WEBVTT 00:00.934 --> 00:03.336 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% [sparse piano chords] 00:03.436 --> 00:05.905 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 00:06.006 --> 00:08.208 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% [oboe leads calm orchestration] 00:08.308 --> 00:10.577 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% [scraping noise] 00:10.677 --> 00:22.489 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 00:22.589 --> 00:24.090 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% (man) People always say, oh, 00:24.190 --> 00:27.894 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% it must be just like Christmas opening a kiln... 00:27.994 --> 00:29.963 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 00:30.063 --> 00:32.866 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% but it's not, really. 00:32.966 --> 00:35.769 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% There's a lot more anxiety 00:35.869 --> 00:38.004 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% because there's so much work that-- 00:38.104 --> 00:41.207 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% that goes into each firing, each load of pots. 00:41.307 --> 00:44.044 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 00:44.144 --> 00:47.614 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% It's a really private, personal time 00:47.714 --> 00:49.649 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% and can be really wonderful, 00:49.749 --> 00:53.820 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% but it can also be really pretty difficult. 00:53.920 --> 00:57.190 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% And I can't even really objectively see the pots 00:57.290 --> 01:00.593 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% for...about two weeks. 01:00.693 --> 01:04.697 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 01:04.798 --> 01:08.802 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% Once you can let your expectations melt away... 01:08.902 --> 01:10.804 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 01:10.904 --> 01:15.241 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% then you can actually look at the pot and see it. 01:15.341 --> 01:16.609 align:left position:37.5%,start line:65% size:52.5% They, um-- 01:16.709 --> 01:19.712 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% they really reveal themselves very slowly to you. 01:19.813 --> 01:30.657 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 01:30.757 --> 01:34.494 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% The cold never bothers me... 01:34.594 --> 01:37.230 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% 'cause I-- I grew up in New England. 01:37.330 --> 01:40.333 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% I like the cold; I like a real winter. 01:40.433 --> 01:42.735 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% [soft piano melody resonates] 01:42.836 --> 01:45.004 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 01:45.105 --> 01:48.074 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% There are days, certainly, when I wake up out here 01:48.174 --> 01:50.810 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% and I wonder and I question, 01:50.910 --> 01:53.613 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% what motivated me to be out here? 01:53.713 --> 01:56.015 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% [strings support piano] 01:56.116 --> 01:58.418 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 01:58.518 --> 02:01.754 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% And I think that maybe there was a-- 02:01.855 --> 02:03.356 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% a small percentage 02:03.456 --> 02:05.925 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% that was running away from something. 02:06.025 --> 02:10.430 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 02:10.530 --> 02:12.465 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% And there's days when, very clearly, 02:12.565 --> 02:16.436 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% I feel like I needed to put this space here. 02:16.536 --> 02:18.738 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 02:18.838 --> 02:20.206 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% [quick whistled note] 02:20.306 --> 02:22.308 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% [animal footfalls] 02:25.645 --> 02:27.547 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% Came down to North Carolina 02:27.647 --> 02:30.283 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% to go to college at Guilford in Greensboro, 02:30.383 --> 02:33.086 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% talked my way into a class with Charlie Tefft, 02:33.186 --> 02:35.088 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% who runs the ceramic program. 02:35.188 --> 02:37.724 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% It was there that my eyes were really opened 02:37.824 --> 02:42.195 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% to this huge world of clay that exists in North Carolina. 02:42.295 --> 02:46.199 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% [oboe leads wandering piano] 02:46.299 --> 02:48.635 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% There was a potter named Matt Jones, 02:48.735 --> 02:50.937 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% and I started helping Matt fire. 02:51.037 --> 02:53.072 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% The first time I went into his workshop, 02:53.173 --> 02:56.709 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% there was a smell about it, and it has a dirt floor, 02:56.809 --> 02:58.378 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% and it was very dark, 02:58.478 --> 03:00.747 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% and something felt really right about it. 03:00.847 --> 03:02.048 align:left position:37.5%,start line:65% size:52.5% [sloshing] 03:02.148 --> 03:04.817 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% I felt, and I could really put my head down 03:04.918 --> 03:06.953 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% and learn something. 03:07.053 --> 03:08.821 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% The apprenticeship at Matt Jones's 03:08.922 --> 03:10.957 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% was structured in the same way 03:11.057 --> 03:12.825 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% that his apprenticeships were structured. 03:12.926 --> 03:14.694 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% I would do chores like chop wood, 03:14.794 --> 03:16.296 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% mix glazes, mix clay. 03:16.396 --> 03:19.599 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% As long as I had those things taken care of, 03:19.699 --> 03:21.701 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% I could also make pots. 03:21.801 --> 03:25.705 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% [off-screen] Corey, these are little coffee mugs. 03:25.805 --> 03:27.340 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% They're sort of a variation 03:27.440 --> 03:29.209 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% of that Cole mug that I love 03:29.309 --> 03:30.643 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% from Sanford, North Carolina. 03:30.743 --> 03:33.012 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% [voice-over] He would throw a pot. 03:33.112 --> 03:35.882 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% That was the sort of small piece of perfection 03:35.982 --> 03:37.617 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% that I was striving for. 03:37.717 --> 03:40.019 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% I actually think that somewhere in between-- 03:40.119 --> 03:43.556 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% [voice-over] And the rest of the day, I would look at that pot, 03:43.656 --> 03:45.925 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% and I would try to mimic it. 03:46.025 --> 03:47.927 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 03:48.027 --> 03:50.597 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% And you need to sorta sacrifice your ego. 03:50.697 --> 03:53.967 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% If you can't do that, this type of apprenticeship 03:54.067 --> 03:56.769 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% will prove to be very difficult. 03:56.869 --> 03:59.105 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% Keep it a little wider at the top. 03:59.205 --> 04:01.441 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% [voice-over] It's bigger than just you. 04:01.541 --> 04:03.543 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% You're part of a whole arc. 04:03.643 --> 04:07.647 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% I worked with Matt; Matt worked with Mark Hewitt. 04:07.747 --> 04:10.083 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% Mark Hewitt was with Todd Piker. 04:10.183 --> 04:12.485 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% They were with Michael Cardew in England. 04:12.585 --> 04:14.654 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% Cardew was Bernard Leach's first apprentice. 04:14.754 --> 04:17.190 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% We're all sort of in it together 04:17.290 --> 04:19.092 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% and pushing each other forward. 04:19.192 --> 04:21.261 align:left position:37.5%,start line:65% size:52.5% [rustling] 04:22.528 --> 04:27.233 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% North Carolina's really a-- a land made of clay. 04:27.333 --> 04:29.836 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% It's everywhere. 04:29.936 --> 04:31.271 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% [machine whirring] 04:31.371 --> 04:35.241 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% I can number the first time that I used a local clay, 04:35.341 --> 04:38.478 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% and it was a huge amount of work, 04:38.578 --> 04:40.480 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% and it's incredibly labor-intensive 04:40.580 --> 04:43.483 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% to refine it and process it. 04:43.583 --> 04:48.021 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% But it threw beautifully, 04:48.121 --> 04:50.556 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% and the color was beautiful, 04:50.657 --> 04:54.193 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% and it had all this character. 04:54.294 --> 04:57.030 align:left position:37.5%,start line:65% size:52.5% [slapping] 04:57.130 --> 05:00.700 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% But the throwing, I struggle with it. 05:00.800 --> 05:03.102 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% [strings support piano melody] 05:03.202 --> 05:05.104 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 05:05.204 --> 05:06.839 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% I think that's a funny illusion, 05:06.939 --> 05:10.343 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% that art is joy 'cause it's not always joy. 05:11.611 --> 05:15.782 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% And I think a lot of good art comes from struggle... 05:15.882 --> 05:19.118 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% and there's good days, and there's bad days. 05:19.218 --> 05:22.689 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 05:22.789 --> 05:26.359 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% The way that I throw is-- it's looking at older pots, 05:26.459 --> 05:28.461 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% especially older pots from North Carolina, 05:28.561 --> 05:31.230 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% and looking at characteristics of those pots. 05:31.331 --> 05:33.766 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% Since most of those pots were made for function, 05:33.866 --> 05:35.635 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% it was important that they were light, 05:35.735 --> 05:37.270 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% and so there's certain things 05:37.370 --> 05:39.138 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% that I really beat myself up about, 05:39.238 --> 05:41.741 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% trying to make them as light as possible. 05:41.841 --> 05:43.743 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 05:43.843 --> 05:46.112 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% But they have to look good sitting-- 05:46.212 --> 05:48.614 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% a nice, midcentury home or a modern home. 05:48.715 --> 05:50.350 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% I mean, that's the real challenge 05:50.450 --> 05:52.819 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% for me now, I feel, is the pots 05:52.919 --> 05:55.254 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% fit into a broader context of the world, 05:55.355 --> 05:58.324 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% not just be suited for a country cottage. 05:58.424 --> 06:01.227 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% [orchestration thickens] 06:01.327 --> 06:02.895 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 06:02.995 --> 06:04.731 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% But every once in a while, 06:04.831 --> 06:08.368 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% it's kind of nice to come back to an older form. 06:08.468 --> 06:10.370 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 06:10.470 --> 06:12.405 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% There's an elegance to a pitcher 06:12.505 --> 06:14.874 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% that I don't really wanna mess with. 06:14.974 --> 06:18.177 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% Instead, it's just a slow refinement of the form. 06:18.277 --> 06:20.246 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% [oboe leads piano] 06:20.346 --> 06:22.715 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 06:22.815 --> 06:25.284 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% I mean, they had to make a lot of these. 06:25.385 --> 06:27.019 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% They had to be very proficient, 06:27.120 --> 06:29.589 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% but they still added a little bit of themselves 06:29.689 --> 06:31.324 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% into each one. 06:31.424 --> 06:34.894 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% They still had the touch of the maker. 06:34.994 --> 06:45.505 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 06:45.605 --> 06:47.974 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% The technique that I use to decorate pots 06:48.074 --> 06:50.810 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% is calledslip trailing,  and it's an old technique. 06:50.910 --> 06:52.879 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% You can see it all over the world 06:52.979 --> 06:54.480 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% in all different pottery traditions, 06:54.580 --> 06:58.284 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% and it's something I express a little of myself in that, 06:58.384 --> 07:00.420 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% and that's certainly what people 07:00.520 --> 07:04.390 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% seem to recognize me for is my slip trailing. 07:04.490 --> 07:09.095 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 07:09.195 --> 07:11.597 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% I grew up with both my mother and father, 07:11.697 --> 07:12.999 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% practicing artists. 07:13.099 --> 07:15.001 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% As long as I can remember, 07:15.101 --> 07:17.270 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% they were in their studios working. 07:17.370 --> 07:20.540 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% That is what I saw, so to be an artist, 07:20.640 --> 07:22.675 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% nobody would raise an eyebrow at it. 07:22.775 --> 07:25.945 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% It was like the doctor's son going to med school. 07:26.045 --> 07:28.681 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 07:28.781 --> 07:32.018 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% Being up here every day, it turns into a juggling act. 07:32.118 --> 07:34.020 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 07:34.120 --> 07:36.689 align:left position:37.5%,start line:65% size:52.5% [sloshing] 07:36.789 --> 07:39.759 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% Certain ones need to be attended to at certain times, 07:39.859 --> 07:41.494 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% and they need to be decorated. 07:41.594 --> 07:44.964 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% These need to be glazed, and these need to be trimmed. 07:45.064 --> 07:47.500 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% Watching the racks fill up with pots, 07:47.600 --> 07:49.702 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% it's really fantastic. 07:49.802 --> 07:51.704 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 07:51.804 --> 07:52.972 align:left position:40%,start line:65% size:50% Hah, hah! 07:53.072 --> 07:54.340 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% What'd you ruin? 07:54.440 --> 07:55.775 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% I erased it, and-- 07:55.875 --> 07:58.177 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% Well, you can just turn this into a leaf. 07:58.277 --> 07:59.912 align:left position:37.5%,start line:65% size:52.5% But I tried to do that, 08:00.012 --> 08:02.048 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% and then it looked ridiculous--heh! 08:02.148 --> 08:04.317 align:left position:37.5%,start line:65% size:52.5% [sizzling] 08:05.585 --> 08:07.820 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% [indistinct talking] 08:07.920 --> 08:09.489 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% (man) Connie and I met 08:09.589 --> 08:12.124 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% in Madison County at a farmers' market 08:12.225 --> 08:14.994 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% in the bottom of the old roller rink 08:15.094 --> 08:16.996 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% in Mars Hill... 08:18.264 --> 08:20.633 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% and she worked for a goat dairy 08:20.733 --> 08:22.802 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% in northern Madison County. 08:22.902 --> 08:25.137 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% She was selling goat cheese. 08:25.238 --> 08:27.006 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% We spent that first winter 08:27.106 --> 08:29.509 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% driving back and forth on these snowy roads-- 08:29.609 --> 08:32.979 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% it was the craziest winter that we've had in years-- 08:33.079 --> 08:36.082 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% through two feet of snow. 08:36.182 --> 08:39.151 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% She's watched this go from an old tobacco field 08:39.252 --> 08:43.189 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% to what it is today and been part of that change. 08:43.289 --> 08:45.224 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% She's really hugely important. 08:45.324 --> 08:48.861 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% [horns and drums lead] 08:48.961 --> 08:50.997 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% Our year is broken into cycles, 08:51.097 --> 08:52.365 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% and right now, 08:52.465 --> 08:54.100 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% I've fired the kiln four times, 08:54.200 --> 08:56.168 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% so that's four different cycles. 08:56.269 --> 08:59.238 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% As I'm making the pots, I sort of have an idea of, 08:59.338 --> 09:01.874 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% in my head, where they're gonna go in the kiln. 09:01.974 --> 09:04.443 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% [off-screen] Let's come over towards me just a hair. 09:04.544 --> 09:05.711 align:left position:35%,start line:65% size:55% That's good. 09:05.811 --> 09:07.213 align:left position:40%,start line:65% size:50% It's OK; it's OK. 09:07.313 --> 09:09.815 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% [voice-over] It's a puzzle to fit them all in. 09:09.916 --> 09:11.551 align:left position:35%,start line:65% size:55% [harp leads] 09:11.651 --> 09:13.853 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% [off-screen] I think the short, fat one, yeah-- 09:13.953 --> 09:15.454 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% bring-- bring me that one. 09:15.555 --> 09:17.189 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% [voice-over] For the most part, 09:17.290 --> 09:18.925 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% pots farther back in the kiln 09:19.025 --> 09:21.127 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% have more decoration, more glaze. 09:21.227 --> 09:23.896 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 09:23.996 --> 09:26.566 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% The farther you are in the front of the kiln, 09:26.666 --> 09:29.835 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% the more ash and salt the pots are gonna have on them 09:29.936 --> 09:32.905 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% because the hottest part of the kiln is in the front, 09:33.005 --> 09:35.708 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% so they don't need as much surface decoration, 09:35.808 --> 09:37.310 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% but the form is important, 09:37.410 --> 09:39.045 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% but then, the form will interact 09:39.145 --> 09:40.646 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% with the ash deposit 09:40.746 --> 09:42.715 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% that the flame will put on them. 09:42.815 --> 09:46.485 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% So that relies on the fire to do all of the work. 09:46.586 --> 09:48.554 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 09:48.654 --> 09:51.691 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% Well, that's the most intense moment because you've got 09:51.791 --> 09:54.360 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% two or three months of work behind you, 09:54.460 --> 09:56.862 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% and you load it into the kiln, 09:56.963 --> 10:00.733 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% and then, you sorta step back away from it. 10:02.001 --> 10:04.136 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% [wood snapping] 10:04.236 --> 10:07.740 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% There is an element of serendipity and chance 10:07.840 --> 10:09.742 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% that you have in that process 10:09.842 --> 10:12.645 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% that doesn't exist in many other artistic processes. 10:12.745 --> 10:15.648 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% [strings hold high note] 10:15.748 --> 10:17.717 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% I still have control, but there's certainly 10:17.817 --> 10:20.386 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% a lotta things that are happening in the kiln 10:20.486 --> 10:22.722 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% that you don't have control over. 10:22.822 --> 10:24.757 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% [bells lead as arrangement swells] 10:24.857 --> 10:26.993 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% [fire crackling] 10:27.093 --> 10:31.864 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 10:31.964 --> 10:34.600 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% [sustained violin chord] 10:34.700 --> 10:37.069 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% I think, in my situation, 10:37.169 --> 10:41.674 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% I had to kind of run away to find myself. 10:41.774 --> 10:44.410 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% [piano melody emerges] 10:44.510 --> 10:46.145 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% So, my family history, 10:46.245 --> 10:50.049 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% if we wanna talk about my family history... 10:50.149 --> 10:53.352 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% is Henri Matisse, um, 10:53.452 --> 10:57.556 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% the painter, who had some children, 10:57.657 --> 11:01.894 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% one of whom was Pierre, who's my grandfather. 11:01.994 --> 11:04.497 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% I grew up with this stuff around me. 11:04.597 --> 11:09.168 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% I mean, it was just an everyday part of our lives. 11:09.268 --> 11:12.872 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% We never talked about Henri. 11:12.972 --> 11:17.977 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% It was always sort of a great elephant in the room. 11:18.077 --> 11:22.515 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% There's a-- a power behind it that, um-- 11:22.615 --> 11:25.184 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% that certainly doesn't go away, 11:25.284 --> 11:29.321 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% and every time you walk through an exhibit, 11:29.422 --> 11:31.891 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% it always kinda leaves me speechless 11:31.991 --> 11:35.528 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% because what-- what do you do in that wake 11:35.628 --> 11:38.497 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% when that's always behind you? 11:38.597 --> 11:40.332 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% [fire crackling] 11:40.433 --> 11:42.368 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% There are times when it feels 11:42.468 --> 11:45.104 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% like the shadow that's cast by those figures 11:45.204 --> 11:49.475 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% is kind of too broad to ever get out from underneath... 11:49.575 --> 11:51.577 align:left position:35%,start line:65% size:55% [oboe leads] 11:51.677 --> 11:54.847 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% but nothing that, I think, putting your head down 11:54.947 --> 11:57.616 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% and getting to work won't resolve. 11:57.717 --> 12:01.554 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 12:01.654 --> 12:05.458 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% And being here sort of pushed me forward 12:05.558 --> 12:09.662 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% to make the best work that I can make. 12:10.930 --> 12:14.200 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% It didn't really matter what my last name was 12:14.300 --> 12:16.535 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% because people started to recognize me 12:16.635 --> 12:18.537 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% for what I was doing. 12:18.637 --> 12:25.411 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 12:25.511 --> 12:28.013 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% [fire roaring] 12:29.648 --> 12:32.918 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% So this is the third and final day of the firing. 12:33.018 --> 12:35.354 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% [machine humming] 12:35.454 --> 12:37.223 align:left position:35%,start line:65% size:55% [off-screen] It's good. 12:37.323 --> 12:39.391 align:left position:42.5%,start line:65% size:47.5% Enough. 12:39.492 --> 12:40.760 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% [machine ceases] 12:40.860 --> 12:43.896 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% Right now, we're at top temperature in the front. 12:43.996 --> 12:45.631 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% The clay is mature; it's done. 12:45.731 --> 12:47.933 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% We're just building up ash deposits on the clay, 12:48.033 --> 12:50.369 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% building up the character of the clay body. 12:50.469 --> 12:52.972 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% Right now, Josh is stoking, and the door's open, 12:53.072 --> 12:54.540 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% so the temperature's dropping. 12:54.640 --> 12:56.675 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% As he stokes, it'll take a minute. 12:56.776 --> 12:58.978 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% There's always a lag. 13:02.081 --> 13:04.083 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% And as it's catching, right in the beginning, 13:04.183 --> 13:05.851 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% the kiln will go into reduction, 13:05.951 --> 13:08.754 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% meaning there's too much fuel and not enough oxygen, 13:08.854 --> 13:11.023 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% but as that fuel starts to burn, 13:11.123 --> 13:12.925 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% then we'll see the temperature 13:13.025 --> 13:15.795 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% start to go up, as it is. 13:15.895 --> 13:17.663 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% And this kiln is very responsive. 13:17.763 --> 13:19.932 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% It also depends on the wood you're burning. 13:20.032 --> 13:22.134 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% This wood is mostly pine and poplar, 13:22.234 --> 13:24.370 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% and it's been drying for about three months, 13:24.470 --> 13:26.405 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% so it's really dry. 13:26.505 --> 13:28.607 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% It's ready to burn. 13:30.543 --> 13:32.545 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% So after a stoke in the front, 13:32.645 --> 13:35.881 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% you'll see a huge flame coming out the chimney. 13:35.981 --> 13:38.217 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% Once that flame comes back into the chimney, 13:38.317 --> 13:39.819 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% then, you know, the atmosphere-- 13:39.919 --> 13:41.687 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% it's kind of cleared up in there-- 13:41.787 --> 13:43.556 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% the back is ready for a stoke. 13:43.656 --> 13:44.924 align:left position:35%,start line:65% size:55% OK, go ahead? 13:45.024 --> 13:46.192 align:left position:40%,start line:65% size:50% (Matisse) Yup. 13:46.292 --> 13:47.927 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% [voice-over] It's important in the back 13:48.027 --> 13:49.995 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% because that's where all the glazed ware is. 13:50.095 --> 13:51.597 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% It's important to get temperature 13:51.697 --> 13:53.199 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% so the glazes will melt, 13:53.299 --> 13:55.768 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% and I formulate my glazes to be a little stiffer 13:55.868 --> 13:57.503 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% because this kiln gets so hot, 13:57.603 --> 13:59.572 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% and you need it to be really hot 13:59.672 --> 14:01.907 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% to get that temperature in the back. 14:02.007 --> 14:03.943 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% [piano leads calm orchestration] 14:04.043 --> 14:05.911 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 14:06.011 --> 14:08.547 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% Once in a while, towards the end of a firing, 14:08.647 --> 14:11.450 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% I'll pull out a cup or something small from the front. 14:11.550 --> 14:13.485 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 14:13.586 --> 14:15.554 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% I'm never actually in love with the pots 14:15.654 --> 14:17.623 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% that I pull out because a lot happens 14:17.723 --> 14:19.358 align:left position:15%,start line:65% size:75% from the time you stop firing 14:19.458 --> 14:21.660 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% to the time they come out of the kiln. 14:21.760 --> 14:24.763 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% What it does give me is a sense of how much ash 14:24.864 --> 14:27.066 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% and how much salt I have on the pots. 14:27.166 --> 14:29.368 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% This has a pretty thin shino on it, 14:29.468 --> 14:31.871 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% which has gotten a little darker in the reduction-- 14:31.971 --> 14:33.606 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% the heat in the front, 14:33.706 --> 14:36.408 align:left position:12.5%,start line:65% size:77.5% that I would like a little more ash on this pot, 14:36.508 --> 14:38.143 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% so I'll probably just keep goin' 14:38.244 --> 14:39.879 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% for another hour or two. 14:39.979 --> 14:42.381 align:left position:35%,start line:65% size:55% [oboe leads] 14:42.481 --> 14:50.956 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 14:51.056 --> 14:53.259 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% I had this sort of notion 14:53.359 --> 14:55.995 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% of wanting to go into the woods 14:56.095 --> 14:57.997 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% and come out and-- 14:58.097 --> 15:00.266 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% and have this skill... 15:00.366 --> 15:02.468 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 15:02.568 --> 15:05.771 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% and have something to-- to offer the world. 15:05.871 --> 15:09.808 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% I wanted to create a place that would eventually 15:09.909 --> 15:12.011 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% have its own energy 15:12.111 --> 15:14.947 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% and attract other people. 15:15.047 --> 15:16.815 align:left position:30%,start line:65% size:60% It is doing that. 15:16.916 --> 15:19.585 align:left position:20%,start line:65% size:70% It is opening itself up. 15:19.685 --> 15:22.288 align:left position:17.5%,start line:65% size:72.5% The evolution is very slow. 15:22.388 --> 15:24.456 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪ 15:24.556 --> 15:26.725 align:left position:27.5%,start line:65% size:62.5% You're not gonna hit a point one day 15:26.825 --> 15:28.594 align:left position:35%,start line:65% size:55% and wake up, and suddenly, 15:28.694 --> 15:30.696 align:left position:32.5%,start line:65% size:57.5% you're there; you've arrived. 15:30.796 --> 15:32.932 align:left position:25%,start line:65% size:65% I have to work at it. 15:33.032 --> 15:34.934 align:left position:22.5%,start line:65% size:67.5% [bells and piano lead] 15:35.034 --> 15:40.105 align:left position:50%,start line:65% size:40% ♪