1 00:00:02,033 --> 00:00:04,700 JUDY WOODRUFF: One of the major movements in American education now is to get more students 2 00:00:04,700 --> 00:00:09,700 engaged and learning when it comes to science, technology, engineering and math, often referred 3 00:00:10,733 --> 00:00:12,766 to as STEM. 4 00:00:12,766 --> 00:00:17,433 Hari Sreenivasan has a report from Chicago on efforts to boost science learning among 5 00:00:17,433 --> 00:00:22,433 some of the youngest students by boosting teacher confidence, for our weekly segment 6 00:00:23,166 --> 00:00:23,966 Making the Grade. 7 00:00:23,966 --> 00:00:26,166 TEACHER: Who had fun? 8 00:00:26,166 --> 00:00:28,200 STUDENTS: Me! 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,366 HARI SREENIVASAN: Anyone who's spent time with 3-, 4-, and 5-year-olds knows children 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,400 at this age ask a lot of questions. 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,966 Preschool teacher Edward Marshall: 12 00:00:36,966 --> 00:00:39,866 EDWARD MARSHALL, Teacher: Kids are very persistent. 13 00:00:39,866 --> 00:00:44,866 And when they look at me, they want Mr. Marshall to have all the answers. 14 00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:50,000 Any question they ask me, they want me to have the answer to it. 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,100 EDWARD MARSHALL: OK, where is my good listeners? 16 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:55,933 HARI SREENIVASAN: Marshall, who leads a Head Start classroom in Chicago, says the children's 17 00:00:55,933 --> 00:01:00,933 unrestrained curiosity can sometimes make him feel anxious about teaching certain subjects, 18 00:01:01,533 --> 00:01:03,033 like science. 19 00:01:03,033 --> 00:01:04,500 EDWARD MARSHALL: I feel I don't want to fail them. 20 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:06,266 I don't want to let them down. 21 00:01:06,266 --> 00:01:08,366 HARI SREENIVASAN: Marshall is not alone. 22 00:01:08,366 --> 00:01:13,266 A recent study from Michigan State University found that a majority of preschool teachers 23 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,666 experience the same discomfort teaching science. 24 00:01:16,666 --> 00:01:21,366 EDWARD MARSHALL: I will focus more on reading and not really look at science, because I 25 00:01:22,733 --> 00:01:24,200 thought it was complicated. 26 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:25,533 ODAISHA MCBROOM, Teacher: I'm not good with the science. 27 00:01:25,533 --> 00:01:27,033 I'm just uncomfortable with it. 28 00:01:27,033 --> 00:01:30,400 TINA SMITH MILLER, Teacher: I wasn't a big science person. 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,900 I remember biology in high school, but that's about it. 30 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:39,500 HARI SREENIVASAN: With only 38 percent of the nation's fourth graders testing proficient 31 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:43,833 in the sciences, some educators are looking to the preschool years begin addressing the 32 00:01:43,833 --> 00:01:45,966 problem. 33 00:01:45,966 --> 00:01:49,833 Here, at the University of Chicago, experts in science, technology, and math are partnering 34 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:53,400 with local child care centers to boost teacher confidence. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:58,400 LIESJE SPAEPEN, University of Chicago: We hear all the time teachers go into early education 36 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,100 to avoid math and science courses themselves. 37 00:02:03,100 --> 00:02:07,666 HARI SREENIVASAN: Liesje Spaepen and Liz Lehman from the University of Chicago's STEM Education 38 00:02:07,666 --> 00:02:12,666 Center say that when teachers feel uneasy about a subject matter, it can leave a powerful 39 00:02:13,833 --> 00:02:15,800 impression on students, even at an early age. 40 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,466 LIESJE SPAEPEN: If you're afraid of it, if you have anxiety around a topic, you're very 41 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:23,833 unlikely to want to teach it to your students as well. 42 00:02:23,833 --> 00:02:26,833 The problem is, anxieties like that gets passed down. 43 00:02:26,833 --> 00:02:31,233 If I'm anxious about something, my students see that in me, they think there must be a 44 00:02:31,233 --> 00:02:33,900 reason to be anxious about this. 45 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:38,900 HARI SREENIVASAN: Lehman and Spaepen have been coaching preschool teachers from Chicago's 46 00:02:41,366 --> 00:02:44,800 Austin neighborhood, where students from low-income families are at a greater risk of falling 47 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,800 behind in science and math. 48 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,000 ODAISHA MCBROOM: We're going to see what things can roll down this ramp, OK? 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,066 Can you say the word ramp? 50 00:02:52,066 --> 00:02:54,033 STUDENTS: Ramp. 51 00:02:54,033 --> 00:02:57,233 HARI SREENIVASAN: At Channing's Childcare Academy, teacher Odaisha McBroom introduced 52 00:02:57,233 --> 00:02:58,900 a ramp while the coaches observed. 53 00:02:58,900 --> 00:03:00,366 ODAISHA MCBROOM: Let it go. 54 00:03:00,366 --> 00:03:02,366 Now, what did it do? 55 00:03:02,366 --> 00:03:05,366 HARI SREENIVASAN: The exercise allowed teachers to use a simple activity to teach physics. 56 00:03:05,366 --> 00:03:07,600 ODAISHA MCBROOM: What's that word I'm looking for? 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,600 It's doing something. 58 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,566 ODAISHA MCBROOM: Roll. 59 00:03:10,566 --> 00:03:12,500 LIZ LEHMAN, University of Chicago: This is really getting into some of those physical 60 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:14,033 science concepts. 61 00:03:14,033 --> 00:03:17,533 We're talking about things like gravity and friction. 62 00:03:17,533 --> 00:03:20,566 What do I notice when I send something down a ramp? 63 00:03:20,566 --> 00:03:21,566 Some of them will slide. 64 00:03:21,566 --> 00:03:23,000 Some of them will roll. 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,733 Some of them will not move at all. 66 00:03:24,733 --> 00:03:26,566 ODAISHA MCBROOM: Now, what you going to have to do to make it move? 67 00:03:26,566 --> 00:03:27,800 You got to push it, right? 68 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,266 So, if you push it, is it going to slide down? 69 00:03:30,266 --> 00:03:31,500 STUDENT: No. 70 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:32,666 ODAISHA MCBROOM: They were curious. 71 00:03:32,666 --> 00:03:33,933 They wanted to see what's going to happen. 72 00:03:33,933 --> 00:03:37,333 That's what -- they love to know what's going on. 73 00:03:37,333 --> 00:03:42,333 HARI SREENIVASAN: Later in the day, Lehman and Spaepen observed children who gathered 74 00:03:44,266 --> 00:03:48,800 around a water tank at Betty's Day Care Academy to test which objects sink or float. 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,366 TINA SMITH MILLER: When you put it in the water, what do you think is going to it? 76 00:03:51,366 --> 00:03:52,600 STUDENT: It's going to float. 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,766 TINA SMITH MILLER: What did it do? 78 00:03:54,766 --> 00:03:56,000 STUDENT: It float. 79 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,966 TINA SMITH MILLER: It float, yes. 80 00:03:57,966 --> 00:04:01,733 LIESJE SPAEPEN: The science content there is around density and properties of water 81 00:04:01,733 --> 00:04:03,766 and properties of materials. 82 00:04:03,766 --> 00:04:07,033 We aren't expecting children to learn the word density, were you just want 3-year-olds 83 00:04:07,033 --> 00:04:09,066 to have those experiences to draw on. 84 00:04:09,066 --> 00:04:13,333 If you can say, oh, yes, I remember this when I was a little kid, I dropped things into 85 00:04:13,333 --> 00:04:15,733 the water and some floated and some didn't, oh, that's density. 86 00:04:15,733 --> 00:04:17,833 EDWARD MARSHALL: It's going to float. 87 00:04:17,833 --> 00:04:21,600 HARI SREENIVASAN: Even with this simple activity, the teachers had moments of doubt, like when 88 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,266 Marshall realized he didn't fully understand the properties of the materials. 89 00:04:25,266 --> 00:04:30,266 EDWARD MARSHALL: I wanted them to stick their hand in the bag and then ask, what do you 90 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,333 think it's made out of? 91 00:04:33,333 --> 00:04:38,266 And when I got to that part, I'm like oh, my God, I don't know what this is. 92 00:04:38,266 --> 00:04:41,133 HARI SREENIVASAN: Later, he talked to the coaches about his insecure feelings. 93 00:04:41,133 --> 00:04:46,133 EDWARD MARSHALL: Some of the objects, I didn't know what they were made of, so I was kind 94 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:49,866 of thinking of, should I ask that question? 95 00:04:49,866 --> 00:04:53,700 LIESJE SPAEPEN: I'm a big believer that it's OK for teachers to say they don't know something. 96 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:54,700 You know what, you guys? 97 00:04:54,700 --> 00:04:55,833 I don't know. 98 00:04:55,833 --> 00:04:58,066 We will have to investigate this, right? 99 00:04:58,066 --> 00:04:59,266 That's OK. 100 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:00,133 TINA SMITH MILLER: So, I have a question. 101 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:01,366 LIESJE SPAEPEN: Yes. 102 00:05:01,366 --> 00:05:03,366 TINA SMITH MILLER: Why didn't the branch sink? 103 00:05:03,366 --> 00:05:06,633 HARI SREENIVASAN: Marshall's teaching partner, Tina Smith Miller, had science questions of 104 00:05:06,633 --> 00:05:08,133 her own. 105 00:05:08,133 --> 00:05:09,266 TINA SMITH MILLER: The kids were saying it was going to float. 106 00:05:09,266 --> 00:05:10,700 I thought it was going to sink. 107 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:13,500 I didn't tell anybody I didn't know the answer either. 108 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:14,966 I was keeping it to myself. 109 00:05:14,966 --> 00:05:17,533 LIESJE SPAEPEN: It's not an easy shift for teachers to make. 110 00:05:17,533 --> 00:05:22,433 It's something you feel as if you should know the answers to these things when kids ask 111 00:05:22,433 --> 00:05:23,933 you. 112 00:05:23,933 --> 00:05:25,200 HARI SREENIVASAN: The university coaches do not teach science. 113 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,766 Instead, the goal is to promote science inquiry. 114 00:05:27,766 --> 00:05:31,700 LIESJE SPAEPEN: If you feel uncomfortable about the answers, about giving the answers, 115 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:36,266 or finding the answers, you're going to avoid those questions. 116 00:05:36,266 --> 00:05:39,533 What we always tell teachers is, use those opportunities. 117 00:05:39,533 --> 00:05:41,566 It's OK if you have to say, let's figure this out together. 118 00:05:41,566 --> 00:05:46,566 EDWARD MARSHALL: They gave me the courage to ask more questions, and it wasn't a wrong 119 00:05:48,133 --> 00:05:52,100 answer, or I didn't feel silly or scared or afraid. 120 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:55,733 So, I think they helped me be more courageous. 121 00:05:55,733 --> 00:06:00,733 TINA SMITH MILLER: I learned a lot about exploring, finding things out, doing a lot of investigating. 122 00:06:05,066 --> 00:06:07,300 We had a lot of trial and error. 123 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,400 ODAISHA MCBROOM: I should have learned it a long time ago. 124 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:14,400 But I'm so glad that we got involved in this program, because I say, OK, I need some help 125 00:06:14,866 --> 00:06:15,800 on that. 126 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:16,600 Everything else, I got it. 127 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,633 This, I didn't have. 128 00:06:18,633 --> 00:06:21,166 HARI SREENIVASAN: The teacher coaches hope to expand their early learning project in 129 00:06:21,166 --> 00:06:22,566 the coming years. 130 00:06:22,566 --> 00:06:25,100 In Chicago for the "PBS NewsHour," I'm Hari Sreenivasan.