WEBVTT 00:00.133 --> 00:01.001 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: THE PROTESTS SET 00:01.001 --> 00:02.202 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OFF BY THE KILLING OF GEORGE 00:02.202 --> 00:03.837 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% FLOYD IN MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA, 00:03.837 --> 00:05.105 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ARE BEING LED BY A NEW 00:05.105 --> 00:06.940 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GENERATION OF YOUNG ACTIVISTS, 00:06.940 --> 00:08.441 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MANY WHO ALSO WANT TO BRING MORE 00:08.441 --> 00:09.609 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ATTENTION TO THE STORIES OF 00:09.609 --> 00:11.144 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% POLICE VIOLENCE AGAINST BLACK 00:11.144 --> 00:11.945 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WOMEN. 00:11.945 --> 00:13.279 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I SPOKE RECENTLY WITH KEISHA 00:13.279 --> 00:14.781 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BLAIN, AN ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR OF 00:14.781 --> 00:15.915 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HISTORY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF 00:15.915 --> 00:17.884 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PITTSBURGH AND AUTHOR OF "SET 00:17.884 --> 00:19.386 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THE WORLD ON FIRE: BLACK 00:19.386 --> 00:20.920 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% NATIONALIST WOMEN AND THE GLOBAL 00:20.920 --> 00:23.023 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% STRUGGLE FOR FREEDOM." 00:23.023 --> 00:25.258 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DR. BLAIN, IT SEEMS, AS WE HAVE 00:25.258 --> 00:26.493 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THIS NATIONAL CONVERSATION 00:26.493 --> 00:28.395 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT'S BEEN PROMPTED IN PART BY 00:28.395 --> 00:31.998 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GEORGE FLOYD'S DEATH, THAT THERE 00:31.998 --> 00:32.899 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE 00:32.899 --> 00:35.668 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MISSING WHEN IT COMES TO AN 00:35.668 --> 00:38.438 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ENTIRE GENDER THAT'S STRUGGLING 00:38.438 --> 00:40.907 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WITH THE SAME THINGS. 00:40.907 --> 00:42.108 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> YES, I THINK SO. 00:42.108 --> 00:44.744 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IN FACT, MANY ACTIVISTS IN THE 00:44.744 --> 00:47.414 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LAST FEW WEEKS HAVE BEEN 00:47.414 --> 00:50.784 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% POINTING OUT THE FACT THAT EVEN 00:50.784 --> 00:52.819 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BEFORE THE POLICE KILLING OF 00:52.819 --> 00:56.189 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% GEORGE FLOYD, BREONNA TAYLOR WAS 00:56.189 --> 00:58.124 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% KILLED BY THE POLICE, AN E.M.T. 00:58.124 --> 01:00.827 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WORKER IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. 01:00.827 --> 01:01.861 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND ACTIVISTS HAVE BEEN 01:01.861 --> 01:04.297 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% INSISTING THAT WE REALLY PAY 01:04.297 --> 01:05.965 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ATTENTION TO THIS CASE. 01:05.965 --> 01:07.667 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TO THIS VERY DAY, THE POLICE 01:07.667 --> 01:10.336 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OFFICERS WHO-- WHO KILLED TAYLOR 01:10.336 --> 01:11.938 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HAVE NOT BEEN ARRESTED. 01:11.938 --> 01:14.674 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND I THINK MORE AND MORE PEOPLE 01:14.674 --> 01:15.909 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ARE SURELY TALKING ABOUT BRIANNA 01:15.909 --> 01:17.710 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TAYLOR, BUT THAT WAS JUST ONE 01:17.710 --> 01:20.380 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% EXAMPLE OF HOW BLACK WOMEN'S 01:20.380 --> 01:22.549 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% EXPERIENCES ARE OFTEN SIDELINED 01:22.549 --> 01:25.552 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IN NATIONAL NARRATIVES ABOUT 01:25.552 --> 01:26.653 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AMERICAN POLICING. 01:26.653 --> 01:27.320 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: THERE WAS A 01:27.320 --> 01:28.721 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHOLE "SAY HER NAME" CAMPAIGN 01:28.721 --> 01:29.889 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT WAS QUITE SUCCESSFUL IN 01:29.889 --> 01:31.291 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TRYING TO RAISE AWARENESS OF IT, 01:31.291 --> 01:33.426 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BUT IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT-- 01:33.426 --> 01:34.461 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND IT STILL ISN'T SOMETHING 01:34.461 --> 01:36.429 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT CREATES THE SAME KIND OF 01:36.429 --> 01:38.331 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HEADLINES. 01:38.331 --> 01:41.101 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? 01:41.101 --> 01:43.236 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> WELL, CERTAINLY, I THINK THE 01:43.236 --> 01:45.638 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DATA REVEALS TO US THAT THE 01:45.638 --> 01:47.874 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MAJORITY OF BLACK PEOPLE THAT 01:47.874 --> 01:50.410 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ARE-- WHO ARE KILLED BY POLICE 01:50.410 --> 01:52.245 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ARE YOUNG BLACK MEN. 01:52.245 --> 01:54.647 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SO, IN SOME WAYS, THE-- THE 01:54.647 --> 01:56.683 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% FOCUS ON BLACK MEN IS-- IS VERY 01:56.683 --> 01:58.585 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MUCH REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THE DATA 01:58.585 --> 01:59.419 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TELLS US. 01:59.419 --> 02:01.454 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT THERE'S 02:01.454 --> 02:05.558 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ALSO, I THINK TO A LARGE EXTENT, 02:05.558 --> 02:08.461 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PERHAPS WE MIGHT SAY SEXISM AND 02:08.461 --> 02:10.230 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% EVEN, YOU KNOW, PATRIARCHY, 02:10.230 --> 02:12.165 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHICH IS TO SAY THAT THE WAY 02:12.165 --> 02:13.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PEOPLE WRITE ABOUT AMERICAN 02:13.900 --> 02:17.103 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% POLICING TENDS TO FOCUS 02:17.103 --> 02:18.905 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PRIMARILY ON THE EXPERIENCES OF 02:18.905 --> 02:19.939 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BLACK MEN. 02:19.939 --> 02:22.408 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND EVEN AS WE RECOGNIZE THAT-- 02:22.408 --> 02:24.310 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT MOST BLACK MEN ARE KILLED 02:24.310 --> 02:25.912 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BY THE POLICE, I THINK THE KEY 02:25.912 --> 02:28.248 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% HERE IS TO TELL THE WHOLE STORY; 02:28.248 --> 02:30.416 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT THE KEY HERE IS TO MAKE IT 02:30.416 --> 02:31.784 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CLEAR THAT BLACK WOMEN AND GIRLS 02:31.784 --> 02:34.687 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ARE ALSO VULNERABLE TO STATE- 02:34.687 --> 02:35.722 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SANCTIONED VIOLENCE. 02:35.722 --> 02:36.422 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: WHAT ABOUT THE 02:36.422 --> 02:40.293 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IMPACT OF THE VIOLENCE ON 02:40.293 --> 02:42.128 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% EVERYBODY THAT'S RELATED TO OR 02:42.128 --> 02:43.263 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CONNECTED TO THE INDIVIDUAL, 02:43.263 --> 02:44.531 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% RIGHT, WHETHER THEY ARE MOTHERS 02:44.531 --> 02:46.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OR SISTERS OR DAUGHTERS? 02:46.966 --> 02:49.536 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT THERE IS TRAUMA; THAT IT'S 02:49.536 --> 02:50.570 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% NOT JUST THE ONE PERSON THAT 02:50.570 --> 02:52.238 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DIED, THAT GOT HURT, SO TO 02:52.238 --> 02:53.540 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SPEAK. 02:53.540 --> 02:54.107 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> EXACTLY. 02:54.107 --> 02:56.743 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND WE SEE THAT CLEARLY WITH THE 02:56.743 --> 02:59.245 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% RECENT CASE OF ERIC GARNER. 02:59.245 --> 03:01.814 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WITHIN DAYS OF-- OF GARNER'S 03:01.814 --> 03:04.284 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DEATH, WE SAW HIS DAUGHTER, 03:04.284 --> 03:06.719 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ERICA, RISING ON THE NATIONAL 03:06.719 --> 03:09.389 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SCENE, PUSHING THE ISSUE, 03:09.389 --> 03:11.591 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DEMANDING, YOU KNOW, CHANGES IN 03:11.591 --> 03:13.126 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AMERICAN POLICING. 03:13.126 --> 03:15.094 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BUT-- BUT THE KEY HERE IS THAT 03:15.094 --> 03:16.596 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BLACK WOMEN ARE-- ARE CERTAINLY 03:16.596 --> 03:17.830 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AFFECTED. 03:17.830 --> 03:18.965 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WE CAN TALK ABOUT TRAUMA. 03:18.965 --> 03:20.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WE CAN TALK ABOUT JUST THE 03:20.200 --> 03:21.968 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% EMOTIONAL TURMOIL THAT THEY GO 03:21.968 --> 03:23.036 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THROUGH. 03:23.036 --> 03:24.404 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND IT'S NOT SURPRISING THEN 03:24.404 --> 03:26.072 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THAT THEY ARE OFTEN THE ONES AT 03:26.072 --> 03:28.341 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THE FOREFRONT OF THE FIGHT TO 03:28.341 --> 03:30.677 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BRING AN END TO POLICE VIOLENCE 03:30.677 --> 03:32.078 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND BRUTALITY. 03:32.078 --> 03:32.912 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: AND YOU 03:32.912 --> 03:34.013 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% LITERALLY HAVE WRITTEN THE BOOK 03:34.013 --> 03:35.315 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ON THIS, THAT BEING AT THE 03:35.315 --> 03:36.282 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% FOREFRONT OF THE FIGHT IS 03:36.282 --> 03:37.083 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SOMETHING THAT BLACK WOMEN HAVE 03:37.083 --> 03:39.586 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BEEN DOING FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 03:39.586 --> 03:40.186 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> ABSOLUTELY. 03:40.186 --> 03:41.521 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND MY BOOK, YOU KNOW, "SET THE 03:41.521 --> 03:43.856 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WORLD ON FIRE," FOCUSES 03:43.856 --> 03:45.892 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PRIMARILY ON WORKING-CLASS BLACK 03:45.892 --> 03:47.827 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WOMEN AND IMPOVERISHED BLACK 03:47.827 --> 03:48.528 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WOMEN. 03:48.528 --> 03:49.662 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND I THINK THAT'S KEY, TOO, 03:49.662 --> 03:51.064 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BECAUSE MANY OF THE WOMEN WHO I 03:51.064 --> 03:53.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% TALK ABOUT DID NOT HAVE MUCH OF 03:53.633 --> 03:55.501 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% A FORMAL EDUCATION. 03:55.501 --> 03:57.604 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% MANY OF THEM DID NOT HAVE MANY-- 03:57.604 --> 03:59.339 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DID NOT HAVE MUCH MATERIAL 03:59.339 --> 04:00.573 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% RESOURCES. 04:00.573 --> 04:01.674 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% BUT WHAT THEY DID HAVE WAS 04:01.674 --> 04:02.275 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PASSION. 04:02.275 --> 04:03.309 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND WHAT THEY DID HAVE WERE 04:03.309 --> 04:04.010 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THEIR VOICES. 04:04.010 --> 04:05.612 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND WHAT THEY DID HAVE WAS THE 04:05.612 --> 04:08.848 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ABILITY TO JUST OPEN UP AND 04:08.848 --> 04:10.483 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% EXPLAIN WHAT THE PROBLEMS WERE 04:10.483 --> 04:11.918 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IN THEIR COMMUNITY, TAKE TO THE 04:11.918 --> 04:13.820 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% STREETS AND DEMAND CHANGES. 04:13.820 --> 04:14.787 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% AND EVEN WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE 04:14.787 --> 04:16.756 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ACCESS TO THE VOTE AT A TIME 04:16.756 --> 04:18.758 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% WHERE BLACK WOMEN COULD NOT VOTE 04:18.758 --> 04:21.127 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% IN THE 20-- EARLY 20th CENTURY, 04:21.127 --> 04:22.528 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% THESE WOMEN WERE STILL 04:22.528 --> 04:24.497 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% DETERMINED TO-- TO-- TO MAKE 04:24.497 --> 04:26.165 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% CHANGES, TO SHAPE NATIONAL 04:26.165 --> 04:28.001 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% POLITICS AND ALSO GO-- GLOBAL 04:28.001 --> 04:29.569 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% POLITICS. 04:29.569 --> 04:30.403 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> Sreenivasan: KEISHA BLAINE, 04:30.403 --> 04:31.938 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR, UNIVERSITY 04:31.938 --> 04:33.039 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% OF PITTSBURGH, THANKS SO MUCH 04:33.039 --> 04:34.274 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% FOR JOINING US. 04:34.274 --> 04:35.642 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.