WEBVTT 00:02.033 --> 00:05.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: The next stage of the impeachment process against President Trump is at hand. 00:07.266 --> 00:10.333 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% Word came today that the presentation of evidence will take place on Monday, with the formal 00:10.333 --> 00:13.633 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% crafting of articles of impeachment to follow immediately. 00:13.633 --> 00:17.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Congressional correspondent Lisa Desjardins begins our coverage. 00:17.066 --> 00:22.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: At a Capitol podium reserved for the most formal or profound moments, the 00:23.233 --> 00:24.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% speaker of the House made her announcement. 00:24.700 --> 00:25.933 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% REP. 00:25.933 --> 00:27.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% NANCY PELOSI (D-CA): The facts are uncontested. 00:27.966 --> 00:32.566 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% The president abused his power for his own personal political benefit, at the expense 00:33.433 --> 00:35.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of our national security. 00:35.566 --> 00:39.166 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Sadly, but with confidence and humility, with allegiance to our founders and heart a full 00:41.466 --> 00:46.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of love for America, today, I am asking our chairman to proceed with articles of impeachment. 00:48.600 --> 00:53.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: Speaker Pelosi said the president's actions have left lawmakers no choice. 00:53.500 --> 00:58.166 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But hours after returning from a NATO summit in Europe, President Trump had a few words 00:58.166 --> 00:59.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% about impeachment. 00:59.866 --> 01:02.066 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States: It's a big, fat hoax. 01:02.066 --> 01:05.466 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: He was more verbal on Twitter, writing earlier in the day: "If you are going 01:05.466 --> 01:10.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% to impeach me, do it now, fast," saying he wants to move to a Senate trial. 01:12.466 --> 01:16.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And on the Senate floor, a key player in any future trial, Senate Majority Leader Mitch 01:16.033 --> 01:19.833 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% McConnell, joined the president in lashing out at Democrats' process. 01:19.833 --> 01:21.766 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% SEN. 01:21.766 --> 01:25.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY): American families deserve better than this partisan paralysis, 01:25.700 --> 01:30.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% where Democrats literally obsess over impeachment and obstruct everything else. 01:32.766 --> 01:36.266 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy said Democrats have not proven their 01:36.266 --> 01:37.266 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% case. 01:37.266 --> 01:39.300 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% REP. 01:39.300 --> 01:40.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% KEVIN MCCARTHY (R-CA): That this is so divisive, you need something overwhelming, you need 01:40.833 --> 01:43.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% something compelling, and it doesn't meet the criteria. 01:43.400 --> 01:45.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The party means more to them than the country. 01:45.933 --> 01:50.633 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: Republicans have pushed the idea that Democrats are acting out of anger. 01:50.633 --> 01:53.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That led to another remarkable moment today. 01:53.866 --> 01:58.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% As Speaker Pelosi left her weekly news conference, a reporter asked if she hates the president. 01:59.333 --> 02:00.600 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% REP. 02:00.600 --> 02:02.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% NANCY PELOSI: I don't hate anybody. 02:02.066 --> 02:04.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% QUESTION: Representative Collins -- reason I asked... 02:04.133 --> 02:05.633 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% REP. 02:05.633 --> 02:07.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% NANCY PELOSI: I don't -- I was raised in a Catholic house. 02:07.100 --> 02:09.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We don't hate anybody, not anybody in the world. 02:09.133 --> 02:11.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: Pelosi stopped in her tracks and firmly said impeachment is not personal. 02:11.100 --> 02:13.200 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% REP. 02:13.200 --> 02:15.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% NANCY PELOSI: This is about the Constitution of the United States and the facts that lead 02:15.900 --> 02:18.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to the president's violation of his oath of office. 02:18.533 --> 02:22.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And, as a Catholic, I resent, your using the word hate in a sentence that addresses me. 02:22.600 --> 02:26.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So, don't mess with me when it comes to words like that. 02:26.066 --> 02:30.166 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: Partisan lines and powerful sentiments will keep mounting. 02:30.166 --> 02:34.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Next, the House Judiciary Committee plans a hearing Monday to look at the evidence for 02:34.700 --> 02:39.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% impeachment and the 300-page report about that evidence from the House Intelligence 02:39.666 --> 02:41.700 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Committee. 02:41.700 --> 02:44.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: And now to help walk us through what's next for Congress and its impeachment 02:44.833 --> 02:47.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% inquiry, Lisa joins me. 02:47.033 --> 02:50.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So, Lisa, as you said, they're holding this hearing on Monday. 02:50.633 --> 02:51.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% How is it going to be different? 02:51.900 --> 02:53.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% What do we expect? 02:53.100 --> 02:55.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: Let's talk about this. 02:55.066 --> 02:57.400 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% This could be the most substantial hearing that we see before articles of impeachment 02:57.400 --> 02:58.400 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% come out. 02:58.400 --> 03:01.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So, let's talk about this. 03:01.033 --> 03:03.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% First, this is what we're going to see, presentation of the Democrats' impeachment report from 03:03.366 --> 03:05.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the House Intelligence Committee. 03:05.300 --> 03:10.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% There will be witnesses who will be staff counsel, Republican and Democratic counsel. 03:11.200 --> 03:13.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We don't know yet how many or exactly who. 03:13.300 --> 03:17.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And both sides, Republicans and Democrats, will both be able to question those witnesses. 03:17.266 --> 03:22.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Essentially, Judy, it's as if a prosecuting team, the counsel for the Democrats, will 03:24.233 --> 03:26.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% present their evidence that charges should be brought, impeachment charges, and then 03:26.633 --> 03:31.166 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the defense team, the Republican counsel, will try and present their arguments that, 03:31.166 --> 03:33.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% no, there's not enough evidence for impeachment. 03:33.200 --> 03:37.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: So, do we know -- they're going to move ahead, so do we know the timing of 03:38.600 --> 03:40.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% when the full House would vote? 03:40.233 --> 03:42.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: No, we don't. 03:42.200 --> 03:46.133 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% But I am told that the announcement today doesn't change the timing, that they still 03:46.133 --> 03:50.766 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% seem to be on track for a possible committee vote on articles of impeachment as soon as 03:50.766 --> 03:54.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% next week and a possible full House vote the following week. 03:54.866 --> 03:58.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I don't know that it is set in stone yet, but that seems to be the track that they remain 03:58.733 --> 04:00.900 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% on. 04:00.900 --> 04:03.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% One big question of course, Judy, is still whether the president will participate. 04:03.600 --> 04:08.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% If he decides to -- and he has until tomorrow night to make that decision, per Democrats' 04:08.133 --> 04:12.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% deadline -- that will change the timeline, because he can try and ask for witnesses, 04:12.866 --> 04:14.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% all of those things. 04:14.233 --> 04:16.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Will he want to participate? 04:16.166 --> 04:20.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I spoke to Kevin McCarthy, just asked him personally, will the president participate? 04:22.500 --> 04:25.533 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% McCarthy doesn't usually say yes or no, doesn't give clear answers about the president often. 04:25.533 --> 04:28.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% He indicated to me he doesn't think the president should participate. 04:28.333 --> 04:31.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% To me, that's a strong signal that the president is leaning toward no. 04:31.833 --> 04:33.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: So perhaps he's recommending it? 04:33.633 --> 04:35.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% LISA DESJARDINS: He didn't say that. 04:35.033 --> 04:37.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I know he's talking to the president. 04:37.166 --> 04:40.233 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% So I don't know who's recommending what, but he's certainly gauging the temperature at 04:40.233 --> 04:41.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% the White House very closely. 04:41.500 --> 04:43.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: What about the Democrats? 04:43.300 --> 04:45.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% How unified are they on this? 04:45.466 --> 04:47.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We assume Republicans are still all against it. 04:47.833 --> 04:48.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% But what about that? 04:48.833 --> 04:50.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: That's right. 04:50.933 --> 04:53.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% So, if you talk to Democrats, the most interesting group, of course, are those moderates. 04:53.200 --> 04:57.433 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% There are 31 Democrats who are in districts that the president won. 04:57.433 --> 05:00.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I spoke to several of those offices today. 05:00.100 --> 05:03.800 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And where they're at is, they are waiting to see exactly what is in these articles of 05:03.800 --> 05:05.766 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% impeachment. 05:05.766 --> 05:09.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Multiple offices told me it is very possible that they could vote yes on some articles 05:11.866 --> 05:15.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of impeachment, those moderate Democrats, and no on other articles of impeachment when 05:16.066 --> 05:17.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% they hit the House floor. 05:17.533 --> 05:21.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Nancy Pelosi needs 218 votes for any article of impeachment. 05:21.166 --> 05:25.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% We will have to see how they draft them to see if she will get those votes on all of 05:25.866 --> 05:28.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% the articles that they present. 05:28.333 --> 05:30.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Republicans I'm watching closely too, we will see. 05:30.500 --> 05:33.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% If public opinion changes, some Republican votes could peel off as well. 05:33.733 --> 05:36.866 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: But what she needs is a simple majority at the House? 05:36.866 --> 05:38.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: That's correct. 05:38.366 --> 05:39.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% At this point, the standard in the Senate is much higher. 05:39.566 --> 05:42.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But, at this point, it's a simple majority. 05:42.400 --> 05:43.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Lisa Desjardins, thank you. 05:43.533 --> 05:43.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LISA DESJARDINS: You're welcome.