1 00:00:00,033 --> 00:00:02,366 TOMORROW THE WHITE HOUSE WILL 2 00:00:02,366 --> 00:00:04,600 RELEASE ITS PROPOSED 2020 BUDGET 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,633 AND, ACCORDING TO SENIOR 4 00:00:05,633 --> 00:00:07,166 ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS, IT 5 00:00:07,166 --> 00:00:09,333 WILL INCLUDE A REQUEST FOR $8.6- 6 00:00:09,333 --> 00:00:11,533 BILLION FOR NEW FUNDING TO BUILD 7 00:00:11,533 --> 00:00:13,266 MORE SECTIONS OF A WALL ALONG 8 00:00:13,266 --> 00:00:14,833 THE U.S./MEXICO BORDER. 9 00:00:14,833 --> 00:00:16,533 THIS IS IN ADDITION TO MORE THAN 10 00:00:16,533 --> 00:00:18,500 $6.5-BILLION PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS 11 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:20,466 ALREADY ORDERED REDIRECTED FROM 12 00:00:20,466 --> 00:00:21,633 FEDERAL AGENCIES FOR BORDER 13 00:00:21,633 --> 00:00:22,666 SECURITY. 14 00:00:22,666 --> 00:00:24,433 EVEN BEFORE THE DETAILS ABOUT 15 00:00:24,433 --> 00:00:26,100 SPENDING FOR A BORDER WALL 16 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:27,800 EMERGED, DEMOCRATS CALLED THE 17 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,366 PRESIDENT'S BUDGET A "NON- 18 00:00:29,366 --> 00:00:30,233 STARTER." 19 00:00:30,233 --> 00:00:31,400 FOR PERSPECTIVE ON THE BATTLE 20 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,933 BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND 21 00:00:32,933 --> 00:00:34,400 CONGRESS AND THE 2020 22 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:35,600 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN WE TURN TO 23 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,633 REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST FRANK 24 00:00:36,633 --> 00:00:37,433 LUNTZ. 25 00:00:37,433 --> 00:00:38,633 WHERE ARE VOTERS ON THE WALL 26 00:00:38,633 --> 00:00:39,566 RIGHT NOW? 27 00:00:39,566 --> 00:00:40,466 >> ITS INTERESTING THAT THAT 28 00:00:40,466 --> 00:00:42,566 PHRASE, NONSTARTER, THAT IS PART 29 00:00:42,566 --> 00:00:43,633 OF THE PROBLEM, THAT'S NOT PART 30 00:00:43,633 --> 00:00:45,366 OF THE SOLUTION. 31 00:00:45,366 --> 00:00:47,100 THE GOAL IN THIS, THE MISSION IN 32 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:48,866 ALL OF THIS IS TO FIND THINGS 33 00:00:48,866 --> 00:00:51,600 THAT EVERY AMERICAN CAN SUPPORT 34 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:52,766 AND FIND THAT COMMON GROUND 35 00:00:52,766 --> 00:00:54,166 BETWEEN US. 36 00:00:54,166 --> 00:00:55,333 AND NO ONE IS SEEKING IT ANY 37 00:00:55,333 --> 00:00:56,033 MORE. 38 00:00:56,033 --> 00:00:56,833 THE PRESIDENT CONTINUES TO CALL 39 00:00:56,833 --> 00:00:57,800 IT A WALL. 40 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,300 40% OF AMERICANS SUPPORT IT, 41 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:01,533 WHICH MEANS A MAJORITY DON'T. 42 00:01:01,533 --> 00:01:02,700 BUT A MAJORITY DO SUPPORT A 43 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:03,833 BARRIER. 44 00:01:03,833 --> 00:01:05,400 THE PUBLIC DOES NOT WANT TO 45 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,600 SUPPORT DONALD TRUMP'S POSITION, 46 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,666 BUT THEY WANT BORDER SECURITY. 47 00:01:09,666 --> 00:01:12,966 AND IF YOU COMBINE A BARRIER AND 48 00:01:12,966 --> 00:01:14,566 HUMAN INTELLIGENCE AND 49 00:01:14,566 --> 00:01:16,500 TECHNOLOGY, YOU'RE UP IN THE MID 50 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:17,666 70S. 51 00:01:17,666 --> 00:01:18,366 >> Sreenivasan: OF PEOPLE WHO 52 00:01:18,366 --> 00:01:19,066 WOULD SUPPORT IT. 53 00:01:19,066 --> 00:01:20,000 >> OF PEOPLE WITHOUT WOULD 54 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,166 SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE TO THEM 55 00:01:21,166 --> 00:01:22,433 THAT'S GENUINE BORDER SECURITY, 56 00:01:22,433 --> 00:01:23,833 IT'S NOT POLITICS, THEY'RE NOT 57 00:01:23,833 --> 00:01:24,900 LOOKING FOR A TRUMP BUDGET, 58 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:25,800 THEY'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A 59 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,366 DEMOCRATIC BUDGET, THEY'RE 60 00:01:27,366 --> 00:01:28,600 LOOKING FOR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON 61 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,333 TO GET ALONG, AND GET SOMETHING 62 00:01:30,333 --> 00:01:31,733 DONE. 63 00:01:31,733 --> 00:01:33,300 AND THAT HE'S NOT THE FOCAL 64 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:34,333 POINT. 65 00:01:34,333 --> 00:01:36,066 AND IF I MAY, BECAUSE I BELIEVE 66 00:01:36,066 --> 00:01:37,900 STRONGLY IN THIS, THERE HAVE 67 00:01:37,900 --> 00:01:40,500 BEEN ATTACKS ON THESE DEMOCRATIC 68 00:01:40,500 --> 00:01:45,066 WOMEN THAT ARE OUT OF CONTROL. 69 00:01:45,066 --> 00:01:47,300 THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY 70 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:48,366 WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT ISRAEL. 71 00:01:48,366 --> 00:01:50,133 THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SAY, TO 72 00:01:50,133 --> 00:01:51,500 CRITICIZE AIPAC. 73 00:01:51,500 --> 00:01:53,900 THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO TALK 74 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:55,933 ABOUT THE SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT 75 00:01:55,933 --> 00:01:57,566 BEING BROKEN AND TO CHALLENGE 76 00:01:57,566 --> 00:01:59,500 THOSE WHO WANT TO SILENCE THEM. 77 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:00,366 WHETHER OR NOT WE AGREE OR 78 00:02:00,366 --> 00:02:01,400 DISAGREE. 79 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,533 SINCE WHEN DO WE DEMONIZE AND 80 00:02:03,533 --> 00:02:06,200 DESTROY AND DEHUMANIZE MEMBERS 81 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:07,600 OF CONGRESS SIMPLY BECAUSE WE 82 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:08,833 DISAGREE WITH THEM. 83 00:02:08,833 --> 00:02:10,100 I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY, THEY 84 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:11,666 GOT THE RIGHT TO SAY IT. 85 00:02:11,666 --> 00:02:13,366 >> Sreenivasan: YOU TALKED TO 86 00:02:13,366 --> 00:02:14,300 ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE ACROSS THE 87 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:15,566 COUNTRY. 88 00:02:15,566 --> 00:02:16,266 WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A 89 00:02:16,266 --> 00:02:17,466 REPUBLICAN TODAY? 90 00:02:17,466 --> 00:02:18,766 >> IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN TODAY 91 00:02:18,766 --> 00:02:20,266 YOU ARE A STRONG SUPPORTER OF 92 00:02:20,266 --> 00:02:21,833 DONALD TRUMP. 93 00:02:21,833 --> 00:02:23,066 HE HAS A GREATER DEGREE OF 94 00:02:23,066 --> 00:02:24,400 SUPPORT WITHIN HIS PARTY THAN 95 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,466 ANY REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT HAS 96 00:02:26,466 --> 00:02:27,700 EVER HAD SINCE THEY STARTED 97 00:02:27,700 --> 00:02:28,700 POLLING. 98 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:29,666 >> Sreenivasan: IS THIS THE 99 00:02:29,666 --> 00:02:32,933 SAME PARTY THAT PRE-TRUMP. 100 00:02:32,933 --> 00:02:34,100 >> THIS IS A PARTY THAT USED TO 101 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:36,633 CARE ABOUT THE FEDERAL DEBT AND 102 00:02:36,633 --> 00:02:37,866 THE DEBT IS MUCH BIGGER NOW THAN 103 00:02:37,866 --> 00:02:39,066 IT WAS. 104 00:02:39,066 --> 00:02:41,133 THIS IS A PARTY THAT BELIEVED IN 105 00:02:41,133 --> 00:02:42,766 OPEN FREE TRADE AND NOW IT'S A 106 00:02:42,766 --> 00:02:44,433 PARTY THAT HAS COME TO SUPPORT 107 00:02:44,433 --> 00:02:46,000 TARIFFS. 108 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,166 AND YET IF I CAN BE CANDID 109 00:02:47,166 --> 00:02:48,333 WITH YOU, EVEN MY OWN POSITION 110 00:02:48,333 --> 00:02:49,500 HAS CHANGED ON AN ISSUE LIKE 111 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:50,333 THAT. 112 00:02:50,333 --> 00:02:51,933 I DO SEE THE THREAT FROM CHINA. 113 00:02:51,933 --> 00:02:53,600 I DO BELIEVE THAT THE POLICIES 114 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,400 OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AS 115 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,500 THE PUBLIC DOES HAVE FAILED. 116 00:02:57,500 --> 00:02:58,600 AND THE PUBLIC IS ACTUALLY 117 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,233 SAYING AND AGREEING WITH TRUMP 118 00:03:00,233 --> 00:03:01,733 THAT UNLESS WE HOLD CHINA 119 00:03:01,733 --> 00:03:03,600 ACCOUNTABLE, UNLESS WE GET TOUGH 120 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,866 WHICH MAY INCLUDE TARIFFS, THEN 121 00:03:05,866 --> 00:03:07,333 WE'RE GOING TO LOSE AND LOSE AND 122 00:03:07,333 --> 00:03:09,000 LOSE AND LOSE, AGAIN AND AGAIN, 123 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,266 YEAR AFTER YEAR. 124 00:03:10,266 --> 00:03:11,266 >> Sreenivasan: JUST THIS WEAK 125 00:03:11,266 --> 00:03:12,533 THERE WAS A "MOTHER JONES" 126 00:03:12,533 --> 00:03:14,633 ARTICLE THAT WAS LOOKING INTO 127 00:03:14,633 --> 00:03:16,033 WHETHER OR NOT ONE OF TRUMP'S 128 00:03:16,033 --> 00:03:17,000 SUPPORTERS, THE WOMAN WHO 129 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,166 ORIGINALLY SET UP THE MASSAGE 130 00:03:18,166 --> 00:03:20,133 PARLORS THAT ROBERT KRAFT, THE 131 00:03:20,133 --> 00:03:21,266 OWNER OF THE PATRIOTS AND 132 00:03:21,266 --> 00:03:22,300 SUPPORTER OF THE PRESIDENT GOT 133 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:23,233 CAUGHT AT. 134 00:03:23,233 --> 00:03:24,166 SHE NOT ONLY HAD SELFIES WITH 135 00:03:24,166 --> 00:03:25,233 THE PRESIDENT BUT HAD A SIDE 136 00:03:25,233 --> 00:03:26,266 BUSINESS WHERE SHE WAS SELLING 137 00:03:26,266 --> 00:03:28,700 ACCESS TO THE WHITE HOUSE, THE 138 00:03:28,700 --> 00:03:30,333 PRESIDENT, HIS FAMILY. 139 00:03:30,333 --> 00:03:32,000 IS SOMETHING LIKE THAT LIKELY TO 140 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,566 RESONATE WITH VOTERS? 141 00:03:33,566 --> 00:03:34,600 BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT HIS 142 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,900 SUPPORTERS SAY FORGET IT. 143 00:03:35,900 --> 00:03:37,300 >> THEY LOOK AT ALL OF THIS, 144 00:03:37,300 --> 00:03:38,900 THEY LOOK AT, AND THEY SEE THE 145 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:40,700 SAME THINGS ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS 146 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:41,800 AND DOUBLE STANDARDS, IT'S ALL 147 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:42,900 A DOUBLE STANDARD. 148 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:43,933 WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS 149 00:03:43,933 --> 00:03:45,633 TALKING ABOUT GETTING SOMETHING 150 00:03:45,633 --> 00:03:46,866 DONE. 151 00:03:46,866 --> 00:03:48,000 THE REASON WHY CONGRESS HAS SUCH 152 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,700 A LOW APPROVAL RATING, IT'S 153 00:03:49,700 --> 00:03:51,333 THEIR OWN FAULT. 154 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:53,300 WE ARE NOT PRODUCTIVE ANY MORE, 155 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:55,400 IN POLITICS AND IT REQUIRES THE 156 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:56,733 BUSINESS LEADERSHIP TO SET UP. 157 00:03:56,733 --> 00:03:58,700 IT REQUIRES EDUCATION LEADERS TO 158 00:03:58,700 --> 00:03:59,966 STEP UP AND SAY ENOUGH IS 159 00:03:59,966 --> 00:04:01,366 ENOUGH. 160 00:04:01,366 --> 00:04:02,066 WE'RE NOT REPUBLICAN AND 161 00:04:02,066 --> 00:04:03,866 DEMOCRAT, WE'RE AMERICAN. 162 00:04:03,866 --> 00:04:04,800 >> Sreenivasan: THE INCENTIVE 163 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:05,966 STRUCTURE FOR MEMBERS OF 164 00:04:05,966 --> 00:04:06,900 CONGRESS OR LEADERSHIP IN THIS 165 00:04:06,900 --> 00:04:07,933 COUNTRY SEEMS TO BE STACKED IN 166 00:04:07,933 --> 00:04:09,900 THE ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. 167 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:11,900 MEANING IT IS NOT ABOUT 168 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:13,566 BRIDGING, BUILDING BRIDGES 169 00:04:13,566 --> 00:04:16,600 ACROSS THE AISLE BECAUSE IF YOU 170 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,000 DO, ARE YOU GOING TO BE 171 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,333 PRIMARIED FROM YOUR OWN PARTY. 172 00:04:20,333 --> 00:04:22,300 >> WE ARE NOT REWARDING HONESTY 173 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:23,133 AND INTEGRITY. 174 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:24,633 WE ARE NOT REWARDING PEOPLE WHO 175 00:04:24,633 --> 00:04:25,433 GET THINGS DONE. 176 00:04:25,433 --> 00:04:26,500 WE'RE REWARDING PEOPLE WHO 177 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:27,800 CHOOSE SIDES. 178 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,333 BUT ALSO, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, 179 00:04:30,333 --> 00:04:32,033 AND NOT HERE, BUT IT HAPPENS IN 180 00:04:32,033 --> 00:04:33,933 THE MEDIA AS WELL. 181 00:04:33,933 --> 00:04:35,400 "THE NEW YORK TIMES" PUBLISHES 182 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,166 THE MOST EXTREME POSITIONS ON 183 00:04:37,166 --> 00:04:38,200 BOTH SIDES. 184 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:39,633 WHAT DO WE GET FROM CNN, MSNBC 185 00:04:39,633 --> 00:04:41,666 AND FOX, THE MOST EXTREME 186 00:04:41,666 --> 00:04:43,066 POSITIONS. 187 00:04:43,066 --> 00:04:44,266 THEY PUT THEM OUT THERE AND THEN 188 00:04:44,266 --> 00:04:45,666 THEY PILLORY THEM. 189 00:04:45,666 --> 00:04:46,566 AND THE PUBLIC THINKS THAT 190 00:04:46,566 --> 00:04:48,100 EVERYONE IS NUTS RIGHT NOW. 191 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:49,600 THEY THINK WE'RE ALL NUTS. 192 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,566 AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY IN 193 00:04:51,566 --> 00:04:53,566 TIMES LIKE THIS TO PUT ALL OF 194 00:04:53,566 --> 00:04:55,400 THAT ASIDE, BE HONEST, BE 195 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,600 TRUTHFUL AND TRY TO UNIFY. 196 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,533 >> Sreenivasan: FRANK LUNTZ, 197 00:04:58,533 --> 00:04:59,466 GOOD NOTE TO END ON. 198 00:04:59,466 --> 00:05:00,500 THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. 199 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:01,433 >> THANK YOU.