WEBVTT 00:02.533 --> 00:05.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: The weekend shooting rampage in West Texas has left two more American communities 00:05.900 --> 00:07.900 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% in mourning. 00:07.900 --> 00:12.400 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Seven people were killed in Odessa and nearby Midland on Saturday, and another 22 people 00:13.533 --> 00:16.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% were wounded, including a 17-month-old girl. 00:16.733 --> 00:21.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% It came after state troopers stopped the alleged shooter for driving his car erratically. 00:23.633 --> 00:27.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% He shot one of the troopers and then sped away, firing at people randomly. 00:27.100 --> 00:29.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% William Brangham gets an update. 00:29.200 --> 00:33.400 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Judy, there was an emotional vigil last night for victims of the shooting. 00:34.600 --> 00:36.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The gunman's motive is still unknown. 00:36.700 --> 00:40.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% He was apparently fired from his job just before the traffic stop that started the shootings. 00:40.900 --> 00:45.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% This, of course, all comes less than a month since the massacre at the Walmart in El Paso 00:46.633 --> 00:48.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% that killed 22 people. 00:48.333 --> 00:51.933 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% Mitch Borden of Marfa Public Radio joins me from Midland via Skype. 00:51.933 --> 00:54.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Mitch, thank you very much for doing this. 00:54.066 --> 00:58.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Could you just tell me, first off, what we know about the seven victims who were killed 01:00.566 --> 01:02.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% in this rampage? 01:02.566 --> 01:04.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MITCH BORDEN, Marfa Public Radio: We know they ranged in age by quite a bit, the youngest 01:04.700 --> 01:08.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% being 15 and the oldest being 57. 01:08.400 --> 01:13.400 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% The youngest was a high school student, a sophomore at a local Odessa high school. 01:15.366 --> 01:18.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And other than that, information is coming out slowly about the victims. 01:18.833 --> 01:20.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% There are fund-raisers. 01:20.833 --> 01:24.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But, so far, at least from what I have seen, they haven't released a complete list of the 01:24.633 --> 01:26.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% names of the dead. 01:26.666 --> 01:29.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WILLIAM BRANGHAM: And this is such a strange type of mass shooting, where it's going sort 01:29.533 --> 01:33.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of between these two cities from location to location. 01:33.866 --> 01:38.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% How are the two communities of Midland and Odessa doing, grappling with all of this? 01:41.333 --> 01:44.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% MITCH BORDEN: Just to clear things up, the traffic stop probably started in Midland County, 01:44.300 --> 01:46.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but it mostly took place in Odessa. 01:46.733 --> 01:50.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The shooter never went to the city limits of Midland. 01:50.733 --> 01:53.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And both communities, I think, are just in shock. 01:53.266 --> 01:58.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% After being at the vigil last night, people are ready to heal, but people are scared. 01:58.233 --> 02:03.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% This happened in so many places, so quickly, so many people were affected, that, you know, 02:04.566 --> 02:07.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it's only, what, two days later. 02:07.366 --> 02:11.166 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% Like, people are trying to still just understand how this happened. 02:11.166 --> 02:14.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WILLIAM BRANGHAM: And Governor Abbott today said we still don't know anything about the 02:14.966 --> 02:18.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% motive of what drove this man to act this way. 02:18.300 --> 02:22.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But he did say something, that they found out something about him failing some background 02:22.600 --> 02:24.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% checks for purchasing guns. 02:24.200 --> 02:26.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Can you tell us more about that? 02:26.233 --> 02:30.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MITCH BORDEN: Yes, it does -- it did come out in a presser held earlier today by the 02:32.133 --> 02:35.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% - - by law enforcement officials that he had in the past failed a background check. 02:35.200 --> 02:37.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They didn't release any more information. 02:37.700 --> 02:41.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They also said they didn't know how he obtained the assault-style weapon that he used in the 02:42.466 --> 02:44.500 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% shooting. 02:44.500 --> 02:46.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Other than that, we will just have to wait for them to release more information. 02:46.533 --> 02:50.233 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% WILLIAM BRANGHAM: So this massacre, following El Paso, also occurs right when a series of 02:52.366 --> 02:57.333 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% new state laws go into effect that would loosen prior gun regulations in the state of Texas. 02:58.100 --> 02:59.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% What are those changes? 02:59.066 --> 03:00.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MITCH BORDEN: There's a lot. 03:00.600 --> 03:03.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% There were eight laws that came into effect on September 1. 03:03.933 --> 03:08.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But a lot of them make it easier to carry guns in certain settings, such as houses of 03:09.800 --> 03:11.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% worship during a disaster. 03:11.800 --> 03:16.233 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% One increased the amount of school marshals that can carry a firearm. 03:16.233 --> 03:21.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And at a presser -- a presser yesterday, Governor Abbott addressed a crowd and talked to them 03:21.200 --> 03:24.300 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% about action was needed, but he didn't specify what type of action. 03:24.300 --> 03:29.300 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% And when asked about, like, these regulations, he stated that some of them make situations 03:31.333 --> 03:34.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% safer, such as the school one, where school marshal -- more school marshals can be armed. 03:34.866 --> 03:39.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% So he didn't want to really engage on the idea that maybe these regulations make things 03:40.666 --> 03:42.666 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% unsafe. 03:42.666 --> 03:46.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And, so far, there hasn't been any more comment around Odessa on this matter. 03:46.300 --> 03:50.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WILLIAM BRANGHAM: I mean, calls for new gun control measures always follow these types 03:50.366 --> 03:52.000 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% of shootings. 03:52.000 --> 03:54.733 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% We saw that after El Paso and Dayton, and we certainly saw it here. 03:54.733 --> 03:59.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I know former Congressman Beto O'Rourke was in the region. 03:59.133 --> 04:01.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I know you were with -- I take it, with him earlier today. 04:01.733 --> 04:05.833 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% He has made much of his presidential campaign based on gun control. 04:05.833 --> 04:10.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He's called for some very aggressive measures, like mandatory buybacks of assault-style weapons. 04:11.700 --> 04:13.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Did he talk about that today? 04:13.700 --> 04:18.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And, if so, what is your sense of, how does that play in Texas to Texas ears? 04:20.433 --> 04:24.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MITCH BORDEN: You know, I -- when I saw him, he was visiting a Labor Day celebration, a 04:27.000 --> 04:32.000 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% potluck at a union hall -- or, like, a celebration put on by unions. 04:33.966 --> 04:37.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And he was just there trying to spread support from all of West Texas, El Paso. 04:38.666 --> 04:40.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The shooting in El Paso happened less than 30 days ago. 04:40.933 --> 04:44.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it was just about trying to bring the communities together. 04:44.133 --> 04:47.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And he also said action needed to be taken. 04:47.333 --> 04:51.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% He didn't go into, like -- and during his speech, he didn't go into the certain policies, 04:51.266 --> 04:55.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% but he did express like, yes, more things need to be done on a policy level. 04:55.266 --> 04:56.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He wasn't shy about that. 04:56.433 --> 04:59.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I don't think he's usually shy about that. 04:59.600 --> 05:03.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% How that will play in Texas, I think Texas is a red state. 05:03.733 --> 05:08.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I think a lot of people love guns in this state and are very protective of their Second 05:11.333 --> 05:12.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Amendment rights. 05:12.766 --> 05:16.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% At the same time, two mass shootings in less than 30 days. 05:16.100 --> 05:19.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I think some people do want change. 05:19.900 --> 05:24.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And I think you can get really granular when you go into what type of change people want. 05:24.433 --> 05:28.800 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% But I think people are getting to their wit's end with this violence. 05:28.800 --> 05:32.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Mitch Borden of Marfa Public Radio, thank you very much for your time and 05:32.633 --> 05:33.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% for your reporting. 05:33.633 --> 05:33.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% MITCH BORDEN: Thank you.