WEBVTT 00:00.867 --> 00:03.003 align:left [echoing piano leads placid arrangement] 00:03.003 --> 00:07.674 align:left § 00:07.674 --> 00:10.343 align:left (man) To me, the writer's block 00:10.343 --> 00:12.846 align:left is more writer's evasion 00:12.846 --> 00:15.582 align:left [chuckling] or writer's procrastination. 00:16.850 --> 00:19.786 align:left If I get myself in a chair, 00:19.786 --> 00:23.223 align:left I can always think of a story. 00:23.223 --> 00:25.025 align:left It just comes. 00:25.025 --> 00:27.027 align:left § 00:27.027 --> 00:29.896 align:left This is the opening of, uh, &nbspDarkWinter, 00:29.896 --> 00:32.432 align:left which is one of the Cuddy Mangum novels, 00:32.432 --> 00:34.734 align:left so I know the voice. 00:34.734 --> 00:37.137 align:left I--I've heard Cuddy before, 00:37.137 --> 00:39.506 align:left but to capture exactly 00:39.506 --> 00:42.976 align:left what that voice says is-- 00:42.976 --> 00:45.178 align:left is crucial to me. 00:45.178 --> 00:47.547 align:left Here's the first sentence: 00:47.547 --> 00:52.018 align:left "This is about the summer when everything changed." 00:52.018 --> 00:54.054 align:left Now, I thought a lot 00:54.054 --> 00:57.123 align:left and then have removed the word when. 00:57.123 --> 01:00.560 align:left "This is the summer everything changed." 01:00.560 --> 01:03.463 align:left That's--doesn't seem like much of a difference, 01:03.463 --> 01:06.766 align:left but it's &nbspevery difference. 01:06.766 --> 01:08.802 align:left Like Mark Twain said, 01:08.802 --> 01:11.004 align:left the difference between one word 01:11.004 --> 01:13.340 align:left and another word is the difference 01:13.340 --> 01:17.410 align:left between lightning and a lightning bug. 01:17.410 --> 01:19.879 align:left So you're looking for the lightning 01:19.879 --> 01:21.881 align:left when you write. 01:21.881 --> 01:25.552 align:left § 01:25.552 --> 01:28.621 align:left After so many years, decades away, 01:28.621 --> 01:30.090 align:left I was writing television. 01:30.090 --> 01:31.925 align:left I was in New York. 01:31.925 --> 01:35.395 align:left Maureen was teaching at, uh, University of Pennsylvania. 01:35.395 --> 01:37.664 align:left I had met Eudora Welty, 01:37.664 --> 01:40.100 align:left whose work I &nbsphugely admired. 01:40.100 --> 01:42.669 align:left I told her, "I'm havin' trouble, 01:42.669 --> 01:44.838 align:left "and I've written three novels. 01:44.838 --> 01:46.840 align:left "Novel one's California. 01:46.840 --> 01:48.975 align:left "Novel two's Colorado. 01:48.975 --> 01:51.111 align:left Novel three's Connecticut." 01:51.111 --> 01:54.914 align:left And she said, "Honey, you're just sneakin' up on Carolina. 01:54.914 --> 01:57.984 align:left "You go home and let your fiction 01:57.984 --> 02:01.688 align:left grow out of that land beneath your feet." 02:01.688 --> 02:06.026 align:left [chuckling] It was an astonishing moment in my life. 02:06.026 --> 02:08.328 align:left I started &nbspUncivilSeasons. 02:08.328 --> 02:11.531 align:left The moment I wrote that first sentence: 02:11.531 --> 02:14.701 align:left "Two things don't happen very often... 02:21.508 --> 02:24.344 align:left That voice that &nbspwe was different-- 02:24.344 --> 02:26.613 align:left I was always puttin' these outsiders 02:26.613 --> 02:28.348 align:left in the first novels-- 02:28.348 --> 02:32.352 align:left the person from the South who was living in Connecticut, 02:32.352 --> 02:35.588 align:left but then I was in that red clay, 02:35.588 --> 02:38.992 align:left that landscape of my imagination. 02:38.992 --> 02:44.030 align:left I think those experiences are set fairly early. 02:44.030 --> 02:45.565 align:left Willa Cather-- 02:45.565 --> 02:47.667 align:left she lived in Red Cloud, Nebraska, 02:47.667 --> 02:50.003 align:left from age 9 to age 15, 02:50.003 --> 02:52.772 align:left but that's the landscape of her imagination. 02:52.772 --> 02:55.108 align:left That's what she sees. 02:55.108 --> 02:58.678 align:left Joyce had long since gotten outta Dublin, 02:58.678 --> 03:00.780 align:left but you read &nbspUlysses, 03:00.780 --> 03:05.285 align:left and you are on the streets and in the pubs. 03:05.285 --> 03:07.287 align:left And for me, 03:07.287 --> 03:10.557 align:left the red clay of North Carolina, 03:10.557 --> 03:13.660 align:left the towns, the sound-- 03:13.660 --> 03:17.797 align:left that is key, and when we came back here 03:17.797 --> 03:20.100 align:left and were looking for a place to live, 03:20.100 --> 03:21.668 align:left we came to Hillsborough. 03:21.668 --> 03:23.536 align:left First of all, Maureen's wandering around, 03:23.536 --> 03:25.071 align:left saying, "Oh my God! 03:25.071 --> 03:28.742 align:left It's like being inside your fiction." 03:28.742 --> 03:33.179 align:left I'm livin' in a house in which there were slaves 03:33.179 --> 03:36.216 align:left who moved away with Emancipation. 03:36.216 --> 03:39.085 align:left I am living in the presence 03:39.085 --> 03:41.421 align:left of the history 03:41.421 --> 03:43.423 align:left that is so important 03:43.423 --> 03:46.993 align:left to any writer from the South. 03:46.993 --> 03:50.730 align:left When I came here, I just sat down in a chair 03:50.730 --> 03:54.768 align:left and started to write as fast as I could. 03:54.768 --> 03:58.805 align:left I am just passionate about silence 03:58.805 --> 04:02.375 align:left because the way I write is to sit there 04:02.375 --> 04:05.412 align:left and essentially say, "Talk to me." 04:05.412 --> 04:08.381 align:left I'm listening so hard, 04:08.381 --> 04:10.617 align:left and I think that's really coming out 04:10.617 --> 04:12.886 align:left of my personal experience. 04:12.886 --> 04:14.988 align:left My mother was deaf, 04:14.988 --> 04:19.626 align:left and I was... her ears in a way-- 04:19.626 --> 04:21.661 align:left "Listen for me"-- 04:21.661 --> 04:23.830 align:left and I really think there's a relation 04:23.830 --> 04:27.200 align:left between that and my being a writer. 04:27.200 --> 04:29.369 align:left Who is the voice? 04:29.369 --> 04:31.471 align:left Who's gonna tell this story? 04:31.471 --> 04:32.839 align:left I always say, 04:32.839 --> 04:35.742 align:left you don't have to be a whale to write Moby Dick. 04:35.742 --> 04:39.245 align:left You know, that person may be very different from you, 04:39.245 --> 04:41.548 align:left but you-- you have to hear. 04:41.548 --> 04:44.984 align:left "Through a meadow where in summer wildflowers grew. 04:44.984 --> 04:48.021 align:left "Toward the bottom, the slope plunged steeply 04:48.021 --> 04:50.190 align:left "through the knolls and gullies 04:50.190 --> 04:53.660 align:left "left by century-old earthen terraces 04:53.660 --> 04:56.996 align:left "falling to the edge of the dark woods 04:56.996 --> 04:59.532 align:left that guarded Heaven's Hill." 04:59.532 --> 05:01.534 align:left [delicate piano leads droning strings] 05:01.534 --> 05:03.803 align:left The physical landscape 05:03.803 --> 05:08.074 align:left defined this place that we live in-- 05:08.074 --> 05:12.445 align:left became a fictional place to me. 05:12.445 --> 05:15.648 align:left The courthouse in Hillsborough showed up in "Red Clay," 05:15.648 --> 05:17.250 align:left a short story of mine. 05:17.250 --> 05:18.718 align:left [guitar leads strings] 05:18.718 --> 05:20.720 align:left "Up on its short slope, 05:20.720 --> 05:22.956 align:left "the columned front of our courthouse 05:22.956 --> 05:25.191 align:left "was waxy in the August sun, 05:25.191 --> 05:27.694 align:left "like a courthouse in lake water. 05:27.694 --> 05:31.965 align:left "The leaves hung from maples, and the flag of North Carolina 05:31.965 --> 05:35.502 align:left "wilted flat against its metal pole. 05:35.502 --> 05:37.604 align:left "Heat sat sodden over the county 05:37.604 --> 05:39.706 align:left "week by relentless week; 05:39.706 --> 05:42.208 align:left "they called the weather 'dog days' 05:42.208 --> 05:44.444 align:left "after the star, Sirius, 05:44.444 --> 05:46.813 align:left but none of us knew that." 05:46.813 --> 05:48.848 align:left [strings ebb and flow] 05:48.848 --> 05:53.153 align:left The mill's so much a part of the change 05:53.153 --> 05:56.856 align:left from the old South to the new South that is, uh, 05:56.856 --> 05:58.591 align:left a part of the story, 05:58.591 --> 06:00.927 align:left particularly of &nbspTime's Witness. 06:00.927 --> 06:04.164 align:left "The factory whistles kept crying over Hillston, 06:04.164 --> 06:06.666 align:left "grieving for the old industrialist 06:06.666 --> 06:08.535 align:left "who'd built them. 06:08.535 --> 06:11.638 align:left "Decade after decade they'd summoned the town 06:11.638 --> 06:15.075 align:left "each morning to come weave for him, 06:15.075 --> 06:18.478 align:left "told it at noon to eat lunch, 06:18.478 --> 06:21.881 align:left "sent it home each evening to rest; 06:21.881 --> 06:25.719 align:left "now they wailed that Briggs Cadmean was dead, 06:25.719 --> 06:28.788 align:left "wailed loudest here in East Hillston 06:28.788 --> 06:30.990 align:left where the factories loomed." 06:30.990 --> 06:33.193 align:left [piano leads] 06:33.193 --> 06:37.397 align:left Writing is a lonely business... 06:38.665 --> 06:43.236 align:left takes isolation... 06:43.236 --> 06:45.605 align:left and so it's wonderful to-- 06:45.605 --> 06:50.543 align:left to have other people that are doing that. 06:50.543 --> 06:53.346 align:left These are all my neighbors in Hillsborough 06:53.346 --> 06:55.348 align:left and all my wonderful friends: 06:55.348 --> 06:58.084 align:left Allan Gurganus, Jill McCorkle, 06:58.084 --> 07:01.321 align:left Lee Smith, Craig Nova. 07:01.321 --> 07:05.191 align:left All these people live and write here in Hillsborough. 07:05.191 --> 07:07.327 align:left [peaceful guitar and piano theme] 07:07.327 --> 07:11.731 align:left I do find that this group of world-class writers 07:11.731 --> 07:14.968 align:left are wonderfully harmonious. 07:14.968 --> 07:18.204 align:left The beauty of having a porch like this is, 07:18.204 --> 07:20.273 align:left I can work on the porch, 07:20.273 --> 07:22.575 align:left and I can either speak to people or not. 07:22.575 --> 07:24.177 align:left They don't really see you 07:24.177 --> 07:25.679 align:left 'cause you're slightly recessed, 07:25.679 --> 07:27.781 align:left but it's like command performance, you know. 07:27.781 --> 07:29.883 align:left You have to actually formally invite people 07:29.883 --> 07:31.885 align:left to come and sit on the porch. 07:31.885 --> 07:33.787 align:left They know not-- "Hi!" is not, 07:33.787 --> 07:36.322 align:left "Will you come and join me for an hour." 07:36.322 --> 07:39.159 align:left It's a buffer; it's something pleasant-- slows 'em down. 07:39.159 --> 07:41.695 align:left Then you choose the ones you want to invite. 07:41.695 --> 07:43.129 align:left What are we doin' 07:43.129 --> 07:44.864 align:left in this little town in Hillsborough? 07:44.864 --> 07:47.567 align:left But here we are. 07:47.567 --> 07:50.370 align:left (woman) "So, at the beginning of this particular summer, 07:50.370 --> 07:52.372 align:left "the summer everything changed, 07:52.372 --> 07:55.208 align:left "I started packing to head west on Highway 64 07:55.208 --> 07:58.912 align:left in search of a new job, new town, new Cuddy Mangum." 07:58.912 --> 08:02.949 align:left (Malone) I have been graced by my marriage to Maureen. 08:02.949 --> 08:04.818 align:left Editors come and go, 08:04.818 --> 08:07.020 align:left and publishing houses come and go, 08:07.020 --> 08:09.756 align:left and she has been my constant reader. 08:09.756 --> 08:11.191 align:left (Quilligan) "Created herself young, 08:11.191 --> 08:13.126 align:left "mostly out of movies, in the belief 08:13.126 --> 08:14.961 align:left "that your script can come true 08:14.961 --> 08:16.963 align:left if you keep on believing in it." 08:16.963 --> 08:18.832 align:left And she loves to-- 08:18.832 --> 08:21.334 align:left sometimes, a little hard on me-- 08:21.334 --> 08:24.104 align:left hah, you know, yeah-- but I've learned, 08:24.104 --> 08:25.705 align:left just watch her face. 08:25.705 --> 08:28.141 align:left If she winces, you wanna change that word. 08:28.141 --> 08:29.943 align:left This, everyone's gonna recognize-- 08:29.943 --> 08:31.745 align:left oh, Cuddy's back! 08:31.745 --> 08:35.849 align:left (Malone) And she's been very much a part of my work. 08:35.849 --> 08:37.884 align:left § 08:37.884 --> 08:41.654 align:left A novel, when you write it, you send it out, 08:41.654 --> 08:45.091 align:left and only when it reaches a reader, 08:45.091 --> 08:46.626 align:left when they respond 08:46.626 --> 08:49.462 align:left out of the world they come from, 08:49.462 --> 08:51.564 align:left out of the feelings they have, 08:51.564 --> 08:54.200 align:left out of the desires and the hopes 08:54.200 --> 08:56.803 align:left and the renunciations of their lives, 08:56.803 --> 08:59.539 align:left does that novel fulfill itself. 08:59.539 --> 09:03.276 align:left That's the great hope for a creator of a story... 09:03.276 --> 09:06.279 align:left "Wind was cold off the bright water 09:06.279 --> 09:08.581 align:left of Albemarle Sound." 09:08.581 --> 09:11.851 align:left ...that it won't be silenced by time... 09:11.851 --> 09:14.054 align:left "As I met the ocean, 09:14.054 --> 09:16.923 align:left the sun blew up over the horizon line." 09:16.923 --> 09:19.325 align:left ...that the characters will be there 09:19.325 --> 09:21.695 align:left for a new generation of readers 09:21.695 --> 09:23.763 align:left and will speak to them. 09:23.763 --> 09:26.700 align:left "Shafts of sea oats bowed shaking 09:26.700 --> 09:29.369 align:left "to a sandy highway 09:29.369 --> 09:31.705 align:left "that warned of the dangers 09:31.705 --> 09:33.239 align:left of leaving it." 09:33.239 --> 09:37.239 align:left §