WEBVTT 00:01.933 --> 00:04.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% AMNA NAWAZ: The number of self-identified Black farmers in the United States has dwindled 00:04.500 --> 00:09.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% over the last century, in part because of discrimination by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. 00:11.966 --> 00:15.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The agency is the economic backbone for most American farmers through its financing, insurance 00:16.266 --> 00:18.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and research and education programs. 00:18.800 --> 00:23.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Special correspondent Fred de Sam Lazaro reports from Oklahoma, where, despite roadblocks to 00:25.066 --> 00:28.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% federal aid, there's a concerted push to help Black and other underserved farmers survive. 00:30.666 --> 00:33.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% LEROY BRINKLEY, Rancher: I knew I was going to do this since I was 7 years old. 00:36.000 --> 00:39.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% First time I pretty much got on a tractor with my uncle, and I knew I love agriculture. 00:40.966 --> 00:42.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Wouldn't give it for nothing in the world. 00:42.500 --> 00:44.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: Did you know how tough it was going to be? 00:44.833 --> 00:45.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% LEROY BRINKLEY: No. 00:45.833 --> 00:47.900 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% I do now. 00:47.900 --> 00:51.800 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: For 50 year old Leroy Brinkley, self-described hermit, this 80-acre 00:53.833 --> 00:57.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% farm with nearly three dozen beef cows is his comfort zone, a labor-intensive full-time 01:00.466 --> 01:05.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% job, but it is one he has to finance by working at least as long off the farm as a heavy equipment 01:06.733 --> 01:08.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% mechanic and truck driver. 01:08.866 --> 01:12.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Why isn't farming by itself a full-time occupation? 01:12.666 --> 01:14.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Because the work certainly is full-time, right? 01:14.666 --> 01:17.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% LEROY BRINKLEY: Yes, the work is there, but the money is not. 01:17.800 --> 01:20.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Economically, I don't see this working just by itself. 01:20.900 --> 01:25.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: When he began farming three decades ago, Leroy Brinkley tried to 01:25.766 --> 01:29.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% get a loan from the USDA. 01:29.333 --> 01:33.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But at the local office, he says he was turned down and turned off by the experience. 01:33.700 --> 01:38.266 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% LEROY BRINKLEY: I brought the papers, and it was just no support. 01:38.266 --> 01:41.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I could tell from the get-go I wasn't going to get help. 01:41.200 --> 01:43.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I tried it anyway, trying to be nice, polite. 01:43.733 --> 01:47.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I still didn't get the support that I needed from it. 01:47.066 --> 01:49.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So, I couldn't bother with it anymore. 01:49.066 --> 01:52.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: An experience all too familiar to Black and minority farmers. 01:52.833 --> 01:55.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% JOHN BOYD JR., President, National Black Farmers Association: We have clearly been dumped on 01:55.333 --> 01:59.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% worse than any other race in this country by our own federal government. 01:59.600 --> 02:04.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: John Boyd Jr. is president of the National Black Farmers Association 02:04.366 --> 02:07.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and a fourth-generation Virginia farmer. 02:07.200 --> 02:12.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He says African Americans have been systematically excluded from programs that enable farmers 02:14.166 --> 02:16.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% to acquire land and build wealth, and unfairly targeted for foreclosure. 02:16.966 --> 02:21.800 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JOHN BOYD JR.: The government has to start living up to its commitment, and they have 02:21.800 --> 02:25.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to start treating Black farmers with dignity and respect. 02:25.366 --> 02:30.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: The government has settled two class action lawsuits in the past 25 years. 02:30.266 --> 02:33.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% TOM VILSACK, U.S. Agriculture Secretary: Socially disadvantaged producers were discriminated 02:33.300 --> 02:35.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% against by the United States Department of Agriculture. 02:35.600 --> 02:37.633 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% We know this. 02:37.633 --> 02:41.000 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: And, in 2021, the Biden administration included billions in debt relief 02:41.000 --> 02:45.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% for minority farmers in its American Rescue Plan. 02:45.033 --> 02:50.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But lawsuits from white farmers, claiming reverse discrimination, held up the program. 02:52.500 --> 02:55.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% In response, Congress repealed it last August, instead setting aside money in the administration's 02:56.966 --> 02:59.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Inflation Reduction Act now for so-called distressed borrowers. 02:59.966 --> 03:02.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% WILLARD TILLMAN, Executive Director, Oklahoma Black Historical Research Project: There a 03:02.633 --> 03:06.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% lot of opportunities there under this administration that a lot of people are not taking advantage 03:06.666 --> 03:09.100 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% of. 03:09.100 --> 03:10.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: Willard Tillman;s organization is a resource that connects minority farmers 03:10.933 --> 03:13.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to complex government farm programs. 03:13.766 --> 03:18.266 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% He says there's a rare opportunity to bring these farmers into the system from which they 03:18.266 --> 03:20.333 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% felt alienated. 03:20.333 --> 03:23.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WILLARD TILLMAN: If they don't understand it, they're ain't going to mess with it. 03:23.900 --> 03:25.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So that is where we come in. 03:25.466 --> 03:26.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: They don't trust the government. 03:26.566 --> 03:28.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WILLARD TILLMAN: They trust me. 03:28.200 --> 03:30.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I don't take dirty water to them. 03:30.233 --> 03:32.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% If it is good for them, I tell them yes. 03:32.200 --> 03:34.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% If it's not good for them, I tell them no. 03:34.033 --> 03:36.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% LEROY BRINKLEY: Survive with these cows. 03:36.133 --> 03:38.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: With the help of Tillman's group, Leroy Brinkley enrolled in a program 03:38.766 --> 03:43.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% last year called CARE, Conservation and Agriculture Reach Everyone. 03:43.266 --> 03:45.700 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% LEROY BRINKLEY: Those blackbirds, you see how they started? 03:45.700 --> 03:50.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: It paid him $70 an acre for 40 acres, which he used to partner with 03:52.700 --> 03:55.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% a local elementary student to bring goats to graze on the invasive species. 03:55.700 --> 03:59.333 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% LEROY BRINKLEY: Want to try to get this covered with a cover crop. 03:59.333 --> 04:03.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: This year he has participating again, getting support to plant more grass 04:03.766 --> 04:05.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% for his herd to graze on. 04:05.300 --> 04:07.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% LEROY BRINKLEY: Fifteen hundred dollars in seed ought to get it. 04:07.700 --> 04:10.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% SARAH BLANEY, Oklahoma Association of Conservation Districts: Yes, well, time, yes, for your 04:10.466 --> 04:11.466 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% time. 04:11.466 --> 04:13.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% LEROY BRINKLEY: Yes. 04:13.466 --> 04:16.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: Sarah Blaney runs the Oklahoma Association of Conservation Districts, 04:16.533 --> 04:19.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which administers the admittedly modest CARE program. 04:19.400 --> 04:24.400 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% SARAH BLANEY: Our specific program is smaller, but our hope is that this is maybe the first 04:26.400 --> 04:30.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% introduction to that process and makes them a little bit more comfortable with the idea 04:32.300 --> 04:35.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of working with government, so that, when they're ready to go apply for those bigger 04:35.900 --> 04:38.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% contracts, they know the right questions to ask. 04:38.566 --> 04:41.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They know what their rights are. 04:41.100 --> 04:44.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: A more immediate challenge for Brinkley is the months-long drought across 04:44.166 --> 04:47.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Oklahoma, which has almost tripled hay prices this year. 04:47.933 --> 04:52.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So it costs you about 700 bucks per week to feed this group? 04:52.500 --> 04:53.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% LEROY BRINKLEY: Yes. 04:53.633 --> 04:55.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This is very expensive this year. 04:55.966 --> 05:00.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: Some of his expenses have been offset by a $50,000 loan he received 05:00.833 --> 05:05.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% through the Native Creek Nation, where he is an enrolled member, money that was guaranteed 05:06.433 --> 05:07.666 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% by the USDA. 05:07.666 --> 05:10.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% LEROY BRINKLEY: It did not grow me any. 05:10.000 --> 05:13.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It just kind of took the curves off some things. 05:13.533 --> 05:17.800 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Maybe the next time, the next go-around, when this operation is up fully and running, it 05:17.800 --> 05:20.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% may make a difference. 05:20.300 --> 05:23.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: The Black Farmers Association's Boyd applauds efforts like those in Oklahoma, 05:26.300 --> 05:29.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but he says the money now available is a fraction of what would have come to minority farmers 05:31.066 --> 05:33.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% under the debt relief program that was repealed. 05:33.000 --> 05:37.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JOHN BOYD JR.: We were promised 120 percent debt relief, and we didn't get it. 05:39.366 --> 05:44.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% It looks like to me, every time Black farmers are promised something in this country, we 05:44.666 --> 05:47.133 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% don't get it. 05:47.133 --> 05:50.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: The USDA declined an interview request, but, in a statement to "PBS NewsHour," 05:50.500 --> 05:55.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% said, given court injunctions that tied its hands, the goal was to get relief to farmers 05:57.400 --> 06:01.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% quickly, adding that: "The Inflation Reduction Act provided $3.1 billion that will allow 06:03.466 --> 06:08.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% USDA to work with distressed borrowers, and for those farmers that have suffered discrimination 06:09.933 --> 06:14.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% by the USDA farm loan programs, Congress allocated to $2.2 billion." 06:16.266 --> 06:20.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But Boyd says the government broke a promise and a contract with minority farmers, and 06:21.500 --> 06:23.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% he is suing the USDA. 06:23.466 --> 06:27.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JOHN BOYD JR.: When they changed the language to distressed, it opened it up, and white 06:27.100 --> 06:30.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% farmers were able to get their loans and stuff current. 06:30.900 --> 06:35.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% There are far more white farmers than there are Black farmers in this country. 06:35.900 --> 06:37.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% We are less than 1 percent. 06:37.800 --> 06:39.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% We are facing extinction. 06:39.800 --> 06:43.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: Back in the early 1900s, Black Americans owned some 16 million acres 06:45.866 --> 06:49.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of farmland, a number that was down by 90 percent by the turn of the 21st century. 06:51.700 --> 06:55.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Here in Oklahoma, there once were more than 50 all-Black towns built around agriculture. 06:57.066 --> 07:00.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Clearview is one of just 13 that survive today. 07:00.100 --> 07:04.933 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% SHIRLEY NERO, Resident of Clearview, Oklahoma: My family moved here in 1902, when the town 07:04.933 --> 07:05.933 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% was established. 07:05.933 --> 07:09.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% My dad had a 40-acre farm. 07:09.266 --> 07:11.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This is where I will stay until I pass away. 07:11.666 --> 07:16.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: Shirley Nero and her husband, Donnie, both had careers as educators, Donnie 07:18.066 --> 07:20.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% eventually becoming president of Connors State College. 07:20.466 --> 07:25.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But they were both pulled to return to this tiny town 80 miles east of Oklahoma City, 07:26.366 --> 07:28.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% population about 50. 07:28.333 --> 07:31.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% SHIRLEY NERO: Most of those people that settled here were freed men. 07:31.633 --> 07:36.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% When Oklahoma became a state in 1907, the first bill they passed was the Jim Crow law. 07:37.500 --> 07:38.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And this was a place of freedom. 07:38.900 --> 07:40.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They could express themselves. 07:40.466 --> 07:42.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They could actually support themselves. 07:42.500 --> 07:47.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: As the years went on, the population and Black-owned land eventually 07:48.233 --> 07:50.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% began to dwindle. 07:50.266 --> 07:53.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% SHIRLEY NERO: Our school got down to 32 in the high school, and then that is when they 07:54.400 --> 07:56.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% closed it, in '64. 07:56.433 --> 08:00.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: The Neros built their house and now breed cattle here, a rare reverse 08:02.033 --> 08:04.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% migration, they admit. 08:04.133 --> 08:08.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% DONNIE NERO, Rancher: We see so many of the young people today, their parents or grandparents 08:09.500 --> 08:12.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% have had land for so many years, but that almighty dollar speaks. 08:12.400 --> 08:17.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And, when it does, they are going to move, and the farms are going to be lost. 08:17.133 --> 08:22.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And when you lose the land that you have, and you now find yourself in a condominium 08:25.333 --> 08:29.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% somewhere, the value does not -- doesn't equate. 08:29.800 --> 08:34.800 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% FRED DE SAM LAZARO: For his part, Leroy Brinkley is open to participating in more farm programs, 08:36.766 --> 08:40.000 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% but, based on experience, says he is not counting on anyone but himself. 08:40.000 --> 08:43.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% LEROY BRINKLEY: I have got a little piece of a home. 08:43.700 --> 08:45.366 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% I'm satisfied. 08:45.366 --> 08:48.233 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% Had to move some hurdles out of the way, but I am making a go of it. 08:48.233 --> 08:52.766 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% For the "PBS NewsHour," I'm Fred de Sam Lazaro in Haskell, Oklahoma. 08:52.766 --> 08:57.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% AMNA NAWAZ: And Fred's reporting is a partnership with the Under-Told Stories Project at the 08:58.933 --> 09:01.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% University of St. Thomas in Minnesota. 09:01.433 --> 09:05.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And there is more online, including a look at the lives of Black farmers through a photographer's lens. 09:07.000 --> 09:10.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You can see those images at PBS.org/NewsHour.