WEBVTT 00:02.936 --> 00:06.006 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> THIS IS NC SPIN, AN UNREHEARSED DISCUSSION 00:06.106 --> 00:08.641 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ON ISSUES OF INTEREST TO NORTH CAROLINIANS. 00:08.742 --> 00:11.578 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NOW, HERE'S YOUR MODERATOR, TOM CAMPBELL. 00:12.979 --> 00:15.215 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> THANKS FOR WATCHING THIS WEEK'S NC SPIN. 00:15.315 --> 00:16.950 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS STUDENTS IN 00:17.050 --> 00:19.819 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS WILL RETURN TO THE CLASSROOM 00:19.919 --> 00:22.188 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% AND THIS WEEK WE ASK OUR PANEL TO COMMENT ON 00:22.288 --> 00:24.991 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% SEVERAL HOT-BUTTON EDUCATION ISSUES. 00:25.091 --> 00:27.193 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% WE ALSO DISCUSS A BILL BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE 00:27.293 --> 00:30.397 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT COULD CHANGE THE WAY ELECTRIC RATES ARE DECIDED. 00:30.497 --> 00:32.665 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AND, AS ALWAYS, WE ASK THE PANEL TO TELL US SOMETHING 00:32.766 --> 00:33.967 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% WE DON'T KNOW. 00:34.067 --> 00:35.735 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THIS WEEK'S PANEL INCLUDES 00:35.835 --> 00:42.809 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% DONNA MARTINEZ, JOHN LOCKE FOUNDATION/WPTF RADIO 00:42.909 --> 00:45.745 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% JOHN HOOD, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST AND AUTHOR 00:45.845 --> 00:48.415 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% CHRIS FITZSIMON, DIRECTOR, THE NEWSROOM 00:48.515 --> 00:51.818 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% ROB SCHOFIELD, DIRECTOR, NC POLICY WATCH 00:51.918 --> 00:54.287 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WE BEGIN OUR UNINTERRUPTED DEBATE AFTER THESE BRIEF 00:54.387 --> 00:56.456 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% MESSAGES FROM OUR UNDERWRITERS. 00:59.159 --> 01:01.327 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> FROM CREATING THE NEWEST MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY 01:01.428 --> 01:04.230 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% TO HELPING A LOVED ONE MAKE END OF LIFE DECISIONS 01:04.330 --> 01:07.333 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% YOUR FAMILY PHYSICIAN IS WITH YOU EVERY STEP, 01:07.434 --> 01:10.837 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR EVERY STAGE OF LIFE FOR EVERY MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY. 01:10.937 --> 01:12.872 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% DESPITE A HEALTH CARE LANDSCAPE FRAUGHT 01:12.972 --> 01:16.609 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WITH POTENTIAL LANDMINES FAMILY PHYSICIANS ACROSS NORTH CAROLINA 01:17.043 --> 01:19.712 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ARE PROVIDING YOU A LIFETIME OF COMMITTED 01:19.813 --> 01:21.648 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% DEPENDABLE MEDICAL CARE. 01:22.282 --> 01:26.219 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FAMILY PHYSICIANS YOUR TRUSTED HEALTH CARE ADVISOR FOR LIFE. 01:28.955 --> 01:31.191 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% - [WOMAN] LIFE'S BUSY BUT YOU'RE IN CONTROL. 01:31.291 --> 01:33.093 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% AS AN ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE MEMBER, 01:33.193 --> 01:35.495 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% YOU HAVE ACCESS TO LOTS OF TOOLS TO HELP MANAGE 01:35.595 --> 01:37.697 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOUR HOME ENERGY USE AND BUDGET, 01:37.797 --> 01:40.600 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% SO YOU CAN FOCUS ON WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT. 01:42.335 --> 01:44.237 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% - [PRESENTER] NC SPIN IS BROUGHT TO YOU IN PART 01:44.337 --> 01:46.239 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% BY THE NORTH CAROLINA FARM BUREAU. 01:46.339 --> 01:48.041 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE FARM BUREAU AND AGRICULTURE, 01:48.141 --> 01:50.276 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WE KEEP NORTH CAROLINA GROWING. 01:51.411 --> 01:52.445 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% >> LET'S GET TO IT. 01:52.545 --> 01:55.181 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% IT WON'T BE LONG BEFORE SCHOOL BELLS RING IN A NEW 01:55.281 --> 01:57.484 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% YEAR BUT FEWER STUDENTS WILL BE ATTENDING OUR 01:57.584 --> 01:58.885 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS. 01:58.985 --> 02:00.920 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% WE WANT TO ASK OUR PANEL ABOUT THE POSSIBLE 02:01.020 --> 02:04.357 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% RE-SEGREGATION OF OUR SCHOOLS, TESTING, A 02:04.457 --> 02:07.927 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING READING ASSESSMENTS AND 02:08.027 --> 02:09.362 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% OTHER HOT-BUTTON EDUCATION ISSUES. 02:09.462 --> 02:11.798 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% ROB SCHOFIELD, RECENTLY IT 02:11.898 --> 02:14.434 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% WAS REVEALED THAT ONLY 80 PERCENT OF K-12 STUDENTS 02:14.534 --> 02:16.903 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% NOW ATTEND TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS. 02:17.003 --> 02:19.973 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THE NUMBER ATTENDING CHARTERS, PRIVATE AND HOME 02:20.073 --> 02:22.142 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% SCHOOLED HAS SURGED IN RECENT YEARS. 02:22.242 --> 02:24.477 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% IS THIS A RESULT OF THE SCHOOL CHOICE MOVEMENT? 02:24.577 --> 02:26.012 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> WELL TOM THIS A BIG TOPIC I THINK WE WE COULD SPEND THE 02:26.112 --> 02:28.681 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WHOLE HALF HOUR JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS TOPIC ALONE, BUT 02:28.781 --> 02:30.183 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THHERE'S 3 QUICK POINTS, I WANT TO MAKE. 02:30.283 --> 02:31.851 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% NUMBER ONE, I THINK IT'S A BAD THING. 02:31.951 --> 02:34.487 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% I THINK IT SCHOOLS ARE PUBLIC SCHOOLS OR WHERE WE 02:34.587 --> 02:36.990 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% COME TOGETHER AS A SOCIETY WHERE KIDS LEARN TO READ AND 02:37.090 --> 02:39.626 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WRITE AND TO THINK IN ALL THOSE IMPORTANT THINGS BUT IT'S ALSO 02:39.726 --> 02:42.195 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WHAT WE LEARNED SOCIAL VALUES THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE SOCIAL 02:42.295 --> 02:46.032 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COHESION IS SO CRITICAL TO OUR SOCIETY. GOING FORWARD OUR KIDS 02:46.132 --> 02:48.635 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% NEED TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH OTHER PEOPLE NUMBER 2 SCHOOL 02:48.735 --> 02:51.204 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CHOICE MOVEMENT CLEARLY PLAYING A ROLE IN THAT I ALSO THINK THE 02:51.304 --> 02:54.107 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MOVE TO RE SEGREGATE ARE SCHOOLS THAT YOU ALLUDED TO IS 02:54.207 --> 02:57.143 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% A BIG DRIVER OF THIS. AND THE 3RD POINT I'LL MAKE IS THAT, 02:57.243 --> 02:59.445 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% I THINK IT'S REALLY BEING DRIVEN FIRST AND FOREMOST BY 02:59.546 --> 03:02.081 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ARE SUSTAINED US INVESTMENT AND PUBLIC EDUCATION, THE REASON 03:02.182 --> 03:04.684 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PARENTS ARE OPTING OUT IN MANY INSTANCES OF SENDING THEIR 03:04.784 --> 03:06.786 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% PARENT THEIR KIDS TO TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS. IT'S 03:06.886 --> 03:08.821 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SMALL CLASS SIZES. THEY DON'T HAVE 03:08.922 --> 03:11.491 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THE ONE ON ONE ATTENTION THAT THEY WANT FOR THE KIDS THAT 03:11.591 --> 03:13.793 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WILL HAVE THE TEXTBOOKS, THE MATERIALS ALL THOSE THINGS THAT 03:13.893 --> 03:16.296 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WE'RE UNDER FUNDING IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. 03:16.396 --> 03:17.964 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> LET'S BEAR DOWN ON SOME OF THIS. 03:18.064 --> 03:19.232 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WE'VE SEEN SOME REPORTS THAT 03:19.332 --> 03:25.205 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SHOW THAT 30% OF THE CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE 80% WHITE, WHICH IS 03:25.305 --> 03:29.042 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% A STARK CONTRAST TO THE MAJORITY OF THE TRADITIONAL 03:29.142 --> 03:32.812 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHOOLS, ONLY 14% HAVE THAT MUCH IN 30% OF THE STUDENTS ARE 03:32.912 --> 03:37.183 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LOW INCOME IN CHARTERS WHERE IS IT'S 50 50 IN MOST TRADITIONAL 03:37.283 --> 03:41.621 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHOOLS. A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THE PART OF THE REASON FOR THIS 03:41.721 --> 03:44.157 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IS THE FACT THAT CHARTER SCHOOLS DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE 03:44.257 --> 03:46.559 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TRANSPORTATION FOR THEIR STUDENTS AND THEY ALSO DON'T 03:46.659 --> 03:51.297 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAVE TO PROVIDE A BREAKFAST IN MUCH THE HOW BIG A FACTOR DO 03:51.397 --> 03:53.633 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% YOU THINK THIS IS IN THE POSSIBLE 03:53.733 --> 03:55.468 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% RESEGREGATING OF SCHOOLS? 03:55.568 --> 03:58.705 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> PARENTS ARE MAKING CHOICES AND IN SOME CASES PARENTS ARE 03:58.805 --> 04:02.675 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BANDING TOGETHER. AND SO THEY CAN CAR POOL THEY CAN DO 04:02.775 --> 04:06.412 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THINGS AND NO DOUBT THAT EVERY FAMILY LOOKS AT DIFFERENT 04:06.512 --> 04:09.449 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THEM AIRPORT AND TO THEIR KIDS 04:09.549 --> 04:12.151 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% I DON'T THINK YOU CAN JUST SAY WELL, IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS OR 04:12.252 --> 04:16.155 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IT'S BECAUSE OF THAT. FOR ME MY VIEW IS THAT WHAT'S WINNING IS 04:16.256 --> 04:20.593 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% A STORY REALLY OF HOPE. IT'S A STORY OF OPPORTUNITY NO LONGER 04:20.693 --> 04:24.230 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEPEND PARENTS HAVE TO JUST SAY WELL, THIS IS IT IF MY SON OR 04:24.330 --> 04:27.500 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% DAUGHTER IS DOING WELL GREAT. BUT MY SON OR DAUGHTER ISN'T 04:27.600 --> 04:31.170 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% DOING WELL. I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A CHOICE TO DO SOMETHING 04:31.271 --> 04:34.073 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ELSE SO I DON'T SEE THIS AS A NEGATIVE AT ALL NO ONE'S BEING 04:34.173 --> 04:37.610 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% COERCED TO DO ANYTHING THIS IS ABOUT PARENTS FINALLY HAVING 04:37.710 --> 04:38.878 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% MORE OF A SAY. 04:38.978 --> 04:42.382 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> JOHN THAT THE FACTS ARE INESCAPABLE WE LOST 6500 KIDS 04:42.482 --> 04:44.384 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% IN TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS LAST YEAR. 04:44.484 --> 04:47.153 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> WHO IS WE, EXACTLY? >> THE TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS. 04:47.253 --> 04:49.956 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> THE DISTRICT SCHOOLS HAD A DECLINE IN ENROLLMENT 04:50.056 --> 04:52.425 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MUCH OF IT BECAUSE OF HOME SCHOOLING AND CHARTER SCHOOLING 04:52.525 --> 04:55.428 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% AND A LITTLE BIT IN THE PRIVATE SCHOOLING AREA, I 04:55.528 --> 04:58.364 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DISAGREE WITH ROB ABOUT HIS FINAL EXPLANATION, I JUST DON'T 04:58.464 --> 05:01.501 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THINK IT COMPORT WITH REALITY THESE ARE THESE ARE FAMILIES 05:01.601 --> 05:03.670 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT ARE LEAVING THE VAST MAJORITY OF CASES TO SCHOOLS 05:03.770 --> 05:06.406 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT HAVE LESS MONEY THE DISH RISK ULTIMATELY DID BECAUSE 05:06.506 --> 05:09.709 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ADDITIONAL SCHOOLS, BLACK MONEY BECAUSE OTHERWISE THEY WHY 05:09.809 --> 05:12.345 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WOULD THEY LEAVE THEY'RE GOING TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS THAT ARE 05:12.445 --> 05:16.549 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ALMOST ALWAYS LOWER COSTS AND LOWER REVENUE OR TO CHARTER 05:16.649 --> 05:18.751 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% SCHOOLS WHICH HAVE LOWER AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAN THE 05:18.851 --> 05:21.921 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DISTRICT'S SCHOOLS. I THINK IT IS A CHOICE DISCUSSION. I THINK 05:22.021 --> 05:24.524 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THERE ARE SOME AFFECTS IN THE 05:24.624 --> 05:26.693 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% COMPOSITION OF THE ROLE THAT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH THINGS 05:26.793 --> 05:29.796 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% LIKE TRANSPORTATION. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY TRUE, BUT I 05:29.896 --> 05:32.765 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ALSO THINK THAT FOR EXAMPLE, CHARTER SCHOOLS DON'T HAVE A 05:32.865 --> 05:35.134 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LOWER PERCENTAGE OF AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS, THE DISTRICT 05:35.234 --> 05:37.804 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SCHOOLS TO THE REAL DIFFERENCES, HISPANIC STUDENTS 05:37.904 --> 05:40.173 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THAT'S WHERE THE THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF 05:40.273 --> 05:43.076 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHITE STUDENTS, A LOW PERCENTAGE OF HISPANIC STUDENTS 05:43.176 --> 05:45.478 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IN CHARTER SCHOOLS IS NOT SO MUCH ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICANS. 05:45.578 --> 05:47.480 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> THIS WAS GREAT, BUT ONE THING WE'VE LEFT A LITTLE BIT 05:47.580 --> 05:50.016 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AS THE NOT JUST THE BUDGET MEMBER WE'RE FUNDING PUBLIC 05:50.116 --> 05:51.517 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SCHOOLS, ROB IS RIGHT, LESS PER CAPITA THAN WE WERE BEFORE THE 05:51.617 --> 05:55.154 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GREAT RECESSION. BUT WE ALSO BEEN THROUGH A PERIOD OF ATTACK 05:55.254 --> 05:57.924 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ON PUBLIC SCHOOLS, GOVERNMENT MONOPOLY SCHOOLS. WE GIVE 05:58.024 --> 06:00.093 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SCHOOLS AN "F" IF THEY HAVE A LOT OF POOR KIDS IN THEM 06:00.193 --> 06:02.862 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AUTOMATICALLY, IMAGINE IF YOUR KID SOMEWHERE, NORTH CAROLINA 06:02.962 --> 06:05.264 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AND YOUR KIDS DOING OKAY IN SCHOOL AND YOU GET A BIG FAT F 06:05.365 --> 06:08.534 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IN THE MAIL OR YOU SEE OH MY GOSH MY 06:08.634 --> 06:11.170 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% KID'S SCHOOL IS TERRIBLE, WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY NOT AND THE 06:11.270 --> 06:13.706 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% KIDS ARE IMPROVING. THERE'S A LOT OF THAT MIXED MESSAGES THAT 06:13.806 --> 06:15.675 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% HAVE BEEN SAID ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION BY THE FOLKS IN 06:15.775 --> 06:18.511 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% CHARGE AND WE ALSO I THINK PROBABLY HAVE FLIPPED OUT 06:18.611 --> 06:21.447 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ANOTHER DRIVING FORCE WHICH IS A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE MAKING A 06:21.547 --> 06:23.282 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% LOT OF MONEY ON THE PRIVATIZATION OF PUBLIC 06:23.383 --> 06:25.685 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% EDUCATION CHARTER SCHOOL CHAINS, EVEN THOUGH THE 06:25.785 --> 06:28.087 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CHARTERS THERE ARE NONPROFITS ARE LEASING FIRM FOR PROFIT 06:28.187 --> 06:30.857 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CORPORATIONS, THERE'S BIG MONEY IN EDUCATION THAT THE STATE 06:30.957 --> 06:32.925 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% USED TO PAY FOR THAT NOW PRIVATE COMPANIES ARE MAKING 06:33.025 --> 06:34.227 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% MONEY OFF. 06:34.327 --> 06:36.562 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I AGREE THAT THIS IS ANTI PUBLIC SCHOOL WHATSOEVER THAT 06:36.662 --> 06:38.898 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOL CLASSROOMS -- 06:38.998 --> 06:40.833 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> DIDN'T SAY ANYONE IS MAKING MONEY OFF OF IT. 06:40.933 --> 06:42.335 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> IT'S NOT ANTI PUBLIC SCHOOL 06:42.435 --> 06:44.404 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO WANT TO GIVE PARENTS CHOICES SO WITH 06:44.504 --> 06:46.906 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% YOUR EXAMPLE CHRIS, WHAT THAT IMAGINE THAT YOU'RE THE 06:47.006 --> 06:50.143 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PARENT WHOSE CHILD COMES HOME AND ISN'T DOING WELL FOR ALL 06:50.243 --> 06:53.012 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SORTS OF REASONS, MAYBE IF YOUR CHILD IS BEING BULLIED MAYBE 06:53.112 --> 06:56.182 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY HAVE AN APTITUDE IT'S NOT BEING ADDRESSED MAYBE THEY JUST 06:56.282 --> 07:00.052 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THEY CAN'T DO WELL IN A LARGE CLASSROOM OR SMALL CLASSROOM. 07:00.153 --> 07:01.387 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% WHY WOULD A PARENT 07:01.487 --> 07:04.524 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NOT BE ABLE TO SAY, LOOK THIS IS MY CHILD I WANT THE BEST FOR 07:04.624 --> 07:06.192 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% THAT CHILD. >> THEY CAN SAY THAT. 07:06.292 --> 07:09.128 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% [BOTH DEBATING] 07:09.228 --> 07:09.962 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> THEY'VE ALWAYS A CHOICE 07:10.062 --> 07:11.664 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE QUESTION IS SHOULD WE PAY - 07:11.764 --> 07:14.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SHOULD WE LITERALLY TAXPAYER MONEY BE PAID TO TELL KIDS THAT 07:14.400 --> 07:19.338 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO TELL KIDS THAT DINOSAURS AND HUMANS SHARED THE EARTH -- 07:19.439 --> 07:21.007 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% [ALL TALKING] 07:21.107 --> 07:22.975 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> THE MONEY SHOULD FOLLOW THE STUDENTS. 07:23.075 --> 07:24.177 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> NO MATTER WHAT NO MATTER WHAT THE PARENT WANTS 07:24.277 --> 07:25.812 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE MATTER IF THEY WANT TO TELL KIDS THAT ARE THINGS ARE 07:25.912 --> 07:29.816 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ABSOLUTELY WRONG TO TAXPAYERS SUBSIDIZE A TERRIBLY FLAWED 07:29.916 --> 07:31.984 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> YOU'RE TALKING PRIMARILY ABOUT PRIVATE SCHOOLS. 07:32.084 --> 07:33.986 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIVAATE SCHOOLS. 07:34.086 --> 07:36.422 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> WELL, WE WE'RE TALKING MORE ABOUT CHARTERS 07:36.522 --> 07:38.057 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> SHOULD THE TAXPAYERS SUBSIDIZED A PUBLIC 07:38.157 --> 07:39.392 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CLASSROOM THAT ISN'T WORKING? 07:39.492 --> 07:40.726 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION FIRST. 07:40.827 --> 07:42.061 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> WELL YOU ANSWER MINE TOO. 07:42.161 --> 07:43.362 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> WHAT THE TAXPAYERS TO DO IS FIX THE 07:43.463 --> 07:45.598 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SCHOOL WE HAVE WE HAVE THE ELECTIONS FOR SCHOOL BOARDS. 07:45.698 --> 07:47.967 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WE HAVE PUBLIC INPUT, WE HAVE MAGNET PROGRAM THEY HAVE A LOT 07:48.067 --> 07:50.803 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% CHOICE IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS. >> WE CAN ALWAYS MAYBE 07:50.903 --> 07:53.940 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% KIND OF SEVERAL YEARS FROM NOW INFLUENCE A SCHOOL BOARD 07:54.040 --> 07:57.944 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% ELECTION IS A VERY -- [ALL JUMPING IN, DEBATING] 07:58.044 --> 08:00.246 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN OUR 08:00.346 --> 08:02.548 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FAMILY FRANKLY, AND THEN OPTED TO GO TO A PRIVATE SCHOOL 08:02.648 --> 08:05.485 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AT THE BY THE WAY ABOUT DISCLOSURE OF GOT TO TELL YOU I 08:05.585 --> 08:08.054 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HAVE WRITTEN A COLUMN ABOUT THAT THIS WEEK'S COLUMN OF MY 08:08.154 --> 08:12.492 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SPIN ON NCSPIN.COM IS ABOUT THIS. ROB, THE BIG THING 08:12.592 --> 08:15.795 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THOUGH IS THAT WHEN CHARTER SCHOOLS WERE FIRST AND VISION 08:15.895 --> 08:18.931 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SO THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE LABORATORIES OF INNOVATION THEY 08:19.031 --> 08:23.569 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WERE GIVEN CONSENT BILLY MORE LEEWAY THAN WERE TRADITIONAL 08:23.669 --> 08:27.440 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SCHOOLS OR AS JOHN CALLS AND DISSED SCHOOLS WHICH INCLUDED 08:27.540 --> 08:31.344 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THINGS LIKE THE ACADEMIC CALENDAR TEACHER WORK DAYS, 08:31.444 --> 08:35.181 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CURRICULUM TEACHER CHOIR MONTHS, CLASS SIZE THINGS OF 08:35.281 --> 08:38.918 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS NATURE, MY QUESTION IN THE POINT I GET TO IN MY COLUMN IS 08:39.018 --> 08:42.755 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% OK IF THAT IT AND THE RESULTS BY THE WAY INDICATE THAT 08:42.855 --> 08:47.460 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% CHARTERS ARE DOING ABOUT AS WELL ON ALL PAR WITH OUR 08:47.560 --> 08:51.230 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS. SHOULDN'T WE GIVE THIS SAME FLEXIBILITY 08:51.330 --> 08:54.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO OUR DISTRICT SCHOOLS, OUR TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS IF IT WORKS 08:54.700 --> 08:55.902 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% LET'S DO IT. 08:56.002 --> 08:59.472 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> IF SOME OF THOSE IDEAS ARE WORTH, EMULATING SURE THAT WHEN 08:59.572 --> 09:02.074 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WE ALLOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO MAKE THOSE USES OR THAT 09:02.174 --> 09:04.043 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY CAN GET MORE FREEDOM 09:04.143 --> 09:06.913 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TO BUT THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING THESE GREAT 09:07.013 --> 09:09.048 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% IDEAS THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET FROM THE CHARTERS ARE NOT 09:09.148 --> 09:11.183 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PERCOLATING BACK TO THE SCHOOLS BECAUSE THE GREAT IDEAS ARE 09:11.284 --> 09:14.620 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THINGS LIKE SMALLER CLASS SIZES HAVING TEXT BOOKS FOR KIDS, 09:14.720 --> 09:17.156 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BASIC STUFF THAT ALL SCHOOLS ARE TO PROVIDE AND IF WE DID 09:17.256 --> 09:19.325 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PROVIDE THEM IN THE TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS, PEOPLE WOULDN'T 09:19.425 --> 09:21.861 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BE OPTING OUT YOU ASKED WHY THEY GO TO A CHARTER THEY GO 09:21.961 --> 09:24.297 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% A VOUCHER SCHOOL, I WANT A SMALLER CLASS SIZE AND WANT 09:24.397 --> 09:25.765 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MORE INDIVIDUALIZED ATTENTION. 09:25.865 --> 09:27.099 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THAT'S WHAT THEY'LL SAY -- 09:27.199 --> 09:28.901 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> AND NOT TO ARGUE, BUT RESULTS AND 09:29.001 --> 09:32.638 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PERFORMANCE SEEM TO TRACK SO FAR AS TRADITIONAL SCHOOLS ARE 09:32.738 --> 09:35.675 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CONCERNED I WILL SWITCH OVER TO ANOTHER TOPIC IT BACK AND 09:35.775 --> 09:38.611 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THERE'S A BIG CONTROVERSY HAS BEEN GOING ON THE LAST COUPLE 09:38.711 --> 09:41.948 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF WEEKS SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION MARK JOHNSON 09:42.048 --> 09:45.952 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AWARDED THE CONTRACT FROM NORTH CAROLINA'S K 3 DIAGNOSTIC 09:46.052 --> 09:49.388 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% READING ASSESSMENT NOW HE CLAIMED IT WAS BECAUSE OF A 09:49.488 --> 09:52.959 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS MADE BY AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE NOW WE 09:53.059 --> 09:56.329 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FUNDING THAT HE DIDN'T FOLLOW THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE'S CHOICE 09:56.429 --> 09:59.098 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% IS THIS HUBBUB JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE WE'RE UPSET WITH THE 09:59.198 --> 10:01.934 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% FARMING CHOSE OR THAT HE MISREPRESENTED HIS ACTIONS. 10:02.034 --> 10:04.403 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I THINK BOTH I MEAN IT'S PRETTY AMAZING THAT HE WOULD 10:04.503 --> 10:06.572 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MAKE A REPRESENTATION OF SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN 10:06.672 --> 10:09.475 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND THEN TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT. I THINK 10:09.575 --> 10:11.677 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT'S WHY YOU SAW A MOVE IN THE LEGISLATURE FROM DEMOCRATIC 10:11.777 --> 10:14.347 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SENATORS ARE SAYING WHAT'S THAT SUSPEND THIS FOR YEARS SO MAKE 10:14.447 --> 10:17.583 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A DECISION FOR YEAR THE COMPANY THAT HE CHOSE NOT HAVE NEARLY 10:17.683 --> 10:19.919 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AS GOOD A RECORD DEALING WITH KIDS WITH LEARNING DISABILITIES 10:20.019 --> 10:23.389 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DYSLEXIA AND OTHER THINGS. I THINK THE SUPER 10 WAS CAUGHT 10:23.489 --> 10:26.425 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HERE MAKING A POLITICAL DECISION AND NOW IT'S TRYING TO 10:26.525 --> 10:28.461 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% GET BACK OUT OF IT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD LET HIM. 10:28.561 --> 10:30.796 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% >> SHOULD WE VOID THIS CONTRACT? 10:30.896 --> 10:33.032 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WELL, I'D LIKE TO LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT IT 10:33.132 --> 10:35.401 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE SUPERINTENDENT'S POSITION AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS 10:35.501 --> 10:37.870 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT THAT THAT ADVISORY REVIEW, 10:37.970 --> 10:40.373 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WAS IT SELF TAINTED BY SOME CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. 10:40.473 --> 10:42.041 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> YES, BUT AT FIRST, HE SAID HE WAS 10:42.141 --> 10:43.909 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOLLOWING THE ADVICE OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE 10:44.010 --> 10:46.779 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> I THINK WE NEED TO LEARN MORE OF THE DETAILS. 10:46.879 --> 10:49.815 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> THE COMPANY IS THREATENING THE TEACHERS WHO EXPOSE 10:49.915 --> 10:52.318 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS WITH CEASE AND DESIST ORDERS WHEN WE MIGHT WANT TO BE 10:52.418 --> 10:54.654 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% CAREFUL WE MIGHT GET ONE OF THOSE ON NC SPIN IF -- 10:54.754 --> 10:57.623 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% >> CEASE AND DESIST? [ALL TALKING] 10:57.723 --> 11:00.092 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WOULD THAT MEAN WE'D HAVE TO DUCT TAPE OUR MOUTHS? 11:00.192 --> 11:02.695 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> WE MIGHT, THAT COULD HAPPEN. 11:02.795 --> 11:04.296 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% DONNA THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF 11:04.397 --> 11:07.967 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TURNOVER IN DPI SINCE MARK JOHNSON HAS BECOME OR OUR STATE 11:08.067 --> 11:11.137 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SUPERINTENDENT, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING IS THIS 11:11.237 --> 11:14.840 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BECAUSE NEW LEADERSHIP IN AND OF ITSELF IS GOING TO PUT 11:14.940 --> 11:18.711 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PEOPLE AND THAT THEY FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH OR IS IT A 11:18.811 --> 11:21.347 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% COMMENTARY. OMAR, JOHNSON'S LEADERSHIP. 11:21.447 --> 11:25.518 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I THINK THAT TURNOVER IS NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING, 11:25.618 --> 11:30.122 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUT YOU HAD LEADERSHIP DPI THAT WAS PRETTY CONSISTENT FOR YEAR 11:30.222 --> 11:33.259 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR PEOPLE GOT COMFORTABLE, IF PEOPLE 11:33.359 --> 11:36.362 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WANTED TO STAY SOME PEOPLE STAY BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED IN THE 11:36.462 --> 11:39.331 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOCUS THEY BELIEVED IN THAT THE LEADERSHIP. OTHER PEOPLE LOOKED 11:39.432 --> 11:41.934 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AT IT LIKE THIS IS MY JOB, I HAVE A CAREER HERE, BUT IF 11:42.034 --> 11:44.570 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SOMEONE COMES IN HAPPENS IN ANY ORGANIZATION, WHETHER IT'S 11:44.670 --> 11:47.573 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% STATE GOVERNMENT OR PRIVATE ENTERPRISE OR NONPROFIT, 11:47.673 --> 11:50.009 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BECAUSE SOMEONE WHO THINKS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY. SOME 11:50.109 --> 11:51.077 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% PEOPLE REACT WELL. 11:51.177 --> 11:52.745 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND RISE TO THE OCCASION, OTHERS DON'T. 11:52.845 --> 11:53.979 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> SO LET ME ASK YOU ROB, THE 11:54.080 --> 11:58.350 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TURNOVER IS THIS IS JUST BECAUSE, AS DONNA SAYS, A NEW 11:58.451 --> 12:01.754 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LEADERSHIP CAN CHOOSE NEW PEOPLE OR IS IT A COMMENTARY ON 12:01.854 --> 12:03.122 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% MARK JOHNSON'S LEADERSHIP. 12:03.222 --> 12:05.558 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> IT IS MOSTLY THE LATTER WE HAD A STORY BY OUR REPORTER 12:05.658 --> 12:07.560 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% GREG CHILDRESS DIDN'T SEE POLICY WATCH WROTE A STORY 12:07.660 --> 12:09.195 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ABOUT THIS EARLIER THIS WEEK, THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY 12:09.295 --> 12:11.897 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IMPRESSIVE PRETTY STRIKING AT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TO 12:11.997 --> 12:15.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAVE TRANSITIONED OUT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE JUST GOT SICK OF IT. 12:15.101 --> 12:17.269 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THEY WERE DISGUSTED WITH THE SITUATION THEY LEFT BECAUSE 12:17.369 --> 12:20.172 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY WERE DEDICATED EDUCATORS AND I THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE. 12:20.272 --> 12:22.341 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE JOHNSON HAS BROUGHT IN HAVE NOW LEFT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT 12:22.441 --> 12:24.643 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REALLY EDUCATORS THEIR INTEREST IN A POLITICAL CAREER WHICH I 12:24.744 --> 12:27.146 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THINK MIGHT ACTUALLY BE THE CASE WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT. 12:28.280 --> 12:30.483 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> CERTAINLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD WATCH AS WE GO 12:30.583 --> 12:33.285 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FORWARD AND LET'S MOVE OVER THE QUESTION OF TESTING WE'VE 12:33.385 --> 12:35.888 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TALKED ABOUT THIS TIME MANY YEARS WE TALK ABOUT TESTING ON 12:35.988 --> 12:38.557 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% NC SPIN, JOHN? >> IS THAT A TEST? 12:38.657 --> 12:42.862 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% [ALL TALKING] >> I SAY THREE! 12:42.962 --> 12:45.865 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED FOR YEARS ABOUT TOO MANY TEST BEING 12:45.965 --> 12:48.667 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GIVEN TO OUR STUDENTS AND THE LEGISLATURE WANTED TO REDUCE 12:48.768 --> 12:52.171 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THE NUMBER OF TEST BOTH THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE PASSED 12:52.271 --> 12:57.476 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BILLS WHICH WOULD DO THAT FOR THE ELEMENT TREE MIDDLE AND 12:57.576 --> 13:00.513 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HIGH SCHOOLS, BUT THE NORTH CAROLINA CHAMBER SAID NOT SO 13:00.613 --> 13:04.216 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% FAST HERE. WE NEED MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND 13:04.316 --> 13:05.551 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% WHAT TO REDUCE. 13:05.651 --> 13:08.420 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ABOUT THIS TESTING? 13:08.521 --> 13:11.190 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> WELL, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND HAVE ADVOCATED FOR A LONG 13:11.290 --> 13:14.093 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TIME THE NEED TO CHANGE OR OR ADAPTERS IN SOME CASES 13:14.193 --> 13:16.462 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% STREAMLINE OUR TESTING PROGRAM I THINK THE CHAMBER WAS 13:16.562 --> 13:20.032 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CONCERNED I SUSPECT NOT AS MUCH ABOUT THE HIGH SCHOOL CHANGE 13:20.132 --> 13:23.035 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT MAY BE THE HIGH SCHOOL CHANGES TO GET RID OF SOME TASK 13:23.135 --> 13:25.838 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BECAUSE WE'RE NOW AT MINISTERING THE A C T TO ALL OF 13:25.938 --> 13:28.574 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHICH IS A CONSISTENT NATIONAL START 13:28.674 --> 13:32.511 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% I LIKE HAVING CONSISTENT INDEPENDENT NATIONAL TO BE ANY 13:32.611 --> 13:35.581 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BETTER IMPAIRED OTHER STAR AT YOU SO, BUT I THINK THE CONCERN 13:35.681 --> 13:39.485 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IS PROBABLY GREATER IN THE A 3 TO 8 GRADE BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE 13:39.585 --> 13:42.121 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% DOING IS TAKEN INTO GREAT COURSES AND THEY'RE REPLACING 13:42.221 --> 13:45.057 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THEM WITH WHAT IS NOW CALLED AND WILL BE CHANGED ITS NAME 13:45.157 --> 13:48.961 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% EVENTUALLY THE CALL CHECKINS 3 TESTS A YEAR AND YOU BASICALLY 13:49.061 --> 13:52.398 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% USE THEM TOGETHER NOW THAT SOUNDS ODD BECAUSE IF YOU TALK 13:52.498 --> 13:55.367 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ABOUT TOO MANY TESTING AND MORE TEST THAT SOUNDS CONFUSING THE 13:55.467 --> 13:58.304 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ARGUMENT IS THAT A NUMBER OF DISTRICTS ALREADY USING 3 TESTS 13:58.404 --> 14:01.607 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% A YEAR PLUS THE END OF GREAT YEAH, AND SO YOU WOULD TRY TO 14:01.707 --> 14:04.176 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% USE THE FACT THAT I AM CONCERNED I I AGREE WITH THE 14:04.276 --> 14:08.347 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CHAMBER, I'M CONCERNED IF THAT INSTRUMENT IS REALLY VALID AND 14:08.447 --> 14:12.551 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REALLY HELPFUL BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS WORK ON AT LEAST HAS 14:12.651 --> 14:16.121 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND I'M QUESTIONING THE TASK AT LEAST WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF 14:16.222 --> 14:19.024 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% GIVING SOMETHING LIKE THE SAME TEST OVER A LONG PERIOD TIME 14:19.124 --> 14:21.493 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AND THAT HAS ALLOWED RESEARCHERS NOT JUST NORTH 14:21.594 --> 14:24.763 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CAROLINA, BUT ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO EVALUATE AND STUDY 14:24.864 --> 14:26.265 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% EDUCATION REFORMS IN NORTH CAROLINA. 14:26.365 --> 14:27.766 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> FOR YEARS AND YEARS - I WILL HAVE TO SAY THIS - 14:27.867 --> 14:29.735 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FOR YEARS AND YEARS THE NORTH CAROLINA CHAMBER HED 14:29.835 --> 14:34.073 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BEEN AN INTEGRAL PARTNER IN PLAYER IN PUBLIC EDUCATION IN 14:34.173 --> 14:36.842 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% NORTH CAROLINA AND FOR YEARS THAT KIND OF DISAPPEARED, 14:36.942 --> 14:39.511 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% GARY SALAMIDO WHO'S THE INTERIM OR ACTING 14:39.612 --> 14:40.846 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >> I THINK THEY'RE TRYING 14:40.946 --> 14:42.348 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER CHANGES THEY 14:42.448 --> 14:46.252 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MIGHT MAKE BECAUSE THERE IS SOME PRESSURE ABOUT TEST DON'T 14:46.352 --> 14:48.921 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TAKE AWAY INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO EVALUATE NOT JUST 14:49.021 --> 14:51.590 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON BUT ALSO 14:51.690 --> 14:55.060 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% EVALUATE SCHOOLS OF IWATE WAYS OF TEACHING OF IWATE POLICY 14:55.160 --> 14:59.398 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CHANGES OF IT AT THE STATE OR LOCAL LEVEL THIS IS IMPORTANT 14:59.498 --> 15:01.033 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GOVERNMENTS MATERIAL WE NEED. 15:01.133 --> 15:04.103 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> YOU'VE BEEN VERY POLITE WAITING FOR YOUR TURN. GO AHEAD. 15:04.203 --> 15:05.437 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HIGH STAKES TEST 15:05.537 --> 15:07.106 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT THE CHILD MIGHT ACTUALLY BE HELD 15:07.206 --> 15:10.209 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BACK OR PUNISHED AS A RESULT AND FEEL THAT INTENSE PRESSURE 15:10.309 --> 15:14.013 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FROM A TEST THAT IS DIAGNOSTIC SYSTEMWIDE KIND OF DIAGNOSES 15:14.113 --> 15:16.448 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WERE TOO AND TO DO WITH IT ON THIS CRAZY ROLLER COASTER WHEN 15:16.548 --> 15:18.717 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IT COMES TO TESTING FIRST WE HAD TO DO LOTS OF TESTING 15:18.817 --> 15:20.953 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BECAUSE WE WANT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY IN SCHOOLS NOW 15:21.053 --> 15:22.888 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE WHO PUSHED INITIALLY ARE PUSHING 15:22.988 --> 15:25.224 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BACK THE OTHER DIRECTION GOT TO FIND SOME COMMON GROUND AT ALL 15:25.324 --> 15:27.293 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% COME BACK TO THAT THEME. I MENTIONED EARLIER AS IF WE 15:27.393 --> 15:29.762 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INVESTED ENOUGH FOR SCHOOLS AND GAVE THE TEACHERS THE TOOLS 15:29.862 --> 15:32.364 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THEY NEED TO EDUCATE OUR KIDS THE TESTING ISSUE WOULDN'T BE 15:32.464 --> 15:33.565 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% SUCH A CONTROVERSY. 15:33.666 --> 15:35.868 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON GROWTH. THAT'S WHY 15:35.968 --> 15:38.337 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% I LIKE THE IDEA OF MULTIPLE TESTS DURING THE YEAR BECAUSE 15:38.437 --> 15:42.241 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU'RE MEASURING A CHILD'S GROWTH. IS THAT CHILD LEARNING - 15:42.341 --> 15:44.143 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% >> FROM START OF YEAR >> YEAH, EXACTLY. 15:44.243 --> 15:45.778 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ARE THEY LEARNING OR ARE THEY NOT 15:45.878 --> 15:48.914 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND THEN WHAT ARE THEY LEARNING AND YOU CAN GO FORWARD THE 15:49.014 --> 15:52.985 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ENTIRE WORLD IS GOING TOWARDS ON DEMAND MORE PERSONALIZED 15:53.085 --> 15:54.453 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% EVERYTHING. 15:54.553 --> 15:55.988 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO GO. WITH EDUCATION. 15:56.088 --> 15:58.724 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I WANT TO SWITCH OVER TO A TOPIC THAT YOU GOT STARTED 15:58.824 --> 16:01.527 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON AND I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO FOLLOW UP ON IT, 16:01.627 --> 16:05.230 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BUT I WANT TO DO IT. AND THAT IS THE THE GRADING OF SCHOOL. 16:05.331 --> 16:07.533 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THE SUBJECT OF THAT AND AGAIN THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE 16:07.633 --> 16:10.369 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SUBJECTS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR YEARS ON IN SEAS AND 16:10.469 --> 16:14.573 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BASICALLY THE WAY IT WORKS RIGHT NOW IS THAT SCHOOLS ARE 16:14.673 --> 16:18.677 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GRADED 80% ACCORDING TO THE TEST SCORES OF THEIR STUDENTS 16:18.777 --> 16:22.581 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AND 20% ACCORDING TO HOW THEY GROW AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 16:22.681 --> 16:25.718 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THEY PUT THEM ON A 15 POINT SCALE WHICH I'M NOT SURE I 16:25.818 --> 16:29.221 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% TOTALLY UNDERSTAND BUT HAVE DECIDED TO DO THAT. BUT NOW 16:29.321 --> 16:31.690 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THERE'S SOME THINKING THAT MAYBE THIS WHOLE FORMULA NEEDS 16:31.790 --> 16:35.127 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TO BE CHANGED IN THE LEGISLATURE. AND LET ME GIVES 16:35.227 --> 16:37.629 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THEM SOME KUDOS HERE RATHER THAN MAKING THE DECISION 16:37.730 --> 16:41.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEMSELVES THEY TOSSED IT BACK TO MARK JOHNSON IN IN THE STATE 16:41.200 --> 16:44.336 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BOARD OF EDUCATION AND SAID YOU GUYS TALK ABOUT IT AND COME TO 16:44.436 --> 16:45.671 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% US WITH SOME RECOMMENDATION. 16:45.771 --> 16:47.239 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> WELL THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS THAT THE SENATE LEADERSHIP 16:47.339 --> 16:49.041 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% HAS REFUSED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT THE 16:49.141 --> 16:52.044 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LAST SEVERAL SESSIONS, THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE LEADERSHIP ONE 16:52.144 --> 16:55.447 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TIME IN THE BUDGET ONE COMMON THE BILL AS CHANGE THE GRATING 16:55.547 --> 16:58.951 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FORMULA TO BE 50% TO SCORE 50% GROWTH WHICH MAKES A LOT MORE 16:59.051 --> 17:01.954 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SENSE. SOME PEOPLE JOHN AMONG THEM HAVE ADVOCATED TO 2 17:02.054 --> 17:04.890 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SEPARATE MEASUREMENTS. SO THERE ARE REPUBLICANS EVEN CRAIG 17:04.990 --> 17:07.226 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CORNER DISAGREE WITH QUITE A BIT ON A LOT OF EDUCATION 17:07.326 --> 17:09.828 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% ISSUES HAS BEEN A PROPONENT CHANGING THE FORMULA. THE 17:09.928 --> 17:12.364 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SENATE LEADERSHIP HAS REFUSED A YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR 17:12.464 --> 17:14.533 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WE'VE HAD ALL THE SCHOOLS CLAIMING THAT THEY'RE FAILING 17:14.633 --> 17:16.235 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WHEN THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING PRETTY WILL TO HELP 17:16.335 --> 17:18.804 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED KIDS. THE STUDY IS BETTER THAN 17:18.904 --> 17:20.706 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% NOTHING BUT I THINK THIS IS ROCKET SCIENCE WE COULD HAVE 17:20.806 --> 17:22.007 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% ALREADY CHANGED IT. 17:22.107 --> 17:24.043 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EDUCATION ISSUES 17:24.143 --> 17:27.346 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND I MAKE A PLEDGE THAT WERE GOING TO DO PARTICULARLY 17:27.446 --> 17:29.281 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SCHOOL IS GETTING READY TO START AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO BE 17:29.381 --> 17:30.616 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% DOING MORE OF THAT. 17:30.716 --> 17:32.384 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> THERE WILL BE A TEST AT THE END OF THE QUARTER. 17:32.484 --> 17:36.021 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> THANK YOU. >> IT'S GOING TO BE 50-50. 17:36.121 --> 17:37.990 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> AFRAID I WAS GOING TO GET AN F THERE. 17:38.090 --> 17:39.391 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% LET'S SWITCH TOPICS. PUBLIC UTILITY 17:39.491 --> 17:42.728 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% COMPANIES ARE CALLED REGULATED MONOPOLIES WITH 17:42.828 --> 17:46.765 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REGULATORS ALLOWING RATES. THEY PROVIDE REASONABLE RETURNS 17:46.865 --> 17:49.635 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% TO THEIR INVESTORS WHILE ENSURING GOOD SERVICE TO 17:49.735 --> 17:52.504 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CUSTOMERS BUT WE'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING IN RECENT MEMORY IS 17:52.604 --> 17:55.808 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CONTENTIOUS. AS THE ARGUMENTS OVER WHAT'S NOW CALLED SENATE 17:55.908 --> 18:00.779 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BILL 5.59. IF IT'S PASSED AND GOVERNOR COOPER SIGNS IT WILL 18:00.879 --> 18:03.015 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MAKE A MAJOR SHIFT IN THE WAY RIGHT WE'RE GOING TO BE 18:03.115 --> 18:06.452 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ESTABLISHED OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS GIVING DUKE ENERGY MORE 18:06.552 --> 18:10.322 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% LEEWAY IN ESTABLISHING THEIR RIGHTS. A MAJOR CAMPAIGN HAS 18:10.422 --> 18:14.359 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% BEEN WAGED IN OPPOSITION TO THIS URGING THE GOVERNOR TO 18:14.460 --> 18:18.197 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% VETO THE BILL DONNA THIS CAMPAIGN IN OPPOSITION TO THE 18:18.297 --> 18:20.866 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SENATE BILL 5.59 IS THAT THE REASON IT 18:20.966 --> 18:23.535 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% HASN'T PASSED THE HOUSE? 18:23.635 --> 18:25.037 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THE REASON IT HASN'T PASSED THE HOUSE IS BECAUSE THERE'S NO 18:25.137 --> 18:28.307 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CONSENSUS AMONG HOUSE LEADERSHIP ABOUT WHAT TO DO HERE. 18:28.407 --> 18:32.144 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THIS IS A REALLY COMPLEX BILL COMPLEX THE SITUATION AND 18:32.244 --> 18:34.646 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SO REPRESENTATIVE DAVID LEWIS CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE RULES 18:34.746 --> 18:37.816 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% COMMITTEE. THE SIGNALED HIS SUPPORT FOR THIS, BUT THEY'RE 18:37.916 --> 18:40.586 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LAW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING BEHIND THE SCENES, WHAT IS THIS 18:40.686 --> 18:43.422 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% REALLY ALL ABOUT ALL OF THESE PROVISIONS, LET'S NOT MOVE TOO 18:43.522 --> 18:47.826 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% QUICKLY. I SEE IT IS REALLY AN ISSUE OF TRYING TO PROTECT RATE 18:47.926 --> 18:50.762 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PAYERS AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE THIS A REVIEW EVERY TIME 18:50.863 --> 18:53.432 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THERE'S A REQUEST, I'M WEARY OF THIS IDEA -- 18:53.532 --> 18:54.766 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% >> SO YOU'RE NOT -- 18:54.867 --> 18:56.702 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS YOU'RE NOT CRAZY ABOUT THE 18:56.802 --> 18:58.270 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% SENATE BILL 5.59. 18:58.370 --> 19:00.172 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I'M NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT. I I WANT TO PROTECT -- 19:00.272 --> 19:04.610 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SEEMS LIKE IT IT NEGATES THE POWERS OF THE STATE UTILITY, 19:04.710 --> 19:06.712 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >> BUT HERE'S THE THING I THINK DUKE HAS LEGITIMATE 19:06.812 --> 19:09.882 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH AGING 19:09.982 --> 19:13.418 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO THAT'S WHY I SAY WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT 19:13.519 --> 19:15.587 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THOSE QUESTIONS WE DO HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. 19:15.687 --> 19:17.089 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> ROB, THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THAT IT'S A 19:17.189 --> 19:18.724 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% 2 PART BILL BASICALLY THE FIRST IS GOING TO 19:18.824 --> 19:22.895 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ALLOW DUKE OR DOMINION TO BE ABLE TO SELL BONDS IS IN THE 19:22.995 --> 19:24.897 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% EVENT OF ANOTHER HURRICANE OR STORM DAMAGE OR 19:24.997 --> 19:27.266 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WHATEVER LIKE THAT >> THAT'S NOT CONTROVERSIAL. 19:27.366 --> 19:28.534 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> THAT'S NOT CONTROVERSIAL AT ALL. 19:28.634 --> 19:34.506 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THE SECOND PART ALLOWS THEM TO ASK FOR RIGHT SUCCESSIVE 19:34.606 --> 19:38.076 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RATE INCREASES OVER A 5 YEAR PERIOD OF TIME INSTEAD OF GOING 19:38.177 --> 19:40.979 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BACK AS DONNA WAS SAYING TO THE UTILITIES COMMISSION IS TIME TO 19:41.079 --> 19:45.017 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MAKE THE CASE IS IT WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THIS? 19:45.117 --> 19:47.753 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF CONSTITUENTS. 19:47.853 --> 19:50.589 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I THINK - THE CONSTITUENT IS DUKE THAT'S WHO'S BEHIND IT - 19:50.689 --> 19:51.924 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY A PROBLEM 19:52.024 --> 19:53.692 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WITH GIVING MULTIPLE YOU'RE A REAL 19:53.792 --> 19:55.861 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAVE MULTIPLE YEAR RATE CASES, THE ISSUE OF IT. 19:55.961 --> 19:58.330 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> HAS TO DO WITH THE CRITERIA THAT ARE USED FOR ASSESSING 19:58.430 --> 20:01.366 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WHETHER THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL OR NOT WE HAVE AN EXISTENTIAL 20:01.466 --> 20:05.270 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CLIMATE CRISIS IN OUR SOCIETY RIGHT NOW DUKE ENERGY IS LIKE 20:05.370 --> 20:08.840 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IT OR NOT AT THE CENTER OF THAT THEY ARE THE HUGE CARBON FUEL 20:08.941 --> 20:13.278 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% USER THEY ARE SENDING PLUMES OF SEE CO 2 INTO OUR ATMOSPHERE 20:13.378 --> 20:16.882 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IT A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THAT THAT WE MOVE 20:16.982 --> 20:18.817 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SWIFTLY TO A RENEWABLE ENERGY. 20:18.917 --> 20:21.186 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> YOU'RE ARGUING FOR RATE INCREASES 20:21.286 --> 20:25.357 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE ACTUALLY DAY IF THEY 20:25.457 --> 20:28.026 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% FOR INSTANCE MOVED TO A SMART GRID SYSTEM WHICH COULD 20:28.126 --> 20:30.495 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ACTUALLY WHICH ACTUALLY WOULD REDUCE THE NEED TO PRODUCE 20:30.596 --> 20:34.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ELECTRICITY AND SEND OUT JUST AS MUCH AS NEEDED OUT ON TO THE 20:34.166 --> 20:37.169 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GRID, WE CAN ACTUALLY DO THAT -- [ALL TALKING] 20:37.269 --> 20:41.607 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% IT'S GOING TO COST $13 BILLION. 20:41.707 --> 20:44.509 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% I'M NOT TAKING THEIR SIDE NECESSARILY LOW AS 20:44.610 --> 20:48.013 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% 35 STATES ALREADY HAVE SOME VERSION THIS DON'T THAT DON'T 20:48.113 --> 20:51.283 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE ARE WAYS TO DO THIS SO THAT THE 20:51.383 --> 20:54.253 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ALL THE MONEY DOESN'T GO TO THE SHAREHOLDER THERE LABELED S P 20:54.353 --> 20:57.189 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% 500 DOES NOT HAVE HAPPENING IS THAT THE SENATE IS NOT 20:57.289 --> 21:01.226 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CONFIRMING GOVERNOR COOPER'S NOMINEES THE UTILITIES 21:01.326 --> 21:04.029 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COMMISSION WE HAVE ONLY FOR THE 7 MEMBERS ON THERE NOW OR EVEN 21:04.129 --> 21:06.665 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SERVING THE COMMISSION IS GREATLY DEPLETED THAT WOULD BE 21:06.765 --> 21:08.000 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ANOTHER THING WE SHOULD DO TO GET THIS MOVING. 21:08.100 --> 21:10.502 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> FAR AS IT GOES THIS NC WARN 21:10.602 --> 21:14.873 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CHRIS IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS I MEAN HUGE NEWSPAPER 21:14.973 --> 21:17.376 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ADS TELEVISION ADS SO FEELS LIKE THEY'RE AND THEY'RE CITING 21:17.476 --> 21:22.447 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN OVER $1.6 MILLION IN CAMPAIGN 21:22.547 --> 21:25.317 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CONTRIBUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO SENATOR BYRD OR 21:25.417 --> 21:29.388 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SENATOR MORE THAN BLUE DAVID LEWIS. THEY SAY THE RIGHT 21:29.488 --> 21:32.824 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU'RE GOING TO BE INCREASED BY 50% IF THIS BILL PASSED AND 21:32.924 --> 21:35.560 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MORE COST ARE GOING TO BE PAID BY SHAREHOLDERS AND THEN BY 21:35.661 --> 21:39.131 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% BY RATE PAYERS THAN SHAREHOLDERS. 21:39.231 --> 21:41.199 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> OVERRIDING THINGS ARE GETTING IN THE WEEDS, THIS FIRST OF ALL 21:41.300 --> 21:42.367 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% DOES ANYBODY THINK 21:42.467 --> 21:46.305 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT DUKE POWER, DUKE ENERGY, DOMINION DON'T HAVE A 21:46.405 --> 21:50.175 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ENOUGH INFLUENCE OVER RATES AND DON'T GET THEIR WAY 95% OF THE 21:50.275 --> 21:52.344 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TIME ALREADY IN NORTH CAROLINA, SO FIRST OF ALL WHAT 21:52.444 --> 21:53.679 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% ARE THEY SCREAMING ABOUT? 21:53.779 --> 21:54.980 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AND THE SECOND THING IS WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS 21:55.080 --> 21:57.883 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IN THIS DRAMATIC A FASHION WITHOUT A LINK THAT WE TALKED 21:57.983 --> 22:00.752 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ABOUT STUDYING THINGS EARLIER WHY WOULD YOU NOT STUDY THIS 22:00.852 --> 22:03.355 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% HAVE PEOPLE HAVE CONSUMER ADVOCATE SAID THE UTILITY 22:03.455 --> 22:05.957 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% EXPERTS HAVE EVERYBODY DO THIS IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY THAN RUN 22:06.058 --> 22:08.627 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS IS THE LEGISLATURE THIS WAY I THINK WHAT THE NC WARN IS 22:08.727 --> 22:10.929 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ON TO SOMETHING ALWAYS NECESSARILY AGREE THEM I THINK 22:11.029 --> 22:13.598 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% IN THIS CASE WE NEED TO NOT DO THIS THIS YEAR 22:13.699 --> 22:14.599 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% AT THE VERY LEAST. 22:14.700 --> 22:15.600 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> THIS IS REALLY RARE. 22:15.701 --> 22:17.235 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% I'M FINDING THAT THERE'S CONSENSUS ON THIS 22:17.336 --> 22:18.570 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% PANEL BUT ON THIS ISSUE. 22:18.670 --> 22:20.105 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >> YEAH, I'M WITH YOU ON THE STUDY, 22:20.205 --> 22:24.109 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BUT AMONG THE EVERYBODY HAS TO BE AN ECONOMIST, AN ECONOMIST 22:24.209 --> 22:28.613 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% [ALL TALKING] 22:28.714 --> 22:30.315 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> JOHN, IF THIS PASSES, WILL COOPER VETO IT? 22:31.883 --> 22:35.387 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I THINK THE RELATIONSHIP WAS BETWEEN THE GOVERNOR AND DUKE 22:35.487 --> 22:39.124 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IS NOT EXACTLY HUNKY DORY SO WOULD BE BETTING ON IT IF I WAS 22:39.224 --> 22:41.860 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ON THE DUKE SIDE OR MAYBE HE WOULD DEMAND SOMETHING TO GET 22:41.960 --> 22:44.696 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HIS SIGNATURE THERE'S BEEN A HISTORY OF THE GOVERNOR HOLD 22:44.796 --> 22:46.665 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THINGS UP UNTIL DO GIVEN WHAT HE WANTS. 22:46.765 --> 22:49.167 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> ALL RIGHT, LET'S TURN AROUND TO THE PART OF THE PROGRAM 22:49.267 --> 22:51.169 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHERE WE ASK THE PANEL TO TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW 22:51.269 --> 22:52.371 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% CHRIS? 22:52.471 --> 22:54.172 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS REPUBLICANS AND MANY 22:54.272 --> 22:56.742 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PEOPLE ON THIS PANEL COMPLAINED ABOUT PORK BARREL SPENDING AND 22:56.842 --> 22:59.411 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% LOCAL PROJECTS GETTING MONEY WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE IN POWER W 22:59.511 --> 23:03.448 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% REAL RELEASED A DATABASE THIS WEEK ALMOST $400 MILLION WORTH 23:03.548 --> 23:06.318 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% OF SINGLE DIRECTED LOCAL PROJECTS ARE REALLY PORK 23:06.418 --> 23:08.787 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% BARREL. IRONICALLY THAT'S ROUGHLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF 23:08.887 --> 23:11.089 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MONEY WOULD COST NORTH CAROLINA FOR ITS SHARE OF MEDICAID 23:11.189 --> 23:13.692 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% EXPANSION. WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT IS CHOCK FULL OF PORK 23:13.792 --> 23:16.128 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% BARREL. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY CONSERVATIVES -- 23:16.228 --> 23:18.730 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% OR REPUBLICANS SAY A WORD ABOUT IT. 23:18.830 --> 23:20.065 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT WAS ONE OF THE DEFINING ISSUES 23:20.165 --> 23:21.266 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% WHEN THEY WERE NOT IN POWER. 23:21.366 --> 23:23.602 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I'LL HAVE TO GO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE I SOMEHOW KNOW 23:23.702 --> 23:24.936 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% THAT THAT ESCAPE ME. 23:25.036 --> 23:26.938 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ROB SCHOFIELD TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 23:27.038 --> 23:28.974 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% ONE BIG STORY WE HAD ON NC POLICY WATCH THIS WEEK 23:29.074 --> 23:31.443 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WAS THE FACT THAT THERE IS A MOVE AFOOT 23:31.543 --> 23:32.677 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IN CONGRESS TO RENAME LEJUNE 23:32.778 --> 23:36.047 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HIGH SCHOOL ON THE CAMPUS OF THE CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT. 23:36.148 --> 23:39.851 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WALTER JONES HIGH SCHOOL IT HAS PRODUCED A FIRESTORM OF 23:39.951 --> 23:43.021 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OPPOSITION WE HAVE GOTTEN 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF SHARES AND 23:43.121 --> 23:46.291 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% STORY ON OUR WEB SITE DOESN'T SCORES OF NEGATIVE COMMENTS. 23:46.391 --> 23:48.360 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 23:48.460 --> 23:50.695 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >> DONNA MARTINEZ TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 23:50.796 --> 23:52.731 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS, 23:52.831 --> 23:54.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SO WE ALL KNOW WHAT THEY ARE AND WE THINK OF THEM IN 23:54.533 --> 23:56.835 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TERMS OF FASHION AND ENTERTAINMENT. BUT THERE'S A 23:56.935 --> 24:01.406 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GROWING TREND IN SOCIAL MEDIA INFLUENCERS OF YOUNG FARMERS 24:01.506 --> 24:04.376 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. THEY HAVE YOUTUBE CHANNELS WHERE THEY 24:04.476 --> 24:07.846 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAVE 10'S 100'S OF THOUSANDS OF FOLLOWERS AND THEY ARE HELPING 24:07.946 --> 24:10.715 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PEOPLE UNDERSTAND NOT ONLY WHERE FOOD COMES FROM ABOUT THE 24:10.816 --> 24:13.852 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% INDUSTRY ABOUT LOVE THE LAND ABOUT SELF-RELIANCE AND ALL 24:13.952 --> 24:16.655 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT I HOPE THAT TREND COMES TO NORTH CAROLINA WE NEED THAT. 24:16.755 --> 24:18.290 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >> JOHN HOOD TO TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 24:18.390 --> 24:19.524 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> AN INDIVIDUAL FROM TEXAS NAMED 24:19.624 --> 24:21.827 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PICO VISITED NORTH CAROLINA'S OUTER BANKS. 24:21.927 --> 24:22.861 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> IS THIS ANOTHER EMU, 24:22.961 --> 24:24.362 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% >> NO, IT IS NOT. >> ALL RIGHT. 24:24.463 --> 24:27.232 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> AND LAST YEAR PICO VISITED NEW YORK BUT STAYED CAPTORS 24:27.332 --> 24:31.269 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DON'T A SOLID TEXAS, HE IS A 7 A HALF FOOT MACO SHARK. 24:31.369 --> 24:34.105 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND I BELIEVE THAT PICO IS VISITING THESE OTHER STATES BUT 24:34.206 --> 24:36.441 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HE'S GOING TO KEEP HIS DOMICILE IN TEXAS BECAUSE IT HAS NO 24:36.541 --> 24:37.776 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% INCOME TAX. 24:37.876 --> 24:40.612 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% [LAUGHTER] >> I HOPE SO. 24:40.712 --> 24:44.416 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> YOU KNOW FOLKS, JOHN LAST -- >> KIND OF A LOAN SHARK WHEN YOU 24:44.516 --> 24:48.553 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% THINK ABOUT IT -- [ALL MOANING] 24:48.653 --> 24:52.324 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THIS IS REALLY GETTING WORSE. WELL, I JUST GOT TO TELL YOU, 24:52.424 --> 24:54.793 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS IS A BIG BIRTHDAY WEEKEND FOR SOME OF THE NC SPIN 24:54.893 --> 24:57.963 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% FAMILY, FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER JOE MAVERITIC IS 24:58.063 --> 25:02.734 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CELEBRATING A BIRTHDAY FORMER SENATOR HOWARD LEE FORMER HEAD 25:02.834 --> 25:06.605 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND YOURS TRULY SO BUT DAYS 25:06.705 --> 25:12.577 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% GREETINGS WERE ALL IN THE SIGNS OF LEO. 25:12.677 --> 25:14.479 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WELL, YOU'VE HEARD OUR SPIN ON THE ISSUES OF THE DAY. 25:14.579 --> 25:16.248 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO STAY INFORMED ALL DURING THE WEEK, 25:16.348 --> 25:18.884 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% SIGN UP FOR OUR FREE WEEKLY EMAIL NEWSLETTER, 25:18.984 --> 25:22.687 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK AND READ MY WEEKLY COLUMN VISIT OUR WEBSITE 25:22.787 --> 25:25.156 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% NCSPIN.COM OR CATCH NC SPIN ON FACEBOOK. 25:25.257 --> 25:26.725 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% JOIN US NEXT WEEK WHEN WE WILL HAVE MORE 25:26.825 --> 25:28.360 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% BALANCED DEBATE FOR THE OLD NORTH STATE. 25:28.460 --> 25:31.563 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% UNTIL THEN, STAY INFORMED AND WATCH OUT FOR THE SPIN. 25:32.163 --> 25:42.173 align:left position:87.5% line:5% size:2.5% ♪ 25:43.174 --> 25:45.844 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> FROM CREATING THE NEWEST MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY 25:45.944 --> 25:47.779 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% TO HELPING A LOVED ONE MAKE END OF LIFE 25:47.879 --> 25:51.850 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DECISIONS YOUR FAMILY PHYSICIAN IS WITH YOU EVERY STEP. 25:51.950 --> 25:55.353 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR EVERY STAGE OF LIFE FOR EVERY MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY. 25:55.453 --> 25:57.389 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% DESPITE A HEALTH CARE LANDSCAPE FRAUGHT 25:57.489 --> 26:01.126 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WITH POTENTIAL LANDMINES FAMILY PHYSICIANS ACROSS NORTH CAROLINA 26:01.560 --> 26:04.296 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ARE PROVIDING YOU A LIFETIME OF COMMITTED 26:04.396 --> 26:06.231 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% DEPENDABLE MEDICAL CARE. 26:06.865 --> 26:10.802 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FAMILY PHYSICIANS YOUR TRUSTED HEALTH CARE ADVISOR FOR LIFE. 26:13.538 --> 26:15.774 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% - [WOMAN] LIFE'S BUSY BUT YOU'RE IN CONTROL. 26:15.874 --> 26:17.676 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% AS AN ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE MEMBER, 26:17.776 --> 26:20.078 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% YOU HAVE ACCESS TO LOTS OF TOOLS TO HELP MANAGE 26:20.178 --> 26:22.280 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOUR HOME ENERGY USE AND BUDGET, 26:22.380 --> 26:25.183 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% SO YOU CAN FOCUS ON WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT. 26:26.918 --> 26:28.820 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% - [PRESENTER] NC SPIN IS BROUGHT TO YOU IN PART 26:28.920 --> 26:30.822 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% BY THE NORTH CAROLINA FARM BUREAU. 26:30.922 --> 26:32.624 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE FARM BUREAU AND AGRICULTURE, 26:32.724 --> 26:36.461 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WE KEEP NORTH CAROLINA GROWING. 26:39.864 --> 26:41.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% - NORTH CAROLINA CHANNEL IS MADE POSSIBLE 26:41.666 --> 26:44.302 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BY THE FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF VIEWERS LIKE YOU, 26:44.402 --> 26:46.705 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHO SUPPORT THE UNC-TV NETWORK.