WEBVTT 00:01.633 --> 00:03.866 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: President Trump is projecting defiance as he faces his 00:03.866 --> 00:08.866 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% greatest political peril yet, an unprecedented second impeachment. 00:10.866 --> 00:13.900 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He denied any responsibility today for the riot that engulfed the halls of Congress last week. 00:15.366 --> 00:17.400 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% White House correspondent Yamiche Alcindor reports. 00:17.400 --> 00:21.700 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% YAMICHE ALCINDOR: The nation still reeling, and President Trump with no regrets. 00:21.700 --> 00:26.700 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% The president emerged in public for the first time since extremist supporters stormed the Capitol. 00:28.300 --> 00:30.900 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% He rejected all talk of involuntary removal or a second impeachment. 00:30.900 --> 00:34.466 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States: It's really a continuation of the greatest 00:34.466 --> 00:39.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% witch-hunt in the history of politics. It's ridiculous. It's absolutely ridiculous. 00:41.933 --> 00:44.766 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% For Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer to continue on this path, I think it's causing tremendous 00:47.100 --> 00:51.733 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% danger to our country, and it's causing tremendous anger. I want no violence. 00:51.733 --> 00:54.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% YAMICHE ALCINDOR: At his rally last Wednesday, President Trump urged the 00:54.533 --> 00:58.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% crowd to march to the Capitol. He's since been denounced for inciting the mob. 00:58.866 --> 01:02.966 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% But, today, he insisted his words had been -- quote -- "totally appropriate." 01:02.966 --> 01:06.266 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% That brought new condemnation from the Senate's top Democrat, 01:06.266 --> 01:08.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% incoming Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. 01:08.266 --> 01:13.100 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): What Trump did today, blaming others for what he caused, 01:14.966 --> 01:19.166 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% is a pathological technique used by the worst of dictators. Trump causes the anger, 01:21.700 --> 01:26.700 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% he causes the divisiveness, he foments the violence and blames others for it. 01:28.633 --> 01:33.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% That is despicable. Donald Trump should not hold office one day longer. 01:35.033 --> 01:38.833 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% YAMICHE ALCINDOR: House Democrats agree. Tonight, they will vote on a resolution calling 01:38.833 --> 01:43.466 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% for Vice President Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove the president from office. 01:44.966 --> 01:47.900 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% The resolution states: "These insurrectionary protests were 01:47.900 --> 01:51.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% widely advertised and broadly encouraged by President Trump." 01:51.500 --> 01:55.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Today, the House Rules Committee debated the measure. On full display, 01:55.500 --> 02:00.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% deep partisanship. Maryland Congressman Jamie Raskin and Democrats demanded action. 02:02.566 --> 02:04.633 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% REP. JAMIE RASKIN (D-MD): It's up to the vice president, and we're not trying to usurp his 02:04.633 --> 02:08.933 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% authority in any way. We're trying to tell him that the time of the 25th Amendment emergency 02:10.533 --> 02:14.933 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% has arrived. It has come to our doorstep. It has invaded our chamber. 02:17.500 --> 02:20.300 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% They can help to lead us out of the nightmare we have been plunged into by this sequence of events. 02:23.133 --> 02:26.900 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% YAMICHE ALCINDOR: But Republicans, including Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan, 02:26.900 --> 02:28.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% echoed the president's claims of a witch-hunt. 02:28.900 --> 02:31.633 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% REP. JIM JORDAN (R-OH): Let's be clear. Democrats have been wanting 02:31.633 --> 02:34.900 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% to remove President Trump from office since he won the election in 2016. 02:36.800 --> 02:39.366 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% They failed with the Russia investigation. They failed with the Mueller investigation. 02:39.366 --> 02:43.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And they failed with their first impeachment investigation. So, here we are again. 02:43.533 --> 02:47.400 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Jordan also refused to say whether president-elect Biden 02:47.400 --> 02:48.833 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% won the election fairly. 02:51.300 --> 02:53.933 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% For his part, Vice President Pence has signaled he is not open to using the 25th Amendment. 02:55.866 --> 02:58.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Instead, last night, he and the president met, after days of not speaking. 02:58.866 --> 03:02.566 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% They reportedly agreed to work together for the remainder of their term. 03:02.566 --> 03:07.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Today, President Trump said -- quote -- "The 25th amendment is no risk to me." 03:07.533 --> 03:11.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% But, if that's the case, House Democrats say, tomorrow, they will vote on impeachment. 03:12.966 --> 03:15.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% At the same time, more details emerged about President Trump's 03:15.533 --> 03:19.866 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% real-time response to the assault on the Capitol. The Washington Post reported that the president 03:19.866 --> 03:24.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% ignored pleas for help from lawmakers. Instead, he chose to watch the violence unfold on TV. 03:26.866 --> 03:30.233 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And a report by Axios said he blamed anti-fascists, or Antifa, for the violence. 03:32.333 --> 03:35.266 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% There is no evidence to back up that claim. But defenders of President Trump keep repeating it. 03:36.933 --> 03:38.933 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% The hunt for those who assaulted the Capitol is also in full swing. 03:38.933 --> 03:41.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% STEVEN D'ANTUONO, Assistant Director, Fbi Washington Field Office: I want to 03:41.033 --> 03:44.300 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% stress that the FBI has a long memory and a broad reach. So, even if you have left D.C., 03:45.966 --> 03:49.066 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% agents from our local field offices will be knocking on your door 03:50.733 --> 03:53.333 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% if we find out that you are part of the criminal activity at the Capitol. 03:53.333 --> 03:56.933 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Acting U.S. attorney for D.C. Michael Sherwin 03:56.933 --> 04:01.900 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% also said they're forming a task force to build charges tied to sedition and conspiracy. 04:03.300 --> 04:05.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Meanwhile, state capitols are bracing for new violence. 04:05.866 --> 04:10.866 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% The FBI indicated that, in the coming days, there could nationwide protests by armed groups. 04:12.800 --> 04:16.233 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% In Michigan, Attorney General Dana Nessel says the state capitol is still not safe. 04:18.733 --> 04:22.066 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% That comes despite a new rule banning the open carry of firearms. Today, the FBI also met with 04:24.566 --> 04:27.733 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% other federal agencies and Pentagon leadership on inauguration security. And senators received 04:29.733 --> 04:32.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% a briefing from the Secret Service and the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security. 04:32.033 --> 04:37.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Back at the U.S. Capitol, yet more fallout. Three lawmakers have now tested positive for the 04:39.600 --> 04:42.233 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% coronavirus. They were part of a group hunkering down during the Capitol siege with Republicans who 04:44.766 --> 04:47.666 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% were not wearing masks. The video shows some even refusing masks handed out during the lockdown. 04:49.633 --> 04:53.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And the president also faces fallout of a different kind from big business. Today, Deutsche 04:53.533 --> 04:57.933 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Bank, the biggest lender to his companies, says it will have no more dealings with him. 04:57.933 --> 05:00.400 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% JUDY WOODRUFF: 05:00.400 --> 05:05.333 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% And Yamiche joins me now for more, along with our congressional correspondent, Lisa Desjardins. 05:06.500 --> 05:08.266 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Hello to both of you. So much happening today. 05:08.266 --> 05:09.633 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% Lisa, I'm going to start with you. 05:09.633 --> 05:12.433 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% New developments now, as the House moves closer 05:14.266 --> 05:17.300 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% to that second impeachment process. Tell us what you're learning. 05:17.300 --> 05:22.300 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: Some extraordinary developments in just the past hour, Judy. 05:23.366 --> 05:24.900 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% The number three Republican in the House, 05:24.900 --> 05:28.433 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Liz Cheney, has announced she will vote for impeachment. 05:28.433 --> 05:31.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Reading from her statement, she wrote: "The president of the United States 05:31.866 --> 05:36.666 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% summoned this mob, assembled this mob, could have intervened, but did not." 05:36.666 --> 05:41.466 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% Also, another House Republican, John Katko of New York, is also voting for impeachment. He wrote: 05:41.466 --> 05:46.166 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% "It cannot be ignored that President Trump encouraged this insurrection." 05:46.166 --> 05:50.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% At the same time, The New York Times is reporting another powerful Republican, 05:50.033 --> 05:54.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Mitch McConnell, the Senate Republican leader, is on board the idea of impeachment, 05:54.500 --> 05:58.833 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% and does not want to speak to President Trump any more. That is major news. 05:58.833 --> 06:01.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And I can tell you, Mitch McConnell and those around him are some of the most 06:01.866 --> 06:06.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% disciplined people in Washington. For that news to leak out is significant. 06:08.400 --> 06:10.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Finally, I have to say the mood at the Capitol, as you saw in Yamiche's piece, 06:10.433 --> 06:14.833 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% is very tense. Those supporting the president are ramping up their arguments, as you heard. 06:14.833 --> 06:19.833 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% But it does seem this crack in the Republican Party is opening up into a chasm over this issue. 06:22.166 --> 06:25.166 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% And some of the president's allies, including House leader, Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy, 06:27.766 --> 06:31.900 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% are now giving permission to members to vote their conscience on this issue. That's a very big deal. 06:34.400 --> 06:37.933 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% One more thing, Judy. This vote could move along quickly. I'm told that House Republicans do not 06:37.933 --> 06:42.933 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% have any plans to throw procedural hurdles in the way tomorrow on the road to impeachment. 06:44.766 --> 06:48.300 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: These are gigantic political developments, Lisa. Thank you very much. 06:50.333 --> 06:54.100 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And, as we have said, we're going to be covering this all from starting tomorrow morning 06:54.100 --> 06:56.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% here live, and you will be at the Capitol for us. 06:56.733 --> 07:01.733 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% So, separately to you, Yamiche, the FBI did hold that briefing today. 07:03.366 --> 07:05.366 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% Tell us more about what they are saying about what happened last week. 07:05.366 --> 07:10.366 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Well, today, the FBI and federal authorities made it very clear that 07:12.300 --> 07:15.466 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% they are planning to track down and charge anyone connected to the siege on the Capitol. 07:15.466 --> 07:19.633 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% They say that they are treating this like an international counterterrorism effort. 07:19.633 --> 07:21.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% That is pretty remarkable, considering, of course, 07:21.600 --> 07:25.300 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% these are Americans on domestic soil. But they say that they are looking at 07:25.300 --> 07:29.766 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% so many different people. They say that they are expecting that this is going to be hundreds 07:29.766 --> 07:34.766 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% of cases. Right now, they have about 170 cases opened. They have charged about 70 people so far. 07:36.633 --> 07:39.366 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% They say that the charges range from felony murder all the way up 07:39.366 --> 07:42.166 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% to simple -- or all the way down to simple trespassing. They also 07:42.166 --> 07:46.666 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% say they're looking at theft of national security. They're look at theft of mail. 07:46.666 --> 07:50.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% They say that this could go from city to city. They say that they have already been in Dallas 07:50.500 --> 07:55.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% and Jacksonville and Cleveland, rounding people up for this. They made it very clear that, 07:57.100 --> 07:59.366 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% if people were involved in this, that you could and will be charged. 07:59.366 --> 08:01.466 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% Another thing to note, though, that, even though it's been about 08:01.466 --> 08:05.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% almost a week since this siege on the Capitol, the people that were briefing today, 08:05.533 --> 08:08.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% they weren't the FBI director or the head of Homeland Security. 08:10.500 --> 08:13.766 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% So, there's really a big question of whether or not the top, top federal officials, 08:13.766 --> 08:16.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% whether they're at some point going to come before the public to speak out. 08:16.500 --> 08:20.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: Fascinating, all of it. 08:23.233 --> 08:25.833 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% And we know, Yamiche, you're also following what is going on at the White House. You were reporting 08:25.833 --> 08:30.766 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% the president denying any responsibility for what happened. But you have been talking to people. 08:32.633 --> 08:34.566 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% What is he saying privately? What is he known to believe privately 08:35.866 --> 08:39.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% about how much responsibility he has for all this? 08:39.866 --> 08:44.666 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Despite a bipartisan push now to impeach President Trump, 08:44.666 --> 08:46.733 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% he's saying he has no regrets. 08:46.733 --> 08:51.566 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% He's also spreading disinformation and still saying things that are simply false in public 08:54.033 --> 08:57.366 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% and in private. The president today said that he believes that everything that he said on Wednesday 08:57.366 --> 09:02.366 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% before these people came and attacked our U.S. Capitol was totally appropriate. 09:04.333 --> 09:07.066 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% But let's remind people that he said the word fight or fighting in that speech 09:07.066 --> 09:10.333 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% more than 20 times. And he told people to march on the Capitol, 09:10.333 --> 09:14.566 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% and then went back to the security of the White House and watched all the violence play out on TV. 09:14.566 --> 09:18.966 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He's also spreading the disinformation that this was really not his supporters, 09:18.966 --> 09:23.966 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% but that it was Antifa, anti-fascists, a group that he's called out and really made all sorts 09:26.500 --> 09:29.266 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% of information up about. And the FBI is saying there's no evidence of, that this was not Antifa. 09:31.233 --> 09:34.166 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% In fact, this was Trump -- this was the Trump supporters who were at the Capitol. They were 09:34.166 --> 09:37.300 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% wearing his name. They were wearing his logos. So, what you see here is 09:37.300 --> 09:41.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% President Trump trying to deflect and deny the fact that he has any connection to this. 09:41.533 --> 09:44.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Another thing to note is that the president today was on the Southern border, 09:44.433 --> 09:48.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% and he said the 25th Amendment, he doesn't have any risk of being hurt by that, 09:48.500 --> 09:52.166 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% or -- so he feels as though the only way that he's going to be at least punished by this is 09:52.166 --> 09:56.266 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% through impeachment, not through Vice President Pence taking any sort of action against him. 09:56.266 --> 09:58.866 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% JUDY WOODRUFF: 09:58.866 --> 10:03.333 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% All right, so much to follow on this Tuesday. We thank both of you for more excellent reporting. 10:05.233 --> 10:10.233 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Yamiche, Lisa, thank you both.