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a deaf college president 
finds her place at Guilford,

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where silence is valued...

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and the unique and fading 
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People says we have an accent.

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Whether we do or not, 
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but I do talk a little bit 
different--heh, heh...heh!

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(narrator) 
You are about to see and hear

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an extraordinary story,

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one that begins with images 
from an autumn ritual

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on the gridiron, 
where players are introduced

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and busy conversation 
on the sidelines

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soon gives way 
to the rush of excitement

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as one side kicks off, 
the other receives,

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and play begins.

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[driving marching band 
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What would it be like

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if you couldn't hear 
any of this, only see it?

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Would it be as exciting 
without the sound of the crowd

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rising to its feet 
during a long touchdown run?

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Would the cheerleading 
be quite the same?

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[silence]

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This is how a football game 
sounds to Jane Fernandes,

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the ninth president

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of Greensboro's 
Guilford College

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and, at the time 
she assumed the position

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on July 1st, 2014, 
the only deaf president

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of an American college 
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(Fernandes) 
I was born deaf,

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and my mother 
also had been born deaf,

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and one of my brothers 
was born hard of hearing.

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So in my family, 
because my mother

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had learned how to speak 
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she taught me the same way 
that she had learned.

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And, um, primarily, 
that was a lot of immersion

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in phonics, phonetics, 
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making words 
that are intelligible.

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For example, 
I can say that, um,

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I probably still 
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lots of children's books, 
um, poetry,

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where my mother 
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phonics, um, 
above the words.

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And then I practiced those 
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It's a lot of repetition.

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I do remember, 
I had one great discovery

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that probably 
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in understanding 
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I understood the difference 
between b, m, and p

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when I had 
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So, ball, Paul, mall --

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well, Paul, 
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or maul as in maul, an attack, 
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Bawl-- cry, bawl-- cry, 
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all those words, um, 
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but, uh, one time, I was, um, 
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and I didn't know 
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and in my mind, 
I went, well, if it was b,

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it would be air coming out,

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and if it was m, 
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I analyzed what I'd learned, 
and then I figured it out.

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You know, it was--

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[gasping] 
it's ball!

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And then all the sudden,

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I knew 
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And then after that,

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I was more motivated 
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It was really 
a tremendous amount of work

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and a tremendous dedication 
on the part of my mother

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and father and my family 
to see it through.

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(narrator) 
Jane was off and running 
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that came to be filled 
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love of learning 
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even a season competing 
on her college fencing team.

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The fact that she did not 
go to deaf school

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led her down 
a path that made Jane--

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at least till 
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somewhat unusual.

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I'm--well, I'm an outlier 
in the deaf culture.

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I learned sign language 
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a master's degree 
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at the University of Iowa.

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And it should have been 
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from the time I was born,

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but I didn't have 
the opportunity to learn.

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(narrator) 
While studying in Iowa,

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Jane met members 
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and she learned sign language 
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(Fernandes) 
And that was 
a tremendous benefit to me.

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So I will say that, um...

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I learned more about myself 
from the Iowa deaf community

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than I had ever 
learned before.

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They taught me most about me 
as a deaf person.

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I gained, um, 
astronomically in confidence

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and an understanding 
of myself.

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And I would not be the Guilford 
College president today

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if I hadn't met 
the deaf people in Iowa

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and if they hadn't embraced me 
and taught me so much

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about American Sign Language 
and deaf culture.

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(narrator) 
So what we have here

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are two different 
intertwined stories:

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the story of Jane Fernandes,

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who overcame 
a natural adversity

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in building a successful 
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on the way to becoming

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the Guilford 
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and then there's the story 
of Guilford College itself,

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which was founded in 1837 
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an offshoot 
of the Church of England

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that arrived 
in the American colonies

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during the 17th century

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after splitting 
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They were marked by a desire 
for communion with Christ

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without benefit 
of ordained clergy

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and their consideration 
of men and women

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as spiritual equals

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in a time when that was 
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They were derided 
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because of their willingness 
to "tremble before the Lord."

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These days, 
Quakers have embraced the name

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and are known 
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dedication 
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and silence.

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Guilford College is no longer 
run by the Quakers,

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although it continues 
to be shaped by Quaker values:

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community, diversity, 
equality, excellence,

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integrity, justice, 
and stewardship.

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The college began 
as New Garden Boarding School,

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established 
to serve Quaker students

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in the Guilford County area.

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They came here, 
and they called it New Garden

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because of the lushness

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and the rolling hills 
that they found here.

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(narrator) 
The boarding school site

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was the homeplace 
of a leading abolitionist.

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There, a 300-year-old 
tulip poplar still stands,

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which in the years 
leading up to the Civil War

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became a landmark 
for enslaved people

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trying to find their way 
to freedom in the North.

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(man) 
And it was well known

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that if you were 
escaping for freedom,

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that you could find 
the Quaker family,

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and this community 
would be protective

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and not only 
give you a map

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to the next 
safe house

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but also provide you 
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provide you with medical, uh, 
assistance, uh,

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as you move 
toward freedom.

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(woman) 
Good morning, everybody.

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(group) 
Good morning.

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(woman) 
Happy Thursday, um.

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We have lots 
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have lots of great work 
behind us,

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but to get us 
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let's just have 
a moment of silence.

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(narrator) 
So it was with no little irony

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that thoughtful 
Jane Fernandes,

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who lives 
enshrouded by silence,

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should end up here 
in this Quaker community

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that begins each gathering 
with a moment of silence.

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In most of my experience, um,

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the silence in which I live 
is not viewed positively, um.

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I was taught all my life 
to, um, work against that,

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be as hearing as possible.

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And then, when I came here, 
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who were eager to move 
to a state of silence.

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So that had 
a deep resonance with me.

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And we, uh-- 
I enjoy very much, uh--

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not just enjoy but I respect

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and deeply appreciate 
the silence

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that we often have here 
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where we attempt 
to center down

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and listen 
to our deep inner--

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inner selves and get to, um,

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know what the truth is 
as a community.

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I appreciate that 
very much, yes.

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And I was doing homework 
outside the library, and--

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and one of the trustees 
was showing Jane the campus,

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and she came up to me 
and said,

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"This is Jane Fernandes, 
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to be our next president," 
and so we started talking,

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and we started to comment 
how her last name

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was similar to my middle name, 
which is Fernando,

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and her last name 
is Fernandes.

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I think it was 
an exciting moment

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for both of us.

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She was about to become 
the first woman president

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of Guilford College, 
and I was about to become

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the first Latino 
student body president.

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I think I could see 
that she belonged here.

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(narrator) 
José is one among 
many diverse students

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attracted to Guilford 
College's inclusive setting

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and variety of opportunities,

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the son 
of a Guatemalan immigrant

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who worked 
in the textile industry.

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But single mom Josie Williams

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discovered her opportunity 
right here close to home.

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(Williams) 
There was a point in my life

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I didn't have anywhere to stay,

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and going through that 
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I learned a lot.

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It was very challenging,

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but I wouldn't change it 
for the world.

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And when I came out 
of that experience,

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I just promised myself

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that if I was able 
to help anyone

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in that type of environment, 
that I would.

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And having that realization,

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I knew I had to get some 
educational background

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'cause it's just not--

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it was a little bit 
deeper than that.

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And so I started 
looking for schools

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that had some kind 
of social justice foundation,

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came across Guilford College,

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and I knew that was the school 
I was gonna go to.

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(narrator) 
Josie graduated 
in June of 2016

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and now works

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for the Greensboro 
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She perfectly encapsulates 
the combination

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of experience and opportunity

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offered through 
a Guilford College education.

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And right in the middle 
of it all is Jane Fernandes,

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a hands-on leader 
with a commitment

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to student achievement 
wherever she finds it,

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such as this display 
of student research

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and academic excellence 
on display in Hege Library.

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[piano leads rich, 
calm orchestration]

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(woman) 
Jane, although she may 
not hear, um, physically,

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very clearly yearns to be able 
to hear students,

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and it's provided us 
with a means

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of creative communication

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and expressing our voices

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in ways that are accessible 
to all communities.

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(narrator) 
During his interview with us,

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José talked of people

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willing to make a change 
in the world,

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those willing to 
"see the light in everybody,

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something good," 
he said,

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"that can bring 
a group of people together

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to achieve a common goal."

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That light, that treasure, 
that common purpose

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that so pervades 
Guilford College,

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is demonstrated throughout

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this Quaker-founded 
community...

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in scenes 
of academic achievement

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and around 
the Fernandes family table,

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where periods 
of quiet pleasure

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are bracketed 
by loving laughter

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and the joy 
of simply being together.

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In a place 
like Guilford College,

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new beginnings 
often spring to life unbidden

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as if ascending 
from the quiet,

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simple gifts from the school's 
Quaker forebearers.

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And the community... 
the world...

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is somehow changed 
for the better.

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♪ Morning has broken ♪

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(narrator) 
There's a new song in the air,

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which became evident

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during the planning 
for Jane's inauguration.

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(Fernandes) 
Someone had asked me,

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what song do you want 
or what's your favorite song?

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And I don't really have one, 
but for some reason,

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"Morning Has Broken" 
came to mind...

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♪

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and it seemed to fit 
Guilford College.

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So two students worked 
on a arrangement of the song,

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and when they were singing 
and playing, I looked--

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I was onstage-- 
I looked in the audience,

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and everybody 
was mesmerized--

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the whole place.

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So even though 
I couldn't hear anything--

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I don't know, 
I can't hear--

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I was-- 
I felt moved by that,

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that they had the power 
to hold the whole auditorium

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under a spell, 
and they did that.

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♪ Fall ♪

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♪ Sunlit from ♪

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It's hoi toide 
on the saind soide.

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Last night, the water far 
like moon shine; no feesh.

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What'dya suppose the matter 
is, Uncle Woods?

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Ha, ha, ha!

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clap

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Probably need somethin' 
to talk about, eh?

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Heh, heh...heh!

316
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[overlapping talking]

317
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(man) 
When I got an opportunity 
to come to North Carolina,

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it was sort of like dying 
and coming to dialect heaven.

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(woman) 
And these Northerners 
come down here,

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and we take 'em in.

321
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I mean, 
there's no state richer

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in terms of dialect diversity 
in the United States,

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really, because 
of the topography.

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Hoi tide? 
What is it?

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It's high-- 
it's hoi toide!

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[Appalachian accent] 
The only thing I knowd 
about the mountains

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was what I read in Foxfire,

328
00:14:25,931 --> 00:14:29,602
I'd think we's all jelly-makin' 
dulcimer pluckers up here.

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(Walt) 
So there's a lot 
of regional diversity

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from the historical 
in-migration.

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There's a lot 
of ethnic diversity

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with American Indian...

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[speaking American 
Indian language]

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(Walt) 
...with, uh, Latino, 
with African American.

335
00:14:43,849 --> 00:14:46,385
(man) 
Yeah, it's like, 
"Oh, hi, how you doin', man?"

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Until I get that vibe 
that you loose,

337
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then it's, 
"yeah, what's up?"

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(Walt) 
Then there are cases 
of isolation.

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(mountain man) 
He'd get out 
on a wooden box he made

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and pick 
an old banjer and sing.

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He was one of the first 
tourist attractions

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there was around here.

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00:15:00,599 --> 00:15:03,002
(Walt) 
There are just a lot 
of ecological things,

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social things, 
migratory aspects,

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and the language 
is this sort of primary,

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surface manifestation of that.

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You never had 
a squirrel?

348
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You ain't never eat 
high on the hog, son,

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'less you do that.

350
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(woman) 
What about turtles?

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(Walt) 
This is our linguistics lab

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with students who are working 
on various projects.

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These are 
our wonderful producers,

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Neal and Danica, 
who do the video productions.

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If you go into an area 
and people talk differently,

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it's gonna be 
a topic of commentary.

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[chiming piano leads 
droning resonance]

358
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And our job is 
to help people understand,

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why is it important 
to your culture?

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00:15:42,408 --> 00:15:45,144
Why is it important 
for a small community

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to hang onto a language 
as an index of that identity?

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[bright acoustic guitar leads]

363
00:15:50,549 --> 00:15:53,452
With an island like Ocracoke, 
one of the things

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that it's always been 
associated with is the speech.

365
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I went there years ago.

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We visit as friends.

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00:16:01,493 --> 00:16:03,462
We also reinterview people

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to see how the language 
changes in their lives.

369
00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:08,867
(man) 
Lo 
ok, this ain't no free ride.

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00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:10,903
If you gonna roll, 
you gonna work!

371
00:16:11,003 --> 00:16:13,405
(Walt) 
For example, I met Rex O'Neal.

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What accent is that?

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A lotta people 
will look.

374
00:16:16,375 --> 00:16:18,210
Is that a Irish, 
English accent?

375
00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:21,680
(Walt) 
He's a funny guy, and we 
just kind of hit it off.

376
00:16:21,780 --> 00:16:24,750
I told 'bout the time 
I lost me cap in Barney's Gap.

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00:16:24,850 --> 00:16:26,618
Whar do you think I found it?

378
00:16:26,719 --> 00:16:28,354
Teach's Hole, 
God bless me soul,

379
00:16:28,454 --> 00:16:30,422
but me brim 
was tore from around it.

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ha, ha...ha

381
00:16:31,790 --> 00:16:33,792
(Walt) 
Chester is 
from a longtime family

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that goes back to Portsmouth.

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00:16:35,961 --> 00:16:38,664
So they've been there 
several hundred years,

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00:16:38,764 --> 00:16:41,533
so he's invaluable 
in terms of reconstructing

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what Ocracoke was like.

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00:16:43,635 --> 00:16:47,272
(Chester) 
Four pewter plates, 
they dated in 1709.

387
00:16:47,373 --> 00:16:49,241
Couple people 
want to buy them.

388
00:16:49,341 --> 00:16:51,243
I said 
this is Ocracoke's history.

389
00:16:51,343 --> 00:16:52,678
You don't 
sell that.

390
00:16:52,778 --> 00:16:54,913
I ain't sellin' 
Ocracoke's history, uh-uh.

391
00:16:55,014 --> 00:16:58,283
(Walt) 
James Barrie Gaskill 
and his son Morty...

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[coastal accent] 
And then we'll pull 
the top out...

393
00:17:00,886 --> 00:17:02,855
(Walt) 
...represent the old-time 
fishing community.

394
00:17:02,955 --> 00:17:04,923
...and shake 
the crabs in there.

395
00:17:05,024 --> 00:17:07,226
People says 
we have an accent.

396
00:17:07,326 --> 00:17:11,196
Now, wh'er we do or not, 
I don't know, but, uh,

397
00:17:11,296 --> 00:17:15,034
I do talk a little bit 
different--heh, heh...heh!

398
00:17:15,134 --> 00:17:18,637
(Walt) 
People like James Barrie 
and Chester and Rex

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really represent 
the authentic dialect.

400
00:17:21,306 --> 00:17:23,075
(Rex) 
Some people say we talk funny.

401
00:17:23,175 --> 00:17:25,144
Well, you do too; 
I have a car.

402
00:17:25,244 --> 00:17:27,012
You got a cah, 
so what's the--

403
00:17:27,112 --> 00:17:28,380
[chuckling] 
you know!?

404
00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,482
See, we were isolated,

405
00:17:30,582 --> 00:17:33,185
and everybody 
talked that same--

406
00:17:33,285 --> 00:17:35,287
you oughta hear 
my grandmother.

407
00:17:35,387 --> 00:17:37,322
Heh, heh...heh!

408
00:17:37,423 --> 00:17:39,458
(Walt) 
One of the things 
about Ocracoke--

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00:17:39,558 --> 00:17:42,227
because you can't get on there 
simply by driving,

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00:17:42,327 --> 00:17:44,463
the way of life 
is slightly different.

411
00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:47,800
They became pretty dependent 
on the ways of the water.

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00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:49,401
As one person said,

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00:17:49,501 --> 00:17:51,603
"Yeah, we had fish 
for breakfast,

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00:17:51,703 --> 00:17:54,073
fish for lunch, 
and fish for dinner."

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00:17:54,173 --> 00:17:56,575
(Chester) 
In those days, 
everybody fished

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00:17:56,675 --> 00:17:59,778
or had somethin' to do 
with fishing,

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00:17:59,878 --> 00:18:02,714
had somethin' to do 
with the water.

418
00:18:02,815 --> 00:18:06,452
Everybody had a boat 
if not three or four.

419
00:18:06,552 --> 00:18:08,754
(Rex) 
My daddy was a fisherman 
and a carpenter.

420
00:18:08,854 --> 00:18:10,622
He would go fishing 
in the morning,

421
00:18:10,722 --> 00:18:12,691
do carpentry all day, 
and then come home

422
00:18:12,791 --> 00:18:14,560
in the evening 
and clean the fish

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00:18:14,660 --> 00:18:16,295
and sell 'em 
to the restaurants.

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00:18:16,395 --> 00:18:19,364
(Chester) 
There was a net strung 
in the yard all the time.

425
00:18:19,465 --> 00:18:21,233
Granddaddy would tell us, 
says, "Listen here.

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00:18:21,333 --> 00:18:23,635
You got to mend some holes 
in those nets."

427
00:18:23,735 --> 00:18:27,339
(James) 
See, we--when we grew up, 
they had ponies.

428
00:18:27,439 --> 00:18:29,174
[plucked guitar arrangement]

429
00:18:29,274 --> 00:18:31,243
We used to ride 'em,

430
00:18:31,343 --> 00:18:34,513
and they still 
had cattle on the island.

431
00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:37,049
Probably a hundred 
or 200 sheep

432
00:18:37,149 --> 00:18:39,918
used to, uh, roam the island.

433
00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:43,422
(Chester) 
Before the ferries, 
there was a mail boat,

434
00:18:43,522 --> 00:18:45,290
a freight boat 
comin' to the village.

435
00:18:45,390 --> 00:18:47,159
That was basically all, 
and my grandfather

436
00:18:47,259 --> 00:18:49,228
owned the mail boat, 
him and another guy.

437
00:18:49,328 --> 00:18:51,296
We'd leave 
around 6 in the morning

438
00:18:51,396 --> 00:18:53,665
and come back around 
4 o'clock in the evening.

439
00:18:53,765 --> 00:18:56,535
It carried mail and passengers 
back and forth to Atlantic--

440
00:18:56,635 --> 00:18:58,604
only transportation 
to and from the village

441
00:18:58,704 --> 00:19:01,507
other than the freight boat.

442
00:19:01,607 --> 00:19:03,942
(James) 
There's--Frazier Peele 
was the guy

443
00:19:04,042 --> 00:19:06,044
that started 
the Hatteras ferry,

444
00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:08,247
and it was a wooden ferry,

445
00:19:08,347 --> 00:19:10,782
and it only took 
about four cars.

446
00:19:10,883 --> 00:19:14,186
[chiming piano 
leads droning resonance]

447
00:19:14,286 --> 00:19:16,188
♪

448
00:19:16,288 --> 00:19:19,091
(Walt) 
What is very strong 
in the community,

449
00:19:19,191 --> 00:19:21,693
especially with the inundation 
of outsiders is,

450
00:19:21,793 --> 00:19:23,595
who is a native?

451
00:19:23,695 --> 00:19:27,733
Can you date your lineage 
back to the 1700s, 1800s?

452
00:19:27,833 --> 00:19:31,236
Because you're not authentic 
unless you can do that.

453
00:19:31,336 --> 00:19:34,072
(Chester) 
It don't even matter 
if you're born on Ocracoke.

454
00:19:34,173 --> 00:19:36,775
If you ain't got Ocracoke 
descendants in your family,

455
00:19:36,875 --> 00:19:38,577
you'll not be an O'coker.

456
00:19:38,677 --> 00:19:40,579
Proud to be a native?

457
00:19:40,679 --> 00:19:42,181
Well, I'm 
not even native

458
00:19:42,281 --> 00:19:44,683
because I was born in 
Beaufort, North Carolina,

459
00:19:44,783 --> 00:19:46,285
but I was brought back.

460
00:19:46,385 --> 00:19:49,254
I was brought back 
two or three days later.

461
00:19:49,354 --> 00:19:50,889
Ha, ha...ha!

462
00:19:50,989 --> 00:19:52,891
♪

463
00:19:52,991 --> 00:19:55,794
(Walt) 
What often happens 
in small island communities

464
00:19:55,894 --> 00:19:58,463
like Ocracoke 
or Harkers Island is,

465
00:19:58,564 --> 00:20:01,033
because there's such 
a tight community...

466
00:20:01,133 --> 00:20:03,702
What this here grass is, 
is cutting sage.

467
00:20:03,802 --> 00:20:05,404
(Walt) 
...they developed words...

468
00:20:05,504 --> 00:20:07,973
We call-- 
the local term for it,

469
00:20:08,073 --> 00:20:09,341
it's called bulrushes.

470
00:20:09,441 --> 00:20:10,709
(Walt) 
...and various terms.

471
00:20:10,809 --> 00:20:12,611
Cuttin' sage 
is what it is.

472
00:20:12,711 --> 00:20:15,981
(Walt) 
And so that builds into 
the profile of the dialect.

473
00:20:16,081 --> 00:20:18,250
(James) 
When the weather is,

474
00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:20,118
uh, beautiful calm,

475
00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:23,488
not windy like today, 
it's slick cam.

476
00:20:23,589 --> 00:20:25,791
That's what it was 
this morning, slick cam.

477
00:20:25,891 --> 00:20:28,594
It was slick cam this morning 
with a breath of ayre.

478
00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:31,163
You'd be building a boat, 
and if you didn't keep

479
00:20:31,263 --> 00:20:32,764
everything level 
on the bottom,

480
00:20:32,864 --> 00:20:35,334
another guy would walk up 
and say, "Look here now.

481
00:20:35,434 --> 00:20:37,069
You got that thing 
cattywampus."

482
00:20:37,169 --> 00:20:39,071
Not level-- 
I'm thinking of cattywampus,

483
00:20:39,171 --> 00:20:40,806
where something's 
just not right.

484
00:20:40,906 --> 00:20:42,641
I mean, 
she was womperjawed,

485
00:20:42,741 --> 00:20:44,343
or, uh, womperjaw.

486
00:20:44,443 --> 00:20:45,944
[chuckling] 
Yeah.

487
00:20:46,044 --> 00:20:47,312
"Across the beach,"

488
00:20:47,412 --> 00:20:49,414
you're goin' right 
o'er to the ocean.

489
00:20:49,514 --> 00:20:51,116
You go "up the beach,"

490
00:20:51,216 --> 00:20:53,151
you're goin' all 
the way to Manteo.

491
00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:54,419
Yeah.

492
00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:57,322
Catch the ferry, 
you go, uh, "up the beach."

493
00:20:57,422 --> 00:21:01,226
And, uh, goin' to 
Beaufort is "down sound."

494
00:21:03,295 --> 00:21:05,063
(Walt) 
Dingbats are those people

495
00:21:05,163 --> 00:21:07,633
from outside who have 
no sense at all,

496
00:21:07,733 --> 00:21:10,168
so that then 
became dingbatters.

497
00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:13,005
That's what we call 'em, 
dingbatters-- heh, heh...heh!

498
00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:15,107
(Morty) 
I use dingbatter a lot

499
00:21:15,207 --> 00:21:17,476
while I'm stuck 
behind a golf cart

500
00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:20,312
during the summer 
tryin' to get somewhere.

501
00:21:20,412 --> 00:21:22,381
(Walt) 
There's sort of 
a love/hate relationship

502
00:21:22,481 --> 00:21:23,949
with outsiders.

503
00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:26,285
They love the fact 
there's a tourist season.

504
00:21:26,385 --> 00:21:27,819
They serve outsiders.

505
00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:29,655
That's how they make 
their money.

506
00:21:29,755 --> 00:21:31,256
But they hate the fact

507
00:21:31,356 --> 00:21:32,991
that they take over 
the island.

508
00:21:33,091 --> 00:21:35,761
They can't walk on the streets 
they usually walk on.

509
00:21:35,861 --> 00:21:37,963
People are always 
asking them weird questions

510
00:21:38,063 --> 00:21:39,731
like, where's the lighthouse?

511
00:21:39,831 --> 00:21:42,100
You know, where's the ocean?

512
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,036
I've had people 
from Ocracoke often say,

513
00:21:44,136 --> 00:21:46,138
"Uhh, when are we 
gonna get a hurricane

514
00:21:46,238 --> 00:21:49,174
so we can get rid 
of all these dingbatters?"

515
00:21:49,274 --> 00:21:51,176
[woodwinds lead moody score]

516
00:21:51,276 --> 00:21:54,680
So it's considered 
to be a sign of weakness

517
00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:58,150
if a native leaves the island 
during a hurricane.

518
00:21:58,250 --> 00:22:01,353
(Rex) 
When everybody wants to leave, 
that's when we want to stay.

519
00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:04,356
We got to batten the hatches, 
and five or six families

520
00:22:04,456 --> 00:22:07,926
get together in one house 
and just ride the storm out.

521
00:22:08,026 --> 00:22:11,363
(Chester) 
And just sit there 
and listen to that ocean roar.

522
00:22:11,463 --> 00:22:14,533
It roars loud, real loud.

523
00:22:14,633 --> 00:22:18,203
(James) 
Every house then 
was low to the ground.

524
00:22:18,303 --> 00:22:23,008
If the house was gonna float 
off the blocks, you know,

525
00:22:23,108 --> 00:22:25,711
you could feel it liftin'.

526
00:22:25,811 --> 00:22:28,313
You had a hatchet 
in the house,

527
00:22:28,413 --> 00:22:30,449
and you chopped a hole in--

528
00:22:30,549 --> 00:22:34,653
to flood it 
to keep it on its pilings.

529
00:22:34,753 --> 00:22:37,656
(Rex) 
Course, you had the storms 
that would wash your pots

530
00:22:37,756 --> 00:22:40,258
and your trap 
all the way toward the inlet,

531
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,462
and you hadda go 
chase 'em down after a storm.

532
00:22:43,562 --> 00:22:45,731
Sometimes you'd lose 
a bunch of them.

533
00:22:45,831 --> 00:22:47,466
Take a big loss.

534
00:22:47,566 --> 00:22:49,134
[placid guitar and piano tune]

535
00:22:49,234 --> 00:22:51,002
(Walt) 
You know, 
I've been out fishing

536
00:22:51,103 --> 00:22:52,838
with some of these guys,

537
00:22:52,938 --> 00:22:55,440
and I am amazed 
at their knowledge.

538
00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:58,510
I--I-- 
I'm actually in awe.

539
00:22:58,610 --> 00:23:02,914
(James) 
We had a-- 
a good life on the water.

540
00:23:03,014 --> 00:23:07,886
Springtime, 
set 265, 300 crab pots out--

541
00:23:07,986 --> 00:23:09,154
flounder fishing

542
00:23:09,254 --> 00:23:11,723
with pound nets 
and stuff in the fall.

543
00:23:11,823 --> 00:23:13,425
I enjoyed that.

544
00:23:13,525 --> 00:23:15,927
(Rex) 
When you went 
and pulled them pots up,

545
00:23:16,027 --> 00:23:18,397
you had 25 or 30 crabs 
in there,

546
00:23:18,497 --> 00:23:21,066
comes up outta that clear-- 
crystal clear water.

547
00:23:21,166 --> 00:23:25,003
It just--just give you 
tingles all over your body.

548
00:23:25,103 --> 00:23:27,172
(Walt) 
This strand of person

549
00:23:27,272 --> 00:23:29,775
is a sort of 
disappearing family,

550
00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:32,411
a disappearing persona.

551
00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:37,249
So when you get a young person 
who's been to college

552
00:23:37,349 --> 00:23:41,086
who comes back and decides, 
I wanna fish for a living,

553
00:23:41,186 --> 00:23:43,088
that's really, today, 
quite unusual.

554
00:23:43,188 --> 00:23:47,359
(Morty) 
Yeah, I, uh, 
think I had my first boat

555
00:23:47,459 --> 00:23:50,061
when I was, like, ten.

556
00:23:50,162 --> 00:23:52,330
I've had 
my commercial fishing license

557
00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:54,332
since I was nine.

558
00:23:54,433 --> 00:23:59,004
I've been going with him 
probably since I could walk.

559
00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:03,074
(Walt) 
As a matter of fact, 
one of the reasons that Morty,

560
00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:05,677
who was going 
to study marine biology,

561
00:24:05,777 --> 00:24:08,580
[chuckling] 
left marine biology 
is because his professors

562
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,150
didn't know as much 
about the water as he did,

563
00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:15,687
and so he went into history 
rather than marine biology.

564
00:24:15,787 --> 00:24:17,489
[warm piano melody]

565
00:24:17,589 --> 00:24:20,692
So it's noteworthy 
how dedicated and committed

566
00:24:20,792 --> 00:24:23,628
some people are 
to sort of doing

567
00:24:23,728 --> 00:24:27,332
what they've done in the past 
and continuing that tradition.

568
00:24:27,432 --> 00:24:31,336
♪

569
00:24:31,436 --> 00:24:35,140
It is a very distinct 
culture still,

570
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,876
and one of the questions is,

571
00:24:37,976 --> 00:24:39,678
has it lost

572
00:24:39,778 --> 00:24:41,813
some of its uniqueness

573
00:24:41,913 --> 00:24:46,318
if the young kids don't speak 
the dialect anymore?

574
00:24:46,418 --> 00:24:48,487
[resonating chord 
concludes piece]

575
00:24:48,587 --> 00:24:50,589
For the last 24 years,

576
00:24:50,689 --> 00:24:53,191
I've spent my spring break 
on Ocracoke.

577
00:24:53,291 --> 00:24:55,360
[offscreen] 
If you could speak 
another language,

578
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:57,195
what language would it be?

579
00:24:57,295 --> 00:25:00,265
[voice-over] 
We developed a curriculum 
in which we teach the kids

580
00:25:00,365 --> 00:25:02,033
about their 
dialect heritage...

581
00:25:02,133 --> 00:25:03,835
[offscreen] 
Good-looking guy, huh?

582
00:25:03,935 --> 00:25:05,904
[voice-over] 
...about the dialects 
of North Carolina.

583
00:25:06,004 --> 00:25:07,772
(woman) 
Would you say that the brogue

584
00:25:07,873 --> 00:25:09,841
is a point of pride 
here on Ocracoke?

585
00:25:09,941 --> 00:25:11,443
(girl) 
I think so, yeah.

586
00:25:11,543 --> 00:25:14,946
(Walt, voice-over) 
So we have kids 
who are now in their 30s,

587
00:25:15,046 --> 00:25:17,749
and for 24 years, 
every kid in the school

588
00:25:17,849 --> 00:25:20,085
has gotten educated 
about their local dialect.

589
00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:22,153
(woman) 
So it's the same group 
of people.

590
00:25:22,254 --> 00:25:23,588
Some came to Ocracoke,

591
00:25:23,688 --> 00:25:25,857
and some went 
to the Appalachian Mountains,

592
00:25:25,957 --> 00:25:29,361
and they have changed a lot 
over time to be so different.

593
00:25:29,461 --> 00:25:32,030
So why do you think 
that might be?

594
00:25:32,130 --> 00:25:33,665
[resonant droning]

595
00:25:33,765 --> 00:25:35,767
[chiming piano leads]

596
00:25:35,867 --> 00:25:37,335
[acoustic guitar enters]

597
00:25:37,435 --> 00:25:39,538
(Walt) 
So I just learned a new word.

598
00:25:39,638 --> 00:25:41,840
Do you know what 
a "gospel bird" is, students?

599
00:25:41,940 --> 00:25:43,441
(man) 
Fried chicken every Sunday.

600
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,377
It's fried chicken 
every Sunday.

601
00:25:45,477 --> 00:25:49,414
For all of the students, 
for all these wonderful people

602
00:25:49,514 --> 00:25:53,652
who tolerated my ignorance-- 
the best friends I have!

603
00:25:53,752 --> 00:25:55,387
Thanks, guys!

604
00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:57,155
(man) 
Right back at you.

605
00:25:57,255 --> 00:25:59,824
(Walt) 
Don't forget to, uh, 
order gospel bird.

606
00:25:59,925 --> 00:26:02,027
[Walt and group laughing]

607
00:26:02,127 --> 00:26:04,329
♪

608
00:26:04,429 --> 00:26:06,565
(Walt) 
Even today, a young person

609
00:26:06,665 --> 00:26:09,801
who speaks the Ocracoke brogue 
is an oddity.

610
00:26:09,901 --> 00:26:13,572
It's not the norm, 
and so when you see that,

611
00:26:13,672 --> 00:26:16,274
then you can predict 
that probably

612
00:26:16,374 --> 00:26:19,244
in another generation, 
it will be gone.

613
00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:21,313
♪

614
00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:23,415
But we hope 
that they'll always

615
00:26:23,515 --> 00:26:25,183
embrace this unique dialect

616
00:26:25,283 --> 00:26:27,052
that was a part 
of their heritage.

617
00:26:27,152 --> 00:26:28,787
That's the way life is.

618
00:26:28,887 --> 00:26:30,922
Things change, 
and that's OK, uh,

619
00:26:31,022 --> 00:26:33,925
but it's nice 
also to reflect on the things

620
00:26:34,025 --> 00:26:35,794
that made us unique.

621
00:26:35,894 --> 00:26:37,796
♪

622
00:26:37,896 --> 00:26:40,065
(James) 
Time, uh, we get, uh,

623
00:26:40,165 --> 00:26:42,901
too many more years, 
it'll be gone.

624
00:26:44,903 --> 00:26:48,707
And may--maybe you'll 
have to find somewheres else.

625
00:26:48,807 --> 00:26:50,075
Ha, ha...ha!

626
00:26:50,175 --> 00:26:51,610
[group laughing]

627
00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:54,512
[guitar and piano chords fade]

628
00:26:58,416 --> 00:27:00,819
[chiming piano 
leads resonant droning]

629
00:27:00,919 --> 00:27:14,399
♪

630
00:27:14,499 --> 00:27:28,880
♪

631
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:34,452
♪

632
00:27:34,552 --> 00:27:36,454
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633
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634
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635
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636
00:27:51,469 --> 00:27:54,005
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gentle piano melody]

637
00:27:54,105 --> 00:27:57,509
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638
00:27:57,609 --> 00:27:59,110
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639
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640
00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:02,681
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641
00:28:02,781 --> 00:28:05,817
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642
00:28:05,917 --> 00:28:08,720
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643
00:28:08,820 --> 00:28:11,790
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644
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645
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646
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647
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648
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649
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650
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