1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,500 JUDY WOODRUFF: A decades-old controversy over the name of the Washington, D.C., professional 2 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:07,966 football reaching a tipping point today. 3 00:00:07,966 --> 00:00:12,966 As Amna Nawaz reports, after years of public outcry condemning the name as a racial slur 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,633 aimed at Native Americans, ownership is now considering a change. 5 00:00:18,633 --> 00:00:20,733 AMNA NAWAZ: That's right, Judy. 6 00:00:20,733 --> 00:00:24,433 In a statement today, the team said it's launching a -- quote, unquote -- "thorough review" of 7 00:00:24,433 --> 00:00:29,433 their name. That came after major corporate backers FedEx and Pepsi called publicly for 8 00:00:31,266 --> 00:00:34,400 the change. Another sponsor, Nike, pulled team merchandise from its Web site. 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,700 For more on today's decision and what drove it, I'm joined by Washington Post columnist 10 00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:43,666 Kevin Blackistone. He's also producing a documentary called "Imagining the Indian," examining the 11 00:00:45,133 --> 00:00:47,866 fight against Native American mascots in the world of sports. 12 00:00:47,866 --> 00:00:49,933 Kevin, welcome back to the "NewsHour." 13 00:00:49,933 --> 00:00:54,566 There have been calls for years, we should point out, to change the Washington team's 14 00:00:54,566 --> 00:00:58,266 name. Let's start with your reaction. What do you make about the decision and statement 15 00:00:58,266 --> 00:01:00,433 from the team today? 16 00:01:00,433 --> 00:01:02,466 KEVIN BLACKISTONE, University of Maryland: Well, I am glad that we are finally at this 17 00:01:02,466 --> 00:01:06,233 press precipice once again. I hope this nickname issue can be shoved over the ledge. 18 00:01:08,166 --> 00:01:11,600 I don't make much of the statement today. First of all, I am offended they would use 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:16,600 the name in the statement and underscore it. I am offended that Dan Snyder -- statement 20 00:01:18,633 --> 00:01:23,633 from him did not include, as a group of people to talk to, the Native Americans who are, 21 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:29,066 in fact, offended by this and have been fighting for a name change for some 50 years now. 22 00:01:29,066 --> 00:01:34,066 And I was a little bit disturbed as well by coach Rivera's statement which somehow included 23 00:01:35,966 --> 00:01:40,400 the military as being honored in all of this, which is baffling to me, because the only 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,633 way you bring up the military in terms of Native Americans is with genocide, and the 25 00:01:47,666 --> 00:01:51,633 fact that the militias in this country back in Connecticut and Massachusetts, when the 26 00:01:54,066 --> 00:01:57,833 colonies were being founded, included bounties or issued bounties for the scalps of Native 27 00:02:00,866 --> 00:02:02,900 Americans being removed from their land. 28 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:07,600 And, in fact, that is what became known as redskins. So, it was tone-deaf to me in a 29 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,133 lot of ways. 30 00:02:10,133 --> 00:02:12,100 AMNA NAWAZ: You mentioned the statement from team owner Dan Snyder. 31 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:15,466 I want to read to our viewers in full his quote from that statement. 32 00:02:15,466 --> 00:02:19,200 He wrote: "The process" -- meaning this process they are now going launch -- "allows the team 33 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,966 to take into account not only the proud tradition and history of the franchise, also input from 34 00:02:23,966 --> 00:02:28,966 our alumni, the organization, sponsors, the NFL and the local community it is proud to 35 00:02:29,833 --> 00:02:31,900 represent on and off the field." 36 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:35,300 Kevin, I am old enough to remember back in 2013 when Snyder was asked about a name change, 37 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:39,233 and he said, never, all caps, we will never change the name. 38 00:02:39,233 --> 00:02:42,566 So, is that where the resistance was? Was it really just Snyder? 39 00:02:42,566 --> 00:02:47,566 KEVIN BLACKISTONE: You know, there was certainly the fan base that he has very much made himself 40 00:02:49,566 --> 00:02:53,200 a part of, a fan base which, by the way, has not liked his leadership for the team in terms 41 00:02:55,633 --> 00:02:57,933 of winning games on the field. 42 00:02:57,933 --> 00:03:02,900 But maybe around this nickname is the one place where he felt that the fans would support 43 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,100 him. And there has been support from fans. But it is not about the fans. This is about 44 00:03:10,066 --> 00:03:13,933 humanity. This is about treating other people as equals. This is about no longer denigrating 45 00:03:14,933 --> 00:03:18,233 the Native people of this land. 46 00:03:18,233 --> 00:03:22,600 And that is what this movement is all about. And I think it is really interesting that 47 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,600 the shift now has been made by the Black Lives Matter movement, right? Because this started 48 00:03:29,833 --> 00:03:34,833 out weeks ago as a protest against police lethality against black men in this country 49 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,466 with George Floyd's death. 50 00:03:40,466 --> 00:03:45,466 And then it became an attack on Confederate iconology in this country. And then it became 51 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,933 an attack on Christopher Columbus and his true history. And we have seen the removal 52 00:03:54,066 --> 00:03:57,200 of those statues. And Christopher Columbus is the one who really is representative when 53 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,800 it comes to Native American genocide in this country. 54 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,233 And that relates -- that's the seed of racism in this country which relates all the way 55 00:04:07,233 --> 00:04:09,333 back to this nickname. 56 00:04:09,333 --> 00:04:11,633 AMNA NAWAZ: Want to ask you about some of the external pressure, though, because we 57 00:04:11,633 --> 00:04:15,266 mentioned some of those corporate backers and their statements and their actions this 58 00:04:15,266 --> 00:04:17,866 week, FedEx saying, within days, we want the name changed. 59 00:04:17,866 --> 00:04:21,900 Nike saying -- or Nike, rather, looking like it took all the merchandise off of its Web 60 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:24,333 site. 61 00:04:24,333 --> 00:04:27,133 When you look at this decision from the Washington team's perspective, was it a moral one? Did 62 00:04:27,133 --> 00:04:31,566 they finally realize, OK, this is the right move? Or was it a market one? 63 00:04:31,566 --> 00:04:36,033 KEVIN BLACKISTONE: This is absolutely a market move. This is hitting them in the pocketbook. 64 00:04:36,033 --> 00:04:40,633 I would like to be able to say today that this was an altruistic move by this team, 65 00:04:40,633 --> 00:04:45,333 but, as you alluded to earlier in this report, this has been a struggle that has been going 66 00:04:45,333 --> 00:04:50,333 on for years. We thought that, in 2014 and 2013, that things were going to become different, 67 00:04:53,133 --> 00:04:58,133 that that was an opportunity for this team to move in another direction, get on the right 68 00:04:58,733 --> 00:05:00,866 side of history. 69 00:05:00,866 --> 00:05:04,966 Dan Snyder could have done this when he purchased a team. You would think that Dan Snyder, a 70 00:05:04,966 --> 00:05:09,966 Jewish-American, would have some particular sensibility about the struggle that has been 71 00:05:11,866 --> 00:05:15,266 going on with this team's nickname with Native Americans for so many years. 72 00:05:15,266 --> 00:05:20,266 But that hasn't happened. So this is strictly a reaction to forces that are pushing in this 73 00:05:23,566 --> 00:05:28,566 country right now, social justice forces. And particularly as it relates to this franchise, 74 00:05:30,433 --> 00:05:34,100 it is a pocketbook issue now, with these major sponsors starting to push back. 75 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:37,366 AMNA NAWAZ: Kevin, in just the few seconds we have left, there are other pro leagues 76 00:05:37,366 --> 00:05:42,366 that have Native American mascots, MLB, NHL. Do you think this decision can spur change 77 00:05:43,100 --> 00:05:44,033 in those leagues too? 78 00:05:44,033 --> 00:05:45,966 KEVIN BLACKISTONE: Absolutely. 79 00:05:45,966 --> 00:05:50,333 This is the top of this iceberg, an iceberg that, by the way, has been eroding beneath 80 00:05:52,266 --> 00:05:56,033 the water, as high school after high school and college after high college that have had 81 00:05:58,033 --> 00:06:00,633 these sorts of nicknames and these sorts of images, have removed them from their teams. 82 00:06:00,633 --> 00:06:04,966 AMNA NAWAZ: That is Kevin Blackistone, Washington Post columnist and producer of the upcoming 83 00:06:04,966 --> 00:06:07,200 documentary "Imagining the Indian." 84 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,433 Thank you, Kevin. 85 00:06:08,433 --> 00:06:08,566 KEVIN BLACKISTONE: Thank you very much.