WEBVTT 00:00.900 --> 00:01.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: FEDERAL, STATE 00:01.700 --> 00:02.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE IN THE 00:02.866 --> 00:04.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MIDST OF A COMPLICATED PUBLIC 00:04.366 --> 00:05.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HEALTH CRISIS AS THE CORONA 00:05.766 --> 00:07.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% VIRUS OUTBREAK CONTINUES TO GROW 00:07.400 --> 00:08.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IN THE U.S. AND AROUND THE 00:08.533 --> 00:09.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WORLD. 00:09.466 --> 00:10.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% JOINING ME NOW IS CAROLINE CHEN, 00:10.500 --> 00:11.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% A REPORTER FOR PROPUBLICA, WHO 00:11.666 --> 00:12.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WAS COVERING THE COVID 19 00:12.966 --> 00:14.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RESPONSE AND WHAT WE NEED TO 00:14.100 --> 00:15.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% KNOW ABOUT THE SPREAD OF THE 00:15.366 --> 00:16.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% VIRUS. 00:16.166 --> 00:18.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU LIVED THROUGH SARS WHEN YOU 00:18.500 --> 00:20.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WERE A KID IN HONG KONG, YOU 00:20.266 --> 00:23.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HAVE COVERED ZIKA AND EBOLA, 00:23.400 --> 00:24.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO YOU HAVE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF 00:24.666 --> 00:25.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EXPERIENCE WATCHING THESE THINGS 00:25.733 --> 00:26.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ROLL OUT. 00:26.866 --> 00:28.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHAT IS MOST CONCERNING TO YOU 00:28.066 --> 00:29.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RIGHT NOW? 00:29.333 --> 00:30.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> WHAT'S MOST CONCERNING TO ME 00:30.900 --> 00:32.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IS HOW PREPARED THE U.S. IS, AND 00:32.833 --> 00:34.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE ARE IN A CRITICAL JUNCTION 00:34.433 --> 00:37.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RIGHT NOW BECAUSE SPEED MATTERS 00:37.700 --> 00:39.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RIGHT NOW. 00:39.066 --> 00:40.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE'RE STILL IN EARLY DAYS IN THE 00:40.800 --> 00:42.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% U.S., BUT HOW PREPARED WE ARE 00:42.766 --> 00:45.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NOW AND HOW WE RESPOND RIGHT NOW 00:45.333 --> 00:46.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% OVER THESE WEEKS ARE GOING TO 00:46.866 --> 00:47.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MATTER A LOT. 00:47.900 --> 00:49.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THE POPULATIONS I'M MOST 00:49.266 --> 00:50.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CONCERNED ABOUT ARE THE 00:50.833 --> 00:52.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% VULNERABLE, AND FOR ME, THAT 00:52.900 --> 00:55.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MEANS THE ELDERLY IN PARTICULAR 00:55.066 --> 00:57.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WITH THIS DISEASE, AND ALSO THE 00:57.133 --> 00:58.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% FRONTLINE WORKERS. 00:58.000 --> 01:00.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO THAT'S HEALTH CARE WORKERS 01:00.133 --> 01:01.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND FIRST RESPONDERS, BECAUSE 01:01.666 --> 01:02.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEY ARE GOING TO BE ON THE 01:02.566 --> 01:03.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% FRONT LINES 01:03.500 --> 01:04.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: LET'S TAKE A 01:04.333 --> 01:05.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LOOK AT EACH OF THOSE 01:05.366 --> 01:06.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% POPULATIONS. 01:06.266 --> 01:07.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE ELDERLY, THAT THAT WAS A 01:07.333 --> 01:08.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DEVASTATING NUMBER OF PEOPLE 01:08.400 --> 01:09.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT WERE AFFECTED IN SEATTLE AT 01:09.800 --> 01:10.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT NURSING CARE HOME. 01:10.866 --> 01:12.233 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHAT SHOULD, KIND OF, ANYBODY 01:12.233 --> 01:13.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHO HAS A RELATIVE IN A NURSING 01:13.366 --> 01:15.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HOME BE THINKING RIGHT NOW? 01:15.100 --> 01:16.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHAT KIND OF PLANS SHOULD THOSE 01:16.666 --> 01:17.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PLACES HAVE? 01:17.900 --> 01:19.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> NURSING FACILITIES, I HOPE 01:19.666 --> 01:21.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT ALL OF THEM REALLY HAVE A 01:21.133 --> 01:22.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PREPAREDNESS PLAN RIGHT NOW AND 01:22.833 --> 01:24.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ARE REALLY STEPPING UP THEIR 01:24.100 --> 01:25.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% INFECTION CONTROL, IN 01:25.266 --> 01:26.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PARTICULAR. 01:26.200 --> 01:29.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THAT IS ALSO THE CASE FOR 01:29.033 --> 01:31.300 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HOSPITALS OR ANY TYPE OF HEALTH 01:31.300 --> 01:34.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CARE FACILITY THAT ARE IN STATES 01:34.733 --> 01:36.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% OR IN CITIES OR IN COUNTIES THAT 01:36.133 --> 01:38.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HAVE GERIATRIC POPULATIONS. 01:38.933 --> 01:40.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF 01:40.366 --> 01:41.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU'RE NOT LIVING IN A NURSING 01:41.633 --> 01:44.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HOME, IF IF SOMEONE IS ELDERLY, 01:44.933 --> 01:46.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEY MIGHT START THINKING, YOU 01:46.333 --> 01:47.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% KNOW, AT SOME POINT IN TIME I 01:47.633 --> 01:49.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MIGHT NOT WANT TO BE GOING OUT, 01:49.400 --> 01:51.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU KNOW, TAKING PUBLIC TRANSIT, 01:51.600 --> 01:53.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND START STOCKING UP A LITTLE 01:53.133 --> 01:54.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BIT. 01:54.000 --> 01:55.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT, LIKE 01:55.000 --> 01:56.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PANIC BUYING, BUYING 16 BOTTLES 01:56.966 --> 01:59.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% OF LYSOL, BUT START SLOWLY AND 01:59.400 --> 02:01.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% METHODICALLY, YOU KNOW, BUYING A 02:01.333 --> 02:03.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LITTLE BIT MORE GROCERIES EVERY 02:03.000 --> 02:04.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TIME YOU GO FOR A GROCERY RUN, 02:04.766 --> 02:05.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND ALSO I WOULD ENCOURAGE 02:05.966 --> 02:07.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PEOPLE TO START THINKING ABOUT 02:07.100 --> 02:07.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEIR NEIGHBORS. 02:07.933 --> 02:09.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO IF YOU HAVE AN ELDERLY 02:09.000 --> 02:10.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NEIGHBOR, IF YOU HAVE AN ELDERLY 02:10.466 --> 02:12.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GRANDPARENT, THIS IS THE TIME 02:12.200 --> 02:13.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHERE WE CAN REALLY BE HELPING 02:13.366 --> 02:14.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% OUR NEIGHBORS. 02:14.066 --> 02:15.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: YEAH, AND THEN 02:15.266 --> 02:17.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE OTHER PART OF THIS EQUATION, 02:17.433 --> 02:18.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHICH I THINK IS JUST AS 02:18.466 --> 02:20.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IMPORTANT HERE, IS THE HEALTH 02:20.466 --> 02:21.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CARE WORKERS. 02:21.500 --> 02:22.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEY ARE ON THE FRONT LINES. 02:22.633 --> 02:23.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE 02:23.600 --> 02:24.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ACTUALLY GONNA BE DEALING WITH 02:24.600 --> 02:25.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE PATIENTS. 02:25.466 --> 02:26.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHAT WE'VE ALREADY SEEN 02:26.500 --> 02:27.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DIFFERENT CASES AROUND THE 02:27.400 --> 02:28.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% COUNTRY POP UP WHERE NURSES WHO 02:28.833 --> 02:30.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WERE GETTING SICK OR DOCTORS WHO 02:30.133 --> 02:31.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ARE GETTING SICK OR SAYING, HEY, 02:31.566 --> 02:32.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I STILL DON'’T GET THESE TESTS. 02:32.900 --> 02:34.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF I CAN 02:34.166 --> 02:35.233 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HELP PEOPLE OR IF I WOULD 02:35.233 --> 02:36.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ACTUALLY BE A GREATER HARM TO 02:36.366 --> 02:37.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PEOPLE IF I GO OUT AND TOUCH 02:37.633 --> 02:38.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEM. 02:38.800 --> 02:40.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> YEAH, SO I THINK THEY'RE TWO 02:40.066 --> 02:41.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ELEMENTS HERE. 02:41.133 --> 02:42.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ONE IS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT 02:42.766 --> 02:43.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES WITH 02:43.900 --> 02:45.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TESTING AND TESTING CAPACITY IN 02:45.766 --> 02:48.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE U.S., AND SO THAT'S URGENT. 02:48.366 --> 02:50.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TESTING CAPACITY REALLY NEEDS TO 02:50.566 --> 02:51.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RAMP UP IN THE U.S. BECAUSE IF 02:51.666 --> 02:53.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CASES 02:53.566 --> 02:56.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ARE AND HOW MANY CASES THERE ARE 02:56.000 --> 02:57.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT'S GONNA PUT HEALTH CARE 02:57.266 --> 02:58.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WORKERS AT RISK. 02:58.766 --> 03:00.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE SECOND ISSUE IS SUPPLIES, 03:00.933 --> 03:02.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND SUPPLIES OF WHAT'S CALLED 03:02.766 --> 03:04.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% P.P.E., WHICH IS PERSONAL 03:04.066 --> 03:05.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT. 03:05.100 --> 03:06.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO THAT'S MASKS, GOWNS AND 03:06.400 --> 03:07.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GLOVES. 03:07.400 --> 03:09.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND WE ARE ALREADY HEARING THAT 03:09.033 --> 03:11.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HOSPITALS ARE BEING PREPARED FOR 03:11.366 --> 03:13.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THERE TO BE SCARCITY THERE. 03:13.166 --> 03:14.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND SO, THAT'S AN URGENT ISSUE, 03:14.666 --> 03:16.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND PART OF MY REPORTING IS 03:16.866 --> 03:18.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LOOKING AT THAT AND WHETHER 03:18.433 --> 03:19.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THERE'’S GOING TO BE ENOUGH AND 03:19.833 --> 03:21.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT'S SOMETHING THAT 03:21.066 --> 03:22.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GOVERNMENTS, BOTH ON LOCAL 03:22.666 --> 03:24.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LEVELS AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, 03:24.533 --> 03:25.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ARE GONNA HAVE TO REALLY BE 03:25.633 --> 03:26.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PREPARED FOR. 03:26.566 --> 03:27.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: SO, I KIND OF 03:27.333 --> 03:28.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HEAR YOU SAYING TWO THINGS HERE. 03:28.066 --> 03:29.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ON THE ONE HAND SPEED UP AND BE 03:29.766 --> 03:31.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% URGENT OF YOUR GOVERNMENT. 03:31.366 --> 03:32.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ON THE OTHER HAND, DON'T PANIC 03:32.433 --> 03:33.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IF YOU'’RE A CITIZEN. 03:33.400 --> 03:35.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> YES, SO, AND I THINK THAT YOU 03:35.200 --> 03:36.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE I'VE HEARD 03:36.533 --> 03:38.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SAYING, YOU KNOW, SHOULD I GO TO 03:38.566 --> 03:39.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% A CONCERT? 03:39.433 --> 03:40.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU KNOW, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I 03:40.533 --> 03:41.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WANT TO DO, AND I AND I TOTALLY 03:41.833 --> 03:43.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% UNDERSTAND THAT YOU WANTED, 03:43.000 --> 03:44.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LIKE, HAVE THE ANSWER. 03:44.733 --> 03:46.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT THERE ISN'T A BLANKET ANSWER 03:46.633 --> 03:48.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% FOR, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T JUST SAY 03:48.700 --> 03:50.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EVERYBODY-- YOU KNOW, HERE'S THE 03:50.566 --> 03:51.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BLANKET ANSWER. 03:51.566 --> 03:52.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHO YOU 03:52.633 --> 03:53.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ARE. 03:53.733 --> 03:55.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU KNOW, UH, HOW OLD YOU ARE. 03:55.666 --> 03:56.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHAT IS YOUR PERSONAL MEDICAL 03:56.800 --> 03:58.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HISTORY LOOK LIKE? 03:58.200 --> 03:59.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHERE YOU ARE IN THE COUNTRY. 03:59.866 --> 04:02.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THIS IS WHERE I REALLY URGE 04:02.033 --> 04:03.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO THEIR PUBLIC 04:03.500 --> 04:04.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HEALTH OFFICIALS. 04:04.700 --> 04:06.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE 04:06.100 --> 04:08.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TRAINED AND, AND KNOW, YOU KNOW 04:08.900 --> 04:10.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HOW TO RESPOND TO EPIDEMICS AND 04:10.166 --> 04:12.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHO ARE LOOKING AT THE DATA IN 04:12.833 --> 04:15.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOUR AREA, AND THEY ARE GOING TO 04:15.133 --> 04:16.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SAY, YOU KNOW, NOW IS THE TIME 04:16.900 --> 04:18.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHEN WE WANT TO STOP MASS 04:18.066 --> 04:19.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GATHERINGS IN THIS PARTICULAR 04:19.933 --> 04:23.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, AND SO YOU 04:23.066 --> 04:25.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HAVE TO MAKE THAT JUDGMENT CALL 04:25.933 --> 04:27.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% FOR YOURSELF AND LISTEN TO THOSE 04:27.400 --> 04:28.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS. 04:28.633 --> 04:29.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: SO, SPEAKING OF 04:29.633 --> 04:30.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS 04:30.800 --> 04:31.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YESTERDAY, FOR EXAMPLE, THE DAY 04:31.933 --> 04:32.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BEFORE THAT, THE F.D.A. SAID, 04:32.933 --> 04:34.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LOOK, WE'RE GONNA LAUNCH A 04:34.100 --> 04:35.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% 1,000,000 DIFFERENT TEST KITS. 04:35.200 --> 04:36.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEY ARE GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO 04:36.166 --> 04:37.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NONPUBLIC PARTNERS. 04:37.200 --> 04:38.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MAYBE THESE LABS THAT ARE 04:38.266 --> 04:39.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AROUND. 04:39.366 --> 04:40.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SHOULD I BE COMFORTED BY THE 04:40.600 --> 04:42.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NUMBER 1,000,000 TEST KITS? 04:42.566 --> 04:44.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> YEAH, SO A LOT OF MY 04:44.133 --> 04:45.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% REPORTING ACTUALLY SO FAR HAS 04:45.466 --> 04:46.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BEEN AROUND TESTING, AND ONE OF 04:46.833 --> 04:48.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE THINGS THAT REALLY HAS IRKED 04:48.600 --> 04:51.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ME IS IS THE NUMBERS THAT HAVE 04:51.866 --> 04:53.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BEEN PUTTING OUT HAVE BEEN 04:53.900 --> 04:56.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ATTACHED TO THE UNIT OF TEST 04:56.133 --> 04:58.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% KITS WE ARE TESTING, AND I THINK 04:58.433 --> 05:01.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHAT WE CARE ABOUT, IS PEOPLE. 05:01.333 --> 05:02.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE 05:02.800 --> 05:04.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CAN BE TESTED AND HOW MANY 05:04.200 --> 05:05.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TESTED. 05:05.700 --> 05:06.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND I THINK WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE 05:06.900 --> 05:10.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DON'T REALIZE IS THAT THERE ARE 05:10.733 --> 05:13.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LIMITATIONS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU 05:13.366 --> 05:14.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SEND OUT THESE KITS, IT ACTUALLY 05:14.966 --> 05:16.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO SET UP. 05:16.200 --> 05:17.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THE ANALOGY I'VE BEEN USING 05:17.466 --> 05:18.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IS THERE A LITTLE BIT LIKE BLUE 05:18.566 --> 05:20.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% APRON KITS, YOU KNOW THOSE? 05:20.100 --> 05:20.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: SURE. 05:20.833 --> 05:22.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> SO WHEN YOU SEND OUT A KIT TO 05:22.566 --> 05:24.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% A LAB, IT TAKES THEM A LITTLE 05:24.433 --> 05:25.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHILE TO SET THEM UP. 05:25.433 --> 05:26.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THEN THERE'S A MANPOWER 05:26.933 --> 05:28.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ISSUE AT A LOT OF THESE LABS. 05:28.366 --> 05:29.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO AT THE PUBLIC HEALTH LABS, 05:29.533 --> 05:30.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD BY THE 05:30.933 --> 05:32.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ASSOCIATION OF PUBLIC HEALTH 05:32.266 --> 05:34.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LABS IS THAT MOST OF THE LABS ON 05:34.266 --> 05:36.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AVERAGE CAN ONLY RUN ABOUT 100 05:36.700 --> 05:38.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SAMPLES A DAY. 05:38.100 --> 05:39.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NOW, WE'RE STILL NOT IN THE UNIT 05:39.533 --> 05:41.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT I CARE ABOUT, WHICH IS 05:41.433 --> 05:42.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PEOPLE. 05:42.200 --> 05:43.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO 100 SAMPLES A DAY. 05:43.600 --> 05:44.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU THEN HAVE TO DIVIDE THAT BY 05:44.866 --> 05:47.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TWO BECAUSE YOU MOSTLY RUN-- THE 05:47.500 --> 05:48.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RECOMMENDATION IS TO RUN TWO 05:48.700 --> 05:51.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SAMPLES PER PATIENT, SO YOU HAVE 05:51.000 --> 05:53.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% A DOUBLE CHECK TO CONFIRM. 05:53.566 --> 05:54.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO NOW YOU GOTTA DIVIDE THAT BY 05:54.400 --> 05:55.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TWO. 05:55.433 --> 05:57.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO THAT'S 50 PATIENTS A DAY AT 05:57.133 --> 05:58.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EACH LAB. 05:58.700 --> 06:00.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO I CAN TELL YOU 1,000,000 06:00.600 --> 06:01.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TESTS. 06:01.400 --> 06:02.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT SOUNDS GREAT. 06:02.533 --> 06:03.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT IF AT YOUR LOCAL LAB THAT 06:03.700 --> 06:06.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CAN ONLY RUN 50 PATIENTS A DAY, 06:06.066 --> 06:08.233 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT'’S A LIMITATION. 06:08.233 --> 06:09.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO THEN THE QUESTION IS, HOW 06:09.400 --> 06:10.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MANY LABS ARE THERE IN YOUR 06:10.433 --> 06:11.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AREA? 06:11.533 --> 06:13.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND HOW MANY PATIENTS A DAY CAN 06:13.166 --> 06:14.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEY RUN? 06:14.166 --> 06:16.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO I WAS URGING REPORTERS TO BE 06:16.466 --> 06:18.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ASKING THE QUESTION AND ASKING 06:18.500 --> 06:20.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE QUESTION IN THE UNITS OF 06:20.066 --> 06:22.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PATIENTS A DAY TO BE SAYING, YOU 06:22.033 --> 06:23.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% KNOW, HOW MANY LABS ARE THERE 06:23.200 --> 06:25.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IN MY AREA, FOR EXAMPLE, AND 06:25.266 --> 06:26.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ASKING THEM WHAT'S YOUR CAPACITY 06:26.933 --> 06:28.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IN TERMS OF PATIENTS PER DAY AND 06:28.733 --> 06:30.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ALSO ASKING, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALS 06:30.933 --> 06:33.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHEN THEY SAY WE RAN, YOU KNOW, 06:33.166 --> 06:35.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% X NUMBER OF TESTS, TO SAY, HOW 06:35.533 --> 06:36.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DOES THAT TRANSLATE TO PATIENTS? 06:36.866 --> 06:39.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HOW MANY PATIENTS DID YOU TEST? 06:39.433 --> 06:40.300 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: RIGHT. 06:40.300 --> 06:41.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS 06:41.333 --> 06:42.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CONCERNING PEOPLE SO MUCH IS 06:42.833 --> 06:43.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT THEY'VE HEARD DIFFERENT 06:43.900 --> 06:45.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RATES OF MORTALITY, OF HOW 06:45.733 --> 06:47.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DANGEROUS OR HOW DEADLY THIS IS. 06:47.900 --> 06:49.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AT FIRST WE HEARD IN CHINA IT 06:49.566 --> 06:50.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WAS OH, SOMEWHERE AROUND 2%. 06:50.966 --> 06:51.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THE WORLD HEALTH 06:51.800 --> 06:52.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ORGANIZATION, SAID, OH, MIGHT BE 06:52.700 --> 06:53.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% 3%. 06:53.766 --> 06:55.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND SO THERE'’S THIS UNKNOWN. 06:55.366 --> 06:56.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO HOW DO WE GET TO A BETTER 06:56.733 --> 06:57.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IDEA OF THIS? 06:57.700 --> 06:58.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU REALLY 06:58.866 --> 07:00.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CAN'T GET THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE 07:00.100 --> 07:01.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MORE NUMBERS TO BE ABLE TO 07:01.600 --> 07:02.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DIVIDE BY AND SAY HOW MANY 07:02.900 --> 07:04.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PEOPLE HAVE IT, HOW MANY PEOPLE 07:04.133 --> 07:05.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GOT WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE 07:05.100 --> 07:05.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DIDN'T. 07:05.966 --> 07:08.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> YEAH, SO ONE OF THE REALLY 07:08.766 --> 07:10.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TRICKY THINGS WHEN THERE IS AN 07:10.533 --> 07:13.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EPIDEMIC THAT IS ONGOING IS 07:13.066 --> 07:15.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PINNING DOWN THE MORTALITY RATE. 07:15.133 --> 07:16.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND I GUESS ONE THING I WANT 07:16.366 --> 07:17.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PEOPLE TO KNOW IS THAT AT THIS 07:17.600 --> 07:18.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% POINT IN TIME IT IS STILL AN 07:18.800 --> 07:19.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ESTIMATE. 07:19.900 --> 07:22.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND SO, IF YOU SEE A CHANGE FROM 07:22.400 --> 07:24.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WEEK TO WEEK WHERE IT WAS 2% AND 07:24.733 --> 07:26.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEN IT'S 3% IT DOESN'T MEAN, 07:26.666 --> 07:29.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LIKE, IT SUDDENLY BECAME MORE 07:29.000 --> 07:29.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DEADLY. 07:29.900 --> 07:31.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IT MEANS THAT THE ESTIMATE IS 07:31.000 --> 07:32.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SHIFTING, AND HOW IT'S 07:32.566 --> 07:33.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CALCULATED IS THE NUMBER OF 07:33.900 --> 07:36.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DEATHS REPORTED DIVIDED BY THE 07:36.200 --> 07:38.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NUMBER OF LABORATORY CONFIRMED 07:38.433 --> 07:39.300 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% INFECTIONS. 07:39.300 --> 07:40.300 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO 07:40.300 --> 07:41.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S 07:41.400 --> 07:42.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LABORATORY CONFIRMED, WHICH 07:42.933 --> 07:44.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MEANS THAT SOMEBODY HAD TO BE 07:44.166 --> 07:45.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TESTED. 07:45.600 --> 07:46.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND, LIKE, NORMALLY, I THINK 07:46.833 --> 07:48.300 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHEN WE THINK OF MORTALITY RATE, 07:48.300 --> 07:49.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU'RE REALLY THINKING LIKE IF I 07:49.466 --> 07:51.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GOT INFECTED WOULD I DIE, RIGHT? 07:51.600 --> 07:54.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO, WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW IS, YOU 07:54.166 --> 07:56.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% KNOW, AT THE BOTTOM IS HOW MANY 07:56.266 --> 07:57.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PEOPLE WERE INFECTED, AND RIGHT 07:57.566 --> 07:59.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NOW THAT'S REALLY, REALLY HARD 07:59.766 --> 08:01.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TO GET AN IDEA OF, BECAUSE NOT 08:01.200 --> 08:04.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EVERYBODY'S BEING TESTED RIGHT? 08:04.033 --> 08:05.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: SO NOT 08:05.033 --> 08:06.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EVERYBODY'S REPORTING, NOT 08:06.100 --> 08:07.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EVERYONE IS INSIDE THE 08:07.033 --> 08:08.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GOVERNMENT DATA. 08:08.000 --> 08:09.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> YEAH, SO IT IS POSSIBLE THAT 08:09.000 --> 08:10.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO GOT 08:10.666 --> 08:12.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% INFECTED, BUT THEY THEY DIDN'T 08:12.266 --> 08:13.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EVEN REALIZE THAT THEY WERE 08:13.566 --> 08:15.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% INFECTED OR THEY HAD A MILDER 08:15.366 --> 08:17.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ILLNESS, AND SO THEY DIDN'T GET 08:17.400 --> 08:19.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% A CHANCE TO GO SEE A DOCTOR. 08:19.666 --> 08:22.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO THAT DENOMINATOR IS SOMETHING 08:22.266 --> 08:23.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT SCIENTISTS ARE STILL TRYING 08:23.833 --> 08:24.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TO FIGURE OUT AT THIS POINT IN 08:24.800 --> 08:25.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TIME. 08:25.633 --> 08:26.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO I THINK WHAT'S REALLY 08:26.733 --> 08:28.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IMPORTANT TO KNOW IS THAT THIS 08:28.033 --> 08:30.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IS MORE DEADLY THAN THE FLU. 08:30.133 --> 08:31.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND IN PARTICULAR, THERE'S 08:31.633 --> 08:33.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ENOUGH DATA RIGHT NOW TO KNOW 08:33.066 --> 08:34.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT IT IS A REALLY DANGEROUS 08:34.766 --> 08:36.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DISEASE, PARTICULARLY FOR THE 08:36.433 --> 08:37.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ELDERLY. 08:37.266 --> 08:38.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT'’S IMPORTANT TO KNOW. 08:38.400 --> 08:39.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I THINK SCIENTISTS ARE ALSO 08:39.666 --> 08:41.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO SAY THAT IT 08:41.266 --> 08:42.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IS LESS DEADLY THAN A DISEASE 08:42.933 --> 08:44.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LIKE SARS, WHERE THE FATALITY 08:44.666 --> 08:46.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RATE ENDED UP BEING IN THE 08:46.033 --> 08:47.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BALLPARK OF 9%-10%. 08:47.800 --> 08:48.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: RIGHT. 08:48.566 --> 08:50.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO, REGARDLESS, REGARDLESS OF 08:50.333 --> 08:51.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHETHER IT'S 2% OR 3% THAT 08:51.666 --> 08:52.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DOESN'T MEAN STOP WASHING YOUR 08:52.800 --> 08:53.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HANDS AND NOW EVERYTHING'S FINE 08:53.933 --> 08:54.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BECAUSE IT'S TWO, RIGHT? 08:54.766 --> 08:56.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE STILL HAVE TO BE-- 08:56.266 --> 08:57.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> IT'S DANGEROUS DISEASE AND IT 08:57.766 --> 08:59.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NEEDS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. 08:59.600 --> 09:01.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT I THINK THAT FREAKING OUT 09:01.466 --> 09:04.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% OVER 2% VERSUS 3%, LIKE, I THINK 09:04.333 --> 09:06.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT'S NOT VERY HELPFUL RIGHT 09:06.200 --> 09:07.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NOW, AND I DON'T THINK IT REALLY 09:07.566 --> 09:08.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MAKES A DIFFERENCE TO THE 09:08.900 --> 09:11.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU 09:11.000 --> 09:12.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% KNOW THOSE TWO NUMBERS, WHAT'S 09:12.633 --> 09:13.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE DIFFERENCE? 09:13.400 --> 09:14.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY 09:14.533 --> 09:16.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ACTIONABLE STEPS WE CAN TAKE 09:16.000 --> 09:17.233 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BETWEEN THAT SORT OF 09:17.233 --> 09:18.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PERCENTAGE CHANGE. 09:18.266 --> 09:19.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: WHAT ABOUT THE 09:19.433 --> 09:20.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% NOTION OF WHAT IS ESSENTIAL AND 09:20.466 --> 09:21.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHAT IS NON ESSENTIAL TRAVEL AND 09:21.766 --> 09:22.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HOW DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS AROUND 09:22.733 --> 09:24.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE WORLD ARE REACTING TO THIS? 09:24.566 --> 09:27.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I MEAN, IN A WAY, CHINA HAD THE 09:27.600 --> 09:29.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SORT OF ADVANTAGE DISADVANTAGE 09:29.000 --> 09:30.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% OF NOT BEING SUCH A FREE 09:30.000 --> 09:30.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SOCIETY. 09:30.833 --> 09:32.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT THEY CAN ALSO JUST DECIDE 09:32.000 --> 09:33.300 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE'’RE GONNA CLOSE THIS DOWN. 09:33.300 --> 09:34.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE'’RE NOT GONNA LET X TRAVEL. 09:34.733 --> 09:35.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE CAN QUARANTINE X MILLIONS OF 09:35.900 --> 09:37.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% PEOPLE, OR EVEN NORTHERN ITALY. 09:37.900 --> 09:39.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LAST NIGHT THEY DECIDE, OKAY, 09:39.200 --> 09:42.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THIS WHOLE SECTION, UH, COMPARED 09:42.000 --> 09:43.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TO, I JUST DON'T SEE NEW 09:43.366 --> 09:44.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YORKERS, FOR EXAMPLE, SAYING, 09:44.433 --> 09:45.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YEAH, YOU CAN'T REALLY GO TO THE 09:45.366 --> 09:47.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BRONX. 09:47.200 --> 09:49.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO, IT'S A IT'S A HARD THING TO 09:49.733 --> 09:50.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% FIGURE OUT. 09:50.566 --> 09:53.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 09:53.333 --> 09:54.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ANTHONY FAUCI SAYING WE PROBABLY 09:54.633 --> 09:55.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WON'T SEE THOSE KINDS OF 09:55.900 --> 09:56.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RESTRICTIONS IN THE UNITED 09:56.633 --> 09:57.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% STATES. 09:57.433 --> 09:58.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DOES THAT MAKE THIS KIND OF 09:58.433 --> 10:00.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THING SPREAD FASTER? 10:00.566 --> 10:02.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO 10:02.500 --> 10:04.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BE MOVING FREELY? 10:04.933 --> 10:07.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> YES, IN A TECHNICAL SENSE. 10:07.966 --> 10:09.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I MEAN, IF YOU JUST LOCKED 10:09.533 --> 10:10.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EVERYONE UP IN THEIR ROOMS AT 10:10.900 --> 10:11.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HOME, THEN YES, 10:11.866 --> 10:12.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: IT WOULDN'T 10:12.600 --> 10:14.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SPREAD. 10:14.500 --> 10:17.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> AND YES, I DO THINK THAT IN 10:17.033 --> 10:19.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GENERAL, THE U.S. TENDS TO NOT 10:19.866 --> 10:21.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IMPOSE THAT TYPE OF THING. 10:21.466 --> 10:23.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I'’M NOT A POLITICIAN. 10:23.200 --> 10:24.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I CAN'T FORECAST WHAT THE U.S. 10:24.800 --> 10:26.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WILL OR WOULDN'’T DO. 10:26.466 --> 10:27.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT I DO THINK THAT THIS IS 10:27.633 --> 10:30.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHERE WE DO HAVE TO LISTEN TO 10:30.166 --> 10:31.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% OUR PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS 10:31.533 --> 10:32.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AGAIN. 10:32.466 --> 10:34.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I SAY, AND, AND I HOPE THAT 10:34.466 --> 10:36.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% REPORTERS IN PARTICULAR WILL 10:36.166 --> 10:38.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WILL LISTEN MORE TO THE PUBLIC 10:38.766 --> 10:39.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HEALTH OFFICIALS AND TO THE 10:39.833 --> 10:42.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SCIENTISTS HERE OVER IN TERMS OF 10:42.400 --> 10:43.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING THAT 10:43.966 --> 10:45.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE DO FOR CITIZENS. 10:45.400 --> 10:48.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% UM, AND AGAIN, I, I RECOMMEND 10:48.400 --> 10:50.333 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT PEOPLE REALLY PAY ATTENTION 10:50.333 --> 10:51.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TO THE BASICS. 10:51.266 --> 10:52.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LIKE IT REALLY DOESN'T HELP TO 10:52.666 --> 10:56.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GET SUPER HUNG UP ON, YOU KNOW, 10:56.500 --> 10:59.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% A PLANE VERSUS A TRAIN IF YOU 10:59.200 --> 11:01.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DON'T WASH YOUR HANDS AT ALL 11:01.100 --> 11:03.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% RIGHT. 11:03.000 --> 11:05.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT SORT OF PERSONAL HYGIENE 11:05.066 --> 11:06.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HABIT CAN MAKE A HUGE 11:06.733 --> 11:07.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DIFFERENCE. 11:07.866 --> 11:09.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THAT'S WHY YOU KNOW, THE 11:09.366 --> 11:10.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% C.D.C. AND ALL THE PUBLIC HEALTH 11:10.866 --> 11:12.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% OFFICIALS KEEP SAYING THAT OVER 11:12.166 --> 11:13.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND OVER AGAIN, LIKE, LEARN HOW 11:13.433 --> 11:15.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TO WASH YOUR HANDS PROPERLY. 11:15.066 --> 11:16.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WASH YOUR HANDS OFTEN. 11:16.600 --> 11:18.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LIKE, THOSE THINGS MAKE A VERY 11:18.200 --> 11:19.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BIG DIFFERENCE. 11:19.100 --> 11:20.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DON'’T GO OUTSIDE IF YOU'’RE SICK. 11:20.900 --> 11:22.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T 11:22.033 --> 11:23.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HAVE A LOT OF TESTING CAPACITY. 11:23.533 --> 11:25.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM. 11:25.733 --> 11:27.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT YOU CAN HELP EVERYONE BY 11:27.700 --> 11:29.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% STAYING HOME IF YOU ARE SICK, 11:29.133 --> 11:30.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHETHER IT IS THE FLU YOU HAVE, 11:30.933 --> 11:32.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHICH IS STILL MORE LIKELY, 11:32.266 --> 11:34.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% FRANKLY, OR THE CORONAVIRUS, 11:34.700 --> 11:37.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BECAUSE IF YOU STAY HOME BECAUSE 11:37.433 --> 11:38.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU HAVE THE FLU, YOU'RE ALSO 11:38.766 --> 11:41.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HELPING TO DECREASE THE BURDEN 11:41.166 --> 11:43.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ON THE HEALTH SYSTEM AS A WHOLE. 11:43.200 --> 11:44.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THAT'’S HELPFUL. 11:44.666 --> 11:45.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: ONE OF THE 11:45.700 --> 11:47.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THINGS THAT PEOPLE GET CONCERNED 11:47.600 --> 11:49.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% ABOUT IS HOW THE MATH WORKS OUT, 11:49.700 --> 11:50.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THEY SEE THESE NUMBERS 11:50.800 --> 11:51.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% GROWING AND THEY SEE THESE 11:51.766 --> 11:52.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% INFECTIONS SPREADING. 11:52.700 --> 11:54.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT AS WE WERE TALKING EARLIER 11:54.633 --> 11:57.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT THERE IS ACTUALLY A WAY TO 11:57.000 --> 11:59.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CUT THAT MATH DOWN JUST THROUGH 11:59.066 --> 12:00.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EDUCATION. 12:00.733 --> 12:02.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> RIGHT, AND, AND-- 12:02.600 --> 12:03.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan IF WE CHANGED OUR 12:03.566 --> 12:04.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BEHAVIORS THAT MATH DOESN'T HAVE 12:04.733 --> 12:05.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TO PLAY OUT THE SAME WAY. 12:05.833 --> 12:07.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> RIGHT, AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS 12:07.400 --> 12:09.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% JUST TALKING ABOUT, WHICH IS 12:09.000 --> 12:12.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EVERYBODY DOING THEIR PART TO 12:12.400 --> 12:13.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HAVE GOOD PERSONAL HYGIENE 12:13.533 --> 12:14.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HABITS. 12:14.566 --> 12:16.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% STAY HOME IF YOU'RE SICK AND WE 12:16.466 --> 12:18.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SHOULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THIS, 12:18.266 --> 12:19.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE 12:19.900 --> 12:22.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SYMPTOMS OF COVID-19? 12:22.900 --> 12:24.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THE FIRST PRESENTING 12:24.600 --> 12:28.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SYMPTOMS IN MOST CASES ARE FEVER 12:28.166 --> 12:30.166 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND A COUGH, NOT A RUNNY NOSE. 12:30.166 --> 12:31.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE 12:31.100 --> 12:32.233 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% KNOW THAT. 12:32.233 --> 12:33.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THEN, WHAT SHOULD YOU DO IF 12:33.700 --> 12:35.733 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU DO FEEL SICK? 12:35.733 --> 12:37.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE DON'T WANT EVERYONE TO RUSH 12:37.366 --> 12:38.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TO THE E.R. 12:38.533 --> 12:39.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THAT WOULD OVERBURDEN THE HEALTH 12:39.866 --> 12:41.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CARE SYSTEM AND PROBABLY 12:41.433 --> 12:42.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% INCREASE SPREAD. 12:42.600 --> 12:44.066 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO THE RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW 12:44.066 --> 12:47.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IS TO CALL, TO MAKE A CALL, CALL 12:47.000 --> 12:49.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOUR DOCTOR, CALL YOUR PROVIDER. 12:49.200 --> 12:50.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE FEELING 12:50.133 --> 12:52.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% REALLY SICK, YOU KNOW, CALL 911 12:52.900 --> 12:53.700 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% IF YOU NEED TO. 12:53.700 --> 12:55.366 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT IT'S PICK UP THE PHONE FIRST 12:55.366 --> 12:56.766 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BECAUSE THAT HELPS THE HEALTH 12:56.766 --> 12:58.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SYSTEM TO TRIAGE YOU AND TELL 12:58.500 --> 12:59.866 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU WHAT TO DO. 12:59.866 --> 13:01.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND I WAS JUST ON THE PHONE THIS 13:01.266 --> 13:03.300 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% MORNING WITH WITH WITH THE 13:03.300 --> 13:04.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN AND ASKING 13:04.633 --> 13:05.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% HIM, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN 13:05.566 --> 13:06.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOUR AREA? 13:06.400 --> 13:07.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND IT'S GOING TO VARY SO MUCH 13:07.566 --> 13:08.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% FROM SYSTEM TO SYSTEM. 13:08.566 --> 13:09.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEY'RE ALL KIND OF WORKING OUT 13:09.566 --> 13:10.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THEIR CASES. 13:10.433 --> 13:11.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND HE WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF 13:11.600 --> 13:13.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO ARE BASED ON 13:13.100 --> 13:14.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% EITHER IN YOUR TRAVEL HISTORY OR 13:14.566 --> 13:16.266 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU KNOW 13:16.266 --> 13:17.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHERE, WHERE WE THOUGHT THAT YOU 13:17.800 --> 13:20.433 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WERE A LIKELY CANDIDATE TO HAVE 13:20.433 --> 13:22.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% COVID-19, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO 13:22.566 --> 13:24.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SOMETHING LIKE, SAY, YOU KNOW, 13:24.033 --> 13:25.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE WANT YOU TO COME TO A 13:25.600 --> 13:27.533 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% DESIGNATED LOCATION, BUT STAY IN 13:27.533 --> 13:29.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOUR CAR. 13:29.133 --> 13:30.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% YOU KNOW, DON'T WALK RIGHT INTO 13:30.466 --> 13:31.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THE EMERGENCY ROOM WHERE YOU 13:31.833 --> 13:33.200 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% COULD INFECT OTHER PEOPLE. 13:33.200 --> 13:34.633 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% BUT YOU STAY IN YOUR CAR UNTIL 13:34.633 --> 13:36.500 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE'’RE READY TO COME GET YOU. 13:36.500 --> 13:38.600 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND WE CAN HAVE OUR PEOPLE, YOU 13:38.600 --> 13:40.566 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% KNOW, GOWN UP APPROPRIATELY SO 13:40.566 --> 13:41.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WE CAN REDUCE OUR RISK OF 13:41.833 --> 13:42.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% INFECTION. 13:42.833 --> 13:43.900 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% AND THEN WE CAN COME GET YOU 13:43.900 --> 13:44.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% WHEN YOU'’RE READY, YOU KNOW? 13:44.933 --> 13:46.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO THAT HELPS THEM. 13:46.033 --> 13:46.800 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: LIKE THOSE 13:46.800 --> 13:47.966 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LITTLE BUZZERS IN RESTAURANTS. 13:47.966 --> 13:49.033 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> YEAH, EXACTLY! 13:49.033 --> 13:50.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: DON'T WAIT IN 13:50.000 --> 13:51.133 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LINE AROUND PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL 13:51.133 --> 13:51.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% COUGHING AROUND YOU. 13:51.933 --> 13:53.000 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> YEAH. 13:53.000 --> 13:54.100 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% SO ALL THESE ACTIONS THAT WE, AS 13:54.100 --> 13:57.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CITIZENS CAN TAKE CAN ALSO HELP 13:57.400 --> 13:59.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% LOWER THE CHANCES OF 13:59.400 --> 14:00.833 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% TRANSMISSION INCREASING. 14:00.833 --> 14:01.666 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> Sreenivasan: ALL RIGHT. 14:01.666 --> 14:02.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% CAROLINE CHEN FROM PROPUBLICA. 14:02.466 --> 14:03.400 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. 14:03.400 --> 14:03.933 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.