1 00:00:01,833 --> 00:00:04,500 AMNA NAWAZ: Turkey's interior minister said today that over 80,000 buildings 2 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:09,466 in his nation were either destroyed or have become uninhabitable after last week's quake. 3 00:00:09,466 --> 00:00:14,466 The situation across the border in Syria is dire for the millions left homeless, so many of whom 4 00:00:17,033 --> 00:00:20,700 already suffered greatly through nearly 12 years of war. Supplying shelter and aid is a prime focus 5 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:27,133 there now. But, remarkably, people are still being pulled from the rubble after a week-and-a-half. 6 00:00:29,666 --> 00:00:32,633 Another miraculous rescue. Mustafa Avci was pulled from the rubble in Antakya after than 10 days. 7 00:00:38,833 --> 00:00:43,800 His first phone call was to his brother. 8 00:00:46,833 --> 00:00:49,433 "I would die to see you smile," he told him. 9 00:00:51,266 --> 00:00:56,100 But most hope has faded elsewhere. In Kahramanamaras, the epicenter of the 10 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:01,366 second quake, families finally found their loved ones, only to bury them. 11 00:01:01,366 --> 00:01:06,366 HUSEYIN AKIS, Turkish Earthquake Survivor (through translator): We waited by the fire 12 00:01:08,266 --> 00:01:11,766 for 10 days to get the bodies our family members from under the rubble, 10 days. 13 00:01:13,366 --> 00:01:17,933 AMNA NAWAZ: Turkey is grieving and praying for those dead and alive. 14 00:01:21,766 --> 00:01:24,833 Across the border in Idlib city in Northwest Syria, 15 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:31,200 9-year-old Nour Mohammed has been alone at this hospital since the earthquake. Today, 16 00:01:32,666 --> 00:01:36,433 she's being taken to her father, their first embrace in 11 days. 17 00:01:39,633 --> 00:01:44,633 In the tent city of Salqin, thousands of Syrian families now left to live in the ruins. 18 00:01:48,566 --> 00:01:53,533 There's hunger and a childhood scarred. Mohammed Ali and his children were lucky to survive, 19 00:01:59,966 --> 00:02:04,933 but nothing much is left of their home. They have lost 27 members of their family. 20 00:02:08,133 --> 00:02:13,133 The remaining survivors live in this tiny tent, 17 men, women and children, 21 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:17,200 everything they now own piled in this corner. 22 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,400 MOHAMMED ALI, Syrian Earthquake Survivor (through translator): We need tents to use as makeshift 23 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:26,400 bathrooms. We have not cooked a single meal since the earthquake. The first day or two, 24 00:02:27,566 --> 00:02:29,800 they brought us meals. Since then, it's closed, 25 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,400 and they have given us nothing. We need gas, things to cook with. 26 00:02:35,333 --> 00:02:38,933 AMNA NAWAZ: At the tent next door, 25-year-old Absi Ahmed Obeid and his aunt, Zahra Abidi, 27 00:02:41,333 --> 00:02:46,333 struggle to care for his 4-month-old. He's all they have left. Ahmed lost his 28 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,233 parents and sister. His wife is seriously injured. 29 00:02:50,233 --> 00:02:53,733 ABSI AHMED OBEID, Syrian Earthquake Survivor (through translator): We need everything. What 30 00:02:53,733 --> 00:02:58,700 can I tell you? I'm in this tent, and all we have is a heater, no food, not drinks, 31 00:03:01,266 --> 00:03:03,800 nothing. I left barefoot. I didn't take anything from the building I lived in. It's all rubble. 32 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,400 ZAHRA ABIDI, Syrian Earthquake Survivor (through translator): We don't have milk 33 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,700 for this child. We don't have anything but this tent. Some people gave some 34 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:16,533 rice that we made starch from for the child to eat. We don't matter. 35 00:03:16,533 --> 00:03:20,433 We are used to it, but not our children. We need things like milk, 36 00:03:20,433 --> 00:03:23,433 diapers, warm clothes, and health services. 37 00:03:23,433 --> 00:03:27,233 AMNA NAWAZ: The needs are enormous, 38 00:03:27,233 --> 00:03:32,233 but hopes have long since dwindled for these Syrians displaced by yet another calamity. 39 00:03:34,833 --> 00:03:39,833 For more on this, we turn to Dr. Zaher Sahloul, president and co-founder of MedGlobal, 40 00:03:42,766 --> 00:03:47,400 an organization that provides medical support to conflict zones around the world. He was 41 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,400 raised in Syria, went to medical school there, came to the United States in the early 1990s. 42 00:03:54,966 --> 00:03:57,433 Dr. Sahloul, welcome. And thank you for joining us. Tell us a little bit about what your team is 43 00:04:00,066 --> 00:04:03,366 doing right now, what they are able to do on the ground in Syria and what additional aid is needed 44 00:04:05,233 --> 00:04:06,033 DR. ZAHER SAHLOUL, President, MedGlobal: Thank you, Amna, for having me. 45 00:04:07,966 --> 00:04:11,033 Our team started working right after the earthquake. We have a team of 200 doctors 46 00:04:11,033 --> 00:04:16,033 and nurses and humanitarian workers. We run two hospitals and multiple clinics. As you know, 47 00:04:18,033 --> 00:04:22,666 this is an area that has 4.2 million people. Half of them are displaced from other parts 48 00:04:22,666 --> 00:04:27,666 of Syria. So, our surgeons have been doing surgeries nonstop, more than 700 procedures, 49 00:04:28,966 --> 00:04:31,966 between major operations and smaller operations. 50 00:04:31,966 --> 00:04:36,966 We also mobilized a mobile clinic to provide health care services to the 51 00:04:39,033 --> 00:04:42,533 victims of the earthquake that now lost their homes, and they are in temporary 52 00:04:42,533 --> 00:04:47,533 shelters. So they're providing nutritional support for the children and pregnant woman, 53 00:04:49,466 --> 00:04:53,466 medications for patients with chronic diseases, psychosocial support for everyone, 54 00:04:54,866 --> 00:04:56,600 because everyone is traumatized, including our medical team. 55 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,266 AMNA NAWAZ: As you just described, as we just saw in the report, 56 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:02,633 the need is so great. It is so enormous. 57 00:05:02,633 --> 00:05:06,933 We know now there are three border crossings that are open to aid, 58 00:05:06,933 --> 00:05:11,933 after President Bashar al-Assad relented days after the earthquake. Is the aid that's coming, 59 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:14,833 is it enough, and is it going where it needs to go? 60 00:05:14,833 --> 00:05:16,833 DR. ZAHER SAHLOUL: It was too little and too late. 61 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,633 It took more than eight days for the aid to start flowing. And this is in a major disaster, 62 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:28,033 an area that was hit by multiple disasters in the past. As everyone knows, this is an 63 00:05:30,033 --> 00:05:33,500 area that was the place of war for the past 12 years. There is a COVID pandemic for the 64 00:05:35,433 --> 00:05:40,266 past three years or so. There's a cholera outbreak. The weather is freezing cold. 65 00:05:42,666 --> 00:05:45,366 And half of the population are displaced. And now you have this major earthquake, and the area was 66 00:05:47,300 --> 00:05:51,133 not ready for this. The last major earthquake that hit Syria was more than 200 years ago. 67 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:56,833 And the flow started coming, trickling eight days after the earthquake, because 68 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:02,266 the border crossing was closed -- were closed because the damage that happened to the road. 69 00:06:02,266 --> 00:06:07,266 It is also because of the blockage from the Assad regime to the border crossing. 70 00:06:09,266 --> 00:06:12,366 But since it opened, now we have more than 140 U.N. trucks that went through. It is not 71 00:06:16,066 --> 00:06:21,066 enough. And people are feeling deserted by the international community after the earthquake. 72 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,600 AMNA NAWAZ: Now that the aid has started to flow, there are some concerns that President Assad is 73 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,400 exploiting this tragedy, that he's using it as an opportunity to sort 74 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:36,700 of normalize himself and emerge from isolation back onto the global stage. 75 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:38,600 Do you share that concern? 76 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,033 DR. ZAHER SAHLOUL: Clearly, the population in that area feels that way. 77 00:06:42,033 --> 00:06:46,900 This is an area that was bombed by the Assad regime frequently. There is a history 78 00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:51,900 here of the Assad regime weaponizing humanitarian aid. And because of that, 79 00:06:53,766 --> 00:06:57,533 people are fearful in Idlib that, if humanitarian assistance were given 80 00:06:57,533 --> 00:07:01,800 to the Assad regime, then they will end up -- they will end up manipulating it, 81 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:06,100 as they have done in the past, and preventing the population from getting any aid. 82 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:08,733 Right now, the aid is flowing through the three 83 00:07:08,733 --> 00:07:13,633 border crossings, al-Raee, and Bab al-Hawa and Bab al-Salam. And this should continue and should be 84 00:07:15,733 --> 00:07:19,800 sustained, so that, that way, people have access to life-sustaining food, medicine and shelter. 85 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,166 AMNA NAWAZ: So, the problem here -- and this is where I'd love your take -- is, 86 00:07:24,166 --> 00:07:27,933 how can the -- how can the United Nations, how can the U.S. continue 87 00:07:27,933 --> 00:07:32,866 to provide the aid that's needed, and, at the same time, not empower Assad? 88 00:07:32,866 --> 00:07:37,866 DR. ZAHER SAHLOUL: I think our U.S. policy was clear and right, which is basically providing 89 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:45,533 the aid to the population through the local NGOs directly and through the U.N., of course. 90 00:07:45,533 --> 00:07:50,533 Local NGOs should be supported and funded directly by the USAID and other international funders, 91 00:07:52,533 --> 00:07:57,533 because they know what are the needs of the population. They react much faster than the U.N., 92 00:07:59,066 --> 00:08:02,700 as we have proved in this crisis. Many global team and other NGOs 93 00:08:04,300 --> 00:08:07,066 started responding to the crisis a few minutes after the earthquake. 94 00:08:07,066 --> 00:08:12,066 The U.N. took them more than eight days to get there. Unfortunately, what will come after the 95 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,600 first shock from the earthquake will be even worse because of the outbreaks of diseases, 96 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,600 including cholera and other conditions, and because of the malnutrition that will get worse, 97 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,433 and because of the mental health trauma that affected the whole population. 98 00:08:25,433 --> 00:08:30,433 So Syria should be lifted as a priority to the U.S. administration and to the international 99 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:36,733 community. The silver lining of the earthquake, that people are paying more attention to Syria, 100 00:08:38,733 --> 00:08:42,033 and maybe the Biden administration should pay more attention to ending the Syrian crisis 101 00:08:42,033 --> 00:08:47,033 politically and exerted all of its -- exert all of its political diplomatic power to end the crisis. 102 00:08:49,033 --> 00:08:52,200 AMNA NAWAZ: That is Dr. Zaher Sahloul, president and founder of MedGlobal. 103 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,433 Thank you for joining us. 104 00:08:53,433 --> 00:08:54,633 DR. ZAHER SAHLOUL: Thank you.