WEBVTT 00:02.000 --> 00:05.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: When Jasson Howell Sr. received a mandatory 10-year federal prison sentence 00:06.933 --> 00:09.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% for heroin distribution, he shared that punishment with his family. 00:09.533 --> 00:14.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Two of his four children went to live with his parents, Kim and Dale Howell. The couple 00:16.466 --> 00:20.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% has worked tirelessly to raise their grandchildren, while staying connected to their son. 00:22.200 --> 00:25.366 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% Brief But Spectacular's Steve Goldbloom visited them in Portage, Wisconsin, in late 2019. 00:27.433 --> 00:31.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% DALE HOWELL, Grandfather: My son was always adventurous. Jasson was a hard worker. He 00:34.466 --> 00:38.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% got with a group of guys that were, for recreation, snorting pain pills on the weekends. Pretty 00:40.066 --> 00:43.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% soon, heroin was cheaper, and that became his drug of choice. 00:43.533 --> 00:47.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% It was constantly not enough money to pay for rent anymore, not enough money to keep 00:47.766 --> 00:52.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the water on. It was hard enough to see it being our son and his wife, but the children 00:53.500 --> 00:55.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% were the hardest of all. 00:55.533 --> 01:00.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Some of the people that he was with went into shooting up heroin. Jasson picked it up for 01:02.533 --> 01:05.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% a group of people. One of the kids shot up their girlfriend. She O.D.ed, see didn't die, 01:08.566 --> 01:13.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but she did O.D. And he served -- he got sentenced to a mandatory federal prison sentence of 01:15.200 --> 01:17.366 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% 10 years. 01:17.366 --> 01:22.366 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% When Jasson did get incarcerated, our oldest grandson was left alone oftentimes to take 01:24.733 --> 01:27.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% care of his younger siblings, which was probably - - probably the hardest time of my life. Their 01:30.333 --> 01:33.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% mother had overdosed and was being taken to the hospital. 01:33.366 --> 01:38.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% KIMBERLY HOWELL, Grandmother: We were planning on getting all four the children. And when 01:40.366 --> 01:43.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the courts decided to split them up between grandparents, that was a really hard situation. 01:45.866 --> 01:50.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MARCUS HOWELL, 16 Years Old: When I learned my dad was going away, it was hard for all 01:52.733 --> 01:56.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of us. The most challenging part, I'd say, was just learning how long he was going to 01:57.133 --> 01:59.300 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% be gone. 01:59.300 --> 02:02.800 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% KIMBERLY HOWELL: We see Jasson about three times a year. It's about an eight-and-a-half-hour 02:07.100 --> 02:09.500 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% journey there. 02:09.500 --> 02:13.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% DALE HOWELL: It's a horrible thing to experience. And it wouldn't be so bad if it was just Kim 02:15.033 --> 02:19.166 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and I. But, usually, we have got four little ones' hands and taking them in as well. And 02:20.333 --> 02:22.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they shouldn't have to experience that either. 02:22.300 --> 02:25.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MARCUS HOWELL: The hardest part about seeing her dad is just knowing he can't come home 02:25.233 --> 02:27.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% with us that day. 02:27.233 --> 02:30.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JASSON HOWELL JR., 13 Years Old: The best part about seeing my dad is remembering, like, 02:30.133 --> 02:35.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% all the good times that we have and that there's a lot more good times to come. 02:37.100 --> 02:40.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% KIMBERLY HOWELL: The most difficult thing is not being able to take my son home when 02:43.133 --> 02:48.133 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% we go and visit. He's my firstborn, and he's always been my buddy. 02:50.100 --> 02:52.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% DALE HOWELL: He's taken different classes in there. He's taken parenting classes. 02:52.266 --> 02:56.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% KIMBERLY HOWELL: I have seen a huge change in him. 02:56.166 --> 03:01.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% DALE HOWELL: He is learning through this rehab program in there to open up, to have to be 03:03.566 --> 03:05.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% accountable. He's had to reach out and say things to his children that he probably wouldn't 03:05.533 --> 03:07.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% have on his own, make apologies. 03:07.666 --> 03:12.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MARCUS HOWELL: My grandparents, they have raised us for a while, and I feel they have 03:14.066 --> 03:16.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% taken over the role as parents, at least for now. 03:16.066 --> 03:20.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% DALE HOWELL: I used to feel like, oh, we got our grandkids. Don't feel that way anymore. 03:22.466 --> 03:24.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% We get to live with them. 03:24.433 --> 03:28.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% They have taught us so much. That addiction that has affected them, I still see it, and 03:30.633 --> 03:34.566 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I wonder what they could have been or what they would have been or maybe what to only 03:34.566 --> 03:36.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% get to be because of what they have gone through. 03:36.600 --> 03:41.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% KIMBERLY HOWELL: Whenever the phone rings, I look to see if it says restricted on it, 03:42.333 --> 03:43.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% because then I know it's him. 03:43.566 --> 03:44.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% COMPUTER VOICE: This call is from. 03:44.766 --> 03:46.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% JASSON HOWELL SR., Inmate: Jasson Howell. 03:46.200 --> 03:47.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% COMPUTER VOICE: An inmate at a federal prison. 03:47.133 --> 03:48.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% JASSON HOWELL SR.: Hello? 03:48.066 --> 03:50.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% KIMBERLY HOWELL: Hi, buddy. 03:50.100 --> 03:52.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JASSON HOWELL SR.: Glad I made the call, because I tried -- I tried making it. 03:52.333 --> 03:54.433 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (LAUGHTER) 03:54.433 --> 03:57.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% KIMBERLY HOWELL: I know you did, honey. I know you did. So how did work go? 03:57.933 --> 04:02.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JASSON HOWELL SR.: Work was OK. We had a little holiday meal today, so it was a little better 04:04.100 --> 04:05.100 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% than normal. 04:05.100 --> 04:06.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% JASSON HOWELL JR.: Hello? 04:06.333 --> 04:07.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% JASSON HOWELL SR.: What's up buddy? 04:07.266 --> 04:09.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% JASSON HOWELL JR.: Nothing much. 04:09.166 --> 04:11.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I'm looking forward to spending time with my dad and just, like, messing around and 04:11.866 --> 04:13.100 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% goofing around. 04:13.100 --> 04:15.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% KIMBERLY HOWELL: OK, here's Marcus. 04:15.233 --> 04:20.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% The most exciting thing is, when my son gets out, he will be able to see his oldest, Marcus, 04:21.833 --> 04:23.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% graduate. 04:23.233 --> 04:25.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JASSON HOWELL SR.: It is snowing out there at all, or no? 04:25.233 --> 04:29.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MARCUS HOWELL: It was this morning. It's slowed down for a little bit. 04:29.033 --> 04:34.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I just want to be able to do things with him and see him and not have any restrictions 04:34.500 --> 04:36.500 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% to that. 04:36.500 --> 04:39.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% KIMBERLY HOWELL: We have shared the sentence with our son. It's been a long journey. 04:39.333 --> 04:43.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% DALE HOWELL: The joy that comes to our hearts knowing he's going to get out, it's also a 04:43.633 --> 04:47.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% mixed bag, because that drug is tough one. 04:47.333 --> 04:52.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% You hear about people relapsing all the time. We hope that he will have this licked forever, 04:54.300 --> 04:58.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% but also, in the back of our mind, Kim and I both still kind of worry, do we have it? 05:03.133 --> 05:07.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Do we get to stop worrying now? Are things going to be OK now? Is he telling the truth 05:07.466 --> 05:08.466 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% now? 05:08.466 --> 05:11.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And I guess time will tell. 05:11.933 --> 05:13.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% My name is Dale Howell. 05:13.133 --> 05:14.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% KIMBERLY HOWELL: My name is Kimberly Howell. 05:14.833 --> 05:17.733 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% DALE HOWELL: And this has been our Brief But Spectacular take... 05:17.733 --> 05:19.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% KIMBERLY HOWELL: ... on our family. 05:19.766 --> 05:21.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JASSON HOWELL SR.: Well, I hope you guys have a good day, buddy. I just wanted to make sure 05:21.266 --> 05:22.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I can call and touch base with you guys. I love you a lot. 05:22.233 --> 05:24.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MARCUS HOWELL: I love you, too. 05:24.233 --> 05:27.400 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% KIMBERLY HOWELL: We love you, too, buddy. Have a great day, OK? 05:27.400 --> 05:28.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% COMPUTER VOICE: This call is from a federal prison. 05:28.900 --> 05:31.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% KIMBERLY HOWELL: Have a... 05:31.733 --> 05:36.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JASSON HOWELL SR.: All right, I'll talk to you later. 05:37.866 --> 05:38.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% KIMBERLY HOWELL: OK, honey. Bye-bye. 05:38.800 --> 05:39.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% JASSON HOWELL SR.: OK. Bye. 05:39.600 --> 05:40.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% KIMBERLY HOWELL: Bye. 05:40.533 --> 05:42.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: What a story. 05:42.600 --> 05:44.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And we have an update on this piece. Dozens of inmates and staff members at the federal 05:44.666 --> 05:46.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% correctional institution in Milan, Michigan, where Jasson Howell is serving time, have 05:47.733 --> 05:49.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% been infected with COVID-19. 05:49.833 --> 05:54.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% There have been at least five deaths. Howell is expected to be released this November, 05:56.800 --> 05:59.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% after completing a drug abuse program. However, due to the virus, he can no longer take the 06:00.700 --> 06:05.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% required classes.