1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,200 JUDY WOODRUFF: Today, family, friends, our "NewsHour" family, past and present, said 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,200 goodbye to our co-founder Jim Lehrer. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:13,200 He died last week at age 85. There was a memorial held today at the National United Methodist 4 00:00:14,833 --> 00:00:18,833 Church in Washington, D.C. It was a lovely and touching service. 5 00:00:18,833 --> 00:00:20,800 Here are just a few moments. 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,933 LEE CULLUM, Journalist: Of course, everybody loved Jim Lehrer. We all loved Jim Lehrer. 7 00:00:26,900 --> 00:00:31,000 And I think the reason is this. He certainly, for me, confirmed something I have always 8 00:00:32,966 --> 00:00:35,766 believed, or wanted to believe. And that is that nice guys finish first. 9 00:00:35,766 --> 00:00:40,733 Let's just say he was disciplined, without overdoing it. He was ambitious without avarice. 10 00:00:42,766 --> 00:00:46,533 He was gifted without guile. He was a golden boy who had no goose to lay golden eggs for 11 00:00:48,433 --> 00:00:51,400 him. But he was self-made. He was. And he was never self-conscious. 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,366 ROGER ROSENBLATT, Author: He loved the lives of others. He was devoted to the lives of 13 00:00:57,300 --> 00:00:59,400 strangers. 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,600 If you heard Jim's end of a conversation with someone, you couldn't tell whether he was 15 00:01:05,566 --> 00:01:09,266 speaking to a Supreme Court justice or to the kid who parked cars at the restaurant, 16 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:14,300 so democratic was his mind and his soul, and so genuine was his interest in others. 17 00:01:16,233 --> 00:01:18,333 JAMES RUSSELL LEHRER NASH, Grandson of Jim Lehrer: We were all sitting around in the 18 00:01:18,333 --> 00:01:21,300 kitchen, when he got up and told my brother, sister, and I that he was going to teach us 19 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:22,300 how to march like Marines. 20 00:01:22,300 --> 00:01:24,400 (LAUGHTER) 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,066 JAMES RUSSELL LEHRER NASH: We jumped up immediately and started to follow him. 22 00:01:27,066 --> 00:01:31,233 He shouted out his march cadence as we trailed behind him in as straight of a line as three 23 00:01:31,233 --> 00:01:34,500 kids could manage, which isn't very straight. 24 00:01:34,500 --> 00:01:39,266 And I remember stretching my legs and listening intently to try and match his stride. Being 25 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:44,266 7 years old, when I realized I couldn't match him perfectly, I started to jump around and 26 00:01:46,733 --> 00:01:49,533 fall out of line. But he continued to march with my siblings in circles until I fell back 27 00:01:50,166 --> 00:01:52,266 into step. 28 00:01:52,266 --> 00:01:56,300 While this may feel like such a small moment, as I look back on it, it exemplifies perfectly 29 00:01:57,633 --> 00:01:59,600 how generous my grandfather was with his time. 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,500 MARY GRAHAM, Author: Each Jim decision was a family decision. Time to buy a house? A 31 00:02:06,566 --> 00:02:10,500 family consensus would be required. Moderate a presidential debate? Wait a day until I 32 00:02:11,733 --> 00:02:14,800 consult with Kate and the girls. 33 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:19,800 This is a side of Jim the world didn't see, the creative work that mattered most to him, 34 00:02:21,233 --> 00:02:24,966 as Kate's partner in building this strong and enduring family. 35 00:02:28,633 --> 00:02:33,566 (MUSIC) 36 00:02:33,566 --> 00:02:38,566 JUDY WOODRUFF: It was a beautiful service for a beautiful man. 37 00:02:50,633 --> 00:02:55,000 And before we go tonight, we also wanted to take a little time to hear from some of the 38 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,966 producers and correspondents who worked alongside Jim for decades and at the earliest stages 39 00:03:00,633 --> 00:03:02,333 of this program. 40 00:03:02,333 --> 00:03:05,433 Here are a few of their thoughts about Jim, his values and his legacy. 41 00:03:05,433 --> 00:03:09,833 LINDA WINSLOW, Former Executive Producer, "PBS NewsHour": I met Jim in 1972, and the 42 00:03:09,833 --> 00:03:12,066 first thing I noticed about him were his eyes. 43 00:03:12,066 --> 00:03:17,066 I think his eyes were the secret to his success. They were honest eyes. And they said: You 44 00:03:17,666 --> 00:03:19,700 can trust me. 45 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:20,500 JIM LEHRER, Co-Founder and Former Anchor, "PBS NewsHour": To criticize you personally, 46 00:03:20,500 --> 00:03:22,500 is that a crime? 47 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:26,833 LINDA WINSLOW: It didn't matter who Jim was interviewing. It didn't matter what the color 48 00:03:26,833 --> 00:03:30,900 of their skin was. It didn't matter where they went to school. It didn't matter how 49 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:33,533 much money was in their bank account. 50 00:03:33,533 --> 00:03:38,533 What mattered was what that person, that unique individual had to say. And when he turned 51 00:03:41,466 --> 00:03:46,466 those big brown eyes on you and asked you what was usually a very simple question, you 52 00:03:48,133 --> 00:03:53,100 tried very hard to be as open and honest with him as he had been with you. 53 00:03:55,133 --> 00:03:58,600 I think that's why he was such a great interviewer and also such a great friend. 54 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,233 JIM LEHRER: Good evening. I'm Jim Lehrer. 55 00:04:01,233 --> 00:04:03,233 On the "NewsHour" tonight... 56 00:04:03,233 --> 00:04:05,300 CHARLAYNE HUNTER-GAULT, Special Correspondent, "PBS NewsHour": He taught by example, so I 57 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:08,533 learned to watch him. And one of the things I learned from him was that you could have 58 00:04:08,533 --> 00:04:13,533 a list of prepared questions, but you had to listen to the person who was being interviewed. 59 00:04:15,466 --> 00:04:18,233 And so, if they said something you hadn't anticipated, you had to figure out how to 60 00:04:18,233 --> 00:04:21,866 pick up on that, because it might have been more important than the question you asked. 61 00:04:21,866 --> 00:04:25,100 ANNETTE MILLER, Vice President, NewsHour Productions: It was our job to present all sides of the 62 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:29,700 issue, even the shades of gray. He taught me the objectivity of not picking a horse 63 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:31,800 in the race. 64 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,900 Sometimes, when I was with friends, they would mock me, saying, you treat journalism as some 65 00:04:35,900 --> 00:04:40,600 kind of priesthood. And I thought about that. And I said, they were right, because I learned 66 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,700 it from the high priest himself. 67 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:46,300 JIM LEHRER: The uprising is the catalyst that has brought this situation to wherever it 68 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:47,733 is right now. Would you not agree? 69 00:04:47,733 --> 00:04:49,766 MAN: I would say that's true. 70 00:04:49,766 --> 00:04:51,800 DAN WERNER, Former President, MacNeil/Lehrer Productions: Jim Lehrer knew what he wanted. 71 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:56,033 From the start, he and Robin had a sense of the program they wanted to create, and the 72 00:04:56,033 --> 00:05:00,200 "NewsHour" was a reflection of what he wanted and who he was. 73 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,133 Jim wasn't going to let anything get in the way of his journalism, as he defined it and 74 00:05:06,333 --> 00:05:08,466 as he wanted to give it to the American people. 75 00:05:08,466 --> 00:05:12,533 JIM LEHRER: If I hear the two of you correctly, neither one of you is suggesting any major 76 00:05:12,533 --> 00:05:16,833 changes in what you want to do as president as a result of the financial bailout. Is that 77 00:05:16,833 --> 00:05:18,866 what you're saying? 78 00:05:18,866 --> 00:05:20,100 BARACK OBAMA, Former President of the United States: Well, no, there are going to be things 79 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:20,900 that end up having to be deferred and delayed. 80 00:05:20,900 --> 00:05:23,000 JIM LEHRER: Like what? 81 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 MARGARET WARNER, Former Foreign Correspondent, "PBS NewsHour": Jim was a hard man to persuade. 82 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,966 But if you had earned his trust, he was willing to roll the dice. One of Jim's great gifts 83 00:05:30,633 --> 00:05:34,900 as a newsman was that he knew when a story was right and when it wasn't it. 84 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:39,900 In early January '11, when protests started breaking out in the Arab world, our overseas 85 00:05:41,366 --> 00:05:44,800 reporting unit was totally out of money for the fiscal year. 86 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,300 Nevertheless, I walked down the hallway to his office a few days into it, and I said: 87 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:54,300 "Jim, I know we're short of money. I think these protests just starting out could really 88 00:05:55,866 --> 00:05:57,766 transform, certainly the Middle East, and the world as we know it." 89 00:05:57,766 --> 00:06:02,766 He asked a couple of questions, and then he gave his characteristic, "I hear you." 90 00:06:04,733 --> 00:06:08,466 I went back to my office. And half-hour later, word came, get ready to leave for Egypt in 91 00:06:09,366 --> 00:06:11,066 the next 36 hours. 92 00:06:11,066 --> 00:06:15,666 NELSON MANDELA, Former South African President: I stand here before you. 93 00:06:15,666 --> 00:06:19,733 CHARLAYNE HUNTER-GAULT: The one time I got a little nervous about Jim's reaction was 94 00:06:19,733 --> 00:06:24,566 when F.W. de Klerk announced he was going to release Nelson Mandela. This was back in 95 00:06:24,566 --> 00:06:26,700 1990. 96 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:29,400 And I'd already made reservations to go to South Africa. And Jim said, well, the only 97 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:33,366 way he would approve it is if we could guarantee an interview with Mandela. 98 00:06:33,366 --> 00:06:38,366 Well, I guess it was Jim Lehrer in my blood, because I said, "I will get it." 99 00:06:40,866 --> 00:06:43,933 And, sure enough, we flew to South Africa, and we got the only one of two half-hour interviews 100 00:06:44,633 --> 00:06:46,166 with Mandela. 101 00:06:46,166 --> 00:06:50,400 Did they do things to you that made you feel like a prisoner? 102 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,400 NELSON MANDELA: Oh, yes. 103 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,366 JIM LEHRER: House Speaker Foley predicted a budget deal by the weekend. 104 00:06:54,366 --> 00:06:57,800 MARGARET WARNER: We called ourselves the "NewsHour" family. And it really was a family. 105 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,800 And in a time of personal crisis for any of us, there was no more empathetic friend than 106 00:07:05,033 --> 00:07:07,066 Jim Lehrer. 107 00:07:07,066 --> 00:07:11,033 DAN WERNER: Jim cared about me. He cared about my family. I took ill in the 1990s, and Jim 108 00:07:12,166 --> 00:07:14,200 visited me almost every day in the hospital. 109 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,666 MARGARET WARNER: When my husband was diagnosed in the early stages of a crippling disease, 110 00:07:18,666 --> 00:07:21,900 I was devastated. I went to see him. 111 00:07:21,900 --> 00:07:26,900 And he said: "First of all, take all the time you want. Now let's see what we can do to 112 00:07:27,833 --> 00:07:29,833 help you." 113 00:07:29,833 --> 00:07:34,266 Within days, I was connected to some of the top medical people in this field. 114 00:07:35,633 --> 00:07:37,300 JIM LEHRER: And to our new senior correspondent Gwen Ifill. 115 00:07:37,300 --> 00:07:38,766 Welcome, Gwen. 116 00:07:38,766 --> 00:07:40,766 GWEN IFILL, Former "PBS NewsHour" Co-Anchor: Thanks, Jim. 117 00:07:40,766 --> 00:07:44,033 LINDA WINSLOW: He wasn't afraid of strong women. He was surrounded by them at home, 118 00:07:44,033 --> 00:07:49,033 his wife, Kate, and their three beautiful daughters. And he actually pushed very hard 119 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,433 to add more women and people of color to the "NewsHour" team, because he believed strongly 120 00:07:57,033 --> 00:07:59,966 that diversity is what makes the world go around. 121 00:07:59,966 --> 00:08:04,966 CHARLAYNE HUNTER-GAULT: He and Robin used to say we do news that can be used by people 122 00:08:06,900 --> 00:08:10,366 to make their own decisions. He trusted people's intelligence and intellect. 123 00:08:10,366 --> 00:08:13,866 And I think that's something we need to learn from even today. 124 00:08:13,866 --> 00:08:18,866 ANNETTE MILLER: Jim was a great friend to have. He's exceedingly smart and very funny. 125 00:08:20,833 --> 00:08:24,033 I know how lucky I was to find a boss and a friend like Jim so early in life. It was 126 00:08:24,033 --> 00:08:27,033 a rare and precious gift. 127 00:08:27,033 --> 00:08:32,033 JUDY WOODRUFF: We're so thankful to hear from all of these friends and former colleagues. 128 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,500 Jim truly was our North Star here, and we miss him so much.