1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:00,800 >> Sreenivasan: JOINING US NOW 2 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,302 FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., IS OSITA 3 00:00:02,302 --> 00:00:03,903 NWANEVU, A REPORTER FOR THE "NEW 4 00:00:03,903 --> 00:00:05,438 YORKER" WHO COVERS POLITICS AND 5 00:00:05,438 --> 00:00:07,140 POLICY AND WHO HAS BEEN COVERING 6 00:00:07,140 --> 00:00:08,341 THE EVENTS AT THE CONSERVATIVE 7 00:00:08,341 --> 00:00:09,843 POLITICAL ACTION CONFERENCE. 8 00:00:09,843 --> 00:00:10,877 WHAT WAS THE BIG THEME THIS 9 00:00:10,877 --> 00:00:11,678 YEAR? 10 00:00:11,678 --> 00:00:13,013 >> WELL, THE BIG THEME THIS YEAR 11 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:15,281 I THINK WAS BASICALLY SOCIALISM. 12 00:00:15,281 --> 00:00:16,783 THAT WAS A THROUGHLINE THROUGH 13 00:00:16,783 --> 00:00:19,152 EVERY MAJOR SPEECH THAT YOU 14 00:00:19,152 --> 00:00:20,620 HEARD, NOT ONLY FROM PRESIDENT 15 00:00:20,620 --> 00:00:22,088 TRUMP AND VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, 16 00:00:22,088 --> 00:00:23,890 BUT ALL OF THE SORT OF "B-LIST" 17 00:00:23,890 --> 00:00:24,657 SPEAKERS, AS WELL. 18 00:00:24,657 --> 00:00:26,126 THERE WAS A BIG INTRO VIDEO THAT 19 00:00:26,126 --> 00:00:27,460 THEY SHOWED MULTIPLE TIMES 20 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:28,962 DURING THE CONVENTION THAT 21 00:00:28,962 --> 00:00:30,230 FEATURED CLIPS OF BERNIE 22 00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:32,432 SANDERS, ALEXANDRA OCASIO-CORTEZ 23 00:00:32,432 --> 00:00:33,767 AND OTHER DEMOCRATIC FIGURES WHO 24 00:00:33,767 --> 00:00:35,168 THEY THINK ARE EMBRACING 25 00:00:35,168 --> 00:00:37,070 LEFT-WING POLICIES THAT ARE 26 00:00:37,070 --> 00:00:38,238 GOING TO BE TOO FAR LEFT FOR THE 27 00:00:38,238 --> 00:00:38,738 ELECTORATE. 28 00:00:38,738 --> 00:00:40,006 WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OBVIOUSLY 29 00:00:40,006 --> 00:00:41,207 REMAINS TO BE SEEN. 30 00:00:41,207 --> 00:00:41,941 >> Sreenivasan: THE REPUBLICANS 31 00:00:41,941 --> 00:00:43,376 HAVE BEEN DOING THAT AND USING 32 00:00:43,376 --> 00:00:45,378 SOCIALISM AS A MEANS TO TAR THE 33 00:00:45,378 --> 00:00:46,880 LEFT WITH FOR A LONG TIME. 34 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:48,314 NOW, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? 35 00:00:48,314 --> 00:00:49,883 THAT THEY HAVE EVIDENCE? 36 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:50,950 THAT THEY HAVE MEMBERS OF THE 37 00:00:50,950 --> 00:00:53,319 OTHER PARTY CLAIMING MEMBERSHIP? 38 00:00:53,319 --> 00:00:54,254 >> WELL, THEY DO HAVE SOME 39 00:00:54,254 --> 00:00:55,588 CANDIDATES LIKE BERNIE SANDERS, 40 00:00:55,588 --> 00:00:57,123 OBVIOUSLY, WHO ACTUALLY STARTED 41 00:00:57,123 --> 00:00:58,558 HIS CAMPAIGN WITH AN EVENT IN 42 00:00:58,558 --> 00:01:00,326 BROOKLYN TODAY, WHO'S GOING 43 00:01:00,326 --> 00:01:01,294 AROUND CALLING HIMSELF A 44 00:01:01,294 --> 00:01:02,328 DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST FOR A 45 00:01:02,328 --> 00:01:02,762 LONG TIME. 46 00:01:02,762 --> 00:01:03,797 PEOPLE LIKE ALEXANDRA OCASIO- 47 00:01:03,797 --> 00:01:05,131 CORTEZ. 48 00:01:05,131 --> 00:01:06,166 I PERSONALLY WOULD BE VERY 49 00:01:06,166 --> 00:01:07,233 SKEPTICAL THAT THIS IS SOMETHING 50 00:01:07,233 --> 00:01:08,568 THAT'S GOING TO SEEM NEW AND 51 00:01:08,568 --> 00:01:09,669 FRESH TO THE ELECTORATE WHO 52 00:01:09,669 --> 00:01:11,304 HEARD THESE KINDS OF CLAIMS. 53 00:01:11,304 --> 00:01:12,205 YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT 54 00:01:12,205 --> 00:01:13,473 THE RECORD OF PRESIDENTIAL 55 00:01:13,473 --> 00:01:15,608 ELECTIONS, THE PAST THREE, THEY 56 00:01:15,608 --> 00:01:17,243 CALLED OBAMA "TOO FAR LEFT" IN 57 00:01:17,243 --> 00:01:18,411 2008. 58 00:01:18,411 --> 00:01:19,579 DIDN'T WIN. 59 00:01:19,579 --> 00:01:20,413 THEY CALLED HIM THE SAME IN 60 00:01:20,413 --> 00:01:21,548 2012. 61 00:01:21,548 --> 00:01:22,315 THEY DIDN'T WIN. 62 00:01:22,315 --> 00:01:24,584 BY CONTRAST, TRUMP, WHO DID 63 00:01:24,584 --> 00:01:25,552 SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME 64 00:01:25,552 --> 00:01:27,554 CALLING HILARY TOO FAR LEFT, 65 00:01:27,554 --> 00:01:28,621 ACTUALLY FOCUSED MOST OF HIS 66 00:01:28,621 --> 00:01:30,323 CAMPAIGN IN CALLING CLINTON 67 00:01:30,323 --> 00:01:32,525 CORRUPT AND A MEMBER OF SORT OF 68 00:01:32,525 --> 00:01:34,027 THE POLITICAL ELITE-- IF 69 00:01:34,027 --> 00:01:36,362 ANYTHING, TOO CLOSE TO THE RICH. 70 00:01:36,362 --> 00:01:37,230 TODAY, HE TALKED ABOUT THE 71 00:01:37,230 --> 00:01:38,298 RULING CLASS IN HIS SPEECH TO 72 00:01:38,298 --> 00:01:40,834 CPAC, AND THAT KIND OF APPROACH 73 00:01:40,834 --> 00:01:41,901 SET HIM APART FROM OTHER 74 00:01:41,901 --> 00:01:42,836 REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES. 75 00:01:42,836 --> 00:01:43,703 AND HE DID, OBVIOUSLY, WIN THE 76 00:01:43,703 --> 00:01:44,871 ELECTION. 77 00:01:44,871 --> 00:01:46,239 SO, IF I WERE TRUMP OR PEOPLE 78 00:01:46,239 --> 00:01:47,340 ADVISING TRUMP, I'D BE VERY 79 00:01:47,340 --> 00:01:49,409 SKEPTICAL OF DITCHING THAT KIND 80 00:01:49,409 --> 00:01:50,877 OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE. 81 00:01:50,877 --> 00:01:51,411 >> Sreenivasan: THE 82 00:01:51,411 --> 00:01:52,846 CONSERVATIVES HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT 83 00:01:52,846 --> 00:01:53,713 TO CELEBRATE. 84 00:01:53,713 --> 00:01:54,914 I MEAN, THEY CAN LOOK AT THE 85 00:01:54,914 --> 00:01:56,082 ADMINISTRATION'S RECORD ON 86 00:01:56,082 --> 00:01:57,517 DEREGULATING THINGS. 87 00:01:57,517 --> 00:01:59,352 THEY CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT THE 88 00:01:59,352 --> 00:02:00,620 SUCCESSFUL NOMINATION OF TWO 89 00:02:00,620 --> 00:02:02,088 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES NOW THAT 90 00:02:02,088 --> 00:02:04,090 THINK A LOT MORE LIKE THEM THAN 91 00:02:04,090 --> 00:02:05,458 THE PREVIOUS APPOINTEES. 92 00:02:05,458 --> 00:02:06,126 >> I THINK THAT'S TRUE. 93 00:02:06,126 --> 00:02:07,127 OBVIOUSLY, THE TAX CUTS, AS 94 00:02:07,127 --> 00:02:07,560 WELL. 95 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:08,628 THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT 96 00:02:08,628 --> 00:02:09,863 DURING THE CONFERENCE. 97 00:02:09,863 --> 00:02:10,697 THERE ARE THINGS THEY CAN TICK 98 00:02:10,697 --> 00:02:11,064 OFF. 99 00:02:11,064 --> 00:02:12,298 I THINK THE REAL QUESTION NOW 100 00:02:12,298 --> 00:02:13,867 IS, WITH THE DEMOCRATS IN 101 00:02:13,867 --> 00:02:15,001 CONTROL OF THE HOUSE, HOW MANY 102 00:02:15,001 --> 00:02:16,002 MORE VICTORIES ARE THERE GOING 103 00:02:16,002 --> 00:02:17,537 TO BE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? 104 00:02:17,537 --> 00:02:18,371 SO, IT WILL BE REALLY 105 00:02:18,371 --> 00:02:19,539 INTERESTING TO SEE HOW TRUMP 106 00:02:19,539 --> 00:02:20,807 CONTINUES TO TRY TO STOKE 107 00:02:20,807 --> 00:02:23,143 HIS BASE AND THE ABSENCE OF REAL 108 00:02:23,143 --> 00:02:24,310 VICTORIES HE CAN DELIVER THEM. 109 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:25,111 OBVIOUSLY, HE'S TRYING TO DO 110 00:02:25,111 --> 00:02:25,979 THAT WITH THE NATIONAL 111 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:27,914 EMERGENCY HE DECLARED OVER THE 112 00:02:27,914 --> 00:02:28,414 WALL. 113 00:02:28,414 --> 00:02:29,949 WE'LL SEE IF THAT ACTUALLY PANS 114 00:02:29,949 --> 00:02:31,317 OUT INTO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING 115 00:02:31,317 --> 00:02:32,719 TO GET SECTIONS OF THAT WALL 116 00:02:32,719 --> 00:02:34,053 REALLY BUILT. 117 00:02:34,053 --> 00:02:34,921 BUT HE'S REALLY GOING TO 118 00:02:34,921 --> 00:02:38,158 STRUGGLE TO DELIVER NOT ONLY 119 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:39,993 CAMPAIGN PROMISES BUT SORT OF ON 120 00:02:39,993 --> 00:02:41,928 THE MOOD THAT HE TRIED TO 121 00:02:41,928 --> 00:02:43,997 CULTIVATE HERE AT CPAC. 122 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:44,697 I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS 123 00:02:44,697 --> 00:02:45,498 THAT'S GOING TO BE CENTRAL IS, 124 00:02:45,498 --> 00:02:46,866 AGAIN, THIS IDEA THAT THERE IS 125 00:02:46,866 --> 00:02:48,134 A RISING TIDE OF SOCIALISM ON 126 00:02:48,134 --> 00:02:49,536 THE LEFT THAT CONSERVATIVES HAVE 127 00:02:49,536 --> 00:02:51,037 TO SORT OF BAND TOGETHER AND 128 00:02:51,037 --> 00:02:51,504 COMBAT. 129 00:02:51,504 --> 00:02:53,173 THEY'RE GOING TO BE IN A MORE 130 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:54,607 COMBATIVE MOOD, AND MAYBE THAT 131 00:02:54,607 --> 00:02:55,475 SORT OF TAKES THE PRESSURE OFF 132 00:02:55,475 --> 00:02:56,476 TRUMP TO ACTUALLY DELIVERS 133 00:02:56,476 --> 00:02:57,243 THINGS. 134 00:02:57,243 --> 00:02:58,044 >> Sreenivasan: FINALLY, I 135 00:02:58,044 --> 00:02:59,412 WANT TO ASK, YOU SPENT SEVERAL 136 00:02:59,412 --> 00:03:01,247 DAYS THERE TALKING TO YOUNG 137 00:03:01,247 --> 00:03:02,982 PEOPLE, YOUNG CONSERVATIVES. 138 00:03:02,982 --> 00:03:04,117 WHAT'S YOUR SENSE? 139 00:03:04,117 --> 00:03:06,719 IS THERE A NEWFOUND ENERGY 140 00:03:06,719 --> 00:03:07,654 BECAUSE OF TRUMP? 141 00:03:07,654 --> 00:03:08,488 DO THEY... ARE THEY MORE 142 00:03:08,488 --> 00:03:11,124 OPTIMISTIC OF THEIR OWN FUTURES? 143 00:03:11,124 --> 00:03:11,958 >> WELL, I THINK THERE IS A LOT 144 00:03:11,958 --> 00:03:12,892 OF ENERGY BECAUSE OF TRUMP. 145 00:03:12,892 --> 00:03:14,027 I THINK THAT HE SEEMS LIKE A 146 00:03:14,027 --> 00:03:15,195 DIFFERENT KIND OF REPUBLICAN 147 00:03:15,195 --> 00:03:17,030 POLITICIAN TO YOUNGER 148 00:03:17,030 --> 00:03:17,864 CONSERVATIVES, CAMPUS 149 00:03:17,864 --> 00:03:19,265 CONSERVATIVES, SOMEBODY WHO'S 150 00:03:19,265 --> 00:03:20,867 WILLING TO POKE LIBERALS IN THE 151 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:21,868 EYE. 152 00:03:21,868 --> 00:03:23,002 AND THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG 153 00:03:23,002 --> 00:03:23,937 CONSERVATIVES WHO REALLY ENJOY 154 00:03:23,937 --> 00:03:24,237 THAT. 155 00:03:24,237 --> 00:03:25,471 ONE OF THE MOST STRIKING 156 00:03:25,471 --> 00:03:27,040 PRESENCES, I THINK, AT THE 157 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,174 CONFERENCE THIS YEAR WAS A GROUP 158 00:03:28,174 --> 00:03:29,842 CALLED TURNING POINT U.S.A., 159 00:03:29,842 --> 00:03:31,511 FOUNDED IN 2012, THAT'S EXPLODED 160 00:03:31,511 --> 00:03:33,580 OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS. 161 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:34,948 AND THEIR AGENDA IS BASICALLY 162 00:03:34,948 --> 00:03:36,416 SORT OF RIBBING LIBERALS ON 163 00:03:36,416 --> 00:03:38,051 CAMPUS IN A WAY THAT IS FRANKLY 164 00:03:38,051 --> 00:03:40,253 QUITE SIMILAR TO THE KIND OF 165 00:03:40,253 --> 00:03:41,788 JOUSTING THAT TRUMP DOES 166 00:03:41,788 --> 00:03:43,156 RHETORICALLY ON THE NATIONAL 167 00:03:43,156 --> 00:03:44,357 POLITICAL STAGE. 168 00:03:44,357 --> 00:03:45,258 CHARLIE KIRK IS THE GROUP'S 169 00:03:45,258 --> 00:03:45,825 FOUNDER. 170 00:03:45,825 --> 00:03:48,228 HE HAD A BIG, BIG SPEAKING SLOT 171 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:49,662 AT CPAC THIS YEAR, AS DID 172 00:03:49,662 --> 00:03:50,396 CANDICE OWENS, THEIR 173 00:03:50,396 --> 00:03:52,432 COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR. 174 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:53,733 AND, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF 175 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:54,867 INTEREST IN THAT GROUP. 176 00:03:54,867 --> 00:03:56,803 AND IT, YOU KNOW... IT WAS GIVEN 177 00:03:56,803 --> 00:03:58,671 A LOT OF SPACE, AND CERTAINLY A 178 00:03:58,671 --> 00:03:59,439 LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JOINING. 179 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:00,073 >> Sreenivasan: ALL RIGHT, 180 00:04:00,073 --> 00:04:02,242 OSITA NWANEVU, A REPORTER FOR 181 00:04:02,242 --> 00:04:02,809 THE "NEW YORKER." 182 00:04:02,809 --> 00:04:03,276 THANKS SO MUCH. 183 00:04:03,276 --> 00:04:04,210 >> THANK YOU.