WEBVTT 00:00.233 --> 00:00.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: FOR MORE ON THE 00:00.966 --> 00:02.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% RISE IN COVID CASES, INCLUDING 00:02.633 --> 00:03.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHAT THE LATEST VARIANT COULD 00:03.900 --> 00:05.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MEAN FOR CHILDREN NOT YET 00:05.266 --> 00:07.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ELIGIBLE FOR VACCINES, I SPOKE 00:07.100 --> 00:08.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WITH PROPUBLICA REPORTER 00:08.433 --> 00:10.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CAROLINE CHEN. 00:10.300 --> 00:11.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> I THINK THAT THIS IS A 00:11.533 --> 00:13.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PARTICULARLY DIFFICULT TIME, I 00:13.466 --> 00:14.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CAN IMAGINE, FOR A LOT OF 00:14.666 --> 00:16.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PARENTS, WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT, 00:16.433 --> 00:17.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% YOU KNOW, HOW CAN I PROTECT MY 00:17.933 --> 00:18.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% KID? 00:18.366 --> 00:19.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WE WANT THEM TO GO BACK TO 00:19.166 --> 00:19.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SCHOOL. 00:19.733 --> 00:20.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SCHOOLS MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN 00:20.800 --> 00:23.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OPENED AND BACK IN SESSION. 00:23.233 --> 00:24.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO I THINK THE THING THAT WE 00:24.566 --> 00:26.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% KNOW FOR SURE ABOUT THE DELTA 00:26.033 --> 00:27.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VARIANT IS THAT IT IS MORE 00:27.566 --> 00:30.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CONTAGIOUS, AT LEAST, THAN THE 00:30.066 --> 00:32.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WILD TYPE VARIANT. 00:32.500 --> 00:34.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHAT'S MUCH HARDER FOR US TO 00:34.766 --> 00:36.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ASSESS CLEARLY WHEN IT COMES TO 00:36.400 --> 00:38.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THESE VARIANTS IS WHETHER THEY 00:38.333 --> 00:40.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ARE ACTUALLY CAUSING MORE SEVERE 00:40.933 --> 00:42.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DISEASE, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY 00:42.400 --> 00:44.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT SORT 00:44.033 --> 00:44.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OF ASSESSMENT. 00:44.933 --> 00:48.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO, NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, WHO'S 00:48.533 --> 00:50.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GETTING SICK, HOW HEALTHY ARE 00:50.100 --> 00:51.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THEY IN THE FIRST PLACE, BUT 00:51.366 --> 00:52.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ALSO THINGS LIKE HOSPITAL 00:52.400 --> 00:53.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CAPACITY, RIGHT, AND WHAT ARE 00:53.566 --> 00:54.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THE RESOURCES? 00:54.366 --> 00:55.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THOSE CAN ALL AFFECT OUTCOMES. 00:55.866 --> 00:57.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, 00:57.333 --> 00:58.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THERE'S NO SORT OF SUPER-CLEAR 00:58.866 --> 01:00.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SIGNAL THAT THE DELTA VARIANT IS 01:00.233 --> 01:01.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GOING TO BE MORE DANGEROUS TO 01:01.866 --> 01:04.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% KIDS, PARTICULARLY; HAVE WORSE 01:04.833 --> 01:06.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OUTCOMES FOR KIDS. 01:06.166 --> 01:08.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY SORT OF THAT 01:08.333 --> 01:09.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SIGNAL. 01:09.166 --> 01:11.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BUT UNDERSTANDABLY, IF YOUR KID 01:11.033 --> 01:12.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IS GOING BACK TO SCHOOL, THINGS 01:12.500 --> 01:14.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ARE OPENING UP, YOU COULD STILL 01:14.066 --> 01:15.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 01:15.866 --> 01:17.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND SO, UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK 01:17.333 --> 01:19.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THERE IS STILL A LITTLE BIT OF 01:19.500 --> 01:20.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TIME UNTIL THERE'S GOING TO BE 01:20.900 --> 01:22.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VACCINES AVAILABLE FOR THE 01:22.533 --> 01:23.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% UNDER-12s. 01:23.666 --> 01:25.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: SO, CAROLINE, 01:25.033 --> 01:26.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THERE-- AND I SHOULD PUT THIS IN 01:26.666 --> 01:27.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PERSPECTIVE. 01:27.833 --> 01:29.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHEN WE SPOKE IN THE WINTER, THE 01:29.400 --> 01:31.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% NUMBERS WERE HORRENDOUS. 01:31.133 --> 01:32.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO IF THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS 01:32.533 --> 01:34.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HERE, IT'S THAT COLLECTIVELY 01:34.266 --> 01:36.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SPEAKING, WE ARE DOING FAR 01:36.200 --> 01:38.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BETTER THAN THE WORST OF WHAT 01:38.633 --> 01:40.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THIS VIRUS DID TO US, IN TERMS 01:40.400 --> 01:42.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OF CASES AND HOSPITALIZATIONS 01:42.500 --> 01:43.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND DEATHS. 01:43.933 --> 01:45.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HOWEVER, IF YOU START TO ZOOM IN 01:45.966 --> 01:49.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ON THE MAP, INTO SPECIFIC AREAS, 01:49.466 --> 01:51.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% YOU START TO HEAR AND SEE 01:51.100 --> 01:52.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% STORIES OF HOSPITALS THAT ARE 01:52.933 --> 01:54.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% FILLING UP AGAIN. 01:54.600 --> 01:57.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND IT'S MOSTLY IN PLACES WHERE 01:57.100 --> 01:58.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THERE ARE LARGE POPULATIONS OF 01:58.633 --> 02:00.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% UNVACCINATED PEOPLE. 02:00.466 --> 02:01.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> RIGHT. 02:01.200 --> 02:02.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I MEAN, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS 02:02.700 --> 02:03.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% JUST WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT 02:03.733 --> 02:04.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SCIENTIFICALLY, AND IT'S BEARING 02:04.900 --> 02:06.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OUT HERE. 02:06.066 --> 02:09.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHERE THE VIRUS IS GOING TO 02:09.100 --> 02:11.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% INFECT AND GO AFTER-- YOU KNOW, 02:11.200 --> 02:12.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I DON'T WANT TO ANTHROPOMORPHIZE 02:12.933 --> 02:14.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THE VIRUS HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, 02:14.400 --> 02:16.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THE VIRUS WILL MORE LIKELY BE 02:16.866 --> 02:18.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ABLE TO INFECT SOMEBODY WHO'S 02:18.133 --> 02:18.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% UNVACCINATED. 02:18.933 --> 02:20.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT'’’S JUST A FACT THERE. 02:20.200 --> 02:21.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO IF YOU HAVE CLUSTERS OF 02:21.866 --> 02:23.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PEOPLE WHO ARE UNVACCINATED AND 02:23.866 --> 02:25.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% STATES ARE OPENING UP AND NOT 02:25.100 --> 02:26.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% REQUIRING PEOPLE TO STAY AT HOME 02:26.500 --> 02:28.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OR WEAR MASKS, IT'S 02:28.466 --> 02:30.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% UNFORTUNATELY INEVITABLE THAT 02:30.133 --> 02:31.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% YOU WILL START TO SEE CASES 02:31.366 --> 02:32.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SURGE IN THOSE AREAS. 02:32.866 --> 02:34.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO, THAT'’’S ZOOMING WAY IN. 02:34.633 --> 02:36.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ZOOMING WAY OUT, AND LOOKING 02:36.066 --> 02:38.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BEYOND OUR BORDERS, YOU ALSO SEE 02:38.733 --> 02:39.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE 02:39.733 --> 02:41.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% UNFORTUNATELY SWAMPED. 02:41.966 --> 02:44.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% YOU KNOW, IN SOME COUNTRIES, 02:44.766 --> 02:46.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IT'S THE WORST THE PANDEMIC HAS 02:46.166 --> 02:47.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BEEN SO FAR, FOR THEM. 02:47.633 --> 02:49.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND ALSO, THIS IS OFTEN 02:49.133 --> 02:50.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CORRELATED WITH EXTREMELY LOW 02:50.400 --> 02:52.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VACCINATION RATES. 02:52.433 --> 02:55.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: SO, WHEN WE HAVE 02:55.933 --> 02:58.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THESE SORT OF FORCES COMBINING, 02:58.100 --> 02:59.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MEANING, WE'VE GOT COUNTRIES WHO 02:59.966 --> 03:01.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% STILL DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO 03:01.266 --> 03:02.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VACCINES, WE'VE GOT POCKETS IN 03:02.933 --> 03:04.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THE UNITED STATES WHERE PEOPLE, 03:04.700 --> 03:06.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% FOR WHATEVER REASON, CHOOSE NOT 03:06.166 --> 03:07.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TO TAKE THEM. 03:07.766 --> 03:09.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE IS AN 03:09.933 --> 03:13.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR AMERICANS 03:13.966 --> 03:16.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TO KIND OF BREED THE NEXT 03:16.200 --> 03:17.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VARIANT OF THE VIRUS? 03:17.566 --> 03:18.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I MEAN, DOES THE VIRUS HAVE A 03:18.800 --> 03:20.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BETTER CHANCE OF ESCAPING 03:20.800 --> 03:23.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IMMUNITY IN POPULATIONS WHERE 03:23.400 --> 03:25.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE ARE 03:25.300 --> 03:27.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VACCINATED? 03:27.333 --> 03:28.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> WELL, I THINK ANY TIME 03:28.500 --> 03:30.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SOMEBODY GETS INFECTED, IT IS 03:30.333 --> 03:32.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE VIRUS TO 03:32.200 --> 03:32.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MUTATE. 03:32.900 --> 03:34.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS 03:34.200 --> 03:35.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IS JUST SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, 03:35.333 --> 03:37.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THERE'S NO MALICIOUS INTENT HERE 03:37.166 --> 03:37.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WITH THE VIRUS. 03:37.733 --> 03:39.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IT'S JUST, AS IT COPIES ITSELF, 03:39.133 --> 03:40.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SOMETIMES MISTAKES HAPPEN AND 03:40.566 --> 03:42.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT CREATES A MUTATION. 03:42.900 --> 03:45.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% NOT EVERY MUTATION IS A VARIANT 03:45.000 --> 03:47.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT WE WOULD EVEN CARE ABOUT. 03:47.300 --> 03:49.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% A LOT OF THEM MAY BECOME WEAKER. 03:49.533 --> 03:52.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT IS-- IT IS 03:52.733 --> 03:55.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% A GAME OF CHANCES, IN A WAY. 03:55.633 --> 03:56.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% YOU KNOW, IF WE GIVE IT LOTS AND 03:56.833 --> 03:58.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO 03:58.700 --> 04:00.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CONTINUE INFECTING PEOPLE, THERE 04:00.733 --> 04:01.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ARE MORE CHANCES FOR IT TO 04:01.633 --> 04:02.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MUTATE, AND THERE ARE MORE 04:02.533 --> 04:03.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CHANCES FOR ONE OF THOSE TO 04:03.633 --> 04:05.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BECOME A VARIANT THAT WE ARE 04:05.333 --> 04:06.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% EVEN MORE CONCERNED ABOUT. 04:06.833 --> 04:08.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, OVER 04:08.333 --> 04:09.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TIME, WITH EVOLUTION, THE ONES 04:09.733 --> 04:10.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT ARE STRONGER ARE GOING TO 04:10.700 --> 04:11.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WIN OUT. 04:11.533 --> 04:12.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND WE'RE VERY LUCKY SO FAR THAT 04:12.800 --> 04:14.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THE VACCINES ARE AT LEAST 04:14.200 --> 04:16.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SOMEWHAT EFFECTIVE AGAINST ALL 04:16.133 --> 04:17.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OF THE VARIANTS OF CONCERN THAT 04:17.700 --> 04:19.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WE'’’RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. 04:19.400 --> 04:20.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO 04:20.366 --> 04:21.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BE TRUE ALWAYS. 04:21.800 --> 04:23.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO I THINK ABOUT, LIKE, WHAT ARE 04:23.433 --> 04:25.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THE PARTS THAT WE CAN CONTROL TO 04:25.466 --> 04:27.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MAKE THE OUTCOMES BETTER, RIGHT? 04:27.200 --> 04:28.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED 04:28.333 --> 04:29.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% EARLIER, THERE ARE FACTORS THAT 04:29.700 --> 04:31.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ARE NOT SORT OF INHERENT TO THE 04:31.133 --> 04:32.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VIRUS, THINGS LIKE WHAT 04:32.500 --> 04:34.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE, HOW-- 04:34.600 --> 04:36.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HOW FULL ARE THE HOSPITALS. 04:36.400 --> 04:37.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ALL OF THESE SORTS OF THINGS CAN 04:37.966 --> 04:39.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AFFECT THE OUTCOMES. 04:39.633 --> 04:42.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND VACCINATIONS, RIGHT. 04:42.800 --> 04:44.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE 04:44.233 --> 04:45.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CAN ACT ON. 04:45.100 --> 04:47.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO, I FEEL THEN THAT IF YOU'RE 04:47.400 --> 04:49.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AN ADULT WHO'S ELIGIBLE FOR THE 04:49.466 --> 04:50.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VACCINE AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY 04:50.766 --> 04:53.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MEDICAL CONCERNS, THAT'S YOUR 04:53.733 --> 04:55.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WAY OF BEING ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE 04:55.633 --> 04:57.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TO CHANGING THE OUTCOMES HERE, 04:57.500 --> 04:58.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% FOR EVERYONE. 04:58.900 --> 04:59.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: WHAT ARE YOU 04:59.833 --> 05:01.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HEARING FROM EXPERTS, WHEN IT 05:01.133 --> 05:02.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% COMES TO FIGURING OUT HOW TO GET 05:02.566 --> 05:05.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT LAST 20% OR 30% VACCINATED? 05:05.766 --> 05:07.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> YEAH, I THINK THE FIRST THING 05:07.100 --> 05:08.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS, 05:08.433 --> 05:10.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHATEVER THE PERCENTAGE OF 05:10.833 --> 05:12.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PEOPLE IN YOUR REGION WHO 05:12.500 --> 05:13.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HAVEN'T BEEN VACCINATED YET, 05:13.833 --> 05:15.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THEY'’’RE NOT A MONOLITH. 05:15.133 --> 05:17.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO, THERE'S NOT ONE REASON OR 05:17.566 --> 05:18.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ONE ANSWER. 05:18.233 --> 05:20.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MAYBE 05:20.066 --> 05:21.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% EASIER FOR PUBLIC HEALTH 05:21.166 --> 05:22.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OFFICIALS TO COMBAT, BUT 05:22.666 --> 05:23.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S NOT THE 05:23.600 --> 05:24.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CASE. 05:24.233 --> 05:25.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE A GROUP 05:25.533 --> 05:27.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OF DIE-HARD, "NEVER GOING TO GET 05:27.200 --> 05:29.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% A VACCINE, NOTHING YOU SAY CAN 05:29.266 --> 05:31.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CONVINCE ME," WHETHER THAT'S 05:31.433 --> 05:32.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME 05:32.666 --> 05:33.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MISINFORMATION AT HAND THAT 05:33.800 --> 05:35.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THEY'RE BELIEVING, OR WHETHER 05:35.200 --> 05:37.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IT'S, YOU KNOW, A GRAND 05:37.033 --> 05:38.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CONSPIRACY THEORY TO THEM. 05:38.400 --> 05:39.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LIKE, THEY'RE-- UNFORTUNATELY, 05:39.966 --> 05:41.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THEY'RE JUST GOING TO BE PEOPLE 05:41.033 --> 05:42.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHO ARE NEVER GOING TO ACCEPT 05:42.266 --> 05:43.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VACCINATIONS. 05:43.233 --> 05:44.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BUT THERE ARE MANY OTHER PEOPLE 05:44.100 --> 05:45.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHO WE'VE SEEN OVER THE COURSE 05:45.366 --> 05:46.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OF THE PANDEMIC WHO STARTED OUT 05:46.666 --> 05:48.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WITH SOME QUESTIONS OR DOUBTS-- 05:48.900 --> 05:50.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% A LOT OF THEM WHICH WERE VERY 05:50.166 --> 05:51.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% VALID. 05:51.000 --> 05:51.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% YOU KNOW, WANTING TO SEE MORE 05:51.833 --> 05:53.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DATA, WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE 05:53.100 --> 05:54.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SAFETY PROFILE. 05:54.433 --> 05:55.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MAYBE THAT THEY WERE CONFUSED BY 05:55.866 --> 05:57.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MISINFORMATION THAT WAS GOING 05:57.033 --> 05:58.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AROUND ON THE INTERNET. 05:58.500 --> 06:00.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO 06:00.366 --> 06:01.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HAVE THOSE ONE-ON-ONE 06:01.366 --> 06:02.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CONVERSATIONS WITH THEIR 06:02.800 --> 06:04.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PROVIDER, YOU KNOW, WITH A 06:04.200 --> 06:06.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% FAMILY MEMBER WHO COULD KIND OF 06:06.466 --> 06:07.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TALK THEM THROUGH THEIR FEARS. 06:07.533 --> 06:08.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT'S WHAT SORT OF CHANGED 06:08.433 --> 06:09.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THEIR MIND. 06:09.233 --> 06:11.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND SO I THINK THAT THERE IS 06:11.600 --> 06:13.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% STILL A GOOD PERCENTAGE THAT CAN 06:13.100 --> 06:16.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BE CONVINCED OVER TIME WITH 06:16.266 --> 06:17.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% REPEATED CONVERSATIONS. 06:17.766 --> 06:19.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND I THINK THAT IT IS DOING A 06:19.466 --> 06:21.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DISSERVICE TO FOLKS WHO HAVE 06:21.333 --> 06:23.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CONCERNS AND FEARS TO JUST SAY, 06:23.666 --> 06:24.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO LUMP 06:24.933 --> 06:26.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% YOU IN WITH PEOPLE AND SAY, 06:26.566 --> 06:28.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LIKE, YOU'’’RE A LOST CAUSE HERE. 06:28.300 --> 06:29.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: CAROLINE CHEN OF 06:29.400 --> 06:30.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PROPUBLICA, THANKS SO MUCH FOR 06:30.333 --> 06:31.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% JOINING US. 06:31.433 --> 06:32.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. 06:32.500 --> 06:36.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GOOD TO SEE YOU.