WEBVTT 00:01.966 --> 00:05.000 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Photos, videos, objects, sounds, and light, the myriad stuff, 00:07.000 --> 00:09.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% both real and virtual, in our daily lives, it's all the material for Sarah Sze, 00:09.933 --> 00:13.800 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% an artist who takes this information overload and gives it a new shape. 00:13.800 --> 00:17.933 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% Jeffrey Brown takes a look for our arts and culture series, Canvas. 00:17.933 --> 00:22.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: At New York's Guggenheim Museum right now, 00:22.366 --> 00:27.366 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% you can walk around and into an artwork by Sarah Sze and be taken by more than a few surprises. 00:29.400 --> 00:31.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Is this your studio ladder? 00:31.033 --> 00:33.000 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% SARAH SZE, Artist: I know. I didn't -- that wasn't on purpose, 00:33.000 --> 00:34.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but I didn't peel it off. We didn't have time. 00:34.633 --> 00:38.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: Oh, so, studio ladder, pliers, house plant. 00:38.133 --> 00:39.800 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% SARAH SZE: Yes. Yes. Yes. JEFFREY BROWN: I mean, I can just go on and on. 00:39.800 --> 00:41.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% SARAH SZE: Yes. Yes. 00:41.233 --> 00:42.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: But anything goes, in a sense? 00:42.766 --> 00:45.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SARAH SZE: So, anything goes, but everything is necessary. 00:45.066 --> 00:50.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: In art terms, these works or installations or sculptures. More colorfully, 00:52.566 --> 00:55.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% some have seen an exploded hardware store or the contents of an iPhone spilled out into space, 00:57.233 --> 01:00.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% all the millions of images in our lives turned into objects, 01:00.766 --> 01:05.433 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% pieces of constructions that may hold together, but may break apart. 01:05.433 --> 01:10.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% SARAH SZE: I like dismantling the artwork and having it seep into the architecture, 01:12.333 --> 01:16.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the audience seep into each other. So these boundaries, these frames, 01:16.366 --> 01:19.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% they get blurred, because I think that's the way we're experiencing life. 01:21.633 --> 01:24.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% We can walk down the street and watch a movie. So, we're looking up at the sky, 01:24.333 --> 01:28.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and then we're looking down and then we're seeing a person. And so that intersection 01:30.333 --> 01:33.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of the way we experience time, the way we experience space is changing. And I'm 01:33.900 --> 01:38.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% interested in how we mark what is important, what is meaningful with this new language. 01:41.200 --> 01:44.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: The exhibition is titled Timelapse. And, in some works, like one called Timekeeper, 01:46.366 --> 01:50.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the references to marking time are over, a metronome, clocks in different cities 01:52.600 --> 01:56.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% set amid a kind of giant science experiment of objects, small projectors, videos, sounds, lights. 01:59.466 --> 02:04.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% There's a different way to experience time in Times Zero, a large abstract painting, 02:06.866 --> 02:11.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and a strange mirror version of it cut into pieces and reassembled beneath the original. Everywhere 02:13.566 --> 02:17.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% you turn in her work, images of images, it might be on our screens, on our walks, or in our heads. 02:19.766 --> 02:24.000 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% SARAH SZE: The number of images that are around us is -- becomes -- the volume on that is turned 02:24.000 --> 02:27.933 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% so high that the images that are in our head, which happen while we're dreaming, while we're 02:27.933 --> 02:32.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% imagining what we're hoping, when I look at you, I can picture like seeing you on television. 02:32.133 --> 02:37.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% That's in my head. So I'm seeing these images at the same time. Interior images are being merged 02:39.633 --> 02:42.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% all the time with exterior images. So that's something I'm interested in people thinking about. 02:44.700 --> 02:47.933 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% JEFFREY BROWN: Sze, now 54, grew up in Boston, her Chinese-born father an architect, 02:50.266 --> 02:53.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% her mother a schoolteacher. She's received a MacArthur fellowship, represented the U.S. at 02:55.700 --> 02:59.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the 2013 Venice Biennale, completed major commissions in public spaces such as New 03:01.500 --> 03:05.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% York's La Guardia Airport and High Line Park, and is exhibited in museums around the world. 03:07.533 --> 03:11.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% At the Guggenheim, she's created site-specific works that play off and with Frank Lloyd 03:13.266 --> 03:18.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Wright's landmark architectural spiral, the curved bays where art is exhibited, 03:19.533 --> 03:22.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and the sloping ramps that can disorient viewers. 03:22.133 --> 03:27.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% SARAH SZE: You can see actually how off-balance we are. Usually, things like this would be covered 03:29.133 --> 03:31.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% up in the museum, but I wanted you to really see like this is the first step to leveling a 03:31.300 --> 03:35.733 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% piece. So you can really understand that even your body is always at an angle at this space. 03:35.733 --> 03:40.100 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% JEFFREY BROWN: And then, when you move around - - and so we see the -- we see the construction. 03:40.100 --> 03:43.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SARAH SZE: Exactly. It's not hidden. Nothing is hidden. 03:43.033 --> 03:48.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: She's also offered new sight lines of the spectacular oculus at the top of the dome, 03:49.633 --> 03:53.100 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% and hung a pendulum that descends to a small fountain in the atrium. 03:55.066 --> 03:57.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And she's filled the space with everyday objects, including appliances, 03:57.933 --> 04:02.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% materials you're more likely to find at Home Depot or in your own home than in a museum. 04:04.733 --> 04:08.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% SARAH SZE: I think of material as a palette, a palette of daily life, and... 04:09.966 --> 04:12.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% JEFFREY BROWN: A palette of daily life. 04:12.033 --> 04:14.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% SARAH SZE: I'm interested in the line being blurred between what's outside 04:14.866 --> 04:19.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the museum and in the museum. So you start to see the artistry in the world. 04:19.100 --> 04:21.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: So why do you like that? I mean, why are you seeking that? 04:21.633 --> 04:24.466 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% SARAH SZE: I think it's the way we experience life. There isn't a 04:24.466 --> 04:29.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% boundary. It isn't framed, to marry the everyday experience with the profound. 04:31.400 --> 04:34.566 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% So, for me, many things, I'm interested in having something very profound happening 04:36.533 --> 04:39.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% next to something very, very, very mundane. So you can look up and see a volcano go, 04:42.166 --> 04:45.400 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and then you can look down and you can just see a piece of paint on the floor, 04:45.400 --> 04:49.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and that you should shift between those things,because I do you think a lot of 04:49.500 --> 04:54.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% our moments of profundity or moments of joy come at times we least expect. 04:56.433 --> 04:58.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: I mean, the other obvious question is, how do you know when it's finished? 04:58.833 --> 05:00.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% SARAH SZE: Right. 05:00.366 --> 05:02.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: How do you know when you're done? 05:02.400 --> 05:05.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% SARAH SZE: For me, when it's done is when it's right at the edge of feeling like 05:05.433 --> 05:10.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% it's coming together, but it could also fall apart. It's this teetering moment of change. 05:10.200 --> 05:15.100 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% We're always in that moment, right? We're somewhere in between. We have -- time is finite 05:15.100 --> 05:20.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for us. We know that. And to highlight, to make that moment of presence really powerful as you 05:22.566 --> 05:27.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% stand in front of something is, I think -- is, for me, what -- why I am so interested in seeing art. 05:29.700 --> 05:34.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Artwork is always -- it's a time traveler. It's a capsule. It tells us what it means to 05:34.066 --> 05:39.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% be human both in the past, in the present, and potentially what it might be like in the future. 05:41.066 --> 05:43.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% JEFFREY BROWN: Sarah Sze's Timelapse exhibition is up through September 10. 05:43.833 --> 05:48.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% For the "PBS NewsHour," I'm Jeffrey Brown at the Guggenheim Museum in New York.