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>> Sreenivasan: FOR NEARLY 25

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YEARS, THE BAND WILCO HAS BEEN

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BENDING THE EDGES OF ROCK,

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COUNTRY AND INDEPENDENT MUSIC.

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LONG A CRITICAL DARLING, THE

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GROUP HAS BUILT A LEGION OF FANS

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WITHOUT EVER SCORING A TOP TEN

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HIT.

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BUT WITH HIS NEW MEMOIR, THE

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SINGER, SONGWRITER AND WILCO

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FRONTMAN JEFF TWEEDY APPEARS TO

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HAVE A LITERARY HIT ON HIS

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HANDS.

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NEWSHOUR WEEKEND'S CHRISTOPHER

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BOOKER RECENTLY SAT DOWN WITH

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TWEEDY IN WILCO'S CHICAGO LOFT-

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STUDIO TO DISCUSS A MUSICAL

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CAREER SPENT WELL OUTSIDE THE

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USUAL BOUNDARIES.

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♪ ♪ ♪

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♪ I DON'T EVER WANT A MOVIE OF

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THE GOSPEL... ♪

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>> Reporter: EVEN AFTER

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RECORDING NEARLY 20 ALBUMS,

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WINNING TWO GRAMMYS, AND WRITING

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A NEARLY 300-PAGE MEMOIR, TRYING

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TO EXPLAIN WHERE IT ALL COMES

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FROM REMAINS AN ELUSIVE TASK FOR

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SINGER-SONGWRITER JEFF TWEEDY.

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>> IT'S ALL MYSTERIOUS STILL.

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I CAN'T EVEN EXPLAIN HOW PEOPLE

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CAN WHISTLE IN TUNE, YOU KNOW?

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I THINK, LIKE, YOU COULD READ

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EVERYTHING THAT I SAY

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AUTHORITATIVELY IN THE BOOK

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WITH A, "HUH?," YOU KNOW.

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YOU COULD PUT A QUESTION MARK AT

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THE END OF MOST OF THOSE

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SENTENCES.

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♪ I LEAN ON A WALL

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LIKE A BROOM, CONFUSED

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>> Reporter: TWEEDY'S MEMOIR,

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"LET'S GO (SO WE CAN GET BACK),"

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IS AN EXPLORATION OF CREATIVITY,

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MOTIVATION AND HERITAGE-- THE

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STORY OF A CHILD OF AN ALCOHOLIC

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FATHER; THE STARTS AND STOPS OF

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MUSICAL STARDOM; AND THE

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STRUGGLE AGAINST ANXIETY,

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DEPRESSION AND ADDICTION.

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IN A LOT OF WAYS, THE BOOK ISN'T

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JUST WORKING TO PULL BACK THE

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CURTAIN BUT ALMOST REMOVE THE

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CURTAIN ALL TOGETHER.

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>> YEAH, I REJECT THE PREMISE OF

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THE CURTAIN TO BEGIN WITH.

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I'VE ALWAYS FELT LIKE THE MORE

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HUMAN THE MUSICIANS THAT I LOVE

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HAVE BECOME TO ME, THE MORE I

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HAVE FELT EMPOWERED TO BE A...

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A MUSICIAN OR AN ARTIST.

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>> Reporter: THE YOUNGEST OF

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FOUR KIDS, TWEEDY WAS RAISED IN

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BELLEVILLE, ILLINOIS, AN OLD

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MANUFACTURING TOWN ABOUT 20

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MILES OUTSIDE OF ST. LOUIS.

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HIS FATHER WORKED FOR THE

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RAILROAD, HIS MOTHER DESIGNED

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KITCHENS FOR A LOCAL CABINET

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MANUFACTURER.

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>> MY MOM AND DAD WERE BOTH

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REALLY, REALLY SMART, AND IT WAS

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RECOGNIZED, BUT NOT IN THE

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TRADITIONAL WAY, YOU KNOW.

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THAT'S THE THING I'VE REALLY

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LOOKED BACK AND PROBABLY PUT

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TOGETHER FOR THE FIRST TIME

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IN... TIME IN MY LIFE RECENTLY

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IS, LIKE, "OH, I'VE... I'VE HAD

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A LIFE VERY SIMILAR TO THEM."

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I DIDN'T REALLY MAKE IT MUCH

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PAST HIGH SCHOOL, BUT I TAUGHT

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MYSELF A TRADE.

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>> Reporter: TWEEDY'S TRADE

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STARTED WITH A LOVE OF PUNK

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ROCK-- BANDS LIKE THE RAMONES,

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THE CLASH AND THE MINUTEMEN.

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A BICYCLE ACCIDENT KEPT HIM

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INDOORS FOR AN ENTIRE SUMMER.

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TO PASS THE TIME, HE PICKED UP

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THE GUITAR STASHED IN HIS

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CLOSET.

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AS A TEENAGER, HE PLAYED IN A

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NUMBER OF BANDS BEFORE CO-

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FOUNDING UNCLE TUPELO, A

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CRITICAL DARLING OF THE EARLY

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'90s CREDITED WITH SPAWNING AN

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ENTIRE NEW GENRE OF MUSIC: ALT-

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COUNTRY.

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BUT AFTER FOUR ALBUMS, HIS

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PARTNER AND CHILDHOOD FRIEND,

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JAY FARRAR, ANNOUNCED HE WAS NO

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LONGER INTERESTED IN MAKING

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MUSIC WITH TWEEDY AND THAT HE

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WAS LEAVING THE BAND.

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>> I WAS REALLY HURT BY UNCLE

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TUPELO ENDING THE WAY IT ENDED.

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AND THEN, IT JUST, LIKE, KIND OF

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LIKE A PRACTICAL NOTION OF,

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LIKE, "WELL, NOTHING I CAN DO

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ABOUT THAT NOW.

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THAT'S OVER WITH."

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AND THEN, IT DAWNING ON ME: THAT

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PRESENTS OPPORTUNITY SOMEHOW.

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YOU KNOW, AS A... AS A CHILD

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OF... OF AN ALCOHOLIC OR AN

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ENVIRONMENT OF ALCOHOLISM,

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THERE'S A LOT OF

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UNPREDICTABILITY.

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EVEN THOUGH MY DAD'S ROUTINE WAS

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PREDICTABLE, HIS MOODS WERE

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UNPREDICTABLE.

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WHICH INHIBITS, I THINK, A LOT

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OF FEELING COMFORTABLE WITH YOUR

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PROJECTION OF THE FUTURE.

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THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE IT REALLY

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COMES FROM, IS, LIKE, HAVE...

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HAVING A... HAVING TO ADAPT TO

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YOUR BEST PROJECTION OF THE

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FUTURE NOT REALLY WORKING OUT.

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>> Reporter: FOR TWEEDY, THE

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ADAPTATION THAT FOLLOWED UNCLE

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TUPELO WAS THE FORMATION OF

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WILCO.

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A LOT OF WILCO'S HISTORY IS

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HERE?

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THIS IS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, 20

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YEARS OR SO WE'VE BEEN HERE, AND

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ALMOST EVERYTHING FROM "YANKEE

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HOTEL FOXTROT" ON HAS HAD AT

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LEAST A PART OF THE RECORD

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WORKED ON HERE OR RECORDED HERE.

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♪ SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH A

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DRUMMER

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♪ SHE FELL IN LOVE WITH A

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DRUMMER... ♪

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>> Reporter: BUT AS THE 51-YEAR-

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OLD RECOUNTS, THIS PATH WAS BY

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NO MEANS SIMPLE AND TIDY.

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WHILE THEIR FAN BASE AND

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CRITICAL ACCLAIM GREW STEADILY

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DURING THEIR EARLY YEARS, WILCO

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WAS FAMOUSLY DROPPED BY THEIR

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RECORD LABEL AFTER THEY REFUSED

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TO ALTER 2002'S "YANKEE HOTEL

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FOXTROT."

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THE PROCESS WAS CAPTURED IN THE

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DOCUMENTARY, "I AM TRYING TO

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BREAK YOUR HEART."

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>> ULTIMATELY, WHAT IT CAME DOWN

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TO IS, THEY TOLD JEFF TWEEDY,

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"WE DON'T LIKE YOUR ALBUM, WE

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DON'T WANT TO RELEASE IT."

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>> Reporter: FOR THE BAND, THE

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ALBUM WAS A NEW DIRECTION,

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MOVING FROM THEIR ALT-COUNTRY

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BASE TO EXPERIMENTAL ALTERNATIVE

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ROCK.

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BUT THE LABEL DIDN'T HEAR A HIT

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SINGLE.

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RELEASED ONLINE AND IN STORES

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UNDER A NEW LABEL, THE ALBUM WAS

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CERTIFIED GOLD IN 2002, AND

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"ROLLING STONE" MAGAZINE NOW

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RANKS "YANKEE HOTEL FOXTROT"

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AMONGST THE TOP 500 ALBUMS OF

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ALL-TIME.

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THE SUCCESS OF "YANKEE HOTEL

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FOXTROT" WAS FOLLOWED TWO YEARS

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LATER BY THE GRAMMY-WINNING "A

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GHOST IS BORN," CEMENTING THE

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BAND'S STATUS AS A FORCE IN

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AMERICAN MUSIC.

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BUT THERE WAS LITTLE JOY FOR

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TWEEDY.

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IN THE LATE '90s, HE HAD BEGUN

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TAKING VICODIN, AT FIRST TO

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ALLEVIATE SYMPTOMS FROM

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MIGRAINES, DEPRESSION AND

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ANXIETY.

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BY THE TIME THE BAND ENTERED THE

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STUDIO IN THE FALL OF 2003 TO

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RECORD "A GHOST IS BORN," HE WAS

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BATTLING A FULL-TIME OPIOID

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ADDICTION.

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>> YOU KNOW, 15, 16 YEARS AGO,

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IT USED TO BE ON A NIGHTLY

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BASIS, BEING IN A DEBILITATED

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HEAP, CRYING ON THE FLOOR

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MOMENTS BEFORE WALKING ON STAGE,

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YOU KNOW.

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JUST REALLY, REALLY STRUGGLING

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TO GET THROUGH THE FIRST FEW

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SONGS.

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>> Reporter: UPON COMPLETION OF

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"A GHOST IS BORN," TWEEDY QUIT

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OPIOIDS COLD TURKEY.

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BUT IN THE WEEKS THAT FOLLOWED,

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HE SUFFERED A MENTAL COLLAPSE

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AND CHECKED HIMSELF INTO AN

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INTENSIVE INPATIENT TREATMENT

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CENTER IN CHICAGO.

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DID YOU FIND WRITING THE BOOK

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AND KIND OF CHRONICLING IT THIS

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WAY, DID IT CHANGE THE WAY YOU

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THINK ABOUT YOUR ADDICTION?

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>> NO, I DON'T THINK IT DID.

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I THINK... I'VE HAD THE...

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THAT'S THE THING I'VE THOUGHT

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ABOUT THE MOST FOR THE PAST 15

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YEARS, PROBABLY, IS WHAT I NEED

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TO DO NEXT TO STAY HEALTHY OR TO

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STAY SOBER, OR HOWEVER YOU WANT

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TO PUT IT.

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I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN WHEN

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THINGS GET A LITTLE BIT

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OVERWHELMING, TO SLOW YOURSELF

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DOWN AND... AND THINK OF WHAT

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THE NEXT RIGHT THING TO DO IS.

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AND I HAVE ALL THIS EVIDENCE

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FROM MANY MORE YEARS OF... OF

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MY... OF LIVING THAT REASSURES

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ME I'M... I'M PROBABLY GOING TO

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BE OKAY, I'M PROBABLY GOING TO

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MAKE IT THROUGH THIS.

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>> Reporter: BEING OKAY HAS ALSO

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MEANT BEING PROLIFIC.

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IN THE YEARS SINCE HIS TIME IN

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THE HOSPITAL, WILCO HAS RELEASED

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FIVE STUDIO ALBUMS, LAUNCHED ITS

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OWN MUSIC FESTIVAL IN WESTERN

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MASSACHUSETTS; WHILE JEFF TWEEDY

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HAS ALSO PRODUCED A NUMBER OF

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ALBUMS WITH GOSPEL LEGEND MAVIS

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STAPLES, RELEASED A SOLO ALBUM

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AS WELL AS AN ALBUM WITH HIS

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SIDE PROJECT, TWEEDY, A DUO WITH

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HIS OLDEST SON, SPENCER.

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AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, HE

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WILL RELEASE HIS SECOND SOLO

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ALBUM.

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>> THERE ISN'T, LIKE, A... A

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CAREER GOAL THAT I'M LIKE, "OH,

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I WANT TO ACHIEVE THIS."

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IT'S... I REALLY VERY SIMPLY

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JUST... I LIKE BEING ENGAGED IN

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A CREATIVE PROCESS.

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I FEEL SUSTAINED BY IT.

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I FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT.

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I LOVE THAT FEELING OF BEING

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UNBURDENED BY SELF, OR UN... YOU

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KNOW, YOU CAN REALLY GET IN A

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SUPER MEDITATIVE STATE IN, LIKE,

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IN THE ACT OF CREATION THAT...

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THAT I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO... I

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DON'T FIND IT ANYWHERE ELSE.

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♪