WEBVTT 00:02.033 --> 00:04.366 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: The Trump White House has been engaged in an all-out battle for the past 00:04.366 --> 00:09.366 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% few days against a new book that paints a devastating portrait of the president. 00:11.266 --> 00:14.833 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Author Michael Wolff spent more than a year with inside access to the Trump campaign and 00:16.733 --> 00:20.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% first year in office conducting what he says were more than 200 interviews. 00:22.433 --> 00:27.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% The president waved, but said nothing, as he left Washington today, that after a weekend 00:29.800 --> 00:31.900 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% full of comment. 00:31.900 --> 00:34.100 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% DONALD TRUMP, President of the United States: I consider it a work of fiction, and I think 00:34.100 --> 00:36.133 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% it's a disgrace. 00:36.133 --> 00:40.100 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: On Saturday, at Camp David, Mr. Trump denounced the book "Fire and Fury": 00:42.066 --> 00:44.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Inside the Trump White House," and pointed to supporters doing the same. 00:44.433 --> 00:47.166 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% DONALD TRUMP: They know the author, and they know he's a fraud. 00:47.166 --> 00:49.733 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: The author is Michael Wolff. 00:49.733 --> 00:54.733 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He depicts a White House beset by chaos, staffed by people who question the president's fitness 00:55.666 --> 00:57.766 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% to serve. 00:57.766 --> 01:01.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Economic adviser Gary Cohn is quoted as saying in an e-mail that the president is "an idiot 01:03.833 --> 01:07.800 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% surrounded by clowns," someone who "won't read anything" and "gets up halfway through 01:09.166 --> 01:12.166 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% meetings with world leaders because he is bored." 01:12.166 --> 01:17.166 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Wolff writes that for National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster, "He was a dope." 01:19.666 --> 01:22.633 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% The book also quotes Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus 01:23.866 --> 01:26.000 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% calling Mr. Trump an idiot. 01:26.000 --> 01:31.000 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% On Saturday, Mr. Trump hit back on Twitter, calling himself a "very stable genius." 01:32.400 --> 01:34.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% He followed up at the Camp David news conference. 01:34.566 --> 01:38.633 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% DONALD TRUMP: I had a situation where I was a very excellent student, came out, made billions 01:38.633 --> 01:43.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% and billions of dollars, became one of the top businesspeople, went to television, and 01:43.333 --> 01:48.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% for 10 years was a tremendous success, as you probably have heard, ran for president 01:49.900 --> 01:52.400 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% one time and won. 01:52.400 --> 01:56.166 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: On the Sunday talk shows, several members of the Trump administration also defended 01:56.800 --> 01:58.766 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% the president. 01:58.766 --> 02:03.166 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% CIA Director Mike Pompeo rejected Wolff's claims that the president gets bored during 02:04.366 --> 02:05.833 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% intelligence briefings. 02:05.833 --> 02:07.766 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% MIKE POMPEO, CIA Director: Those statements are just absurd. 02:07.766 --> 02:10.766 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% This president reads material that we provide to him. 02:10.766 --> 02:13.000 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% He listens closely to his daily briefing. 02:13.000 --> 02:17.666 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: Others, inside and outside the administration, have challenged the validity 02:17.666 --> 02:20.033 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% of some of what's in the book. 02:20.033 --> 02:25.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% But Wolff says the situation is so alarming that White House aides have even talked about 02:26.366 --> 02:28.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% invoking the 25th Amendment to the Constitution. 02:28.866 --> 02:33.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% In part, it provides for the vice president to take over if he and most Cabinet members 02:35.300 --> 02:37.266 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% deem the president unable to discharge his duties. 02:37.266 --> 02:39.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF, Author, "Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House": The 25th Amendment 02:39.433 --> 02:43.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% is a concept that is alive every day in the White House. 02:43.533 --> 02:48.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: To bolster his case, the author maintains that he had relatively free access 02:48.500 --> 02:50.633 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% to the White House. 02:50.633 --> 02:53.400 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% DONALD TRUMP: I guess sloppy Steve brought him into the White House quite a bit, and 02:53.400 --> 02:54.933 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% it was one of those things. 02:54.933 --> 02:56.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% That's why sloppy Steve is now looking for a job. 02:56.966 --> 03:01.633 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: That's former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, who was fired last 03:02.100 --> 03:04.133 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% summer. 03:04.133 --> 03:07.833 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% In the book, Bannon says Donald Trump Jr.'s participation in a 2016 meeting with a Russian 03:08.933 --> 03:11.933 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% lawyer was treasonous and unpatriotic. 03:11.933 --> 03:16.933 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Late Sunday, Bannon apologized in a statement, pledging unwavering support. 03:18.900 --> 03:23.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He insisted he had not been talking about Donald Trump Jr., but about Paul Manafort, 03:24.733 --> 03:26.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% the one-time Trump campaign chairman. 03:26.866 --> 03:31.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Today, Wolff disputed Bannon's recanting and said there's no question he was talking about 03:32.266 --> 03:34.766 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% the president's son. 03:34.766 --> 03:38.466 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% For more on the explosive book and the firestorm it has created, I spoke with Michael Wolff 03:38.466 --> 03:43.466 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% a short time ago, and I asked him how different he found Donald Trump from the man he knew 03:44.833 --> 03:47.300 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% for the past 25 years, before he became president. 03:47.300 --> 03:50.233 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: In some sense, not different at all. 03:50.233 --> 03:55.233 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% I mean, he is the same -- I think Steve Bannon calls him a big warm bear -- a big warm monkey, 04:01.933 --> 04:04.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% actually, is what Steve calls him. 04:04.133 --> 04:09.133 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He's -- you know, he's, in many ways, a man full of flattery, superficial in every respect, 04:14.666 --> 04:16.966 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% a salesman. 04:16.966 --> 04:21.800 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And he is still that, except that he's the president of the United States. 04:21.800 --> 04:26.800 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: You have been saying, you have been writing repeatedly that the people around 04:28.700 --> 04:32.966 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% the president now, including his children, are worried about him, in some cases alarmed 04:35.866 --> 04:37.033 align:left position:40%,start line:89% size:50% by him. 04:37.033 --> 04:39.100 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% What are they worried will happen? 04:39.100 --> 04:43.066 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: I think almost anything that he does worries them, because it is always 04:44.166 --> 04:45.166 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% unpredictable. 04:45.166 --> 04:47.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% It is always unpredictable. 04:47.333 --> 04:52.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% It's extreme, it's exceptional, and it is outside the bounds of what one has traditionally 04:57.166 --> 04:59.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% done as the president of the United States. 04:59.866 --> 05:04.233 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, as you know -- and we can go through this -- the president, everyone 05:04.233 --> 05:06.800 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% around him are pushing back. 05:06.800 --> 05:10.833 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% The president is saying this is a book full of lies by an author, he says, totally discredited. 05:12.733 --> 05:16.266 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% The U.N. ambassador, Nikki Haley, said over the weekend says she sees the president and 05:16.266 --> 05:20.566 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% his staff every week, she never sees anything like this. 05:20.566 --> 05:22.700 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% How does that square with what you saw? 05:22.700 --> 05:27.033 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% MICHAEL WOLFF: It's absolutely untrue. 05:27.033 --> 05:32.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% I mean, literally, I spent, you know, the better part of seven months in close proximity 05:36.100 --> 05:38.233 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% to everyone in the White House. 05:38.233 --> 05:43.233 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And, you know, as I have said again and again and again, and I will say once more, I had 05:44.100 --> 05:46.133 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% no agenda. 05:46.133 --> 05:50.100 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% I was perfectly willing to write a book in which Donald Trump was the unexpected successful 05:54.033 --> 05:56.033 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% president. 05:56.033 --> 06:00.100 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% I went into this experience just waiting to hear what people would tell me. 06:02.000 --> 06:06.566 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And what they told me, the people closest to the president, was that things became more 06:08.533 --> 06:13.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% alarming by the day, that all of them, in some way or other, were afraid, afraid for 06:17.100 --> 06:21.833 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% their -- both for their own careers and for the country. 06:21.833 --> 06:23.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% They were also -- they just didn't know what to do. 06:23.733 --> 06:25.833 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% They didn't know what to expect. 06:25.833 --> 06:30.200 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% They woke up in the morning, and they were in, you know, something of a cold sweat. 06:32.800 --> 06:37.800 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Almost all of them -- for almost all of them, it was a countdown until when they could leave. 06:39.400 --> 06:42.366 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, let me continue with some of the pushback. 06:42.366 --> 06:46.233 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% You quote the former White House Chief of Staff Katie Walsh as saying, trying to figure 06:46.233 --> 06:51.000 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% out what the president wanted was like trying to figure out what a child wants. 06:51.000 --> 06:53.433 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% She now says she was misquoted. 06:53.433 --> 06:55.100 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% Do you have her on tape? 06:55.100 --> 06:57.400 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Can you prove that she said it? 06:57.400 --> 07:00.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: You know, I'm not going to produce tapes. 07:00.966 --> 07:05.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% I am very comfortable with how I reported what Katie Walsh said. 07:08.000 --> 07:11.066 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% And, by the way, I don't say Katie Walsh coming out and, in fact, saying she didn't say this. 07:13.033 --> 07:17.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% I think she said, Steve Bannon -- she was quoting Steve Bannon or something like that. 07:19.066 --> 07:20.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% But I will -- and I will go further. 07:20.966 --> 07:25.200 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% There is not one person in close proximity to the president in the West Wing who has 07:27.700 --> 07:30.533 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% not used the term that he is like a child. 07:30.533 --> 07:33.800 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Sometimes, it's an 11-year-old, sometimes a 6-year-old. 07:33.800 --> 07:35.766 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Sometimes, it's a 2-year-old. 07:35.766 --> 07:40.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Always, he is viewed as a child because he is someone who needs immediate and absolute 07:42.600 --> 07:47.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% gratification when, where -- and when he wants it, now. 07:49.733 --> 07:54.733 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: You mentioned Steve Bannon, a central figure in the book, somebody you 07:55.466 --> 07:57.500 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% talked to a lot here. 07:57.500 --> 08:02.000 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He did issue a statement over the weekend, pushed back especially -- or drew back the 08:03.800 --> 08:07.533 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% comments that you said he made about the president's son, Donald Jr. 08:08.966 --> 08:11.000 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Why would he do that, if he's somebody you rely on? 08:11.000 --> 08:13.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: Well, I mean, first of all, he didn't. 08:13.500 --> 08:18.500 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He didn't say anything that I quoted as saying him was untrue or even misquoted. 08:20.500 --> 08:24.800 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% What he does try to do, in a very triangulated apology in which he doesn't apologize, is 08:26.533 --> 08:31.533 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% say it wasn't about Don Jr., it was about Paul Manafort. 08:33.500 --> 08:36.800 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Now, there was the quote which he doesn't deny in which I quote him as saying that Don 08:39.766 --> 08:43.200 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Jr. would be cracked like an egg on national television. 08:43.200 --> 08:46.600 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% Well, he doesn't dispute that. 08:46.600 --> 08:51.600 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And, in fact, while he certainly included Paul Manafort among this group of hapless 08:57.866 --> 09:02.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% people who were -- who Steve also thought might be committing treason, it was very much 09:05.100 --> 09:07.500 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% focused on Don Jr. 09:07.500 --> 09:12.233 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% He explained that what happened, that whole meeting in Trump Tower, came about because 09:12.233 --> 09:17.233 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Don Jr. was trying to impress his father, so his father would give him more authority 09:17.833 --> 09:19.433 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% in the campaign. 09:19.433 --> 09:22.266 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% I absolutely stand my ground. 09:22.266 --> 09:27.266 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: Given what you saw in the White House and what you have reported on, what's 09:28.400 --> 09:30.866 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% your sense of the Mueller investigation? 09:30.866 --> 09:34.400 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% Do you believe that it will produce proof that this president colluded in some way with 09:34.400 --> 09:35.900 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% the Russians? 09:35.900 --> 09:38.733 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: You know, I have no way of knowing that. 09:38.733 --> 09:43.733 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% I can -- and I can only report what people in the White House told me. 09:45.633 --> 09:48.900 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And what people in the White House told me is that, actually, they tend not to give full 09:50.800 --> 09:55.433 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% credence to the idea of collusion, at least a grand strategy of collusion. 09:57.233 --> 10:01.600 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% There might be, like Don Jr., some hapless collusion. 10:01.600 --> 10:06.600 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% But they all, again to a man, believe that, if this investigation goes to the president's 10:09.833 --> 10:14.833 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% financial history, then the president is in trouble and his family is in trouble. 10:16.766 --> 10:20.133 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: The conventional wisdom, Michael Wolff, is that John Kelly, General Kelly, 10:22.133 --> 10:26.266 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% has brought a measure of calm and order to the White House since he arrived in August. 10:27.700 --> 10:29.766 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% Could it be the... 10:29.766 --> 10:32.700 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: Well, let me just -- let me just stop you there and go over the history 10:32.700 --> 10:37.700 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% of the last five days, the common order of the president trying to prior -- to restrain 10:41.566 --> 10:46.566 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% - - impose a prior restraint on the presentation of a book, the president going out and constantly 10:49.000 --> 10:52.300 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% tweeting about -- I mean, attacking an author, attacking his former subordinates, and then 10:57.166 --> 11:01.966 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% coming out and saying that he was, in fact, sane. 11:01.966 --> 11:06.966 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% I mean, this is not a White House and not a president that has been restrained and had 11:09.733 --> 11:11.633 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% discipline imposed on him. 11:11.633 --> 11:15.033 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: And yet you write, you say that the president and General Kelly have 11:15.033 --> 11:17.900 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% contempt for each other? 11:17.900 --> 11:20.333 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% MICHAEL WOLFF: Yes. 11:20.333 --> 11:22.900 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% And that comes as a surprise? 11:22.900 --> 11:24.666 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% Yes, anyway, absolutely. 11:24.666 --> 11:27.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: Move on to the president's daughter Ivanka. 11:27.866 --> 11:31.866 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% Her husband, Jared, he plays a major role in this book. 11:31.866 --> 11:36.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% Do you see them still as influential in this White House as they were earlier on? 11:38.833 --> 11:42.733 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: You know, I think that they are spending a considerable amount of time 11:42.733 --> 11:46.333 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% on their own -- on their own legal issues. 11:46.333 --> 11:51.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% I think General Kelly has taken significant steps to contain their influence. 11:55.300 --> 12:00.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% But, yes, they are still the most influential people in the Trump White House. 12:02.333 --> 12:05.666 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: The 25th Amendment, you have said that this is a subject of conversation 12:07.233 --> 12:09.266 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% in the White House. 12:09.266 --> 12:12.366 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% This has to do with the vice president, the majority of the Cabinet agreeing the vice 12:12.366 --> 12:15.833 align:left position:20%,start line:77% size:70% president should take over, if the president can't discharge his job. 12:15.833 --> 12:20.833 align:left position:20%,start line:71% size:70% Do you know that that has been privately discussed by principals in the White House now? 12:21.700 --> 12:22.633 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: Yes, absolutely. 12:22.633 --> 12:23.866 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% (CROSSTALK) 12:23.866 --> 12:25.200 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% JUDY WOODRUFF: Who are now -- yes. 12:25.200 --> 12:27.266 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: I mean, let's go. 12:27.266 --> 12:31.833 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And as I have now -- as I have outlined, as I have described this before, it is in the 12:33.733 --> 12:38.700 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% matter of people say -- because, you know, there's this constant kind of commentary on 12:39.900 --> 12:42.966 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% what Trump has done, how to explain this. 12:42.966 --> 12:45.066 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% And so I first started to hear this. 12:45.066 --> 12:50.066 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% They would say, OK, that was weird, maybe not 25th Amendment weird, but weird. 12:52.066 --> 12:56.633 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And then it would be, OK, we're moving closer to 25th Amendment kind of stuff. 12:58.600 --> 13:02.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% In other words, it becomes almost a term of art within the White House of how to measure 13:04.400 --> 13:07.300 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% whether Trump is at any given moment. 13:07.300 --> 13:09.500 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: Two other quick things, Michael Wolff. 13:09.500 --> 13:14.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% If things are as bad as you say, as you write that they are in this administration, why 13:14.333 --> 13:19.333 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% haven't there been resignations on principle from the top levels of this administration? 13:20.766 --> 13:23.466 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: You know, I mean, I think it's a good question. 13:23.466 --> 13:28.466 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% And, certainly, as an outsider, you would fairly ask that question of everyone. 13:32.600 --> 13:37.600 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% The truth is that you find -- many of the people find themselves in this situation and 13:39.500 --> 13:43.200 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% it's -- and begin to see themselves as the people who can impose some kind of logic and 13:47.700 --> 13:52.700 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% order on this White House, that they almost stand protecting the president, they stand 13:54.166 --> 13:58.366 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% between the American people and the president. 13:58.366 --> 14:03.366 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% They are there in some -- and I think that this is unexpected for them all, because they're 14:05.733 --> 14:07.633 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% all ambitious people. 14:07.633 --> 14:11.133 align:left position:10%,start line:83% size:80% They have suddenly become people with a patriotic duty. 14:11.133 --> 14:15.800 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: And, finally, have you heard from people in the White House, in the administration 14:15.800 --> 14:17.033 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% since the book came out? 14:17.033 --> 14:19.133 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% What are they saying to you privately? 14:19.133 --> 14:23.733 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: They are saying -- the context that I continue to have -- and a great many 14:27.866 --> 14:32.866 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% of the people who I spoken to this book are no longer with the administration, of course. 14:35.300 --> 14:38.200 align:left position:10%,start line:71% size:80% But what I do hear, quite specifically, is the president is bouncing off the walls because 14:38.200 --> 14:39.433 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% of this book. 14:39.433 --> 14:42.666 align:left position:20%,start line:83% size:70% He really takes it as a mortal threat. 14:42.666 --> 14:47.666 align:left position:10%,start line:77% size:80% JUDY WOODRUFF: Michael Wolff, the book is "Fire and Fury": Inside the Trump White House." 14:48.566 --> 14:49.566 align:left position:30%,start line:89% size:60% Quite a book. 14:49.566 --> 14:50.566 align:left position:20%,start line:89% size:70% Thank you very much. 14:50.566 --> 14:51.133 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MICHAEL WOLFF: Thank you.