 --> 00:48:36,016 DIRECT COPY OF TD. 1962 00:48:36,016 --> 00:48:42,422 LIKE LIBERACE ON THE DAVE 1963 00:48:42,422 --> 00:48:43,123 RICE SHOW. 1964 00:48:43,123 --> 00:48:47,127 >> EVERYTHING IS LA MOJE 1965 00:48:47,127 --> 00:48:47,627 BASICALLY. 1966 00:48:47,627 --> 00:48:48,628 >> YES, BECAUSE I WANT TO BE 1967 00:48:48,628 --> 00:48:50,630 ON SSTV, IT IS LIKE BEING A 1968 00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:52,232 MUSIC FAN AND WANTING TO BE 1969 00:48:52,232 --> 00:48:53,733 ON A RECORD SO TO ME IT IS 1970 00:48:53,733 --> 00:48:54,834 LIKE THIS IS A VERSION OF 1971 00:48:54,834 --> 00:48:56,736 BEING ON SSTV. 1972 00:48:56,736 --> 00:48:57,037 >> RIGHT. 1973 00:48:57,037 --> 00:48:58,438 WHEN THIS SEASON IS OVER, AS 1974 00:48:58,438 --> 00:48:59,239 HAS BEEN THE CASE THE LAST 1975 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,941 TWO SEASONS, YOU WILL LAUNCH 1976 00:49:01,941 --> 00:49:04,944 INTO DOING "PORTLANDIA" AND 1977 00:49:04,944 --> 00:49:07,147 YOU DO TEN EPISODES? 1978 00:49:07,147 --> 00:49:07,547 >> YES. 1979 00:49:07,547 --> 00:49:08,648 >> AND THIS IS THE THIRD? 1980 00:49:08,648 --> 00:49:09,649 >> JUST FINISHED THE THIRD 1981 00:49:09,649 --> 00:49:11,451 AND THEN AIRED AND NOW 1982 00:49:11,451 --> 00:49:13,953 WORKING ON THE FOURTH. 1983 00:49:13,953 --> 00:49:15,555 >> TELL THE STORY -- THIS 1984 00:49:15,555 --> 00:49:16,856 GOES BACK TO YOUR FRIENDSHIP 1985 00:49:16,856 --> 00:49:20,460 WITH TERRY BROWN AND YOU 1986 00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:23,063 WERE A FAN OF CEDAR KENNY. 1987 00:49:23,063 --> 00:49:24,564 >> I WAS OBSESSED. 1988 00:49:24,564 --> 00:49:25,665 >> AND YOU WERE A FAN OF 1989 00:49:25,665 --> 00:49:26,166 HER. 1990 00:49:26,166 --> 00:49:27,367 >> I KNEW JANET, WHO WAS A 1991 00:49:27,367 --> 00:49:28,401 FRIEND OF MINE AND I WAS 1992 00:49:28,401 --> 00:49:29,602 INTRODUCED TO CARRIE. 1993 00:49:29,602 --> 00:49:31,805 >> BEFORE "PORTLANDIA," 1994 00:49:31,805 --> 00:49:33,306 THERE WAS THUNDER AND THAT 1995 00:49:33,306 --> 00:49:35,809 PRECEDED AND WAS THE 1996 00:49:35,809 --> 00:49:38,411 INSPIRATION FOR THE REGULAR 1997 00:49:38,411 --> 00:49:38,712 SERIES. 1998 00:49:38,712 --> 00:49:39,913 CAN YOU TELL THE STORY? 1999 00:49:39,913 --> 00:49:41,314 >> I MET CARRIE THROUGH 2000 00:49:41,314 --> 00:49:42,816 JANET AND WE BECAME INSTANT 2001 00:49:42,816 --> 00:49:44,217 FRIENDS AND THEN I JUST 2002 00:49:44,217 --> 00:49:46,019 STARTED TO LIKE HANG OUT 2003 00:49:46,019 --> 00:49:47,220 WITH CARRIE ALL THE TIME. 2004 00:49:47,220 --> 00:49:48,722 ONE OF THE THINGS, WE GOT 2005 00:49:48,722 --> 00:49:50,023 ALONG REALLY WELL AND SHE 2006 00:49:50,023 --> 00:49:51,224 LIVES IN PORTLAND AND THEN I 2007 00:49:51,224 --> 00:49:52,826 WOULD GO OUT THERE, BUT THEN 2008 00:49:52,826 --> 00:49:54,027 WE STARTED MAKING THESE 2009 00:49:54,027 --> 00:49:55,729 VIDEOS FOR NO REASON, JUST 2010 00:49:55,729 --> 00:49:57,831 BECAUSE LIKE -- I WAS ON SNL 2011 00:49:57,831 --> 00:49:59,833 AND I WAS LIKE, LET'S DO 2012 00:49:59,833 --> 00:50:01,835 THIS FOR FUN AND SHE THINKS 2013 00:50:01,835 --> 00:50:04,637 ALONG THE SAME LINES, LIKE 2014 00:50:04,637 --> 00:50:06,840 WORK ALL THE TIME AND IT IS 2015 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,743 LIKE AN ART PROJECT AND WE 2016 00:50:09,743 --> 00:50:10,944 STARTED WORKING ON VIDEOS 2017 00:50:10,944 --> 00:50:12,746 WITH NO PUNCH LINE OR JOKE, 2018 00:50:12,746 --> 00:50:14,647 JUST WEIRD SHORT. 2019 00:50:14,647 --> 00:50:16,149 >> YOUR SENSE OF HUMOR? 2020 00:50:16,149 --> 00:50:16,750 >> YEAH. 2021 00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:17,851 >> THIS WAS REALLY ONE OF MY 2022 00:50:17,851 --> 00:50:18,852 FAVORITE SHOWS OF THE 2023 00:50:18,852 --> 00:50:19,152 SEASON. 2024 00:50:19,152 --> 00:50:19,753 >> IT WAS GREAT. 2025 00:50:19,753 --> 00:50:21,654 >> WHAT A NICE GUY, ALSO, SO 2026 00:50:21,654 --> 00:50:22,856 SORRY TO SEE HIM LEAVE 2027 00:50:22,856 --> 00:50:24,357 "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" BUT HE 2028 00:50:24,357 --> 00:50:26,860 WILL BE ON "PORTLANDIA" AND 2029 00:50:26,860 --> 00:50:27,761 HE IS GREAT. 2030 00:50:27,761 --> 00:50:28,595 >> MY RECOLLECTION OF THAT 2031 00:50:28,595 --> 00:50:29,896 TAPING WAS FACTUALLY THAT, 2032 00:50:29,896 --> 00:50:32,198 WHAT A GENTLE SOUL HE CAME 2033 00:50:32,198 --> 00:50:32,999 OUT TO BE. 2034 00:50:32,999 --> 00:50:33,500 >> GRACIOUS. 2035 00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:34,701 >> AND GRACIOUS WITH 2036 00:50:34,701 --> 00:50:35,602 EVERYBODY. 2037 00:50:35,602 --> 00:50:38,104 >> GENEROUS WITH HIS TIME. 2038 00:50:38,104 --> 00:50:39,806 >> NOT ALL COMEDIANS ARE 2039 00:50:39,806 --> 00:50:40,306 LIKE THAT. 2040 00:50:40,306 --> 00:50:42,008 >> YES, I THINK ALL 2041 00:50:42,008 --> 00:50:44,010 COMEDIANS ARE LIKE THAT, YOU 2042 00:50:44,010 --> 00:50:45,311 CAN'T BE FUNNY, THEY GET TO 2043 00:50:45,311 --> 00:50:46,212 BE FUNNY. 2044 00:50:46,212 --> 00:50:47,514 YOU HAVE THE STRAIGHT MAN 2045 00:50:47,514 --> 00:50:49,115 AND WE HAD THREE PEOPLE OVER 2046 00:50:49,115 --> 00:50:50,116 THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS ON 2047 00:50:50,116 --> 00:50:51,017 FROM "THE DAILY SHOW." 2048 00:50:51,017 --> 00:50:54,421 WE HAD WYATT CENAC AND JON 2049 00:50:54,421 --> 00:50:57,223 HODGE AND THEN WILL AND THEY 2050 00:50:57,223 --> 00:50:59,826 ARE HILARIOUS AND YOU FIND 2051 00:50:59,826 --> 00:51:01,428 YOURSELF LAUGHING AT THEM. 2052 00:51:01,428 --> 00:51:02,729 IT IS HARD TO CONDUCT AN 2053 00:51:02,729 --> 00:51:03,930 INTERVIEW AND YOU ARE 2054 00:51:03,930 --> 00:51:06,833 FACILITATING THEIR STANDUP 2055 00:51:06,833 --> 00:51:07,934 ACT. 2056 00:51:07,934 --> 00:51:08,935 >> AND ALSO AN ISSUE OF 2057 00:51:08,935 --> 00:51:09,636 LANGUAGE ISSUES. 2058 00:51:09,636 --> 00:51:11,538 >> YES, WITH LARRY WILMORE 2059 00:51:11,538 --> 00:51:14,341 WE HAD TO BEEP OUT A LOT OF 2060 00:51:14,341 --> 00:51:17,544 WORDS AND ARMISEN WAS PG AND 2061 00:51:17,544 --> 00:51:17,844 THEN THERE WAS A 2062 00:51:17,844 --> 00:51:22,749 "PORTLANDIA" AUDIENCE AND 2063 00:51:22,749 --> 00:51:24,150 SOMEBODY SHOWN ONE WITH A 2064 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:24,951 HAT AND SHE WAS INTERESTING 2065 00:51:24,951 --> 00:51:27,754 AND HAD GONE TO MAKE THAT. 2066 00:51:27,754 --> 00:51:28,688 CALLED HER UP. 2067 00:51:28,688 --> 00:51:29,689 "LET ME LOOK AT THAT." 2068 00:51:29,689 --> 00:51:33,493 HE IS FAMILY-FRIENDLY GUY 2069 00:51:33,493 --> 00:51:34,894 AND HE IS APPRECIATIVE OF 2070 00:51:34,894 --> 00:51:36,396 THE AUDIENCE AND HE GIVES A 2071 00:51:36,396 --> 00:51:36,896 LOT BACK. 2072 00:51:36,896 --> 00:51:38,198 >> YES, HIS IDEA THAT HE 2073 00:51:38,198 --> 00:51:40,600 WANTS TO WORK EVERY DAY. 2074 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,501 >> THAT HE WANTS TO WORK 2075 00:51:41,501 --> 00:51:42,202 EVERY DAY. 2076 00:51:42,202 --> 00:51:43,203 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE LIKE 2077 00:51:43,203 --> 00:51:45,105 THIS, I CAN'T SIT STILL FOR 2078 00:51:45,105 --> 00:51:46,206 FIVE MINUTES. 2079 00:51:46,206 --> 00:51:46,506 >> ABSOLUTELY. 2080 00:51:46,506 --> 00:51:47,607 >> I IDENTIFY WITH THE 2081 00:51:47,607 --> 00:51:49,709 INSTINCT OF WANTING TO DO 2082 00:51:49,709 --> 00:51:50,710 SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE EVERY 2083 00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:51,011 DAY. 2084 00:51:51,011 --> 00:51:52,012 NOW THAT HE LEAVES "SATURDAY 2085 00:51:52,012 --> 00:51:53,513 NIGHT LIVE," HOW DOES HE 2086 00:51:53,513 --> 00:51:55,215 FILL HIS TIME AND HOW DO WE 2087 00:51:55,215 --> 00:51:56,016 FILL OUR TIME. 2088 00:51:56,016 --> 00:51:58,118 ONE OF THE THREE MAJOR CAST 2089 00:51:58,118 --> 00:52:01,621 MEMBERS TO LEAVE NOW THAT IT 2090 00:52:01,621 --> 00:52:02,822 HAS BEEN GOING ON 40 YEARS 2091 00:52:02,822 --> 00:52:04,224 AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER HE 2092 00:52:04,224 --> 00:52:05,125 LEAVES. 2093 00:52:05,125 --> 00:52:07,427 HE HAS AN INDELIBLE IMPRINT 2094 00:52:07,427 --> 00:52:08,228 ON THE SHOW. 2095 00:52:08,228 --> 00:52:11,131 >> SO ON THE Q AND A, 2096 00:52:11,131 --> 00:52:12,332 BESIDES THE GIRL WHO CAME 2097 00:52:12,332 --> 00:52:14,534 WITH THE HAT, ON THIS SHOW, 2098 00:52:14,534 --> 00:52:15,635 HE DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE. 2099 00:52:15,635 --> 00:52:17,637 >> YES, HE WANTED TO STAY. 2100 00:52:17,637 --> 00:52:18,538 >> IN FACT, HE JOKINGLY 2101 00:52:18,538 --> 00:52:19,639 ASKED THE AUDIENCE OUT TO 2102 00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:20,840 LUNCH WITH HIM AFTER THE 2103 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:21,241 SHOW. 2104 00:52:21,241 --> 00:52:22,142 >> YES, IT IS A RARE THING 2105 00:52:22,142 --> 00:52:23,943 FOR THE GUEST TO BE AS -- 2106 00:52:23,943 --> 00:52:25,145 THE ONLY OTHER GUEST I 2107 00:52:25,145 --> 00:52:26,446 REMEMBER BEING SO GOOD WITH 2108 00:52:26,446 --> 00:52:32,786 THE AUDIENCE WAS TOM BROKAW 2109 00:52:32,786 --> 00:52:34,187 YEARS AND YEARS AGO WHO 2110 00:52:34,187 --> 00:52:35,989 DANGLED IN HIS SEAT AND 2111 00:52:35,989 --> 00:52:37,290 ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION 2112 00:52:37,290 --> 00:52:37,691 ABOUT HIM. 2113 00:52:37,691 --> 00:52:42,495 THE THING I WANTED TO ASK IS 2114 00:52:42,495 --> 00:52:43,496 WAS ABOUT THE DEMONSTRATION 2115 00:52:43,496 --> 00:52:45,298 OF THE QUEEN AND MICK JONES 2116 00:52:45,298 --> 00:52:46,099 AS THE CLASH. 2117 00:52:46,099 --> 00:52:47,200 EVERY TIME I HEARD THAT, I 2118 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,902 WAS ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING. 2119 00:52:48,902 --> 00:52:51,004 I CAN'T BELIEVE I GOT TO ASK 2120 00:52:51,004 --> 00:52:51,705 THAT QUESTION. 2121 00:52:51,705 --> 00:52:54,808 I FELT LIKE THE LUCKIEST GUY 2122 00:52:54,808 --> 00:53:01,314 TO ASK THAT QUESTION. 2123 00:53:01,314 --> 00:53:02,415 >> SO WHO ELSE DO YOU WANT 2124 00:53:02,415 --> 00:53:03,416 TO HAVE ON FROM A MEDIA 2125 00:53:03,416 --> 00:53:04,017 STANDPOINT? 2126 00:53:04,017 --> 00:53:05,919 >> WELL, WE HAVE A LOT OF 2127 00:53:05,919 --> 00:53:07,020 PEOPLE FROM AUSTIN. 2128 00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:08,421 JOHN OLIVER FROM "THE DAILY 2129 00:53:08,421 --> 00:53:09,322 SHOW" WHO HAS BEEN ON MOST 2130 00:53:09,322 --> 00:53:11,825 OF "THE DAILY SHOW" WHILE 2131 00:53:11,825 --> 00:53:13,326 JON STEWART HAS BEEN OFF 2132 00:53:13,326 --> 00:53:14,627 MAKING HIS MOVIE WILL BE 2133 00:53:14,627 --> 00:53:15,228 HERE IN SEPTEMBER. 2134 00:53:15,228 --> 00:53:17,230 WE HAVE BEEN WORKING LIKE 2135 00:53:17,230 --> 00:53:19,933 HECK TO GET JOHN OLIVER 2136 00:53:19,933 --> 00:53:20,433 HERE. 2137 00:53:20,433 --> 00:53:21,534 >> DOES HAVING THREE CAST 2138 00:53:21,534 --> 00:53:23,036 MEMBERS OF "THE DAILY SHOW" 2139 00:53:23,036 --> 00:53:24,037 HELP YOU? 2140 00:53:24,037 --> 00:53:25,138 >> YES, HOPEFULLY GO BACK 2141 00:53:25,138 --> 00:53:26,439 AND TELL HIM, HE IS COOL, 2142 00:53:26,439 --> 00:53:27,340 YES, DO THE SHOW. 2143 00:53:27,340 --> 00:53:29,042 WE STARTED OVER EVERY TIME 2144 00:53:29,042 --> 00:53:30,643 BUT IT WILL BE A LOT OF FUN. 2145 00:53:30,643 --> 00:53:31,244 >> YES. 2146 00:53:31,244 --> 00:53:33,146 >> IT HAS BEEN A GREAT RUN. 2147 00:53:33,146 --> 00:53:35,248 IN A DECADE OF EVAN SMITH 2148 00:53:35,248 --> 00:53:36,750 INTERVIEWS, THREE SEASONS OF 2149 00:53:36,750 --> 00:53:38,251 INTERVIEWS WITH EVAN SMITH. 2150 00:53:38,251 --> 00:53:38,651 >> IT HAS BEEN GREAT. 2151 00:53:38,651 --> 00:53:40,053 >> STILL ENJOYING IT? 2152 00:53:40,053 --> 00:53:43,556 >> I GET UP EVERY DAY 2153 00:53:43,556 --> 00:53:44,657 THINKING THAT PERSON IS A 2154 00:53:44,657 --> 00:53:45,759 GUEST, THAT PERSON IS A 2155 00:53:45,759 --> 00:53:47,160 GUEST, THAT PERSON IS A 2156 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:47,460 GUEST. 2157 00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:48,862 I NEVER GET BORED. 2158 00:53:48,862 --> 00:53:50,263 I LOVE WORKING FOR KLRU AND 2159 00:53:50,263 --> 00:53:51,664 HAPPY TO DO THIS. 2160 00:53:51,664 --> 00:53:52,866 >> WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE EVAN 2161 00:53:52,866 --> 00:53:55,368 SMITH AS HOST OF THIS SHOW. 2162 00:53:55,368 --> 00:53:56,870 >> WE HOPE YOU GIVE US A 2163 00:53:56,870 --> 00:54:00,774 CALL AT 1-866-910-KLRU AND 2164 00:54:00,774 --> 00:54:02,175 IF YOU DO, WE WILL MAKE SURE 2165 00:54:02,175 --> 00:54:04,177 YOU GET INVITED TO THE 2166 00:54:04,177 --> 00:54:05,478 "OVERHEARD" TAPINGS AND A 2167 00:54:05,478 --> 00:54:08,081 GREAT WAY FOR YOU TO COME IN 2168 00:54:08,081 --> 00:54:09,683 AND TO BE A PART OF THE 2169 00:54:09,683 --> 00:54:11,685 PRODUCTION THAT WE SO 2170 00:54:11,685 --> 00:54:14,087 TREASURE HERE ON KLRU. 2171 00:54:14,087 --> 00:54:16,389 CALL 1-866-910-KLRU AND GIVE 2172 00:54:16,389 --> 00:54:18,091 THE GIFT OF ANY AMOUNT TO 2173 00:54:18,091 --> 00:54:18,992 KEEP "OVERHEARD" STRONG AND 2174 00:54:18,992 --> 00:54:21,695 EVERYTHING THAT KLRU DOES 2175 00:54:21,695 --> 00:54:22,696 FOR THIS COMMUNITY STRONG 2176 00:54:22,696 --> 00:54:24,998 AND ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYONE. 2177 00:54:24,998 --> 00:54:26,499 THINK OF EVERYONE IN YOUR 2178 00:54:26,499 --> 00:54:28,335 LIVES WHO WATCHES KLRU AND 2179 00:54:28,335 --> 00:54:29,436 GIVE THEM A GIFT TONIGHT. 2180 00:54:29,436 --> 00:54:30,537 IF YOU GIVE THEM A KLRU 2181 00:54:30,537 --> 00:54:31,638 LEVEL, WE WILL GIVE ONE OF 2182 00:54:31,638 --> 00:54:33,340 THE PASSES TO THE TRIBUNE 2183 00:54:33,340 --> 00:54:36,343 FESTIVAL, SEPTEMBER 27-29 2184 00:54:36,343 --> 00:54:37,744 HERE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 2185 00:54:37,744 --> 00:54:40,046 CAMPUS FESTIVAL, OVER 150 2186 00:54:40,046 --> 00:54:40,947 GUEST SPEAKERS WILL BE HERE, 2187 00:54:40,947 --> 00:54:42,849 SO IT IS A GREAT TIME FOR 2188 00:54:42,849 --> 00:54:44,050 PEOPLE WHO LIKE PUBLIC 2189 00:54:44,050 --> 00:54:45,652 POLICY AND POLITICS AND WANT 2190 00:54:45,652 --> 00:54:46,953 TO ENJOY A GREAT WEEKEND. 2191 00:54:46,953 --> 00:54:48,755 WE ALSO HAVE 200-DOLLAR 2192 00:54:48,755 --> 00:54:50,757 LEVEL, THE BRAND NEW ROKU 3. 2193 00:54:50,757 --> 00:54:51,958 YOU CAN WATCH EVERY BRAND 2194 00:54:51,958 --> 00:54:53,159 NEW EPISODE OF "OVERHEARD" 2195 00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:54,260 ON YOUR TELEVISION AND 2196 00:54:54,260 --> 00:54:55,462 REMEMBER A GIFT OF ANY 2197 00:54:55,462 --> 00:54:58,064 AMOUNT MAKES A DIFFERENCE ON 2198 00:54:58,064 --> 00:54:59,866 KLRU SO GIVES US A CALL 2199 00:54:59,866 --> 00:55:00,467 RIGHT NOW. 2200 00:55:00,467 --> 00:55:01,568 >> THAT IS THE SHOW FOR 2201 00:55:01,568 --> 00:55:05,171 TONIGHT, THE BEST OF SEASON 2202 00:55:05,171 --> 00:55:07,774 3 WITH EVAN SMITH, 2203 00:55:07,774 --> 00:55:09,175 "OVERHEARD" AND WE HAD 2204 00:55:09,175 --> 00:55:10,877 WONDERFUL GUESTS AND A WHOLE 2205 00:55:10,877 --> 00:55:11,277 SEASON OF WONDERFUL 2206 00:55:11,277 --> 00:55:13,179 INTERVIEWS AND I THANK YOU 2207 00:55:13,179 --> 00:55:15,382 FOR TONIGHT AND NEXT SEASON 2208 00:55:15,382 --> 00:55:16,483 AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEASON 2209 00:55:16,483 --> 00:55:17,584 FOUR, WHICH WILL BE HERE 2210 00:55:17,584 --> 00:55:19,185 SOON, AND I WANT TO THANK 2211 00:55:19,185 --> 00:55:20,286 ALL OF YOU AS WELL. 2212 00:55:20,286 --> 00:55:21,588 THAT IS ALL OF YOU ON KLRU, 2213 00:55:21,588 --> 00:55:22,989 NOT JUST THE PLEDGE, BUT ALL 2214 00:55:22,989 --> 00:55:25,592 OF THIS OVER TIME, FOR THIS 2215 00:55:25,592 --> 00:55:27,494 STATION TO DO SOME OSCAR 2216 00:55:27,494 --> 00:55:29,129 BEST LOCAL PRODUCTIONS IN 2217 00:55:29,129 --> 00:55:30,230 PBS IN THIS COUNTRY. 2218 00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:31,531 THIS DOES NOT PAY FOR 2219 00:55:31,531 --> 00:55:31,831 ITSELF. 2220 00:55:31,831 --> 00:55:33,233 YOUR GIFTS, BIG OR SMALL, 2221 00:55:33,233 --> 00:55:33,733 MATTER. 2222 00:55:33,733 --> 00:55:35,735 IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR THE 2223 00:55:35,735 --> 00:55:36,836 STATION TO BE THE PUBLIC 2224 00:55:36,836 --> 00:55:37,637 SQUARE THAT AUSTIN AND 2225 00:55:37,637 --> 00:55:39,039 CENTRAL TEXAS TELLS US THAT 2226 00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:40,240 THEY NEED AND THEY WANT SO 2227 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:41,741 TO ALL OF YOU WHO GIVE 2228 00:55:41,741 --> 00:55:45,745 866-910-5578, PLEASE CALL 2229 00:55:45,745 --> 00:55:46,046 TODAY. 2230 00:55:46,046 --> 00:55:47,747 WE SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH 2231 00:55:47,747 --> 00:55:48,348 FOR YOUR SUPPORT. 2232 00:55:48,348 --> 00:55:49,749 WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING 2233 00:55:49,749 --> 00:55:54,054 YOU AT THE STUDIO AND THE 2234 00:55:54,054 --> 00:55:54,954 SCREEN FOR "OVERHEARD." 2235 00:55:54,954 --> 00:55:56,456 >> WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU 2236 00:55:56,456 --> 00:55:58,458 IN THE STUDIO, VISIT 2237 00:55:58,458 --> 00:56:01,861 KLRU.ORG/OVERHEARD TO FIND 2238 00:56:01,861 --> 00:56:05,465 INTERVIEWS, Q AND AS OF THE 2239 00:56:05,465 --> 00:56:06,866 GUESTS AND AN ARCHIVE OF 2240 00:56:06,866 --> 00:56:08,068 PAST EPISODES. 2241 00:56:08,068 --> 00:56:09,169 >> FUNDING FOR "OVERHEARD" 2242 00:56:09,169 --> 00:56:10,270 WITH EVAN SMITH IS PROVIDED 2243 00:56:10,270 --> 00:56:11,471 IN PART BY THE MATTSSON 2244 00:56:11,471 --> 00:56:13,173 MCHAIL FOUNDATION, IN 2245 00:56:13,173 --> 00:56:13,973 SUPPORT OF PUBLIC 2246 00:56:13,973 --> 00:56:14,574 TELEVISION. 2247 00:56:14,574 --> 00:56:16,576 ALSO, BY THE MFI FOUNDATION, 2248 00:56:16,576 --> 00:56:17,677 IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF 2249 00:56:17,677 --> 00:56:19,579 LIFE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 2250 00:56:19,579 --> 00:56:21,381 AND FROM THE TEXAS BOARD OF 2251 00:56:21,381 --> 00:56:23,483 LEGAL SPECIALIZATION, BOARD 2252 00:56:23,483 --> 00:56:24,784 CERTIFIED ATTORNEYS IN YOUR 2253 00:56:24,784 --> 00:56:28,321 COMMUNITY, EXPERIENCED, 2254 00:56:28,321 --> 00:56:29,522 RESPECTED AND TESTED. 2255 00:56:29,522 --> 00:56:31,725 ALSO, BY HILLCO PARTNERS, 2256 00:56:31,725 --> 00:56:33,326 TEXAS GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS 2257 00:56:33,326 --> 00:56:36,629 CONSULTANCY AND THE 2258 00:56:36,629 --> 00:56:38,531 CONSULTING UNIT, HILLCO 2259 00:56:38,531 --> 00:56:38,631 HEALTH. 2260 00:56:38,631 --> 00:56:41,434 AND BY THE ALICE KLEBERG 2261 00:56:41,434 --> 00:56:43,036 REYNOLDS FOUNDATION, AND 2262 00:56:43,036 --> 00:56:44,137 VIEWERS LIKE YOU. 2263 00:56:44,137 --> 00:56:48,137 THANK YOU.