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HARI SREENIVASAN: Let's turn 
to the continuing fallout and 
reaction to the Harvey Weinstein

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story.

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Yesterday, Weinstein resigned 
from the board of his production 
company following numerous

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revelations of sexual 
harassment and several 
allegations of assault.

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More than three dozen women have 
said Weinstein harassed them. 
While Weinstein has admitted

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to behaving inappropriately, 
he has said he didn't 
physically assault anyone.

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One of those women is Katherine 
Kendall. She was a 23-year-old 
actress who met Weinstein

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in 1993. She alleges that he 
invited her to his apartment 
in New York, where, she says,

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he took off his clothes 
and asked for a massage.

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As other actresses began 
coming forward about 
their painful experiences, 
she also went public

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with her own story.

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She joins me now 
from Los Angeles.

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First, thanks for joining us.

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And I don't want to relive 
something that's painful for 
you, but you are taking a public

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stance on it.

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For people who don't know 
your story, what happened?

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KATHERINE KENDALL, Actress: 
Well, I was you know, a young 
actress, and I had had a formal

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meeting at the Miramax 
office earlier that day.

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And then, at the end of the 
meeting, which I thought went 
really well, he invited me

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to come to screenings. He said: 
"Welcome to the Miramax family. 
You know, come to premieres,

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screenings, et cetera. In fact, 
there's one this afternoon. 
Would you like to come?"

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And I said, "Sure."

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And I ended up going to see a 
movie with him. It ended up just 
being a movie, not a screening,

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but the film "Red Rock West." 
And, you know, that's right 
when I had this sort of sinking

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feeling that something 
wasn't going right.

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And then, after the movie, we 
walked for a few blocks. And 
he said he needed to go up

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to his apartment to get 
something, and would 
I just come with him 
real quick? And I sort

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of said no, and we went back 
and forth on that for a minute. 
It was sort of a negotiation

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with him always, trying to 
sort of stand my ground, but 
then be convinced it was OK.

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I did go into his apartment. 
Once there, we talked for a 
long time about art and movies.

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And I felt like he was 
treating me like an intellect.

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And I felt like the meeting 
was going really well, and sort 
of continued. I didn't feel

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unsafe once I was in there. 
And, at one point, then, he got 
up to go to the bathroom. And

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he came back in a robe and 
asked me to give him a massage.

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And I was extremely 
uncomfortable. And I 
was like, oh, God, no, 
I'm not comfortable with

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that. And we went back 
and forth on that.

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And then he went back to the 
bathroom again, and came back 
this time completely naked.

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And, you know, that changed it 
entirely for me, too. It just 
took it to the next place.

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It was completely disorienting. 
And I was scared, you 
know? I was really scared.

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And then it became sort of a 
cat-and-mouse game of, like, 
how am I going to get out of

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there?

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And I'm -- it's hard to make 
sense of what someone is trying 
to do to you when they're

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fully naked, and they're...

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HARI SREENIVASAN: Yes.

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KATHERINE KENDALL: You know, 
I'm 105 pounds. He's a large 
man standing between me and the

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door.

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And, I mean, I felt 
very resolute, like, I 
will definitely get out 
of here somehow. But

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I'm not -- I'm not sure -- 
I'm not sure what's going to 
happen here. You know, a lot was

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going through my head.

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And he said, well, if you won't 
give me a massage, will you 
at least show me your breasts?

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And it was just -- you know, it 
was, all in all, an extremely 
humiliating experience for

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me.

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And even though I got away, I 
felt like something had still -- 
like something horrible had just

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happened to me.

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HARI SREENIVASAN: You know, 
in the immediate aftermath, 
did you tell someone about it?

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Because you have said before 
that you felt ashamed...

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KATHERINE KENDALL: I did.

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HARI SREENIVASAN: ... even 
though you were the victim.

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KATHERINE KENDALL: I did.

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It's really interesting how 
that happens. And I think -- 
you know, I'm older now, and

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I have done some work on myself. 
And I have learned that a 
lot of people feel that way.

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It's -- it's not -- it wasn't 
just me. But the just me 
feeling that this is my fault,

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this must have only happened 
to me, there's something wrong 
with me, is so common when

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someone perpetrates against you.

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HARI SREENIVASAN: 
What were the...

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KATHERINE KENDALL: And 
I did. I told my mom.

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And I told some good friends. 
But, you know, one of the things 
that happened was, I didn't

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want them to tell anybody. You 
know, people wanted to help 
me, but they didn't know how,

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and I didn't want them to 
try too hard, because I 
didn't want it to backlash.

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I was scared. And I think that 
it's important to remember 
that we don't really come from

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a culture that supports women in 
talking about sexual harassment, 
in my -- in my experience,

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that is. And, you know, 
I just haven't felt like 
it was something I was 
going to get support

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on...

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HARI SREENIVASAN: 
You know, how long...

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KATHERINE KENDALL: ... 
in the bigger picture.

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HARI SREENIVASAN: Yes.

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How long did this feeling 
last? Or, I guess, what are the 
longer-term ripple effects here?

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Did it shake your confidence 
in your abilities?

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KATHERINE KENDALL: I 
think it did. I think 
it did. I think it did.

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I think it made me feel like, 
wow, you know, that was a wash. 
He wasn't interested at all

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in what I had to say, or, you 
know, he didn't see any talent 
there or intellect there. He

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was assessing the situation the 
whole time for something else.

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And I think that -- 
that did hurt. You 
know, I wish it didn't.

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HARI SREENIVASAN: Yes.

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KATHERINE KENDALL: But he had 
produced so many movies that 
I thought were wonderful.

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And it was -- it's hard 
when someone has made 
art that you love, and 
how do you stay attached

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to liking their art, but 
feeling conflicted about them?

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And, yes, I think it does have 
long-term effects. I think you 
tuck it away. And then, for me,

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also, I realized that it came 
back when I would see his 
name or see him in person. I

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would start to sort of 
tremble all over again.

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I mean, I wouldn't think about 
him on a daily basis or anything 
for years, and then I would

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see him, and I would think, 
oh, I don't feel well. I 
got to get out of here.

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HARI SREENIVASAN: Right.

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KATHERINE KENDALL: You know, it 
would bring up so much emotion.

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And the most recent one was the 
woman in New York, the Italian 
model. I felt so, so enraged

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when I saw what happened there, 
and that they sort of -- the 
police had him, and that then

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he got away. And then she 
was being dragged through the 
press as somebody who just, you

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know, wanted a 
payout, et cetera.

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HARI SREENIVASAN: You know, in 
the wake of that, there was -- 
a friend of yours had tweeted,

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"At some point, all the women 
who have been afraid to speak 
out about Harvey Weinstein

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are going to have to 
hold hands and jump." 
This was back in 2015.

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And from your Twitter 
account, you said, "Agreed."

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It seemed like you almost had 
the opportunity to come forward.

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What made you want to come 
forward now? Has this become a 
turning point in the industry?

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KATHERINE KENDALL: This 
is a turning point. 
It's a turning point.

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There are so many times when 
I thought about it, and then 
felt like -- there were times

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when I thought about it and 
said, well, I have nothing to 
lose, I will just do it. And

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then I thought, I -- I just 
didn't have the strength 
or the courage yet.

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And I think somebody like Jodi 
Kantor doing the story for 
The New York Times, the fact

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that she thought it was a 
story at all was startling to 
me and made me feel like, wow,

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something is going to be done.

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And I knew she had told me -- 
I mean, they were looking for 
women that this had happened

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to, because they'd been hearing 
rumors for so long that it 
happened to so many people.

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And she had told me other 
people were coming out.

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And I thought, I can't -- when 
I watched Rose McGowan or any 
of the other actresses come

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forward, I just -- or Ashley 
Judd -- I just thought, they 
look strong to me, and I don't

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want to be the one 
that stays silent.

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HARI SREENIVASAN: Well, 
Katherine Kendall...

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KATHERINE KENDALL: I want 
to stand beside them.

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HARI SREENIVASAN: Katherine 
Kendall, thank you very 
much for speaking with us.

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And, hopefully, there are 
other people that are empowered 
by you coming forward.

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KATHERINE KENDALL: I 
hope so. Thank you.