WEBVTT 00:02.033 --> 00:05.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: It has been a week unlike any other in recent years, multiple days of marathon 00:07.433 --> 00:10.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% impeachment hearings with administration officials past and present, all in public. 00:12.766 --> 00:15.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But where does the impeachment inquiry in the U.S. House of Representatives go from 00:15.733 --> 00:17.633 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% here? 00:17.633 --> 00:20.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Correspondent Lisa Desjardins sat through every hour of those hearings. 00:20.700 --> 00:23.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And she's here now to walk us through what the next few weeks might bring. 00:23.933 --> 00:28.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So, Lisa, it has been a long week, a lot of hearings. 00:28.100 --> 00:31.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% The hearings ended yesterday afternoon, but, today, President Trump weighed in. 00:31.633 --> 00:32.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: That's right. 00:32.633 --> 00:34.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Let's start there. 00:34.600 --> 00:36.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% The president clearly was paying very close attention to these hearings. 00:36.366 --> 00:39.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He had a lot to say this morning on "FOX & Friends." 00:39.000 --> 00:41.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You reported his message about Vice President Mike Pence. 00:41.766 --> 00:43.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Well, he also spoke about impeachment. 00:43.900 --> 00:45.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Let's listen to some of what he said. 00:45.966 --> 00:48.566 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States: Don't forget, there was no due process. 00:48.566 --> 00:49.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% You can't have lawyers. 00:49.966 --> 00:51.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% We couldn't have any witnesses. 00:51.633 --> 00:52.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We want to call the whistle-blower. 00:52.900 --> 00:55.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But you know who I want as the first witness? 00:55.566 --> 00:57.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Because, frankly, I want a trial. 00:57.733 --> 01:00.900 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: What he's saying there is, he doesn't think the House Intelligence hearings 01:00.900 --> 01:04.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% were fair, he didn't have representation there, his lawyers couldn't ask questions. 01:04.833 --> 01:06.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He says he wants a trial. 01:06.800 --> 01:11.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Well, Judy, if the House does vote to impeach, the president, he will have no choice. 01:13.466 --> 01:16.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% We know from Senate Leader Mitch McConnell's office that he does plan to go forward with 01:16.533 --> 01:18.066 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% a trial. 01:18.066 --> 01:20.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And there are not enough votes to prevent that in the Senate. 01:20.200 --> 01:23.866 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% Even though Republicans have a majority, they do not have enough who feel that a trial should 01:23.866 --> 01:25.933 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% be blocked. 01:25.933 --> 01:27.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: So procedure would require it if the House votes on impeachment. 01:27.733 --> 01:29.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: That's right. 01:29.800 --> 01:33.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: So now -- Lisa, now that these public hearings seem to be behind us, what 01:33.300 --> 01:34.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% are the next steps? 01:34.733 --> 01:37.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: Well, Congress is gone for Thanksgiving. 01:37.433 --> 01:40.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% So we do not expect any public hearings, as you're saying, for next week. 01:40.966 --> 01:43.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It is possible there could be some closed-door depositions. 01:43.533 --> 01:48.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There are a few characters involved here that Congress has not been able to speak to, including 01:48.133 --> 01:51.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Rudy Giuliani's associate Lev Parnas. 01:51.066 --> 01:55.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But it may be that Congress has no activity, really, in front of the scenes. 01:55.866 --> 01:58.666 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% But there is something that is going to happen next week on Monday. 01:58.666 --> 02:03.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% A federal judge has said that they plan to rule on a case involving president -- the 02:04.800 --> 02:06.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% White House former counsel Don McGahn. 02:06.833 --> 02:11.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Now, he was a critical witness in the Mueller report case, testifying to what the president 02:13.666 --> 02:17.000 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% - - he said, the president asked essentially, in his view, for Robert Mueller to be fired. 02:19.133 --> 02:23.033 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% So this is important in impeachment, because Don McGahn would testify to a different impeachment 02:24.633 --> 02:27.700 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% allegation, obstruction of justice, if Democrats want to pursue that. 02:27.700 --> 02:31.000 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% If a court rules that he must testify, that could change timelines. 02:31.000 --> 02:32.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% That could change calculations. 02:32.666 --> 02:34.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Of course, that could also continue to be appealed. 02:34.966 --> 02:36.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But it's something we're going to watch closely next week. 02:36.900 --> 02:41.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: If there were a broadened impeachment inquiry focus. 02:41.466 --> 02:43.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: That's right. 02:43.566 --> 02:45.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: So, Lisa, what about the committee that's been in the forefront for these last 02:45.300 --> 02:47.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% few weeks, the Intelligence Committee? 02:47.266 --> 02:48.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They still have work to do, don't they? 02:48.833 --> 02:50.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: Right. 02:50.333 --> 02:53.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Congress is out of town, but staff is working day and night. 02:53.100 --> 02:54.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% They are getting ready. 02:54.100 --> 02:56.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They're producing a report. 02:56.266 --> 02:59.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% That report essentially will be the evidence, as they see it, against this president. 02:59.966 --> 03:02.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it will be a critical piece of information. 03:02.466 --> 03:06.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% At the same time, we should expect House Republicans on the Intelligence Committee, led by Jim 03:08.500 --> 03:11.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Jordan and Devin Nunes, to put together their own report, their own kind of facts and their 03:11.433 --> 03:12.866 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% own findings. 03:12.866 --> 03:14.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% What's going to happen after that? 03:14.500 --> 03:16.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Those reports will be presented to the public. 03:16.566 --> 03:20.000 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% Then the House Judiciary Committee will take up the issues. 03:20.000 --> 03:23.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And, Judy, when the House Judiciary Committee meets, they have the right to call public 03:23.933 --> 03:26.000 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% hearings. 03:26.000 --> 03:29.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I'm told that we should expect some, but none of the same witnesses as we saw this week 03:30.966 --> 03:32.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% from the House Intelligence Committee. 03:32.900 --> 03:35.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% They say, we feel that those witnesses' testimony stands on its own. 03:35.833 --> 03:39.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Instead, there is some questioning of whether we could see Mueller-related witnesses... 03:39.533 --> 03:41.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: Ah. 03:41.700 --> 03:45.300 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: ... if the Judiciary Committee determines that that is also a case they want 03:45.300 --> 03:46.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to make for articles of impeachment. 03:46.933 --> 03:49.433 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: Back to the point that you were making a moment ago. 03:49.433 --> 03:51.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: Yes. 03:51.533 --> 03:53.166 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: So, everybody is curious to know, because we are coming up on the holidays, 03:53.166 --> 03:54.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% November, December. 03:54.666 --> 03:56.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% What does the calendar look like, as far as we know? 03:56.700 --> 03:57.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: Ah. 03:57.933 --> 03:59.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You know I love a good calendar graphic. 03:59.400 --> 04:00.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Our producer Jesse (ph) helped put this together too. 04:00.600 --> 04:02.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Let's take a look. 04:02.066 --> 04:04.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, first of all, they're putting the report together now. 04:04.533 --> 04:09.400 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% We expect the report to go to Judiciary -- the Judiciary Committee that first week of December. 04:09.400 --> 04:14.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Then we expect those hearings, very likely those first two weeks of December. 04:14.300 --> 04:16.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And, listen, Judy, that's not just public hearings. 04:16.533 --> 04:21.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% That's also an important event, which will be the marking up of the articles of impeachment 04:21.466 --> 04:23.466 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% themselves. 04:23.466 --> 04:26.566 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% That will be line-for-line edits, potential amending of those articles. 04:26.566 --> 04:30.433 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% After that happens in House Judiciary, if it votes to forward the articles of impeachment 04:30.433 --> 04:35.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% to the floor, this is the timeline likely, that week of December 20 right there. 04:36.833 --> 04:39.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So it could happen very quickly. 04:39.133 --> 04:44.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Democrats are on track right now to have that full House floor vote by the end of December. 04:44.066 --> 04:48.500 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% Judy, also, in that same week, though, that's when the government funding bill runs out. 04:48.500 --> 04:51.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% There's a Democratic debate that we are hosting that week. 04:51.233 --> 04:52.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: That's right. 04:52.500 --> 04:54.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: It is a very high-profile week. 04:54.200 --> 04:56.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% A lot is being crammed in there. 04:56.366 --> 04:58.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But this is the likely schedule right now. 04:58.700 --> 05:01.966 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% Our viewers should be ready for a very busy and intense December. 05:01.966 --> 05:05.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: Not your usual period running up into Christmas and New Year's and so forth. 05:05.266 --> 05:06.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: Not at all. 05:06.600 --> 05:08.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: Lisa Desjardins, an incredible week. 05:08.733 --> 05:10.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Thank you so much for all your work. 05:10.200 --> 05:11.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: You're welcome. 05:11.200 --> 05:11.333 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% My honor.