>> Sreenivasan: ON THIS EDITION

FOR SATURDAY, MAY 12: IRAQIS GO

TO THE POLLS FOR THE FIRST TIME

SINCE THE DEFEAT OF ISIS; IN OUR

SIGNATURE SEGMENT, MOTHERS

RAISING THEIR BABIES WHILE DOING

TIME IN PRISON; AND, WHAT'S

BEHIND THE DECISION OF MUSIC

STREAMING SERVICES TO STOP "HATE

CONTENT"?

 

NEXT ON PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND.

FROM THE TISCH WNET STUDIOS AT

LINCOLN CENTER IN NEW YORK,

HARI SREENIVASAN.

>> Sreenivasan: GOOD EVENING,

AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.

WITH THE U.S.-NORTH KOREA SUMMIT

NOW SET FOR JUNE 12 IN

SINGAPORE, NORTH KOREA SAYS IT

WILL DESTROY AN UNDERGROUND

NUCLEAR TEST SITE LESS THAN TWO

WEEKS FROM NOW, AND WILL INVITE

JOURNALISTS AS WITNESSES.

NORTH KOREA'S FOREIGN MINISTRY

SAID TUNNELS AT THE SITE WILL BE

BLOWN UP SOME TIME BETWEEN MAY

23 AND 25, DEPENDING ON WEATHER

CONDITIONS.

RESEARCH FACILITIES WILL ALSO BE

DESTROYED.

NORTH KOREA SAID IT WOULD INVITE

AND ESCORT JOURNALISTS FROM FIVE

COUNTRIES-- THE UNITED STATES,

SOUTH KOREA, CHINA, RUSSIA AND

BRITAIN-- TO COVER THE EVENT.

THERE WAS NO MENTION OF ALLOWING

WEAPONS INSPECTORS OR NUCLEAR

EXPERTS AT THE SITE.

PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LAWYER, RUDY

GIULIANI, IS WALKING BACK HIS

STATEMENT THAT THE PRESIDENT

"DENIED THE MERGER" OF AT&T AND

TIME WARNER.

THIS MORNING, CNN REPORTED THAT

GIULIANI NOW SAYS THAT THE

PRESIDENT "DIDN'T INTERFERE" IN

THE PROPOSED $85 BILLION MERGER.

IN AN INTERVIEW YESTERDAY WITH

THE "HUFFINGTON POST" THAT

FOCUSED ON PAYMENTS, THE

PRESIDENT'S LONG-TIME PERSONAL

LAWYER MICHAEL COHEN RECEIVED

FROM CORPORATIONS INCLUDING

AT&T, GIULIANI SAID, "THE

PRESIDENT DENIED THE MERGER.

THEY DIDN'T GET THE RESULT THEY

WANTED."

COHEN RECEIVED $600,000 FROM

AT&T FOR ADVICE, A PAYMENT

AT&T'S C.E.O. CALLED A "BIG

MISTAKE."

OKLAHOMA GOVERNOR MARY FALLIN,

A REPUBLICAN, VETOED A

CONTROVERSIAL GUN RIGHTS BILL

LATE LAST NIGHT AND SIGNED

ANOTHER ON FAITH-BASED ADOPTION

SERVICES.

FALLIN VETOED A BILL THAT WOULD

HAVE ALLOWED ADULTS TO CARRY

FIREARMS WITHOUT A PERMIT OR

TRAINING, ANGERING THE NATIONAL

RIFLE ASSOCIATION BUT PLEASING

THE STATE BUREAU OF

INVESTIGATION.

THE GOVERNOR SIGNED A LAW THAT

PROTECTS FAITH-BASED

ORGANIZATIONS THAT REFUSE TO

PLACE CHILDREN IN L.G.B.T.Q.

HOMES.

FREEDOM OKLAHOMA, AN L.G.B.T.Q.

RIGHTS GROUP, IS THREATENING TO

SUE THE STATE OVER THE MEASURE.

THE KILAUEA VOLCANO ON HAWAII'S

BIG ISLAND IS STILL ERUPTING,

AND NOW THERE ARE NEW CONCERNS

ABOUT WHAT COMES NEXT.

SCIENTISTS ARE WARNING THAT LAVA

LEVELS INSIDE THE VOLCANO MAY

DROP BELOW THE WATER TABLE,

WHICH COULD CREATE A VOLCANIC

STEAM-DRIVEN ERUPTION.

HAWAII CIVIL DEFENSE OFFICIALS

SAY THAT COULD SEND BOULDERS AS

LARGE AS REFRIGERATORS HALF A

MILE INTO THE AIR ALONG WITH

20,000-FOOT ASH PLUMES.

THE HAWAII NATIONAL GUARD SAYS

IT IS PREPARED TO RESCUE SOME

2,000 PEOPLE BY CONVOY, TROOP

 

VEHICLES OR HELICOPTER.

>> Sreenivasan: IRAQ HELD A

NATIONAL ELECTION TODAY, THE

FIRST SINCE PRIME MINISTER

HAIDER AL-ABADI DECLARED VICTORY

OVER THE ISLAMIC STATE IN

DECEMBER.

RESULTS ARE EXPECTED WITHIN THE

NEXT TWO DAYS, BUT IT WILL

LIKELY BE MONTHS BEFORE A PRIME

MINISTER IS CHOSEN AND A NEW

GOVERNMENT IS FORMED.

FOR SOME ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S AT

STAKE, I'M JOINED VIA SKYPE FROM

BAGHDAD BY "NEW YORK TIMES"

BUREAU CHIEF MARGARET COKER.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

SO, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE

HAVEN'T SEEN ANY WIDESPREAD

VIOLENCE OR ATTACKS, SOMETHING

THE COUNTRY WAS CONCERNED ABOUT

FOR TODAY.

>> RIGHT.

IT'S REALLY AMAZING, ACTUALLY.

IN 2014, A THIRD OF THE NATION

HAD BEEN OVERRUN BY ISLAMIC

STATE.

PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE

END OF IRAQ.

AND NOW, WE'VE HAD A NATIONAL

ELECTION, ALMOST NO VIOLENCE, A

FEW IRREGULARITIES, BUT PEOPLE

WERE PRETTY FREE TO COME AND...

AND VOTE AS THEY CHOSE.

>> Sreenivasan: WHAT DID YOU

OR YOUR REPORTERS SEE AT THE

POLLING STATIONS TODAY?

>> WELL, I WAS IN BAGHDAD.

I WENT AROUND THE BIG CAPITAL

CITY TO FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT

POLLING STATIONS IN DIFFERENT

PARTS OF THE CITY, AND TURNOUT

WAS VERY LOW.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GENERAL MOOD

HERE OF JUST UTTER EXHAUSTION.

THERE WAS ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF

BATTLE, A LOT OF SACRIFICE, A

LOT OF LIVES LOST OVER THE LAST

THREE AND A HALF YEARS.

PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTED.

AND SECURITY IS SO GOOD NOW THAT

EVERYONE IS CONCERNED AGAIN WITH

QUALITY-OF-LIFE ISSUES-- A LACK

OF INFRASTRUCTURE, A LACK OF

SCHOOLS, A LACK OF JOBS.

AND SO, YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE

ROUTINE PROBLEMS THAT APPEAR

OVERWHELMING, BUT, ALSO, THERE'S

A LACK OF TRUST IN THE POLITICAL

LEADERSHIP ABOUT HOW THESE

THINGS CAN GET SOLVED.

SO, THE MOOD ON THE STREET IS...

IS PRETTY SUBDUED.

>> Sreenivasan: LET'S TALK A

LITTLE BIT ABOUT KIND OF THE...

THE BIGGER PICTURE, THINGS THAT

ARE HAPPENING IN THE BACKGROUND

HERE.

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF PERHAPS IRAN

IN... IN THE INFLUENCE THAT IRAN

WIELDS IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW, OR HOW

LONG THE UNITED STATES WILL STAY

IN IRAQ AND IN KIND OF WHAT

CAPACITY?

>> YEAH, SO, ONE OF THE AMAZING

THINGS ABOUT LAST FALL AND INTO

THE WINTER WHEN IRAQ DECLARED

VICTORY OVER ISLAMIC STATE,

THERE'S THIS TREMENDOUS SURGE OF

PATRIOTISM AND NATIONALISM.

PEOPLE ARE PROUD AGAIN TO BE

IRAQIS, AND THERE'S QUITE A LOT

OF BREATHING SPACE RIGHT NOW FOR

IRAQI NATIONALISTS TO COME TO

THE FORE.

I MEAN, PEOPLE WHO EITHER PULLED

ONE WAY TOWARDS IRAN OR PULLED

ONE WAY TOWARDS AMERICA TEN

YEARS AGO ARE NOW TRYING TO

REPOSITION THEMSELVES

POLITICALLY AS BEING

NATIONALISTS FIRST AND IN THE

MIDDLE OF THE POLITICAL

SPECTRUM.

AND THERE'S A VERY, VERY STRONG

SENSE AMONG THE IRAQI

POPULATION THAT SECTARIANISM--

WHICH THEY BLAME A LOT FOR ALL

OF THE BLOODSHED THAT HAS

BEFALLEN IRAQ OVER THE LAST

DECADE-- THEY SAY THAT THE ERA

OF SECTARIANISM IS OVER.

AND SO, WHAT THAT MEANS IN A

CODED FASHION IS THAT POLITICAL

PARTIES THAT LOOK TOO CLOSE TO

IRAN OR TOO CLOSE TO ANY OTHER

OF THE REGIONAL POWERS, THEY'RE

NOT GOING TO DO WELL IN THESE

POLLS.

>> Sreenivasan: ALL RIGHT,

MARGARET COKER, "NEW YORK TIMES"

BUREAU CHIEF, JOINING US VIA

SKYPE FROM BAGHDAD TONIGHT.

THANKS SO MUCH.

 

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> Sreenivasan: WHEN A PREGNANT

WOMAN GOES TO PRISON, MOST OFTEN

SHE HAS TO GIVE UP HER BABY TO A

RELATIVE OR ANOTHER CAREGIVER

UNTIL SHE FINISHES SERVING HER

SENTENCE.

TONIGHT, IN THE FIRST OF A TWO-

PART REPORT ABOUT CHILDREN WHOSE

PARENTS ARE INCARCERATED,

NEWSHOUR WEEKEND'S MEGAN

THOMPSON HAS THE STORY OF AN

INNOVATIVE PRISON PROGRAM THAT

ALLOWS MOTHER AND CHILD TO STAY

 

TOGETHER BEHIND BARS.

>> Reporter: BRENDA SINGER IS

SERVING TWO YEARS AT THE INDIANA

WOMEN'S PRISON IN INDIANAPOLIS

FOR OPIOID POSSESSION AND

FAILING TO SHOW UP AT A WORK

RELEASE PROGRAM.

WHEN SHE ARRIVED HERE IN

JANUARY, SHE WAS ALMOST NINE

MONTHS PREGNANT.

IT MEANT SHE'D GIVE BIRTH BEHIND

BARS AND POSSIBLY BE SEPARATED

FROM HER BABY JUST HOURS LATER.

>> I WAS SCARED.

I WAS REALLY WORRIED.

I WOULD HAVE HAD A LITTLE UNDER

24 HOURS WITH HER.

BUT THAT'S... THAT WOULD HAVE

BEEN JUST, LIKE, HAVING HER AND

PUSHING HER AWAY.

>> Reporter: BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT

HAPPENED.

TWO WEEKS AFTER GETTING HERE,

SINGER GAVE BIRTH TO HER

DAUGHTER, DORIS.

LITTLE DORIS NOW LIVES HERE IN

THE PRISON WITH HER MOTHER, IN A

SPECIAL UNIT CALLED THE "WEE

 

ONES' NURSERY."

>> SHE'S AMAZING.

FIRST SMILE BREAKS YOUR HEART.

( LAUGHS )

JUST MELT, YOU KNOW?

>> Reporter: AND YOU GOT TO SEE

IT.

>> YEAH.

THANKS TO WEE ONES.

>> SO, TODAY, DORIS HAS AN

APPOINTMENT AT 9:00 A.M.

>> OKAY.

>> I JUST WANT TO GO OVER

EVERYTHING.

>> Reporter: LEAH HESSION IS THE

NURSERY'S DIRECTOR.

>> WEE ONES WAS STARTED IN APRIL

OF 2008 AS A WAY FOR PREGNANT

LOW-LEVEL OFFENDERS TO BE ABLE

TO KEEP THEIR CHILDREN AFTER...

AFTER DELIVERY WHILE THE

MOTHER'S STILL INCARCERATED.

>> Reporter: THE UNITED STATES

PUTS MORE FEMALES IN PRISON THAN

ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD,

AND THE MAJORITY OF INCARCERATED

WOMEN ARE MOTHERS.

BUT PRISON NURSERIES ARE RARE;

THERE ARE ONLY EIGHT IN THE

COUNTRY.

FOR SOME PEOPLE WATCHING THIS,

IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT

SURPRISING TO SEE BABIES IN A

PRISON.

IS IT GOOD FOR A BABY TO BE

LIVING IN A PRISON?

>> I THINK SO.

THESE ARE INFANTS.

THESE ARE BABIES WHO ARE MONTHS

OLD, WHO JUST WANT TO BE HELD

AND NURSED AND LOVED BY THEIR

MOTHERS.

AND... AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE

ABLE TO PROVIDE IN A SAFE

ENVIRONMENT.

>> Reporter: THE NURSERY IS

HOUSED IN ITS OWN DORMITORY,

WHERE MOTHERS LIVE SEPARATED

FROM THE NEARLY 600 OTHER

PRISONERS.

>> SO, THIS IS ONE OF OUR

MOTHER'S ROOMS.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IT ONLY HAS

ONE BED.

A TYPICAL OFFENDER ROOM'S GOING

TO HAVE A BUNK BED, SO IT'LL BE

TWO OFFENDERS TO A ROOM.

WITH OUR MOTHER'S ROOM, WE ONLY

HAVE ONE BED AND ROOM FOR THE

CRIB, SO IT GIVES THE MOTHER AND

CHILD TIME TO BOND.

>> Reporter: WHEN WE VISITED,

THERE WERE FOUR BABIES IN THE

NURSERY.

THERE'S ROOM FOR UP TO TEN.

PREGNANT PRISONERS CAN LIVE

HERE, TOO.

>> OVER HERE, THIS IS ALSO A

NURSERY.

THIS NURSERY DOES HAVE A

TELEVISION IN IT.

IT'S GOT TWO OF THE ELECTRIC

SWINGS, SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE...

LITTLE MORE POPULAR.

BUT THIS HERE IS OUR SUPPLY

CLOSET.

>> Reporter: OFFICIALS SAY THE

WEE ONES' NURSERY IS FUNDED

ENTIRELY BY PRIVATE DONATIONS

AND GRANTS, INCLUDING ALL THE

DIAPERS AND WIPES.

>> WE HAVE TWO CLOSETS.

WE HAVE A BOYS' CLOSET AND A

GIRLS' CLOSET.

>> Reporter: SAME GOES FOR THE

BABY CLOTHES.

MOST OF THEM ARE DONATED AND

THEN REUSED.

>> THE MOTHERS ARE ABLE TO COME

AND EXCHANGE CLOTHES EVERY OTHER

WEEK JUST AS THEIR CHILD GROWS

SO MUCH IN THE FIRST YEAR.

>> LUNCH!

>> Reporter: TO LIVE HERE, WOMEN

MUST BE LOW-LEVEL OFFENDERS WITH

ZERO HISTORY OF VIOLENCE.

AND THEIR SENTENCES MUST BE

RELATIVELY SHORT SO THEY'LL BE

RELEASED BY THE TIME THEIR CHILD

TURNS TWO.

>> I GOT SOME WOMEN WHO NEED TO

GO...

>> Reporter: THE STAKES ARE

HIGH.

IF THEY BREAK THE RULES, THEY

COULD GET KICKED OUT.

>> WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS FROM

ROOM INSPECTIONS TO CLASSES AND

THINGS LIKE THAT THAT SHE MUST

COMPLETE.

SHE'S GOING TO HAVE A POSITIVE

ATTITUDE AND A WILLINGNESS TO

CHANGE HER LIFE.

>> I HATE BEING ON DRUGS.

I HATE THAT LIFE.

BUT I CAN'T LET IT HOLD ON TO ME

BECAUSE I'M READY TO MOVE

FORWARD.

I'M READY TO BE A BETTER PERSON.

I'M READY TO BE A BETTER MOM

MORE THAN ANYTHING.

WHAT IS THAT?

>> Reporter: 28-YEAR-OLD JAMIE

BEAM HAS BATTLED ADDICTION SINCE

SHE WAS 14 YEARS OLD.

SHE SAYS HER DRUG OF CHOICE IS

METHAMPHETAMINE.

SHE WAS CONVICTED LAST YEAR OF

BURGLARY AND OF ILLEGAL

POSSESSION OF A FIREARM.

WHEN SHE WAS LOCKED UP LAST

SUMMER, SHE WAS ABOUT FIVE

MONTHS PREGNANT.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD

BE.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN,

WHO... WHO SHE'D BE WITH.

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ANSWERS, AND I

WAS VERY SCARED.

THERE YOU GO.

ALL BETTER NOW.

>> Reporter: KHLOE WAS BORN IN

DECEMBER.

>> SHE IS SUCH A HAPPY BABY.

SHE'S FULL OF SMILES.

JUST VERY HAPPY.

AND I'M SO GLAD THAT I DIDN'T

HAVE TO MISS OUT ON THAT.

>> Reporter: BEAM HAS RAISED TWO

OTHER YOUNG DAUGHTERS WHO ARE

NOW LIVING WITH THEIR DAD IN

MICHIGAN.

>> IT'S OKAY.

( LAUGHS )

>> Reporter: IN HERE, SOBER,

BEAM FEELS SHE'S ABLE TO FOCUS

MORE ON KHLOE THAN SHE WAS WITH

HER OTHER CHILDREN.

>> OH, I DO, BUNNY, BUNNY,

BUNNY.

I NOTICE A LOT MORE PARENTING,

YOU KNOW, THINGS THAN I DID WITH

MY OTHER GIRLS JUST BECAUSE

BEING ON THE... THE OUTSIDE,

THERE'S DISTRACTIONS.

THERE'S COMING AND GOING, YOU

KNOW, VERSUS ME AND KHLOE WHERE

IT'S JUST, LIKE, ONE ON ONE, ALL

THE TIME, EVERY DAY.

YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO SHOW HER

SHE'S GOT A MOM WHO LOVES HER

AND IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF HER

AND BE THERE FOR HER.

I... I DON'T KNOW IF LATER IN

THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, IF WE

DIDN'T HAVE THIS BOND, WHERE OUR

RELATIONSHIP WOULD BE.

BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THAT'S...

THAT BOND IS GOING TO BE HOW HER

WHOLE LIFE MIGHT TURN OUT.

SOUNDS CRAZY, BUT, YEAH.

>> Reporter: ANGELA TOMLIN SAYS

THAT'S NOT CRAZY AT ALL.

SHE'S A PSYCHOLOGIST AND EXPERT

IN EARLY CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT

AT THE INDIANA UNIVERSITY SCHOOL

OF MEDICINE.

>> IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR

KIDS TO HAVE THAT EARLY

ATTACHMENT TO THEIR PARENTS.

>> Reporter: TOMLIN NOTES THAT

THE BRAINS OF INFANTS ARE STILL

DEVELOPING, AND BABIES NEED

CERTAIN SOCIAL EXPERIENCES TO

HELP THEIR BRAINS FORM.

>> AND THAT SOCIAL EXPERIENCE

THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PARENT.

SO, WE NEED, OVER AND OVER

AGAIN, DAY TO DAY, MOMENT-BY-

MOMENT EXPERIENCES OF HAVING

THE PARENT SEE THE BABY,

UNDERSTAND THE BABY'S NEED AND

FULFILL IT OVER TIME.

AND WHAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT

HAPPENS THROUGH THAT PROCESS IS

THAT THE CHILD COMES TO KNOW IN,

LIKE, A REAL WAY THAT THEY ARE

PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND PHYSICALLY

SAFE.

AND THAT SENSE OF SAFETY OR

TRUST IS WHAT WE THINK OF WHEN

WE THINK OF AS A SECURE

ATTACHMENT.

THAT SECURE ATTACHMENT HAS SO

MANY BENEFITS DOWN THE ROAD--

DOING WELL IN SCHOOL, GETTING

ALONG WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND

REALLY GROWING UP TO BE A

SENSITIVE PARENT THEMSELVES.

>> Reporter: RESEARCHERS AT

COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY COMPARED

BABIES WHO LIVED IN PRISON

NURSERIES TO THOSE RAISED BY

MOTHERS OUTSIDE WITH SIMILAR

RISK FACTORS LIKE DRUG

ADDICTION.

THEY FOUND THAT A LARGER NUMBER

OF THE PRISON-NURSERY BABIES

DEVELOPED SECURE ATTACHMENTS.

ANOTHER COLUMBIA STUDY FOUND

THESE CHILDREN WERE LESS ANXIOUS

AND LESS DEPRESSED ONCE THEY GOT

TO PRESCHOOL COMPARED TO BABIES

WHO'D BEEN SEPARATED FROM THEIR

INCARCERATED MOMS.

AND MOST CHILDREN ARE SEPARATED.

ALL THE MOMS IN THE WEE ONES'

NURSERY AND OF MOST THE OTHER

INMATES HERE HAVE OLDER KIDS

THEY HAD TO LEAVE BEHIND.

>> ANY TIME A CHILD IS SEPARATED

FROM THEIR PARENT, THAT HAS THE

POTENTIAL TO BE EXPERIENCED AS A

TRAUMA.

>> Reporter: TOMLIN SAYS IT CAN

BE ESPECIALLY TRAUMATIC FOR

CHILDREN WHEN A MOTHER GOES TO

PRISON BECAUSE SHE'S USUALLY THE

PRIMARY CAREGIVER.

>> SO, IF DAD GOES TO PRISON,

MOM OFTEN IS STILL THERE FOR THE

CHILD.

WHEN MOM GOES TO PRISON, A LOT

OF TIMES IT'S NOT THE DAD WHO'S

AVAILABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THE

CHILD.

IT MAY BE ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER.

THE CHILD MAY BE IN A FOSTER

CARE SITUATION.

>> Reporter: WHILE KIDS CAN

DEVELOP SECURE ATTACHMENTS TO

OTHER CAREGIVERS, LIKE

GRANDPARENTS, REGULAR VISITS TO

THEIR MOTHERS IN PRISON CAN

HELP, TOO.

>> EVERY TIME HE COMES DOWN

HERE, THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS, IS

THE DINOSAURS.

>> Reporter: THE INDIANA WOMEN'S

PRISON "FAMILY PRESERVATION

PROGRAM" HAS A HUGE PLAY AREA

WHERE VISITING KIDS CAN RUN

FREE.

>> I PERSONALLY PRETTY MUCH JUST

PRETEND LIKE IT'S HOME.

>> Reporter: JESSICA INHOLT

DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE WEE ONES'

NURSERY BECAUSE HER SENTENCE FOR

DEALING HEROIN WAS TOO LONG.

BUT HER MOM FAITHFULLY BRINGS

HER TWO-YEAR-OLD SON, TRIPP, TO

VISIT EVERY WEEKEND.

>> YOU KNOW, I SET SNACKS OUT

FOR HIM AND MAKE SURE HE'S NOT

GOING TO HURT HIMSELF PLAYING

AROUND.

BEING A FIRST-TIME MOM AND BEING

IN PRISON, I JUST TRY AND DO THE

BEST THAT I CAN TO LEARN HOW TO

BE A MOM WHILE I'M HERE, SO...

>> Reporter: PLAY ROOMS LIKE

THIS ONE GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS

HELPING MOMS DEVELOP AND

MAINTAIN RELATIONSHIPS WITH

THEIR CHILDREN, SAYS ANGELA

TOMLIN, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO

TYPICAL PRISON VISITING ROOMS

WHERE PRISONERS OFTEN CAN'T HOLD

THEIR CHILDREN OR EVEN MIGHT BE

SITTING BEHIND GLASS.

>> THE CHILD NEEDS TO SEE THE

PARENT AS A CAREGIVER.

SO, WE NEED AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE

THE CHILD CAN BEHAVE IN A

TYPICAL WAY, AND THE PARENT CAN

HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO

THE CHILD IN A TYPICAL WAY.

>> HI, BABY!

>> Reporter: BACK IN THE WEE

ONES' NURSERY BRENDA SINGER

STAYS IN TOUCH WITH HER FIVE

OTHER CHILDREN WITH PHONE CALLS.

MOST OF THEM LIVE IN OHIO, TOO

FAR AWAY FOR REGULAR VISITS.

>> AW, YOU GOT A BELLY ACHE?

>> Reporter: SINGER, WHO'S BEEN

INCARCERATED AT LEAST FOUR TIMES

BEFORE, TRIES TO CALL EVERY DAY.

>> I HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER.

I DO WORRY ABOUT THEM HAVING

TRUST WITH ME.

MY OLDEST DAUGHTERS, I HAD QUITE

A BIT OF CONFRONTATION WITH THEM

BECAUSE THEY JUST FELT LIKE, YOU

KNOW, "WE'RE TIRED, MOM.

SO, EITHER GET IT RIGHT THIS

TIME OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU

KNOW, I... YOU'RE NOT GOING TO

BE MY MOM," PRETTY MUCH IS HOW I

GOT IT.

SO, IT HURTS THEM.

YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DO WE DO THE

TIME, BUT THEY DO.

SO, WE LET THEM DOWN.

I LET THEM DOWN, I SHOULD SAY.

>> Reporter: DOING TIME IN THE

NURSERY IS SUPPOSED TO GIVE MOMS

THE CHANCE TO TURN THINGS

AROUND, AND PROPONENTS OF THIS

PROGRAM SAY IT CAN HELP MAKE

THAT HAPPEN.

A 2013 STUDY BY THE UNIVERSITY

OF INDIANAPOLIS FOLLOWED WOMEN

WHO SPENT TIME IN THE WEE ONES'

NURSERY.

COMPARED TO WOMEN SEPARATED FROM

THEIR BABIES, THEY WERE ABOUT

HALF AS LIKELY TO RETURN TO

PRISON WITHIN THEIR FIRST YEAR

OF RELEASE.

TO MAKE SURE THE NEW MOMS CAN GO

TO THERAPY AND CLASSES, THERE'S

CHILDCARE PROVIDED BY OTHER,

LOW-LEVEL OFFENDERS WHO LIVE ON

THE UNIT, TOO.

WHILE HER BABY'S LOOKED AFTER,

JAMIE BEAM ATTENDS A COCAINE

ANONYMOUS GROUP, A 12-STEP

PROGRAM AND CULINARY ARTS

CLASSES.

THE PRISON ALSO OFFERS PRENATAL,

POSTNATAL AND PARENTING CLASSES.

>> BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF I

WEREN'T TO BE WITH HER, I'D

PROBABLY NOT BE ABLE TO WORK ON

MYSELF AS QUICK AS I HAVE BEEN,

JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE I WOULD

BE MISSING A VERY IMPORTANT TIME

OF KHLOE'S LIFE.

>> Reporter: BRENDA SINGER IS

GOING THROUGH A REHABILITATION

PROGRAM HERE, TOO.

YOU'VE BEEN INCARCERATED BEFORE.

>> RIGHT.

>> Reporter: IS THERE SOMETHING

ABOUT THIS TIME, THIS PLACE,

THIS STAY THAT MEANS YOU'RE

GOING TO TURN IT AROUND?

>> OH, YEAH.

I MISSED A LOT.

I'M GOING TO MISS MY GRANDSON'S

BIRTH, AND THAT TEARS ME UP.

BUT I MADE THOSE CHOICES.

SO, IF THIS WASN'T A SMACK IN

THE FACE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT

WOULD BE.

>> Reporter: WHEN DORIS IS

OLDER, WHEN SHE'S GROWN UP, WHAT

ARE YOU GOING TO TELL HER ABOUT

THIS CHAPTER OF HER LIFE?

>> THAT MOM... MOM LEARNED A LOT

JUST BY HAVING HER WITH ME.

SHE'S MY COACH.

AS I CALL HER, SHE'S MY BOSS

RIGHT NOW.

AND IT'S... IT'S GREAT BECAUSE I

NEED THAT.

I NEED THAT MENTALLY, TO BE

FIXATED ON WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE DRUGS.

IT'S NOT ABOUT PILLS OR, YOU

KNOW, ROLLING THE NEXT BLUNT OR

DRINKING MY NEXT DRINK.

IT'S ABOUT DORIS AT THE END OF

THE DAY AND ALL DAY.

IT'S ABOUT HER.

SO, I THINK THAT'S MENTALLY

MAKING ME FIT, YOU KNOW, FOR...

 

FOR THE OUTSIDE.

>> Sreenivasan: THIS WEEK, THE

MUSIC STREAMING SERVICE SPOTIFY

REMOVED R&B SINGER R. KELLY FROM

ITS PLAYLISTS, WHICH MEANS

FEWER LISTENERS WILL DISCOVER OR

HEAR HIS MUSIC.

WHY R. KELLY?

IN PART, BECAUSE OF THE ONLINE

CAMPAIGN #MuteRKelly.

THERE ARE DEMANDS FOR

INVESTIGATIONS INTO ALLEGATIONS

HE ABUSED WOMEN OF COLOR OVER

THE PAST 20 YEARS.

KELLY PERFORMED LAST NIGHT IN

NORTH CAROLINA.

THE SINGER IS NOT CURRENTLY

CHARGED WITH ANY CRIMES.

SPOTIFY CITED ITS NEW "HATE

CONTENT AND HATEFUL CONDUCT"

POLICY AS JUSTIFICATION, AND

OTHER STREAMING SERVICES HAVE

ALSO REMOVED R. KELLY FROM

PLAYLISTS, ALTHOUGH HIS MUSIC IS

STILL AVAILABLE ON THESE

PLATFORMS.

JOINING ME NOW IS JOAN SOLSMAN,

SENIOR REPORTER FOR "CNET," WHO

IS FOLLOWING THIS ISSUE.

THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A

CONVERSATION ABOUT R. KELLY,

BUT REALLY ABOUT THE... THE STEP

THAT SPOTIFY HAS TAKEN.

WHAT MAKES THIS SUCH A BIG DEAL?

>> WELL, FOR ONE, SPOTIFY IS THE

BIGGEST STREAMING MUSIC SERVICE

AT A TIME WHEN MUSIC STREAMING

IS BECOMING THE MOST POPULAR,

MOST COMMON WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE

LISTENING TO MUSIC.

SO, IT'S A STAKE IN THE GROUND,

A VERY DEFINITIVE STEP THAT IT

WILL MAKE EDITORIAL JUDGMENTS

ABOUT NOT ONLY THE CONTENT OF

MUSIC BUT THE CONDUCT OF THE

ARTIST ITSELF.

AND THOSE JUDGMENTS CAN HAVE

REAL REPERCUSSIONS ON ARTISTS'

LIVELIHOOD.

>> Sreenivasan: THERE'S A PART

OF THEIR POLICY THAT I WANT TO

PULL OUT.

IT SAYS, "WHAT ABOUT HATEFUL

CONDUCT BY AN ARTIST?"

 

IT SAYS:

THAT'S A PORTION OF THIS CONDUCT

POLICY THAT THEY CHANGED.

THAT SEEMS WELL AND GOOD, BUT

WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD FOR WHEN

IT'S DETERMINED THAT SOMEONE

ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING?

IF HE HASN'T BEEN CONVICTED OF A

CRIME, USUALLY YOU CAN SAY,

"WELL, THIS IS A CRIMINAL

CONVICTION.

A JURY OF YOUR PEERS HAVE FOUND

THAT YOU DID THIS WRONG."

THIS ISN'T THAT.

>> EXACTLY.

THAT'S WHY IT'S INTERESTING.

R. KELLY HASN'T HAD A CRIMINAL

CONVICTION.

HE'S NOT CHARGED WITH ANYTHING

RIGHT NOW.

AND THERE'S ANOTHER ARTIST THAT

THEY HAVE ALSO SAID AT THE SAME

TIME THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO

BE PROMOTING.

HE HASN'T BEEN CONVICTED OF ANY

CRIME, EITHER.

SO, WHAT IT DOES, EVEN THOUGH IT

MAKES A FIRM STAKE IN THE GROUND

THAT SPOTIFY IS WILLING TO EXERT

THIS EDITORIAL JUDGMENT, IT

MUDDIES THE WATERS ABOUT WHAT

THAT JUDGMENT IS AND HOW THEY'RE

GOING TO BE APPLYING IT.

>> Sreenivasan: AND WHAT KIND OF

REVENUE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT

WHEN... I MEAN, ON THE ONE HAND,

ARTISTS ALWAYS COMPLAIN THAT

THEY'RE GETTING SUCH LITTLE

MONEY FROM ROYALTY.

BUT IF YOU'RE NOT SOMEBODY WHO'S

LIKE R. KELLY AND WHO'S STILL

TOURING, HOW MUCH DOES SPOTIFY

ACTUALLY END UP HELPING YOUR

MUSIC?

>> SPOTIFY IS NOT CRITICAL, BUT

IT'S A CRUCIAL ELEMENT TO AN

ARTIST'S LIVELIHOOD, ESPECIALLY

AS CONSUMPTION OF MUSIC MIGRATES

OVER TO STREAMING RATHER THAN

GETTING AN iTUNES DOWNLOAD OR

BUYING A CD.

TOURING, OF COURSE, IS A GIANT

ELEMENT TO HOW... HOW ARTISTS

MAKE MONEY.

BUT THAT RECURRING REVENUE COMES

FROM, MORE OFTEN, STREAMING.

AND IN THE CASE OF SPOTIFY, IT'S

THE BIGGEST STREAMING

SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE.

AND ITS SUBSCRIPTIONS PAY A LOT

BETTER THAN IF YOU WERE TO

STREAM AN R. KELLY SONG ON

YOUTUBE AND JUST WATCH THE

VIDEO-- "WATCH THE VIDEO"-- BUT

LISTEN TO THE SONG.

THAT PAYS A LOT LESS THAN WHAT

YOU WOULD GET PAID AS AN ARTIST

IF A SUBSCRIBER LISTENS TO YOUR

MUSIC.

>> Sreenivasan: THERE'S A LONG

LIST OF ARTISTS WHOSE BEHAVIOR

WE HAVE EITHER TOLERATED OR SET

ASIDE TO ENJOY THEIR MUSIC,

RIGHT?

SO, WHAT IS THE... KIND OF HOW

FAR BACK DO THEY GO?

IS SPOTIFY WILLING TO PUT ALL OF

THESE DIFFERENT ARTISTS AND ALL

OF THAT MUSIC OFF OF THEIR

PLAYLISTS IF THAT'S THE STEP

THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE?

>> THESE POPULAR PLAYLISTS, THEY

CAN MAKE AND BREAK ARTISTS.

AND SO, IF SPOTIFY IS GOING TO

USE CONDUCT AS A DECISION-MAKING

TOOL IN WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT

TO PROMOTE AN ARTIST, THEN IT...

IT RAISES QUESTIONS ABOUT WILL

THE ARTISTS THAT BECOME HUGE BE

DIFFERENT?

WILL WE HAVE DIFFERENT ART

BECAUSE OF THESE DECISIONS.

>> Sreenivasan: ALL RIGHT.

THESE ARE ALL IMPORTANT

QUESTIONS.

JOAN SOLSMAN FROM CNET, THANKS

SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

 

>> THANK YOU.

>> Sreenivasan: FOR A LONGER

CONVERSATION ON MUSIC STREAMING

SERVICES AND "HATE CONTENT,"

VISIT OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AT

 

facebook.com/newshour.

>> THIS IS PBS NEWSHOUR WEEKEND,

 

SATURDAY.

>> Sreenivasan: A BRITISH-BASED

HUMAN RIGHTS GROUP SAYS THE

ISRAELI AIR STRIKES ON MILITARY

TARGETS IN SYRIA THIS WEEK

KILLED 42 PEOPLE, INCLUDING 19

IRANIANS.

ISRAEL SAID IT ATTACKED

SUSPECTED IRANIAN MILITARY

OUTPOSTS IN SYRIA IN RESPONSE TO

WHAT THEY SAY WAS A BARRAGE OF

IRANIAN ROCKETS LAUNCHED INTO

THE ISRAELI-OCCUPIED GOLAN

HEIGHTS THE DAY BEFORE.

GERMAN CHANCELLOR ANGELA MERKEL

VISITED THE BASILICA OF ST.

FRANCIS IN ASSISI, ITALY, TODAY,

WHERE SHE RECEIVED THE

FRANCISCAN ORDER'S "LAMP OF

PEACE" FOR HER WORK PROTECTING

SYRIAN WAR REFUGEES.

CHANCELLOR MERKEL CALLED THE

CIVIL WAR IN SYRIA "ONE OF THE

GREATEST HUMANITARIAN CRISES OF

OUR TIME" AND CALLED ON THE

INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TO HELP

END THE WAR.

SHE SAID PRESIDENT TRUMP'S

DECISION TO PULL OUT OF THE IRAN

NUCLEAR DEAL MAKES THE MIDDLE

EAST SITUATION "EVEN MORE

DIFFICULT."

IN YEMEN, OFFICIALS SAY AT LEAST

115 PEOPLE WERE KILLED OVER TWO

DAYS OF FIGHTING THIS WEEK IN

THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY.

AT LEAST FIVE CIVILIANS WERE

KILLED BY MISSILE STRIKES IN THE

NORTHWESTERN CITY OF SAADA ON

THURSDAY.

THIS CAME A DAY AFTER THE

HOUTHIS, WHO CONTROL MUCH OF

WESTERN YEMEN, INCLUDING THE

NATION'S CAPITAL, CLAIMED

RESPONSIBILITY FOR LAUNCHING

MISSILES AT SAUDI ARABIA'S

CAPITAL OF RIYADH.

THE IRAN-ALLIED HOUTHIS ARE

FIGHTING A U.S.-BACKED,

SAUDI-LED MILITARY COALITION

THAT SUPPORTS THE GOVERNMENT OF

YEMEN'S EXILED PRESIDENT.

A GUN AND MACHETE ATTACK IN THE

EAST AFRICAN NATION OF BURUNDI

HAS LEFT 26 PEOPLE DEAD AND

SEVEN OTHERS WOUNDED.

THE ATTACK HAPPENED LATE LAST

NIGHT IN A SMALL VILLAGE AND

COMES LESS THAN A WEEK BEFORE A

SCHEDULED REFERENDUM ON A

CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT THAT

WOULD EXTEND PRESIDENTIAL TERMS

FROM FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS.

OFFICIALS ARE NOT RULING OUT

VOTER INTIMIDATION IN LAST

NIGHT'S ASSAULT.

WHEN BURUNDI'S PRESIDENT, PIERRE

NKURUNZIZA, RAN FOR A THIRD TERM

IN 2015, HIS VICTORY WAS MET

WITH VIOLENT OPPOSITION.

A "YES" VOTE WOULD ALLOW

NKURUNZIZA TO RUN FOR TWO MORE

CONSECUTIVE TERMS, POSSIBLY

EXTENDING HIS RULE TO THE YEAR

 

2034.

>> Sreenivasan: AND A REMINDER

TO JOIN US ON PBS NEWSHOUR

WEEKEND SUNDAY FOR PART TWO OF

MEGAN THOMPSON'S REPORT FROM

INDIANA ON INCARCERATED PARENTS

AND THEIR CHILDREN.

TOMORROW, MENTORING THE KIDS

LEFT BEHIND WHEN PARENTS GO TO

PRISON.

>> JOSH, HE WORKS.

HE GOES TO SCHOOL.

THAT IS BEING THE INFLUENCE THAT

HE NEEDS.

>> WOULD IT MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER

IF I TOLD YOU I HAD TO DO

HOMEWORK ON SPRING BREAK, TOO?

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH?

>> Sreenivasan: THAT'S ALL FOR

THIS EDITION OF PBS NEWSHOUR

WEEKEND.

I'M HARI SREENIVASAN.

THANKS FOR WATCHING.

 

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.