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Welcome to Our State ,

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On this edition...

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Tony Award-winning designer 
William Ivey Long

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returns to his roots 
at The Lost Colony...

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[chanting and drumming]

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then, head to the woods

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with naturalist, herbalist, 
and storyteller Doug Elliott

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for a glimpse at his southern 
Appalachian lifestyle

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and his passion 
to connect with nature.

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[mellow guitar 
and piano arrangement]

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[dramatic arrangement]

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(narrator) 
September 11th, 2007,

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a catastrophic day

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for North Carolina's 
most famous outdoor drama--

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[dark piano 
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all the costumes 
for The Lost Colony

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reduced to ashes.

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I get a phone call

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from the producer 
at that point, and, uh--

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saying every piece 
of clothing,

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every piece of history, 
every reference book,

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every book, every armor, 
Andy Griffith's sword,

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all burned up, all gone, 
all the history of design,

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the history of design 
through all those decades

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was gone in a flash, 
and then AP called.

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Their question was,

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"Well, what's the most 
valuable thing you lost?"

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And I said, 
"Oh, Andy Griffith's sword!

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He wore it 
as Sir Walter Raleigh."

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We kept it, and we used it 
on special nights,

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and you know, 
it was irreplaceable

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because it's in all 
the photographs.

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He's kneeling, holding it, 
and everything.

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And, uh, the next morning, 
in the morning,

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[imitating Andy Griffith] 
"Billy? This is Andy.

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I've got the sword."

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(narrator) 
William Ivey Long 
knows every prop

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and stitch of clothing 
in The Lost Colony.

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He grew up there, 
in fact,

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but it wasn't 
his first theater experience.

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(Long) 
Well, once upon a time,

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when I was, I guess, 
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I was brought back

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from the hospital experience 
in Raleigh

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to the outdoor amphitheater 
of the Raleigh Little Theater

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stage left dressing room.

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It is still there 
to this day,

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and that became 
my first home--

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first home with walls 
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and I lived there 
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for three years-- 
my first three years--

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until my brother was expected, 
and then they thought,

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"Maybe we should have 
a proper home."

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But it was 
my first proper home,

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and you can remember 
back to three.

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I remember, you-- 
you would open the door

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outside of that-- 
you know, to go outside,

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and the first step you took 
was onto the stage.

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Then to the left 
would be the auditorium

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and all the seats, 
and to the right--

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much more important for me-- 
was the rose garden,

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because there was a fountain

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with a cherub 
holding a dolphin

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and all these roses, 
but mostly

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there was the fountain 
and the water,

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and I just wanted 
to go swimming all the time.

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And to grow up, 
literally, on a stage

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has set the tone 
for my entire life.

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My parents-- 
I'm named after my father,

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who was William Ivey Long, 
and my mother Mary Wood Long.

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They both 
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actually, my father 
from farm family,

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my mother from lumber family.

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They met at Chapel Hill.

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They both 
were Carolina PlayMakers,

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which was one of the sponsors 
of The Lost Colony.

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The Carolina PlayMakers 
were, uh, focused and--

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and concerned 
about folk drama.

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And of course, 
The Lost Colony

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is sort of 
the ultimate folk drama.

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It's the beginning 
of who we are,

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first colony, uh, 
established in North America

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by English people.

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My brother and I 
and my sister, uh,

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have all been 
in The Lost Colony.

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We had to wait 
until we were eight,

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and then, 
they deemed us old enough

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to be allowed to run around 
in the dark, barefooted,

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backstage 
with strange theater people,

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and then by 12, 
I was prop master.

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I was precocious.

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I'm a natural list maker.

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I'm a Virgo, 
born in August,

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so, of course, 
I'm organized and make lists,

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so, of course, 
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prop master 
was the natural next step.

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But by 18, 
I was tech director myself.

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Then I went off to school 
at Yale drama school,

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which is all about the plays-- 
"the play's the thing."

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I was a set designer.

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That's what I wanted to do.

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I was gonna be 
the stage designer

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of all time.

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And I've taken only 
one course in costume design

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in my entire life.

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Isn't that crazy?

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[swelling strings 
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(narrator) 
Like all aspiring 
theater people,

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William felt the pull 
of New York City.

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(Long) 
I was, at the beginning--

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I moved 
to the famous Chelsea Hotel,

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because I was, uh, 
just desperate to be--

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land in the middle of it, 
in the thick of New York.

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Well, boy, did I-- 
ha, ha, ha!

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The famous, 
infamous Chelsea Hotel--

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I lived there 
for my first five years

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on the front,

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next to the Chelsea Hotel 
sign, uh,

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and I was in room 411.

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What is 411?

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That's information.

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So I would get calls 
on the house phone

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from the most 
interesting voices

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that sound oddly familiar, 
and I had a phone book,

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and I would look up the number 
and tell it to 'em.

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So, I have never-- 
I've almost never, never,

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never gotten a job 
from an interview.

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I have only gotten a job 
from the person

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who sat to the left 
of me in school

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or to the right of me

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and with whom 
I did a lot of productions

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and saved the day with, 
"Oh, here's the perfect--"

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fill in the blank:

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shirt, shoe, 
blouse, pannier, um.

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"Oh, I understand how to solve 
that character dilemma.

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Let me think-- 
figure it out."

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So that's the only way 
I've ever gotten any jobs.

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So I never got a-- 
for three years,

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no one would hire me.

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Finally, 
I get a call.

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A friend of mine had a job 
as the set designer

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for Inspector General

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at the Circle in the Square, 
and the late, great--

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he just passed away-- 
Liviu Ciulei,

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Romanian director, 
was directing it.

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He said, "Oh, get me someone 
to do the costumes."

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So she said, 
"I've got a friend--"

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He said, "Fine, 
let's just start work."

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So, I didn't even interview.

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I just came 
with my portfolio, so proud.

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"Oh, look, 
maybe you get this job,"

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and he just started 
giving me notes.

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That's how I got 
my first Broadway show.

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Just like that-- 
"Oh, I've got a friend."

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(man) 
Yes, of course, 
he's fashionable,

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but that's not why 
you hire William

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to create your costumes.

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You hire him 
because he understands

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he's designing for character,

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for theme, for plot, 
and, of course, uh,

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he's sexy and fashionable.

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But it's the other stuff 
that comes first.

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How do you tell the story?

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And William 
is extremely helpful, uh, in--

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in carrying his weight 
in telling the story

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that the author intended.

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I--I start 
by reading the play

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and researching the period, 
and, you see--and, oh, it--

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it's high--high style; 
it's high style.

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It's rich people in Paris 
who go out the weekend

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to misbehave, 
and, of course,

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it all-- 
all hell breaks loose.

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And so this is 1959, 
uh, Balenciaga.

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These are--because 
they do dress for dinner,

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it's called 
Don't Dress for Dinner,

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but they do dress 
for dinner now.

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[sarcastically] 
Ha, ha, ha!

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Anyway, uh, look at these 
reference pictures.

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I always do 
this beforehand

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and surround myself 
with walls and walls

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of these research 
pictures, but John--

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the set designer 
came and, you see,

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his original set 
was very beige,

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but after looking 
at how well

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these colors work 
with everything, um,

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he brought in more 
of this burnt umber,

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this very light burnt umber,

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just to say, 
and I people them

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after the set designer's 
created the world.

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Who...are...you?

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Me?

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(man #2) 
It's her; you know who.

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I haven't the 
faintest idea who!

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Why do you 
think I was 
going bananas?

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Trying to 
keep warm?

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I didn't know 
what you 
were doing.

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You mean, 
it isn't her.

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Course it isn't her!

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Well, if it 
isn't her, 
who is it?

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That's what 
I'm trying 
to find out!

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[audience chuckling]

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Who are you?

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I'm his girlfriend.

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[audience laughing]

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(Long) 
And I do my first sketches

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after the research, 
like this.

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These are called thumbnails.

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Here are the men; 
here's the husband,

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the lover, 
and the husband of the cook.

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And I show them in order, 
and then I color them in,

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and you can actually--

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when you see 
these bigger pictures,

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you can see that 
I' 
ve really sort of solved

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most of the proportion 
an 
d color problems right here.

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And here are the ladies 
an 
d the same thing--

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here's the mistress, 
th 
e wife, and the cook.

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So then I do her big ball gown, 
you see, blue.

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I have this theory 
that ladies of the house

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either dress to stand out 
from their environs--

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environments 
or to blend into it, um.

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She stand out from it, 
'cause the blue stands out

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from all this beige.

254
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The best friend 
and lover of the wife--

255
00:09:56,028 --> 00:09:57,363
I match them up.

256
00:09:57,463 --> 00:09:58,965
You do things like this.

257
00:09:59,065 --> 00:10:00,833
I call it 
Kiss Me, Kate designing.

258
00:10:00,933 --> 00:10:02,902
They are matched 
because they are the ones

259
00:10:03,002 --> 00:10:04,637
having an affair 
at the beginning.

260
00:10:04,737 --> 00:10:06,372
This is not 
in the script.

261
00:10:06,472 --> 00:10:08,674
This is what I proffered 
to the production.

262
00:10:08,774 --> 00:10:11,844
Well, the day begins 
with the staff coming at 9.

263
00:10:11,944 --> 00:10:13,980
So I've prepared 
all the projects

264
00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,015
and their notes-- 
really annoying notes--

265
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on everyone's desk,

266
00:10:17,483 --> 00:10:19,118
and then 
we're off and running.

267
00:10:19,218 --> 00:10:22,355
And the phones start ringing, 
and all the projects call.

268
00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:24,156
"I need this; I need that."

269
00:10:24,256 --> 00:10:26,959
So there's a lot 
of technical support work

270
00:10:27,059 --> 00:10:29,495
that's done, first off, 
around the globe,

271
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whatever country 
Chicago is touring

272
00:10:31,597 --> 00:10:33,499
or something else 
our producers--

273
00:10:33,599 --> 00:10:35,601
Hairspray, they're still 
touring all around--

274
00:10:35,701 --> 00:10:40,072
and then the--the actual-- 
that day, uh, begins.

275
00:10:40,172 --> 00:10:41,807
And sometimes, 
people come for fittings.

276
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Sometimes, 
I go to fittings.

277
00:10:43,576 --> 00:10:45,745
Then, if it's rehearsing 
in the afternoon,

278
00:10:45,845 --> 00:10:48,314
the latest show, 
I go and have a wig fitting,

279
00:10:48,414 --> 00:10:50,883
or they want to show me 
a new dance number

280
00:10:50,983 --> 00:10:52,918
and why the shoes 
are not working,

281
00:10:53,019 --> 00:10:55,554
and I do that, and then 
the evening performance.

282
00:10:55,655 --> 00:10:57,590
I'm supposed to be 
at least two--

283
00:10:57,690 --> 00:10:59,925
at two shows 
in previews tonight.

284
00:11:00,026 --> 00:11:01,861
So I will go 
back and forth,

285
00:11:01,961 --> 00:11:03,929
and then I go for notes 
afterwards.

286
00:11:04,030 --> 00:11:06,699
So I'm done 
by about 1 o'clock--1 a.m.--

287
00:11:06,799 --> 00:11:08,834
and then I get up at 5.

288
00:11:08,934 --> 00:11:10,836
Now, that's not all the time.

289
00:11:10,936 --> 00:11:12,838
That's-- 
that's on a good day.

290
00:11:12,938 --> 00:11:15,074
I'm happy to be working.

291
00:11:15,174 --> 00:11:17,977
(narrator) 
Seaboard, North Carolina, 
up in Northampton County,

292
00:11:18,077 --> 00:11:21,313
is about as different 
from New York as you can get,

293
00:11:21,414 --> 00:11:23,182
but it's William's 
family home,

294
00:11:23,282 --> 00:11:25,051
and it tugs at him.

295
00:11:25,151 --> 00:11:27,319
As the town's fortunes 
have declined,

296
00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:30,756
William has stepped in, 
putting in a health clinic,

297
00:11:30,856 --> 00:11:32,291
buying the old school

298
00:11:32,391 --> 00:11:34,260
where his father 
learned playwriting...

299
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,229
(Long) 
We took out 
all the really rotted stuff

300
00:11:37,329 --> 00:11:39,765
so we could get 
at the asbestos.

301
00:11:39,865 --> 00:11:41,434
Now, it looks just insane.

302
00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:43,169
I love the way it looks.

303
00:11:43,269 --> 00:11:45,037
I actually love the way 
this looks--

304
00:11:45,137 --> 00:11:46,539
very Tennessee Williams.

305
00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:47,940
(narrator) 
...and partnering

306
00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,642
with North Carolina 
State University

307
00:11:49,742 --> 00:11:52,778
on a school 
of fashion and costume.

308
00:11:52,878 --> 00:11:56,415
And I've spent the last-- 
about 12 years, uh,

309
00:11:56,515 --> 00:12:00,252
trying to help the town 
become whole again.

310
00:12:00,352 --> 00:12:02,054
(narrator) 
A home in New York

311
00:12:02,154 --> 00:12:04,123
and a home in Seaboard 
should be enough

312
00:12:04,223 --> 00:12:05,725
for one person, right?

313
00:12:05,825 --> 00:12:08,794
Especially someone as busy 
as William Ivey Long.

314
00:12:08,894 --> 00:12:10,863
Then I just thought, 
OK, now I'm sailing.

315
00:12:10,963 --> 00:12:13,666
I've broken through the curse 
of no one will hire me,

316
00:12:13,766 --> 00:12:15,968
and look, I'm doing this one 
and this one.

317
00:12:16,068 --> 00:12:17,570
Oh, I'm not going back.

318
00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:19,872
You know, I won't go back 
to Lost Colony.

319
00:12:19,972 --> 00:12:22,208
I've got more things-- 
more important things to do,

320
00:12:22,308 --> 00:12:25,211
and I just thought, "Oh, 
I'm gonna be a New Yorker."

321
00:12:25,311 --> 00:12:27,246
Well, for 15 years I tried.

322
00:12:27,346 --> 00:12:29,682
So then I come back 
to the 50th anniversary.

323
00:12:29,782 --> 00:12:31,383
Good grief.

324
00:12:31,484 --> 00:12:34,019
I was blown away.

325
00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,857
Somehow it was the right time, 
the right place.

326
00:12:37,957 --> 00:12:41,160
I was at the right moment, 
and I thought--

327
00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:43,028
I had one 
of those lightbulbs,

328
00:12:43,129 --> 00:12:44,897
those big lightbulbs 
that go off,

329
00:12:44,997 --> 00:12:46,365
those Edison lightbulbs,

330
00:12:46,465 --> 00:12:48,601
and I realized 
that I had learned

331
00:12:48,701 --> 00:12:52,238
every single thing I knew 
down here.

332
00:12:52,338 --> 00:12:53,906
And I thought, "Well, I--

333
00:12:54,006 --> 00:12:55,908
I just have 
to work there again."

334
00:12:56,008 --> 00:12:57,810
[fire crackling]

335
00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:59,812
The phoenix quotient-- 
heh--

336
00:12:59,912 --> 00:13:02,414
out of the flames, uh--

337
00:13:02,515 --> 00:13:06,752
the phoenix bird morphed 
into historical accuracy.

338
00:13:06,852 --> 00:13:09,889
That was the phoenix 
because we had a chance

339
00:13:09,989 --> 00:13:13,425
for the very first time 
since 1937 to reimagine,

340
00:13:13,526 --> 00:13:17,129
all at the same time, 
the entire picture.

341
00:13:17,229 --> 00:13:19,965
I watched him 
as he was doing,

342
00:13:20,065 --> 00:13:22,968
off and on, 
the new Indian costumes.

343
00:13:23,068 --> 00:13:26,071
He went to the only source 
we have.

344
00:13:26,172 --> 00:13:29,842
Governor John White, 
who was in the 1584 expedition

345
00:13:29,942 --> 00:13:33,045
and the '85 
and the '87 expedition

346
00:13:33,145 --> 00:13:37,716
to Roanoke Island, 
had drawn the Native Indians,

347
00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:40,953
kings, maidens, 
and so forth,

348
00:13:41,053 --> 00:13:45,090
and William Ivey took 
those sketches of John White

349
00:13:45,191 --> 00:13:46,859
and interpreted them

350
00:13:46,959 --> 00:13:50,229
so that they 
could be used for years.

351
00:13:50,329 --> 00:13:54,133
We never have a costume 
that is made for one year.

352
00:13:54,233 --> 00:13:57,503
Ten years, at least, 
they've got to be worn,

353
00:13:57,603 --> 00:14:00,139
and that was a real, uh--

354
00:14:00,239 --> 00:14:03,275
a real change in the Colony 
when he did that.

355
00:14:03,375 --> 00:14:06,278
I am optimistic that 
The Lost Colony will survive.

356
00:14:06,378 --> 00:14:08,681
There is a story 
being told here,

357
00:14:08,781 --> 00:14:10,883
and it goes to the root--

358
00:14:10,983 --> 00:14:14,286
hokey, uh, 
corny, uh,

359
00:14:14,386 --> 00:14:15,821
grassroots--

360
00:14:15,921 --> 00:14:18,257
all those 
seemingly negative terms.

361
00:14:18,357 --> 00:14:19,525
Guess what?

362
00:14:19,625 --> 00:14:21,126
That's what hits the heart.

363
00:14:21,227 --> 00:14:22,862
Franklin Roosevelt 
came to the opening

364
00:14:22,962 --> 00:14:25,431
or came to Virginia Dare's 
birthday for a reason.

365
00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:27,566
He showed up and said, 
"This is important--

366
00:14:27,666 --> 00:14:28,934
story to tell."

367
00:14:29,034 --> 00:14:30,469
We're still doing it.

368
00:14:30,569 --> 00:14:32,538
It, uh-- 
it engages one's connection

369
00:14:32,638 --> 00:14:34,340
across the decades

370
00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,543
and the centuries 
to man striving to, you know,

371
00:14:37,643 --> 00:14:39,912
be the best he can be.

372
00:14:40,012 --> 00:14:41,647
Dreams come true.

373
00:14:41,747 --> 00:14:43,749
Dreams fail, 
but you still stick with it.

374
00:14:43,849 --> 00:14:45,618
I mean, 
these are great, great themes,

375
00:14:45,718 --> 00:14:47,219
and we're still doing it.

376
00:14:47,319 --> 00:14:49,355
Now more than ever, 
we need to believe

377
00:14:49,455 --> 00:14:51,090
we can conquer this.

378
00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:52,658
It's a wonderful story.

379
00:14:52,758 --> 00:14:55,327
It's a true story, 
and it's our story.

380
00:14:55,427 --> 00:14:57,830
[piano and string 
arrangement fades]

381
00:14:59,265 --> 00:15:01,133
[strings 
re 
sonating]

382
00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:03,135
♪

383
00:15:03,235 --> 00:15:05,237
[plucked guitar joins]

384
00:15:05,337 --> 00:15:07,239
♪

385
00:15:07,339 --> 00:15:09,575
(Elliott) 
I just was one 
of those nature kids.

386
00:15:09,675 --> 00:15:11,677
You know, I was born 
with this passion.

387
00:15:11,777 --> 00:15:14,246
♪

388
00:15:14,346 --> 00:15:16,148
You know, 
I'd gotten out of college.

389
00:15:16,248 --> 00:15:19,318
I was radical; 
I was excited about life--

390
00:15:19,418 --> 00:15:23,989
had a B.A. degree in art; 
I was totally unemployable.

391
00:15:24,089 --> 00:15:26,358
So I thought, 
what could I do?

392
00:15:26,458 --> 00:15:29,128
I wanted to explore 
up into Canada.

393
00:15:29,228 --> 00:15:31,430
We were campin' out, 
and I kept lookin' around.

394
00:15:31,530 --> 00:15:33,499
There were snow-capped 
mountains all around me,

395
00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:35,668
so I started climbin' 
up this mountain.

396
00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:38,304
It was like the earth 
and the sky were one.

397
00:15:38,404 --> 00:15:40,372
So I started 
just drawing pictures of that.

398
00:15:40,472 --> 00:15:42,541
It was-- 
it was awesome.

399
00:15:43,809 --> 00:15:45,778
I didn't want to spend 
the night there,

400
00:15:45,878 --> 00:15:47,212
so I went down.

401
00:15:47,313 --> 00:15:49,281
I got to the spruce 
and fir trees.

402
00:15:49,381 --> 00:15:51,016
All of a sudden-- 
[flapping noise]

403
00:15:51,116 --> 00:15:52,618
this big bird flew up.

404
00:15:52,718 --> 00:15:55,421
It was like a grouse 
but wasn't like any grouse

405
00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:56,855
I'd ever seen before.

406
00:15:56,956 --> 00:15:58,524
I pulled 
my sketchbook out.

407
00:15:58,624 --> 00:16:00,359
I started sketchin' 
this bird.

408
00:16:00,459 --> 00:16:02,828
♪

409
00:16:02,928 --> 00:16:05,531
Then that bird flew away, 
and I thought,

410
00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:08,000
holy cow, 
I'm a wildlife artist!

411
00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:09,601
Did National Geographic 
hire me?

412
00:16:09,702 --> 00:16:11,136
Well, not exactly.

413
00:16:11,236 --> 00:16:13,272
I climbed the mountain 
and started doin' it,

414
00:16:13,372 --> 00:16:16,108
and I realized right then, 
if I wanted to do something--

415
00:16:16,208 --> 00:16:18,711
was not wait for validation, 
not wait for a job,

416
00:16:18,811 --> 00:16:21,046
but just go for it 
with passion,

417
00:16:21,146 --> 00:16:24,183
with integrity, 
with humility, determination.

418
00:16:24,283 --> 00:16:26,485
And it was probably 
10 or 15 years later,

419
00:16:26,585 --> 00:16:28,354
I was talkin' 
to a Native American.

420
00:16:28,454 --> 00:16:30,923
He asked me if I'd ever seen 
a spruce grouse.

421
00:16:31,023 --> 00:16:33,225
He says, "Well, you know, 
we consider spruce grouse

422
00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:34,827
"to be a messenger bird.

423
00:16:34,927 --> 00:16:37,329
"When it comes around, 
you might pay attention

424
00:16:37,429 --> 00:16:39,531
because often it brings 
an important message."

425
00:16:39,631 --> 00:16:41,600
And I thought, 
yeah, I think I know

426
00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:43,369
what we're talkin' about.

427
00:16:43,469 --> 00:16:46,805
And you know, in some ways 
that kinda influenced my life.

428
00:16:46,905 --> 00:16:48,841
[wandering piano melody leads]

429
00:16:48,941 --> 00:16:52,444
♪

430
00:16:52,544 --> 00:16:54,580
I've been livin' 
in western North Carolina

431
00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,682
for probably 
the last 30 years.

432
00:16:56,782 --> 00:16:58,684
♪

433
00:16:58,784 --> 00:17:02,054
What attracted me here 
was the cultural integrity...

434
00:17:02,154 --> 00:17:03,889
♪

435
00:17:03,989 --> 00:17:05,391
basically, many people

436
00:17:05,491 --> 00:17:08,794
who have a deep relationship 
with the land.

437
00:17:08,894 --> 00:17:10,396
Some of my best teachers

438
00:17:10,496 --> 00:17:12,398
have been traditional 
Appalachian folks

439
00:17:12,498 --> 00:17:14,633
and Native Americans 
and just broadened

440
00:17:14,733 --> 00:17:17,636
whatever book learnin' 
I could ever get.

441
00:17:17,736 --> 00:17:21,874
♪

442
00:17:21,974 --> 00:17:24,243
And there is this story 
about the old-timers

443
00:17:24,343 --> 00:17:26,078
sittin' around the store,

444
00:17:26,178 --> 00:17:28,914
[chuckling] 
up on one of these 
back roads over here,

445
00:17:29,014 --> 00:17:31,417
sittin' round the store 
saying, "Yep, saw ole Zeke.

446
00:17:31,517 --> 00:17:33,652
"He was out there 
plowin' with his mule.

447
00:17:33,752 --> 00:17:35,687
"Yep, had his hippie 
with him"--hah, hah!

448
00:17:35,788 --> 00:17:37,756
I think I know 
who they're talkin' about...

449
00:17:37,856 --> 00:17:39,291
[laughing]

450
00:17:39,391 --> 00:17:41,160
'cause I certainly 
have spent my time

451
00:17:41,260 --> 00:17:42,561
following the footprints

452
00:17:42,661 --> 00:17:44,763
of wise old-timers, 
you know.

453
00:17:44,863 --> 00:17:47,466
♪

454
00:17:47,566 --> 00:17:50,536
Our drinkin' water--we only 
drink a gallon or two a day,

455
00:17:50,636 --> 00:17:52,838
and there's a little spring 
that's below the house,

456
00:17:52,938 --> 00:17:54,840
so we just 
go and fetch it.

457
00:17:54,940 --> 00:17:57,443
In some ways, that's sort of 
a pleasant routine.

458
00:17:57,543 --> 00:17:58,944
There you go.

459
00:17:59,044 --> 00:18:02,314
Fresh, mature spring water 
right out of the mountain.

460
00:18:02,414 --> 00:18:04,383
♪

461
00:18:04,483 --> 00:18:06,251
We have runnin' water 
to the house,

462
00:18:06,351 --> 00:18:07,719
but it's creek water.

463
00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:09,121
[waterfall hissing]

464
00:18:09,221 --> 00:18:12,024
Well, the creek does have 
a little waterfall.

465
00:18:12,124 --> 00:18:17,496
♪

466
00:18:17,596 --> 00:18:19,398
And there's a little 
catchment basin

467
00:18:19,498 --> 00:18:21,266
that catches the water.

468
00:18:21,366 --> 00:18:24,570
It runs through a couple 
of settling tanks.

469
00:18:24,670 --> 00:18:27,639
Then, we have a buried pipe 
all the way to the house.

470
00:18:27,739 --> 00:18:29,708
It's clean water, 
but we don't drink that

471
00:18:29,808 --> 00:18:32,511
'cause we don't know who waded 
through it the night before.

472
00:18:32,611 --> 00:18:34,947
What that does--that gives us 
incredible water pressure,

473
00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:38,016
so even during a drought, 
Yanna can water the garden

474
00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:40,119
and keep an irrigation 
system goin'.

475
00:18:41,386 --> 00:18:43,088
It's a nice little scene.

476
00:18:43,188 --> 00:18:46,725
Thank goodness my wife Yanna 
has a passion for gardening.

477
00:18:46,825 --> 00:18:49,027
(man) 
Looks like 
a pretty good pepper year.

478
00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:50,629
(Elliott) 
Yep, good peppers, man.

479
00:18:50,729 --> 00:18:52,131
They are so pretty.

480
00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:53,499
This is great.

481
00:18:53,599 --> 00:18:55,367
I'm tryin' to keep 
these tied up.

482
00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:58,437
So this is the time of year 
when everything is comin' in,

483
00:18:58,537 --> 00:19:00,739
so our job now 
is to celebrate the harvest.

484
00:19:00,839 --> 00:19:02,808
(man) 
Yeah, let's eat one fresh.

485
00:19:02,908 --> 00:19:06,478
(Elliott) 
So we eat 
as much fresh as we can.

486
00:19:06,578 --> 00:19:09,681
We try to can it; 
we try to dry it.

487
00:19:09,781 --> 00:19:12,484
We freeze it so we have enough 
to last all winter.

488
00:19:12,584 --> 00:19:14,253
Yanna's so good about that.

489
00:19:14,353 --> 00:19:17,723
She takes a tally of how much 
we eat during a normal year,

490
00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:20,292
and then, she'll usually 
preserve about 1 1/2 times

491
00:19:20,392 --> 00:19:23,295
just in case the next year 
doesn't produce real well.

492
00:19:23,395 --> 00:19:26,665
Plants have some of the same 
struggles that all of us have.

493
00:19:26,765 --> 00:19:28,867
How do you get along 
in this world,

494
00:19:28,967 --> 00:19:30,469
protect yourself 
from invasive things,

495
00:19:30,569 --> 00:19:31,904
protect yourself from pests?

496
00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:33,772
Often, the plants 
that are most nutritious

497
00:19:33,872 --> 00:19:36,542
have something to keep things 
from eating 'em.

498
00:19:37,809 --> 00:19:39,278
These are stingin' nettles.

499
00:19:39,378 --> 00:19:41,280
Reason they call them 
stinging nettles

500
00:19:41,380 --> 00:19:43,515
is 'cause they have 
little, tiny hairs.

501
00:19:43,615 --> 00:19:45,584
They actually inject you 
with formic acid.

502
00:19:45,684 --> 00:19:48,253
That's the same thing 
that an ant stings you with.

503
00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:50,622
Sometimes, the mountain people 
call it seven-minute itch

504
00:19:50,722 --> 00:19:53,192
'cause it kinda gets on ya 
for about seven minutes,

505
00:19:53,292 --> 00:19:55,761
but it's usually not much 
of a problem after that.

506
00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:57,196
My sweet wife Yanna,

507
00:19:57,296 --> 00:19:59,498
she likes to use it 
as a nerve tonic.

508
00:19:59,598 --> 00:20:01,366
If she's feeling 
a little carpal syndrome,

509
00:20:01,466 --> 00:20:03,735
she'll actually apply 
some of that to her hands.

510
00:20:03,835 --> 00:20:05,904
So even though 
this plant will sting you

511
00:20:06,004 --> 00:20:08,540
when it's fresh and live, 
if you pick it carefully,

512
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,375
then you can take it in...

513
00:20:10,475 --> 00:20:11,643
[clinking]

514
00:20:11,743 --> 00:20:13,579
drop it into boiling water,

515
00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:16,515
let it simmer for just 
a couple of minutes,

516
00:20:16,615 --> 00:20:19,618
and it'll turn it 
into a delicious vegetable.

517
00:20:19,718 --> 00:20:21,486
It's one of the most 
nutritious plants

518
00:20:21,587 --> 00:20:23,355
that we have 
here in the garden.

519
00:20:23,455 --> 00:20:24,957
They're good!

520
00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:27,359
[resonating tones 
support piano]

521
00:20:27,459 --> 00:20:29,528
♪

522
00:20:29,628 --> 00:20:31,863
We're all part 
of this miracle of creation,

523
00:20:31,964 --> 00:20:34,733
and sometimes, 
I think that my desire

524
00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:36,702
to know 
about all these creatures

525
00:20:36,802 --> 00:20:38,704
is part of wanting 
to know myself.

526
00:20:38,804 --> 00:20:40,706
♪

527
00:20:40,806 --> 00:20:43,375
You know, the favorite line 
my dad used to say,

528
00:20:43,475 --> 00:20:45,544
"That boy knows 
what's under every rock

529
00:20:45,644 --> 00:20:46,979
between here and town."

530
00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:48,780
And I still turn over rocks,

531
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,882
and you know, I'm still 
lookin' for critters,

532
00:20:50,983 --> 00:20:52,884
but I'm also lookin' 
for the stories

533
00:20:52,985 --> 00:20:54,453
that connect those critters,

534
00:20:54,553 --> 00:20:58,690
the stories that connect 
those critters to us.

535
00:20:58,790 --> 00:21:01,026
And so I guess 
part of my passion

536
00:21:01,126 --> 00:21:04,763
has been trying to find 
more points of contact.

537
00:21:04,863 --> 00:21:12,170
♪

538
00:21:12,271 --> 00:21:14,706
Look what's here 
on this little persimmon tree.

539
00:21:14,806 --> 00:21:16,975
This is a hickory-horned 
devil caterpillar.

540
00:21:17,075 --> 00:21:19,044
This is one of our 
most amazing caterpillars,

541
00:21:19,144 --> 00:21:21,346
and look at the horns 
on this little devil.

542
00:21:21,446 --> 00:21:23,215
They're absolutely harmless, 
but they are probably

543
00:21:23,315 --> 00:21:24,983
one of our most 
extraordinary caterpillars,

544
00:21:25,083 --> 00:21:27,019
and this one's 
only about half-grown.

545
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,453
When they're full grown,

546
00:21:28,553 --> 00:21:30,055
they're almost 
six inches long.

547
00:21:30,155 --> 00:21:31,423
What a critter!

548
00:21:31,523 --> 00:21:33,992
It'll turn 
into a great, big moth.

549
00:21:34,092 --> 00:21:35,727
My friend Scott Geouge 
always says,

550
00:21:35,827 --> 00:21:37,329
everything's 
got its weak point,

551
00:21:37,429 --> 00:21:38,797
its vulnerable points.

552
00:21:38,897 --> 00:21:41,733
You grab the crab from behind; 
you can hold it safely.

553
00:21:41,833 --> 00:21:43,602
You hold the rattlesnake 
behind its head.

554
00:21:43,702 --> 00:21:45,203
You can hold it safely.

555
00:21:45,304 --> 00:21:46,938
Hold a possum by the tail.

556
00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:48,607
You can hold it safely.

557
00:21:48,707 --> 00:21:50,108
[Jew's harp twanging]

558
00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:51,943
♪

559
00:21:52,044 --> 00:21:53,712
Yeah, look at this rascal.

560
00:21:53,812 --> 00:21:55,147
Ain't she 
a beauty?!

561
00:21:55,247 --> 00:21:56,615
Let's see.

562
00:21:56,715 --> 00:21:58,050
Yep, she-- 
heh, heh!

563
00:21:58,150 --> 00:22:00,052
Ya know how I can tell?

564
00:22:00,152 --> 00:22:02,421
Look at that, 
she's got a pouch.

565
00:22:02,521 --> 00:22:04,423
Our only marsupial 
in North America

566
00:22:04,523 --> 00:22:06,591
has a pouch like a kangaroo.

567
00:22:06,692 --> 00:22:08,026
And look at this,

568
00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:09,828
very few creatures 
in the world

569
00:22:09,928 --> 00:22:12,764
that have opposable thumbs, 
humans and possums.

570
00:22:12,864 --> 00:22:14,132
You know, humans--

571
00:22:14,232 --> 00:22:15,734
we've used 
our opposable thumbs

572
00:22:15,834 --> 00:22:17,369
to build great civilizations.

573
00:22:17,469 --> 00:22:20,138
Possums, they've been 
usin' theirs just to hold on,

574
00:22:20,238 --> 00:22:22,708
and they have been holdin' on 
for a long time.

575
00:22:22,808 --> 00:22:24,576
The first 
little mammals 
that showed up

576
00:22:24,676 --> 00:22:26,311
after the age 
of dinosaurs

577
00:22:26,411 --> 00:22:28,647
were almost identical 
to our modern possums.

578
00:22:28,747 --> 00:22:30,515
We maybe let you 
get back home.

579
00:22:30,615 --> 00:22:32,384
Go on, 
take care there, little gal.

580
00:22:32,484 --> 00:22:34,119
You know, 
sometimes people say, "Oh,

581
00:22:34,219 --> 00:22:35,987
I can't stand 
those old possums."

582
00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:38,123
Some scientists did 
some stomach analysis studies,

583
00:22:38,223 --> 00:22:40,826
and they found out 
that in some areas,

584
00:22:40,926 --> 00:22:42,994
half of their diet 
is copperheads.

585
00:22:43,095 --> 00:22:45,163
I mean, 
you like copperheads?

586
00:22:45,263 --> 00:22:47,866
♪

587
00:22:47,966 --> 00:22:51,403
Oh...look at this beauty!

588
00:22:51,503 --> 00:22:53,939
Oh my!

589
00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:56,541
This is a black rat snake.

590
00:22:56,641 --> 00:23:00,045
Sometimes, people in Carolina, 
they call these king snakes.

591
00:23:00,145 --> 00:23:02,080
These are kind 
of the arboreal snakes.

592
00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:03,882
They really 
like to climb around.

593
00:23:03,982 --> 00:23:05,617
They're the ones 
that you'll find

594
00:23:05,717 --> 00:23:07,953
sometimes in your attic 
or in your barn.

595
00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:11,890
They call them rat snakes 
'cause they love rats.

596
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:14,192
Oh, what a beauty!

597
00:23:15,460 --> 00:23:17,396
You know people say, 
snakes are aggressive.

598
00:23:17,496 --> 00:23:18,930
They're very rarely 
aggressive.

599
00:23:19,030 --> 00:23:20,499
They're defensive sometimes.

600
00:23:20,599 --> 00:23:22,100
Sometimes, 
they get really scared,

601
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,403
and they'll bite at you, and--

602
00:23:24,503 --> 00:23:28,173
He'll get his freedom here 
soon enough--hmm, hmm.

603
00:23:28,273 --> 00:23:31,576
All right, now we're gonna do 
the old snake-charmer trick.

604
00:23:31,676 --> 00:23:33,578
[wood flute leads]

605
00:23:33,678 --> 00:23:38,583
♪

606
00:23:38,683 --> 00:23:39,951
Isn't that 
in 
credible,

607
00:23:40,051 --> 00:23:42,020
the muscular 
control of a 
beast like that.

608
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:43,388
Look at that!

609
00:23:43,488 --> 00:23:46,258
Look at how 
much of its body 
is straight up.

610
00:23:46,358 --> 00:23:48,927
♪

611
00:23:49,027 --> 00:23:50,662
Looks like 
it's been well fed,

612
00:23:50,762 --> 00:23:52,397
which is, 
of course, good news

613
00:23:52,497 --> 00:23:55,066
'cause with all the voles 
and things in our garden,

614
00:23:55,167 --> 00:23:56,902
we are so glad to have

615
00:23:57,002 --> 00:23:59,638
a few of these 
big, fat snakes around.

616
00:23:59,738 --> 00:24:03,608
♪

617
00:24:03,708 --> 00:24:05,444
[piano leads]

618
00:24:05,544 --> 00:24:08,380
You know, some say, this is 
like this little Eden here

619
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,582
with all your gardens 
and ponds and swamps,

620
00:24:10,682 --> 00:24:12,584
things like that.

621
00:24:12,684 --> 00:24:16,388
You have to realize 
that Eden is everywhere

622
00:24:16,488 --> 00:24:18,490
if we can 
just sorta tweak our eye,

623
00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:20,492
open our heart, 
and realize it,

624
00:24:20,592 --> 00:24:22,461
even if it's 
a suburban backyard.

625
00:24:22,561 --> 00:24:25,163
Nature just wants to be 
a part of our lives

626
00:24:25,263 --> 00:24:27,566
since we are a part of nature.

627
00:24:27,666 --> 00:24:34,239
♪

628
00:24:34,339 --> 00:24:36,041
It's such an honor 
that people

629
00:24:36,141 --> 00:24:38,143
actually wanna hear 
what I have to say,

630
00:24:38,243 --> 00:24:39,878
and I'm just so lucky

631
00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:42,781
that people think 
that's of value.

632
00:24:42,881 --> 00:24:44,649
Well, you know, 
we all tell stories.

633
00:24:44,749 --> 00:24:46,718
When I ask you 
what you did today,

634
00:24:46,818 --> 00:24:48,887
you're basically composing 
a narrative.

635
00:24:48,987 --> 00:24:52,057
That's how we make sense 
of our lives.

636
00:24:52,157 --> 00:24:54,459
There was the story 
about the African tribe

637
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:56,995
and some missionaries 
brought 'em over a TV.

638
00:24:57,095 --> 00:24:58,763
For the first couple of weeks,

639
00:24:58,864 --> 00:25:00,565
the whole village 
all gathered together,

640
00:25:00,665 --> 00:25:03,735
and they just watched that TV, 
and they watched that thing.

641
00:25:03,835 --> 00:25:06,137
And then, 
after about a couple of weeks,

642
00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:09,074
they started going back 
to the village storyteller.

643
00:25:09,174 --> 00:25:10,842
This is a Taoist story--

644
00:25:10,942 --> 00:25:14,279
story from Asia about the guy 
that was chased by the tiger,

645
00:25:14,379 --> 00:25:16,281
and they asked him, 
they said,

646
00:25:16,381 --> 00:25:19,718
doesn't a TV know more stories 
than your storyteller?

647
00:25:19,818 --> 00:25:24,122
And he said, "Yeah, it does, 
but the storyteller knows us."

648
00:25:24,222 --> 00:25:26,191
He was runnin' 
for all he was worth.

649
00:25:26,291 --> 00:25:28,059
There was no tree 
he could climb--

650
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:29,794
either the tiger 
or the cliff.

651
00:25:29,895 --> 00:25:31,229
He chose the cliff.

652
00:25:31,329 --> 00:25:33,298
He jumped off, 
and he caught that vine.

653
00:25:33,398 --> 00:25:35,033
He was hangin' 
on that vine.

654
00:25:35,133 --> 00:25:37,102
He looked up, 
and he saw that tiger

655
00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:39,671
lookin' over the edge 
of that cliff, and he thought,

656
00:25:39,771 --> 00:25:41,406
Ohh, I'm safe from that tiger.

657
00:25:41,506 --> 00:25:43,708
All I have to do 
is lower myself down.

658
00:25:43,808 --> 00:25:45,143
He looked 
down below.

659
00:25:45,243 --> 00:25:47,746
There was another tiger 
pacing back and forth.

660
00:25:47,846 --> 00:25:50,048
He was tryin' 
to figure out what to do.

661
00:25:50,148 --> 00:25:52,617
He noticed the vine 
was just up outta his reach

662
00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:54,352
stretched tight 
over a little ledge.

663
00:25:54,452 --> 00:25:56,655
Up on that ledge, 
just up outta his reach,

664
00:25:56,755 --> 00:25:58,123
he saw some movement.

665
00:25:58,223 --> 00:26:00,392
There was a little mouse, 
a light-colored mouse.

666
00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:02,527
That mouse 
was as light as the day.

667
00:26:02,627 --> 00:26:04,129
That little mouse came up

668
00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:05,864
and started nibblin' 
on that vine.

669
00:26:05,964 --> 00:26:08,934
That little mouse went in, 
and another mouse came out,

670
00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:11,102
a little mouse, 
dark as the night.

671
00:26:11,202 --> 00:26:12,537
That mouse 
started chewin'.

672
00:26:12,637 --> 00:26:14,506
That vine 
kept gettin' thinner.

673
00:26:14,606 --> 00:26:16,241
The little light mouse 
came out;

674
00:26:16,341 --> 00:26:17,676
dark mouse went in.

675
00:26:17,776 --> 00:26:20,645
They kept taking turns, 
the light and the dark.

676
00:26:20,745 --> 00:26:22,514
The vine kept getting 
thinner and thinner.

677
00:26:22,614 --> 00:26:24,816
He was trying to think, 
what do I do?

678
00:26:24,916 --> 00:26:26,885
He looked, 
and growing out of that cliff

679
00:26:26,985 --> 00:26:28,787
was a strawberry, 
a perfectly ripe strawberry.

680
00:26:28,887 --> 00:26:30,155
He reached out.

681
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:31,856
He grabbed that strawberry.

682
00:26:31,957 --> 00:26:35,560
He ate that strawberry, 
and he enjoyed that strawberry,

683
00:26:35,660 --> 00:26:37,896
and he gave thanks.

684
00:26:37,996 --> 00:26:41,266
And the Taoists say 
that's the end of that story,

685
00:26:41,366 --> 00:26:44,035
and that story-- 
that story's about our life...

686
00:26:44,135 --> 00:26:46,037
♪

687
00:26:46,137 --> 00:26:49,007
about how we're just hangin' 
by that little thread of life,

688
00:26:49,107 --> 00:26:51,076
and the main thing 
we can be doin'

689
00:26:51,176 --> 00:26:52,677
while that thread 
gets thinner

690
00:26:52,777 --> 00:26:54,746
as the day and the night pass

691
00:26:54,846 --> 00:26:57,315
is enjoy our strawberries 
and give thanks.

692
00:26:57,415 --> 00:27:06,057
♪

693
00:27:07,592 --> 00:27:12,497
♪

694
00:27:12,597 --> 00:27:15,033
[piano and wood flute enter]

695
00:27:15,133 --> 00:27:23,575
♪

696
00:27:23,675 --> 00:27:35,587
♪

697
00:27:35,687 --> 00:27:37,589
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698
00:27:37,689 --> 00:27:40,625
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699
00:27:40,725 --> 00:27:43,528
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700
00:27:43,628 --> 00:27:47,365
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701
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:54,539
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gentle piano melody]

702
00:27:54,639 --> 00:27:58,143
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703
00:27:58,243 --> 00:27:59,944
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704
00:28:00,045 --> 00:28:02,013
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705
00:28:02,113 --> 00:28:03,682
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706
00:28:03,782 --> 00:28:06,751
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707
00:28:06,851 --> 00:28:09,654
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708
00:28:09,754 --> 00:28:12,724
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709
00:28:12,824 --> 00:28:14,626
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710
00:28:14,726 --> 00:28:16,528
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711
00:28:16,628 --> 00:28:18,930
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712
00:28:19,030 --> 00:28:20,832
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713
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,102
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714
00:28:24,202 --> 00:28:25,603
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715
00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:27,205
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716
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