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>> Stewart: ON TUESDAY, A CUBAN

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SEEKING ASYLUM IN THE U.S. WHO

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HAD BEEN IN ICE CUSTODY IN

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LOUISIANA FOR MONTHS DIED BY AN

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APPARENT SUICIDE.

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ROYLAN HERNANDEZ DIAZ HAD BEEN

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ON A HUNGER STRIKE AND HAD

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CLAIMED ABUSE IN PRISON.

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LOUISIANA HAS BECOME A CENTER OF

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AMERICA'S MIGRANT DETAINEE

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EFFORT, HOUSING ALMOST 8,000 OF

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THE MORE THAN 51,000 PEOPLE

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CURRENTLY BEHIND BARS.

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MANY OF THEM ARE HELD IN REMOTE

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PRISONS AND JAILS FAR FROM LEGAL

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REPRESENTATION.

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REPORTING IN COOPERATION WITH

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THE "NEW ORLEANS ADVOCATE" AND

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ITVS, NEWSHOUR WEEKEND'S SPECIAL

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CORRESPONDENT, JOANNE ELGART

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JENNINGS, HAS THE STORY, THE

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FIRST IN A OUR TWO-PART REPORT.

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>> Reporter: WHEN ATTORNEY

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HOMERO LOPEZ NEEDS TO MEET IN

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PERSON WITH CLIENTS HELD IN

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IMMIGRATION DETENTION, HE HAS TO

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MAKE LONG DRIVES FROM HIS HOME

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IN NEW ORLEANS.

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>> IF YOU DO A DAY TRIP, YOU'RE

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TALKING ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT HOURS

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OF DRIVE, NOT INCLUDING THE TIME

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THAT YOU'’RE PHYSICALLY THERE.

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>> Reporter: HIS NON-PROFIT

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IMMIGRATION SERVICES AND LEGAL

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ADVOCACY PROVIDES FREE LEGAL

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REPRESENTATION FOR MIGRANTS

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DETAINED IN LOUISIANA.

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AND WITH MORE AND MORE DETENTION

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CENTERS BEING OPENED IN RURAL

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AREAS, HE SPENDS A LOT OF TIME

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IN HIS CAR.

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>> THERE'S A LIMITED AMOUNT OF

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PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE

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DETAINED CASES IN LOUISIANA

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BECAUSE IT IS... THEY ARE SO

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FAR, SO RURAL, SO DIFFICULT

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TO... TO GET TO AND TO HANDLE.

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>> Reporter: MOST OF LOPEZ'S

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CLIENTS ARE AT THE PINE PRAIRIE

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ICE PROCESSING CENTER.

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IT'S 180 MILES NORTHWEST OF NEW

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ORLEANS AND HOLDS UP TO 1,094

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DETAINEES.

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THOUGH IT'S A FEDERAL FACILITY,

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IT'S RUN AND STAFFED BY GEO

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GROUP, A PRIVATE PRISON COMPANY

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THAT CONTRACTS WITH THE U.S.

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GOVERNMENT.

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GEO DECLINED OUR REQUEST TO TOUR

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THE DETENTION CENTER, BUT WE

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WERE PERMITTED TO ENTER THE

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VISITATION AREA AND MEET SOME OF

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LOPEZ'’S CLIENTS.

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32-YEAR-OLD CRISTIAN DELEON HAS

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BEEN IN ICE CUSTODY FOR 14

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MONTHS.

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A NATIVE OF GUATEMALA, DELEON

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CAME TO THE U.S. ON A WORK VISA

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WHICH HAS SINCE EXPIRED.

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HE WAS LIVING IN ALABAMA WITH

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HIS FIANCEÉE AND THEIR THREE

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CHILDREN AND WORKING IN

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CONSTRUCTION.

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HOW DID YOU END UP HERE IN ICE

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DETENTION IN LOUISIANA?

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>> (<i>translated</i>): I HAD A SMALL

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CAR ACCIDENT, AND THE POLICE

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CAME TO HELP ME, AND THEN THEY

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ARRESTED ME.

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>> Reporter: DELEON WAS CHARGED

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WITH DRIVING UNDER THE

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INFLUENCE.

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HE SAYS WHEN HIS FIANCEÉE CAME TO

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PAY HIS BOND, THE POLICE

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WOULDN'’T LET HER.

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>> (<i>translated</i>): THEY SAID

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THAT ICE WAS ALREADY COMING FOR

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ME.

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>> Reporter: ICE ISSUED A

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DEPORTATION ORDER, WHICH DELEON

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IS APPEALING.

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MEANWHILE, HE MARRIED HIS

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FIANCEÉE, AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, IN

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A BRIEF PRISON CEREMONY.

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HE'S NOW APPLYING FOR A GREEN

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CARD AS HER SPOUSE.

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DELEON IS NOT TYPICAL OF LOPEZ'S

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CLIENTS.

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MOST HAVE APPLIED FOR ASYLUM

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BECAUSE THEY FEARED FOR THEIR

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LIVES IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY,

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LIKE 36-YEAR-OLD JAMAL JAMAL,

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WHO CAME TO THE U.S. FROM

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PAKISTAN.

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HE SAYS HE HAD FALLEN IN LOVE

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WITH A WOMAN WHOSE FAMILY HAD

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ARRANGED A MARRIAGE FOR HER WITH

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ANOTHER MAN.

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WHEN THE WOMAN TOLD HER FAMILY

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SHE WANTED TO MARRY JAMAL

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INSTEAD, THEY KILLED HER.

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A TRIBAL COUNCIL THEN ORDERED

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JAMAL'S EXECUTION, SO HE FLED

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THE COUNTRY.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN IF

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YOU ARE DEPORTED BACK TO

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PAKISTAN?

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>> Reporter: ON ARRIVAL IN THE

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U.S., HE ASKED FOR ASYLUM.

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HE'S BEEN IN ICE DETENTION FOR

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11 MONTHS AS HIS CASE MAKES ITS

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WAY THROUGH IMMIGRATION COURT.

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KATIE SCHWARTZMANN IS LEGAL

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DIRECTOR OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL

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LIBERTIES UNION IN LOUISIANA.

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SHE SAYS THAT MIGRANTS LIKE

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JAMAL WHO ENTER THE U.S.

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LEGALLY SEEKING ASYLUM AND

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DEMONSTRATE A "CREDIBLE FEAR" OF

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RETURNING TO THEIR HOME COUNTRY

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SHOULD BE RELEASED ON BOND.

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>> THEY'RE ENTITLED TO

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CONSIDERATION FOR SOMETHING THAT

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OUR IMMIGRATION LAW CALLS

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"HUMANITARIAN PAROLE," WHICH

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MEANS THE RIGHT TO REMAIN OUT IN

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THE COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED

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STATES AS ICE CONSIDERS WHETHER

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THE GRANT OF ASYLUM IS

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APPROPRIATE.

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>> Reporter: ICE'S REGIONAL

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OFFICE IN NEW ORLEANS IS

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RESPONSIBLE FOR FIVE SOUTHERN

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STATES, INCLUDING LOUISIANA.

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AS RECENTLY AS 2016, UNDER THE

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OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, IT

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APPROVED PAROLE FOR ALMOST 76%

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OF ASYLUM CASES.

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UNDER THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION,

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THAT NUMBER HAS PLUNGED TO 1.5%.

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THE A.C.L.U. AND THE SOUTHERN

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POVERTY LAW CENTER HAVE FILED

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SUIT AGAINST THE DEPARTMENT OF

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HOMELAND SECURITY.

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THEY ALLEGE THAT ICE'S NEW

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ORLEANS OFFICE IS CATEGORICALLY

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DENYING PAROLE TO ASYLUM SEEKERS

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IN A "VIOLATION OF D.H.S.' OWN

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DIRECTIVE AND GUIDELINES."

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A FEDERAL JUDGE AGREED, NOTING

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IN SEPTEMBER THAT THE NUMBER OF

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PAROLE APPROVALS HAD DROPPED TO

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0% IN 2019.

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HE RULED THAT D.H.S. MUST

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CONSIDER GRANTING PAROLE TO

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DETAINEES SEEKING ASYLUM.

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THE GOVERNMENT IS APPEALING THE

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RULING.

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ICE OFFICIALS SAY PAROLE IS

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DESIGNED TO BE NARROWLY APPLIED.

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BRYAN COX IS ACTING PRESS

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SECRETARY.

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>> THE REALITY IS, IS THAT IF

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PEOPLE COULD SHOW UP AT THE

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BORDER, MAKE A CLAIM AND BE

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RELEASED INTO THE INTERIOR OF

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THE UNITED STATES, NOT EVERYONE

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WILL THEN APPEAR IN COURT.

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AND SO, DETENTION IN SOME

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INSTANCES IS A NECESSARY USE OF

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RESOURCES TO ENSURE THAT PERSONS

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DO IN FACT APPEAR IN COURT.

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>> Reporter: BUT OVER THE PAST

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YEAR, ICE HAS HELD MORE MIGRANTS

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IN DETENTION THAN EVER BEFORE,

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AND MANY ARE HERE IN LOUISIANA.

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LAST YEAR, THERE WERE TWO

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PRISONS HOLDING ABOUT 2,500 ICE

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DETAINEES.

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NOW, THERE ARE 11 HOLDING ALMOST

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9,000 PEOPLE.

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DETAINED MIGRANTS ARE LESS

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LIKELY TO WIN ASYLUM THAN THOSE

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WHO AWAIT TRIAL ON THE OUTSIDE.

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HOMERO LOPEZ'S CLIENTS ARE AMONG

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THE LUCKY FEW WHO HAVE LEGAL

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REPRESENTATION.

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>><i>BUENOS DIAS, DIXAN.</i>

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<i>COMO ESTAS?</i>

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>> Reporter: ON THIS DAY, LOPEZ

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IS MEETING WITH DIXAN HERNANDEZ

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NARANJO VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.

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NOT ALL DETENTION CENTERS ALLOW

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THE PRACTICE.

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THEY'RE TRYING TO PREPARE FOR

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THE TOUGH QUESTIONING HERNANDEZ

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WILL FACE IN AN ASYLUM HEARING

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THE NEXT DAY.

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>><i>LE MENTISTE A ICE?</i>

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>> NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

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>> Reporter: IN HIS NATIVE CUBA,

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HERNANDEZ WAS A TOUR GUIDE.

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HE SAYS GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS

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ACCUSED HIM OF SPEAKING

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UNPATRIOTICALLY TO TOURISTS AND

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JAILED HIM REPEATEDLY FOR WHAT

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HE CALLS "THOUGHT CRIMES."

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WHILE IN ICE DETENTION AT PINE

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PRAIRIE, HERNANDEZ PARTICIPATED

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IN A HUNGER STRIKE.

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HE SAYS HE AND HIS FELLOW

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PROTESTERS WERE BEING UNFAIRLY

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INCARCERATED.

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>> (<i>translated</i>): WE ARE NOT

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CRIMINALS.

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WE JUST SIMPLY WANT TO FIGHT FOR

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OUR RIGHTS, LIKE ANYBODY WHO

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COMES TO SEEK ASYLUM.

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>> Reporter: HE WAS PLACED IN

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SOLITARY CONFINEMENT FOR HIS

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PARTICIPATION AND MISSED A

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MEETING WITH LOPEZ.

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NOW, THEY ARE HAVING ONE LAST

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SESSION BEFORE THE HEARING.

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THE NEXT MORNING, LOPEZ MAKES A

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THREE-AND-A-HALF-HOUR DRIVE TO

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OAKDALE, A SMALL TOWN IN CENTRAL

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LOUISIANA WHICH IS MOSTLY

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COMPRISED OF A STRIP OF CHAIN

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STORES.

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TUCKED INSIDE A FEDERAL

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CORRECTIONAL COMPLEX IS THE

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NONDESCRIPT OAKDALE IMMIGRATION

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COURT.

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IT HANDLES ALL CASES FOR

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MIGRANTS DETAINED AT PINE

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PRAIRIE.

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LOPEZ IS HERE TO PRESENT

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HERNANDEZ'’S ASYLUM CASE.

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HE'S HOPEFUL, BUT HE KNOWS THE

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ODDS ARE NOT IN HIS CLIENT'S

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FAVOR.

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>> OUR JUDGES HAVE A VERY LOW

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APPROVAL RATE FOR RELIEF FOR

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ASYLUM, IN PARTICULAR, AND WE

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JUST DON'T SEE A LOT OF WINS,

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UNFORTUNATELY.

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>> Reporter: FROM 2013 TO 2018,

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JUDGES AT THIS COURT DENIED

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ASYLUM NEARLY 90% OF THE TIME.

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BUT LOPEZ AND HIS LAW PARTNER,

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AL PAGE, HAVE BEATEN THE ODDS

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LATELY.

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THEY WON FIVE OUT OF EIGHT

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ASYLUM CASES WHILE WE WERE IN

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LOUISIANA.

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AMONG THE WINS: DIXAN HERNDANDEZ

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NARANJO.

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WE CAUGHT UP WITH HIM AT THE BUS

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STATION IN NEW ORLEANS SHORTLY

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AFTER HE WAS RELEASED FROM

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DETENTION.

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HERNANDEZ SAYS HE'S GRATEFUL TO

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BE OUT IN WHAT HE CALLS "A

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COUNTRY WITH FREEDOM," BUT HE

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SAYS THE TREATMENT HE RECEIVED

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IN DETENTION, ESPECIALLY IN

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SOLITARY CONFINEMENT, WAS NOT

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WHAT HE EXPECTED IN THE UNITED

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STATES.

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>> I HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE

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WHEN I'VE BEEN IN THE HOLE, WAS

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LIKE THE SAME EXPERIENCE WHEN

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I'M IN THE HOLE IN CUBA.

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MAYBE MORE DANGEROUS THAN CUBA.

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>> Reporter: JAMAL JAMAL AND

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CRISTIAN DELEON REMAIN IN ICE

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DETENTION.

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A JUDGE RECENTLY DENIED JAMAL'S

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APPLICATION FOR ASYLUM.

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HE DECIDED TO APPEAL THE

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DECISION RATHER THAN BE DEPORTED

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IMMEDIATELY.

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DELEON HAS FALLEN ILL AND IS

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BEING TESTED FOR A HEART

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CONDITION.
