TOMORROW THE WHITE HOUSE WILL

RELEASE ITS PROPOSED 2020 BUDGET

AND, ACCORDING TO SENIOR

ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS, IT

WILL INCLUDE A REQUEST FOR $8.6-

BILLION FOR NEW FUNDING TO BUILD

MORE SECTIONS OF A WALL ALONG

THE U.S./MEXICO BORDER.

THIS IS IN ADDITION TO MORE THAN

$6.5-BILLION PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS

ALREADY ORDERED REDIRECTED FROM

FEDERAL AGENCIES FOR BORDER

SECURITY.

EVEN BEFORE THE DETAILS ABOUT

SPENDING FOR A BORDER WALL

EMERGED, DEMOCRATS CALLED THE

PRESIDENT'S BUDGET A "NON-

STARTER."

FOR PERSPECTIVE ON THE BATTLE

BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND

CONGRESS AND THE 2020

PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN WE TURN TO

REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST FRANK

LUNTZ.

WHERE ARE VOTERS ON THE WALL

RIGHT NOW?

>> ITS INTERESTING THAT THAT

PHRASE, NONSTARTER, THAT IS PART

OF THE PROBLEM, THAT'S NOT PART

OF THE SOLUTION.

THE GOAL IN THIS, THE MISSION IN

ALL OF THIS IS TO FIND THINGS

THAT EVERY AMERICAN CAN SUPPORT

AND FIND THAT COMMON GROUND

BETWEEN US.

AND NO ONE IS SEEKING IT ANY

MORE.

THE PRESIDENT CONTINUES TO CALL

IT A WALL.

40% OF AMERICANS SUPPORT IT,

WHICH MEANS A MAJORITY DON'T.

BUT A MAJORITY DO SUPPORT A

BARRIER.

THE PUBLIC DOES NOT WANT TO

SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP'S POSITION,

BUT THEY WANT BORDER SECURITY.

AND IF YOU COMBINE A BARRIER AND

HUMAN INTELLIGENCE AND

TECHNOLOGY, YOU'RE UP IN THE MID

70S.

>> Sreenivasan: OF PEOPLE WHO

WOULD SUPPORT IT.

>> OF PEOPLE WITHOUT WOULD

SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE TO THEM

THAT'S GENUINE BORDER SECURITY,

IT'S NOT POLITICS, THEY'RE NOT

LOOKING FOR A TRUMP BUDGET,

THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A

DEMOCRATIC BUDGET, THEY'RE

LOOKING FOR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON

TO GET ALONG, AND GET SOMETHING

DONE.

AND THAT HE'S NOT THE FOCAL

POINT.

AND IF I MAY, BECAUSE I BELIEVE

STRONGLY IN THIS, THERE HAVE

BEEN ATTACKS ON THESE DEMOCRATIC

WOMEN THAT ARE OUT OF CONTROL.

THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY

WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT ISRAEL.

THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY, TO

CRITICIZE AIPAC.

THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO TALK

ABOUT THE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT

BEING BROKEN AND TO CHALLENGE

THOSE WHO WANT TO SILENCE THEM.

WHETHER OR NOT WE AGREE OR

DISAGREE.

SINCE WHEN DO WE DEMONIZE AND

DESTROY AND DEHUMANIZE MEMBERS

OF CONGRESS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE

DISAGREE WITH THEM.

I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY, THEY

GOT THE RIGHT TO SAY IT.

>> Sreenivasan: YOU TALKED TO

ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE

COUNTRY.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A

REPUBLICAN TODAY?

>> IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN TODAY

YOU ARE A STRONG SUPPORTER OF

DONALD TRUMP.

HE HAS A GREATER DEGREE OF

SUPPORT WITHIN HIS PARTY THAN

ANY REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT HAS

EVER HAD SINCE THEY STARTED

POLLING.

>> Sreenivasan: IS THIS THE

SAME PARTY THAT PRE-TRUMP.

>> THIS IS A PARTY THAT USED TO

CARE ABOUT THE FEDERAL DEBT AND

THE DEBT IS MUCH BIGGER NOW THAN

IT WAS.

THIS IS A PARTY THAT BELIEVED IN

OPEN FREE TRADE AND NOW IT'S A

PARTY THAT HAS COME TO SUPPORT

TARIFFS.

AND YET IF I CAN BE CANDID

WITH YOU, EVEN MY OWN POSITION

HAS CHANGED ON AN ISSUE LIKE

THAT.

I DO SEE THE THREAT FROM CHINA.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THE POLICIES

OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AS

THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE FAILED.

AND THE PUBLIC IS ACTUALLY

SAYING AND AGREEING WITH TRUMP

THAT UNLESS WE HOLD CHINA

ACCOUNTABLE, UNLESS WE GET TOUGH

WHICH MAY INCLUDE TARIFFS, THEN

WE'RE GOING TO LOSE AND LOSE AND

LOSE AND LOSE, AGAIN AND AGAIN,

YEAR AFTER YEAR.

>> Sreenivasan: JUST THIS WEAK

THERE WAS A "MOTHER JONES"

ARTICLE THAT WAS LOOKING INTO

WHETHER OR NOT ONE OF TRUMP'S

SUPPORTERS, THE WOMAN WHO

ORIGINALLY SET UP THE MASSAGE

PARLORS THAT ROBERT KRAFT, THE

OWNER OF THE PATRIOTS AND

SUPPORTER OF THE PRESIDENT GOT

CAUGHT AT.

SHE NOT ONLY HAD SELFIES WITH

THE PRESIDENT BUT HAD A SIDE

BUSINESS WHERE SHE WAS SELLING

ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE, THE

PRESIDENT, HIS FAMILY.

IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT LIKELY TO

RESONATE WITH VOTERS?

BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT HIS

SUPPORTERS SAY FORGET IT.

>> THEY LOOK AT ALL OF THIS,

THEY LOOK AT, AND THEY SEE THE

SAME THINGS ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS

AND DOUBLE STANDARDS, IT'S ALL

A DOUBLE STANDARD.

WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS

TALKING ABOUT GETTING SOMETHING

DONE.

THE REASON WHY CONGRESS HAS SUCH

A LOW APPROVAL RATING, IT'S

THEIR OWN FAULT.

WE ARE NOT PRODUCTIVE ANY MORE,

IN POLITICS AND IT REQUIRES THE

BUSINESS LEADERSHIP TO SET UP.

IT REQUIRES EDUCATION LEADERS TO

STEP UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS

ENOUGH.

WE'RE NOT REPUBLICAN AND

DEMOCRAT, WE'RE AMERICAN.

>> Sreenivasan: THE INCENTIVE

STRUCTURE FOR MEMBERS OF

CONGRESS OR LEADERSHIP IN THIS

COUNTRY SEEMS TO BE STACKED IN

THE ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.

MEANING IT IS NOT ABOUT

BRIDGING, BUILDING BRIDGES

ACROSS THE AISLE BECAUSE IF YOU

DO, ARE YOU GOING TO BE

PRIMARIED FROM YOUR OWN PARTY.

>> WE ARE NOT REWARDING HONESTY

AND INTEGRITY.

WE ARE NOT REWARDING PEOPLE WHO

GET THINGS DONE.

WE'RE REWARDING PEOPLE WHO

CHOOSE SIDES.

BUT ALSO, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT,

AND NOT HERE, BUT IT HAPPENS IN

THE MEDIA AS WELL.

"THE NEW YORK TIMES" PUBLISHES

THE MOST EXTREME POSITIONS ON

BOTH SIDES.

WHAT DO WE GET FROM CNN, MSNBC

AND FOX, THE MOST EXTREME

POSITIONS.

THEY PUT THEM OUT THERE AND THEN

THEY PILLORY THEM.

AND THE PUBLIC THINKS THAT

EVERYONE IS NUTS RIGHT NOW.

THEY THINK WE'RE ALL NUTS.

AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY IN

TIMES LIKE THIS TO PUT ALL OF

THAT ASIDE, BE HONEST, BE

TRUTHFUL AND TRY TO UNIFY.

>> Sreenivasan: FRANK LUNTZ,

GOOD NOTE TO END ON.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.