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GEOFF BENNETT: This week, FOX
personality Tucker Carlson
is releasing security video

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from the January 6 attack on
the U.S. Capitol using footage
provided exclusively to him by

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Speaker Kevin McCarthy in
an effort to portray the
day as a peaceful gathering.

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TUCKER CARLSON, FOX News
Anchor: It was neither an
insurrection nor deadly.

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The January 6 Committee
knew perfectly well that
Brian Sicknick was walking

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normally through the Capitol
after he was supposedly
murdered by Trump supporters. To

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prove that Josh Hawley was
a coward, the committee
released a video of him loping

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out of the building on
the afternoon of January
6 with a police escort.

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But, in fact, the surveillance
footage we reviewed shows
that famous clip was a sham,

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edited deceptively by the
January 6 Committee. The
January 6 Committee lied.

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GEOFF BENNETT: North
Carolina Republican
Senator Thom Tillis today
responded to that this way:

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SEN. THOM TILLIS (R-NC): I think
it's bull (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

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If you were just a tourist, you
should have probably lined up

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at the visitors center and
came in on an orderly basis.

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GEOFF BENNETT: U.S. Capitol
Police in an internal
message to officers today

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said -- quote -- "The program
conveniently cherry-picked
from the calmer moments of our

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41,000 hours of video. The
commentary fails to provide
context about the chaos

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and the violence that
happened before or during
these less tense moments."

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James Sasso served as senior
investigative counsel for
the January 6 Committee,
and he joins us now.

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Thanks for being here.

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And we should say that you
spent a year investigating
the Capitol attack,

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specifically the people who
planned and attended the riot,

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as well as the domestic
extremist groups responsible
for most of the violence.

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How does it strike you
to hear Tucker Carlson
say that the insurrection

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wasn't an insurrection
at all and that the
January 6 Committee lied?

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JAMES SASSO, Former Senior
Investigative Counsel,
January 6 Committee: It's just

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objectively not true.

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We watched thousands of
hours of violence that
happened on January 6,

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between rioter and
police officers, rioters
and rioters sometimes.

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The rioters too, if you look
at DOJ filings that we covered
and some of the defendants we

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interviewed, things that they
said, were pretty explicit about
what they were doing there.

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They were there at President
Trump's beck and call to try to
keep him in power at all -- by

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all means necessary. Some of
them mentioned going to Civil
War or Revolutionary War,

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depending on which one
they wanted to choose.
Many of them like Ryan
Nichols mentioned dragging,

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I will just say, members of
Congress, although he used
more colorful language,

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through the streets. He
mentioned the same about
Vice President Pence.

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Nicholas Dempsey stood in front
of gallows and said members
of Congress should all hang.

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They -- a lot of people there
were explicitly there to commit
violence. And even though a

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vast majority of the
people who were part of
the violence that day did
not engage in, let's say,

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hand-to-hand violence or did
not destroy the Capitol or did
not do any act of violence,

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the truth is that those who
committed those horrible acts
would not have succeeded if

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it weren't for the numbers of
people who were there to stop
the peaceful transfer of power.

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And that is an insurrection.
The footage that Tucker
Carlson showed was very
selectively chosen.

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GEOFF BENNETT: Well, on
that point, there will
be people who will say,

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well, the January 6 Committee
also selectively chose
footage and interviews
to stitch together

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its own narrative, that
the committee and Tucker
Carlson are both in the
storytelling business.

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How would you respond to that?

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JAMES SASSO: I would respond
that we picked footage
that showed the facts

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of the matter and what
actually happened that day.

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There's nothing to hide in
the footage. There's nothing
to hide in the interviews

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that we had with defendants. We
put out all of our transcripts.
We have backed it up.

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There -- we did have a
story that we're telling the
American public, but it was

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a story backed up by thousands
and thousands of hours of
investigation and fact-checking.

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It wasn't as if we just
were, like, the narrative we
want and go for it. It was

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what actually happened. And
you can see that based on
the extensive evidence we

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put forward and is in our
report, and it is in all the
public documents as well.

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GEOFF BENNETT: As you mentioned,

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you interviewed about 30
of the January 6 defendants
about their motives.

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And you wrote an opinion piece
recently for The New York Times
where you said -- quote -- "With

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the legitimacy of democracy so
degraded, revolution appeared
logical to these people."

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What then is the
impact of this effort,

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this coordinated effort
to whitewash January 6
and rewrite that history?

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JAMES SASSO: It's dangerous. It
legitimizes those feelings that

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people were already
expressing on January 6
and ahead of January 6.

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It wasn't as if,
magically, people were
suddenly were like, oh,

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it's time to go to war,
it's time to overthrow
the government. People
have been dissatisfied

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for a long time with the
way American political
institutions are working. People

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have a lot of racial
resentment that's been
building for 50 years.

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And President Trump gave them
legitimacy. Now that we have
an effort to whitewash what

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actually happened by not showing
the violence that happened
inside the Capitol that day,

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two officers who were getting
swarmed in the crypt, in
Senate hallways. An Oath

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Keeper confronted and threatened
officers, saying: "This
is my 'bleeping' Capitol."

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By not showing what truly
happens, we are telling those
people who want to commit

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more political violence that
it's OK. And that's a very
big problem in America and a

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really big problem if we want
our democracy to survive. We
can't have people out there

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thinking it's OK to battle
each other and to battle
people who disagree with them.

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GEOFF BENNETT: James
Sasso, former senior
investigative counsel for the

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January 6 Committee, thanks for
coming in. Good to talk to you.

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JAMES SASSO: Thank you for
having me. It's been great.