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>> Thompson: FOR MORE ON THE

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SHUTDOWN, "WASHINGTON POST"

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REPORTER DAMIAN PALETTA JOINS US

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NOW FROM WASHINGTON, D.C.

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SO, DAMIEN, YOU'VE BEEN KEEPING

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YOUR EYE ON ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS

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IN WASHINGTON TODAY.

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CAN YOU JUST TELL US WHAT ALL

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HAS HAPPENED AND WHERE DO WE

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STAND NOW?

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>> SURE, I MEAN, I THINK THINGS

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HAVE GONE FROM BAD TO WORSE.

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WE SAW PRESIDENT TRUMP HAVE

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LUNCH TODAY WITH SOME HARD-LINE

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CONSERVATIVES AT THE WHITE

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HOUSE, PEOPLE THAT REALLY

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SUPPORT HIS, YOU KNOW, PUSH TO

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DEMAND MONEY FOR THE BORDER

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WALL.

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CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS WERE ON

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CAPITOL HILL, BUT THEY MADE NO

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REAL PROGRESS, EITHER.

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IN FACT, THE SENATE HAS

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ADJOURNED UNTIL TWO DAYS AFTER

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CHRISTMAS.

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A NUMBER OF FEDERAL AGENCIES

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WILL BE CLOSED.

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WE'VE ALREADY SEEN, YOU KNOW,

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DOZENS OF NATIONAL PARKS CLOSE

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TODAY.

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AND 380,000 FEDERAL WORKERS, NOT

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TO MENTION ALL THE CONTRACTORS

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AND OTHERS, WILL BE SENT HOME

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WITHOUT PAY BEGINNING WEDNESDAY.

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>> Thompson: YOU MENTIONED THAT

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THE SENATE'S ADJOURNED UNTIL THE

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27th, BUT, I MEAN, HOW LIKELY IS

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IT THAT WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE THIS

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GET RESOLVED THEN?

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OR, I MEAN, DO YOU THINK THAT

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THIS MIGHT JUST CONTINUE UNTIL

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THE DEMOCRATS TAKE OVER THE

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HOUSE IN JANUARY?

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>> IT'S INCREASINGLY STARTING TO

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LOOK LIKE THAT.

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I MEAN, ONCE YOU GET TO THE

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27th, YOU'RE ABOUT A WEEK

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AWAY FROM DEMOCRATS TAKING

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CONTROL OF THE HOUSE OF

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REPRESENTATIVES.

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DEMOCRATS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE ON

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VERY SOLID GROUND HERE IN THIS

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IMPASSE BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP

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SAID LAST WEEK THAT HE WOULD OWN

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THE SHUTDOWN.

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HE WOULD BE PROUD TO SHUT DOWN

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THE GOVERNMENT.

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THE REPUBLICANS HAVE KIND OF

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CHANGED THEIR POSITION MULTIPLE

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TIMES LEADING INTO THE SHUTDOWN,

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SO NANCY PELOSI IN THE HOUSE AND

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CHUCK SCHUMER IN THE SENATE, YOU

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KNOW, HAVE BEEN ABLE TO UNIFY

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THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO HOLD

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FIRM AND OPPOSE ANY MONEY FOR

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THE WALL.

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SO, THE DEMOCRATS FEEL LIKE

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THEY'RE IN GOOD POSITION, AND

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THEY CAN MAYBE WAIT THIS OUT

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ANOTHER WEEK.

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>> Thompson: DO YOU THINK THAT

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ALL OF THIS POLITICAL JOCKEYING

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IS KIND OF FORESHADOWING WHAT

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WE'RE GOING TO SEE WHEN THE NEW

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CONGRESS COMES INTO SESSION?

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>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

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THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

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I THINK BOTH SIDES ARE KIND OF

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FEELING EACH OTHER OUT, AND

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NEITHER SIDE WANTS TO GIVE IN.

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NANCY PELOSI, WHO'S GOING TO BE

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THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE IN

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JANUARY, YOU KNOW, NEEDED TO

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PROVE TO HER MEMBERS, ESPECIALLY

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HER NEW MEMBERS, THE NEW

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DEMOCRATS WHO WERE JUST ELECTED,

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THAT SHE CAN STAND UP TO

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PRESIDENT TRUMP AND, YOU KNOW,

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REALLY HOLD THE LINE.

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SIMILARLY FOR CHUCK SCHUMER, WHO

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WILL REMAIN THE SENATE MINORITY

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LEADER BUT WHO HAS A LOT OF

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POWER BECAUSE DEMOCRATS CAN

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BLOCK LEGISLATION IN THE SENATE.

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SO, WITH THEM WORKING TOGETHER,

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THEY REALLY, FOR THE FIRST TIME,

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ACT AS A BIG CHECK ON PRESIDENT

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TRUMP'S AUTHORITY.

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PRESIDENT TRUMP, ON THE OTHER

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HAND, FEELS LIKE HE HAS TO, YOU

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KNOW, TAKE A TOUGH POSITION OR

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DEMOCRATS WILL TRY TO

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ESSENTIALLY TAKE AWAY ALL OF HIS

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POWER.

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SO, THERE'S A REAL, YOU KNOW,

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SHOWDOWN HAPPENING HERE, AND IT

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COULD DRAG ON FOR QUITE A WHILE.

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>> Thompson: SO, FOR THE NEXT

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FEW DAYS, WHEN THE GOVERNMENT IS

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DEFINITELY GOING TO BE SHUT

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DOWN, WHAT KINDS OF THINGS ARE

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WE GOING TO SEE?

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HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT

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PEOPLE?

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>> WE SAW MANY, MANY NATIONAL

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PARKS TODAY WERE CLOSED.

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THE GATEWAY ARCH IN ST. LOUIS,

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WHERE I'M ORIGINALLY FROM, WAS

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CLOSED.

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MANY OTHER PARKS CLOSED THEIR

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DOORS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

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EVEN IN PUERTO RICO, THEY WERE

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CLOSED.

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THAT'S, OBVIOUSLY, INCONVENIENT

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AND HURTS A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO

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HAVE BUSINESSES MAYBE CONNECTED

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TO THOSE NATIONAL PARKS.

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I THINK WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY,

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WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING THE

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REAL IMPACT ON A LOT OF FEDERAL

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WORKERS, LIKE I MENTIONED.

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380,000 FEDERAL WORKERS WILL BE

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SENT HOME INDEFINITELY WITHOUT

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PAY.

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ANOTHER 400,000 WORKERS WILL

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CONTINUE TO GO TO THEIR JOBS,

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BUT THEY WILL NOT BE PAID UNTIL

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THIS IS RESOLVED.

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IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN

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MIND THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, A

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HANDFUL.

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MULTIPLE FEDERAL AGENCIES, BUT

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NOT ALL FEDERAL AGENCIES WILL BE

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IMPACTED.

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THE PENTAGON IS NOT IMPACTED,

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BUT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND

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SECURITY IS IMPACTED.

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SO, IT COULD HAVE KIND OF AN

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UNEVEN IMPACT, BUT IT WILL

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DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, BE FELT BY

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MANY PEOPLE.

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>> Thompson: ALL RIGHT, DAMIEN

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PALETTA OF THE "WASHINGTON

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POST."

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING

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US.

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>> MY PLEASURE, THANK YOU.