WEBVTT 00:02.500 --> 00:05.466 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: Finally, remembering filmmaker George Romero, the master of the zombie movie 00:07.433 --> 00:10.933 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% and a man whose influence in the business went further than many moviegoers realize. 00:11.800 --> 00:13.833 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Jeffrey Brown has our look. 00:13.833 --> 00:17.600 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% ACTOR: Medical examination of victims bodies show conclusively that the killers are eating 00:18.766 --> 00:20.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the flesh of the people they kill. 00:20.833 --> 00:25.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: With a $100,000 in 1968, George Romero brought the undead back to life in 00:27.333 --> 00:29.433 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% American culture. 00:29.433 --> 00:33.733 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% His "Night of the Living Dead" became a cult classic, and launched a modern zombie industry 00:35.700 --> 00:39.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% of soulless ghouls with a taste for human flesh popping up everywhere today. 00:41.066 --> 00:43.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% For Romero, his films were about more than just blood and graphic violence. 00:43.433 --> 00:47.133 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% GEORGE ROMERO, Director: This series of films have been sort of my platform. 00:47.133 --> 00:50.500 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% It's ripe for metaphor. 00:50.500 --> 00:55.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And the zombies, to me, have always represented the people that are just unwilling to stand 00:59.033 --> 01:00.566 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% up. 01:00.566 --> 01:03.166 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% And, you know, there are a lot of living dead in America. 01:03.166 --> 01:08.166 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: "Night of the Living Dead," starring an African-American actor, was seen 01:10.066 --> 01:13.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% as a kind of social commentary on racism and the paranoid mood of its time. 01:15.466 --> 01:18.700 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% A decade later, Romero's first sequel, "Dawn of the Dead," played on the excesses of American 01:20.266 --> 01:22.233 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% consumerism. 01:22.233 --> 01:26.633 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Roger Ebert dubbed it one of the best horror films ever made, savagely merciless in its 01:27.300 --> 01:30.300 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% satiric view. 01:30.300 --> 01:35.100 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Romero followed up with many other films, including four more in the "Dead" series, 01:35.100 --> 01:37.566 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% with varying degrees of box office success. 01:37.566 --> 01:42.566 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% But the zombie world he unleashed took on a massive multibillion-dollar life of its 01:44.633 --> 01:47.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% own in blockbuster films like "World War Z," video games, and AMC's "The Walking Dead." 01:50.433 --> 01:55.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% That, in turn, led Romero to sour a bit on the genre he helped popularize. 01:56.233 --> 01:58.366 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% He spoke on NPR in 2014. 01:58.366 --> 02:02.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% GEORGE ROMERO: It's, all of a sudden, you can't make a little zombie film anymore. 02:02.033 --> 02:04.500 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Has to be special effects and big budget. 02:04.500 --> 02:06.800 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% And I'm not -- I'm just not interested in that. 02:06.800 --> 02:10.900 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: Later in life, he shifted to different media, including teaming up with 02:10.900 --> 02:13.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Marvel to publish a comic book series. 02:13.900 --> 02:17.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% George Romero died Sunday in Toronto from lung cancer. 02:17.600 --> 02:22.133 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% He was 77 years old. 02:22.133 --> 02:26.900 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And for more on George Romero and his impact, I'm joined by Justin Chang, film critic for 02:26.900 --> 02:28.166 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% The Los Angeles Times. 02:28.166 --> 02:30.066 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% Welcome to you, Justin. 02:30.066 --> 02:32.500 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Zombies, who would have thought? 02:32.500 --> 02:35.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% What explains the impact of those early films? 02:35.433 --> 02:39.133 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUSTIN CHANG, The Los Angeles Times: Well, I think when you have a film like "Night of 02:39.133 --> 02:44.133 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% the Living Dead," which is, I think, one of the great debut films that any director in 02:46.166 --> 02:49.200 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% or outside the horror genre has ever given us, you have to look at the context, you know, 02:51.800 --> 02:54.533 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% Vietnam, Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination, the recent assassinations of the Kennedy brothers. 02:55.900 --> 02:58.066 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% It was a time of, obviously, great social unrest. 02:58.066 --> 03:03.066 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And George Romero found, unwittingly or not, a perfect metaphor for that unrest. 03:05.066 --> 03:10.066 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And I think it was about the primitiveness of the filmmaking, the very raw technique. 03:12.500 --> 03:15.166 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% It was shot on a $114,000 budget, which is about $800,000 today, still a very small budget. 03:17.133 --> 03:22.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And he achieved this kind of -- a film that was almost like a documentary nightmare. 03:24.066 --> 03:27.166 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% And it really captured, I think, a sense of rage and of pointlessness, a kind of senseless, 03:29.666 --> 03:33.800 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% arbitrary killing that was really unsettling for audiences at the time, and is still enormously 03:34.633 --> 03:36.633 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% unsettling today. 03:36.633 --> 03:40.300 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: His films, of course, largely done on the cheap, but somehow a cult thing 03:40.300 --> 03:43.833 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% grew into a very large cultural phenomenon. 03:43.833 --> 03:48.200 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He wasn't so crazy -- as we heard, he wasn't so crazy about what followed? 03:48.200 --> 03:50.133 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% JUSTIN CHANG: Absolutely. 03:50.133 --> 03:54.566 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% I mean, we live in a culture where zombies are proliferating on screens, whether it's 03:56.566 --> 03:59.933 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% "World War Z" or "The Walking Dead," which is still hugely popular, or the remake of 04:01.966 --> 04:05.700 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% "Dawn of the Dead" about 13 years ago, and terrific spoofs like "Shaun of the Dead," 04:05.700 --> 04:09.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% which I think is one of the few that George Romero has professed to actually liking. 04:09.333 --> 04:14.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% So, in a way, he was, I think, understandably disenchanted with the way that Hollywood really 04:18.166 --> 04:23.166 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% mainstreamed the zombie film and the zombie TV show, and in some ways took out that edginess, 04:25.600 --> 04:29.433 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% that political subtext that he was so good at putting in there. 04:29.433 --> 04:33.733 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% And I think he especially resented things like "The Walking Dead," because it made it 04:33.733 --> 04:38.733 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% very difficult for him to get his own zombie movies financed on an independent level. 04:40.700 --> 04:44.233 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% And he was a consummate independent filmmaker, and something of a Hollywood outsider and 04:46.066 --> 04:48.900 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% skeptic, I think, all his career, which makes his success all the more remarkable. 04:48.900 --> 04:53.900 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: For a lot of people, this stuff goes way too far, right, the graphic violence 04:55.966 --> 04:59.566 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% that's part of our society and that's really part of our entertainment culture. 05:00.833 --> 05:02.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Did he help create that, for better or for worse? 05:02.900 --> 05:06.800 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUSTIN CHANG: I don't think it's entirely fair to lay that as George Romero's doorstep. 05:06.800 --> 05:11.800 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And I say that as someone who's on the more squeamish side of the spectrum as far as horror 05:12.533 --> 05:14.566 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% movie viewers goes. 05:14.566 --> 05:17.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% But I think you have to look at his films, a film like "Dawn of the Dead," which is, 05:17.333 --> 05:20.066 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% I think, as great a masterpiece as "Night of the Living Dead" is. 05:20.066 --> 05:22.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% There is always something more going on beneath the violence. 05:22.566 --> 05:26.600 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% If you're just there for the splatter and the viscera, you will get that. 05:26.600 --> 05:30.966 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% But he gives you -- he's always asking you to look a little closer, see what's going 05:30.966 --> 05:34.666 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% on, see who these zombies represent, see who the real monsters are in a way. 05:34.666 --> 05:39.666 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% And so I don't think it's entirely fair to say that he's responsible for the fetishization 05:40.800 --> 05:42.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% and exploitation of violence in our culture. 05:42.866 --> 05:47.066 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He's using it -- I mean, he's exploiting violence in his own way, to very brilliant and very 05:47.066 --> 05:49.100 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% provocative ends. 05:49.100 --> 05:52.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: Just briefly, I do want to mention the passing of another movie figure, 05:52.033 --> 05:54.566 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% the actor Martin Landau. 05:54.566 --> 05:58.733 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% He was known early on, on television, in "Mission: Impossible," later in films, including "Ed 06:00.166 --> 06:02.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Wood," for which he won an Oscar for best supporting actor. 06:02.200 --> 06:06.800 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Let's take a look at a short scene from Woody Allen's 1989 film "Crimes and Misdemeanors." 06:06.800 --> 06:09.166 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% MARTIN LANDAU, Actor: This is what you plan on doing. 06:09.166 --> 06:14.000 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% You're going to hold on to me with threats, right, stupid threats and slander? 06:14.000 --> 06:15.233 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% This is your idea of love, right? 06:15.233 --> 06:16.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% ACTRESS: I will not be tossed out. 06:16.633 --> 06:18.066 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I want to speak to Miriam. 06:18.066 --> 06:19.733 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% MARTIN LANDAU: Think. 06:19.733 --> 06:23.366 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% For Christ's sake, think what the hell you are doing to me, will you? 06:23.366 --> 06:24.866 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% Please. 06:24.866 --> 06:26.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: Justin Chang, a brief thought on Martin Landau? 06:26.400 --> 06:29.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% JUSTIN CHANG: Martin Landau was such a wonderful actor. 06:29.833 --> 06:34.833 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And that scene you play sort of, I think, captures his elegance and gravitas, his ability 06:35.933 --> 06:39.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% to play a silken villain that we feel for. 06:39.433 --> 06:44.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% In that film, he's an adulterous husband who contemplates the murder of his lover. 06:46.333 --> 06:51.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And it's -- you know, I'm reminded, too, of his great performance many decades earlier 06:53.033 --> 06:56.100 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% in Alfred Hitchcock's "North By Northwest," where he took the role of a villain's number 06:56.100 --> 07:01.100 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% two and made it something really memorable and really incisive out of that. 07:03.100 --> 07:06.700 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And so it's not that he could only play villains, certainly not, but he had, I think, a real 07:06.700 --> 07:11.133 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% talent for playing morally ambiguous characters, and doing it superbly. 07:11.133 --> 07:14.666 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: All right, Justin Chang of The Los Angeles Times, thank you very much. 07:14.666 --> 07:16.000 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% JUSTIN CHANG: Thank you. 07:16.000 --> 07:17.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: And we thank you, Jeff. 07:17.633 --> 07:20.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% And I was covering my eyes until we got to Martin Landau.