WEBVTT 00:03.536 --> 00:06.506 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> THIS IS NC SPIN, AN UNREHEARSED DISCUSSION 00:06.606 --> 00:09.175 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% ON ISSUES OF INTEREST TO NORTH CAROLINIANS. 00:09.275 --> 00:12.212 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% NOW HERE'S YOUR MODERATOR, TOM CAMPBELL. 00:14.414 --> 00:17.384 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> HELLO, EVERYONE ON WELCOME TO NC SPIN, I'M BRAD CRONE 00:17.484 --> 00:20.487 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SITTING IN THIS WEEK FOR TOM CAMPBELL WHO'S ON VACATION. 00:20.587 --> 00:22.522 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% ON THIS MEMORIAL DAY EDITION, WE LOOK AT THE 00:22.622 --> 00:25.759 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GROWING CONCERNS ABOUT THE RISING TOLL OF STUDENT DEBT; 00:25.859 --> 00:28.228 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% LOCAL EFFORTS TO POLICE THE POLICE AND WE 00:28.328 --> 00:31.698 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PREVIEW THE MAJOR CAMPAIGNS DEVELOPING RIGHT NOW. 00:31.798 --> 00:33.266 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% JOINING US ON THE PANEL THIS WEEK ARE: 00:33.366 --> 00:35.602 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% BECKI GRAY, WITH THE JOHN LOCKE FOUNDATION, 00:35.702 --> 00:39.139 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% JOHN HOOD, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST AND AUTHOR, 00:39.239 --> 00:41.841 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% ROB SCHOFIELD, WITH NC POLICY WATCH, 00:41.941 --> 00:44.744 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% AND HOWARD LEE, FORMER STATE SENATOR. 00:44.844 --> 00:47.480 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THIS MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND, EVERYONE AT NC SPIN WOULD 00:47.580 --> 00:49.716 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND PAY TRIBUTE TO THE MEN AND 00:49.816 --> 00:53.186 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WOMEN WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES IN DEFENSE OF OUR NATION. 00:53.286 --> 00:55.155 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% AND TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEIR FAMILIES WHO HAVE 00:55.255 --> 00:57.157 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% SACRIFICED SO MUCH. 00:57.257 --> 00:59.459 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% NORTH CAROLINA HAS GIVEN MANY WHO HAVE FOUGHT AND 00:59.559 --> 01:02.796 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% SACRIFICED SO WE MIGHT LIVE IN PEACE. 01:02.896 --> 01:05.031 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% THIS WEEKEND OUR HEARTS ARE HEAVY 01:05.131 --> 01:07.300 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% WITH PRIDE AND GRATITUDE. 01:07.934 --> 01:10.804 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WE BEGIN OUR UNINTERRUPTED DEBATE AFTER THESE BRIEF 01:10.904 --> 01:12.505 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MESSAGES FROM OUR UNDERWRITERS. 01:15.975 --> 01:17.544 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% - [ANNOUNCER] THEY'RE UP BEFORE DAWN, 01:17.644 --> 01:20.180 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND WORK LATE INTO THE NIGHT. 01:20.280 --> 01:23.149 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% THEY BELIEVE IN HARD WORK, FAMILY, 01:23.249 --> 01:25.652 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. 01:25.752 --> 01:27.987 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% THEY STAND UP FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES 01:28.088 --> 01:30.623 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% WHEN OTHERS WALK AWAY. 01:30.723 --> 01:33.660 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT A FAIR SHAKE. 01:34.527 --> 01:36.062 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% THEY ARE FARMERS. 01:36.996 --> 01:39.032 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AT NORTH CAROLINA FARM BUREAU, 01:39.132 --> 01:41.968 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% WE ARE PROUD TO STAND WITH OUR FARMERS. 01:43.369 --> 01:45.438 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% - [ANNOUNCER] TODAY'S TOOLS MAKE YOU A REAL DIYER, 01:45.538 --> 01:47.474 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% AND AS A MEMBER OF AN ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE, 01:47.574 --> 01:50.810 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU HAVE LOTS OF VALUABLE TOOLS TO HELP YOU DO IT YOURSELF 01:50.910 --> 01:53.313 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% IN CONTROLLING YOUR HOME ENERGY USE AND BUDGET, 01:53.413 --> 01:57.884 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% LEAVING YOU FREE TO BE DAD. 01:58.751 --> 02:00.887 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> PARTNERS FOR INNOVATION IN HEALTH CARE. 02:00.987 --> 02:03.056 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WE ARE SUPPORTING COMMON SENSE SOLUTIONS 02:03.156 --> 02:05.692 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR NORTH CAROLINA'S HEALTH CARE DELIVERY SYSTEM. 02:05.792 --> 02:09.929 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PROMOTING ACCESS, AFFORDABILITY, QUALITY CARE, AND INNOVATION. 02:10.029 --> 02:13.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% VISIT US ON THE WEB AT PIHC.INFO 02:14.267 --> 02:16.636 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> PRODUCTION UNDERWRITING PROVIDED BY THE NORTH CAROLINA 02:16.736 --> 02:18.972 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ACADEMY OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS. 02:19.072 --> 02:22.742 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FAMILY PHYSICIANS, YOUR TRUSTED HEALTHCARE ADVISOR FOR LIFE. 02:24.511 --> 02:25.512 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% LET'S GET STARTED. 02:26.146 --> 02:28.948 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% CAMPAIGN 2020 IS TAKING SHAPE WITH BOTH PARTIES 02:29.048 --> 02:31.184 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% WORKING TO RECRUIT CANDIDATES AND PUT 02:31.284 --> 02:33.820 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% TOGETHER A SLATE FOR NEXT YEAR'S GENERAL ELECTION. 02:33.920 --> 02:35.822 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING RACES SO FAR 02:35.922 --> 02:38.158 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% IS THE US SENATE WHERE INCUMBENT THOM TILLIS IS 02:38.258 --> 02:40.527 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% FACING A CREDIBLE PRIMARY CHALLENGER AND THE 02:40.627 --> 02:43.463 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% DEMOCRATS HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND A CANDIDATE. 02:44.397 --> 02:47.400 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% QUESTION 1 TO BECKI - HOW SERIOUS SHOULD SEN. TILLIS 02:47.500 --> 02:50.003 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% TAKE THE GARLAND TUCKER CAMPAIGN? 02:50.103 --> 02:52.939 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> ANY CANDIDATE INCUMBENT SHOULD TAKE A CHALLENGE VERY 02:53.039 --> 02:55.909 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SERIOUSLY AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS ANY DIFFERENT AT ALL. 02:56.009 --> 03:00.146 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ON SENATOR TILLIS HAS A RECORD TO RUN ON AND ON WE'LL 03:00.246 --> 03:03.449 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% BE HEARING A LOT ABOUT THAT THINK THE SENATOR TILLIS 03:03.550 --> 03:06.419 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SHOULD LOOK AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LET THE VOTERS 03:06.519 --> 03:09.055 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% KNOW WHAT HE'S DONE HAS A LONG RECORD NOT JUST IN THE US 03:09.155 --> 03:11.491 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SENATE, BUT ALSO IN THE NORTH CAROLINA HOUSE DON'T FORGET HE 03:11.591 --> 03:14.694 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WAS THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE. I THINK TO EXPECT THAT HE WOULD 03:14.794 --> 03:17.797 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% NOT HAVE A CHALLENGER FOR THIS FIRST TIME THAT HE'S LOOKING 03:17.897 --> 03:21.201 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR REELECTION WOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALLY UNREALISTIC AND I THINK 03:21.301 --> 03:24.971 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% COMPETITION IS GOOD. I THINK MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR VOTERS 03:25.071 --> 03:27.273 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CANDIDATES MAKES THE WHOLE 03:27.373 --> 03:31.077 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% PROCESS RICHER AND SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS. 03:31.177 --> 03:33.179 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> JOHN IS THIS A PHILOSOPHICAL FIGHT WITH 03:33.279 --> 03:37.517 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE RIGHT WING SAYING WE DON'T REALLY LIKE THOM TILLIS WE SEE 03:37.617 --> 03:41.621 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HIM AS A MODERATE AND CENTRIST AND WILL TILLIS EVER BE ABLE 03:41.721 --> 03:43.790 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% TO PLACATE THE ULTRA CONSERVATIVES? 03:43.890 --> 03:47.460 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> WELL, I THINK THAT PEOPLE WANT TO PUT THE TILLIS PRIMARY 03:47.560 --> 03:50.496 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WITH GARLAND TUCKER AND PERHAPS OTHERS WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW 03:50.597 --> 03:53.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN A STRICTLY IT A LOGICAL BOX I THINK IT'S HARD TO DO THAT IF 03:53.900 --> 03:56.569 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED WHEN GARLAND TUCKER ANNOUNCED, 03:56.669 --> 03:59.005 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OF COURSE TUCKER LIKE A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES HAD EXPRESSED 03:59.105 --> 04:03.676 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CONCERNS ABOUT TRUMP DURING THAT 2015 2016 PERIOD, TILLIS 04:03.776 --> 04:06.312 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SUPPORTERS TYPICALLY PEOPLE IN CONGRESS, THE PEOPLE WHO WORK 04:06.412 --> 04:08.648 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FOR PEOPLE IN CONGRESS WENT IN AND PULLED THOSE THINGS AND 04:08.748 --> 04:12.352 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CALLED GARLAND TUCKER AND OUT OF TOUCH LIBERAL WHO IS AGAINST 04:12.452 --> 04:15.221 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% DONALD TRUMP NOW THAT IS NOT THE KIND OF RHETORIC WE WOULD 04:15.321 --> 04:18.524 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TYPICALLY SEE IN A MODERATE VERSUS CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN 04:18.625 --> 04:21.995 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRIMARY CIRCA 1980 OR SOMETHING IT JUST A DIFFERENT THING. 04:22.095 --> 04:25.398 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BOTH SIDES ARE CLAIMING TO BE CLOSER TO TRUMP THAN THE OTHER, 04:25.498 --> 04:27.834 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% I THINK IT'S HARD TO JAM THAT INTO ANY IDEOLOGICAL BOX. 04:27.934 --> 04:31.104 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THE YOUNG PERSON WHO WROTE THAT 04:31.204 --> 04:34.574 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRESS RELEASE ABOUT GARLAND TUCKER BEING LIBERAL AND CARTER 04:34.674 --> 04:37.744 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BEING OUT OF TOUCH. CARTER HAS FORGOTTEN MORE ABOUT NORTH 04:37.844 --> 04:39.746 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CAROLINA POLITICS THAN THEY WILL EVER REALLY KNOW. 04:39.846 --> 04:41.748 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ROB, LET'S LOOK AT THE DEMOCRAT SIDE. 04:41.848 --> 04:47.120 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% YOU HAVE JANET COWELL BEING COURTED BY THE DSCC 04:47.220 --> 04:50.290 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ERIC MANSFIELD A FORMER STATE SENATOR PHYSICIAN OUT OF 04:50.390 --> 04:54.527 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FAYETTEVILLE HERE IN RALEIGH, STATE SENATOR ERICA SMITH HELD 04:54.627 --> 04:59.299 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% A CAMPAIGN KICKOFF LAST WEEK. FORMER STATE SENATOR CAL 04:59.399 --> 05:01.934 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% CUNNINGHAM IS RUNNING FOR LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR BUT IS 05:02.035 --> 05:06.639 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BEING HEAVILY COURTED BY THE DSCC. THEY CONTEND THAT THERE 05:06.739 --> 05:09.542 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AS POLLING DATA THAT CAL CUNNINGHAM WOULD PERFORM VERY 05:09.642 --> 05:12.612 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WELL IN A MATCHUP AGAINST THOM TILLIS WHERE'S THE DEMOCRATIC 05:12.712 --> 05:13.913 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% SLATE RIGHT NOW. 05:14.013 --> 05:15.715 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> WELL I THINK IT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE GROUP. I MEAN THE 05:15.815 --> 05:19.552 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% REALITY IS THAT TILLIS HIMSELF DIDN'T ANNOUNCE FOR 2014 UNTIL 05:19.652 --> 05:22.355 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ABOUT THIS TIME IN 2013, SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT IT'S 05:22.455 --> 05:25.124 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% NOT CLARIFIED THAT IT'S A IT'S A GROUP OF VERY STRONG 05:25.224 --> 05:27.460 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CANDIDATES, I HAVE TO MAKE A DISCLOSURE THAT ERIC MANSFIELD 05:27.560 --> 05:29.762 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% DOCUMENT STILL SERVES ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE 05:29.862 --> 05:32.699 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PARENT ORGANIZATION OF NC POLICY WATCH BUT I CAN SAY THAT 05:32.799 --> 05:35.702 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THEY'RE ALL VERY COMPETITIVE. STRONG CANDIDATES. TILLIS IS 05:35.802 --> 05:38.438 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% NUMBERS ARE HAVE BEEN AROUND LOW 30'S EVER SINCE HE'S BEEN 05:38.538 --> 05:41.007 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ELECTED, HE'S A VERY VULNERABLE. KENNEDY WON A VERY 05:41.107 --> 05:43.976 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% NARROW ELECTION VICTORY OVER KAY HAGAN IN 24 TO REMEMBER 05:44.077 --> 05:47.013 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT WAS THE WHOLE BOWL, LOOK SUPPOSE A CRISIS THAT CAME AT 05:47.113 --> 05:49.916 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE LAST MINUTE THAT MAY HAVE TIPPED IN HIS FAVOR SO HE'S GOT 05:50.016 --> 05:52.819 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A HE'S GOT A TOUGH ROAD TO HOPE WHOEVER THE DEMOCRATS 05:52.919 --> 05:55.455 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> WOULD YOU SAY JANET COWELL AND CAL CUNNINGHAM 05:55.555 --> 05:56.689 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% WOULD BE THE TOP 2 05:56.789 --> 05:58.858 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% FAVORITES FOR THE DEMOCRATIC SENATE CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE? 05:58.958 --> 06:00.193 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I THINK IT'S EXPECTED THAT THAT BOTH 06:00.293 --> 06:01.594 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% WILL HAVE A LOT OF SUCCESS RAISING MONEY, 06:01.694 --> 06:03.329 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WHO 06:03.429 --> 06:05.798 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE HAVE A VERY DIVERSE TICKET. 06:05.898 --> 06:08.868 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE DEMOCRATS PUT FORTH A CANDIDATE OF COLOR FOR SOME HIGH 06:08.968 --> 06:11.704 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% OFFICE AND I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE AS WELL. 06:11.804 --> 06:13.206 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T UNDERESTIMATE 06:13.306 --> 06:15.141 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% ERICA SMITH EITHER. 06:15.241 --> 06:17.910 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> HOWARD LEE IN THE SCHEME OF NATIONAL POLITICS IN STATE 06:18.010 --> 06:21.714 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% POLITICS ACROSS THE STATE. HOW DO YOU SEE 2020 DEVELOP IN 06:21.814 --> 06:24.417 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE US SENATE RACE, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING LIKE WE SAW IN 06:24.517 --> 06:29.422 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% 1984 WITH THE HELMS HOT RACE OR IN 1990 WITH THE GAP HELMS 06:29.522 --> 06:32.759 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% RACE WILL IT BE A A NATIONAL STAGE RACE. 06:32.859 --> 06:34.761 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >> I THINK NORTH CAROLINA CERTAINLY 06:34.861 --> 06:38.398 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HAS POSITIONED ITSELF TO GET A LOT OF NATIONAL ATTENTION 06:38.498 --> 06:41.334 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT REASON BEING THAT ALL STATE SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE MORE 06:41.434 --> 06:44.337 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BALANCED AND MORE CLOSE TO A PURPLE STATE, THE MANY OF THOSE 06:44.437 --> 06:48.574 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AND THEREFORE PEOPLE WILL BE LOOKING TO US TO HOPE FOR MOOD 06:48.674 --> 06:52.512 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BRING SOME BALANCE INTO THIS INTO THIS PROCESS I THINK TOM 06:52.612 --> 06:56.616 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAS REALLY MR. WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW A LEVEL OF 06:56.716 --> 07:00.453 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% STRAIGHT AS HE BEFORE AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SEEN HIM BE 07:00.553 --> 07:03.556 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MORE AGGRESSIVE IN TERMS OF PROTECTING THE INTERESTS OF THE 07:03.656 --> 07:06.526 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PEOPLE, BUT I THINK IS GOING TO BE NOT GET A LOT OF NATIONAL 07:06.626 --> 07:07.827 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% ATTENTION. 07:07.927 --> 07:09.662 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> BECKI ANOTHER RACE PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO ACROSS 07:09.762 --> 07:12.398 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% THE STATE IS DEVELOPING PRIMARY IN THE REPUBLICAN 07:12.498 --> 07:15.535 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PARTY FOR GOVERNOR THERE'S TALK THAT STATE REPRESENTATIVE HOLLY 07:15.635 --> 07:18.504 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GRANGE FROM WILMINGTON IS PLANNING TO MOUNT A CHALLENGE 07:18.604 --> 07:20.940 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AGAINST INCUMBENT LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR DAN FAR. 07:21.040 --> 07:22.975 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY SECRET, SHE'S LOOKING AT THAT 07:23.075 --> 07:24.444 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RACE, I SPOKE TO HER LAST WEEK I DON'T THINK SHE'S MADE A 07:24.544 --> 07:28.614 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DECISION FOR SURE, BUT YOU KNOW AGAIN FOR THE SHOULD NOT COME 07:28.714 --> 07:32.084 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AS A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE HORIZON AT 07:32.185 --> 07:34.754 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE RISING STARS IN BOTH PARTIES MEAN YOU JUST MENTIONED 07:34.854 --> 07:36.989 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SOME OF THESE FOLKS THAT MAY GET INTO THE DEMOCRATIC RACE 07:37.089 --> 07:40.259 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% FOR THE US SENATE RICE ON YOU KNOW WE SEE THIS HOLLY GRANGE 07:40.359 --> 07:42.462 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% IS A GREAT CANDIDATE. SHE WAS ONE OF THE FEW WOMEN THAT HAVE 07:42.562 --> 07:46.999 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BEEN THROUGH WEST POINT SHE'S A VETERAN SHE'S REPRESENTED HER 07:47.099 --> 07:49.836 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DISTRICT REALLY WELL WITH SOME REAL CONTROVERSY LYCIAN OF THE 07:49.936 --> 07:53.506 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GEN X AND FILM CREDITS AND LOTS OF THINGS LIKE THAT YOU KNOW 07:53.606 --> 07:57.443 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THAT SHE WOULD WANT TO OR LOOK TO A HIGHER AND YOU KNOW A 07:57.543 --> 08:01.314 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% STATEWIDE RACE SHOULDN'T BE A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY. 08:01.414 --> 08:04.183 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> ROB, ON THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL SIDE 23 CANDIDATES 08:04.283 --> 08:08.120 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND COUNTING RIGHT NOW MAYBE 24. 08:08.221 --> 08:10.523 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IS BIDEN FRONT RUNNER STATUS IN THE STATE RIGHT NOW? 08:10.623 --> 08:12.525 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DOUBT THAT HE'S WAY AHEAD. 08:12.625 --> 08:15.495 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% SANDERS AND YOU HAVE THAT OPERATE NAME RECOGNITION. 08:15.595 --> 08:18.297 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IT'S POSSIBLE, I COULD SEE A COUPLE OF ONE OR 2 PEOPLE 08:18.397 --> 08:20.967 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% EMERGING FROM THE PACK AND MY GOSH WHAT A SCRUM I THINK AT 08:21.067 --> 08:24.670 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THIS POINT BIDEN HAS A WELLSPRING OF SUPPORT. HE'S IS 08:24.770 --> 08:28.374 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% NAME RECOGNITION IS HIGH. HE HAS THE CONNECTION TO OBAMA 08:28.474 --> 08:31.844 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I THINK YOU'LL UNLESS SOMETHING DRAMATIC CHANGES HE'S GOING TO 08:31.944 --> 08:33.112 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% HAVE A REAL LEG UP. 08:33.212 --> 08:35.414 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> AS THESE CAMPAIGNS AND UNFOLD IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE 08:35.515 --> 08:36.749 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% AN INTERESTING SUMMER. 08:36.849 --> 08:38.885 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% LET'S SHIFT TO ANOTHER TOPIC. 08:38.985 --> 08:41.220 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% LAST WEEK BILLIONAIRE INVESTOR ROBERT SMITH TOLD STUDENTS AT 08:41.320 --> 08:44.524 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MOREHOUSE COLLEGE IN ATLANTA THAT HIS FOUNDATION WAS WIPING 08:44.624 --> 08:45.858 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% OUT THEIR STUDENT LOANS. 08:45.958 --> 08:48.628 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THAT'S A $40 MILLION ACT OF GENEROSITY. 08:48.728 --> 08:50.329 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% REMINDS US THAT THE NORTH CAROLINA STATE 08:50.429 --> 08:53.099 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CONSTITUTION PROMISES STUDENTS AN AFFORDABLE TUITION TO OUR 08:53.199 --> 08:56.135 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% SECONDARY SCHOOLS WITH GRADUATION IS OVER THE STAR 08:56.235 --> 08:59.472 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% REALITY SETS IN AND OUT OF STUDENTS PAY BACK THEIR DEBT. 08:59.572 --> 09:01.707 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% QUESTION ONE TO HOWARD LEE SENATOR IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE 09:01.807 --> 09:04.944 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% REALLY PUTTING IT TO THE NEXT GENERATION WHEN WE SETTLED IN 09:05.044 --> 09:06.712 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% WITH SUCH DEBT TO PAY FOR COLLEGE. 09:06.812 --> 09:08.047 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% WHAT'S THE ANSWER? 09:08.147 --> 09:10.683 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> WELL, I CERTAINLY THINK ONE OPTION IS 09:10.783 --> 09:13.052 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FOR STUDENTS NOT TO THINK THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE CADILLAC 09:13.152 --> 09:16.822 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% COLLEGES OF THEY CAN BEGIN THEIR EDUCATION AT A NOON 09:16.923 --> 09:19.959 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% COLLEGE WAS A LOT CHEAPER, IT CERTAINLY WON'T REQUIRE THE 09:20.059 --> 09:24.163 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MARKET TO OF OF THEIR LIVES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PUT A HECK 09:24.263 --> 09:27.800 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% OF A LOT MORE EMPHASIS ON ENCOURAGING STUDENTS ALSO TO 09:27.900 --> 09:31.003 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% RECOGNIZE THAT THEY CAN WORK WHILE THEY GO TO SCHOOL SOME OF 09:31.103 --> 09:35.107 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% US DID DO THAT AND OF COURSE OF NOT HAVE TO BORROW MONEY TO PAY 09:35.207 --> 09:37.543 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THE TUITION. SO I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OPTIONS THAT 09:37.643 --> 09:40.880 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ARE AVAILABLE BUT SOMEHOW STUDENTS FEEL THAT THEY HAVE TO 09:40.980 --> 09:43.616 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BE IN THE TOP INSTITUTIONS AND IN SO DOING IT'S GOING TO COST 09:43.716 --> 09:45.918 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% A LOT. 09:46.018 --> 09:48.387 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. DON CURTIS WILL ATTEST TO WORK FULL 09:48.487 --> 09:52.491 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TIME AT WPTF WHILE GOING TO NC STATE, MY TUITION WAS $365 A 09:52.592 --> 09:57.563 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SEMESTER IN THE EARLY 80'S, ROB, HOW DO THE CHILDREN HOW TO 09:57.663 --> 10:00.366 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE MILLENNIALS DEAL WITH THIS RISING COST OF COLLEGE 10:00.466 --> 10:01.367 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% EDUCATION? 10:01.467 --> 10:03.135 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> MY TUITION WAS $100. 10:03.235 --> 10:06.339 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A TRIMESTER AT UCLA BACK IN THE LATE 70'S AND EARLY 10:06.439 --> 10:09.275 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% 1980'S. I MEAN THAT BESPEAKS THE FACT THAT WE'VE JUST 10:09.375 --> 10:11.944 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% INVESTED IN HIGH THEIR EDUCATION, WE'RE NOT MAKING IT 10:12.044 --> 10:14.380 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AS AFFORDABLE AS IT SHOULD BE OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS IS FREE 10:14.480 --> 10:16.983 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AS PRACTICABLE I MEAN I THINK THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT 10:17.083 --> 10:19.986 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ISSUE THERE'S ALSO THE ISSUE THAT A LOT OF THESE LOANS THAT 10:20.086 --> 10:22.355 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% KIDS HAVE GOTTEN THEMSELVES INTO NOT EVERYBODY'S GOT A LOW 10:22.455 --> 10:25.191 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% COST FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GUARANTEE LONG LOT OF KIDS GET 10:25.291 --> 10:28.294 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INTO HIGH INTEREST CREDIT CARDS, PREDATORY LOANS AND LOAN 10:28.394 --> 10:31.097 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SERVICERS WHO WORK ON BEHALF OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFTEN 10:31.197 --> 10:34.166 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% EMPLOYED PREDATORY TACTICS, I MEAN THIS IS A HUGE CRISIS IN 10:34.266 --> 10:36.035 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OUR COUNTRY AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASON THE 10:36.135 --> 10:40.406 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CANDIDATES THAT ARE PUSHING THE IDEA OF AFFORDABLE FREE PUBLIC 10:40.506 --> 10:43.275 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HIGHER EDUCATION AS THEY HAVE IN WESTERN EUROPE IN SO MANY 10:43.376 --> 10:45.878 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% COUNTRIES ARE GOING TO BE MET WITH A LOT OF SUPPORT I THINK 10:45.978 --> 10:47.313 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IT'S THE DIRECTION WE NEED TO GO. 10:47.413 --> 10:50.282 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> JOHN LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS FOR US MAGAZINE SAYS THE 10:50.383 --> 10:53.686 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AVERAGE STUDENT LOAN DEBT IN THE STATE AND WORK ON US 26,000 10:53.786 --> 10:58.057 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% $614 THE AVERAGE NATIONAL AVERAGE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE 10:58.157 --> 11:04.697 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% 33,310 THAT'S A MONTHLY LOAN PAYMENT OF $393 A MONTH. 11:04.797 --> 11:07.133 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> YEAH, THAT THESE ARE LARGE NUMBERS TO WISH A NORTH 11:07.233 --> 11:10.102 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CAROLINA HAS INCREASED SUBSTANTIALLY OVER TIME IT IS 11:10.202 --> 11:13.105 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STILL VERY LOW BY NATIONAL STANDARDS, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST 11:13.205 --> 11:16.075 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GENEROUSLY FUNDED UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS IN THE COUNTRY. IT 11:16.175 --> 11:22.114 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CONTINUES TO BE SO I THINK THAT THE THE FOCUS ON WHICH GROUP OF 11:22.214 --> 11:25.651 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PEOPLE PAYS THE BILL SHOULD THE TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE PARENTS AND 11:25.751 --> 11:28.387 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THEIR IN THEIR STATE SHOULD BE STUDENTS LATER LIFE PAY BACK 11:28.487 --> 11:30.790 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% LOANS THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION IT'S NOT THE MOST 11:30.890 --> 11:33.559 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BORING QUESTION. MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE COST OF 11:33.659 --> 11:37.329 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EDUCATION, NOT WHO PAYS IT THAT'S THE PRICE QUESTION AND I 11:37.430 --> 11:40.032 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON IS DELIVERING AID 11:40.132 --> 11:42.735 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AND HOWARD WAS TALK ABOUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF COMMUNITY 11:42.835 --> 11:45.538 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% COLLEGE VERSUS A FOUR-YEAR SCHOOL TO START WITH BUT IT 11:45.638 --> 11:49.041 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOES BEYOND THAT JUST DIFFERENT WAYS TO DELIVER THE SERVICES SO 11:49.141 --> 11:52.645 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY ARE MORE AFFORDABLE SIMPLY SHIFTING THIS TIME BILL AROUND 11:52.745 --> 11:53.913 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% IS NOT THE ANSWER. 11:54.013 --> 11:57.116 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> BECKI, COLLEGE DEBTS, A NATIONAL ISSUE ON THE ECONOMY 11:57.216 --> 12:03.923 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% FRONT ONLY ECONOMIC FRONT. A 1.5 $7 TRILLION 5.1 MILLION 12:04.023 --> 12:08.594 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BORROWERS AND ONE 3RD OF THOSE LOANS RIGHT NOW ARE PASS TO 60 12:08.694 --> 12:10.096 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% DAYS. 12:10.196 --> 12:11.497 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> YEAH, I MEAN THIS IS A IT'S A NORTH CAROLINA PROBLEM AND 12:11.597 --> 12:15.801 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IT'S A NATIONAL PROBLEM IS YOU DESCRIBE I READ THAT UM STUDENT 12:15.901 --> 12:19.071 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LOAN IS SECOND ONLY TO MORTGAGE LINES. I THINK NOW SO IT'S A 12:19.171 --> 12:21.006 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BIG DEAL. BUT THE THING THAT I THINK IS MISSING IN THIS 12:21.107 --> 12:23.909 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DISCUSSION IN MANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS IS HIM FRED, YOU 12:24.009 --> 12:27.580 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% INTRODUCED THIS IS THE WE HAVE SADDLED THE STUDENTS WITH THIS 12:27.680 --> 12:31.484 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DEBT WE HAVEN'T SETTLED IN THE BODY WITH DEBT. THOSE PEOPLE 12:31.584 --> 12:34.620 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAVE MADE DECISIONS STATEMENTS THEIR FAMILIES, YOU KNOW 12:34.720 --> 12:38.190 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WHATEVER CIRCUMSTANCES THINK THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY 12:38.290 --> 12:41.127 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PIECE OF THIS AND NOW LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE COLLEGE MORE 12:41.227 --> 12:43.662 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AFFORDABLE LIKE WE'VE DONE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND I THINK 12:43.763 --> 12:46.198 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WE'VE DONE A FABULOUS JOB WITH OUR NORTH CAROLINA PROMISE 12:46.298 --> 12:50.369 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WHERE TUITION IS $500 AT 3 OF OUR UNIVERSITIES MAKING 12:50.469 --> 12:54.106 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COMMUNITY COLLEGE IS AN OPTION TO BEGIN STUDENTS STOP AND THEN 12:54.206 --> 12:56.375 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THE OTHER THING THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS GOING TO REQUIRE 12:56.475 --> 12:58.644 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% FINANCIAL LITERACY AS PART OF THE CURRICULUM IN NORTH 12:58.744 --> 13:02.882 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CAROLINA HIGH SCHOOLS, JOHN IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SAID 13:02.982 --> 13:05.184 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE WALKING INTO. 13:05.284 --> 13:08.521 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> VALUE IS REALLY IMPORTANT YOU'RE CORRECT. THEY MADE THE 13:08.621 --> 13:12.424 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CONSUMER MADE THE DECISION ON WHAT CHOICE THEY WERE GOING TO 13:12.525 --> 13:14.026 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% PROCEED WITH. 13:14.126 --> 13:16.529 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PROTESTERS WERE OUTSIDE THE EXECUTIVE MANSION IN RALEIGH 13:16.629 --> 13:18.764 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS WEEK DEMANDING THE GOVERNOR GET INVOLVED IN RECENT 13:18.864 --> 13:21.667 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% POLICE SHOOTING INCIDENTS IN CHARLOTTE AND RALEIGH LAST WEEK 13:21.767 --> 13:24.103 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CITIZEN STORM AROUND THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING SHUTTING IT 13:24.203 --> 13:28.240 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DOWN DEMANDING A CITIZEN REVIEW PANEL IN CHARLOTTE WBTV HAD TO 13:28.340 --> 13:31.343 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SUE THE CITY TO GET ACCESS TO A VIDEO OF A POLICE SHOOTING. 13:31.443 --> 13:35.014 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EARLIER IN THE MONTH WE'RE HEARING MORE AND MORE CALLS FOR 13:35.114 --> 13:38.350 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CITIZEN REVIEW AND OVERSIGHT PANELS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. 13:38.450 --> 13:41.620 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WILL WE POLICE THE POLICE? QUESTION ONE TO ROB, WHY DO 13:41.720 --> 13:43.289 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OPPOSE HAVING 13:43.389 --> 13:44.957 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% A CITIZEN POLICE OVERSIGHT PANEL. 13:45.057 --> 13:46.792 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> WELL, I MEAN THERE WAS A STORY IN RALEIGH NEWS AND 13:46.892 --> 13:49.461 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OBSERVER THIS WEEK THAT HIGHLIGHTED WHY THEY DON'T LIKE 13:49.562 --> 13:51.897 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE IDEA OF OVERSIGHT, IT'S IT'S NATURAL WHO WANTS TO HAVE 13:51.997 --> 13:53.766 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SOMEBODY LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER SECOND GUESSING THE 13:53.866 --> 13:58.237 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WORK YOU DO ESPECIALLY IN SUCH AN IMPORT AREA, BUT THE REALITY 13:58.337 --> 14:01.407 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IS THAT WE HAVE TO THIS IS AN AREA IN WHICH I MEAN PEOPLE ARE 14:01.507 --> 14:03.843 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MAKING LIFE AND DEATH DECISIONS, WE KNOW THAT YOUNG 14:03.943 --> 14:06.712 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MEN PARTICULARLY YOUNG MEN OF COLOR ARE BEING KILLED IN THE 14:06.812 --> 14:10.583 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STATE IN THIS COUNTRY AND ITS UNDERSTANDABLE THAT COMMUNITIES 14:10.683 --> 14:13.219 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FEEL WRONGED AND THEY WANT TO HAVE AN EXPLANATION OF WHAT THE 14:13.319 --> 14:16.755 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HECK'S GOING ON WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE CITIZEN REVIEW PANELS 14:16.856 --> 14:19.091 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR MAYBE 200 POLICE DEPARTMENTS AROUND THE COUNTRY, 14:19.191 --> 14:20.759 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% NOT VERY MANY OF THE THOUSANDS THAT THERE ARE AND HAVE BEEN 14:20.860 --> 14:23.996 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MIXED REVIEWS AS TO HOW SUCCESSFUL THEY ARE SOME PEOPLE 14:24.096 --> 14:26.765 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SAY WE BE DO WE DO BETTER WITH AN INDEPENDENT INSPECTOR 14:26.866 --> 14:30.536 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GENERAL IN SOME INSTANCES THAN HAVING A POLITICAL BODY BUT THE 14:30.636 --> 14:32.905 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SUCCESSFUL 14:33.005 --> 14:35.307 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% POLICING THE POLICE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET ALONG WITH THE 14:35.407 --> 14:37.476 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% COMMUNITY THEY HAVE TO HAVE FAITH IN EACH OTHER IS NOT TO 14:37.576 --> 14:40.913 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BE AN ADVERSARIAL RELATIONSHIP AND THESE KINDS OF PANELS CAN 14:41.013 --> 14:42.381 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% PLAY A ROLE IN MAKING THAT HAPPEN. 14:42.481 --> 14:45.050 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> JOHN IN NASH COUNTY, THE SHERIFF DOWN THERE KEYSTONE'S 14:45.150 --> 14:47.953 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND HAS BEEN 14:48.053 --> 14:49.421 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% VERY SUCCESSFUL. 14:49.521 --> 14:50.756 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CAN WE REPLICATE THAT MODEL? 14:50.856 --> 14:52.491 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I THINK YOU CAN REPLICATE IT IF 14:52.591 --> 14:54.960 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT ROB WAS GETTING AT 14:55.060 --> 14:57.496 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REGARDING THE THE DIFFERENT PERFORMANCE OF DIFFERENT MODELS 14:57.596 --> 15:00.733 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE SIMPLY COULDN'T CONCLUDE FOR WHAT WE 15:00.833 --> 15:03.969 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% KNOW RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE COUNTRY AT LEAST THAT THESE 15:04.069 --> 15:06.839 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% REVIEW COMMISSIONS NECESSARILY MAKE THINGS BETTER SOMETIMES 15:06.939 --> 15:09.575 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THEY DO SOMETIMES MAKE THEM WORSE BECAUSE IT CREATES 15:09.675 --> 15:12.444 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ADDITIONAL ACRIMONY MAKES IT HARDER FOR THE RELATIONSHIPS TO 15:12.544 --> 15:15.047 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BE DEVELOPED. I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED IN ASHE COUNTY IS A 15:15.147 --> 15:17.883 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MORE CONSTRUCTIVE APPROACH WHERE YOU REALLY ARE INVOLVING 15:17.983 --> 15:21.387 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE COMMUNITY. BUT YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT POLICE OFFICERS 15:21.487 --> 15:24.723 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ARE GOING TO BE A TREATED IN A WAY THAT THEY WOULD FEEL IS 15:24.823 --> 15:27.960 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GROSSLY UNFAIR THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP ANYBODY BECAUSE POLICE 15:28.060 --> 15:32.264 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OFFICERS WALK INTO HARM'S WAY RIGHT ROUTINELY. AND OF COURSE 15:32.364 --> 15:34.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT WHEN THEY MAKE MISTAKES HAVE TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR 15:34.433 --> 15:38.170 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THAT THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT ON THE WHOLE WE HAVE THEIR BACK 15:38.270 --> 15:41.507 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THEY WERE NOT THAT THAT POLICE OFFICERS ARE IN A SITUATION 15:41.607 --> 15:44.877 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WHERE THEY ARE SO SCARED OF WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN THAT THEY 15:44.977 --> 15:48.547 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ACTUALLY PUT PEOPLE'S LIVES AT RISK WHICH IS A REAL DANGER. 15:48.647 --> 15:50.983 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> HOWARD, WHAT ROLE DOES THE GOVERNOR PLAY IN 15:51.083 --> 15:52.818 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THIS THERE WERE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN 15:52.918 --> 15:55.521 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% TWICE IN THE LAST WEEK JUST RAISE AND 15:55.621 --> 15:57.423 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% ALL TYPES OF SAND. 15:57.523 --> 15:59.258 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WE NEED TO HEAR THE GOVERNOR'S VOICE HERE? 15:59.358 --> 16:03.595 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WELL, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. THIS IS A 16:03.696 --> 16:06.799 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LOCAL DECISION BASICALLY IT'S A WOMAN ON THE COMMUNITY TO ADOPT 16:06.899 --> 16:10.803 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% THUS THIS PROCESS. I WAS HEARING ABOUT THE CITIZEN 16:10.903 --> 16:14.206 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% REVIEW COMMISSIONS WHEN I WAS MAYOR OF CHAPEL HILL 50 YEARS 16:14.306 --> 16:17.609 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AGO, SO THIS IS NOTHING NEW BUT THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME IS 16:17.710 --> 16:20.546 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN SET UP THE CITIZEN REVIEW COMMISSION 16:20.646 --> 16:23.582 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND THEN THAT THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM THAT DOES NOT SOLVE THE 16:23.682 --> 16:26.518 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PROBLEM CITIZENS HAVE TO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY TO THEM 16:26.618 --> 16:29.355 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% SALES. ON THE OTHER HAND POLICEMEN ARE BEING KILLED 16:29.455 --> 16:32.992 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% EVERY DAY BY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND MANY OF THE 16:33.092 --> 16:36.528 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CITIZEN KNOW WHO THESE THREATS AWE AND THEY WANT TO SAY TO TRY 16:36.628 --> 16:39.732 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO BRING YOU TO THE ATTENTION OF THE POLICE. THE PANEL I JUST 16:39.832 --> 16:43.669 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THINK THAT THOUGH WE SEE THESE SIMPLE SOLUTIONS AND THINK THAT 16:43.769 --> 16:45.938 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS WOULD BE THE ANSWER TO ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS AND THAT'S NOT 16:46.038 --> 16:47.206 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% THE CASE. 16:47.306 --> 16:49.441 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> BECKI IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR COMPROMISE HERE CAN WE GET 16:49.541 --> 16:50.776 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% THE MIDDLE GROUND. 16:50.876 --> 16:52.845 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> THERE'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE A MINUTE SENATOR LEE YOU JUST 16:52.945 --> 16:55.214 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SPOKE ABOUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME SORT OF 16:55.314 --> 16:58.083 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COMPROMISE. THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME SORT OF MUTUAL TRUST ME IF 16:58.183 --> 17:00.986 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THERE'S A CORE FUNCTION OF GOVERNMENT THAT I THINK WE CAN 17:01.086 --> 17:04.923 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ALL AGREE ON IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY IS THAT CITIZENS HAVE TO HAVE 17:05.024 --> 17:08.460 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE CONFIDENCE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT 17:08.560 --> 17:10.963 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HAS TO HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN ORDER TO GO INTO THOSE 17:11.063 --> 17:13.665 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% DANGEROUS SITUATIONS AND DO THEIR JOB SO I THINK WE'RE 17:13.766 --> 17:15.734 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A COMPROMISE BECAUSE IT'S IN 17:15.834 --> 17:18.504 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EVERYBODY'S BEST INTEREST TO DO WHAT WE DO DON'T WANT TO HAVE 17:18.604 --> 17:22.074 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AS YOU ALLUDED TO SENATOR LEE IS A CHILLING EFFECT OF WHERE 17:22.174 --> 17:25.544 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% POLICE OFFICERS WOULD NOT GO INTO THOSE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS 17:25.644 --> 17:28.213 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHERE WE NEED FOR THEM TO BE TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE 17:28.313 --> 17:29.948 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% COMMUNITIES AND AT THE SAME TIME WE WANT THE CITIZENS TO 17:30.049 --> 17:33.318 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HAVE A VOICE AND THANKS SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND A 17:33.419 --> 17:35.988 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COMPROMISE ON THIS, BUT I THINK IT COMES BACK TO LEADERSHIP AND 17:36.088 --> 17:39.124 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHO IS SERVING AN THE 17:39.224 --> 17:42.628 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% POLICE CHIEF ROLES WHO ARE SERVING AS SHERIFFS ACROSS THE 17:42.728 --> 17:45.798 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COUNTY ARE ACROSS THE STATE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT YOU MENTIONED 17:45.898 --> 17:48.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE GOVERNOR I THINK ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT NEED TO BE 17:48.200 --> 17:49.334 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% INVOLVED IN THIS. 17:49.435 --> 17:51.303 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> ROB HOW IMPORTANT IS IT GOING TO BE DEESCALATION IN THE 17:51.403 --> 17:54.440 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TRAINING - WHEN WE WERE TRAINING YOUNG LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. 17:54.540 --> 17:55.774 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% DEESCALATION IS REALLY IMPORTANT. 17:55.874 --> 17:59.211 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, I MEAN IT'S A IT'S AN INCREDIBLY 17:59.311 --> 18:02.114 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DIFFICULT JOB WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT THE AND THE REALITY IS 18:02.214 --> 18:05.517 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THAT IT WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY WITH EVERYBODY HAVING A PHONE 18:05.617 --> 18:07.019 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% EVERYBODY HAVING A CAMERA PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE TAKEN 18:07.119 --> 18:10.389 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SECOND AND 3RD LOOK JUST LIKE SPORTS WHERE REFEREES DON'T 18:10.489 --> 18:12.791 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WANT TO HAVE SECOND LOOKS AT THEIR CALLS AND GAMES. BUT THE 18:12.891 --> 18:15.194 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REALITY WE'RE NOT GOING GET AWAY FROM THAT SO THERE'S GOING 18:15.294 --> 18:17.162 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% TO HAVE TO BE OVERSIGHT AND YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO 18:17.262 --> 18:19.531 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% TEACH OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, THE REALITY OF 18:19.631 --> 18:23.001 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GETTING ALONG WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT MAKES THEIR OF 18:23.102 --> 18:25.904 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEIR MAKE THEM SAFER MAKES THE COMMUNITY SAFER, IT'S A 18:26.004 --> 18:27.673 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% DIFFICULT TASK TO PULL OFF. 18:27.773 --> 18:29.341 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FOLLOW FOR SURE. 18:29.441 --> 18:30.676 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND 18:30.776 --> 18:33.612 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% USUALLY SIGNIFIES THE START OF THE PEAK SEASON FOR 18:33.712 --> 18:36.682 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TRAVEL AND TOURISM IN NORTH CAROLINA. OUR BEAUTIFUL BEACHES 18:36.782 --> 18:39.852 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS ARE CLARIANT FOR THOSE SEEKING REST 18:39.952 --> 18:43.188 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AND REFUGE. TRAVEL AND TOURISM IN NORTH CAROLINA IS BIG 18:43.288 --> 18:48.260 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BUSINESS. IN 2017 MISTER SPENT NEARLY $24 BILLION THAT $65 18:48.360 --> 18:53.298 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% MILLION A DAY WITH ONE IN 50 RESIDENTS EMPLOYED DIRECTLY BY 18:53.398 --> 18:56.135 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TRAVEL AND TOURISM QUESTION ONE THAT JOHN CLEARLY NORTH 18:56.235 --> 18:59.104 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CAROLINA HAS A SUCCESSFUL RECORD. WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT 18:59.204 --> 19:01.140 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CAN WE IMPROVE WHERE WE HAVE. 19:01.240 --> 19:04.176 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> NATURAL RESOURCES ASSETS THAT WOULD BE HARD TO MESS UP 19:04.276 --> 19:06.445 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THOUGH SOMETIMES THEY CAN'T MESS TO ONE OF THINGS IS 19:06.545 --> 19:08.981 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT AS I LOOKED INTO THE DATA ABOUT 19:09.081 --> 19:11.350 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TRAVEL AND TOURISM OF COURSE NORTH CHINA'S NOT THAT 19:11.450 --> 19:13.585 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DIFFERENT FROM MOST STATES WERE TRAVEL AND TOURISM IS NUMBER 19:13.685 --> 19:16.588 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ONE NUMBER TO ANOTHER 3 BECAUSE OF HOW BROADLY THE CATEGORIES 19:16.688 --> 19:19.224 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TO FIND BUT ONE OF THE THINGS NORTH CAROLINA HISTORICALLY 19:19.324 --> 19:21.660 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% DEAD. AND I THINK IT IN THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS HAS GOTTEN 19:21.760 --> 19:24.730 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% BACK INTO THE HABIT. HE'S FOCUSING ON ROAD ACCESS. 19:24.830 --> 19:27.299 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SOME OF THE TRANSFER SOME OF THE TRAVEL AND TOURISM INDUSTRY 19:27.399 --> 19:30.602 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IS REALLY A DEPENDABLE HOW FAST CAN PEOPLE GET SOMEWHERE AND 19:30.702 --> 19:32.905 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THEY SENT THAT WE'VE BEEN ADDING LANES RECENTLY WOULD 19:33.005 --> 19:35.707 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAVE SOME BYPASSES AROUND SOME THE MAJOR CITIES THAT DOES 19:35.807 --> 19:38.443 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% FACILITATE THE KIND OF TRAVEL AND TOURISM THAT IS 19:38.544 --> 19:41.813 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% PARTICULARLY DEPENDENT UPON AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC. 19:41.914 --> 19:47.152 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> THE TRAVEL AND TOURISM TAX REVENUE MEANS OF $512 SAVINGS 19:47.252 --> 19:50.656 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PER FAMILY IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA CAN WE GO OUT 19:50.756 --> 19:52.758 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE INDUSTRY AND EVEN SAY MORE. 19:52.858 --> 19:55.627 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> OH ABSOLUTELY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE STATE HAVE A 19:55.727 --> 19:59.364 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ROLE IN THIS IN PROMOTING TOURISM ON IF YOU HAVEN'T GO TO 19:59.464 --> 20:02.901 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% VISIT IN SEE WEBSITE. THERE'S UP JUST A WEALTH OF INFORMATION 20:03.001 --> 20:06.872 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ON THERE. OUR TOURISM DOLLARS HAVE INCREASED EVERY YEAR FROM 20:06.972 --> 20:09.775 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ABOUT OWN HAVE PROBABLY AS LONG AS THEY'VE BEEN KEEPING RECORDS 20:09.875 --> 20:12.778 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ASKED THE PROGRAM EVALUATION DIVISION 20:12.878 --> 20:16.481 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TO LOOK AT THAT TO DO A STUDY OF COMMERCE AND THE PRODUCT 20:16.582 --> 20:19.851 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE HAVE AND THE PD REPORT CAME 20:19.952 --> 20:22.854 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BACK WITH A COUPLE INTERESTING THINGS ONE ON 2 WOMEN AT SOME 20:22.955 --> 20:26.491 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE COST AND THE TOURISM OFFICE IS THE 20:26.592 --> 20:29.228 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS WERE DUPLICATED IN MANY CASES, 20:29.328 --> 20:32.397 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% YOU KNOW YOU COULD USE THOSE DOLLARS FOR SOMETHING ELSE AND 20:32.497 --> 20:35.334 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THEN INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THE FARM BILL THIS YEAR THAT IS 20:35.434 --> 20:39.404 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% JUST BEGINNING TO GET SOME ATTENTION IN THE SENATE WOULD 20:39.504 --> 20:44.810 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ADD SPORTING SHOOTING SPORTS ON SPORTS. UNLIKE THANKS VISHING 20:44.910 --> 20:48.513 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HUNTING AS PART OF AGRIBUSINESS AND FOCUSING ON THAT AS WELL 20:48.614 --> 20:50.682 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WHICH I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY IN A 20:50.782 --> 20:53.752 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO DO THOSE KIND OF ACTIVITIES. I CARVE 20:53.852 --> 20:56.421 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TROUT STREAMS WILL COMPETE WITH ANY IN THE COUNTRY WANT TO MAKE 20:56.521 --> 20:57.589 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% USE OF IT. 20:57.689 --> 20:59.925 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> ROB NATURAL RESOURCE, AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR TRAVEL 21:00.025 --> 21:01.026 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% AND TOURISM INDUSTRY. 21:01.126 --> 21:02.794 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE WITHOUT TALKING 21:02.894 --> 21:04.963 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CRISIS THAT OUR STATE IS IN THE MIDST 21:05.063 --> 21:06.932 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OF SUMMER BEACHES ARE GOING TO BE UNDER WATER AND A FEW 21:07.032 --> 21:10.736 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DECADES, I MEAN THIS IS A THIS IS AN EXISTENTIAL CRISIS WE 21:10.836 --> 21:13.805 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FACE ENVIRONMENTALLY IT'S IT'S PREPOSTEROUS TO TALK ABOUT OUR 21:13.905 --> 21:16.074 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BEACHES ARE MOUNTAINS THE DEFORESTATION THAT'S GOING ON 21:16.174 --> 21:18.577 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THERE TALK ABOUT THE POISONING OF OUR WATERS IN THE STATE 21:18.677 --> 21:21.380 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT'S GOING ON WE'VE GOT TO GET A FOCUS ON THAT OR THERE 21:21.480 --> 21:22.881 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ISN'T GOING TO BE A TRAVEL AND TOURISM INDUSTRY.. 21:22.981 --> 21:26.551 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >> SENATOR YOU REALLY - A SECRETARY BACK IN JIM 21:26.652 --> 21:29.554 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HUNT'S FIRST ADMINISTRATION REALLY PUT OUR STATE PARKS ON 21:29.655 --> 21:30.889 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% THE MAP. 21:30.989 --> 21:33.458 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> ABSOLUTELY AND I THINK ONE THING WE CAN BE VERY PROUD OF 21:33.558 --> 21:36.161 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IS THAT WE DO HAVE A GREAT VARIETY OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR 21:36.261 --> 21:39.264 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PEOPLE TO COME AND ENJOY OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA 21:39.364 --> 21:41.800 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TRAVELING HERE THIS MORNING ON INTERSTATE 40 I DIDN'T FEEL WE 21:41.900 --> 21:44.636 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAVE A SHORTAGE OF TOURISM GOES IN THE 5TH IN TRAFFIC WAS 21:44.736 --> 21:47.873 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REALLY A HORRENDOUS BUT I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL. BUT LOOK AT 21:47.973 --> 21:50.776 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ALL OF THE RESOURCES. WE HAVE THAT AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO 21:50.876 --> 21:54.846 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COME AND VISIT AND SEE, BUT I THINK ROB IS CORRECT AS WELL WE 21:54.946 --> 21:59.685 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DO REALLY NEED TO BE VIGILANT. PROTECTING OUR ENVIRONMENT I 21:59.785 --> 22:02.654 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAD THAT PROBLEM WHEN I WAS SECRETARY OF NATURAL RESOURCES 22:02.754 --> 22:05.123 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TRYING TO PROTECT MANY OF THE STREAMS BECAUSE WE WOULD 22:05.223 --> 22:08.393 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% DUMPING POISON INTO THE INTO THE WATERS. I THINK THE STATE 22:08.493 --> 22:11.029 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HAS SHOWN REMARKABLE PROGRESS IN TRYING TO TACKLE THE 22:11.129 --> 22:12.297 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% PROBLEM. 22:12.397 --> 22:15.467 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> AND JUST THIS WEEK WE HAD NEWS REPORTS ABOUT CONCERNS 22:15.567 --> 22:19.338 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ABOUT SOME OF THE FISHERIES IN THE NEUSE RIVER. CLEARLY, 22:19.438 --> 22:22.607 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% 37 MILLION TRAVELERS ON THE ROADS THIS WEEKEND. SO IT'S 22:22.708 --> 22:26.678 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% GOING TO BE A BUSY TRAVEL AND TOURISM WEEKEND FOR SURE WE'RE 22:26.778 --> 22:29.514 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON PEOPLE TO BE SAFE OUT THERE ON THE ROADS. NOW IT'S TIME FOR 22:29.614 --> 22:31.016 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THE SHOW TO FOR OUR PANELISTS 22:31.116 --> 22:33.151 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% TO TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW 22:33.251 --> 22:35.120 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% I'LL START WITH SENATOR LEE. 22:35.220 --> 22:38.256 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> WELL, 50 YEARS AGO, I GOT ELECTED. MAYOR OF CHAPEL HILL 22:38.357 --> 22:42.127 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WHICH WAS A PROUD MOMENT MY LIFE, BUT I'M THE POINT I WANT 22:42.227 --> 22:44.930 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO MAKE IS THAT I WAS INVITED BACK MY ALMA MATER ONE OF THOSE 22:45.030 --> 22:49.000 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CHEAP COLLEGES IN SOUTH GEORGIA. AND THEY HONORED ME 22:49.101 --> 22:52.637 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WITH NAMING ARE OWED HIM OUT ON A AND I'VE NEVER SEEN MY NAME 22:52.738 --> 22:55.574 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON A ROAD SIGN BEFORE. THAT WAS QUITE GRATIFYING.. 22:55.674 --> 22:58.744 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> CONGRATULATIONS. JOHN, TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW.. 22:58.844 --> 23:01.480 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> THE MOST RECENT CIVITAS POLL ASKED A COUPLE OF 23:01.580 --> 23:04.516 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INTERESTING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LONG-RUNNING ROBERT MULLER 23:04.616 --> 23:07.519 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% INVESTIGATION ON THE ONE HAND MOST NORTH CAROLINA VOTERS, 23:07.619 --> 23:12.090 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A PLURALITY AT LEAST. WORD SAYS SHOWED APPROVAL OF ROBERT 23:12.190 --> 23:15.427 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MUELLER'S PERFORMANCE ISN'T ABOUT COUNCIL ROLE, BUT ALSO 23:15.527 --> 23:18.797 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PROUD IN NORTH CAROLINA NORTH CAROLINIANS THINK THAT IT GOT 23:18.897 --> 23:21.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TOO MUCH ATTENTION THAT THE ISSUE HAS GOTTEN TOO MUCH NEWS 23:21.233 --> 23:23.935 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MEDIA COVERAGE OF LAST 2 YEARS. THAT'S INTERESTING 23:24.035 --> 23:27.773 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% JUXTAPOSITION OF OF BELIEFS, BUT I THINK NOT NECESSARILY 23:27.873 --> 23:28.940 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% INCONSISTENT. 23:29.040 --> 23:30.609 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> ROB TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 23:30.709 --> 23:32.110 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> IT'S MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND. 23:32.210 --> 23:34.946 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% 10'S OF THOUSANDS OF OF NORTH CAROLINA VETERANS 23:35.046 --> 23:37.849 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% DESPITE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BENEFITS FOR MOST VETERANS, 23:37.949 --> 23:40.619 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUT 10'S OF THOUSANDS ARE STILL IN THE COVERAGE GAP IF WE WOULD 23:40.719 --> 23:43.555 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% EXPAND MEDICAID COVERAGE IN THE STATE HAS BEEN DONE IN 30 PLUS 23:43.655 --> 23:46.291 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% STATES AROUND THE COUNTRY THEY AND THEIR FAMILIES COULD GET 23:46.391 --> 23:49.060 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HEALTH CARE AND THEY HAD MUCH BETTER RESULTS FOR VETERANS IN 23:49.161 --> 23:50.662 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THESE OTHER STATES WHERE THEY'VE TAKEN THAT STEP IT'S 23:50.762 --> 23:52.597 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% SOMETHING WE OUGHT TO DO IN NORTH CAROLINA. 23:52.697 --> 23:53.665 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% >> BECKI? 23:53.765 --> 23:55.901 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> A BILL MOVING THROUGH THE SENATE THIS WEEK IS 23:56.001 --> 24:01.039 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2019 WHEN REPUBLICANS TOOK 24:01.139 --> 24:04.176 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OVER THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN 2011 SENATOR BERGER INTRODUCED 24:04.276 --> 24:07.446 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THE REGULATORY REFORM ACT OF 2011 AND SAID THERE WOULD BE 24:07.546 --> 24:11.383 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ONE EVERY SINGLE YEAR UNTIL REGULATIONS WERE OFF THE BACKS 24:11.483 --> 24:14.719 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF GOVERNMENT AND OUR GOVERNMENT WAS OFF THE BACKS OF 24:14.820 --> 24:17.222 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE ACROSS NORTH CAROLINA HE'S MADE GOOD 24:17.322 --> 24:21.092 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON THAT AND THIS LATEST BILL CAME UP REGULATIONS HAVE A COST 24:21.193 --> 24:23.595 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AND GETTING RID OF THEM AND LOOSENING THOSE IS 24:23.695 --> 24:24.830 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% THE THING TO DO. 24:24.930 --> 24:27.632 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. 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