1 00:00:02,066 --> 00:00:04,600 JUDY WOODRUFF: As we discussed with Senator Bernie Sanders, college debt is a huge problem 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,333 in our country. 3 00:00:06,333 --> 00:00:10,633 Roughly two-thirds of students finish school owing nearly $30,000. 4 00:00:12,066 --> 00:00:14,666 Sanders is not alone in his call for free public college. 5 00:00:14,666 --> 00:00:19,600 Many of the 2020 presidential candidates have started laying out their own plans. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,600 As those ideas take shape, a number of states and cities are creating their own plans to 7 00:00:27,133 --> 00:00:30,100 provide grants and money for the very youngest to ensure that they can eventually go to college. 8 00:00:31,533 --> 00:00:34,866 Hari Sreenivasan has the story for tonight's Making the Grade. 9 00:00:34,866 --> 00:00:39,766 And it's part of a special series on Tuesdays this month about Rethinking College. 10 00:00:39,766 --> 00:00:44,733 HARI SREENIVASAN: Just days' old, this newborn has already started saving for college. 11 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,600 Under a new Pennsylvania program, every baby born or adopted in the state is given a college 12 00:00:51,766 --> 00:00:54,733 savings account with $100 in his or her name. 13 00:00:54,733 --> 00:00:57,433 JOE TORSELLA, Pennsylvania State Treasurer: That $100 is invested in our 529 account, 14 00:00:57,433 --> 00:00:59,100 and will grow over time. 15 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:02,766 HARI SREENIVASAN: So 140,000 kids a year are born in Pennsylvania? 16 00:01:02,766 --> 00:01:05,233 JOE TORSELLA: Yes. 17 00:01:05,233 --> 00:01:07,733 HARI SREENIVASAN: The accounts are the brainchild of Pennsylvania State Treasurer Joe Torsella. 18 00:01:07,733 --> 00:01:12,233 The new program, called Keystone Scholars, is an effort to help future students cope 19 00:01:12,233 --> 00:01:14,300 with skyrocketing costs of college. 20 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:18,800 JOE TORSELLA: Over roughly 30 years, the cost of higher ed has gone up in this country around 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,866 300 percent, while the median family income has basically not budged . 22 00:01:22,866 --> 00:01:27,866 HARI SREENIVASAN: According to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Americans owe $1.46 23 00:01:28,733 --> 00:01:30,833 trillion in student debt. 24 00:01:30,833 --> 00:01:34,733 Treasurer Torsella says Pennsylvania student debt burden is particularly troubling. 25 00:01:34,733 --> 00:01:35,900 JOE TORSELLA: I love my state. 26 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:37,933 I'm a proud Pennsylvania. 27 00:01:37,933 --> 00:01:40,400 And I love it when I can say we're number one, except when the thing we're number one 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,700 in is college debt. 29 00:01:42,700 --> 00:01:44,266 We currently lead the nation in that. 30 00:01:44,266 --> 00:01:47,266 Our average graduate has about $36,000. 31 00:01:47,266 --> 00:01:52,233 HARI SREENIVASAN: Born January 18, Charlie Ross (ph) was one of the first babies to benefit 32 00:01:53,133 --> 00:01:55,066 from the statewide program. 33 00:01:55,066 --> 00:01:57,100 Kristin Dressler is Charlie's mom. 34 00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:59,333 KRISTIN DRESSLER, Mother: It was something I wish my parents had done for me when I was, 35 00:01:59,333 --> 00:02:00,666 like, a baby. 36 00:02:00,666 --> 00:02:02,666 And I think it's a really good idea. 37 00:02:02,666 --> 00:02:05,200 HARI SREENIVASAN: Pennsylvania is betting that parents will be less likely to delay 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,100 saving for college if accounts are automatically created at birth. 39 00:02:09,100 --> 00:02:12,900 JOE TORSELLA: There is a time when a child is born you always remember for the sense 40 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:15,000 of magic and possibility. 41 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,766 Life quickly takes over, with all kinds of demands. 42 00:02:17,766 --> 00:02:22,766 We wanted to do something at that moment when people are looking at their newborn or their 43 00:02:25,166 --> 00:02:28,700 newly adopted child, and they had the widest horizon and the widest sense of those possibilities. 44 00:02:30,633 --> 00:02:33,366 HARI SREENIVASAN: Dressler took out a loan to pay for her first two years of college 45 00:02:33,366 --> 00:02:36,400 and will take out more to complete her degree. 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,533 She wants an easier path for her son's education. 47 00:02:38,533 --> 00:02:41,833 KRISTIN DRESSLER: I'm hoping that he doesn't have to worry about that. 48 00:02:41,833 --> 00:02:45,366 HARI SREENIVASAN: But if the average debt load in Pennsylvania for college graduates 49 00:02:45,366 --> 00:02:49,566 is $33,000, can $100 really make a difference? 50 00:02:49,566 --> 00:02:51,666 JOE TORSELLA: That $100 grows to $400. 51 00:02:51,666 --> 00:02:56,466 And if they deposit $25 a month from the time that child's born in an account with it, they 52 00:02:57,933 --> 00:03:01,366 will have more than $10,000 by that time that child reaches 18. 53 00:03:01,366 --> 00:03:06,366 HARI SREENIVASAN: Pennsylvania's new accounts are funded through surplus earnings from the 54 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:11,533 state's existing 529 college program. 55 00:03:12,933 --> 00:03:15,100 Like all 529 accounts, the money is earmarked for education. 56 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:20,100 If an individual wants to use the funds for other purposes, they face tax consequences, 57 00:03:21,666 --> 00:03:25,700 and any money the state contributed is returned to a general fund. 58 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:27,666 Pennsylvania is not alone. 59 00:03:27,666 --> 00:03:30,700 Plans to help families save for college are popping up across the country. 60 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:35,233 In San Francisco, every child when they enter public school gets a new bank account with 61 00:03:35,233 --> 00:03:37,233 $50 in it. 62 00:03:37,233 --> 00:03:41,433 So far, they have opened more than 33,000 accounts in their kindergarten-to-college 63 00:03:41,433 --> 00:03:43,366 program. 64 00:03:43,366 --> 00:03:44,266 JOYCE MELOCOTON, Teacher: Are you guys excited for your field trip? 65 00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:45,500 STUDENTS: Yes! 66 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:46,666 JOYCE MELOCOTON: Where are we going again? 67 00:03:46,666 --> 00:03:48,800 STUDENTS: The bank. 68 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,833 HARI SREENIVASAN: At San Francisco's William Cobb Elementary School, teacher Joyce Melocoton 69 00:03:51,833 --> 00:03:54,766 prepares her kindergarten class for a field trip to the bank. 70 00:03:54,766 --> 00:03:59,500 JOYCE MELOCOTON: We're going to the bank because you have to deposit money for what? 71 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:00,500 STUDENTS: College. 72 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:01,900 JOYCE MELOCOTON: College. 73 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:03,500 OK. 74 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:06,200 And if you start saving now, then you will be ready for college. 75 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,666 HARI SREENIVASAN: On this day, kindergarten students were joined by San Francisco Treasurer 76 00:04:10,666 --> 00:04:13,733 Jose Cisneros at Citibank, a partner in the program. 77 00:04:13,733 --> 00:04:16,900 JOSE CISNEROS, San Francisco Treasurer: We put $50 in your account. 78 00:04:16,900 --> 00:04:20,266 You already have money saved for your college education. 79 00:04:20,266 --> 00:04:24,500 HARI SREENIVASAN: Fifty dollars is not much, but Treasurer Cisneros says creating an early 80 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:29,433 perception about going to college is just as important as creating actual wealth. 81 00:04:29,433 --> 00:04:34,433 JOSE CISNEROS: What matters less is how much money is in the account and -- or what the 82 00:04:35,166 --> 00:04:37,633 income of the family is. 83 00:04:37,633 --> 00:04:41,333 It's all about building aspirations in the student's mind and making sure they know this 84 00:04:41,333 --> 00:04:43,433 is an option that is available for them. 85 00:04:43,433 --> 00:04:45,433 STUDENT: I would like to make a deposit. 86 00:04:45,433 --> 00:04:46,733 JOSE CISNEROS: To my college savings account. 87 00:04:46,733 --> 00:04:48,433 STUDENT: To my college savings account. 88 00:04:48,433 --> 00:04:51,233 JOSE CISNEROS: You need to give her the money and the deposit ticket. 89 00:04:51,233 --> 00:04:55,033 HARI SREENIVASAN: Half of San Francisco's public school students come from low-income 90 00:04:55,033 --> 00:04:57,133 families. 91 00:04:57,133 --> 00:05:00,500 And while all students receive an account, Cisneros hopes to engage families less likely 92 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:02,533 to attend college. 93 00:05:02,533 --> 00:05:06,033 JOSE CISNEROS: Just engaging with that account, going to the bank, making deposits, talking 94 00:05:06,033 --> 00:05:11,033 about it at home, maybe talking about it with friends, sends a signal that says, oh, I have 95 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:14,500 got a college savings account. 96 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:15,500 Why? 97 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:17,533 Because I'm going to college. 98 00:05:17,533 --> 00:05:22,266 And for many kids who don't have that in their childhood, that kind of conversation, that 99 00:05:24,333 --> 00:05:28,433 kind of influence, it turns out not being something they think is available to them. 100 00:05:30,933 --> 00:05:33,633 HARI SREENIVASAN: But so far, only 20 percent of families in San Francisco have made additional 101 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,600 deposits in their child's kindergarten-to-college accounts. 102 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,900 Professor Brigitte Madrian is an expert on family savings and the dean of Brigham Young 103 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:44,966 University Marriott School of Business. 104 00:05:44,966 --> 00:05:47,066 BRIGITTE MADRIAN, Dean, Brigham Young University Marriott School of Business: Parents who are 105 00:05:47,066 --> 00:05:49,933 actually contributing money is pretty low, so it's going to take more than just automatic. 106 00:05:51,933 --> 00:05:55,533 HARI SREENIVASAN: Madrian says automatic savings accounts, set up for things like retirement, 107 00:05:57,433 --> 00:06:01,566 have been hugely successful when tied to payroll deductions. 108 00:06:01,566 --> 00:06:06,066 But she's less confident that automatic college accounts will be work when families are asked 109 00:06:06,066 --> 00:06:08,100 to make contributions on their own. 110 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:12,833 BRIGITTE MADRIAN: Households have a lot of things for which they probably should be saving, 111 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:18,833 and short-term financial needs may be taking precedence over longer-term needs, like saving 112 00:06:21,366 --> 00:06:22,600 for your children's college. 113 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,133 MAN: Can anybody say safe deposit box? 114 00:06:25,133 --> 00:06:28,900 HARI SREENIVASAN: The annual cost of San Francisco's program is three quarters of a million dollars. 115 00:06:28,900 --> 00:06:33,900 BRIGITTE MADRIAN: Is it more cost-effective to direct those same financial resources that 116 00:06:35,866 --> 00:06:39,100 are coming from government to early kindergarten readiness programs, smaller class sizes in 117 00:06:40,833 --> 00:06:42,900 K-12? 118 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:47,000 Which one gives you more bang for the buck I think is still a very open question. 119 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,966 HARI SREENIVASAN: As for the William Cobb Elementary students, the most popular future 120 00:06:50,966 --> 00:06:53,600 career cited on this field trip, superhero. 121 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,866 WOMAN: So what do you want to be when you grow up? 122 00:06:55,866 --> 00:06:57,966 STUDENT: A superhero. 123 00:06:57,966 --> 00:07:01,866 HARI SREENIVASAN: Six-year-old Xavier Ochoa said he wants to be Batman when he grows up, 124 00:07:03,066 --> 00:07:04,300 but he also got the message of the day. 125 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:05,733 JOSE CISNEROS: I would like to make a deposit. 126 00:07:05,733 --> 00:07:06,933 XAVIER OCHOA, Student: I would like to make a deposit. 127 00:07:06,933 --> 00:07:10,333 JOSE CISNEROS: In my college savings account. 128 00:07:10,333 --> 00:07:15,333 XAVIER OCHOA: In my college savings account. 129 00:07:16,833 --> 00:07:18,566 JOSE CISNEROS: Here's your receipt. 130 00:07:18,566 --> 00:07:19,566 OK. 131 00:07:19,566 --> 00:07:20,566 Say thank you. 132 00:07:20,566 --> 00:07:22,533 XAVIER OCHOA: Thank you. 133 00:07:22,533 --> 00:07:23,333 I want to get money for college, so I can learn more things, and so you can learn when 134 00:07:23,333 --> 00:07:24,833 you want to grow up. 135 00:07:24,833 --> 00:07:24,966 HARI SREENIVASAN: For the "PBS NewsHour," I'm Hari Sreenivasan.