WEBVTT 00:00.567 --> 00:01.301 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> Thompson: AN ARTICLE IN THIS 00:01.301 --> 00:02.602 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% WEEKEND'S "NEW YORK TIMES 00:02.602 --> 00:04.104 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MAGAZINE" DESCRIBES TOUGH 00:04.104 --> 00:05.839 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% TACTICS BEING USED WITH GREATER 00:05.839 --> 00:07.640 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% FREQUENCY BY THE U.S. MILITARY 00:07.640 --> 00:09.376 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% TO STOP DRUG TRAFFICKING AROUND 00:09.376 --> 00:10.310 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THE WORLD. 00:10.310 --> 00:11.511 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% "THE COAST GUARD'S FLOATING 00:11.511 --> 00:13.146 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% GUANTANAMOS" REPORTS ON HOW 00:13.146 --> 00:14.481 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SUSPECTED DRUG SMUGGLERS ARE 00:14.481 --> 00:16.349 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% BEING DETAINED AT SEA FOR WEEKS 00:16.349 --> 00:17.584 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% OR EVEN MONTHS BEFORE THEY ARE 00:17.584 --> 00:19.319 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% CHARGED WITH A CRIME OR APPEAR 00:19.319 --> 00:20.820 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% IN AN AMERICAN COURT. 00:20.820 --> 00:22.655 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THIS HAPPENED ALMOST 700 TIMES 00:22.655 --> 00:24.157 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% BETWEEN LAST SEPTEMBER AND THIS 00:24.157 --> 00:25.058 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SEPTEMBER. 00:25.058 --> 00:26.393 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% "NEW YORK TIMES" REPORTER SETH 00:26.393 --> 00:28.228 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% FREED WESSLER WROTE THE STORY IN 00:28.228 --> 00:28.995 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% PARTNERSHIP WITH THE 00:28.995 --> 00:30.630 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% INVESTIGATIVE FUND AT THE NATION 00:30.630 --> 00:32.298 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% INSTITUTE, AND HE JOINS ME NOW 00:32.298 --> 00:33.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% FROM BOSTON. 00:33.333 --> 00:35.235 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SO, FIRST, SETH, I WANTED YOU TO 00:35.235 --> 00:37.570 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% JUST DESCRIBE TO US WHAT EXACTLY 00:37.570 --> 00:39.372 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THE COAST GUARD IS DOING. 00:39.372 --> 00:40.640 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AND YOU ALSO FEATURE THE STORY 00:40.640 --> 00:42.142 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% OF A GENTLEMAN NAMED JOHNNY. 00:42.142 --> 00:42.876 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT 00:42.876 --> 00:45.545 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% ABOUT WHAT HE EXPERIENCED? 00:45.545 --> 00:46.646 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> WELL, THE U.S. COAST GUARD 00:46.646 --> 00:49.549 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% HAS BEEN DEPLOYED DEEP INTO THE 00:49.549 --> 00:51.851 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% PACIFIC OCEAN, SOMETIMES AS MANY 00:51.851 --> 00:54.621 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AS 3,000 MILES AWAY FROM THE 00:54.621 --> 00:57.190 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% NEAREST U.S. PORT, TO PICK UP 00:57.190 --> 01:00.260 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SHIPMENTS OF COCAINE MOVED 01:00.260 --> 01:02.562 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% BETWEEN SOUTH AMERICA-- COLOMBIA 01:02.562 --> 01:03.830 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AND ECUADOR-- AND CENTRAL 01:03.830 --> 01:04.998 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AMERICA. 01:04.998 --> 01:07.333 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AND THEY'RE PICKING UP SUSPECTED 01:07.333 --> 01:08.868 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SMUGGLERS ABOARD SMALL 01:08.868 --> 01:10.270 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SPEEDBOATS IN THE OCEAN. 01:10.270 --> 01:12.272 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AND I WRITE ABOUT A NUMBER OF 01:12.272 --> 01:15.075 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MEN WHO WERE DETAINED BY THE 01:15.075 --> 01:18.078 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COAST GUARD ABOARD U.S. SHIPS IN 01:18.078 --> 01:19.746 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% INTERNATIONAL WATERS AND HELD 01:19.746 --> 01:22.615 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THERE FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS AT A 01:22.615 --> 01:24.918 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% TIME IN A KIND OF DETENTION 01:24.918 --> 01:27.153 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THAT'S EXPANDING RAPIDLY IN THE 01:27.153 --> 01:29.556 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SORT OF MARITIME WAR ON DRUGS. 01:29.556 --> 01:30.323 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> Thompson: TALK A LITTLE BIT 01:30.323 --> 01:32.459 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MORE ABOUT THE CONDITIONS THAT 01:32.459 --> 01:34.494 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THESE MEN WERE HELD IN. 01:34.494 --> 01:35.562 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> THEY DESCRIBE CONDITIONS 01:35.562 --> 01:36.763 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% WHERE THEY WERE... THEY WERE... 01:36.763 --> 01:38.465 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THEY WERE SHACKLED, OFTEN VERY 01:38.465 --> 01:41.067 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% TIGHTLY IN TIGHT QUARTERS, 01:41.067 --> 01:43.103 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% UNSHACKLED ONLY TO BE ALLOWED TO 01:43.103 --> 01:45.238 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% USE THE BATHROOM, WHICH OFTEN 01:45.238 --> 01:47.807 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% WAS ONLY A PLASTIC BUCKET ON THE 01:47.807 --> 01:50.210 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% DECK OF THE SHIP, AND HELD DAY 01:50.210 --> 01:51.411 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AFTER DAY. 01:51.411 --> 01:52.278 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% IN THE CASE OF JHONNY 01:52.278 --> 01:54.080 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% ARCENTALES, WHO I WRITE ABOUT, 01:54.080 --> 01:56.282 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AN ECUADORAN FISHERMAN, HE WAS 01:56.282 --> 01:58.451 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% HELD WITH A GROUP OF OTHER MEN 01:58.451 --> 02:00.687 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% FOR 70 DAYS ABOARD A SERIES OF 02:00.687 --> 02:01.654 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COAST GUARD CUTTERS. 02:01.654 --> 02:03.723 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AND HE REALLY BELIEVED THAT HE 02:03.723 --> 02:05.425 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MIGHT DISAPPEAR. 02:05.425 --> 02:07.093 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% HE HAD NO IDEA WHERE HE WAS 02:07.093 --> 02:08.161 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% BEING TAKEN. 02:08.161 --> 02:10.096 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% HE WAS SIMPLY BEING HELD AS THE 02:10.096 --> 02:11.664 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COAST GUARD CUTTERS WERE MOVING 02:11.664 --> 02:13.266 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AROUND THE PACIFIC, PICKING UP 02:13.266 --> 02:15.835 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MORE SUSPECTED SMUGGLERS AND 02:15.835 --> 02:17.437 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% DETAINING THEM ABOARD THE SHIPS. 02:17.437 --> 02:19.739 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> Thompson: SO, WHERE DO THESE 02:19.739 --> 02:22.041 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% PEOPLE END UP? 02:22.041 --> 02:23.843 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> WELL, IN YEARS PAST, WHEN THE 02:23.843 --> 02:25.545 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COAST GUARD HAS PICKED UP DRUGS 02:25.545 --> 02:27.180 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% IN THE OCEAN, IT'S VERY OFTEN 02:27.180 --> 02:28.848 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SENT THE SMUGGLERS ON BOARD 02:28.848 --> 02:29.983 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THOSE BOATS BACK TO THEIR 02:29.983 --> 02:31.184 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COUNTRIES, BACK TO COUNTRIES 02:31.184 --> 02:31.851 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% NEARBY. 02:31.851 --> 02:34.287 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% BUT SINCE 2012, WHEN THE 02:34.287 --> 02:36.122 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE LAUNCHED 02:36.122 --> 02:37.891 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% A PROGRAM CALLED "OPERATION 02:37.891 --> 02:39.159 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MARTILLO" WHICH REALLY HAS 02:39.159 --> 02:41.895 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% FOCUSED ON TRYING TO INTERDICT 02:41.895 --> 02:44.164 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% DRUGS-- COCAINE MOSTLY-- IN AND 02:44.164 --> 02:45.798 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% NEAR THE TRANSIT ZONES WHEN THEY 02:45.798 --> 02:48.401 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% LEAVE SOUTH AMERICA, SMUGGLERS, 02:48.401 --> 02:49.502 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SUSPECTED SMUGGLERS HAVE BEEN 02:49.502 --> 02:50.737 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% BROUGHT BACK TO THE UNITED 02:50.737 --> 02:53.339 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% STATES IN HUGE NUMBERS TO FACE 02:53.339 --> 02:54.974 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% PROSECUTION HERE. 02:54.974 --> 02:55.642 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> Thompson: CAN YOU TALK A 02:55.642 --> 02:56.776 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THE 02:56.776 --> 02:58.111 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COAST GUARD SAID TO YOU DURING 02:58.111 --> 02:59.379 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% YOUR REPORTING THIS STORY? 02:59.379 --> 03:01.514 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AND WHAT'S THEIR RESPONSE? 03:01.514 --> 03:03.049 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE 03:03.049 --> 03:04.851 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COAST GUARD... THE COAST GUARD 03:04.851 --> 03:06.586 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SAYS THAT IT'S LOGISTICALLY 03:06.586 --> 03:09.255 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% DIFFICULT TO OPERATE IN THE HIGH 03:09.255 --> 03:11.124 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SEAS OF THE PACIFIC, VERY FAR 03:11.124 --> 03:12.725 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AWAY FROM... FROM THE UNITED 03:12.725 --> 03:13.226 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% STATES. 03:13.226 --> 03:14.561 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AND WHAT'S CLEAR IS THAT THE 03:14.561 --> 03:16.062 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% INFRASTRUCTURE TO MOVE PEOPLE 03:16.062 --> 03:19.332 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% MORE QUICKLY OFF OF THE BOATS IS 03:19.332 --> 03:22.068 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% NOT... NOT KEPT UP AT ALL. 03:22.068 --> 03:23.770 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COAST GUARD OFFICERS I SPOKE TO, 03:23.770 --> 03:25.038 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% CURRENT AND FORMER COAST GUARD 03:25.038 --> 03:26.105 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% OFFICERS, THEY'RE REALLY 03:26.105 --> 03:27.373 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT THESE 03:27.373 --> 03:28.208 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% PRACTICES. 03:28.208 --> 03:29.943 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THEY KNOW-- AND THE COAST GUARD 03:29.943 --> 03:31.477 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SAYS-- THESE SHIPS ARE NOT 03:31.477 --> 03:32.879 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% EQUIPPED AS DETENTION CENTERS. 03:32.879 --> 03:34.180 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% SO, INSTEAD, THEY'RE HOLDING 03:34.180 --> 03:36.216 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% PEOPLE IN CONDITIONS THAT, FOR 03:36.216 --> 03:39.219 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THE DETAINEES, ARE REALLY... ARE 03:39.219 --> 03:40.019 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% TERRIFYING. 03:40.019 --> 03:41.154 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> Thompson: AND IS THERE ANY 03:41.154 --> 03:42.922 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% EVIDENCE THAT THIS PRACTICE IS 03:42.922 --> 03:44.591 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% STOPPING THE FLOW OF DRUGS INTO 03:44.591 --> 03:45.792 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THE U.S.? 03:45.792 --> 03:46.893 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> WE CAN'T REALLY DRAW A LINE 03:46.893 --> 03:48.661 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% BETWEEN WHAT THE U.S. COAST 03:48.661 --> 03:50.230 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% GUARD IS DOING AND DRUG USE IN 03:50.230 --> 03:50.997 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% THE UNITED STATES. 03:50.997 --> 03:52.565 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COCAINE USE IN PARTICULAR-- AND 03:52.565 --> 03:53.733 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT 03:53.733 --> 03:57.103 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% COCAINE HERE-- GOES UP AND DOWN 03:57.103 --> 03:58.504 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% EVEN AS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE 03:58.504 --> 04:00.240 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% BEING DETAINED EACH YEAR IN 04:00.240 --> 04:01.975 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% RECENT YEARS HAS BEEN GOING UP 04:01.975 --> 04:03.009 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% AND UP AND UP. 04:03.009 --> 04:03.843 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> Thompson: ALL RIGHT, SETH 04:03.843 --> 04:05.211 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% FREED WESSLER, THANK YOU SO MUCH 04:05.211 --> 04:07.513 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% FOR YOUR REPORTING. 04:06.546 --> 04:07.547 align:left position:10%,start line:89% size:80% >> THANK YOU.