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JUDY WOODRUFF: Welcome to our 
"PBS NewsHour" special live 
coverage of President Trump's

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second State of the 
Union address, and the 
Democratic response.

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I'm Judy Woodruff.

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Mr. Trump faces a deeply 
divided Congress and nation.

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He is expected to call for 
unity, while, at the same time, 
continuing his demand for a

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wall on the U.S. southern 
border with Mexico.

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Tonight's address was delayed a 
week by the federal government 
shutdown, with another

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potentially on the 
horizon next week.

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Stacey Abrams, who lost a close 
governor's race in Georgia 
last November, will deliver

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the Democratic response.

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But, for the first time, we 
will see newly elected Speaker 
of the House Nancy Pelosi

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seated behind Mr. Trump.

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It is his first address before 
this divided Congress, with 
a new Democratic majority in

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the House.

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Our Lisa Desjardins is there 
at the Capitol, and Yamiche 
Alcindor is at the White House.

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Yamiche, the president 
left the White House.

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He has just arrived 
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What do we expect him to say?

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YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Well, we know 
that president is extremely 
excited to deliver this State

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of the Union address 
in the House chambers.

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Important to note that 
the president at one 
point was looking at 
other locations outside

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Washington, D.C., to deliver 
his State of the Union address, 
but instead decided that

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the House was where he wanted 
to deliver it because of all 
of its grandeur and all of

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its history.

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We know that the president 
is going to be talking 
about immigration.

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He is going to be casting 
immigration as a moral issue, 
and saying that the political

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class of D.C. that is safe and 
that has gates on their homes, 
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that same sense of security 
to working-class people.

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The president is also 
going to try to deliver 
a unifying message and 
talk about prescription

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drugs and infrastructure.

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But the one thing to remember, 
of course, is that the 
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issues on that, because 
Democrats are saying that 
he has offended them, 
that he has insulted

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Democrats, that he has even 
suggested that Democrats don't 
believe in border security.

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But we are going to try to 
think that the president is 
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a message to say this is 
not about his agenda, but 
about America's agenda.

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JUDY WOODRUFF: And, Lisa, at 
the Capitol, it is hard to 
think of a State of the Union

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that has been preceded by as 
much drama as we have had over 
the last few weeks, waiting

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to see whether this government 
shutdown would end, they would 
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agreement.

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How has that affected 
the anticipation there?

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LISA DESJARDINS: I think 
there is a lot of anxiety and 
frustration at deeper levels,

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especially for Republicans 
here at the U.S. Capitol.

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But it is an interesting 
contrast tonight, Judy, because 
there is also a different kind

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of excitement than I have 
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And that's because -- think 
about it -- there are 101 new 
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of them never elected 
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(CROSSTALK)

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JUDY WOODRUFF: Lisa, I have 
got to interrupt you just 
a second, just one second.

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MAN: The president 
of the United States!

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(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

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JUDY WOODRUFF: And the president 
enters the chamber of the 
House of Representatives.

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Lisa, I interrupted you, so 
that we could hear the president 
announce by the sergeant

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at arms.

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But continue with 
what you were saying.

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You were saying a 
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LISA DESJARDINS: Well, I 
am happy to be interrupted 
by the announcement of 
the president of the

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United States.

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LISA DESJARDINS: I will step 
aside any time for that.

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There is anxiety, especially 
among Republicans, 
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And kind of in general, the 
last year has been one of 
ups and downs legislatively.

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However, there is a lot of 
excitement because think about 
this; 101 people in that chamber

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are newly elected.

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They have never been to a 
State of the Union before.

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So there is almost just sort 
of like a first day of school 
kind of excitement for many

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of these especially younger 
and first-time lawmakers that 
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JUDY WOODRUFF: Yes.

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You are exactly right.

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And a lot of them are 
a lot younger than the 
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As we watch President Trump 
greet and be greeted by members 
of Congress who are seated there

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along the aisle, I want to 
introduce all of you to the 
team who is going to be with me,

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watching the president and 
analyzing his remarks later.

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Joining us all this night, 
syndicated columnist 
Mark Shields, Amy Walter 
of The Cook Political

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Report, Peter Wehner of the 
Ethics and Policy - - Public 
Policy Center in Washington.

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He served in the last three 
Republican administrations.

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Karine Jean-Pierre, senior 
adviser to MoveOn.org, she 
worked in the Obama White House.

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And Chris Buskirk, editor 
of the conservative 
blog American Greatness.

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Welcome to all of you.

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And, Mark Shields, I am 
going to come to you first.

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MARK SHIELDS: Sure.

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JUDY WOODRUFF: This is the -- 
President Trump's second State 
of the Union address, but the

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atmosphere, I think it 
is fair to say, is very 
different from last year.

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MARK SHIELDS: Totally 
different, Judy.

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It's a -- after presidents 
have suffered stinging 
rebukes in midterm elections, 
the common approach

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is to reach for common ground, 
to reach across the aisle, to 
come in a little bit humbled,

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as Bill Clinton did in '94, 
as George Bush did in 2007.

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And it will be interesting to 
see if Donald - - if President 
Donald Trump does try that

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sort of grace note that 
particularly comes to mind with 
George W. Bush, who said that

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he was -- he felt privileged 
to speak words that nobody 
had ever spoken before, "Madam

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Speaker," when he introduced 
Nancy Pelosi the first 
time she was speaker.

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And so I will just be interested 
to see how he handles the 
rebuke, or just ignores it.

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JUDY WOODRUFF: And President 
Trump is giving, as tradition 
would have it, a copy of his

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remarks, the address, 
to both Speaker Pelosi 
and Vice President Mike 
Pence, both of whom

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will be sitting behind him.

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And we will be watching their 
reaction throughout the night, 
because they are the fixture, as

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- - again, as tradition 
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The president at this point 
enjoying a round of applause 
that he is getting as he -- and

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everybody is standing, 
Democrats and Republicans.

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It is a point of honor as 
the president comes in.

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Peter Wehner, you have 
watched this president before.

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He seems to be 
enjoying the moment.

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PETER WEHNER, Ethics and Public 
Policy Center: Well, he enjoys 
it when he's the center of

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attention.

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And he is the 
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But I tell you, what I am 
looking for in the speech is -- 
his aides were saying that this

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is going to be an effort 
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I just don't think 
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And the reason I don't is that 
this is a person whose entire 
presidency has been based on

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division and acrimony and anger.

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And, number one, I don't 
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And, number two, even if he 
does, I don't know how plausible 
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last.

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JUDY WOODRUFF: Amy Walter, 
that is the skepticism that 
is out there, isn't it?

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AMY WALTER, The Cook Political 
Report: Well, and it is 
a well-earned skepticism.

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AMY WALTER: But, look, there 
are actually real things on 
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be -- theoretically, have to 
be figured out in the next few 
days here, especially about

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a potential government shutdown.

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DONALD TRUMP, President 
of the United States: 
Thank you very much.

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JUDY WOODRUFF: The president.

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DONALD TRUMP: Madam Speaker, 
Mr. Vice President, members of 
Congress, the first lady of the

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United States.

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(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

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Madam Speaker, Mr. Vice 
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States, and my fellow 
Americans:We meet tonight at a 
moment of unlimited potential.

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As we begin a new Congress, 
I stand here ready to 
work with you to achieve 
historic breakthroughs

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for all Americans.

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Millions of our fellow citizens 
are watching us now, gathered 
in this great chamber, hoping

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that we will govern not as 
TWO PARTIES but as ONE NATION.

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The agenda I will lay out this 
evening is not a Republican 
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It is the agenda of 
the American People.

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Many of us campaigned on 
the same core promises: 
to defend American jobs 
and demand FAIR TRADE

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for American workers; to rebuild 
and revitalize our nation's 
infrastructure; to reduce the

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price of healthcare and 
prescription drugs; to create an 
immigration system that is safe,

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lawful, modern and secure; 
and to pursue a foreign policy 
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There is a new opportunity in 
American politics, if only we 
have the courage to seize it.

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Victory is not 
winning for our party.

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Victory is winning 
for our COUNTRY.

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This year, America will 
recognize two important 
anniversaries that 
show us the Majesty of

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America's Mission, and the 
Power of American Pride.

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In June, we mark 75 years 
since the start of what General 
Dwight D. Eisenhower called

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the Great Crusade - the 
Allied liberation of 
Europe in World War II.

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On D-Day, June 6th, 1944, 
fifteen thousand young American 
men jumped from the sky and

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sixty thousand more stormed 
in from the sea, to save our 
civilization from tyranny.

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Here with us tonight are 
three of those heroes: 
Private First Class Joseph 
Reilly, Staff Sergeant

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Irving Locker, and 
Sergeant Herman Zeitchik.

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Gentlemen, we salute you.

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In 2019, we also celebrate 50 
years since brave young pilots 
flew a quarter of a million

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miles through space to 
plant the American flag 
on the face of the moon.

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Half a century later, we are 
joined by one of the Apollo 
11 astronauts who planted that

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flag: Buzz Aldrin.

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This year American 
astronauts will go back to 
space on American rockets.

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In the 20th century, 
America saved freedom, 
transformed science, 
and redefined the middle

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class standard of living 
for the entire world to see.

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Now, we must step boldly and 
bravely into the next chapter of 
this Great American Adventure,

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and we must create a 
new standard of living 
for the 21st century.

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An amazing quality of life 
for all of our citizens 
is within our reach.

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We can make our communities 
safer, our families 
stronger, our culture 
richer, our faith deeper,

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and our Middle Class 
bigger and more prosperous 
than ever before.

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But we must reject the politics 
of revenge, resistance and 
retribution - and embrace

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the boundless potential 
of cooperation, compromise 
and the common good.

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Together, we can break decades 
of political stalemate.

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We can bridge old divisions, 
heal old wounds, build new 
coalitions, forge new solutions,

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and unlock the extraordinary 
promise of America's future.

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The decision is ours to make.

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We must choose between greatness 
or gridlock, results or 
resistance, vision or vengeance,

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incredible progress or 
pointless destruction.

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Tonight, I ask you 
to choose GREATNESS.

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Over the last two years, my 
administration has moved with 
urgency and historic speed

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to confront problems 
neglected by leaders of BOTH 
parties over many decades.

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In just over two years since 
the election, we have launched 
an unprecedented economic

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boom - a boom that has 
rarely been seen before.

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We have created 5.3 million 
new jobs and importantly 
added 600,000 new 
manufacturing jobs -something

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which almost everyone said 
was impossible to do, but the 
fact is, we are just getting

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Wages are rising at the fastest 
pace in decades, and growing 
for blue collar workers, who I

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promised to fight for, 
faster than anyone else.

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Nearly 5 million Americans have 
been lifted off food stamps.

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The U.S. economy is growing 
almost twice as fast today as 
when I took office, and we are

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considered far and away 
the hottest economy 
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Unemployment has reached the 
lowest rate in half a century.

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African-American, 
Hispanic-American and 
Asian-American unemployment 
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levels ever recorded.

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Unemployment for Americans 
with disabilities has also 
reached an all-time low.

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More people are working 
now than at any time in 
our history - 157 million.

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We passed a massive tax cut 
for working families and 
doubled the child tax credit.

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We virtually ended the 
estate, or death, tax 
on small businesses, 
ranches, and family farms.

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We eliminated the very 
unpopular Obamacare individual 
mandate penalty - and to give

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critically ill patients 
access to life-saving cures, 
we passed RIGHT TO TRY.

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My Administration has cut more 
regulations in a short time 
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during its entire tenure.

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Companies are coming 
back to our country in 
large numbers thanks to 
our historic reductions

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in taxes and regulations.

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We have unleashed a revolution 
in American Energy - the 
United States is now the number

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one producer of oil and 
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And now, for the first 
time in 65 years, we are 
a net exporter of energy.

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After 24 months of rapid 
progress, our economy 
is the envy of the 
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the most powerful on earth, and

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America is winning 
each and every day.

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Members of Congress: the 
State of our Union is Strong.

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Our country is vibrant and 
our economy is thriving 
like never before.

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On Friday, it was announced 
that we added another 304,000 
jobs last month alone - almost

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double what was expected.

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An economic miracle is taking 
place in the United States 
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can stop it are foolish 
wars, politics or ridiculous 
partisan investigations.

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If there is going to be peace 
and legislation, there cannot 
be war and investigation.

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It just doesn't work that way!

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We must be united at home to 
defeat our adversaries abroad.

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This new era of cooperation can 
start with finally confirming 
the more than 300 highly

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qualified nominees who are 
still stuck in the Senate - 
some after years of waiting.

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The Senate has failed to 
act on these nominations, 
which is unfair to the 
nominees and to our

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country.

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Now is the time for 
bipartisan action.

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Believe it or not, we 
have already proven 
that it is possible.

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In the last Congress, 
both parties came together 
to pass unprecedented 
legislation to confront

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the opioid crisis, a sweeping 
new Farm Bill, historic VA 
reforms, and after four decades

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of rejection, we passed VA 
Accountability so we can finally 
terminate those who mistreat

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our wonderful veterans.

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And just weeks ago, both parties 
united for groundbreaking 
Criminal Justice Reform.

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Last year, I heard 
through friends the 
story of Alice Johnson.

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I was deeply moved.

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In 1997, Alice was sentenced to 
life in prison as a first-time 
non-violent drug offender.

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Over the next two decades, 
she became a prison 
minister, inspiring 
others to choose a better

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path.

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She had a big impact on 
that prison population 
- and far beyond.

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Alice's story underscores the 
disparities and unfairness 
that can exist in criminal

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sentencing - and the need 
to remedy this injustice.

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She served almost 22 years and 
had expected to be in prison 
for the rest of her life.

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In June, I commuted Alice's 
sentence -when I saw Alice's 
beautiful family greet her

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at the prison gates, hugging 
and kissing and crying and 
laughing, I knew I did the right

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thing - Alice is 
here with us tonight.

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Alice, thank you for reminding 
us that we always have the 
power to shape our own destiny.

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Inspired by stories like 
Alice's, my administration 
worked closely with 
members of both parties

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to sign the First 
Step Act into law.

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This legislation 
reformed sentencing laws 
that have wrongly and 
disproportionately harmed

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the African-American community.

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The First Step Act gives 
non-violent offenders 
the chance to re-enter 
society as productive,

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law-abiding citizens.

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Now, states across the country 
are following our lead.

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America is a nation that 
believes in redemption.

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We are also joined tonight by 
Matthew Charles from Tennessee.

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In 1996, at age 30, Matthew 
was sentenced to 35 years 
for selling drugs and related

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offenses.

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Over the next two decades, he 
completed more than 30 Bible 
studies, became a law clerk,

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and mentored fellow inmates.

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Now, Matthew is the very first 
person to be released from 
prison under the First Step

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Act.

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Matthew, on behalf of All 
Americans: WELCOME HOME.

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Now, Republicans and 
Democrats must join forces 
again to confront an 
urgent national crisis.

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Congress has 10 days 
left to pass a bill that 
will fund our government, 
protect our homeland,

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and secure our Southern Border.

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Now is the time for Congress 
to show the world that America 
is committed to ending illegal

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immigration and putting the 
ruthless coyotes, cartels, drug 
dealers, and human traffickers

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OUT OF BUSINESS.

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As we speak, large, organized 
caravans are on the march 
to the United States.

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We have just heard that Mexican 
cities, in order to remove 
the illegal immigrants from

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their communities, are getting 
trucks and buses to bring them 
up to our country in areas

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where there is little 
border protection.

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I have ordered another 3,750 
troops to our Southern Border 
to prepare for the tremendous

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onslaught.

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This is a MORAL issue.

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The lawless state of 
our Southern Border is 
a threat to the safety, 
security and financial

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well-being of all Americans.

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We have a moral duty to create 
an immigration system that 
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our citizens.

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This includes our obligation 
to the millions of immigrants 
living here today, who followed

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the rules and 
respected our laws.

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LEGAL immigrants enrich our 
nation and strengthen our 
society in countless ways.

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I want people to come 
into our country, but they 
have to come in legally.

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Tonight, I am asking you to 
defend our very dangerous 
southern border out of LOVE and

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DEVOTION to our fellow 
citizens and to our country.

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No issue better illustrates 
the divide between America's 
WORKING CLASS and America's

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POLITICAL CLASS than 
illegal immigration.

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Wealthy politicians and donors 
push for open borders while 
living their lives behind walls

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and gates and guards.

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Meanwhile, working class 
Americans are left to pay the 
price for mass illegal migration

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- reduced jobs, lower wages, 
overburdened schools and 
hospitals, increased crime, and

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a depleted social safety net.

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Tolerance for illegal 
immigration is not 
compassionate - it is cruel.

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1 in 3 women is sexually 
assaulted on the 
long journey north.

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Smugglers use migrant children 
as human pawns to exploit our 
laws and gain access to our

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country.

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Human traffickers and sex 
traffickers take advantage of 
the wide open areas between our

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ports of entry to smuggle 
thousands of young girls and 
women into the United States and

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to sell them into prostitution 
and modern-day slavery.

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Tens of thousands of innocent 
Americans are killed by lethal 
drugs that cross our border

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and flood into our cities 
- including meth, heroin, 
cocaine and fentanyl.

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The savage gang, MS-13, 
now operates in at 
least 20 different 
American states, and they

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almost all come through 
our Southern Border.

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Just yesterday, an MS-13 gang 
member was taken into custody 
for a fatal shooting on a subway

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platform in New York City.

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We are removing these gang 
members by the thousands, but 
until we secure our border

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they're going to keep 
streaming back in.

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Year after year, countless 
Americans are murdered by 
criminal illegal aliens.

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I've gotten to know many 
wonderful Angel Moms, Dads and 
families -no one should ever

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have to suffer the horrible 
heartache they have endured.

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Here tonight is Debra Bissell.

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Just three weeks ago, Debra's 
parents, Gerald and Sharon, were 
burglarized and shot to death

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in their Reno, Nevada 
home by an illegal alien.

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They were in their eighties 
and are survived by 4 
children, 11 grandchildren, 
and 20 great-grandchildren.

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Also here tonight are Gerald 
and Sharon's granddaughter, 
Heather, and great-granddaughter

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Madison.

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To Debra, Heather, Madison, 
please stand:few can 
understand your pain.

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But I will never forget, and 
I will fight for the memory 
of Gerald and Sharon, that

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it should never happen again.

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Not one more American 
life should be lost 
because our nation failed 
to control its very

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dangerous border.

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In the last two years, 
our brave ICE officers 
made 266,000 arrests of 
criminal aliens, including

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those charged or convicted of 
nearly 100,000 assaults, 30,000 
sex crimes, and 4,000 killings.

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We are joined tonight by 
one of those law enforcement 
heroes: ICE Special Agent Elvin

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Hernandez.

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When

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Elvin was a boy, he and his 
family legally immigrated to the 
United States from the Dominican

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Republic.

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At the age of eight, Elvin 
told his dad he wanted to 
become a Special Agent.

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Today, he leads investigations 
into the scourge of 
international sex trafficking.

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Elvin says: "If I can make sure 
these young girls get their 
justice, I've done my job."

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Thanks to his work and 
that of his colleagues, 
more than 300 women and 
girls have been rescued

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from horror and more than 
1,500 sadistic traffickers 
have been put behind bars.

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Special Agent Hernandez please 
stand: We will ALWAYS support 
the brave men and women of

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Law Enforcement -and I pledge 
to you tonight that we will 
NEVER Abolish our heroes from

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ICE.

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My administration has sent 
to Congress a commonsense 
proposal to end the 
crisis on our Southern

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Border.

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It includes humanitarian 
assistance, more law 
enforcement, drug 
detection at our ports,

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closing loopholes that enable 
child smuggling, and plans for 
a new physical barrier, or wall,

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to secure the vast areas 
between our ports of entry.

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This

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is a smart, strategic, 
see-through steel barrier - not 
just a simple concrete wall.

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It will be deployed in the areas 
identified by border agents 
as having the greatest need,

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and as these agents will 
tell you, where walls go up, 
illegal crossings go way down.

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San Diego used to have 
the most illegal border 
crossings in the country.

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In response, a strong security 
wall was put in place.

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This powerful barrier 
almost completely ended 
illegal crossings.

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The border city of El Paso, 
Texas, used to have extremely 
high rates of violent crime

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- one of the highest in the 
country, and considered one 
of our nation's most dangerous

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cities.

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Now, with a powerful barrier 
in place, El Paso is one 
of our safest cities.

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Simply put, WALLS WORK 
and WALLS SAVE LIVES.

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So let's work together, 
compromise, and reach a deal 
that will truly make America

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SAFE.

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As we work to defend our 
people's safety, we must also 
ensure our economic resurgence

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continues at a rapid pace.

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No one has benefitted more from 
our thriving economy than women, 
who have filled 58 percent

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of the new jobs created 
in the last year.

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All Americans can be proud 
that we have more women in the 
workforce than ever before -

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and exactly one century 
after Congress passed 
the Constitutional 
Amendment giving women

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the right to vote, we also 
have more women serving in 
Congress than ever before.

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As part of our commitment to 
improving opportunity for women 
everywhere, this Thursday we are

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launching the first ever 
government-wide initiative 
focused on economic 
empowerment for women

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in developing countries.

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To build on our incredible 
economic success, one priority 
is paramount -reversing decades

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of calamitous trade policies.

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We are now making it 
clear to China that after 
years of targeting our 
industries, and stealing

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our intellectual property, 
the theft of American jobs 
and wealth has come to an end.

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Therefore, we recently imposed 
tariffs on $250 billion 
dollars of Chinese goods - and

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now our Treasury is receiving 
billions of dollars.

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But I don't blame China for 
taking advantage of us - I blame 
our leaders and representatives

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for allowing this 
travesty to happen.

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I have great respect for 
President Xi, and we are now 
working on a new trade deal with

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China.

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But it must include real, 
structural change to end unfair 
trade practices, reduce our

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chronic trade deficit, 
and protect American jobs.

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Another historic 
trade blunder was the 
catastrophe known as NAFTA.

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I have met the men and women of 
Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, 
Indiana, New Hampshire,

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and many other states whose 
dreams were shattered by NAFTA.

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For years, politicians 
promised them they would 
negotiate for a better deal.

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But no one ever 
TRIED - until now.

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Our new U.S.-Mexico-Canada 
Agreement - or USMCA - will 
replace NAFTA and deliver for

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American workers: bringing 
back our manufacturing 
jobs, expanding American 
agriculture, protecting

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intellectual property, 
and ensuring that more 
cars are proudly stamped 
with the four beautiful

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words: MADE IN THE USA.

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Tonight, I am also asking 
you to pass the United States 
Reciprocal Trade Act, so that

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if another country places an 
unfair tariff on an American 
product, we can charge them

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the exact same tariff 
on the same product 
that they sell to us.

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Both parties should be able to 
unite for a great rebuilding 
of America's crumbling

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infrastructure.

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I know that Congress is eager to 
pass an infrastructure bill -and 
I am eager to work with you on

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legislation to deliver new 
and important infrastructure 
investment, including 
investments in the cutting

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edge industries of the future.

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This is not an option.

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This is a necessity.

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The next major priority for me, 
and for all of us, should be 
to lower the cost of healthcare

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and prescription drugs - 
and to protect patients with 
pre-existing conditions.

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Already, as a result 
of my administration's 
efforts, in 2018 drug 
prices experienced their

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single largest 
decline in 46 years.

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But we must do more.

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It is unacceptable that 
Americans pay vastly 
more than people in 
other countries for the

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exact same drugs, often made 
in the exact same place.

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This is wrong, unfair, and 
together we can stop it.

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I am asking Congress to 
pass legislation that 
finally takes on the problem 
of global freeloading

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and delivers fairness 
and price transparency 
for American Patients.

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We should also require drug 
companies, insurance companies, 
and hospitals to disclose real

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prices to foster competition 
and bring costs down.

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No force in history has done 
more to advance the human 
condition than American Freedom.

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In recent years we have made 
remarkable progress in the 
fight against HIV and AIDS.

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Scientific breakthroughs 
have brought a once-distant 
dream within reach.

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My budget will ask Democrats 
and Republicans to make the 
needed commitment to eliminate

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the HIV epidemic in the 
United States within 10 years.

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Together, we will 
defeat AIDS in America.

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Tonight I am also asking you to 
join me in another fight that 
all Americans can get behind:

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the fight against 
childhood cancer.

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Joining Melania in the gallery 
this evening is a very brave 10 
year old girl, Grace Ee-line.

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Every birthday

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since she was 4, Grace asked her 
friends to donate to St. Jude 
Children's Research Hospital.

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She did not know that one day 
she might be a patient herself.

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Last year, Grace was 
diagnosed with brain cancer.

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Immediately, she began 
radiation treatment.

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At the same time, she rallied 
her community and raised more 
than $40,000 dollars for the

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fight against cancer.

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When Grace completed treatment 
last fall, her doctors and 
nurses cheered with tears

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in their eyes as she hung 
up a poster that read: 
"Last day of Keemo."

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Grace - you are an 
inspiration to us all.

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Many childhood cancers have not 
seen new therapies in decades.

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01:00:28,666 --> 01:00:32,600
My budget will ask Congress 
for $500 million dollars over 
the next 10 years to fund this

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01:00:33,466 --> 01:00:36,266
critical life-saving research.

418
01:00:36,266 --> 01:00:41,266
To help support working parents, 
the time has come to pass 
SCHOOL CHOICE for America's

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01:00:46,566 --> 01:00:50,200
children.

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01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:55,166
I am also proud to be the first 
President to include in my 
budget a plan for nationwide

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01:01:06,533 --> 01:01:11,533
paid family leave - so that 
every new parent has the chance 
to bond with their newborn

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01:01:14,233 --> 01:01:19,233
child.

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01:01:21,866 --> 01:01:26,866
There could be no greater 
contrast to the beautiful image 
of a mother holding her infant

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01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:41,000
child than the chilling displays 
our nation saw in recent days.

425
01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:49,666
Lawmakers in New York cheered 
with delight upon the passage 
of legislation that would

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01:01:51,633 --> 01:01:56,033
allow a baby to be ripped 
from the mother's womb 
moments before birth.

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01:01:58,466 --> 01:02:03,433
These are living, feeling, 
beautiful, babies who will never 
get the chance to share their

428
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:07,433
love and dreams with the world.

429
01:02:07,433 --> 01:02:12,433
And then, we had the 
case of the Governor of 
Virginia where he stated

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01:02:13,633 --> 01:02:17,033
he would execute a 
baby after birth.

431
01:02:17,033 --> 01:02:22,033
To defend the dignity of every 
person, I am asking Congress 
to pass legislation to prohibit

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01:02:25,366 --> 01:02:30,366
the late-term abortion 
of children who can feel 
pain in the mother's womb.

433
01:02:55,933 --> 01:03:00,900
Let us work together 
to build a culture that 
cherishes innocent life.

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01:03:24,766 --> 01:03:29,766
And let us reaffirm a 
fundamental truth: all children 
- born and unborn - are made

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01:03:33,366 --> 01:03:35,833
in the holy image of God.

436
01:03:35,833 --> 01:03:40,833
The final part of my agenda 
is to protect America's 
National Security.

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01:03:46,166 --> 01:03:51,166
Over the last two years, we 
have begun to fully rebuild the 
United States Military -with

438
01:03:54,333 --> 01:03:59,333
$700 billion dollars last 
year and $716 billion 
dollars this year.

439
01:04:03,233 --> 01:04:08,233
We are also getting other 
nations to pay their fair share.

440
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:29,600
For years, the United States 
was being treated very unfairly 
by NATO - but now we have

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01:04:37,666 --> 01:04:42,666
secured a $100 billion 
dollar increase in defense 
spending from NATO allies.

442
01:04:53,433 --> 01:04:58,433
As part of our military 
build-up, the United 
States is developing a 
state-of-the-art Missile

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01:05:11,866 --> 01:05:14,433
Defense System.

444
01:05:14,433 --> 01:05:19,433
Under my Administration, 
we will never apologize for 
advancing America's interests.

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01:05:22,666 --> 01:05:27,666
For example, decades ago the 
United States entered into a 
treaty with Russia in which

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01:05:30,366 --> 01:05:35,366
we agreed to limit and reduce 
our missile capabilities.

447
01:05:37,233 --> 01:05:41,933
While we followed the 
agreement to the letter, Russia 
repeatedly violated its terms.

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01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:55,000
That is why I announced 
that the United States 
is officially withdrawing 
from the Intermediate-Range

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01:05:57,333 --> 01:06:02,333
Nuclear Forces 
Treaty, or INF Treaty.

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01:06:03,133 --> 01:06:08,133
Perhaps

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01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:26,100
we can negotiate a different 
agreement, adding China and 
others, or perhaps we can't -in

452
01:06:30,066 --> 01:06:35,066
which case, we will outspend and 
out-innovate all others by far.

453
01:06:48,866 --> 01:06:53,866
As part of a bold new diplomacy, 
we continue our historic 
push for peace on the Korean

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01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:58,700
Peninsula.

455
01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:03,700
Our hostages have come home, 
nuclear testing has stopped, 
and there has not been a missile

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01:07:06,533 --> 01:07:09,733
launch in 15 months.

457
01:07:09,733 --> 01:07:14,733
If I had not been elected 
President of the United 
States, we would right 
now, in my opinion,

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01:07:18,133 --> 01:07:23,133
be in a major war 
with North Korea.

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01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:33,900
Much work remains to be done, 
but my relationship with 
Kim Jong Un is a good one.

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01:07:36,433 --> 01:07:41,433
Chairman Kim and I will 
meet again on February 
27 and 28 in Vietnam.

461
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,400
Two weeks ago, the 
United States officially 
recognized the legitimate 
government of Venezuela,

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01:08:00,666 --> 01:08:05,633
and its new interim 
President, Juan Gwydo.

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01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:18,200
We stand with the Venezuelan 
people in their noble quest 
for freedom - and we condemn

464
01:08:21,700 --> 01:08:26,700
the brutality of the Maduro 
regime, whose socialist 
policies have turned that nation

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01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:35,800
from being the wealthiest in 
South America into a state of 
abject poverty and despair.

466
01:08:40,833 --> 01:08:45,833
Here, in the United States, 
we are alarmed by new calls to 
adopt socialism in our country.

467
01:08:59,666 --> 01:09:04,666
America was founded on 
liberty and independence 
- not government 
coercion, domination and

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01:09:07,366 --> 01:09:08,566
control.

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01:09:08,566 --> 01:09:13,366
We are BORN FREE, and 
we will STAY FREE.

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01:09:27,766 --> 01:09:32,766
Tonight, we renew our resolve 
that America will NEVER 
be a socialist country.

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01:09:58,733 --> 01:10:03,733
One of the most complex 
set of challenges we face 
is in the Middle East.

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01:10:07,900 --> 01:10:12,900
Our approach is based 
on principled realism 
- not discredited 
theories that have failed

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01:10:14,933 --> 01:10:19,933
for decades to yield progress.

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01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:25,200
For this reason, my 
Administration recognized 
the TRUE capital of 
Israel - and proudly

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01:10:27,966 --> 01:10:32,966
opened the American 
Embassy in Jerusalem.

476
01:10:46,566 --> 01:10:51,533
Our brave troops have now 
been fighting in the Middle 
East for almost 19 years.

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01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,966
In Afghanistan and Iraq, 
nearly 7,000 American Heroes 
have given their lives.

478
01:11:05,133 --> 01:11:10,133
More than 52,000 Americans 
have been badly wounded.

479
01:11:11,666 --> 01:11:16,233
We have spent more than 
$7 trillion dollars 
in the Middle East.

480
01:11:19,633 --> 01:11:24,633
As a candidate for President, 
I pledged a new approach.

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01:11:27,833 --> 01:11:32,833
Great nations do not 
fight endless wars.

482
01:11:48,466 --> 01:11:53,433
When I took office, ISIS 
controlled more than 20,000 
square miles in Iraq and Syria.

483
01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:03,266
Today, we have liberated 
virtually all of that 
territory from the grip 
of these bloodthirsty

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01:12:09,433 --> 01:12:11,400
killers.

485
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:16,266
Now, as we work with our allies 
to destroy the remnants of 
ISIS, it is time to give our

486
01:12:19,966 --> 01:12:24,966
brave warriors in Syria 
a warm welcome home.

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01:12:27,366 --> 01:12:31,033
I have also accelerated 
our negotiations to 
reach a political 
settlement in Afghanistan.

488
01:12:45,633 --> 01:12:50,633
Our troops have fought with 
unmatched valor - and thanks 
to their bravery, we are now

489
01:12:53,866 --> 01:12:58,833
able to pursue a political 
solution to this long 
and bloody conflict.

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01:13:19,900 --> 01:13:24,900
In Afghanistan, my 
Administration is holding 
constructive talks 
with a number of Afghan

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01:13:27,933 --> 01:13:32,566
groups, including the Taliban.

492
01:13:32,566 --> 01:13:37,566
As we make progress in these 
negotiations, we will be able 
to reduce our troop presence

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01:13:39,633 --> 01:13:44,633
and focus on counter-terrorism.

494
01:13:47,333 --> 01:13:52,333
We do not know whether we 
will achieve an agreement - 
but we do know that after two

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01:13:54,033 --> 01:13:59,033
decades of war, the hour has 
come to at least try for PEACE.

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01:14:06,666 --> 01:14:11,666
Above all, friend and foe alike 
must never doubt this nation's 
power and will to defend

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01:14:24,966 --> 01:14:26,900
our people.

498
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:31,533
18 years ago, terrorists 
attacked the USS Cole - and last 
month American Forces killed

499
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:44,200
one of the leaders 
of the attack.

500
01:14:58,133 --> 01:15:03,133
We are honored to be 
joined tonight by Tom 
Wibberley, whose son, Navy 
Seaman Craig Wibberley,

501
01:15:06,966 --> 01:15:11,966
was one of the 17 sailors 
we tragically lost.

502
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:17,333
Tom: we vow to always remember 
the heroes of the USS Cole.

503
01:15:39,733 --> 01:15:44,733
My administration has acted 
decisively to confront the 
world's leading state sponsor

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01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:51,900
of terror: the radical 
regime in Iran.

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:03,400
To ensure this corrupt 
dictatorship never 
acquires nuclear weapons, 
I withdrew the United

506
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:11,400
States from the disastrous 
Iran nuclear deal.

507
01:16:13,366 --> 01:16:18,133
And last fall, we put in 
place the toughest sanctions 
ever imposed on a country.

508
01:16:32,166 --> 01:16:37,166
We will not avert our eyes from 
a regime that chants Death to 
America and threatens genocide

509
01:16:41,766 --> 01:16:46,766
against the Jewish People.

510
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:53,633
We must never ignore 
the vile poison of 
Anti-Semitism, or those who 
spread its venomous creed.

511
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:12,600
With one voice, we must 
confront this hatred anywhere 
and everywhere it occurs.

512
01:17:15,566 --> 01:17:20,566
Just months ago, 11 
Jewish-Americans were 
viciously murdered in 
an Anti-Semitic attack

513
01:17:25,033 --> 01:17:28,266
on the Tree of Life 
Synagogue in Pittsburgh.

514
01:17:28,266 --> 01:17:33,266
SWAT Officer Timothy Matson 
raced into the gunfire and was 
shot seven times chasing down

515
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,700
the killer.

516
01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:46,700
Timothy has just had his 12th 
surgery - but he made the trip 
to be here with us tonight.

517
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:03,100
Officer Matson: we are 
forever grateful for your 
courage in the face of evil.

518
01:18:54,166 --> 01:18:59,166
Tonight we are also joined by 
Pittsburgh survivor Judah Samet.

519
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:05,000
He arrived at the synagogue 
as the massacre began.

520
01:19:06,866 --> 01:19:11,200
But not only did Judah narrowly 
escape death last fall - 
more than 7 decades ago, he

521
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:18,800
narrowly survived the 
Nazi concentration camps.

522
01:19:19,666 --> 01:19:24,400
Today is Judah's 81st birthday.

523
01:19:49,333 --> 01:19:54,333
Judah says he can still remember 
the exact moment, nearly 75 
years ago, after 10 months

524
01:20:42,233 --> 01:20:47,200
in a concentration camp, when 
he and his family were put on a 
train, and told they were going

525
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:52,066
to another camp.

526
01:20:52,066 --> 01:20:57,033
Suddenly the train 
screeched to a halt.

527
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:00,800
A soldier appeared.

528
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,833
Judah's family 
braced for the worst.

529
01:21:04,833 --> 01:21:09,833
Then, his father cried out 
with joy: "It's the AMERICANS."

530
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:43,200
A second Holocaust survivor 
who is here tonight, Joshua 
Kaufman, was a prisoner 
at Dachau Concentration

531
01:21:47,666 --> 01:21:49,733
Camp.

532
01:21:49,733 --> 01:21:53,633
He remembers watching through 
a hole in the wall of a cattle 
car as American soldiers

533
01:21:56,466 --> 01:21:58,533
rolled in with tanks.

534
01:21:58,533 --> 01:22:03,033
"To me," Joshua recalls, "the 
American soldiers were proof 
that God exists, and they

535
01:22:05,333 --> 01:22:08,333
came down from the sky."

536
01:22:08,333 --> 01:22:13,333
I began this evening by honoring 
three soldiers who fought on 
D-Day in the Second World War.

537
01:22:19,900 --> 01:22:24,100
One of them was 
Herman Zeitchick.

538
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:26,566
But there is more 
to Herman's story.

539
01:22:26,566 --> 01:22:31,566
A year after he stormed the 
Beaches of Normandy, Herman was 
one of those American Soldiers

540
01:22:35,633 --> 01:22:40,633
who helped liberate Dachau.

541
01:23:12,833 --> 01:23:17,833
He was one of the Americans 
who helped rescue Joshua 
from that hell on earth.

542
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:26,600
Almost 75 years later, Herman 
and Joshua are both together 
in the gallery tonight -seated

543
01:23:31,333 --> 01:23:36,133
side-by-side, here in the 
home of American Freedom.

544
01:23:36,133 --> 01:23:41,133
Herman and Joshua: your 
presence this evening honors 
and uplifts our entire nation.

545
01:24:18,700 --> 01:24:23,700
When American soldiers set out 
beneath the dark skies over 
the English Channel in the

546
01:24:25,700 --> 01:24:29,800
early hours of D-Day, 1944, 
they were just young men of 
18 and 19, hurtling on fragile

547
01:24:34,333 --> 01:24:39,333
landing craft toward the 
most momentous battle 
in the history of war.

548
01:24:42,533 --> 01:24:47,266
They did not know if they 
would survive the hour.

549
01:24:47,266 --> 01:24:51,533
They did not know if 
they would grow old.

550
01:24:51,533 --> 01:24:56,533
But they knew that 
America had to prevail.

551
01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:01,866
Their cause was this nation, 
and generations yet unborn.

552
01:25:04,433 --> 01:25:07,700
Why did they do it?

553
01:25:07,700 --> 01:25:12,700
They did it for AMERICA 
- they did it for us.

554
01:25:14,666 --> 01:25:17,766
Everything that has come since 
-our triumph over communism, 
our giant leaps of science

555
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:28,000
and discovery, our unrivaled 
progress toward equality and 
justice - ALL of it is possible

556
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,600
thanks to the blood and tears 
and courage and vision of the 
Americans who came before.

557
01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:46,300
Think of this Capitol -think 
of this very Chamber, where 
lawmakers before you voted

558
01:25:49,233 --> 01:25:54,233
to end slavery, to build the 
railroads and the highways, 
to defeat fascism, to secure

559
01:25:59,266 --> 01:26:04,266
Civil Rights, to face 
down an evil empire.

560
01:26:06,900 --> 01:26:11,900
Here tonight we have 
legislators from across 
this magnificent Republic.

561
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:21,200
You have come from the rocky 
shores of Maine and the volcanic 
peaks of Hawaii; from the

562
01:26:25,466 --> 01:26:30,466
snowy woods of Wisconsin and 
the red deserts of Arizona; 
from the green farms of Kentucky

563
01:26:33,833 --> 01:26:37,333
and the golden 
beaches of California.

564
01:26:37,333 --> 01:26:42,333
Together, we represent 
the most extraordinary 
nation in all of history.

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01:26:47,433 --> 01:26:51,933
What will we do 
with this moment?

566
01:26:51,933 --> 01:26:55,533
How will we be remembered?

567
01:26:55,533 --> 01:27:00,566
I ask the men and women of 
this Congress: Look at the 
opportunities before us!

568
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:09,800
Our most thrilling 
achievements are still ahead.

569
01:27:10,933 --> 01:27:15,866
Our most exciting 
journeys still await.

570
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:21,100
Our biggest victories 
are still to come.

571
01:27:21,966 --> 01:27:26,033
We have not yet BEGUN TO DREAM.

572
01:27:26,033 --> 01:27:31,033
We must choose whether we are 
defined by our differences - 
or whether we dare to transcend

573
01:27:34,700 --> 01:27:37,200
them.

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01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,366
We must choose whether we 
squander our inheritance 
- or whether we 
proudly declare that WE

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01:27:45,266 --> 01:27:50,133
ARE AMERICANS: 
We do the incredible.

576
01:27:50,133 --> 01:27:53,333
We defy the impossible.

577
01:27:53,333 --> 01:27:56,500
We conquer the unknown.

578
01:27:56,500 --> 01:28:01,500
This is the time to re-ignite 
the American Imagination.

579
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:09,000
This is the time to search for 
the tallest summit, and set 
our sights on the brightest

580
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,233
star.

581
01:28:14,233 --> 01:28:18,466
This is the time to rekindle 
the bonds of love and loyalty 
and memory that link us together

582
01:28:20,433 --> 01:28:25,433
as citizens, as 
neighbors, as patriots.

583
01:28:26,866 --> 01:28:31,300
This is our future -our fate 
- and our choice to make.

584
01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:36,900
I am asking you to 
CHOOSE GREATNESS.

585
01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:41,900
No matter the trials we face, no 
matter the challenges to come, 
we must go forward together.

586
01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:51,033
We must keep America 
FIRST in our hearts.

587
01:28:51,033 --> 01:28:55,966
We must keep Freedom 
alive in our souls.

588
01:28:55,966 --> 01:29:00,966
And we must always keep FAITH 
in America's Destiny -that 
One Nation, Under God, must

589
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:11,400
be the HOPE and the PROMISE 
and the LIGHT and the GLORY 
among all the nations of the

590
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,800
world!

591
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,066
Thank you.

592
01:29:19,066 --> 01:29:22,866
God Bless You, God Bless 
America, and Goodnight!

593
01:29:22,866 --> 01:29:24,466
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

594
01:29:24,466 --> 01:29:26,600
DONALD TRUMP: Thank you.

595
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:30,933
JUDY WOODRUFF: And that 
concludes President 
Trump's second State 
of the Union address.

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01:29:30,933 --> 01:29:35,200
Coming up in a few minutes will 
be the Democrats' response.

597
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:40,200
That will be delivered 
by Stacey Abrams, who 
lost last November to 
Republican Brian Kemp

598
01:29:41,366 --> 01:29:43,433
in a tight contest for 
governor of Georgia.

599
01:29:43,433 --> 01:29:48,133
You can see the president 
applauding, as he is applauded 
by members of Congress, as he

600
01:29:51,333 --> 01:29:56,333
is there in the chamber of 
the House of Representatives 
with all the members 
of the House and the

601
01:29:57,766 --> 01:30:01,800
Senate, his Cabinet, members 
of the Supreme Court.

602
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,200
This has been an 
hour-and-a-half-long speech.

603
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:10,200
The president touched on themes 
from unifying the two parties, 
pleading with Democrats to

604
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:17,400
work with him on his immigration 
and border security proposal, 
deploring abortion, loosening

605
01:30:22,133 --> 01:30:27,133
abortion rights measures, 
and on a number of 
foreign policy issues.

606
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,600
It crossed the spectrum.

607
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:35,100
And there was a good -- a 
good amount of this speech was 
devoted to celebrating heroes in

608
01:30:37,433 --> 01:30:42,433
the audience from World War II 
Holocaust survivors, to a young 
girl who has fought back brain

609
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,800
cancer.

610
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:53,100
I am joined here in the 
studio by Mark Shields, 
Amy Walter, Peter Wehner, 
Karine Jean-Pierre,

611
01:30:53,866 --> 01:30:56,366
and Chris Buskirk.

612
01:30:56,366 --> 01:30:59,066
And I want to -- Mark, I 
want to turn to you first.

613
01:30:59,066 --> 01:31:04,033
This is a president who spent 
so much of this speech pleading 
with Democrats to work with

614
01:31:05,966 --> 01:31:08,000
him across the aisle, pleading 
for unity, and yet we are 
coming off one of the most

615
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:11,533
divided periods 
in recent history.

616
01:31:11,533 --> 01:31:13,200
MARK SHIELDS: Yes.

617
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,400
Judy, it is fascinating to me.

618
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:20,400
As I listened to the speech, 
he devoted three pages of 
the speech to the economy.

619
01:31:22,366 --> 01:31:25,600
And he has got a marvelous 
economic story to tell, and 
he never talks about it.

620
01:31:26,733 --> 01:31:28,700
I mean, he very 
rarely brings it up.

621
01:31:28,700 --> 01:31:30,166
And he did tonight.

622
01:31:30,166 --> 01:31:34,166
And I think he is on strong 
ground when he does it.

623
01:31:34,166 --> 01:31:38,466
The rest of it, when he said, 
this is not - - he opened 
it up by saying, this is not

624
01:31:38,466 --> 01:31:43,466
a two-party -- it's not -- 
I don't want a Republican 
or Democrat response.

625
01:31:45,733 --> 01:31:50,700
Any time we use Democrat as 
an adjective, it sends up the 
hairs on the back of every

626
01:31:51,333 --> 01:31:52,600
Democrat's neck.

627
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,066
The word is Democratic.

628
01:31:54,066 --> 01:31:55,500
That's an adjective.

629
01:31:55,500 --> 01:31:57,566
Democrat is a dismissive, 
pejorative word.

630
01:31:57,566 --> 01:32:01,966
And, you know, so, if you 
are offering an olive branch, 
that isn't the way to begin.

631
01:32:03,066 --> 01:32:05,600
It was a long speech.

632
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,433
He delivers the speech 
better than he has in the 
past, but I just thought 
it was conspicuously

633
01:32:10,433 --> 01:32:11,433
unmemorable.

634
01:32:11,433 --> 01:32:12,633
JUDY WOODRUFF: Peter Wehner?

635
01:32:12,633 --> 01:32:14,333
PETER WEHNER: I will 
say a couple of things.

636
01:32:14,333 --> 01:32:19,333
Just from the craft of a 
speech, it was very bad.

637
01:32:20,033 --> 01:32:21,033
It was banal.

638
01:32:21,033 --> 01:32:22,033
It was undisciplined.

639
01:32:22,033 --> 01:32:24,666
It was windy.

640
01:32:24,666 --> 01:32:26,733
And it was tossed together.

641
01:32:26,733 --> 01:32:29,933
It didn't have the sense 
that there was somebody 
in control of the speech.

642
01:32:29,933 --> 01:32:34,833
You know, the teleprompter is 
not a friend of Donald Trump, 
and he proved that tonight.

643
01:32:34,833 --> 01:32:38,533
And this is a -- this is 
a man who is more or less 
allergic to eloquence.

644
01:32:38,533 --> 01:32:40,766
And he showed that 
again tonight.

645
01:32:40,766 --> 01:32:43,833
So, in that respect, I 
thought it was a bad speech.

646
01:32:43,833 --> 01:32:48,200
I thought it was -- contrary 
to what his aides said, it 
wasn't a speech of unity.

647
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,833
It was at its core a 
speech for the base.

648
01:32:51,833 --> 01:32:54,733
He gave -- devoted one 
sentence to education.

649
01:32:54,733 --> 01:32:59,700
And he must have gone on 15 
minutes on illegal immigration.

650
01:33:00,633 --> 01:33:02,533
So that was his target audience.

651
01:33:02,533 --> 01:33:06,333
The last thing on this 
immigration issue, that argument 
and his entire case is built

652
01:33:06,966 --> 01:33:08,500
on a fiction.

653
01:33:08,500 --> 01:33:13,033
And the fiction is that this 
is an unprecedented crisis.

654
01:33:13,033 --> 01:33:16,800
You can be in favor of border 
security, but illegal border 
apprehensions are at their

655
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:18,466
lowest point since 1971.

656
01:33:18,466 --> 01:33:23,200
And yet he speaks as if this is 
the great crisis facing America.

657
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:24,666
And it is not.

658
01:33:24,666 --> 01:33:25,633
JUDY WOODRUFF: Amy Walter, what 
did you make of the speech?

659
01:33:25,633 --> 01:33:27,633
AMY WALTER: Yes.

660
01:33:27,633 --> 01:33:31,633
This sounded a lot more to 
me like a 2020 convention 
speech at the RNC than a State

661
01:33:32,366 --> 01:33:33,866
of the Union speech.

662
01:33:33,866 --> 01:33:36,200
You made a point, Judy, saying 
he was pleading with Democrats.

663
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,233
I really didn't hear pleading.

664
01:33:38,233 --> 01:33:42,633
I heard him saying, as he has 
pretty much for the entirety 
of the time that Democrats

665
01:33:44,666 --> 01:33:49,033
have been in control of 
Congress, that, this is the 
way that I want it to be.

666
01:33:49,033 --> 01:33:51,100
Here are the problems 
on the border.

667
01:33:51,100 --> 01:33:54,666
He has made the same 
case over and over again 
on border security and 
what he wants for the

668
01:33:54,666 --> 01:33:57,233
wall.

669
01:33:57,233 --> 01:33:59,366
There wasn't a sense, we 
are going to compromise, 
we are going to find 
common ground, and really

670
01:33:59,366 --> 01:34:03,933
no answer to the question of, 
what happens in 10 days from 
now to the government workers

671
01:34:03,933 --> 01:34:08,933
who are sitting there 
wondering, if there is no 
agreement, what happens to us?

672
01:34:11,433 --> 01:34:14,333
JUDY WOODRUFF: I want to 
turn to our correspondent 
at the Capitol, Lisa 
Desjardins, and Yamiche

673
01:34:15,766 --> 01:34:18,366
Alcindor, who is 
at the White House.

674
01:34:18,366 --> 01:34:23,366
Lisa, the members had some 
sense of what the president was 
going to say tonight, but they

675
01:34:25,466 --> 01:34:28,133
didn't know -- they certainly 
didn't know all the detail.

676
01:34:28,133 --> 01:34:32,200
Are you able to a pick up 
from any of them in these last 
few minutes how they -- how

677
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:33,200
they read this?

678
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:35,200
LISA DESJARDINS: Yes.

679
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,400
I am looking off to my right 
here with the House chamber 
just about 100 feet away, Judy,

680
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,733
and I see members just 
starting to come out now.

681
01:34:39,733 --> 01:34:41,800
So we haven't had a chance 
to talk to them yet.

682
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,233
And I have been e-mailing 
with my sources.

683
01:34:44,233 --> 01:34:48,133
I think some things that they 
will be thinking about -- this 
is a tough speech in a way for

684
01:34:48,133 --> 01:34:51,500
members to react to, 
because I counted myself 
29 different topics.

685
01:34:51,500 --> 01:34:56,500
That's not just words 
he mentioned, but topics 
that he spoke about 
in multiple sentences.

686
01:34:57,233 --> 01:34:58,900
That's lot to react to.

687
01:34:58,900 --> 01:35:03,133
On the one hand, he did 
reach out in bipartisan 
ways on some issues.

688
01:35:03,133 --> 01:35:08,033
On the other hand, on the issue 
of border security, he tried 
to make that a class issue,

689
01:35:08,033 --> 01:35:13,033
and say that Democrats 
were against the working 
class in their stance 
for illegal immigrants.

690
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:17,966
I think that is something we 
are going to see Democrats 
react strongly to, as well as

691
01:35:17,966 --> 01:35:20,033
the abortion language 
that the president had.

692
01:35:20,033 --> 01:35:24,633
I would expect a statement 
from Virginia's governor, Ralph 
Northam, who was specifically

693
01:35:24,633 --> 01:35:26,933
singled out for, I think, direct 
attack from the president.

694
01:35:26,933 --> 01:35:28,733
But, Judy, I will let you know.

695
01:35:28,733 --> 01:35:30,866
We are waiting for the 
members to come out now.

696
01:35:30,866 --> 01:35:34,466
As you saw, the applause was 
scattered, sometimes bipartisan.

697
01:35:34,466 --> 01:35:38,900
Sometimes, we saw even 
the president's most 
adamant opponents stand 
up for his statements.

698
01:35:38,900 --> 01:35:41,133
Other times, it was 
clearly a partisan room.

699
01:35:41,133 --> 01:35:44,700
JUDY WOODRUFF: Very 
quickly to Yamiche Alcindor 
at the White House.

700
01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:49,300
We have got about 
three-and-a-half minutes 
before we hear from 
Stacey Abrams with the

701
01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:51,333
Democratic response.

702
01:35:51,333 --> 01:35:55,333
Yamiche, the president went into 
this knowing that he is working 
with a Democratic majority

703
01:35:56,833 --> 01:35:58,266
in the House.

704
01:35:58,266 --> 01:36:00,433
That had to enter into the 
calculus of what he had to say.

705
01:36:00,433 --> 01:36:03,666
YAMICHE ALCINDOR: Well, the 
White House said that this was 
supposed to be a speech about

706
01:36:03,666 --> 01:36:06,066
unity and a speech about 
bringing the country together.

707
01:36:06,066 --> 01:36:09,966
But the president made 
clear that he doesn't 
want a compromise and 
that he still wants

708
01:36:09,966 --> 01:36:13,666
a border to be built -- and 
a border wall to be built.

709
01:36:13,666 --> 01:36:16,200
The president also used 
some misleading language.

710
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:21,200
He talked about the fact that 
border walls in San Diego 
and El Paso led to a decrease

711
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:24,333
in crime and a decrease 
in illegal immigration.

712
01:36:24,333 --> 01:36:27,766
What we know for a fact, 
actually, is that there has 
been no new wall built and that

713
01:36:27,766 --> 01:36:32,766
there has been some fixes 
to existing fences that were 
passed by prior administrations.

714
01:36:34,733 --> 01:36:38,366
The president also was talking 
about the idea that border walls 
would somehow stop the flow

715
01:36:39,466 --> 01:36:41,100
of illegal drugs coming 
into the country.

716
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:44,233
What we know is that 
most drugs come through 
legal ports of entry.

717
01:36:44,233 --> 01:36:48,700
The president did, however, 
talk about the low unemployment 
rate for African-Americans.

718
01:36:48,700 --> 01:36:49,866
That is true.

719
01:36:49,866 --> 01:36:51,900
The employment 
rates are very low.

720
01:36:51,900 --> 01:36:55,466
He also talked about NATO 
and getting NATO to have 
more defense spending.

721
01:36:55,466 --> 01:36:57,566
That is true.

722
01:36:57,566 --> 01:37:00,766
The president pushed 
that body to spend more 
on defense spending and 
to have the countries

723
01:37:00,766 --> 01:37:03,433
around him spend more 
on defense spending.

724
01:37:03,433 --> 01:37:06,133
The president in some ways 
had a touching moment.

725
01:37:06,133 --> 01:37:10,366
He talked about a cancer 
survivor that he brought as a 
guest, and he also talked about

726
01:37:10,366 --> 01:37:12,600
Alice Johnson, who 
he freed from prison.

727
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,733
Those were moments where 
you could see unity.

728
01:37:14,733 --> 01:37:18,300
But I think the most telling 
moment, for me as a reporter 
watching this, was when the

729
01:37:18,300 --> 01:37:23,300
president said, the state of 
our union is strong, Mike Pence 
clapped, Republicans started

730
01:37:24,700 --> 01:37:27,133
chanting, "USA, USA," but 
Nancy Pelosi sat in her seat.

731
01:37:27,133 --> 01:37:29,533
And what you -- what that tells 
is that we can believe our eyes.

732
01:37:29,533 --> 01:37:31,666
The state of our 
union is divided.

733
01:37:31,666 --> 01:37:34,766
And we have a president who, 
as much as he wants to talk 
a about the border wall and

734
01:37:34,766 --> 01:37:39,766
border security, he also is 
someone who is still using 
misleading statements and still

735
01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:45,066
not telling the entire truth 
in a speech that was, as you 
noted, an hour-and-a-half long.

736
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:50,400
JUDY WOODRUFF: And to Robert 
Costa joining us now, Washington 
Post reporter Robert Costa,

737
01:37:51,766 --> 01:37:54,266
who is, of course, the moderator 
of PBS' "Washington Week."

738
01:37:54,266 --> 01:37:58,933
Robert, I saw you tweeting 
during the speech about 
the president going 
back to basics when

739
01:38:00,166 --> 01:38:02,233
it came to immigration 
and the border wall.

740
01:38:02,233 --> 01:38:06,333
ROBERT COSTA: A dark, defiant 
speech that has echoes of what 
he said, American carnage,

741
01:38:08,366 --> 01:38:12,366
at his inauguration, echoes of 
what he said in 2015 when he 
entered the presidential race.

742
01:38:14,233 --> 01:38:18,166
His message on illegal 
immigration was one of trying 
to say to the Republican Party,

743
01:38:18,166 --> 01:38:22,400
stick with me, taking 
this hard line, trying 
to build a border wall.

744
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:27,400
This is a president staring 
divided government in the face 
and saying, I will not change.

745
01:38:29,266 --> 01:38:33,133
JUDY WOODRUFF: And, Robert, 
it's -- there is a contradiction 
there, because the White

746
01:38:33,133 --> 01:38:38,100
House all day today and up -- 
leading up until this saying 
the president was going to be

747
01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:42,466
reaching out, trying to 
show that he was prepared 
to work with Democrats.

748
01:38:42,466 --> 01:38:47,466
ROBERT COSTA: That was the White 
House message, but then there 
was the actual message in this

749
01:38:47,933 --> 01:38:50,033
speech.

750
01:38:50,033 --> 01:38:53,733
It began with overtures to the 
Democrats, mentions of Buzz 
Aldrin, chants of "USA, USA,"

751
01:38:55,833 --> 01:38:59,333
then that turn toward 
immigration, the turn 
toward talk of mass 
illegal immigration at

752
01:39:00,133 --> 01:39:02,200
the border, of crime.

753
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:06,333
This is who President Trump was 
reaching out to, the Republican 
voter who he wants to stand

754
01:39:06,333 --> 01:39:10,933
by him through this turbulent 
year ahead, with Robert 
Mueller's investigation looming

755
01:39:10,933 --> 01:39:13,000
and so much else.

756
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:16,933
JUDY WOODRUFF: All right, 
Robert Costa with "Washington 
Week in Review" and also with

757
01:39:17,666 --> 01:39:19,166
The Washington Post.

758
01:39:19,166 --> 01:39:21,266
And now the Democratic response.

759
01:39:21,266 --> 01:39:24,566
It's being delivered tonight by 
Stacey Abrams, who lost a close 
race for governor in Georgia.

760
01:39:24,566 --> 01:39:25,933
STACEY ABRAMS (D), Former 
Georgia Gubernatorial 
Candidate: Good evening, 
my fellow Americans.

761
01:39:25,933 --> 01:39:27,966
And happy lunar new year.

762
01:39:27,966 --> 01:39:32,766
I'm Stacey Abrams, and I am 
honored to join the conversation 
about the state of our union.

763
01:39:34,733 --> 01:39:39,533
Growing up, my family went 
back and forth between lower 
middle class and working poor.

764
01:39:41,533 --> 01:39:44,633
Yet, even when they came home 
weary and bone-tired, my parents 
found a way to show us all who

765
01:39:45,966 --> 01:39:47,400
we could be.

766
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:50,733
My librarian mother taught 
us to love learning.

767
01:39:50,733 --> 01:39:55,733
My father, a shipyard 
worker, put in overtime 
and extra shifts; and they 
made sure we volunteered

768
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,033
to help others.

769
01:39:59,033 --> 01:40:02,866
Later, they both became 
United Methodist ministers, 
an expression of the 
faith that guides us.

770
01:40:04,700 --> 01:40:09,033
These were our family 
values - faith, service, 
education and responsibility.

771
01:40:10,966 --> 01:40:15,466
Now, we only had one 
car, so sometimes my 
dad had to hitchhike 
and walk long stretches

772
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,500
during the 30 mile trip 
home from the shipyards.

773
01:40:20,500 --> 01:40:22,733
One rainy night, 
Mom got worried.

774
01:40:22,733 --> 01:40:27,266
We piled in the car and went 
out looking for him - and 
eventually found Dad making his

775
01:40:27,266 --> 01:40:31,833
way along the road, soaked and 
shivering in his shirtsleeves.

776
01:40:31,833 --> 01:40:35,733
When he got in the 
car, Mom asked if he'd 
left his coat at work.

777
01:40:35,733 --> 01:40:39,133
He explained he'd given 
it to a homeless man 
he'd met on the highway.

778
01:40:39,133 --> 01:40:44,100
When we asked why he'd given 
away his only jacket, Dad 
turned to us and said, "I knew

779
01:40:46,366 --> 01:40:49,300
when I left that man, 
he'd still be alone.

780
01:40:49,300 --> 01:40:54,266
But I could give him 
my coat, because I knew 
you were coming for me."

781
01:40:56,333 --> 01:40:59,400
Our power and strength as 
Americans lives in our hard 
work and our belief in more.

782
01:41:01,400 --> 01:41:05,500
My family understood firsthand 
that while success is not 
guaranteed, we live in a nation

783
01:41:06,366 --> 01:41:08,666
where opportunity is possible.

784
01:41:08,666 --> 01:41:13,666
But we do not succeed 
alone - in these United 
States, when times are 
tough, we can persevere

785
01:41:15,533 --> 01:41:19,333
because our friends and 
neighbors will come for us.

786
01:41:19,333 --> 01:41:22,700
Our first responders 
will come for us.

787
01:41:22,700 --> 01:41:27,700
It is this mantra - this 
uncommon grace of community - 
that has driven me to become

788
01:41:29,633 --> 01:41:33,800
an attorney, a small business 
owner, a writer, and most 
recently, the Democratic nominee

789
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:37,166
for Governor of Georgia.

790
01:41:37,166 --> 01:41:41,800
My reason for running for 
governor was simple: I 
love our country and its 
promise of opportunity

791
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:47,833
for all, and I stand here 
tonight because I hold fast to 
my father's credo - together,

792
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:55,766
we are coming for America, 
for a better America.

793
01:41:57,733 --> 01:42:01,300
Just a few weeks ago, I joined 
volunteers to distribute 
meals to furloughed federal

794
01:42:01,300 --> 01:42:03,333
workers.

795
01:42:03,333 --> 01:42:07,433
They waited in line for a box 
of food and a sliver of hope 
since they hadn't received

796
01:42:08,166 --> 01:42:10,366
a paycheck in weeks.

797
01:42:10,366 --> 01:42:15,366
Making their livelihoods 
a pawn for political 
games is a disgrace.

798
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:21,166
The shutdown was a 
stunt engineered by the 
President of the United 
States, one that defied

799
01:42:23,166 --> 01:42:27,266
every tenet of fairness 
and abandoned not just our 
people - but our values.

800
01:42:29,233 --> 01:42:33,533
For seven years, I led the 
Democratic Party in the Georgia 
House of Representatives.

801
01:42:33,533 --> 01:42:37,866
I didn't always agree with 
the Republican Speaker or 
Governor, but I understood that

802
01:42:37,866 --> 01:42:42,866
our constituents didn't care 
about our political parties - 
they cared about their lives.

803
01:42:45,300 --> 01:42:48,000
So, when we had to negotiate 
criminal justice reform 
or transportation or 
foster care improvements,

804
01:42:49,533 --> 01:42:54,066
the leaders of our state didn't 
shut down - we came together.

805
01:42:54,066 --> 01:42:56,766
And we kept our word.

806
01:42:56,766 --> 01:42:59,966
It should be no different 
in our nation's capital.

807
01:42:59,966 --> 01:43:04,900
We may come from different sides 
of the political aisle; but, our 
joint commitment to the ideals

808
01:43:04,900 --> 01:43:08,866
of this nation 
cannot be negotiable.

809
01:43:08,866 --> 01:43:13,866
Our most urgent work is to 
realize Americans' dreams 
of today and tomorrow.

810
01:43:15,733 --> 01:43:19,533
To carve a path to 
independence and prosperity 
that can last a lifetime.

811
01:43:20,966 --> 01:43:24,833
Children deserve an excellent 
education from cradle to career.

812
01:43:24,833 --> 01:43:29,833
We owe them safe schools 
and the highest standards, 
regardless of zip code.

813
01:43:31,866 --> 01:43:35,033
Yet this White House responds 
timidly while first graders 
practice active shooter drills

814
01:43:36,700 --> 01:43:40,400
and the price of higher 
education grows ever steeper.

815
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:45,400
From now on, our leaders must 
be willing to tackle gun safety 
measures and the crippling

816
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,700
effect of educational loans; 
to support educators and invest 
what is necessary to unleash the

817
01:43:51,966 --> 01:43:55,533
power of America's 
greatest minds.

818
01:43:55,533 --> 01:44:00,566
In Georgia and around the 
country, people are striving for 
a middle class where a salary

819
01:44:01,433 --> 01:44:03,833
truly equals economic security.

820
01:44:03,833 --> 01:44:08,833
But instead, families' hopes 
are being crushed by Republican 
leadership that ignores real

821
01:44:09,933 --> 01:44:12,800
life or just doesn't 
understand it.

822
01:44:12,800 --> 01:44:17,800
Under the current 
administration, far too 
many hard-working Americans 
are falling behind,

823
01:44:19,866 --> 01:44:24,200
living paycheck to paycheck, 
most without labor unions to 
protect them from even worse

824
01:44:24,666 --> 01:44:26,266
harm.

825
01:44:26,266 --> 01:44:30,566
The Republican tax 
bill rigged the system 
against working people.

826
01:44:30,566 --> 01:44:35,566
Rather than bringing back jobs, 
plants are closing, layoffs 
are looming and wages struggle

827
01:44:36,766 --> 01:44:40,266
to keep pace with the 
actual cost of living.

828
01:44:40,266 --> 01:44:45,266
We owe more to the millions 
of everyday folks who 
keep our economy running: 
like truck drivers

829
01:44:47,266 --> 01:44:51,733
forced to buy their own rigs, 
farmers caught in a trade war, 
small business owners in search

830
01:44:53,300 --> 01:44:57,233
of capital, and domestic 
workers serving without 
labor protections.

831
01:44:59,166 --> 01:45:02,833
Women and men who could 
thrive if only they had the 
support and freedom to do so.

832
01:45:04,833 --> 01:45:08,600
We know bi-partisanship could 
craft a 21st century immigration 
plan, but this administration

833
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:14,800
chooses to cage children 
and tear families apart.

834
01:45:16,433 --> 01:45:19,800
Compassionate treatment 
at the border is not the 
same as open borders.

835
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,266
President Reagan 
understood this.

836
01:45:22,266 --> 01:45:25,000
President Obama understood this.

837
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:27,100
Americans understand this.

838
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:32,100
And Democrats stand ready 
to effectively secure 
our ports and borders.

839
01:45:34,100 --> 01:45:37,333
But we must all embrace that 
from agriculture to healthcare 
to entrepreneurship, America

840
01:45:38,700 --> 01:45:43,400
is made stronger by the presence 
of immigrants - not walls.

841
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:48,500
Rather than suing to dismantle 
the Affordable Care Act, as 
Republican Attorneys General

842
01:45:48,500 --> 01:45:53,200
have, our leaders must protect 
the progress we've made and 
commit to expanding health

843
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:57,333
care and lowering 
costs for everyone.

844
01:45:57,333 --> 01:46:01,266
My father has battled 
prostate cancer for years.

845
01:46:01,266 --> 01:46:06,266
To help cover the costs, I 
found myself sinking deeper into 
debt - because while you can

846
01:46:07,633 --> 01:46:10,333
defer some payments, you 
can't defer cancer treatment.

847
01:46:10,333 --> 01:46:15,333
In this great nation, Americans 
are skipping blood pressure 
pills, forced to choose between

848
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,000
buying medicine or paying rent.

849
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:24,000
Maternal mortality rates show 
that mothers, especially black 
mothers, risk death to give

850
01:46:25,566 --> 01:46:27,633
birth.

851
01:46:27,633 --> 01:46:31,566
And in 14 states, including 
my home state where a majority 
want it, our leaders refuse

852
01:46:33,500 --> 01:46:37,433
to expand Medicaid, which 
could save rural hospitals, 
economies, and lives.

853
01:46:38,866 --> 01:46:43,500
We can do so much more: Take 
action on climate change.

854
01:46:44,900 --> 01:46:48,000
Defend individual liberties 
with fair-minded judges.

855
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:53,000
But none of these ambitions are 
possible without the bedrock 
guarantee of our right to vote.

856
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:59,400
Let's be clear: voter 
suppression is real.

857
01:47:01,433 --> 01:47:04,200
From making it harder to 
register and stay on the rolls 
to moving and closing polling

858
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:09,200
places to rejecting lawful 
ballots, we can no longer ignore 
these threats to democracy.

859
01:47:12,066 --> 01:47:17,066
While I acknowledged the 
results of the 2018 election 
here in Georgia - I did not and

860
01:47:18,533 --> 01:47:22,566
we cannot accept efforts to 
undermine our right to vote.

861
01:47:24,933 --> 01:47:27,700
That's why I started a 
nonpartisan organization 
called Fair Fight to 
advocate for voting rights.

862
01:47:29,766 --> 01:47:34,766
This is the next battle for 
our democracy, one where all 
eligible citizens can have their

863
01:47:35,933 --> 01:47:38,800
say about the vision we 
want for our country.

864
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:43,800
We must reject the cynicism that 
says allowing every eligible 
vote to be cast and counted

865
01:47:44,533 --> 01:47:47,033
is a "power grab."

866
01:47:47,033 --> 01:47:52,033
Americans understand that these 
are the values our brave men 
and women in uniform and our

867
01:47:53,166 --> 01:47:56,033
veterans risk their 
lives to defend.

868
01:47:56,033 --> 01:48:01,033
The foundation of our moral 
leadership around the globe is 
free and fair elections, where

869
01:48:02,933 --> 01:48:07,433
voters pick their leaders 
- not where politicians 
pick their voters.

870
01:48:09,433 --> 01:48:13,000
In this time of division and 
crisis, we must come together 
and stand for, and with, one

871
01:48:14,933 --> 01:48:17,000
another.

872
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:21,466
America has stumbled time and 
again on its quest towards 
justice and equality; but with

873
01:48:21,466 --> 01:48:26,466
each generation, we have 
revisited our fundamental 
truths, and where we 
falter, we make amends.

874
01:48:29,866 --> 01:48:34,866
We fought Jim Crow with the 
Civil Rights Act and the Voting 
Rights Act, yet we continue

875
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:40,200
to confront racism from our 
past and in our present - which 
is why we must hold everyone

876
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:45,200
from the very highest offices 
to our own families accountable 
for racist words and deeds - and

877
01:48:46,933 --> 01:48:49,533
call racism what it is.

878
01:48:49,533 --> 01:48:51,566
Wrong.

879
01:48:51,566 --> 01:48:55,533
America achieved a measure of 
reproductive justice in Roe 
v. Wade, but we must never

880
01:48:55,533 --> 01:49:00,566
forget it is immoral to allow 
politicians to harm women and 
families to advance a political

881
01:49:02,666 --> 01:49:04,633
agenda.

882
01:49:04,633 --> 01:49:08,733
We affirmed marriage equality, 
and yet, the LGBTQ community 
remains under attack.

883
01:49:11,066 --> 01:49:15,600
So even as I am very 
disappointed by the 
President's approach to our 
problems - I still don't

884
01:49:16,500 --> 01:49:18,566
want him to fail.

885
01:49:18,566 --> 01:49:23,400
But we need him to tell the 
truth, and to respect his duties 
and the extraordinary diversity

886
01:49:25,900 --> 01:49:28,200
that defines America.

887
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:33,200
Our progress has always found 
refuge in the basic instinct 
of the American experiment

888
01:49:34,300 --> 01:49:37,733
- to do right by our people.

889
01:49:37,733 --> 01:49:42,600
And with a renewed commitment 
to social and economic justice, 
we will create a stronger

890
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:45,100
America, together.

891
01:49:45,100 --> 01:49:50,100
Because America wins by 
fighting for our shared 
values against all enemies: 
foreign and domestic.

892
01:49:52,333 --> 01:49:57,333
That is who we are - and 
when we do so, never wavering 
- the state of our union

893
01:49:59,533 --> 01:50:01,466
will always be strong.

894
01:50:01,466 --> 01:50:06,433
Thank you, and may God bless 
the United States of America.

895
01:50:06,433 --> 01:50:08,533
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

896
01:50:08,533 --> 01:50:11,733
JUDY WOODRUFF: And that was 
Stacey Abrams delivering the 
Democrats' response to the

897
01:50:11,733 --> 01:50:13,666
president's State of 
the Union address.

898
01:50:13,666 --> 01:50:17,133
Still with us at the "NewsHour" 
table, Mark Shields, Amy 
Walter, Peter Wehner, Karine

899
01:50:17,133 --> 01:50:20,800
Jean-Pierre, and Chris Buskirk.

900
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:25,333
Karine, remarkable in -- on 
a number of counts, I mean 
in contrast to the president.

901
01:50:25,333 --> 01:50:30,200
You have a woman of color 
delivering the Democratic 
response and you have 
someone who lost a race,

902
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:31,866
who doesn't hold 
office right now.

903
01:50:31,866 --> 01:50:33,333
I believe that is a first...

904
01:50:33,333 --> 01:50:35,266
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE, Democratic 
Strategist: It is a first.

905
01:50:35,266 --> 01:50:38,933
JUDY WOODRUFF: ... to have 
someone not holding office 
making the Democratic response.

906
01:50:39,666 --> 01:50:40,766
She went to her family.

907
01:50:40,766 --> 01:50:42,966
She talked about her father.

908
01:50:42,966 --> 01:50:47,200
And she laid it on the 
line in terms of what 
this administration has 
done in terms of health

909
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:49,866
care, immigration, 
and the shutdown.

910
01:50:49,866 --> 01:50:51,633
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: Yes, 
you said it perfectly, Judy.

911
01:50:51,633 --> 01:50:53,133
That is exactly right.

912
01:50:53,133 --> 01:50:55,666
She is the first black 
woman to give a response.

913
01:50:55,666 --> 01:50:57,533
Look, giving a response 
is very difficult.

914
01:50:57,533 --> 01:50:59,233
It is not easy to do.

915
01:50:59,233 --> 01:51:00,566
Many have failed.

916
01:51:00,566 --> 01:51:02,666
And I believe she 
nailed it tonight.

917
01:51:02,666 --> 01:51:07,666
It was a complete opposite 
of contrast to what we just 
heard from Donald Trump moments

918
01:51:09,633 --> 01:51:13,033
ago, a speech at a State of 
the Union that you would never 
hear being given by a president

919
01:51:13,033 --> 01:51:14,666
of the United States.

920
01:51:14,666 --> 01:51:15,933
Her speech was powerful.

921
01:51:15,933 --> 01:51:18,466
It was optimistic.

922
01:51:18,466 --> 01:51:22,100
It was talking about 
bringing people together, 
and it wasn't going down 
in the mud with Donald

923
01:51:22,100 --> 01:51:24,166
Trump, which is something 
that Democrats shouldn't do.

924
01:51:24,166 --> 01:51:27,933
It should be about a 
vision of how we are going 
to move America forward.

925
01:51:27,933 --> 01:51:29,966
And that's what 
we heard from her.

926
01:51:29,966 --> 01:51:33,533
And another thing that you 
just said, Judy, that I really 
agree with you on is, having

927
01:51:33,533 --> 01:51:38,533
a woman of color respond to 
Donald Trump, that alone is such 
a powerful statement, especially

928
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:43,566
from all the hateful rhetoric 
that we hear from this 
president and we have heard from

929
01:51:43,566 --> 01:51:45,566
this president these 
last two years.

930
01:51:45,566 --> 01:51:48,033
JUDY WOODRUFF: Chris 
Buskirk, what did you take 
away from Stacey Abrams?

931
01:51:48,033 --> 01:51:50,833
CHRIS BUSKIRK, 
AmericanGreatness.org: 
I thought two things, 
style and substance.

932
01:51:50,833 --> 01:51:54,466
I thought she was a 
really interesting choice 
to do the rebuttal.

933
01:51:54,466 --> 01:51:59,333
I was sort of expecting 
before she was announced 
maybe somebody like a 
Kamala Harris or something

934
01:51:59,333 --> 01:52:00,600
like that.

935
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,700
And then the political 
context struck me.

936
01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:06,233
And I thought, there are so 
many Democrats, Kamala Harris 
being one of them, running for

937
01:52:06,233 --> 01:52:09,633
president, they almost 
had to go with somebody 
who wasn't in office.

938
01:52:09,633 --> 01:52:12,266
And so there is this backdrop 
which I keep thinking about.

939
01:52:12,266 --> 01:52:16,933
How does this whole night 
play into 2020, both for the 
president, also for Democrats,

940
01:52:16,933 --> 01:52:19,733
who obviously will be 
seeking the presidency?

941
01:52:19,733 --> 01:52:22,066
And so that is sort of the 
style, the political part of it.

942
01:52:22,066 --> 01:52:25,233
On the substance, I thought 
it was -- you know, it 
was very up in the air.

943
01:52:25,233 --> 01:52:30,233
You know, it was very, a lot 
of -- a lot of sort of glib 
talk about, you know, the shirt

944
01:52:31,366 --> 01:52:32,300
off my back and 
this sort of thing.

945
01:52:32,300 --> 01:52:33,300
Great.

946
01:52:33,300 --> 01:52:35,300
I mean, those things sound good.

947
01:52:35,300 --> 01:52:38,033
But then you have to sort 
of come up with policies 
to put behind that.

948
01:52:38,033 --> 01:52:41,433
You know, there is the rhetoric, 
and then there is the action.

949
01:52:41,433 --> 01:52:46,433
And so I -- it just struck 
me what we have seen over the 
past 15, 20 years is that the

950
01:52:47,500 --> 01:52:48,666
Democratic -- Democratic Party.

951
01:52:48,666 --> 01:52:49,933
MARK SHIELDS: Thank you, Chris.

952
01:52:49,933 --> 01:52:51,033
CHRIS BUSKIRK: I 
got the adjective.

953
01:52:51,033 --> 01:52:52,900
(CROSSTALK)

954
01:52:52,900 --> 01:52:55,066
CHRIS BUSKIRK: The 
Democratic Party has become 
the party of the rich.

955
01:52:55,066 --> 01:52:58,533
Since 2008, the majority of 
voters with over $200,000 of 
income have gone Democratic.

956
01:53:00,333 --> 01:53:02,766
And that doesn't jibe 
well with the rhetoric.

957
01:53:02,766 --> 01:53:05,233
And that was -- I think 
there is this battle 
for the middle class.

958
01:53:05,233 --> 01:53:10,066
We saw it in Trump's 
speech, trying to explain 
what his vision is for 
the middle class and

959
01:53:12,033 --> 01:53:14,033
for the working class, and 
how that ties to things 
like immigration and trade.

960
01:53:14,033 --> 01:53:18,100
And then you saw Stacey Abrams 
trying to claim that same 
mantle for the Democratic Party.

961
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:19,733
And that's where the battle 
is going to be fought.

962
01:53:19,733 --> 01:53:21,800
JUDY WOODRUFF: Is that what 
you heard, Mark Shields?

963
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:25,633
MARK SHIELDS: Yes, I mean, 
Stacey Abrams didn't try 
to answer Donald Trump.

964
01:53:25,633 --> 01:53:30,500
She gave basically a Democratic 
speech, her Democratic speech, 
or sort of her signature

965
01:53:30,500 --> 01:53:32,000
speech.

966
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:36,166
And, you know, it 
is an impossible 
assignment for anybody.

967
01:53:36,166 --> 01:53:41,166
And if we wanted to list 
on one hand the memorable 
ones, I think, you 
know, we, unfortunately,

968
01:53:43,133 --> 01:53:46,866
remember the unfortunate, 
the Marco Rubio striving for 
the water, you know, whatever

969
01:53:49,966 --> 01:53:51,566
else.

970
01:53:51,566 --> 01:53:53,633
Jim Webb, I think, 
probably gave the only 
good one I can remember.

971
01:53:53,633 --> 01:53:56,566
That was 15 -- or 13 years ago.

972
01:53:56,566 --> 01:53:58,800
But she -- no, she was good.

973
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:00,500
And I think Chris is right.

974
01:54:00,500 --> 01:54:02,633
It was a way of avoiding 
a family argument.

975
01:54:02,633 --> 01:54:06,033
I mean, you choose her, 
she -- you stay out 
of the presidential.

976
01:54:06,033 --> 01:54:08,100
You are not showing favoritism.

977
01:54:08,100 --> 01:54:12,766
And, certainly, I mean, 
she emerged from that 
race in Georgia with 
a surprising strength,

978
01:54:15,933 --> 01:54:18,633
surprising -- I will 
just say one with thing.

979
01:54:18,633 --> 01:54:23,633
What Trump tried to do in 
his speech was, he tried to 
recreate the Reagan mystique.

980
01:54:25,633 --> 01:54:29,100
Ronald Reagan could talk about 
America and its values by 
talking about World War II and

981
01:54:30,500 --> 01:54:31,500
D-Day.

982
01:54:31,500 --> 01:54:33,533
He had a great gift for that.

983
01:54:33,533 --> 01:54:36,200
It doesn't ring true with 
Donald Trump, because he never 
has talked about it before.

984
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:41,200
That has never has been a 
part of his basic composition 
or just in his knowledge.

985
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:49,400
And I thought, you know, the 
idea that an American first, 
which is what his foreign

986
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:55,933
policy is, the irony 
is, he is praising World 
War II and America's 
involvement in it, when

987
01:54:58,033 --> 01:55:00,433
his predecessors in 
that movement, America 
first, did everything 
they could to stay out

988
01:55:00,433 --> 01:55:02,400
of World War II.

989
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:04,666
So, I mean, it is 
sort of an interesting 
bookend philosophically, 
if contradictory.

990
01:55:04,666 --> 01:55:09,466
JUDY WOODRUFF: It was striking 
that Stacey Abrams was the one 
who cited President Reagan.

991
01:55:09,466 --> 01:55:10,466
MARK SHIELDS: That's right.

992
01:55:10,466 --> 01:55:11,466
No, exactly.

993
01:55:11,466 --> 01:55:13,466
Yes.

994
01:55:13,466 --> 01:55:14,533
JUDY WOODRUFF: She talked about 
understanding that compassionate 
treatment at the border

995
01:55:14,533 --> 01:55:16,566
is not the same as open borders.

996
01:55:16,566 --> 01:55:18,533
MARK SHIELDS: Yes.

997
01:55:18,533 --> 01:55:22,833
JUDY WOODRUFF: Put Stacey 
Abrams in context, Peter Wehner, 
with what the president had

998
01:55:23,300 --> 01:55:25,266
to say.

999
01:55:25,266 --> 01:55:28,533
PETER WEHNER: Well, as everybody 
said, it is very, very hard 
to give a response to the

1000
01:55:28,533 --> 01:55:29,966
State of the Union.

1001
01:55:29,966 --> 01:55:31,700
I thought that she carried 
it off pretty well.

1002
01:55:31,700 --> 01:55:35,433
You have some people who 
have crashed and burned 
in these kind of things.

1003
01:55:35,433 --> 01:55:39,633
Nobody has ever given a response 
to a State of the Union that has 
been really deeply memorable.

1004
01:55:39,633 --> 01:55:41,766
And this one won't be either.

1005
01:55:41,766 --> 01:55:46,766
It was -- it was probably a 
good choice for the Democrats 
to make, for the reasons that

1006
01:55:47,366 --> 01:55:49,200
Chris said.

1007
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,266
I thought she was 
relitigating to some extent 
her loss in Georgia.

1008
01:55:51,266 --> 01:55:54,100
She spent a fair amount 
on the right to vote.

1009
01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:56,033
That is an important issue.

1010
01:55:56,033 --> 01:56:00,166
But when you have seven minutes 
to give a national response, 
I think I probably would

1011
01:56:00,166 --> 01:56:02,200
have advised going in 
a different direction.

1012
01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:06,333
It was culture, leaning 
toward culture, as opposed 
to economic growth.

1013
01:56:06,333 --> 01:56:10,466
And it wasn't a hugely uplifting 
vision, but it was fine.

1014
01:56:10,466 --> 01:56:13,866
I will say that, a week 
from now, both speeches, I 
think, will be forgotten.

1015
01:56:13,866 --> 01:56:15,366
JUDY WOODRUFF: What do you 
think the overriding message...

1016
01:56:15,366 --> 01:56:16,933
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: 
But the contrast...

1017
01:56:16,933 --> 01:56:18,100
(CROSSTALK)

1018
01:56:18,100 --> 01:56:19,366
AMY WALTER: The contrast 
will be important.

1019
01:56:19,366 --> 01:56:21,466
I think Chris made 
a good point, too.

1020
01:56:21,466 --> 01:56:25,266
It's -- you know, we get into 
2020, the battle is, who best 
represents the middle class?

1021
01:56:25,266 --> 01:56:29,533
The middle-class people, who 
do you think is looking out 
for them, the Republican or

1022
01:56:29,533 --> 01:56:31,566
the Democrat?

1023
01:56:31,566 --> 01:56:35,733
And also this fight that we are 
going to see in 2020 reflects 
what Mark was talking about,

1024
01:56:37,666 --> 01:56:41,166
the president, really a 
nostalgia for the way things 
were and celebrating things of

1025
01:56:43,500 --> 01:56:47,433
the past, vs. Stacey 
Abrams, what she represents, 
both her age, her gender, 
and her race, sort

1026
01:56:50,233 --> 01:56:54,466
of future-looking, we are 
going to have somebody 
that looks different, 
sounds different, comes

1027
01:56:54,466 --> 01:56:58,066
from so many different places 
to be in a leadership position.

1028
01:56:58,066 --> 01:57:00,166
So those will be at a contrast.

1029
01:57:00,166 --> 01:57:04,166
I think she also basically 
hit every note of the sort of 
grievances of Democrats for

1030
01:57:06,066 --> 01:57:10,733
the last two years, children 
in cages, you have to call 
racism out, the president needs

1031
01:57:12,733 --> 01:57:16,166
to tell the truth, being able 
to get every one of those -- 
this was sort of this trying

1032
01:57:16,166 --> 01:57:21,166
to be above, right, above 
politics, we are going to be 
the party that doesn't get down

1033
01:57:23,066 --> 01:57:26,300
in the muck, but then got a 
chance to just get some of 
those digs just right in there.

1034
01:57:26,300 --> 01:57:28,633
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: 
Yes, a little bit.

1035
01:57:28,633 --> 01:57:30,500
JUDY WOODRUFF: Yes.

1036
01:57:30,500 --> 01:57:34,433
Well, we are -- just a 
couple of minutes more 
before we take a short break.

1037
01:57:34,433 --> 01:57:39,433
But I just want to quickly 
say to Karine, I thought from 
-- cosmetically, I think they

1038
01:57:40,166 --> 01:57:41,633
needed more light there.

1039
01:57:41,633 --> 01:57:42,500
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: You 
said that at the beginning.

1040
01:57:42,500 --> 01:57:43,733
You said, it's so dark.

1041
01:57:43,733 --> 01:57:44,733
(LAUGHTER)

1042
01:57:44,733 --> 01:57:46,833
JUDY WOODRUFF: It was dark.

1043
01:57:46,833 --> 01:57:49,266
And I think, when you give the 
Democratic nuance, it is often 
in an unfortunate location.

1044
01:57:49,266 --> 01:57:50,433
It is someplace.

1045
01:57:50,433 --> 01:57:52,400
It's not the chamber 
of the House.

1046
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:53,933
And you can't see.

1047
01:57:53,933 --> 01:57:57,700
And you are focused on trying 
to see and hear sometimes.

1048
01:57:57,700 --> 01:57:59,066
And they do reach 
for water sometimes.

1049
01:57:59,066 --> 01:58:01,166
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: Yes.

1050
01:58:01,166 --> 01:58:03,966
JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, we 
are going to be back after 
the turn of the hour.

1051
01:58:03,966 --> 01:58:06,133
But we know that some 
stations will be cutting away.

1052
01:58:06,133 --> 01:58:10,400
We are coming up on 11:00 
Eastern, 8:00 p.m. Pacific time.

1053
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:15,033
And as our coverage of the State 
of the Union continues, we are 
going to give some PBS stations

1054
01:58:15,033 --> 01:58:17,400
the opportunity to resume 
their regular programming.

1055
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:21,600
But for those stations staying 
with us and for those of you 
watching online, don't go

1056
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:22,600
anywhere.

1057
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:24,633
We will be right back.

1058
01:58:24,633 --> 01:58:28,766
Mark Shields, Peter Wehner, 
Chris Buskirk, Amy Walter, 
and Karine Jean-Pierre, thank

1059
01:58:36,633 --> 01:58:41,633
you.

1060
01:58:45,766 --> 01:58:50,766
(BREAK)

1061
01:58:54,866 --> 01:58:59,866
JUDY WOODRUFF: And welcome 
back to special "PBS NewsHour" 
coverage of the State of the

1062
01:59:16,966 --> 01:59:19,233
Union address tonight and 
the Democratic response.

1063
01:59:19,233 --> 01:59:21,300
I'm Judy Woodruff.

1064
01:59:21,300 --> 01:59:24,333
And let's pick up the 
conversation where we left 
off, with Lisa Desjardins.

1065
01:59:24,333 --> 01:59:28,966
She is at the Capitol, where 
she has been following reaction 
to the president's speech.

1066
01:59:28,966 --> 01:59:31,733
And Yamiche Alcindor, who 
is at the White House.

1067
01:59:31,733 --> 01:59:35,766
Lisa, I am going to come to 
you, because you were looking 
for some members to try to get

1068
01:59:35,766 --> 01:59:36,766
their reaction.

1069
01:59:36,766 --> 01:59:37,933
Were you able to talk to any?

1070
01:59:37,933 --> 01:59:40,033
LISA DESJARDINS: Right.

1071
01:59:40,033 --> 01:59:42,366
I was able to speak to a wide 
group of members, everyone from 
the top Republican in the House,

1072
01:59:42,366 --> 01:59:44,533
Kevin McCarthy, to one of 
the freshman Democrats.

1073
01:59:44,533 --> 01:59:46,300
Your panel will be shocked.

1074
01:59:46,300 --> 01:59:49,333
There are differing views on 
how the president did tonight.

1075
01:59:49,333 --> 01:59:51,466
(LAUGHTER)

1076
01:59:51,466 --> 01:59:53,066
LISA DESJARDINS: Kevin McCarthy, 
someone who's seen as one of the 
closest allies of the president,

1077
01:59:53,066 --> 01:59:55,100
so I wanted to make 
sure and talk to him.

1078
01:59:55,100 --> 02:00:00,066
He said he thought the president 
did very well and that, in his 
words, surpassed Democratic

1079
02:00:00,666 --> 02:00:02,666
expectations.

1080
02:00:02,666 --> 02:00:06,200
He said he thought the president 
reached out to Democrats more 
than he or Democrats would

1081
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:08,766
have expected.

1082
02:00:08,766 --> 02:00:12,533
When I brought up the areas that 
Democrats felt were attacks, 
he said he felt they were

1083
02:00:13,133 --> 02:00:15,533
justified.

1084
02:00:15,533 --> 02:00:18,566
When you talk to Democrats, 
like Colin Allred 
of Texas, a freshman 
member, he said he wanted

1085
02:00:19,433 --> 02:00:21,466
to look for points of agreement.

1086
02:00:21,466 --> 02:00:25,633
When the president brought up 
specifically his tone and words 
on immigration, Colin Allred

1087
02:00:27,066 --> 02:00:29,400
being from a border state, 
he found that was a problem.

1088
02:00:29,400 --> 02:00:31,500
He said he went too far 
and it got too partisan.

1089
02:00:31,500 --> 02:00:35,566
And he also, interesting, 
Judy, said, as a freshman, he 
didn't expect to have such a

1090
02:00:35,566 --> 02:00:39,566
feeling when he walked into 
that chamber that he didn't 
just represent himself, but that

1091
02:00:39,566 --> 02:00:42,966
every time he stood up, 
he was standing up for 
his entire district.

1092
02:00:42,966 --> 02:00:45,133
He said he felt that 
heavily on his shoulders.

1093
02:00:45,133 --> 02:00:47,200
JUDY WOODRUFF: It's 
interesting, Lisa.

1094
02:00:47,200 --> 02:00:51,066
Mark Shields just handed me a 
note saying that he thought, 
for the most part, the freshman

1095
02:00:51,066 --> 02:00:56,033
members behaved themselves, that 
they didn't get out of control.

1096
02:00:57,966 --> 02:00:59,466
How did you read that?

1097
02:00:59,466 --> 02:01:02,000
I mean, I am sure you were 
watching, too, their reaction.

1098
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:03,933
They did stand.

1099
02:01:03,933 --> 02:01:08,166
I mean, the women were standing, 
freshmen and others, when 
the president talked about

1100
02:01:09,466 --> 02:01:10,666
more women being 
employed today than ever.

1101
02:01:10,666 --> 02:01:12,633
LISA DESJARDINS: Right.

1102
02:01:12,633 --> 02:01:15,133
That was one of the more 
delightful and surprising 
moments of the night, I think.

1103
02:01:15,133 --> 02:01:20,133
But Mark Shields is on 
to something, not for 
the first time . That 
was intentional, Judy.

1104
02:01:21,266 --> 02:01:23,733
This freshman class has 
been very strategic.

1105
02:01:23,733 --> 02:01:25,800
They are aggressive 
and assertive.

1106
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:30,800
They are activists mostly, but 
they are being very careful 
about when they choose their

1107
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:32,300
moments.

1108
02:01:32,300 --> 02:01:35,100
And they are -- they want to be 
seen as dignified and serious.

1109
02:01:35,100 --> 02:01:40,066
They do not want to be seen 
as a class that is going to 
knee-jerk react to everything.

1110
02:01:40,066 --> 02:01:42,300
And I think you saw that 
in the speech tonight.

1111
02:01:42,300 --> 02:01:47,300
I think we will see in their 
Twitter feeds probably more 
of their emotional reaction

1112
02:01:48,766 --> 02:01:51,200
that they chose not to display 
as much on the House floor.

1113
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:55,100
JUDY WOODRUFF: I know that 
Speaker Pelosi said earlier 
today, when I was one of a group

1114
02:01:55,100 --> 02:01:59,966
of reporters talking to her, 
she said that she didn't 
think she would need to signal

1115
02:01:59,966 --> 02:02:04,933
to her members to 
-- quote, unquote -- 
"behave or stay calm."

1116
02:02:07,466 --> 02:02:10,200
But there was a point 
during tonight's State of 
the Union when it looked 
like she was gesturing.

1117
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:12,233
I am not sure.

1118
02:02:12,233 --> 02:02:14,233
I don't know whether 
you saw that.

1119
02:02:14,233 --> 02:02:17,566
LISA DESJARDINS: No, I did see, 
but with the Republicans -- 
we are thinking of different

1120
02:02:17,566 --> 02:02:19,666
moments, perhaps.

1121
02:02:19,666 --> 02:02:21,500
I saw her gesturing toward 
the Republican side when the 
president said something to

1122
02:02:21,500 --> 02:02:22,500
the effect of...

1123
02:02:22,500 --> 02:02:24,533
JUDY WOODRUFF: Ah.

1124
02:02:24,533 --> 02:02:25,966
LISA DESJARDINS: ... if I had 
not -- if I wasn't president, 
I think we would be in a

1125
02:02:25,966 --> 02:02:27,633
major war with North Korea.

1126
02:02:27,633 --> 02:02:28,833
JUDY WOODRUFF: Ah.

1127
02:02:28,833 --> 02:02:30,933
LISA DESJARDINS: And 
there was some applause.

1128
02:02:30,933 --> 02:02:34,633
I saw Speaker Pelosi look over 
askance and try to see who was 
clapping at that line about

1129
02:02:35,933 --> 02:02:37,266
major war.

1130
02:02:37,266 --> 02:02:39,400
I missed any other 
moment like that.

1131
02:02:39,400 --> 02:02:40,900
So, I don't know if 
that is the same one.

1132
02:02:40,900 --> 02:02:42,366
(CROSSTALK)

1133
02:02:42,366 --> 02:02:43,800
JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, that 
line certainly got a reaction.

1134
02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:46,733
I want to turn to Yamiche 
at the White House.

1135
02:02:46,733 --> 02:02:51,733
Yamiche, they had to take into 
consideration that this is a 
very different Congress the

1136
02:02:53,666 --> 02:02:55,866
president was talking to 
tonight than the one he has 
been dealing with for the last

1137
02:02:55,866 --> 02:02:57,566
two years.

1138
02:02:57,566 --> 02:02:59,966
YAMICHE ALCINDOR: I 
think the president took 
that into consideration.

1139
02:02:59,966 --> 02:03:03,900
And that is why you saw the 
president do that shout-out and 
say there are a record number

1140
02:03:03,900 --> 02:03:05,966
of women serving in Congress.

1141
02:03:05,966 --> 02:03:09,133
He didn't talk about the fact 
that the record number of women 
are serving on the Democratic

1142
02:03:09,133 --> 02:03:14,133
side, and wearing all white 
to make sure that that 
is visually very shown.

1143
02:03:16,633 --> 02:03:19,100
But the president here 
was in some ways still 
having -- trying to have 
this tone of unification,

1144
02:03:19,100 --> 02:03:21,533
while I still think 
not compromising.

1145
02:03:21,533 --> 02:03:23,966
The president wanted to make it 
clear that he wants his wall.

1146
02:03:23,966 --> 02:03:25,566
He said, walls save lives.

1147
02:03:25,566 --> 02:03:27,266
But he did talk 
about health care.

1148
02:03:27,266 --> 02:03:31,133
And he talked about it 
in a long way, much like 
he did with immigration.

1149
02:03:31,133 --> 02:03:35,933
He spent some time really 
talking about the cost 
of health care and how 
he wanted to eliminate

1150
02:03:35,933 --> 02:03:37,600
the transmission of HIV/AIDS.

1151
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:40,766
I also want to point out 
something that he said 
about cancer research.

1152
02:03:40,766 --> 02:03:45,533
He said: "My budget will ask 
Congress for $500 million 
over the next 10 years to fund

1153
02:03:45,533 --> 02:03:47,633
this critical 
lifesaving research."

1154
02:03:47,633 --> 02:03:50,433
Now, it is important to point 
out that, while the president 
-- that is going to be about

1155
02:03:50,433 --> 02:03:55,233
$50 million a year if it is 
spread out evenly over 10 years 
-- that is a fraction of the

1156
02:03:55,233 --> 02:03:56,233
total budget.

1157
02:03:56,233 --> 02:03:58,333
It is about 0.001 percent.

1158
02:03:58,333 --> 02:04:02,933
And in -- now, in President 
Obama's last State of the Union, 
he talked about cancer research

1159
02:04:02,933 --> 02:04:04,866
funds as well.

1160
02:04:04,866 --> 02:04:08,766
By 2023, the budget estimate 
for the program that was 
started by President Obama would

1161
02:04:08,766 --> 02:04:10,800
be $1.8 billion.

1162
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:15,500
So, what you have there is just 
really a comparison of President 
Trump and President Obama.

1163
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:19,200
But I think there are 
a lot of Democrats who 
stood up and clapped when 
they heard the president

1164
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:21,233
talk about health care.

1165
02:04:21,233 --> 02:04:24,100
But, of course, they also were 
I think very - - were very 
dismayed when he pointed out

1166
02:04:24,100 --> 02:04:29,100
the idea that immigrants 
and people -- and people 
that come to this country 
and are undocumented

1167
02:04:30,533 --> 02:04:32,833
are somehow adding to the 
criminalization of America.

1168
02:04:32,833 --> 02:04:37,800
JUDY WOODRUFF: It is so 
important to get this 
context and to get these 
comparative numbers,

1169
02:04:37,800 --> 02:04:38,966
Yamiche.

1170
02:04:38,966 --> 02:04:40,966
I mean, I certainly 
appreciate it.

1171
02:04:40,966 --> 02:04:45,466
I know our audience appreciates 
the fact that you and our 
crack team of researchers here

1172
02:04:47,400 --> 02:04:49,766
have been looking at this, 
looking at what the president 
is saying, trying to understand

1173
02:04:49,766 --> 02:04:54,766
what the context is, because 
it may be that a number is 
accurate, but when you put it

1174
02:04:56,766 --> 02:05:00,133
in context and you compare it 
with what has been done in the 
past, it can take on a different

1175
02:05:01,100 --> 02:05:03,200
- - a different cast.

1176
02:05:03,200 --> 02:05:07,233
I want to also bring in 
Robert Costa, moderator 
of PBS' "Washington 
Week" and, of course,

1177
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:10,466
a reporter at The 
Washington Post.

1178
02:05:10,466 --> 02:05:15,033
Robert, you had been telling 
us earlier in the hour that 
this is President Trump going

1179
02:05:17,300 --> 02:05:21,266
back to who he is and what 
he fundamentally believes.

1180
02:05:21,266 --> 02:05:26,266
But there was this reaching 
out to Democrats tonight to 
say, you have a choice, you can

1181
02:05:27,766 --> 02:05:29,533
work with me or not.

1182
02:05:29,533 --> 02:05:32,366
You know, it is a chance 
to make a difference.

1183
02:05:32,366 --> 02:05:34,433
Why do you think they did that?

1184
02:05:34,433 --> 02:05:38,200
ROBERT COSTA: The president 
believes that he can try to 
maybe work with Democrats down

1185
02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:42,933
the line, but more important to 
him, based on my conversations 
with White House officials,

1186
02:05:42,933 --> 02:05:47,933
is solidifying that 
Republican base, reassuring 
them on immigration, that 
that signature campaign

1187
02:05:49,933 --> 02:05:54,200
promise, the border wall, in 
some way is going to be pursued.

1188
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:56,266
That is the president's aim.

1189
02:05:56,266 --> 02:05:59,666
He believes that base 
will sustain him through 
all the political winds 
that are likely to

1190
02:05:59,666 --> 02:06:01,800
come this year.

1191
02:06:01,800 --> 02:06:05,033
Is there a chance the Democrats 
could work with the president 
on something like prescription

1192
02:06:05,033 --> 02:06:06,966
drugs or infrastructure?

1193
02:06:06,966 --> 02:06:08,900
Sure.

1194
02:06:08,900 --> 02:06:11,700
But this is a White House, 
from acting Chief of Staff 
Mulvaney, to the Cabinet, to the

1195
02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:16,666
president himself, who are not 
pursuing those things, those 
bipartisan aims in the same

1196
02:06:16,666 --> 02:06:18,733
aggressive way.

1197
02:06:18,733 --> 02:06:22,166
JUDY WOODRUFF: But those 
numbers, we know, the 
base numbers, don't 
add up to 51 percent.

1198
02:06:22,166 --> 02:06:24,466
So that has to be a part 
of the calculus as well.

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02:06:24,466 --> 02:06:26,600
ROBERT COSTA: Well, 
that is exactly right.

1200
02:06:26,600 --> 02:06:31,266
But this is a White 
House right now that is 
looking more at Governor 
Larry Hogan of Maryland,

1201
02:06:32,533 --> 02:06:34,500
looking at former Massachusetts 
Governor Bill Weld.

1202
02:06:34,500 --> 02:06:39,433
And they see a possible primary 
challenge on the horizon, 
if those Republican numbers

1203
02:06:40,300 --> 02:06:42,033
in various polls start to slip.

1204
02:06:42,033 --> 02:06:44,066
And they want to prevent 
that from happening.

1205
02:06:44,066 --> 02:06:48,266
The White House has urged its 
political allies to take action 
at the party level to try to

1206
02:06:48,266 --> 02:06:50,033
stave off a primary challenge.

1207
02:06:50,033 --> 02:06:51,600
You are right.

1208
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,833
In the general election, 
his numbers are weak 
among every poll.

1209
02:06:54,833 --> 02:06:58,766
At the same time, this is 
a White House that says, we 
have to stop a primary first.

1210
02:06:58,766 --> 02:07:00,300
JUDY WOODRUFF: Yes, fascinating.

1211
02:07:00,300 --> 02:07:02,400
We are all thinking ahead.

1212
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:06,366
We're trying not to think 
ahead to 2020, but we are 
thinking ahead to 2020.

1213
02:07:06,366 --> 02:07:08,933
But you are absolutely right, 
Robert, in that the White 
House has been to be focused on

1214
02:07:08,933 --> 02:07:10,966
the next contest.

1215
02:07:10,966 --> 02:07:14,500
And if there is a primary 
challenge, that's what they 
have to deal with first.

1216
02:07:14,500 --> 02:07:16,966
Robert Costa, thank 
you very much.

1217
02:07:16,966 --> 02:07:21,966
Still with us at the table, the 
"NewsHour" table, Mark Shields, 
Amy Walter, Peter Wehner,

1218
02:07:23,133 --> 02:07:25,100
Karine Jean-Pierre, 
and Chris Buskirk.

1219
02:07:25,100 --> 02:07:29,333
I want to take you back 
to one of the president's 
comments tonight.

1220
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,466
We have been talking 
about rejecting the 
politics of revenge.

1221
02:07:33,466 --> 02:07:35,300
But this is -- I 
believe this is right.

1222
02:07:35,300 --> 02:07:38,200
Am I hearing you correctly, 
those of you who are 
talking in my ear?

1223
02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:40,200
(LAUGHTER)

1224
02:07:40,200 --> 02:07:44,200
JUDY WOODRUFF: The chunk of 
sound that we want to play, 
this is when the president spoke

1225
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:50,100
about the constitutional 
amendment that gave 
women the right to vote.

1226
02:07:50,100 --> 02:07:52,200
Let's listen.

1227
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:56,100
DONALD TRUMP: And exactly one 
century after Congress passed 
the constitutional amendment

1228
02:07:58,533 --> 02:08:03,533
giving women the right to 
vote, we also have more women 
serving in Congress than at any

1229
02:08:07,333 --> 02:08:09,933
time before.

1230
02:08:09,933 --> 02:08:14,933
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)

1231
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:22,000
JUDY WOODRUFF: Dressed in white, 
in honor of women's suffrage.

1232
02:08:24,366 --> 02:08:28,800
Mark Shields, that 
was a striking moment, 
because the president 
is celebrating the fact

1233
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:32,366
that women, more women are 
working than ever before, more 
women elected to Congress.

1234
02:08:32,366 --> 02:08:34,933
Of course, most of those 
women are Democrats.

1235
02:08:34,933 --> 02:08:37,500
Republicans lost numbers 
of women in the House 
of Representatives.

1236
02:08:37,500 --> 02:08:39,566
MARK SHIELDS: That's right.

1237
02:08:39,566 --> 02:08:43,600
We are now talking about 
80 percent of the women 
in Congress are Democrats.

1238
02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:48,766
The 35 elected in 2018, 
all but one was a Democrat.

1239
02:08:50,766 --> 02:08:55,100
And I think, even beyond that, 
as you look at the diversity, I 
mean, the religious diversity,

1240
02:08:57,500 --> 02:09:02,500
all the Hindus, the 
Muslims, the Buddhists, 
I mean, are Democrats.

1241
02:09:03,900 --> 02:09:06,066
I mean, all but two of the 
Jewish members are Democrats.

1242
02:09:06,066 --> 02:09:10,966
I mean, it is just -- it is a 
-- it's fascinating that the 
Republicans have become narrow.

1243
02:09:10,966 --> 02:09:13,600
And I will just say 
this about Donald Trump.

1244
02:09:13,600 --> 02:09:18,600
He is -- his strategy, as Robert 
Costa was talking about it, is 
totally alien and contradictory

1245
02:09:20,566 --> 02:09:24,766
to that of George W. Bush, 
who added 11.5 million 
votes from 2000 to 2004.

1246
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:28,800
It's totally alien to that of 
Ronald Reagan, who went from...

1247
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:30,866
JUDY WOODRUFF: You mean 
relying on the base, 
trying to rely on the base.

1248
02:09:30,866 --> 02:09:32,866
MARK SHIELDS: 
Relying on the base.

1249
02:09:32,866 --> 02:09:35,433
The point is to enlarge it, 
Bill Clinton -- or anybody 
who won a second term.

1250
02:09:35,433 --> 02:09:40,433
I mean, it is just that tending 
the base and holding the base 
and courting the base and

1251
02:09:42,333 --> 02:09:46,800
wooing the base and making 
sure -- I mean, I just think 
it is a very finite and limited

1252
02:09:47,533 --> 02:09:49,633
political strategy.

1253
02:09:49,633 --> 02:09:51,266
JUDY WOODRUFF: But we heard 
Robert say -- Peter Wehner, we 
heard Robert say what they are

1254
02:09:51,266 --> 02:09:53,466
focused on right now is a 
potential Republican challenge.

1255
02:09:53,466 --> 02:09:54,966
PETER WEHNER: I 
think that's right.

1256
02:09:54,966 --> 02:09:56,933
And they're also, frankly, 
focused on impeachment.

1257
02:09:56,933 --> 02:09:58,600
They have to.

1258
02:09:58,600 --> 02:10:03,033
With the specter of 
impeachment, he has got 
to keep his base there.

1259
02:10:03,033 --> 02:10:08,033
I want to say one thing Mark 
said with the contrast with 
Reagan, which is true in many

1260
02:10:08,500 --> 02:10:10,533
ways.

1261
02:10:10,533 --> 02:10:12,633
One of the things I was struck 
by -- and I wonder if people 
really fully realize -- is

1262
02:10:12,633 --> 02:10:17,466
the degree to which Donald Trump 
has transformed the Republican 
Party on a whole set of issues.

1263
02:10:19,366 --> 02:10:23,700
There was not a word about 
spending or deficits or 
limited government or liberty.

1264
02:10:26,066 --> 02:10:29,766
Illegal immigration, 
Ronald Reagan gave 
amnesty to three million.

1265
02:10:29,766 --> 02:10:33,066
And Trump devoted so much 
of his attention there.

1266
02:10:33,066 --> 02:10:36,266
Protectionism, Ronald 
Reagan was a free trader.

1267
02:10:36,266 --> 02:10:38,233
Donald Trump is a protectionist.

1268
02:10:38,233 --> 02:10:40,266
He was critical of NATO.

1269
02:10:40,266 --> 02:10:43,333
He had more critical words 
to say about NATO than 
he did with North Korea.

1270
02:10:43,333 --> 02:10:47,866
And one of the things that a 
lot of us during the primary 
season said, that Donald Trump

1271
02:10:47,866 --> 02:10:52,000
could do to the Republican 
Party that Hillary Clinton never 
could do, is to transform it,

1272
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:54,166
because he could 
do it from within.

1273
02:10:54,166 --> 02:10:58,933
And I do think, if people went 
back and read the speeches of 
Reagan or Bush, and contrasted

1274
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:05,100
that with Trump, they would see 
a very dramatic change in the 
tone and policy and the heart

1275
02:11:07,033 --> 02:11:09,566
and the spirit of the GOP.

1276
02:11:09,566 --> 02:11:12,966
JUDY WOODRUFF: Chris 
Buskirk, how do you read 
that contrast between 
this president and another

1277
02:11:12,966 --> 02:11:15,000
Republican president, 
Ronald Reagan?

1278
02:11:15,000 --> 02:11:17,533
CHRIS BUSKIRK: You know, I am 
glad you asked me that question, 
because when I was listening

1279
02:11:17,533 --> 02:11:18,933
to Stacey Abrams.

1280
02:11:18,933 --> 02:11:21,166
I was -- and her talking 
about Ronald Reagan.

1281
02:11:21,166 --> 02:11:25,800
The 1986 immigration bill, 
Ronald Reagan said afterwards 
that he got rolled, and that it

1282
02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:28,500
was a huge mistake 
that he signed it.

1283
02:11:28,500 --> 02:11:31,700
So that is a bit of 
revisionist history there.

1284
02:11:31,700 --> 02:11:33,766
He did it.

1285
02:11:33,766 --> 02:11:37,600
He regretted it later, and he 
thought that it was something 
that he could have done better.

1286
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:42,600
I think that -- I think that 
Reagan and Trump actually stand 
in a long line of intellectual

1287
02:11:44,366 --> 02:11:47,533
continuity within the 
American Republican Party.

1288
02:11:47,533 --> 02:11:52,533
Reagan's policies were 
appropriate and salutary 
for the country in the 
1970s, '80s, into the

1289
02:11:54,133 --> 02:11:56,233
'90s.

1290
02:11:56,233 --> 02:12:00,166
But our biggest problem right 
now is not the taxes, marginal 
taxes need to go down, or

1291
02:12:01,333 --> 02:12:03,733
that we need to defeat 
international communism.

1292
02:12:03,733 --> 02:12:06,900
It is about -- statesmanship 
is about applying the 
same principles to 
different circumstances.

1293
02:12:06,900 --> 02:12:11,333
And that's why I think that 
Donald Trump's stance on things 
like immigration or on trade,

1294
02:12:11,333 --> 02:12:16,333
on China and so on, or 
what he calls principled 
realism in foreign 
policy, I think those are

1295
02:12:18,100 --> 02:12:20,933
consistent with the 
Republican Party's principles 
for a very long time.

1296
02:12:20,933 --> 02:12:24,166
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, Pete's 
point, that the fact he didn't 
talk about the debt, didn't

1297
02:12:24,166 --> 02:12:25,566
talk about spending 
is, I mean...

1298
02:12:25,566 --> 02:12:27,266
(CROSSTALK)

1299
02:12:27,266 --> 02:12:29,200
CHRIS BUSKIRK: This is 
-- I will tell you, this 
is the strangest thing.

1300
02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:31,966
There is a bipartisan consensus 
right now to totally ignore 
the debt, until it blows

1301
02:12:31,966 --> 02:12:33,600
up in somebody's face.

1302
02:12:33,600 --> 02:12:35,533
And then I think the 
plan is just blame it on 
who is in office then.

1303
02:12:35,533 --> 02:12:37,033
And it is a huge mistake.

1304
02:12:37,033 --> 02:12:40,433
JUDY WOODRUFF: Amy Walter, 
do you want to pursue that?

1305
02:12:40,433 --> 02:12:41,866
(LAUGHTER)

1306
02:12:41,866 --> 02:12:44,466
AMY WALTER: On what 
happens when we get there?

1307
02:12:44,466 --> 02:12:49,100
Listen, the two parties 
are now really reflective 
of their constituencies 
and of who their bases

1308
02:12:51,133 --> 02:12:53,166
are.

1309
02:12:53,166 --> 02:12:57,133
And we got a very strong example 
of that in Virginia this week, 
and the blowback to Governor

1310
02:12:58,866 --> 02:13:01,966
Northam and the 
blackface incident.

1311
02:13:01,966 --> 02:13:06,966
And now, of course, we have his 
-- the lieutenant governor of 
the state with sexual assault

1312
02:13:09,033 --> 02:13:11,100
allegations.

1313
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:15,433
It is a Democratic Party now 
that is reliant on voters of 
color and women to deliver the

1314
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:18,133
votes.

1315
02:13:18,133 --> 02:13:22,200
The Republican Party is 
reliant on older white voters 
to deliver their votes.

1316
02:13:23,600 --> 02:13:26,800
And so they are reflecting 
their constituencies.

1317
02:13:26,800 --> 02:13:31,333
And the constituency that made 
up the Republican Party in the 
1980s, many of those folks now

1318
02:13:31,333 --> 02:13:33,766
are Democrats.

1319
02:13:33,766 --> 02:13:37,666
We saw that transition 
and the realignment 
in the 2018 election.

1320
02:13:37,666 --> 02:13:42,066
Those suburban voters who had 
been voting on fiscal issues 
for all those years and stuck

1321
02:13:42,066 --> 02:13:47,066
by Republicans, saying, I 
am fiscally conservative 
and I want government to 
spend my money smartly,

1322
02:13:49,100 --> 02:13:52,700
maybe they were a little 
more socially moderate, 
they definitely were 
not happy in 2016 with

1323
02:13:54,500 --> 02:13:56,466
their choices between 
Trump and Clinton.

1324
02:13:56,466 --> 02:13:59,266
Many of them didn't 
vote for Donald Trump.

1325
02:13:59,266 --> 02:14:04,266
And two years later, this is 
a constituency that, I would 
argue many of them a Reagan

1326
02:14:05,900 --> 02:14:09,333
constituency, that has 
absolutely abandoned 
the Republican Party.

1327
02:14:09,333 --> 02:14:14,333
And now it is small-town rural 
America, many of which had 
been the Democrats' base, that

1328
02:14:16,133 --> 02:14:18,733
make up what the 
Democratic Party is.

1329
02:14:18,733 --> 02:14:23,200
JUDY WOODRUFF: So with -- 
Karine Jean-Pierre, with 
the two parties headed 
in opposite directions,

1330
02:14:25,200 --> 02:14:28,733
is it smart for the president 
to do as he did tonight, to say, 
you know, to say to Democrats,

1331
02:14:30,733 --> 02:14:33,133
let's work together on a few 
things, but still to hold -- 
you know, to stick to his guns

1332
02:14:33,133 --> 02:14:38,133
on the things that he 
thinks he needs to -- 
you know, to not move on?

1333
02:14:40,100 --> 02:14:42,066
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: There 
was no surprises in the 
president's speech tonight.

1334
02:14:42,066 --> 02:14:46,633
He basically spoke to his base, 
which is a small and shrinking 
base, which is something

1335
02:14:47,500 --> 02:14:49,600
that he does all the time.

1336
02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:53,333
To me, there was no difference 
from what he did at the State 
of the Union address tonight

1337
02:14:53,333 --> 02:14:56,033
with what he does 
in front of a rally.

1338
02:14:56,033 --> 02:15:01,033
It was -- he gave maybe two 
minutes or so of bipartisanship, 
but everything else was

1339
02:15:03,033 --> 02:15:06,400
a doubling down on divisiveness, 
hateful rhetoric, and this is 
just the way Donald Trump is.

1340
02:15:08,466 --> 02:15:12,800
He believes that, in order -- 
if he is looking towards 2020, 
which it seems to be, that he

1341
02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:17,366
needs to double out and continue 
to shore up his small base.

1342
02:15:17,366 --> 02:15:19,466
He has never been a 
president for everyone.

1343
02:15:19,466 --> 02:15:24,300
He has never -- from the moment 
that he stepped in -- into the 
office, the day of inauguration,

1344
02:15:25,700 --> 02:15:27,800
it has been about carnage, 
it's been about divisiveness.

1345
02:15:27,800 --> 02:15:31,700
So, there's -- so there's no 
surprises at all, and this 
is what he is doing, but it

1346
02:15:32,866 --> 02:15:34,866
is going to hurt the 
Republican Party.

1347
02:15:34,866 --> 02:15:38,400
We saw that in November with 
suburban voters, in particular 
women in suburban areas.

1348
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:43,866
They are sprinting away 
from the president and 
the Republican Party.

1349
02:15:45,766 --> 02:15:47,833
And also independent voters 
are sprinting away from 
the Republican Party.

1350
02:15:47,833 --> 02:15:49,833
So they are going to be 
in a tough spot in 2020.

1351
02:15:49,833 --> 02:15:53,066
JUDY WOODRUFF: I want to come 
back to you, Robert Costa, 
because you started all of this

1352
02:15:53,066 --> 02:15:58,066
by pointing out that the 
president at this point, despite 
the -- some talk about reaching

1353
02:15:59,500 --> 02:16:03,200
across the aisle, is very -- 
is hyper-focused on his base.

1354
02:16:03,200 --> 02:16:08,200
ROBERT COSTA: And it is, Judy, 
perhaps historically notable in 
the way the president disavowed

1355
02:16:09,966 --> 02:16:12,000
socialism.

1356
02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:15,966
He addressed the rise 
of a vigorous new left 
in this country, a 
movement that was stoked

1357
02:16:18,433 --> 02:16:21,100
by Senator Bernie Sanders 
in his 2016 campaign, 
was then championed in 
2018 by new Democrats

1358
02:16:23,100 --> 02:16:27,200
like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 
the new member from New York.

1359
02:16:27,200 --> 02:16:31,533
And he is saying to the 
Republican Party, there will 
never be a socialist government

1360
02:16:31,533 --> 02:16:33,533
in this country.

1361
02:16:33,533 --> 02:16:37,533
That is a rally cry for a right 
wing in this country that is 
nervous about this vigorous

1362
02:16:38,333 --> 02:16:40,400
left.

1363
02:16:40,400 --> 02:16:43,433
And he is saying that there 
is a line in the sand between 
that vision that is emerging

1364
02:16:43,433 --> 02:16:46,933
on the left and his own that 
he has cultivated on the right.

1365
02:16:46,933 --> 02:16:50,966
JUDY WOODRUFF: Robert 
Costa reporting for us 
from The Washington Post.

1366
02:16:50,966 --> 02:16:55,966
I want to spend the remaining 
time we have here, Mark, 
looking at how the president has

1367
02:16:57,866 --> 02:17:01,133
set the table for this coming 
year, whether it is immigration, 
whether it is -- whether

1368
02:17:03,133 --> 02:17:07,800
they do something together on 
infrastructure, but trying to 
shore up his base and, frankly,

1369
02:17:10,700 --> 02:17:15,700
making sure he is in as strong 
a possible position, given 
that there may be a Mueller

1370
02:17:17,733 --> 02:17:21,833
investigation result that is 
not favorable to him -- we 
don't know -- and any number

1371
02:17:21,833 --> 02:17:25,233
of other things that could go 
wrong, other investigations 
that are leading somewhere.

1372
02:17:25,233 --> 02:17:27,300
MARK SHIELDS: No.

1373
02:17:27,300 --> 02:17:31,233
I mean, I thought if, in fact, 
he was secure with his base 
and not worried about losing

1374
02:17:33,533 --> 02:17:37,533
support with any kind 
of impeachment effort, 
which I don't see 
immediately on the horizon,

1375
02:17:39,600 --> 02:17:43,600
then doing the infrastructure, 
and particularly drug prices, 
in a bipartisan way, I think,

1376
02:17:46,500 --> 02:17:49,133
is just a political 
winner for the president.

1377
02:17:49,133 --> 02:17:52,966
But it was almost cursory, 
it was almost pro forma, 
the way he did that.

1378
02:17:52,966 --> 02:17:56,600
I mean, you know, infrastructure 
has become a throwaway line.

1379
02:17:56,600 --> 02:17:59,366
It is like the balanced budget 
constitutional amendment.

1380
02:17:59,366 --> 02:18:00,400
I mean...

1381
02:18:00,400 --> 02:18:02,433
(CROSSTALK)

1382
02:18:02,433 --> 02:18:03,366
JUDY WOODRUFF: But a lot of 
people would agree the country 
is in desperate need of getting

1383
02:18:03,366 --> 02:18:04,166
its infrastructure fixed.

1384
02:18:04,166 --> 02:18:05,700
MARK SHIELDS: I agree.

1385
02:18:05,700 --> 02:18:06,500
Everybody talks about it, but 
nobody does anybody about it.

1386
02:18:06,500 --> 02:18:09,033
JUDY WOODRUFF: Well...

1387
02:18:09,033 --> 02:18:10,466
MARK SHIELDS: I mean, he 
asked for $1.5 trillion, 
and the Congress appointed 
$21 billion, and,

1388
02:18:10,466 --> 02:18:14,433
you know, which was, 
what, one-half a percent.

1389
02:18:14,433 --> 02:18:18,733
You know, it was 
just the last year.

1390
02:18:18,733 --> 02:18:23,700
I mean, but he is asking the 
Congress for a plan, instead 
of coming in with a plan.

1391
02:18:23,700 --> 02:18:28,700
I mean, and on the prescription 
drugs, I mean, I think 
it is a winner for him.

1392
02:18:30,700 --> 02:18:34,933
But I saw tonight more word 
paid to it, and not sort of that 
sense of passionate commitment.

1393
02:18:40,400 --> 02:18:42,066
That's where you 
get the coalition.

1394
02:18:42,066 --> 02:18:44,600
That's where you get 
the bipartisanship, 
if he really wants it.

1395
02:18:44,600 --> 02:18:47,100
JUDY WOODRUFF: And that's 
something the Democrats 
have said they would 
like to work with the

1396
02:18:47,100 --> 02:18:48,100
president on.

1397
02:18:48,100 --> 02:18:50,100
MARK SHIELDS: Sure they would.

1398
02:18:50,100 --> 02:18:51,766
JUDY WOODRUFF: Pete Wehner, how 
has he set the table, do you 
think, for this coming year?

1399
02:18:51,766 --> 02:18:54,566
PETER WEHNER: Well, I 
don't think the speech 
will have set the table.

1400
02:18:54,566 --> 02:18:57,433
I think it was primarily 
a political speech, as 
opposed to a policy speech.

1401
02:18:57,433 --> 02:19:00,133
State of the Unions 
are always a mix.

1402
02:19:00,133 --> 02:19:04,066
But this is a White House, 
if you talk to Republicans 
on Capitol Hill, which I have

1403
02:19:04,066 --> 02:19:07,000
done, where the policy 
process is broken.

1404
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:12,000
So I think you have to view 
most of these initiatives 
that he mentioned as basically

1405
02:19:12,733 --> 02:19:14,733
public relations.

1406
02:19:14,733 --> 02:19:17,800
Look, the country, 
unfortunately, is going 
to be more divided at 
the end of this year

1407
02:19:17,800 --> 02:19:22,800
than it is right now, because 
you have several things 
that are going to happen.

1408
02:19:25,233 --> 02:19:28,100
You have a president 
whose natural instinct is 
toward the inflammation 
of the body politic,

1409
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:30,933
who seeks to divide.

1410
02:19:30,933 --> 02:19:33,500
That is what gives him energy.

1411
02:19:33,500 --> 02:19:37,200
And, secondly, he believes that 
it is in his political interest 
to do it, for the reasons

1412
02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:38,700
that we have discussed.

1413
02:19:38,700 --> 02:19:41,366
And, third, you are going 
to have the Mueller report.

1414
02:19:41,366 --> 02:19:43,466
It was very interesting.

1415
02:19:43,466 --> 02:19:47,033
At the beginning of the 
speech, he -- his tone and 
his countenance struck me.

1416
02:19:47,033 --> 02:19:49,766
It was like he was hit 
by a tranquilizer dart.

1417
02:19:49,766 --> 02:19:52,033
And when did he begin 
to become animated?

1418
02:19:52,033 --> 02:19:57,033
It was when he went after this 
illegal, partisan investigation.

1419
02:19:58,466 --> 02:20:00,366
And that is the thing that 
is closest to his heart.

1420
02:20:00,366 --> 02:20:02,633
That's what he tweets about.

1421
02:20:02,633 --> 02:20:05,700
And that is what 
draws his energy.

1422
02:20:05,700 --> 02:20:10,700
So, you know, I wish it were 
something else, but I don't 
think that this speech will have

1423
02:20:11,900 --> 02:20:14,266
been a foreshadowing 
of the year to come.

1424
02:20:14,266 --> 02:20:16,233
I think that it will be 
viewed as a parenthesis.

1425
02:20:16,233 --> 02:20:18,733
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, do we just 
go back to the way things 
were after the speech...

1426
02:20:18,733 --> 02:20:19,733
AMY WALTER: Yes.

1427
02:20:19,733 --> 02:20:21,433
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: Pretty much.

1428
02:20:21,433 --> 02:20:22,400
JUDY WOODRUFF: ... as 
if the State of the 
Union never happened?

1429
02:20:22,400 --> 02:20:24,433
Amy Walter.

1430
02:20:24,433 --> 02:20:28,166
AMY WALTER: I was reading this 
line where he said, we can 
build new coalitions, forge

1431
02:20:28,166 --> 02:20:32,133
new solutions, break decades 
of political stalemate.

1432
02:20:32,133 --> 02:20:35,433
A lot of people voted for 
Donald Trump thinking that 
is exactly what he would do.

1433
02:20:35,433 --> 02:20:39,033
I don't think they were -- they 
weren't totally naive, but they 
did think, here is somebody

1434
02:20:39,033 --> 02:20:43,700
who is going to come into 
this process who is not 
attached to the party.

1435
02:20:43,700 --> 02:20:45,433
He has no ideological moorings.

1436
02:20:45,433 --> 02:20:48,200
He can kind of go 
wherever he needs to go.

1437
02:20:48,200 --> 02:20:52,700
And I was wondering that, too, 
that, in that moment of time 
between the election and his

1438
02:20:52,700 --> 02:20:57,666
inauguration, was there 
going to be this moment 
where the president could 
reach out and create

1439
02:20:58,433 --> 02:21:00,433
these new coalitions?

1440
02:21:00,433 --> 02:21:03,566
We knew these new coalitions 
had formed in the 2016 election, 
especially in the Upper

1441
02:21:03,566 --> 02:21:08,566
Midwest that had for years gone 
Democratic and went to the GOP.

1442
02:21:10,733 --> 02:21:12,733
So there was this 
chance, whether it was 
with infrastructure, 
prescription drugs, certainly

1443
02:21:12,733 --> 02:21:14,200
the opioid crisis.

1444
02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:16,233
That could have been the 
first thing out of the gate.

1445
02:21:16,233 --> 02:21:20,900
It would have absolutely put 
Democrats back on their heels, 
because they wouldn't be feeling

1446
02:21:22,100 --> 02:21:24,733
very sure of what to 
do with this, right?

1447
02:21:24,733 --> 02:21:26,733
Well, we have got to work 
out with the president.

1448
02:21:26,733 --> 02:21:28,233
He's saying things...

1449
02:21:28,233 --> 02:21:30,333
JUDY WOODRUFF: Rather than 
trying to kill health care.

1450
02:21:30,333 --> 02:21:31,800
AMY WALTER: Right, absolutely, 
not only kill health care, but 
the very first thing he did

1451
02:21:31,800 --> 02:21:35,633
was the -- was calling 
for the travel ban, right?

1452
02:21:35,633 --> 02:21:37,433
That was the first 
thing out of the box.

1453
02:21:37,433 --> 02:21:38,433
JUDY WOODRUFF: That 
was the very first...

1454
02:21:38,433 --> 02:21:40,400
(CROSSTALK)

1455
02:21:40,400 --> 02:21:42,433
AMY WALTER: And, at that 
moment in time, you could see 
that potential going away.

1456
02:21:42,433 --> 02:21:45,233
And the other issue, the other 
reason we are not going to 
see bipartisanship, there is

1457
02:21:45,233 --> 02:21:48,133
just an absolute 
lack of trust there.

1458
02:21:48,133 --> 02:21:50,466
There was always wariness 
with the president.

1459
02:21:50,466 --> 02:21:55,433
But after the debacle over 
the wall funding, there is not 
one Democrat right now who I

1460
02:21:57,433 --> 02:22:01,766
talk to who thinks it is worth 
putting any stock in anything 
that the president says

1461
02:22:03,800 --> 02:22:07,600
to you in private or in public 
about -- whether it is about 
infrastructure or other things

1462
02:22:08,333 --> 02:22:10,333
that they can agree on.

1463
02:22:10,333 --> 02:22:14,166
JUDY WOODRUFF: And, given that, 
Chris Buskirk, how does this 
president get anything done

1464
02:22:15,366 --> 02:22:17,366
that he wants done going 
forward in this climate?

1465
02:22:17,366 --> 02:22:20,800
CHRIS BUSKIRK: Yes, I think 
there is always the opportunity 
for a president to reset the

1466
02:22:20,800 --> 02:22:22,033
table and take action.

1467
02:22:22,033 --> 02:22:24,733
The question will be, 
will this one do it?

1468
02:22:24,733 --> 02:22:26,733
And I, for one, 
would like to see it.

1469
02:22:26,733 --> 02:22:30,266
I think I have heard other 
people who are on the left 
say, in some instances, narrow

1470
02:22:30,266 --> 02:22:32,566
instances, they would 
like to see that too.

1471
02:22:32,566 --> 02:22:34,900
Infrastructure is, again, 
one of these things that 
has been in every speech.

1472
02:22:34,900 --> 02:22:37,033
Where is the legislation?

1473
02:22:37,033 --> 02:22:40,433
Preexisting conditions, those 
are things that could be done, 
or at least solutions offered.

1474
02:22:40,433 --> 02:22:41,933
Drug prices, these are things.

1475
02:22:41,933 --> 02:22:45,300
But you really have to push 
a legislative agenda hard.

1476
02:22:45,300 --> 02:22:48,300
And that requires working with 
Republicans and Democrats.

1477
02:22:48,300 --> 02:22:49,566
I don't expect bipartisanship.

1478
02:22:49,566 --> 02:22:52,000
People like to say that 
to kind of win the day.

1479
02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:53,000
Politics are real.

1480
02:22:53,000 --> 02:22:55,033
The disagreements are real.

1481
02:22:55,033 --> 02:22:57,866
But there are places 
where people can find 
common interests, 
political interests, and

1482
02:22:57,866 --> 02:22:59,033
pass some of these things.

1483
02:22:59,033 --> 02:22:59,866
JUDY WOODRUFF: Criminal 
justice reform.

1484
02:22:59,866 --> 02:23:01,533
CHRIS BUSKIRK: Sure.

1485
02:23:01,533 --> 02:23:03,066
JUDY WOODRUFF: And then 
the president keeps 
coming back to that.

1486
02:23:03,066 --> 02:23:04,400
And the Democrats, Karine, 
come back to that as well.

1487
02:23:04,400 --> 02:23:05,900
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: 
Right, right.

1488
02:23:05,900 --> 02:23:10,400
It was a -- it is a first step, 
hence the name of the now law.

1489
02:23:12,366 --> 02:23:16,000
And if some -- that would be 
something that Democrats would 
work on to make it better,

1490
02:23:17,333 --> 02:23:19,433
along with infrastructure 
and other things.

1491
02:23:19,433 --> 02:23:22,333
But it is just -- it is just 
not going to happen because 
of just the speech that we

1492
02:23:22,333 --> 02:23:24,466
saw tonight.

1493
02:23:24,466 --> 02:23:26,633
But there were a couple 
of differences tonight, 
something that Donald 
Trump surely has never

1494
02:23:26,633 --> 02:23:31,633
seen before, is, it is probably 
the first time in his career 
as a politico that he spoke

1495
02:23:33,033 --> 02:23:36,133
in front, an audience that 
was majority Democrats, right?

1496
02:23:36,133 --> 02:23:38,200
It is a divided government.

1497
02:23:38,200 --> 02:23:41,933
And that is something, that 
does sit in his craw, because he 
knows the Mueller investigation,

1498
02:23:41,933 --> 02:23:43,733
the question of impeachment.

1499
02:23:43,733 --> 02:23:47,033
Now there's the SDNY that 
he can't even control.

1500
02:23:47,033 --> 02:23:48,833
There is no one 
he can fire there.

1501
02:23:48,833 --> 02:23:50,900
JUDY WOODRUFF: Southern 
District of New York.

1502
02:23:50,900 --> 02:23:53,133
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: Yes, right, 
Southern District of New York 
that is now looking at -- now

1503
02:23:53,133 --> 02:23:57,333
looking at the inaugural 
committee and sent out 
subpoenas a couple of days ago.

1504
02:23:57,333 --> 02:24:00,766
So, we are living in a new 
world for Donald Trump.

1505
02:24:00,766 --> 02:24:04,800
The one thing I want to say 
that was kind of comical, 
when he talks about women, and

1506
02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:08,966
everybody stands up 
and clapping, and he 
is acknowledging them, 
the funny thing about

1507
02:24:08,966 --> 02:24:13,966
it is, he is one of the reasons 
why many women decided to run 
in 2018 and take it on, because

1508
02:24:17,500 --> 02:24:18,500
they wanted to...

1509
02:24:18,500 --> 02:24:20,566
JUDY WOODRUFF: That's right.

1510
02:24:20,566 --> 02:24:23,033
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: ... to be 
a part of Congress, to stop the 
madness that they were seeing.

1511
02:24:23,033 --> 02:24:27,766
So it is kind of comical that 
he was, you know, acknowledging 
it, but he is kind of

1512
02:24:27,766 --> 02:24:29,700
the catalyst for it too.

1513
02:24:29,700 --> 02:24:31,933
JUDY WOODRUFF: It was striking, 
because a lot of these women 
to decided to get in and

1514
02:24:31,933 --> 02:24:33,566
jump in and run 
because they were...

1515
02:24:33,566 --> 02:24:34,500
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: 
Right, because of 
what they were seeing.

1516
02:24:34,500 --> 02:24:35,700
JUDY WOODRUFF: Opposed him.

1517
02:24:35,700 --> 02:24:37,200
Well, our time is 
just about at an end.

1518
02:24:37,200 --> 02:24:39,233
I have to say, some news is 
apparently being made tonight.

1519
02:24:39,233 --> 02:24:43,466
Amy Klobuchar, the senator from 
Minnesota, has tweeted that 
she will have an announcement

1520
02:24:43,466 --> 02:24:45,700
to make, I think, in a few days.

1521
02:24:45,700 --> 02:24:50,500
So it sounds like maybe she 
will be, what, the fourth woman 
to announce that she's running

1522
02:24:50,500 --> 02:24:51,500
for president...

1523
02:24:51,500 --> 02:24:52,966
(CROSSTALK)

1524
02:24:52,966 --> 02:24:54,200
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: Fourth 
woman, crowded field.

1525
02:24:54,200 --> 02:24:55,366
JUDY WOODRUFF: ... on 
the Democratic side.

1526
02:24:55,366 --> 02:24:56,033
MARK SHIELDS: 
Everybody satisfied?

1527
02:24:56,033 --> 02:24:57,266
(LAUGHTER)

1528
02:24:57,266 --> 02:24:58,066
JUDY WOODRUFF: Hey, 
we will talk about it.

1529
02:24:58,066 --> 02:24:59,300
We will talk about it.

1530
02:24:59,300 --> 02:25:00,166
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE: 
It is historical.

1531
02:25:00,166 --> 02:25:02,233
It is historical.

1532
02:25:02,233 --> 02:25:03,766
JUDY WOODRUFF: I just have to 
thank these wonderful people 
for sticking with us through

1533
02:25:03,766 --> 02:25:06,400
this -- this extraordinary 
State of the Union night.

1534
02:25:06,400 --> 02:25:08,933
Thank you for joining us.

1535
02:25:08,933 --> 02:25:12,600
I want to thank again 
all of our guests, Mark 
Shields, Pete Wehner, Amy 
Walter, Karine Jean-Pierre,

1536
02:25:13,300 --> 02:25:15,700
Chris Buskirk.

1537
02:25:15,700 --> 02:25:19,300
Thank you all, and, of 
course, to our correspondents 
at the Capitol, Lisa 
Desjardins, Yamiche Alcindor

1538
02:25:20,733 --> 02:25:23,133
at the White House, Robert Costa 
there at The Washington Post.

1539
02:25:23,133 --> 02:25:24,133
Thank you, all.

1540
02:25:24,133 --> 02:25:25,133
And thank you for watching.

1541
02:25:25,133 --> 02:25:26,366
Stay with us.

1542
02:25:26,366 --> 02:25:28,533
Our coverage will 
continue online.

1543
02:25:28,533 --> 02:25:32,600
Tomorrow, we will have 
our podcast State of 
the Union after-show, 
available at 6:00 a.m.

1544
02:25:33,066 --> 02:25:34,066
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1545
02:25:34,066 --> 02:25:35,233
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1546
02:25:35,233 --> 02:25:37,333
Listen to that.

1547
02:25:37,333 --> 02:25:39,833
And be sure to tune in to 
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a full report and analysis.

1548
02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:44,133
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