1 00:00:00,633 --> 00:00:01,633 >> Sreenivasan: THIS WEEK BEGINS 2 00:00:01,633 --> 00:00:04,133 THE 2020 CENSUS, AN AIM TO COUNT 3 00:00:04,133 --> 00:00:05,933 EVERYONE LIVING IN THE COUNTRY 4 00:00:05,933 --> 00:00:07,666 AND THE U.S. TERRITORIES. 5 00:00:07,666 --> 00:00:09,166 THE FINDINGS WILL DETERMINE HOW 6 00:00:09,166 --> 00:00:11,033 FEDERAL DOLLARS ARE DISTRIBUTED. 7 00:00:11,033 --> 00:00:12,266 HANSI LO WANG, A NATIONAL 8 00:00:12,266 --> 00:00:13,800 CORRESPONDENT FOR NPR HAS BEEN 9 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,500 REPORTING ON THE 2020 CENSUS. 10 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:17,033 WE SAT DOWN RECENTLY TO DISCUSS 11 00:00:17,033 --> 00:00:18,666 WHAT TO EXPECT, INCLUDING WHAT'S 12 00:00:18,666 --> 00:00:20,266 NEW THIS TIME AROUND. 13 00:00:20,266 --> 00:00:21,600 >> IT'S A BASIC SET OF QUESTIONS 14 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,933 THAT'S GOING TO ASK YOU WHERE 15 00:00:22,933 --> 00:00:24,000 YOU LIVE. 16 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,366 CONFIRMING YOUR ADDRESS, ALL THE 17 00:00:25,366 --> 00:00:27,200 PEOPLE LIVING IN YOUR HOME, 18 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,433 THEIR AGE, BIRTH DATE, PHONE 19 00:00:29,433 --> 00:00:30,600 NUMBER THAT SOMEONE CAN BE 20 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,133 REACHED AT, RACE, ETHNICITY AND 21 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:35,500 THE RELATIONSHIP THAT PEOPLE 22 00:00:35,500 --> 00:00:36,566 BETWEEN PEOPLE LIVING IN THE 23 00:00:36,566 --> 00:00:38,000 SAME HOME AS WELL AS WHETHER THE 24 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,666 HOME IS RENTED OR OWNED. 25 00:00:39,666 --> 00:00:41,066 SOME OF THE CHANGES ARE IN THE 26 00:00:41,066 --> 00:00:42,366 RACE QUESTION. 27 00:00:42,366 --> 00:00:44,500 IF YOU MARK OFF THE WHITE AND/OR 28 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:45,833 THE BLACK BOX, TO ANSWER THE 29 00:00:45,833 --> 00:00:46,900 RACE QUESTION, FOR THE FIRST 30 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:48,400 TIME THE CENSUS BUREAU IS GOING 31 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,800 TO ASK WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF 32 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,100 RACE WHAT YOUR ORIGINS ARE. 33 00:00:52,100 --> 00:00:53,000 AND THOSE ARE NON-HISPANIC 34 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:53,933 ORIGINS. 35 00:00:53,933 --> 00:00:55,366 THEY PROVIDE EXAMPLES SUCH AS 36 00:00:55,366 --> 00:00:57,166 ENGLISH OR FRENCH OR JAMAICAN OR 37 00:00:57,166 --> 00:00:58,966 NIGERIAN, FOR EXAMPLE, ASKING 38 00:00:58,966 --> 00:01:00,833 THEM TO WRITE THOSE IN AND UNDER 39 00:01:00,833 --> 00:01:01,900 THE RELATIONSHIP QUESTION 40 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:03,033 DESCRIBING HOW PEOPLE WITHIN THE 41 00:01:03,033 --> 00:01:04,233 SAME HOUSEHOLD ARE RELATED. 42 00:01:04,233 --> 00:01:05,300 THERE'S GOING TO BE NEW 43 00:01:05,300 --> 00:01:07,966 CATEGORIES THAT SPECIFY SAME SEX 44 00:01:07,966 --> 00:01:09,266 AND WHAT THE BUREAU IS CALLING 45 00:01:09,266 --> 00:01:11,066 OPPOSITE SEX: SPOUSE, WIFE, 46 00:01:11,066 --> 00:01:12,366 HUSBAND, PARTNER. 47 00:01:12,366 --> 00:01:13,666 THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THE CENSUS 48 00:01:13,666 --> 00:01:15,366 BUREAU IS ASKING FOR PEOPLE TO 49 00:01:15,366 --> 00:01:16,800 IDENTIFY THEIR SEXUAL 50 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,166 ORIENTATION DIRECTLY IN THE 51 00:01:18,166 --> 00:01:19,200 CONTEXT OF THIS RELATIONSHIP 52 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,033 QUESTION. 53 00:01:20,033 --> 00:01:21,066 >> Sreenivasan: OKAY, SO THERE 54 00:01:21,066 --> 00:01:22,466 IS NOT A CITIZENSHIP QUESTION IN 55 00:01:22,466 --> 00:01:23,766 THIS CENSUS. 56 00:01:23,766 --> 00:01:25,333 IS THERE ANOTHER WAY ARE THERE 57 00:01:25,333 --> 00:01:26,300 OTHER WAYS THAT THE GOVERNMENT 58 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:27,600 IS GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME 59 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,633 SORT OF AN ESTIMATE ON THAT 60 00:01:28,633 --> 00:01:29,466 DATA? 61 00:01:29,466 --> 00:01:30,366 >> THE GOVERNMENT'S GOING TO 62 00:01:30,366 --> 00:01:31,366 TRY. 63 00:01:31,366 --> 00:01:32,366 PRESIDENT TRUMP ISSUED AN 64 00:01:32,366 --> 00:01:33,300 EXECUTIVE ORDER ONCE HE 65 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:34,333 ANNOUNCED THAT THE 66 00:01:34,333 --> 00:01:35,366 ADMINISTRATION WAS NO LONGER 67 00:01:35,366 --> 00:01:36,433 PUSHING FOR THIS CITIZENSHIP 68 00:01:36,433 --> 00:01:37,666 QUESTION THAT FEDERAL COURTS 69 00:01:37,666 --> 00:01:39,266 HAVE NOW PERMANENTLY BLOCKED 70 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:40,666 FROM BEING ADDED TO THE 2020 71 00:01:40,666 --> 00:01:41,833 CENSUS FORMS. 72 00:01:41,833 --> 00:01:43,266 AND SO THE CENSUS BUREAU HAS 73 00:01:43,266 --> 00:01:44,766 BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO COMPILE 74 00:01:44,766 --> 00:01:46,266 EXISTING GOVERNMENT RECORDS FROM 75 00:01:46,266 --> 00:01:48,000 VARIOUS FEDERAL AGENCIES, THE 76 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,066 STATE DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT OF 77 00:01:49,066 --> 00:01:50,466 HOMELAND SECURITY, AS WELL AS 78 00:01:50,466 --> 00:01:53,266 SOME STATE D.M.V. OFFICES AND 79 00:01:53,266 --> 00:01:55,066 TRYING TO COME UP WITH A DATA 80 00:01:55,066 --> 00:01:56,333 SET THAT WOULD REPRESENT THE 81 00:01:56,333 --> 00:01:57,500 CITIZENSHIP STATUS OF EVERY 82 00:01:57,500 --> 00:01:59,133 PERSON LIVING IN THE COUNTRY. 83 00:01:59,133 --> 00:02:00,966 >> Sreenivasan: AND SORT OF VERY 84 00:02:00,966 --> 00:02:02,333 BASIC. 85 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:03,433 BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPENING ON 86 00:02:03,433 --> 00:02:04,366 FACEBOOK. 87 00:02:04,366 --> 00:02:05,366 THERE WERE CAMPAIGN ADS FROM THE 88 00:02:05,366 --> 00:02:06,533 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION EARLIER 89 00:02:06,533 --> 00:02:07,500 THIS WEEK, I THINK, THAT 90 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:08,666 FACEBOOK DECIDED TO TAKE OFF. 91 00:02:08,666 --> 00:02:10,500 BUT THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE 92 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:11,433 THROUGH FACEBOOK. 93 00:02:11,433 --> 00:02:12,433 THIS ISN'T GONNA BE THROUGH AN 94 00:02:12,433 --> 00:02:13,366 EMAIL. 95 00:02:13,366 --> 00:02:14,333 THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT 96 00:02:14,333 --> 00:02:16,166 GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THIS ONE 97 00:02:16,166 --> 00:02:17,433 AND ONLY WEBSITE TO FILL OUT. 98 00:02:17,433 --> 00:02:18,033 CORRECT? 99 00:02:18,033 --> 00:02:18,866 >> THAT'’’S RIGHT. 100 00:02:18,866 --> 00:02:21,166 THE OFFICIAL 2020 CENSUS ONLINE 101 00:02:21,166 --> 00:02:22,566 FORM IS A WEBSITE. 102 00:02:22,566 --> 00:02:24,066 IT'’’S NOT AN APP. 103 00:02:24,066 --> 00:02:26,300 IT'S my2020census.gov, YOU CAN 104 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:28,100 ACCESS IT, THE CENSUS BUREAU 105 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:29,733 SAYS, FROM ANY WEB BROWSER. 106 00:02:29,733 --> 00:02:31,733 AND THOSE ADS FROM THE TRUMP 107 00:02:31,733 --> 00:02:33,600 ADMINISTRATION'S, TRUMP 108 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,133 REELECTION CAMPAIGN, RATHER, 109 00:02:35,133 --> 00:02:36,533 THOSE WERE ADS DIRECTING TO A 110 00:02:36,533 --> 00:02:38,166 SURVEY THAT WAS CALLING ITSELF 111 00:02:38,166 --> 00:02:40,366 SOME TYPE OF "OFFICIAL CENSUS." 112 00:02:40,366 --> 00:02:41,366 BUT IT WAS NOT THE OFFICIAL 113 00:02:41,366 --> 00:02:42,300 CENSUS. 114 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:43,600 >> Sreenivasan: SO WHAT HAPPENS 115 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:44,766 FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND 116 00:02:44,766 --> 00:02:45,600 THE PROCESS? 117 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,300 WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A CENSUS TAKER 118 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:48,900 KNOCKS ON THE DOOR AND THERE'S 119 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:49,833 NOBODY HOME? 120 00:02:49,833 --> 00:02:51,000 HOW DO WE GET INFORMATION ON WHO 121 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,300 LIVES IN THIS COMMUNITY? 122 00:02:52,300 --> 00:02:53,700 >> WELL, THESE CENSUS WORKERS 123 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:54,866 ARE NOT GOING TO GO OUT UNTIL 124 00:02:54,866 --> 00:02:55,933 AROUND MID-MAY. 125 00:02:55,933 --> 00:02:57,133 SO THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, 126 00:02:57,133 --> 00:02:58,366 EVERYONE'’’S ON THEIR OWN. 127 00:02:58,366 --> 00:02:59,933 CENSUS BUREAU HOPES YOU 128 00:02:59,933 --> 00:03:01,333 SELF-RESPOND, BUT STARTING IN 129 00:03:01,333 --> 00:03:02,900 MID-MAY AND INTO THE SUMMER, 130 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:04,066 HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVEN'T 131 00:03:04,066 --> 00:03:05,133 RESPONDED BY THEN, THE CENSUS 132 00:03:05,133 --> 00:03:07,100 WORKER IS GOING TO TRY AND KNOCK 133 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:09,666 ON THAT DOOR MULTIPLE TIMES. 134 00:03:09,666 --> 00:03:11,833 AND ALSO, IF, IF ULTIMATELY, 135 00:03:11,833 --> 00:03:12,900 CENSUS WORKERS CAN'T FIND 136 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:14,333 SOMEONE AT THEIR HOME, THEY MAY 137 00:03:14,333 --> 00:03:17,300 ASK NEIGHBORS, LANDLORDS, OTHER, 138 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:18,400 WHAT THE CENSUS BUREAU CALLS 139 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,800 PROXIES TO TRY TO HELP 140 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,000 UNDERSTAND WHO IS ACTUALLY 141 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,300 LIVING IN THAT HOME. 142 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:23,633 ALSO GOING TO USE FOR THE FIRST 143 00:03:23,633 --> 00:03:25,000 TIME MORE EXTENSIVE USE OF 144 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,366 EXISTING GOVERNMENT RECORDS TO 145 00:03:26,366 --> 00:03:27,800 TRY TO FILL IN THOSE GAPS. 146 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,800 >> Sreenivasan: THIS IS 147 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,766 HAPPENING, ABOUT 500,000 TEMPS 148 00:03:30,766 --> 00:03:31,933 ARE REQUIRED TO DO ALL THAT 149 00:03:31,933 --> 00:03:33,833 KNOCKING. 150 00:03:33,833 --> 00:03:34,900 AND THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE 151 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:36,833 CONTEXT OF A CORONAVIRUS SCARE 152 00:03:36,833 --> 00:03:37,766 WHICH IS GOING THROUGH THE 153 00:03:37,766 --> 00:03:38,733 COUNTRY. 154 00:03:38,733 --> 00:03:39,933 ANY POSSIBILITIES THAT THAT 155 00:03:39,933 --> 00:03:42,266 COULD IMPACT HOW THE RESULTS 156 00:03:42,266 --> 00:03:43,100 COME OUT? 157 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:44,000 >> IT'S SOMETHING I'M WATCHING 158 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:44,933 RIGHT NOW. 159 00:03:44,933 --> 00:03:46,500 AND 500,000 WORKERS IS WHAT THE 160 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:49,233 BUREAU IS EXPECTING TO NEED IF 161 00:03:49,233 --> 00:03:50,566 THE RESPONSE RATE, ACTUALLY 162 00:03:50,566 --> 00:03:51,700 SELF-RESPONSE RATE, IS EVEN 163 00:03:51,700 --> 00:03:53,900 LOWER THAN 60%, ABOUT 55%. 164 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:55,266 AND THOSE, THAT'S OF HOUSEHOLDS 165 00:03:55,266 --> 00:03:56,233 THEY'RE EXPECTING TO SELF 166 00:03:56,233 --> 00:03:57,200 RESPOND. 167 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,533 AND SO IT'S A BIG QUESTION IF 168 00:03:58,533 --> 00:03:59,800 THE CENSUS BUREAU, RIGHT NOW, 169 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,066 IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RAMPING UP 170 00:04:01,066 --> 00:04:01,966 HIRING. 171 00:04:01,966 --> 00:04:03,700 IT'S RECRUITED MORE THAN TWO 172 00:04:03,700 --> 00:04:05,200 MILLION APPLICANTS. 173 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,000 AND NOW STARTING TO OFFER 174 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,866 POSITIONS TO THESE APPLICANTS TO 175 00:04:08,866 --> 00:04:10,000 SEE IF ANYONE WILL TAKE THEM AND 176 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,033 GO THROUGH TRAINING OVER THE 177 00:04:11,033 --> 00:04:12,100 NEXT FEW MONTHS AND TO BE 178 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:13,133 DEPLOYED IN MAY. 179 00:04:13,133 --> 00:04:15,000 WE'’’LL SEE HOW THAT TURNS OUT. 180 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:15,900 >> Sreenivasan: HOW DO WE COUNT 181 00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:17,633 HOMELESS PEOPLE? 182 00:04:17,633 --> 00:04:19,666 >> IT'’’S A COMPLICATED PROCESS. 183 00:04:19,666 --> 00:04:22,300 AND TOWARDS THE END OF MARCH, 184 00:04:22,300 --> 00:04:24,033 THIS MONTH, THE CENSUS BUREAU IS 185 00:04:24,033 --> 00:04:25,666 GOING TO DO TWO DIFFERENT 186 00:04:25,666 --> 00:04:26,633 THINGS. 187 00:04:26,633 --> 00:04:28,800 ONE IS GOING TO VISIT SHELTERS, 188 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,800 WHICH THEY'VE CONTACTED SO FAR, 189 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,266 AND TRANSITIONAL HOMES, FOR 190 00:04:32,266 --> 00:04:34,066 EXAMPLE, AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A 191 00:04:34,066 --> 00:04:35,633 WAY WORKING WITH THOSE SHELTERS 192 00:04:35,633 --> 00:04:36,866 FOR FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO 193 00:04:36,866 --> 00:04:37,966 COUNT THE RESIDENTS FOR THE 194 00:04:37,966 --> 00:04:40,300 PEOPLE WHO USE THOSE FACILITIES 195 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:41,666 THAT COULD BE SENDING A CENSUS 196 00:04:41,666 --> 00:04:42,833 WORKER TO DO IN-PERSON 197 00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:43,833 INTERVIEWS. 198 00:04:43,833 --> 00:04:44,966 IT COULD BE DISTRIBUTING PAPER 199 00:04:44,966 --> 00:04:46,033 FORMS AND THEN COLLECTING THEM 200 00:04:46,033 --> 00:04:46,900 AT THE END. 201 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:47,966 AND THEN CERTAINLY THERE ARE 202 00:04:47,966 --> 00:04:49,000 FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING NOT IN 203 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,433 SHELTERS, LIVING ON THE STREETS. 204 00:04:50,433 --> 00:04:51,800 AND THE CENSUS BUREAU DOES HAVE 205 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,633 A ONE DAY COUNT AROUND APRIL 1. 206 00:04:54,633 --> 00:04:56,233 AND WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO VISIT 207 00:04:56,233 --> 00:04:58,566 PLACES WHERE THEY'RE MORE LIKELY 208 00:04:58,566 --> 00:05:00,366 TO FIND FOLKS WHO ARE HOMELESS. 209 00:05:00,366 --> 00:05:01,733 AND TRIED TO DO A COUNT THERE. 210 00:05:01,733 --> 00:05:02,700 >> Sreenivasan: AND REALLY KIND 211 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:04,200 OF THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS IS 212 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,200 THAT THIS IS VERY CONSEQUENTIAL 213 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,766 FOR HOW COMMUNITIES GET MONEY 214 00:05:10,766 --> 00:05:12,766 FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND 215 00:05:12,766 --> 00:05:14,066 HOW WE REALLY THINK ABOUT LOTS 216 00:05:14,066 --> 00:05:15,100 OF OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BIG 217 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:16,066 CONSEQUENCES GOING FORWARD THE 218 00:05:16,066 --> 00:05:17,100 NEXT TEN YEARS. 219 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:18,266 >> ONE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THE 220 00:05:18,266 --> 00:05:19,966 CENSUS, IT'S A WAY FOR EVERY 221 00:05:19,966 --> 00:05:21,166 PERSON LIVING IN THE UNITED 222 00:05:21,166 --> 00:05:22,900 STATES OF AMERICA TO EXPRESS 223 00:05:22,900 --> 00:05:24,000 POWER. 224 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,300 THE CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE ONE, 225 00:05:25,300 --> 00:05:26,933 SECTION TWO, IS CALLING FOR AN 226 00:05:26,933 --> 00:05:28,200 ACTUAL NUMERATION, ACTUAL 227 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,633 COUNTING OF EVERY PERSON LIVING 228 00:05:29,633 --> 00:05:30,800 IN THE COUNTRY. 229 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,066 AND THOSE NUMBERS DETERMINE HOW 230 00:05:32,066 --> 00:05:33,200 MANY CONGRESSIONAL SEATS, 231 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:34,266 ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES EACH 232 00:05:34,266 --> 00:05:35,400 STATE GETS. 233 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,200 AND IT GUIDES MORE THAN $1.5 234 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,066 TRILLION A YEAR FOR MEDICARE, 235 00:05:40,066 --> 00:05:42,033 MEDICAID, ROADS AND SCHOOLS. 236 00:05:42,033 --> 00:05:43,466 AND IT'S ALL DEPENDENT UPON HOW 237 00:05:43,466 --> 00:05:44,400 MANY PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THE 238 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,166 COUNTRY. 239 00:05:45,166 --> 00:05:46,133 >> Sreenivasan: ALL RIGHT. 240 00:05:46,133 --> 00:05:47,000 HANSI LO WANG, THANKS SO MUCH. 241 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,633 >> YOU'’’RE WELCOME.