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JUDY WOODRUFF: Public outcry 
and calls for arrests in the 
killing of an African-American

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man in Georgia more than two 
months ago are intensifying.

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As Yamiche Alcindor reports 
for our Race Matters 
series, the case drew 
widespread public attention

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after a video of the shooting 
was released earlier this week.

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Since then, 
Judy, the nation has become 
familiar with this name, Ahmaud

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Arbery. He was a 25-year-old 
black man chased and killed by 
at least two white men as he

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was jogging in a Georgia 
neighborhood on February 23.

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Two of those men, Gregory 
McMichael and Travis 
McMichael, said they 
pursued him because they

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believed he looked like a 
suspect in recent burglaries. 
Arbery was unarmed.

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The video shot from behind 
seems to show Arbery was trying 
to go around their truck. They

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then confronted him and later 
shot him. They told police 
he attacked them as they were

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trying to hold him 
and wait for police.

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His father, Marcus Arbery 
and his attorney, Benjamin 
Crump, join me now.

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Thanks so much for 
being here, both of you.

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Mr. Arbery, Ahmaud was your 
baby son. He was your youngest. 
He was also an athlete. He

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liked to run.

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Tell me a little bit about how 
often he ran the route that he 
ran in that Georgia neighborhood

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and whether or not he had any 
reason to fear for his life.

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MARCUS ARBERY, Father 
of Ahmaud Arbery: Well, 
he ran all the time.

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Everybody know he ran all the 
time. So I don't see why this 
happened to him, because that's

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all he did is ran and work out. 
He ran like three, four, five 
miles a day. Everybody know

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he ran.

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I don't know why they racially 
profile him and done him 
like that, because all he did

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is work out and ran and just 
took care of his body, because 
he had dreams now. Now all

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his dreams are gone, because 
they took his life for nothing.

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: How familiar 
was this neighborhood to 
your son in particular?

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MARCUS ARBERY: He stayed right 
across the street. His mother 
had a house right across

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the street from 
that neighborhood.

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Ahmaud 
was very familiar with this 
neighborhood? He ran there often

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and ran this route often?

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MARCUS ARBERY: Yes, ma'am.

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Gregory 
McMichael followed your son 
because he said he looked like a

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burglary suspect.

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Ahmaud's mother also said that 
the police told her that her 
son and your son was killed

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during -- in the commission 
of a burglary and during a 
burglary and a struggle.

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What do you make of that, 
especially the police saying 
that about your child?

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MARCUS ARBERY: Well, they 
just -- it's just a lie 
and a cover-up, trying 
to justify everything

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when they're wrong.

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They know they done got caught 
up and they're wrong. The video 
speaking everything for itself.

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Check that lynch mob out. It's 
a lynch mob. So they're trying 
to cover up when they done

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messed up. They have been 
doing that for years.

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Corruption in this town is real 
bad with African-Americans. 
So he's been lynched. 
The video speak loud

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and plain as day. So, do their 
homework and do your job. 
Arrest these terrible people.

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Get them out of this -- get them 
off the streets, before they 
try to lynch anybody else kid.

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Get them off the streets. They 
need to be behind bars for 
a long, long, long time. Get

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them off the streets.

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We just want justice, and get 
them off the streets, because 
there ain't no room for them,

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not in a small town like this.

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Mr. 
Arbery is talking about 
a modern-day lynching.

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We have now seen two 
prosecutors recuse themselves. 
A third prosecutor says 
this needs to go to

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a grand jury. What do you want 
to see legally happened here? 
And do you believe there's

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any sort of arrest 
that might happen?

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BENJAMIN CRUMP, Attorney for 
Marcus Arbery: I do, Yamiche.

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The Georgia Bureau of 
Investigations has now 
taken over the case. 
And they have told us

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that they're going to 
look at the case with 
fresh eyes. We asked them 
not to rely on anything

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from the local officials from 
that Southeastern Georgia law 
enforcement community, because

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they are too close to 
Gregory McMichael, who 
worked as a former police 
officer and a detective

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for the district attorney 
for over 30 years.

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And so, if they look at it 
with fresh eyes, then they will 
have probable cause, simply

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based on this video that shows 
this horrific execution of 
Marcus' baby boy, his youngest

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son, who would celebrate 
his birthday tomorrow, 
had they not murdered him.

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And so we believe that they have 
the probable cause to arrest 
these -- I can't even think

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a father and son, a murderous 
duo. They have the probable 
cause right now to arrest them

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for the murder of Ahmaud Arbery.

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Do you also 
want to see a third man charged 
in this case, Mr. Crump?

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Do you want to see the 
man who shot the video 
also charged and arrested?

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BENJAMIN CRUMP: Certainly.

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The person who was in the 
vehicle helping them to chase 
Ahmaud Arbery just because the

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color of his skin, 
because we don't buy 
any of this allegation 
that he was committing

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a burglary. There's 
no evidence of that.

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He had a T-shirt on and 
shorts. He didn't have burglary 
tools or a mask or anything.

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He was simply a young man 
exercising. And as Mr. Marcus 
has said on many of occasions,

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if this was him and his 
son or mine, and they 
got on a truck with a 
shotgun and a .357 Magnum,

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and they chased a young white 
man who was jogging through the 
community in broad daylight,

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and he ended up dead, they 
would be arrested immediately.

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And anybody who aided 
and abetted them, anybody 
who videotaped them, 
or anybody who was with

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them would also be held 
accountable. So, why do we have 
two justice systems in America,

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one for blacks America 
and one for white America?

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Mr. Arbery, 
Trayvon Martin was killed on 
February 26, 2012. Your son

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was killed on February 23. They 
were -- they would have been 
almost the same age had they

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both lived.

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Did you talk to your son 
about Trayvon Martin? 
Did he understand and 
talk about this national

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conversation that we have 
been having around racism?

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MARCUS ARBERY: Yes. Yes. Yes. 
I talk to my children about 
that all the time. And they

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all thought that Trayvon 
Martin was murdered too.

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My children know. All three 
of them know. They know.

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Tell me about 
that. Tell me more how you 
talked to your son about Trayvon

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Martin.

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MARCUS ARBERY: I just told him 
that racism is pretty deep when 
you're a black African-American.

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You just got to -- you just 
can't fall in their hands, 
because they really set you up

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when you're racially profiled. 
They set you up to lure you 
where they want you at, and

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then they take your life. 
That's race and hate. I always 
told my kids about that kind

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of stuff.

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(CROSSTALK)

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: And what 
do you want the nation 
to know about your son?

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MARCUS ARBERY: Yes, I just 
want the nation to know that he 
was a good boy, well-mannered,

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and he just loved the people.

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You know, he was the kind of 
young man that, if you needed a 
dollar, and he had one dollar,

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he gave it to you.

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: And 
now you want to see 
justice for your son?

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MARCUS ARBERY: Definitely.

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I just want to see this lynch 
mob behind bars, where they 
belong at, because if you don't

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put them behind bars, where they 
belong, they're going to find 
a way to kill again. And there

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ain't no room for that in 
this little small town.

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Well, 
Mr. Arbery, Mr. Crump, 
thank you so much for 
joining me. I appreciate

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you both coming on.

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MARCUS ARBERY: Thank you.

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BENJAMIN CRUMP: 
Thank you, Yamiche.

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JUDY WOODRUFF: And a note: We 
are reaching out to police, 
prosecutors, and the McMichaels

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to see if they will speak to 
us as well in coming days.