1 00:00:03,470 --> 00:00:06,439 >> THIS IS AN NC SPIN AND UNREHEARSED DISCUSSION 2 00:00:06,539 --> 00:00:09,142 ON ISSUES OF INTEREST TO NORTH CAROLINIANS. 3 00:00:09,242 --> 00:00:11,911 NOW HERE IS YOUR MODERATOR TOM CAMPBELL. 4 00:00:13,346 --> 00:00:15,081 >> IT'S BEEN ANOTHER INTERESTING WEEK IN THE 5 00:00:15,181 --> 00:00:16,182 TAR HEEL STATE. 6 00:00:16,282 --> 00:00:18,385 WE OBSERVED THE MARTIN LUTHER KING HOLIDAY, HAD 7 00:00:18,485 --> 00:00:21,087 PARADES AND DEMONSTRATIONS IN FREEZING COLD 8 00:00:21,187 --> 00:00:23,957 TEMPERATURES, STAYED UP LATE FOR THE BLOOD MOON 9 00:00:24,057 --> 00:00:27,327 ECLIPSE AND SAW HEATED ARGUMENTS BETWEEN 10 00:00:27,427 --> 00:00:29,963 REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS OVER THE 9TH CONGRESSIONAL 11 00:00:30,063 --> 00:00:31,898 ELECTION OUTCOME. 12 00:00:31,998 --> 00:00:34,834 THE PACE PICKED UP ON JONES STREET AS WE READY 13 00:00:34,934 --> 00:00:37,037 FOR THE NEW LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT BEGINS NEXT 14 00:00:37,137 --> 00:00:39,939 WEDNESDAY, AND WE WANT OUR PANEL TO COMMENT ON WHAT 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,074 WE CAN EXPECT. 16 00:00:41,174 --> 00:00:44,177 PLUS WE ASK OUR ANALYSTS TO TELL US SOMETHING WE 17 00:00:44,277 --> 00:00:45,612 DON'T KNOW. 18 00:00:46,279 --> 00:00:48,048 WE'VE GOT A GREAT PANEL FOR YOU THIS WEEK. 19 00:00:48,148 --> 00:00:51,718 THEY INCLUDE: BECKI GRAY, FROM THE JOHN LOCKE FOUNDATION 20 00:00:51,818 --> 00:00:55,121 JOHN HOOD, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST AND AUTHOR 21 00:00:55,221 --> 00:00:58,024 CHRIS FITZSIMON, DIRECTOR OF THE NEWSROOM 22 00:00:58,124 --> 00:01:01,194 AND ROB SCHOFIELD, OF NC POLICY WATCH. 23 00:01:01,294 --> 00:01:03,963 WE BEGIN OUR UNINTERRUPTED DEBATE AFTER THESE BRIEF 24 00:01:04,064 --> 00:01:05,632 MESSAGES FROM OUR UNDERWRITERS. 25 00:01:08,535 --> 00:01:12,472 >> THEY ARE UP BEFORE DAWN, AND WORK LATE INTO THE NIGHT. 26 00:01:13,039 --> 00:01:15,408 >> THEY BELIEVE IN HARD WORK, FAMILY, 27 00:01:15,508 --> 00:01:18,378 AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. 28 00:01:18,478 --> 00:01:20,647 THEY STAND UP FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES 29 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:23,349 WHEN OTHERS WALK AWAY. 30 00:01:23,450 --> 00:01:26,553 THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT A FAIR SHAKE. 31 00:01:26,653 --> 00:01:28,655 THEY ARE FARMERS. 32 00:01:29,756 --> 00:01:31,424 AT NORTH CAROLINA FARM BUREAU. 33 00:01:31,524 --> 00:01:34,828 WE ARE PROUD TO STAND WITH OUR FARMERS. 34 00:01:36,496 --> 00:01:38,631 >> TODAY'S TOOLS MAKE YOUR REAL DIYER, 35 00:01:38,731 --> 00:01:40,633 AND AS A MEMBER OF AN ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE 36 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:43,870 YOU HAVE LOTS OF VALUABLE TOOLS TO HELP YOU DO IT YOURSELF 37 00:01:43,970 --> 00:01:46,439 IN CONTROLLING YOUR HOME ENERGY USE AND BUDGET 38 00:01:46,539 --> 00:01:49,209 LEAVING YOU FREE TO BE DAD. 39 00:01:51,244 --> 00:01:53,913 >> 12,000 NORTH CAROLINA VETERANS ARE UNINSURED 40 00:01:54,013 --> 00:01:55,982 WITH NO OPTIONS TO BUY HEALTH INSURANCE. 41 00:01:56,082 --> 00:01:58,451 THEY FOUGHT FOR US, NOW LET'S FIGHT FOR THEM. 42 00:01:58,551 --> 00:02:00,320 LET'S CREATE A NORTH CAROLINA SOLUTION 43 00:02:00,420 --> 00:02:02,122 FOR COVERING THE UNINSURED. 44 00:02:02,222 --> 00:02:05,391 TO LEARN MORE, VISIT: 45 00:02:06,826 --> 00:02:10,697 >> PRODUCTION UNDERWRITING PROVIDED BY: 46 00:02:11,397 --> 00:02:15,301 FAMILY PHYSICIANS, YOUR TRUSTED HEALTHCARE ADVISOR FOR LIFE. 47 00:02:17,103 --> 00:02:18,271 LET'S GET STARTED. 48 00:02:18,371 --> 00:02:19,606 IT WAS A MADE FOR TV MOMENT. 49 00:02:19,706 --> 00:02:22,842 DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS FACING OFF IN COURT OVER THE 9TH 50 00:02:22,942 --> 00:02:24,944 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT ELECTION. 51 00:02:25,044 --> 00:02:27,647 REPUBLICANS CLAIMED THAT CERTIFYING MARK HARRIS AS 52 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:29,816 WINNER HAD TAKEN FAR LONGER THAN WAS PRESCRIBED 53 00:02:29,916 --> 00:02:31,451 BY LAW. 54 00:02:31,551 --> 00:02:34,220 DEMOCRATS SAID THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS WAS CORRECT 55 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:39,626 IN NOT CERTIFYING A WINNER BECAUSE OF CLEAR EVIDENCE 56 00:02:39,726 --> 00:02:41,728 OF VOTING IRREGULARITIES AND FRAUD. 57 00:02:42,695 --> 00:02:44,330 ROB, JUDGE PAUL RIDGEWAY HEARD THE 58 00:02:44,430 --> 00:02:47,734 CASE AND RULED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY IN DENYING 59 00:02:47,834 --> 00:02:51,004 MARK HARRIS BE CERTIFIED AS THE WINNER. 60 00:02:51,104 --> 00:02:53,773 WERE YOU SURPRISED HE RULED SO QUICKLY? 61 00:02:53,873 --> 00:02:55,041 >> NO ACTUALLY IT WASN'T. 62 00:02:55,141 --> 00:02:57,277 AND I THINK WHEN HE TOOK A LOOK AT SIX HUNDRED 63 00:02:57,377 --> 00:02:58,912 AND TWENTY EIGHT PAGES THAT HAVE BEEN FILED WITH HIM 64 00:02:59,012 --> 00:03:00,413 BY MARK HARRIS I THINK I'M SURPRISED 65 00:03:00,513 --> 00:03:02,448 HE DIDN'T JUST DISMISS THE CASE THAT AT THAT POINT 66 00:03:02,549 --> 00:03:04,717 BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO READ 628 PAGES. 67 00:03:04,817 --> 00:03:07,187 BUT SERIOUSLY THIS WAS A THIS WAS A HAIL MARY. 68 00:03:07,287 --> 00:03:09,589 BY MARK HARRIS IT WAS A FOURTH IN 20 YARDS TO GO 69 00:03:09,689 --> 00:03:12,358 AND I DON'T THINK HE OR OR DALLAS WOODHOUSE OR TOM BRADY 70 00:03:12,458 --> 00:03:14,160 I DON'T THINK THEY HAD A SHOT HERE. 71 00:03:15,461 --> 00:03:17,197 >> GO WORK THE SUPER BOWL. 72 00:03:17,897 --> 00:03:20,066 >> IT WAS A BIG LONG SHOT. 73 00:03:20,166 --> 00:03:22,068 I MEAN I DON'T THINK ANYBODY EXPECTED TO RULE 74 00:03:22,168 --> 00:03:23,870 IT MAYBE YOU KNOW MAYBE HE WOULD HAVE TAKEN A DAY 75 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:25,305 I SUPPOSE YOU MIGHT HAVE EXPECTED IT 76 00:03:25,405 --> 00:03:28,508 BUT HE KNEW THE JUDGE KNEW THAT THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 77 00:03:28,608 --> 00:03:31,177 IS COMING TOGETHER IN THE COMING DAYS, IN A FEW DAYS IT WAS 78 00:03:31,277 --> 00:03:33,313 GOING TO BE DECIDED BY THEN WHY WOULDN'T HE HAND IT OFF. 79 00:03:33,413 --> 00:03:34,647 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY ACTION. 80 00:03:34,747 --> 00:03:35,982 >> YOU CAN UNDERSTAND MARK HARRIS 81 00:03:36,082 --> 00:03:37,750 BEING ANXIOUS TO GO IN AND GET THIS THING BEHIND HIM. 82 00:03:37,850 --> 00:03:39,419 SO WHERE ARE WE RIGHT NOW BECKI. 83 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:41,988 >> WELL WE'RE SORT OF WAITING WE'RE IN A WAITING PATTERN. 84 00:03:42,088 --> 00:03:45,291 THE LAW THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED IN DECEMBER 85 00:03:45,391 --> 00:03:47,060 SETS UP THE NEW STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 86 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,395 TO TAKE OVER ON JANUARY 30 FIRST. 87 00:03:49,495 --> 00:03:52,332 WHAT WE EXPECT IS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY 88 00:03:52,432 --> 00:03:54,067 WE SHOULD HAVE THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 89 00:03:54,167 --> 00:03:57,737 IN PLACE LOOKING AT THIS. IN THE MEANTIME THE EMPLOYEES 90 00:03:57,837 --> 00:03:59,339 AND THE STAFF AT THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 91 00:03:59,439 --> 00:04:02,075 HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF THIS INVESTIGATIVE DOCUMENTS 92 00:04:02,175 --> 00:04:03,409 AND CATALOGING THINGS 93 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:06,145 AND YOU KNOW IT'S LIKE IT'S NOT LIKE NOTHING HAS BEEN HAPPENING 94 00:04:06,246 --> 00:04:07,680 BUT WE CAN'T TAKE ACTION ON IT 95 00:04:07,780 --> 00:04:09,682 UNTIL THIS NEW BOARD OF ELECTIONS IS SEATED. 96 00:04:09,782 --> 00:04:11,117 >> ON THE OTHER HAND THE REPUBLICANS 97 00:04:11,217 --> 00:04:14,420 HAVE NOW NOMINATED PEOPLE THAT IT APPEARS VIOLATE THE LAW 98 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,022 THAT'S GOING TO GIVE ALLOW THEM TO BE HEARD. 99 00:04:16,122 --> 00:04:17,890 >> SO THAT THROWS A WHOLE NOTHER WRENCH INTO IT 100 00:04:17,991 --> 00:04:19,325 AND IT'S SORT OF THE LATEST EXAMPLE. 101 00:04:19,425 --> 00:04:21,894 IT'S JUST IT'S INFURIATING THAT WE KEEP PLAYING POLITICS 102 00:04:21,995 --> 00:04:24,297 WITH THIS BOARD AND NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW. 103 00:04:24,397 --> 00:04:25,565 >> I WANT TO GET TO THAT IN A SECOND. 104 00:04:25,665 --> 00:04:28,268 BUT FOLLOWING UP ON THE POINT THAT BECKI MADE. 105 00:04:28,368 --> 00:04:30,403 SO WE'VE GOT THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 106 00:04:30,503 --> 00:04:32,672 DOING THEIR INVESTIGATIONS AND AT THE SAME TIME 107 00:04:32,772 --> 00:04:34,107 WAKE COUNTY D.A. 108 00:04:34,207 --> 00:04:38,278 LAUREN FREEMAN HERSELF IS INVESTIGATING ALL THIS. 109 00:04:38,378 --> 00:04:41,114 ARE THESE TWO WORKING TOGETHER OR ARE THEY SEPARATE. 110 00:04:41,214 --> 00:04:42,715 WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF HAVING BOTH OF THEM. 111 00:04:42,815 --> 00:04:44,517 >> WELL THEY'RE SEPARATE MATTERS, 112 00:04:44,617 --> 00:04:46,786 ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WHAT THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 113 00:04:46,886 --> 00:04:49,756 IS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS SHOULD THEY CERTIFY 114 00:04:49,856 --> 00:04:51,858 OR SHOULD THEY NOT CERTIFY SPECIFY 115 00:04:51,958 --> 00:04:53,793 SPECIFYING THE REASONS WHY. 116 00:04:53,893 --> 00:04:55,695 THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY THE D.A. JOB THE D.A. 117 00:04:55,795 --> 00:04:57,930 IS JOBS DETERMINE WHETHER CRIMES HAVE BEEN COMMITTED 118 00:04:58,031 --> 00:04:59,899 AND GO AFTER CRIMINALS WHICH IS A DIFFERENT MATTER. 119 00:04:59,999 --> 00:05:02,969 YOU COULD CERTIFY AND ALSO GO AFTER PEOPLE 120 00:05:03,069 --> 00:05:04,270 WHO'VE MISHANDLED BALLOTS 121 00:05:04,370 --> 00:05:06,172 ARGUING THAT THERE AREN'T ENOUGH MISHANDLED BALLOTS 122 00:05:06,272 --> 00:05:07,774 TO TURN THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION 123 00:05:07,874 --> 00:05:09,042 OR COULD GO THE OTHER WAY. 124 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:11,311 YOU COULD END UP THROWING IT OUT BUT THEY'RE NOT HAVE ENOUGH 125 00:05:11,411 --> 00:05:13,046 EVIDENCE TO FILE CRIMINAL CHARGES. 126 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:14,814 >> TALKING ABOUT CRIMINAL CHARGES 127 00:05:14,914 --> 00:05:17,717 ONE OF THE PERSONS OF INTEREST IN ALL OF THIS IS A FELLOW MAN 128 00:05:17,817 --> 00:05:19,752 IN BLATANT COUNTY NAMED MCCRAY DALLAS 129 00:05:21,220 --> 00:05:23,022 WHO IS BEEN CERTIFIED 130 00:05:23,122 --> 00:05:25,825 AS A PERSON OF INTEREST WHATEVER THAT MAY MEAN LEGALLY. 131 00:05:25,925 --> 00:05:27,260 >> THE STATEMENT OF THE YEAR. 132 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,862 >> HOWEVER HE'S REFUSED TO BE INTERVIEWED HERE. 133 00:05:29,962 --> 00:05:31,197 CAN THEY SUBPOENA HIM? 134 00:05:31,297 --> 00:05:34,233 >> OF COURSE THEY CAN SUBPOENA HIM AND LAUREN FREEMAN 135 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:36,102 CAN SUBPOENA HIM AND LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS 136 00:05:36,202 --> 00:05:38,671 CAN INTERVIEW HIM, MCCRAY DALLAS WILL TALK AT SOME POINT. 137 00:05:38,771 --> 00:05:40,573 IT IS INTERESTING THAT WE CAN NEVER HAVE SOMEBODY INVOLVED 138 00:05:40,673 --> 00:05:42,709 IN THESE THINGS IT HAS A NAME LIKE JIM SMITH. 139 00:05:42,809 --> 00:05:44,010 >> I KNOW. 140 00:05:44,110 --> 00:05:46,612 >> MCCRAY DALLAS ALONE OUGHT TO BE A REASON TO INVESTIGATE. 141 00:05:46,713 --> 00:05:48,881 >> WELL SPEAKING OF NAMES WE'VE GOT JOSH MALCOLM 142 00:05:48,981 --> 00:05:51,584 WHO WAS THE FORMER CHAIR OF THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 143 00:05:51,684 --> 00:05:53,820 WHO SAYS HE'S NOT GOING TO SERVE 144 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,222 AT ALL NOT AS CHAIR NOT AS A MEMBER. 145 00:05:56,322 --> 00:05:59,659 RIGHT NOW REPUBLICANS ACCUSE HIM OF BEING TOO COZY 146 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:02,628 WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE DOWN THERE IN BLADEN COUNTY. 147 00:06:02,729 --> 00:06:04,530 >> I THINK HE HAD SOME SPECIAL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT GOES ON 148 00:06:04,630 --> 00:06:05,765 IN BLADEN COUNTY 149 00:06:05,865 --> 00:06:07,200 WAS ONE OF THE REASONS HE WAS VERY CONCERNED 150 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:10,603 ABOUT THE THESE TERRIBLE RESULTS THAT WERE GOING ON DOWN THERE 151 00:06:10,703 --> 00:06:12,105 WITH THAT WITH THE VOTE TAMPERING. 152 00:06:12,205 --> 00:06:14,140 I MEAN DON'T YOU THINK THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT 153 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,377 EVEN IF WE SOMEHOW MIRACULOUSLY THAT THE BOARD CERTIFIED IT 154 00:06:17,477 --> 00:06:19,612 WHICH I THINK IS A REMARKABLE LONGSHOT 155 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:21,981 STILL CONGRESS HAS TO SEAT THIS PERSON. 156 00:06:22,081 --> 00:06:23,750 I FIND IT HARD TO IMAGINE 157 00:06:23,850 --> 00:06:26,486 UNLESS THERE'S JUST SOME REMARKABLE TURN OF EVENTS 158 00:06:26,586 --> 00:06:28,020 AND WE GET A TOTALLY CLEAN SLATE 159 00:06:28,121 --> 00:06:30,056 THAT THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE UNITED STATES HOUSE 160 00:06:30,156 --> 00:06:31,624 ARE GOING TO SAY OK COME ON MARK. 161 00:06:31,724 --> 00:06:34,360 WE'LL SEE. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU KNOW VERY LONG SHOT. 162 00:06:34,460 --> 00:06:37,630 >> I USED TO THINK THAT ROB, BUT WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING 163 00:06:37,730 --> 00:06:38,898 FROM FOLKS LATELY ABOUT 164 00:06:38,998 --> 00:06:41,801 IS THERE ARE SOME DEMOCRAT STENY HOYER WAS VERY EXPLICIT. 165 00:06:41,901 --> 00:06:44,103 HE SAID YOU KNOW FORGET IT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THEM. 166 00:06:44,203 --> 00:06:45,738 BUT OTHER DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS 167 00:06:45,838 --> 00:06:48,007 BOTH ARE A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT THE PRECEDENT. 168 00:06:48,107 --> 00:06:49,342 AGAIN THIS IS A QUESTION -- 169 00:06:49,442 --> 00:06:50,643 >> OF INTERFERING WITH STATE ELECTIONS 170 00:06:50,743 --> 00:06:52,845 >> IF YOU HAD A CLEAR SENSE THAT THERE WERE ENOUGH BALLOTS 171 00:06:52,945 --> 00:06:54,280 IT COULD HAVE BEEN CAST ILLEGALLY 172 00:06:54,380 --> 00:06:55,815 OR THROWN AWAY HAD ENOUGH EVIDENCE 173 00:06:55,915 --> 00:06:57,450 THAT IT WOULD TURN THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION. 174 00:06:57,550 --> 00:06:59,252 THAT'S ONE THING. BUT IF THEY END UP SAYING 175 00:06:59,352 --> 00:07:01,254 WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE ABOUT THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE 176 00:07:01,354 --> 00:07:03,022 WE'RE GOING TO REFUSE TO SEAT HIM ANYWAY 177 00:07:03,122 --> 00:07:04,223 EVEN THOUGH THE STATE CORE 178 00:07:04,323 --> 00:07:06,292 EVEN THOUGH THE STATE HAS CERTIFIED HIM 179 00:07:06,392 --> 00:07:08,795 THERE ARE SOME MEMBER INCUMBENT MEMBERS OF THE U.S. HOUSE 180 00:07:08,895 --> 00:07:10,730 IN BOTH PARTIES WHO MIGHT BE NERVOUS ABOUT THAT. 181 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:13,065 >> OK. SO BECKI WE'VE GOT A NEW STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 182 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:17,036 WHICH IS DUE TO BE SEATED JANUARY 30 FIRST NEXT. 183 00:07:17,136 --> 00:07:18,805 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THREE MEMBERS 184 00:07:18,905 --> 00:07:21,174 OF THE GOVERNOR'S PARTY MEETING THREE DEMOCRATS 185 00:07:21,274 --> 00:07:23,042 TWO MEMBERS OF THE OPPOSITION PARTY 186 00:07:23,142 --> 00:07:25,845 MEANING TWO REPUBLICANS SO FAR AS IT GOES. 187 00:07:26,746 --> 00:07:27,880 CHRIS RAISED THE POINT 188 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:30,249 ABOUT THIS WHETHER THEY'RE ELIGIBLE OR NOT. 189 00:07:30,349 --> 00:07:32,952 >> AND IN READING THE LAW IT SAYS 190 00:07:33,052 --> 00:07:36,489 THAT THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ELECTIONEERING 191 00:07:36,589 --> 00:07:38,724 WITHIN THE PAST 48 MONTHS. 192 00:07:38,825 --> 00:07:40,793 >> WHAT DOES ELECTIONEERING MEAN? 193 00:07:40,893 --> 00:07:42,695 >> THAT MEANS THAT YOU'VE WORKED TO GET PEOPLE ELECTED 194 00:07:42,795 --> 00:07:44,197 AND SO WHAT I THINK THEY WANT IS PEOPLE 195 00:07:44,297 --> 00:07:48,568 WHO HAVE NOT ACTIVELY WORKED IT THROUGH THE ELECTION PROCESS 196 00:07:48,668 --> 00:07:51,037 TO GET PEOPLE ELECTED BUT TOM HERE'S A SUGGESTION. 197 00:07:51,137 --> 00:07:52,538 SO THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE FIVE PEOPLE. 198 00:07:52,638 --> 00:07:55,107 THEY'RE HAVING A REALLY HARD TIME FINDING QUALIFIED PEOPLE 199 00:07:55,208 --> 00:07:56,843 AS CHRIS POINTED OUT. 200 00:07:56,943 --> 00:07:58,778 YOU KNOW REPUBLICANS HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE DEMOCRATS. 201 00:07:58,878 --> 00:08:00,213 DEMOCRATS HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE REPUBLICANS 202 00:08:00,313 --> 00:08:01,647 THEY'VE GOT A FIVE MEMBER BOARD 203 00:08:01,747 --> 00:08:03,316 THERE'S FIVE OF US SITTING AROUND THIS TABLE. 204 00:08:03,416 --> 00:08:04,550 >> BRING IT OVER HERE. 205 00:08:04,650 --> 00:08:06,953 WE'LL GET MORE STRAIGHTENED OUT BEFORE WE HEAD OVER. 206 00:08:07,053 --> 00:08:10,690 WE HAVE SOLVED ONE OF THE STATE'S NAGGING PROBLEMS. 207 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:13,092 >> AND NONE OF US HAS ENGAGED IN ELECTIONEERING 208 00:08:13,192 --> 00:08:16,429 IN THE LAST 48 HOURS. >> 48 HOURS! 209 00:08:16,529 --> 00:08:17,597 [LAUGHTER] 210 00:08:17,697 --> 00:08:18,831 >> ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S LOOK AT HIM. 211 00:08:18,931 --> 00:08:21,734 >> OK. THE REPUBLICANS HAVE NAMED FRANCIS DELUCA 212 00:08:21,834 --> 00:08:26,072 FORMER HEAD OF CIVITAS STACY EGGERS. 213 00:08:26,172 --> 00:08:28,541 WHO WAS A BOONE ATTORNEY AND A FORMER MEMBER 214 00:08:28,641 --> 00:08:31,811 OF THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS BUCK NEWTON FROM WILSON 215 00:08:32,411 --> 00:08:35,214 WHO IS A FORMER SENATOR RAN FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL. 216 00:08:35,314 --> 00:08:36,449 AND EDDIE WOODHOUSE 217 00:08:36,549 --> 00:08:39,018 WHO'S A FORMER WHITE COUNTY BOARD OF ELECTIONS MEMBER 218 00:08:39,118 --> 00:08:42,255 BUT RAN FOR CITY COUNCIL IN IN 2015. 219 00:08:42,355 --> 00:08:45,925 DEMOCRATS SAY NONE OF THEM ARE QUALIFIED. 220 00:08:46,025 --> 00:08:46,893 [ALL TALKING] 221 00:08:46,993 --> 00:08:49,228 >> EGGERS IS QUALIFIED. 222 00:08:49,328 --> 00:08:51,964 >> WOODHOUSE WAS A CANDIDATE, BUCK WAS A CANDIDATE 223 00:08:52,064 --> 00:08:53,933 AND WORKED ON A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT EFFORT. 224 00:08:54,467 --> 00:08:57,203 FRANCIS OF COURSE THERE'S A C4 THAT CIVITAS HAS. 225 00:08:57,303 --> 00:09:00,139 THAT DOES SOME SOME WORK IN ELECTION CYCLES. 226 00:09:00,239 --> 00:09:01,374 SO THAT'S THE ARGUMENT. 227 00:09:01,474 --> 00:09:03,342 >> SO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. ARE THEY RIGHT? 228 00:09:03,442 --> 00:09:05,044 >> I THINK THEY ARE RIGHT AND I THINK IT WOULD DO THEM 229 00:09:05,144 --> 00:09:06,445 WELL TO COME UP WITH SOME DIFFERENT NAMES. 230 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:08,514 MY GOODNESS. ALL JOKING ASIDE 231 00:09:08,614 --> 00:09:11,017 THERE ARE PLENTY OF QUALIFIED PEOPLE WHO COULD BE FORTH 232 00:09:11,117 --> 00:09:13,653 AND WE NEED TO POINT OUT THAT ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE IN ADDITION 233 00:09:13,753 --> 00:09:15,187 TO HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN ELECTIONEERING 234 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:16,556 ARE EXTREME PARTISANS. 235 00:09:16,656 --> 00:09:19,825 THEY ARE NOT JUST RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY 236 00:09:19,926 --> 00:09:22,595 THEY ARE ALL VERY DEDICATED POLITICAL POLITICIANS 237 00:09:22,695 --> 00:09:23,863 IF YOU WILL 238 00:09:23,963 --> 00:09:25,631 AND THAT WELL THAT'S NOT WHO WE NEED TO HAVE ON THEM. 239 00:09:25,731 --> 00:09:27,533 >> DON'T FORGET TOO, REPUBLICANS HAVE SOME COMPLAINTS 240 00:09:27,633 --> 00:09:28,734 WITH SOME OF THE IDEAS 241 00:09:28,834 --> 00:09:31,137 THAT HAVE BEEN GOING TO RUMINATED OR MENTIONED 242 00:09:31,237 --> 00:09:33,673 BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SO, THIS IS NOT EASY. 243 00:09:33,773 --> 00:09:36,976 THIS IS THIS IS ONE OF THOSE HIGHLY PARTISAN THINGS. 244 00:09:37,076 --> 00:09:38,544 >> THE LAW SAYS YOU CAN'T BE INVOLVED IN ELECTIONEERING. 245 00:09:38,644 --> 00:09:40,646 HALF THE PEOPLE OR MORE THAT YOU KNOW 246 00:09:40,746 --> 00:09:41,914 HAVE BEEN IN ELECTIONEERING. 247 00:09:42,014 --> 00:09:43,816 >> AND AS ROB SAID THERE'S PLENTY OF OTHER PEOPLE OUT THERE 248 00:09:43,916 --> 00:09:45,151 SO I EXPECT REPUBLICAN NAMES. 249 00:09:45,251 --> 00:09:46,819 >> THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE 250 00:09:46,919 --> 00:09:49,121 ANY QUALMS ABOUT THE SPECIFIC PEOPLE 251 00:09:49,221 --> 00:09:53,192 THAT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NAMED SO MUCH AS THEY DO SAYING 252 00:09:53,292 --> 00:09:55,895 THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EFFORT BY GOVERNOR COOPER 253 00:09:55,995 --> 00:09:58,030 TRYING TO STACK THE ELECTION PROCESS. 254 00:09:58,130 --> 00:09:59,832 >> THEY DID HAVE SPECIFIC CONCERNS. 255 00:09:59,932 --> 00:10:01,334 I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. WHO? 256 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:02,602 >> BUT AGAIN I WOULD SAY THAT THE -- 257 00:10:02,702 --> 00:10:05,838 I SUSPECT THAT THAT RULE THEY SIMPLY WEREN'T AWARE OF IT 258 00:10:05,938 --> 00:10:08,307 OR MAYBE WEREN'T AWARE OF THE TIME FRAME INVOLVED. 259 00:10:08,407 --> 00:10:09,709 THEY HAVE AN ARGUMENT AGAINST IT 260 00:10:09,809 --> 00:10:11,877 BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE SMARTER FOR THEM TO JUST GO AHEAD 261 00:10:11,978 --> 00:10:13,279 AND COME UP WITH SOME DIFFERENT IDEAS. 262 00:10:13,379 --> 00:10:15,281 >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S PLAY WHAT IF. 263 00:10:15,381 --> 00:10:18,618 OK WE GET THIS NEW BOARD IN PLACE, 264 00:10:18,718 --> 00:10:20,620 ASSUMING ALL FIVE OF US ARE WILLING TO SERVE 265 00:10:21,454 --> 00:10:24,156 AND ARE WILLING TO BE SWORN IN INSTEAD OF SWORN AT. 266 00:10:24,256 --> 00:10:28,194 WHICH WOULD BE SORT OF UNUSUAL. WE GET THIS NEW BOARD IN PLACE. 267 00:10:29,428 --> 00:10:31,397 THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE 268 00:10:31,497 --> 00:10:32,965 THAT WAS ACCUMULATED 269 00:10:33,065 --> 00:10:35,968 BY THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS INVESTIGATORS 270 00:10:36,569 --> 00:10:40,206 AS WELL AS INTERVIEWS THAT THEY DO IN PERSON. 271 00:10:41,874 --> 00:10:43,676 HOW LONG IS THIS PROCESS GOING TO TAKE BECKI? 272 00:10:43,776 --> 00:10:45,444 >> HOPEFULLY NOT TOO LONG. I MEAN AS I MENTIONED 273 00:10:45,544 --> 00:10:47,680 EARLIER THE STAFF AT THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 274 00:10:47,780 --> 00:10:50,149 UNDER KIM STRIKE'S DIRECTION HAS BEEN DOING THIS 275 00:10:50,249 --> 00:10:51,617 AND PUTTING THESE THINGS IN ORDER 276 00:10:51,717 --> 00:10:53,853 THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO START AT SQUARE ONE 277 00:10:53,953 --> 00:10:55,187 WHEN THEY ARE SWORN IN. 278 00:10:55,287 --> 00:10:57,089 >> BUT THE TERM EXPIRES IN MARCH. DOESN'T IT. 279 00:10:57,189 --> 00:11:00,459 >> WELL THEY THIS BOARD ALLEGEDLY HOPEFULLY WILL GO INTO 280 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,829 PLACE AT THE END OF JANUARY BEGIN THEIR WORK IMMEDIATELY 281 00:11:03,929 --> 00:11:05,364 AND START TO REVIEW THINGS 282 00:11:05,464 --> 00:11:07,466 AND I'M SURE THEY'LL ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION 283 00:11:07,566 --> 00:11:09,602 BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL MOVE ALONG PRETTY QUICKLY. 284 00:11:09,702 --> 00:11:11,971 >> THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS A GUBERNATORIAL APPOINTMENT? 285 00:11:12,071 --> 00:11:13,205 IS THAT CORRECT? 286 00:11:13,305 --> 00:11:14,507 >> YOU KNOW HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW. 287 00:11:14,607 --> 00:11:18,077 >> I THINK THAT'S THE CASE WHETHER IF IT IS 288 00:11:18,644 --> 00:11:22,048 IF IT IS DE FACTO OR DE JURE A THAT IS ESSENTIALLY CORRECT. 289 00:11:22,148 --> 00:11:25,985 >> OK. SO SO LET'S ASSUME WE GET OUT OF THIS FIVE MEMBER BOARD 290 00:11:26,085 --> 00:11:28,754 LET'S ASSUME WE GET A A VERDICT SO FAR 291 00:11:28,854 --> 00:11:31,824 AS WHETHER TO CERTIFY OR HOLD A NEW ELECTION. 292 00:11:32,358 --> 00:11:35,294 COULD THAT DECISION BE CHALLENGED IN COURT? 293 00:11:35,394 --> 00:11:36,529 >> SURE. MARK HARRIS COULD - 294 00:11:36,629 --> 00:11:38,864 I MEAN THAT'S WHAT JUDGE RIDGEWAY SAID, RIGHT? 295 00:11:38,964 --> 00:11:41,233 IT WOULD BE A QUESTION WHETHER HE WANTS TO TAKE THAT STEP. 296 00:11:41,333 --> 00:11:43,202 I THINK WHAT JUDGE RIDGWAY SAID IS YOU KNOW 297 00:11:43,302 --> 00:11:45,237 THAT'S WHEN YOU GO TO COURT AT THAT POINT. 298 00:11:46,305 --> 00:11:48,541 >> IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS ELECTION WHAT DO YOU THINK 299 00:11:48,641 --> 00:11:51,143 IT COULD BE THIS FALL. 300 00:11:51,243 --> 00:11:52,912 >> YOU'D HOPE SOONER THAN THAT. YOU'D HOPE FOR THE SPRING. 301 00:11:53,012 --> 00:11:55,514 >> IF YOU COULD HAVE A PRIMARY IN THE SPRING OR LATE SPRING 302 00:11:55,614 --> 00:11:57,216 AND HAVING A GENERAL ELECTION AFTER THAT -- 303 00:11:57,316 --> 00:11:58,517 IT'S ALSO WORTH POINTING OUT THE REASON 304 00:11:58,617 --> 00:12:00,052 WE HAVE SUCH A CONFUSING BOARD OF ELECTIONS 305 00:12:00,152 --> 00:12:03,322 IS THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS TRIED 150 TIMES 306 00:12:03,422 --> 00:12:05,357 NOT MUCH AN EXAGGERATION TO RECONSTITUTE IT 307 00:12:05,458 --> 00:12:06,959 IF THEY HADN'T TINKERED AROUND WITH THIS 308 00:12:07,059 --> 00:12:08,694 WE WOULD HAVE A SITTING BOARD WHICH HAVE ALREADY HEARD IT 309 00:12:08,794 --> 00:12:09,528 AND MADE A DECISION. 310 00:12:09,628 --> 00:12:10,596 >> AND WE ARE CLEAR ABOUT THIS 311 00:12:10,696 --> 00:12:12,932 IF THE STATE -- IF I THINK I'M RIGHT ABOUT THIS 312 00:12:13,032 --> 00:12:14,934 BUT I'M SURE THE VIEWERS WILL LET US KNOW IF I'M WRONG 313 00:12:15,034 --> 00:12:17,136 WHICH IS - THEY NEVER HESITATE TO DO. 314 00:12:17,236 --> 00:12:20,072 BUT IF THE STATE ORDERS A NEW ELECTION WE WOULDN'T START OVER 315 00:12:20,172 --> 00:12:22,308 WITH PRIMARIES NECESSARILY DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY FELT. 316 00:12:22,408 --> 00:12:25,444 >> THE LEGISLATURE PASSED A LAW SAYING THAT WE WOULD. 317 00:12:25,544 --> 00:12:26,779 >> BUT IN THE MEANTIME 318 00:12:26,879 --> 00:12:29,548 THAT DISTRICT HAS NO REPRESENTATION IN CONGRESS 319 00:12:29,648 --> 00:12:33,219 ALSO ACROSS THE STATE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS -- 320 00:12:33,319 --> 00:12:35,988 >> THAT'S NOT ENTIRELY TRUE BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE ITSELF 321 00:12:36,088 --> 00:12:38,891 HAS APPOINTED A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO SERVE THE CONSTITUENTS 322 00:12:38,991 --> 00:12:40,493 >> CONSTITUENT SERVICES 323 00:12:40,593 --> 00:12:43,062 BUT NOT CASTING THOSE VOTES ON VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES. 324 00:12:43,162 --> 00:12:44,797 >> BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. 325 00:12:44,897 --> 00:12:46,065 WHO'S TO SAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PASS 326 00:12:46,165 --> 00:12:49,034 SOME MORE LEGISLATION IN THIS SESSION 327 00:12:49,135 --> 00:12:51,470 TO TINKER FURTHER WITH THE STATE BOARD OF ELECTIONS 328 00:12:51,570 --> 00:12:52,938 IN NEXT WEDNESDAY. 329 00:12:53,038 --> 00:12:55,441 THEY RETURNED TO RALLY TO GET DOWN TO BUSINESS SO FAR 330 00:12:55,541 --> 00:12:58,511 WE'VE HEARD THE TRADITIONAL PLEDGES OF HARMONY 331 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:00,346 THE APPOINTMENTS OF COMMITTEE CHAIRS 332 00:13:00,446 --> 00:13:03,182 AND MEMBERS PROMISES TO PASS THE BUDGET 333 00:13:03,282 --> 00:13:05,084 AND ADJOURN BY JULY 4TH. 334 00:13:05,184 --> 00:13:07,853 AND WE'VE HAD THE NORMAL ENTERTAINING GAME 335 00:13:07,953 --> 00:13:09,054 OF MUSICAL CHAIRS 336 00:13:09,155 --> 00:13:12,191 BEING PLAYED AS LAWMAKERS MOVE TO NEW OFFICES 337 00:13:12,291 --> 00:13:14,093 BUT COME WEDNESDAY THE REAL WORK BEGINS 338 00:13:14,193 --> 00:13:16,462 AND WE WANT OUR PANEL TO GIVE US A PREVIEW 339 00:13:16,562 --> 00:13:18,430 OF WHAT TO EXPECT IN THIS SESSION. 340 00:13:19,131 --> 00:13:22,434 I WANT TO START WITH BECKI WE HEARD PLEDGES OF HARMONY 341 00:13:22,535 --> 00:13:24,236 AND BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. 342 00:13:25,070 --> 00:13:28,340 IT'S TRUE REPUBLICANS DON'T HAVE THAT VETO PROOF MAJORITY 343 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,843 THAT THEY'VE HAD IN MANY YEARS. 344 00:13:30,943 --> 00:13:33,379 YOU THINK REALLY WE'LL SEE HARMONY IN THIS SESSION 345 00:13:33,479 --> 00:13:35,281 OR ARE WE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE SAME KIND OF CAT 346 00:13:35,381 --> 00:13:36,515 FIGHTING WE'VE SEEN. 347 00:13:36,615 --> 00:13:38,551 >> I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME OF BOTH. 348 00:13:38,651 --> 00:13:40,352 TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THEY'RE GOING TO BE DISAGREEMENTS 349 00:13:40,452 --> 00:13:42,588 THERE ALREADY ARE THINGS LIKE MEDICAID EXPANSION 350 00:13:42,688 --> 00:13:46,659 WHETHER TO SAVE MONEY OR SPEND MORE MONEY ON REDISTRICTING 351 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:48,527 AND THE ELECTIONS YOU KNOW THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT 352 00:13:48,627 --> 00:13:50,029 THERE'S GOING TO BE PLENTY TO FIGHT ABOUT. 353 00:13:50,129 --> 00:13:52,665 BUT THERE'S ALSO PLENTY THAT THERE IS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT 354 00:13:52,765 --> 00:13:53,933 FOR THINGS 355 00:13:54,033 --> 00:13:58,571 LIKE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SYSTEM REFORMS REMOVING REGULATIONS 356 00:13:58,671 --> 00:14:02,474 SO THAT CRAFT BREWERIES AND CRAFT DISTILLERIES CAN GROW 357 00:14:02,575 --> 00:14:05,144 AND CREATE JOBS OF COURSE ACROSS NORTH CAROLINA. 358 00:14:05,244 --> 00:14:06,712 THE GOVERNOR THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE 359 00:14:06,812 --> 00:14:08,480 AND THE SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION 360 00:14:08,581 --> 00:14:11,450 HAVE COME OUT IN SUPPORT OF A TWO BILLION DOLLAR SCHOOL 361 00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:12,985 CONSTRUCTION BOND. 362 00:14:13,085 --> 00:14:16,655 I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES HEALTH CARE COSTS ARE OUT OF CONTROL. 363 00:14:16,755 --> 00:14:18,924 THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE IS UNSUSTAINABLE. 364 00:14:19,024 --> 00:14:20,926 LOOKING AT EXPANDING SCOPE OF PRACTICE 365 00:14:21,026 --> 00:14:22,728 REMOVING CERTIFICATE OF NEED 366 00:14:22,828 --> 00:14:25,130 SOME OF THOSE KIND THINGS OPENING UP THE INSURANCE MARKET 367 00:14:25,231 --> 00:14:28,834 WHERE YOU'RE TAUGHT HEARING TALK OF ASSOCIATION INSURANCE PLANS 368 00:14:28,934 --> 00:14:31,570 TO OFFER MORE COMPETITION WITH HEALTH INSURANCE. 369 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:33,372 >> SO I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF AREAS 370 00:14:33,472 --> 00:14:35,374 >> YOU JUST CHECKED OFF ALL THE BOXES I HAD 371 00:14:35,474 --> 00:14:36,542 TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT. 372 00:14:36,642 --> 00:14:38,143 I THINK FOR THE REST OF THE PROGRAM 373 00:14:38,244 --> 00:14:40,412 WE'LL JUST TAKE A BREAK. 374 00:14:40,512 --> 00:14:41,647 ACTUALLY, 375 00:14:41,747 --> 00:14:44,183 JOHN YOU WROTE AN INTERESTING COLUMN THIS WEEK SAYING 376 00:14:44,283 --> 00:14:49,521 THAT BETWEEN UNDERSPENDING OF APPROPRIATED FUNDS 377 00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:53,192 AND SURPLUSES IN REVENUE FROM WHAT WAS FORECAST. 378 00:14:53,292 --> 00:14:55,794 WE'VE GOT APPROXIMATELY FIVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS 379 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:57,663 IN AVAILABLE DOLLARS. IS THAT CORRECT. 380 00:14:57,763 --> 00:14:59,431 >> WELL, YEAH, I MEAN ESSENTIALLY IT'S THE FIRST 381 00:14:59,531 --> 00:15:01,500 SIX MONTHS OF THE FISCAL YEAR. 382 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,535 THE REVENUES RUN IN A COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS 383 00:15:03,636 --> 00:15:05,771 ABOVE THE PREVIOUS FORECAST. 384 00:15:05,871 --> 00:15:09,108 YOU'VE ALSO GOT A CASH SURPLUS FOR THE CURRENT YEAR MONEY 385 00:15:09,208 --> 00:15:12,678 VERSUS SPENDING SHARES IN THE 400 MILLION DOLLAR RANGE OR SO. 386 00:15:12,778 --> 00:15:14,513 SO IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THAT NUMBER TOM 387 00:15:14,613 --> 00:15:16,582 BUT WE ARE WE'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW 388 00:15:16,682 --> 00:15:17,816 THAT THERE HAVE BEEN YEARS 389 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,853 WHEN THAT SURPLUS WAS HEADED UP TOWARDS A BILLION 390 00:15:20,953 --> 00:15:25,057 WHERE THE REVENUE OVERAGE WOULD BE HALF OF THAT. 391 00:15:25,157 --> 00:15:26,892 WE MIGHT GET THERE THROUGH THE IN FISCAL YEAR 392 00:15:26,992 --> 00:15:28,193 BUT IT'S STILL TOO EARLY 393 00:15:28,294 --> 00:15:29,428 TO START SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY. 394 00:15:29,528 --> 00:15:30,429 WE HAVEN'T COLLECTED YET. 395 00:15:30,529 --> 00:15:31,764 >> AND THESE APPROPRIATIONS CHAIRS 396 00:15:31,864 --> 00:15:33,032 ARE QUICK TO TELL US 397 00:15:33,132 --> 00:15:35,267 THIS IS ONE TIME MONEY YOU CAN'T GO -- 398 00:15:35,367 --> 00:15:37,336 >> SOME OF IT IS RECURRING. >> GOVERNOR COOPER CHRIS, 399 00:15:37,436 --> 00:15:40,239 HAS GOT A LONG LIST OF PROJECTS THAT HE WANTS TO SEE 400 00:15:40,339 --> 00:15:42,441 THE LEGISLATURE SPENDING SOME MONEY ON. 401 00:15:42,541 --> 00:15:44,176 NONE THE LEAST OF WHICH IS TEACHER PAY INCREASES 402 00:15:44,276 --> 00:15:45,411 BRINGING US UP 403 00:15:45,511 --> 00:15:48,080 TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE AND PER PUPIL EXPENDITURE. 404 00:15:48,180 --> 00:15:50,516 >> RIGHT. AND REMEMBER PER PUPIL EXPENDITURES WERE STILL BELOW 405 00:15:50,616 --> 00:15:52,451 WHERE WE WERE BEFORE THE GREAT RECESSION HIT 406 00:15:52,551 --> 00:15:54,520 WHICH IS NOT A BADGE OF HONOR. 407 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:56,889 I STILL THINK THERE ARE COUPLE OVERRIDING THEMES OF THE SESSION 408 00:15:56,989 --> 00:16:01,060 YOU HIT ON ONE OF THEM WHICH IS THE VETO PROOF MAJORITY IS GONE. 409 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,629 SO THERE BE MUCH MORE NEGOTIATION BEHIND THE SCENES. 410 00:16:03,729 --> 00:16:05,397 I THINK MEDICAID EXPANSION DESPITE WHAT BECKI SAID 411 00:16:05,497 --> 00:16:06,999 THERE ARE A LOT OF REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE. 412 00:16:07,099 --> 00:16:09,802 DR. MURPHY GREGG MURPHY IN THE HOUSE A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE 413 00:16:09,902 --> 00:16:11,670 DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD EXPAND MEDICAID 414 00:16:11,770 --> 00:16:13,205 NOT MAYBE THE WAY THAT I WOULDN'T WANT. 415 00:16:13,305 --> 00:16:15,374 THAT'S GOING TO BE A GIANT ISSUE IT'S NOT JUST PARTISAN. 416 00:16:15,474 --> 00:16:16,709 THERE ARE REPUBLICANS WHO SUPPORT IT. 417 00:16:16,809 --> 00:16:19,078 ONE THING WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ONCE AGAIN THIS WEEK 418 00:16:19,178 --> 00:16:22,047 SPEAKER MOORE ENTERS THE SESSION UNDER AN ETHICAL CLOUD. 419 00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:23,882 WE HEARD ANOTHER SCANDAL BREAK THIS PAST WEEK 420 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:25,384 WHERE HE PAID A FORMER EMPLOYEE NINETY 421 00:16:25,484 --> 00:16:26,618 FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS 422 00:16:26,719 --> 00:16:28,120 WHEN HE LEFT FOR WORKING FOR YOU. 423 00:16:28,220 --> 00:16:30,422 I THINK THIS IS THE FOURTH OR FIFTH THING 424 00:16:30,522 --> 00:16:32,524 THAT PEOPLE ARE UPSET ABOUT SOME ACTIVE FEDERAL 425 00:16:32,624 --> 00:16:35,027 AND STATE INVESTIGATIONS HE'S HIRED A LAWYER. 426 00:16:35,127 --> 00:16:36,695 THIS IS NOT A SMALL THING ON JONES STREET 427 00:16:36,795 --> 00:16:38,931 BECAUSE WHETHER THESE THINGS COME TO FRUITION 428 00:16:39,031 --> 00:16:40,599 THE SESSION MEMBERS ON CAUCUS 429 00:16:40,699 --> 00:16:41,600 HAVE TO BE STARTING TO WONDER 430 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:42,768 WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE SPEAKER'S OFFICE. 431 00:16:42,868 --> 00:16:44,136 THAT IS A BIG DEAL. >> IN THE CLOUDS OF LEADERSHIP 432 00:16:44,236 --> 00:16:45,671 LET ME GO AROUND THE TABLE VERY QUICKLY 433 00:16:45,771 --> 00:16:48,073 BECAUSE CHRIS RAISED THIS ISSUE ABOUT MEDICAID EXPANSION 434 00:16:48,173 --> 00:16:49,808 RIGHT IN ASKING HIM 435 00:16:49,908 --> 00:16:53,812 THE QUESTION: WHO THINKS THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THIS SESSION? 436 00:16:53,912 --> 00:16:55,014 >> I THINK IT'S A GOOD SHOT AT IT. 437 00:16:55,114 --> 00:16:56,415 I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT 438 00:16:56,515 --> 00:16:58,450 BUT I THINK THERE'S A SHOT. >> JOHN? 439 00:16:58,550 --> 00:17:00,786 >> I'D BE MORE LIKE 50/50 ON IT AT BEST. 440 00:17:00,886 --> 00:17:01,754 >> BECKI. 441 00:17:01,854 --> 00:17:03,622 >> I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT WILL HAPPEN. 442 00:17:03,722 --> 00:17:05,391 I THINK THAT FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY 443 00:17:05,491 --> 00:17:07,960 LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE BUDGET. YOU KNOW CHRIS MENTIONED TEACHER 444 00:17:08,060 --> 00:17:10,763 PAY INCREASES MORE MONEY TOWARDS EDUCATION. 445 00:17:10,863 --> 00:17:12,398 THERE'S A LOT OF NEEDS IN THE STATE 446 00:17:12,498 --> 00:17:15,200 AND OR IN MEDICAID EXPANSION. WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING. 447 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:16,969 >> I THINK IT'LL PASS THE HOUSE AND YOU BELIEVE 448 00:17:17,069 --> 00:17:18,470 A LOT OF REPUBLICANS LIKE DR. MURPHY 449 00:17:18,570 --> 00:17:19,972 AND OTHERS ARE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE. 450 00:17:20,072 --> 00:17:22,074 MAYBE SO BUT I THINK IT'LL PASS THE HOUSE WE'LL SEE 451 00:17:22,174 --> 00:17:23,742 IN THE SENATE THE GOVERNOR AND HOUSE WANT TO DO IT. 452 00:17:23,842 --> 00:17:26,111 >> ROB WE'RE CERTAIN TO HAVE MORE REQUESTS 453 00:17:26,211 --> 00:17:28,147 AND MORE APPROPRIATION FOR HURRICANE RECOVERY 454 00:17:28,247 --> 00:17:29,448 ARE WE NOT WE'VE SPENT EIGHT HUNDRED -- 455 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:31,116 WE ALLOCATED $850 MILLION DOLLARS. 456 00:17:31,216 --> 00:17:32,351 YOU THINK THERE'S GONNA BE MORE? 457 00:17:32,451 --> 00:17:33,652 >> I DON'T DOUBT IT. 458 00:17:33,752 --> 00:17:35,087 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER 459 00:17:35,187 --> 00:17:37,623 THAT HAD WE LEFT TAXES WHERE THEY WERE FIVE YEARS AGO 460 00:17:37,723 --> 00:17:40,059 WHEN NORTH CAROLINA WAS ALREADY RANKED HIGH IN THE STATES 461 00:17:40,159 --> 00:17:43,095 AMONGST MOST DESIRABLE FOR RELOCATING YOUR BUSINESS 462 00:17:43,195 --> 00:17:44,563 WE'D HAVE FOUR BILLION DOLLARS 463 00:17:44,663 --> 00:17:47,099 ACTUALLY IN RECURRING SPENDING IN OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR. 464 00:17:47,199 --> 00:17:48,934 WE'D HAVE ALL KINDS OF 465 00:17:49,034 --> 00:17:51,236 WE'D HAVE THAT TEACHER PAY PROBLEM ADDRESSED. 466 00:17:51,336 --> 00:17:52,905 WE COULD HAVE EXPANDED MEDICAID THERE'S SO MUCH 467 00:17:53,005 --> 00:17:55,240 WE COULD HAVE DONE THERE WAS TO BE A LOT OF PENT UP DEMAND 468 00:17:55,340 --> 00:17:57,376 TO GET AFTER THAT WE HAVE NEGLECTED 469 00:17:57,476 --> 00:18:00,579 AND SYSTEMATICALLY UNDER INVESTED IN SO MANY PROGRAM 470 00:18:00,679 --> 00:18:02,414 NO DOUBT ANYBODY THAT CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM 471 00:18:02,514 --> 00:18:03,816 IS GOING TO BE WANT MORE MONEY. 472 00:18:03,916 --> 00:18:05,918 >> BUT ONE OF THE PHILOSOPHIES 473 00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:08,353 OVER IN THIS LEGISLATURE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS 474 00:18:08,454 --> 00:18:12,558 SINCE 2012 CERTAINLY HAS BEEN A MORE CONSERVATIVE PHILOSOPHY 475 00:18:12,658 --> 00:18:15,194 SO FAR AS SAVINGS ARE CONCERNED. 476 00:18:15,294 --> 00:18:17,429 WE HAD A TWO BILLION DOLLAR RAINY DAY FUND 477 00:18:17,529 --> 00:18:18,730 FROM WHICH WE COULD DRAW 478 00:18:18,831 --> 00:18:21,500 THESE FUNDS FOR HURRICANE APPROPRIATIONS 479 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,302 ARE WE GOING TO SEE MORE MOVEMENT 480 00:18:23,402 --> 00:18:25,737 TO SOCK MORE MONEY INTO RAINY DAY. 481 00:18:25,838 --> 00:18:27,272 >> WE'VE SPENT OUT OF THE RAINY DAY. 482 00:18:27,372 --> 00:18:30,008 SO WE'RE DOWN TO ONE POINT TWO PLUS YOU'VE GOT 483 00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:32,044 SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN OTHER ACCOUNTS. 484 00:18:32,144 --> 00:18:34,980 IT'S A HEALTHY AMOUNT IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS WE HAD TWO YEARS AGO. 485 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,549 I THINK THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT PRESSURE 486 00:18:37,649 --> 00:18:39,485 IN THE LEGISLATURE AND I AGREE WITH IT 487 00:18:39,585 --> 00:18:41,587 TO MAKE ONE OF THE PRIORITIES BE RESTORE 488 00:18:41,687 --> 00:18:42,955 SOME OF THE MONEY THAT WAS TAKEN OUT. 489 00:18:43,055 --> 00:18:44,590 >> I THINK ONE OF THE SLEEPER ISSUES OF THIS SESSION 490 00:18:44,690 --> 00:18:47,259 IS WE WILL ELECT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF GOVERNORS 491 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,261 SOMETIME THIS SPRING WE DO IT EVERY LONG SESSION 492 00:18:49,361 --> 00:18:51,563 NORMALLY PEOPLE SORT OUT A LITTLE BIT PAY ATTENTION TO IT 493 00:18:51,663 --> 00:18:53,832 THAT GOES UNDER THE RADAR -- >> DID WE MAKE NOMINATIONS? 494 00:18:53,932 --> 00:18:55,834 >> WELL IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UNDER THE RADAR THIS YEAR. 495 00:18:55,934 --> 00:18:57,402 >> WE'RE ALL ON THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS. 496 00:18:57,503 --> 00:18:59,404 WE CAN'T ALSO BE ON THE UNC BOARD OF GOVERNORS. 497 00:18:59,505 --> 00:19:01,874 >> TELL YOU WHAT - I'LL TRADE MY PLACE ON THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS! 498 00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:04,543 I'LL GET ON THE BOG! >> THIS IS THE MOST ATTENTION 499 00:19:04,643 --> 00:19:06,211 PAID TO THOSE ELECTIONS IN A LONG TIME. 500 00:19:06,311 --> 00:19:07,613 >> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. 501 00:19:07,713 --> 00:19:08,947 >> I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF VETTING 502 00:19:09,047 --> 00:19:10,282 OF THOSE CANDIDATES. 503 00:19:10,382 --> 00:19:11,650 >> HOW ABOUT THIS READ TO ACHIEVE PROGRAM. 504 00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:14,153 WE JUST RECEIVED RESULTS ABOUT THE FACT 505 00:19:14,253 --> 00:19:17,156 THAT IT IS NOT ACCOMPLISHING WHAT WE HAD INTENDED. 506 00:19:17,256 --> 00:19:20,159 CERTAINLY SENATOR PHIL BERGER INTENDED TO ACCOMPLISH. 507 00:19:20,259 --> 00:19:22,861 YOU THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME EITHER MORE APPROPRIATIONS 508 00:19:22,961 --> 00:19:24,863 OR SOME TWEAKING OF THAT PROGRAM? 509 00:19:24,963 --> 00:19:26,165 >> I THINK WE CERTAINLY NEED TO. 510 00:19:26,265 --> 00:19:28,800 I THINK THAT THERE CLEARLY IS A NEED. 511 00:19:28,901 --> 00:19:31,470 I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES THAT WE ARE KIDS COMING OUT OF SCHOOL 512 00:19:31,570 --> 00:19:32,871 NEED TO KNOW HOW TO READ. 513 00:19:32,971 --> 00:19:34,973 NOW IF WE DO THAT AT THE THIRD GRADE LEVEL 514 00:19:35,073 --> 00:19:36,308 OR MANY PEOPLE ARE ARGUING 515 00:19:36,408 --> 00:19:38,911 THAT WE REALLY NEED TO TAKE IT BACK TO PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS 516 00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:41,547 AND PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE PRESCHOOL PROGRAMS. 517 00:19:41,647 --> 00:19:43,649 I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF STUDIES DONE. 518 00:19:43,749 --> 00:19:46,051 I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT OTHER STATES ARE DOING 519 00:19:46,151 --> 00:19:48,320 AND THEY'RE DOING WELL AND WHERE THE RESULTS ARE. 520 00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:50,422 I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THE MONEY WHERE WE KNOW 521 00:19:50,522 --> 00:19:52,090 WE'RE GOING TO GET THE RESULTS 522 00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:56,628 BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THE RESPONSIBILITY IS TO THE KIDS. 523 00:19:56,728 --> 00:19:57,863 >> THAT'S WHAT THE BUSINESS LEADERS SAID THIS WEEK. 524 00:19:57,963 --> 00:19:59,665 THEY'RE TELLING US BUSINESS LEADERS IN NORTH CAROLINA 525 00:19:59,765 --> 00:20:01,466 ARE SAYING INVEST IN PRE-K. 526 00:20:01,567 --> 00:20:04,336 WE NEED TO BRING THIS NURTURING APPROACH LET'S GROW OUR CHILDREN 527 00:20:04,436 --> 00:20:07,472 LET'S HELP THEM EARLY ON LET'S NOT JUST DEMAND RESULTS 528 00:20:07,573 --> 00:20:09,875 WITH A TEST YOU KNOW LATER ON IN THIRD GRADE 529 00:20:09,975 --> 00:20:11,577 AND HOLD THEM BACK IT'S THAT PUNITIVE APPROACH 530 00:20:11,677 --> 00:20:13,345 AS OPPOSED TO HELPING THEM ALONG APPROACH. 531 00:20:13,445 --> 00:20:14,880 >> AND VERY QUICKLY 532 00:20:14,980 --> 00:20:17,649 IS THE SCHOOL BOND REFERENDUM IDEA 533 00:20:17,749 --> 00:20:19,017 GOING TO GET PASSED 534 00:20:19,117 --> 00:20:21,153 AND WILL WE BE VOTING ON IT THIS YEAR 535 00:20:21,253 --> 00:20:22,754 OR WILL IT BE 2020? QUICKLY. 536 00:20:22,854 --> 00:20:23,956 >> IT'LL DEFINITELY PASS. 537 00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:25,624 THE ARGUMENT WILL BE WHAT'S IN IT. 538 00:20:25,724 --> 00:20:27,059 I MEAN IT'S EASY TO SAY EVERYBODY'S FOR IT. 539 00:20:27,159 --> 00:20:28,894 WHEN YOU START DIVIDING IT UP THERE'LL BE A BIG BATTLE 540 00:20:28,994 --> 00:20:30,462 BETWEEN URBAN AND RURAL AREA 541 00:20:30,562 --> 00:20:32,297 >> THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR? >> I THINK 2020 PROBABLY 542 00:20:32,397 --> 00:20:34,433 BUT THERE'S EIGHT BILLION DOLLARS IN NEED NOT JUST TWO. 543 00:20:34,533 --> 00:20:35,767 >> I THINK SO TOO BECAUSE -- 544 00:20:35,867 --> 00:20:37,436 >> NOT ONLY THAT, BUT TRANSPORTATION BONDS 545 00:20:37,536 --> 00:20:39,705 WE GOT WATER AND SEWER, 546 00:20:39,805 --> 00:20:42,107 >> EXACTLY, BUT MORE VOTER TURNOUT MORE PARTICIPATION 547 00:20:42,207 --> 00:20:43,408 MORE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO VOICE 548 00:20:43,508 --> 00:20:46,478 WHETHER OR NOT THEY SUPPORT A TWO BILLION DOLLAR BOND 549 00:20:46,578 --> 00:20:50,015 >> PRIVATIZING ABC YES OR NO? >> DO I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, 550 00:20:50,115 --> 00:20:51,950 OR DO I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? 551 00:20:52,050 --> 00:20:53,285 >> I DON'T THINK SO. 552 00:20:53,385 --> 00:20:56,788 >> NOT IT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE MOST HOTLY LOBBIED ISSUES 553 00:20:56,888 --> 00:20:58,890 IN THIS GENERAL ASSEMBLY JOHN PASSED 554 00:20:58,991 --> 00:21:02,594 I HOPE IT PASSES I'M NOT GOING TO BET ON IT THIS YEAR 555 00:21:02,694 --> 00:21:03,862 I HOPE IT PASSES TOO 556 00:21:03,962 --> 00:21:06,265 BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT INCREMENTAL CHANGES 557 00:21:06,365 --> 00:21:08,300 WILL GET US TO THE END GO AND IT DOESN'T 558 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,868 ALL HAVE TO BE DONE IN ONE YEAR. 559 00:21:09,968 --> 00:21:11,637 >> WE GOING TO SEE PRISON REFORM? 560 00:21:12,604 --> 00:21:14,072 >> I HOPE SO. 561 00:21:14,172 --> 00:21:16,908 I THINK THAT'S THAT'S MORE LIKELY THAN ABC PRIVATIZATION 562 00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:20,112 BECAUSE IT'S A CONSERVATIVE OR THE RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES 563 00:21:20,212 --> 00:21:21,980 IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL FIGHT THAT. 564 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,548 I MEAN THAT WOULD BE THEIR ONE OF THEIR PRIORITIES 565 00:21:23,649 --> 00:21:25,250 OF THE SESSION. IT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT. 566 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:27,919 >> HOWEVER THEY ACTUALLY AND OTHERS WILL BE ADVOCATES 567 00:21:28,020 --> 00:21:29,154 OF PRISON REFORM. THAT'S RIGHT. 568 00:21:29,254 --> 00:21:30,222 >> THAT'S ONE AREA WHERE LEFT AND RIGHT 569 00:21:30,322 --> 00:21:31,723 TEND TO KIND OF COME TOGETHER. 570 00:21:31,823 --> 00:21:34,726 >> WE'RE HEARING THERE MAY BE A PUSH TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA. 571 00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:36,595 >> I THINK THERE WILL BE A PUSH. 572 00:21:36,695 --> 00:21:38,463 >> THERE'S ALWAYS A PUSH TO LEGALIZE MARIJUANA. 573 00:21:38,563 --> 00:21:40,599 THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHY WE NEED 574 00:21:40,699 --> 00:21:43,101 TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE ABC SYSTEM 575 00:21:43,201 --> 00:21:45,337 AND GET BACK IN GOOD WORKING ORDER 576 00:21:45,437 --> 00:21:48,540 IF WE'RE GOING TO AT SOME POINT LEGALIZE MARIJUANA IN THE STATE 577 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,076 BECAUSE THE TWO COULD REALLY BE CONNECTED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT 578 00:21:51,176 --> 00:21:52,544 AND OVERSIGHT IN THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 579 00:21:52,644 --> 00:21:55,147 SO IT'S THOSE TWO THINGS ARE CONNECTED IN MY MIND. 580 00:21:55,247 --> 00:21:56,948 >> SENATOR HARRY BROWN, JOHN, IS GOING TO WANT US 581 00:21:57,049 --> 00:21:59,818 TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON BROADBAND INTERNET INTERNET 582 00:21:59,918 --> 00:22:01,620 CONNECTIVITY FOR RURAL AREAS. 583 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,388 >> THERE IS GONNA BE A PUSH FOR THAT THIS YEAR. 584 00:22:03,488 --> 00:22:05,190 YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO PASS? 585 00:22:05,791 --> 00:22:06,958 >> I THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT TRADES 586 00:22:07,059 --> 00:22:08,527 OFF OF THE SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION BOND. 587 00:22:08,627 --> 00:22:09,928 I MEAN THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY 588 00:22:10,028 --> 00:22:11,330 YOU GO SPEND ON INFRASTRUCTURE 589 00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:13,665 WHICH IS THAT WHICH IS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY OF COURSE 590 00:22:13,765 --> 00:22:16,168 YOU KNOW INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE COULD. 591 00:22:16,835 --> 00:22:18,670 THERE ARE SOME PRIVATE SECTOR INITIATIVES 592 00:22:18,770 --> 00:22:22,074 THAT ARE SORT OF LEAPFROGGING THE NEXT WAVE OF WIRES 593 00:22:22,908 --> 00:22:24,943 THAT ARE GOING TO AFFECT RURAL AREAS IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS 594 00:22:25,043 --> 00:22:26,578 AND WE NEED TO BE THINKING VERY CAREFULLY 595 00:22:26,678 --> 00:22:28,613 ABOUT WHAT WE SPEND PUBLIC DOLLARS ON. 596 00:22:28,714 --> 00:22:33,251 >> ALL RIGHT. REGULATORY REFORM. 597 00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:36,254 BECKI MENTIONED THIS PARTICULARLY LICENSING REFORM 598 00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:41,126 SO FAR AS REGULATIONS ON SMALL BUSINESSES AND BUSINESSES 599 00:22:41,226 --> 00:22:42,861 IN NORTH CAROLINA. 600 00:22:42,961 --> 00:22:44,563 >> ANYTHING THAT CERTIFICATE OF NEED CERTAINLY? 601 00:22:44,663 --> 00:22:46,398 >> THE CHALLENGE WITH LICENSING REFORMS, 602 00:22:46,498 --> 00:22:48,233 THE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY LICENSED 603 00:22:48,333 --> 00:22:50,202 ARE ACTUALLY THE ADVOCATES OF LICENSING REFORM. 604 00:22:50,302 --> 00:22:51,903 THEY DON'T WANT TO DEREGULATE 605 00:22:52,003 --> 00:22:53,472 THEIR INDUSTRY AND FACE COMPETITION 606 00:22:53,572 --> 00:22:54,973 AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO FIGHT THAT. 607 00:22:55,073 --> 00:22:57,242 >> ONE PERSON'S LICENSING REFORM IS ONE PERSON'S ATTACK - 608 00:22:57,342 --> 00:22:59,277 ANOTHER PERSON'S ATTACK ON CONSUMER PROTECTION. 609 00:22:59,378 --> 00:23:00,946 >> I WENT FOR THE LICENSES 610 00:23:01,046 --> 00:23:03,749 WHY DON'T WE JUST HAVE RECIPROCITY WITH OTHER STATES. 611 00:23:03,849 --> 00:23:05,183 IF YOU OPEN THAT UP AND ALLOW PEOPLE 612 00:23:05,283 --> 00:23:07,386 TO HAVE A LICENSE IN ONE STATE TO COME TO NORTH CAROLINA 613 00:23:07,486 --> 00:23:09,755 >> ARE THEY GOING TO ADJOURN JULY 4TH 614 00:23:09,855 --> 00:23:11,790 LIKE THEY'RE SAYING? >> [ALL] NO. 615 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:13,125 IT SEEMS LIKE A REAL LONG SHOT. 616 00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:15,227 >> ARE THEY GOING TO PASS A BUDGET IT'S IN 617 00:23:15,794 --> 00:23:17,562 WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF ANGST? 618 00:23:17,662 --> 00:23:18,797 >> NO. 619 00:23:18,897 --> 00:23:21,366 >> THIS IS A DIFFERENT STORY NOW BECAUSE OF THE VETO PROOF 620 00:23:21,466 --> 00:23:22,934 MAJORITY NO LONGER BEING IN PLACE. 621 00:23:23,034 --> 00:23:25,771 >> IT'S ALSO A DIFFERENT STORY BECAUSE IN 2016 THERE WAS A LAW 622 00:23:25,871 --> 00:23:27,572 THAT PASSED THAT SAID IF THEY CAN'T PASS A BUDGET 623 00:23:27,672 --> 00:23:29,574 THEY CAN JUST REVERT TO LAST YEAR'S BUDGET 624 00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:32,210 SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUT THEY CAN ALSO CHANGE THE LAW. 625 00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:34,079 >> I GOT TWO MINUTES LEFT. 626 00:23:34,179 --> 00:23:35,480 TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 627 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:37,682 >> INTERESTING VOTES OR NON VOTES 628 00:23:37,783 --> 00:23:38,884 TO SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT 629 00:23:38,984 --> 00:23:41,052 THIS PAST THIS PAST WEEK OR TODAY. 630 00:23:41,153 --> 00:23:43,088 THIS THURSDAY THE ONLY U.S. SENATOR 631 00:23:43,188 --> 00:23:45,390 WHO VOTED ON ONE OF THE BILLS VOTED FOR TRUMP'S BILL 632 00:23:45,490 --> 00:23:46,858 AND DID NOT VOTE ON THE DEMOCRATIC BILL 633 00:23:46,958 --> 00:23:48,693 SENATOR RICHARD BURR OF NORTH CAROLINA. 634 00:23:48,794 --> 00:23:50,629 AND HE HAS YET TO EXPLAIN WHY HE DIDN'T VOTE. 635 00:23:50,729 --> 00:23:53,398 >> ALL RIGHT ROB TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 636 00:23:53,498 --> 00:23:55,534 >> INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH THE LOWER CAPE FEAR RIVER 637 00:23:55,634 --> 00:23:57,702 WE HAD A STORY ON THIS WEEK THIS WEEK ON NC POLICY 638 00:23:57,803 --> 00:23:59,004 WATCH WE THINK OF IT AS A RIVER. 639 00:23:59,104 --> 00:24:03,074 IT'S NOW BEING IT'S CLASSIFIED AS A SWAMP BY SOME OFFICIALS 640 00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:04,910 AND THE POLLUTERS LIKE IT THAT WAY. 641 00:24:05,010 --> 00:24:07,078 >> I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE IN SOUTHEASTERN CAROLINA 642 00:24:07,179 --> 00:24:09,548 WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER IT A SWAMP. 643 00:24:09,648 --> 00:24:11,817 >> I DON'T THINK SO EITHER BUT THAT'S HOW THE RULES -- 644 00:24:11,917 --> 00:24:13,585 THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO GET IT BACK. 645 00:24:13,685 --> 00:24:14,920 >> THAT BECAUSE OF THE POLLUTION? 646 00:24:15,020 --> 00:24:15,887 >> YEAH. 647 00:24:15,987 --> 00:24:16,822 IT'S BEEN CAUSED BY HOG FARM POLLUTION 648 00:24:16,922 --> 00:24:18,056 AND BY OTHER DISCHARGES. 649 00:24:18,156 --> 00:24:19,591 >> BECKI TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 650 00:24:19,691 --> 00:24:22,994 >> 12,000 DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED 651 00:24:23,094 --> 00:24:25,931 VICTIMS OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE ARE ON A WAITING LIST TO RECEIVE 652 00:24:26,031 --> 00:24:31,002 MEDICAID SUPPORT SERVICES. LAST YEAR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 653 00:24:31,102 --> 00:24:34,606 ALLOCATED MONEY FOR ABOUT 40 OF 400 OF THOSE PEOPLE. 654 00:24:34,706 --> 00:24:36,808 WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT INSTEAD OF EXPANDING MEDICAID. 655 00:24:36,908 --> 00:24:38,810 >> ALL RIGHT, JOHN TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T -- 656 00:24:38,910 --> 00:24:40,512 >> SCHOOL CHOICE IS GOING TO BE A HOT TOPIC IN THE LEGISLATURE 657 00:24:40,612 --> 00:24:43,281 WE DIDN'T MENTION BOTH ATTEMPTS TO EXPAND CURRENT PROGRAMS 658 00:24:43,381 --> 00:24:45,817 AND ATTEMPT TO INCREASE REGULATION ON THE EXISTING ONES. 659 00:24:45,917 --> 00:24:47,085 >> WOW. 660 00:24:47,185 --> 00:24:50,021 WELL YOU'VE HEARD OUR SPIN ON THE ISSUES OF THE DAY. 661 00:24:50,121 --> 00:24:52,491 TO LEARN MORE ALL DURING THE WEEK AND STAY INFORMED 662 00:24:52,591 --> 00:24:55,427 BE SURE TO SIGN UP FOR OUR FREE WEEKLY E-MAIL NEWSLETTER. 663 00:24:56,127 --> 00:24:57,929 SPIN CYCLE GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK. 664 00:24:58,029 --> 00:25:00,665 READ MY WEEKLY COLUMN NCSPIN.COM, 665 00:25:00,765 --> 00:25:02,834 OR CATCH NC SPIN ON FACEBOOK. 666 00:25:02,934 --> 00:25:05,203 JOIN US NEXT WEEK WHEN BRAD CRONE WILL BE 667 00:25:05,303 --> 00:25:06,538 SITTING IN THIS CHAIR 668 00:25:06,638 --> 00:25:08,707 AND WE'LL HAVE MORE BALANCE OF DEBATE FOR THE OLD MORE STATE. 669 00:25:08,807 --> 00:25:12,043 UNTIL THEN STAY INFORMED AND WATCH OUT FOR THE SPIN. 670 00:25:12,143 --> 00:25:27,158 ♪ 671 00:25:28,426 --> 00:25:32,364 >> THEY ARE UP BEFORE DAWN, AND WORK LATE INTO THE NIGHT. 672 00:25:32,931 --> 00:25:35,300 >> THEY BELIEVE IN HARD WORK, FAMILY, 673 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,270 AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. 674 00:25:38,370 --> 00:25:40,539 THEY STAND UP FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES 675 00:25:40,639 --> 00:25:43,241 WHEN OTHERS WALK AWAY. 676 00:25:43,341 --> 00:25:46,444 THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT A FAIR SHAKE. 677 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:48,547 THEY ARE FARMERS. 678 00:25:49,648 --> 00:25:51,316 AT NORTH CAROLINA FARM BUREAU. 679 00:25:51,416 --> 00:25:54,719 WE ARE PROUD TO STAND WITH OUR FARMERS. 680 00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:58,523 >> TODAY'S TOOLS MAKE YOUR REAL DIYER, 681 00:25:58,623 --> 00:26:00,525 AND AS A MEMBER OF AN ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE 682 00:26:00,625 --> 00:26:03,828 YOU HAVE LOTS OF VALUABLE TOOLS TO HELP YOU DO IT YOURSELF 683 00:26:03,929 --> 00:26:06,398 IN CONTROLLING YOUR HOME ENERGY USE AND BUDGET 684 00:26:06,498 --> 00:26:09,167 LEAVING YOU FREE TO BE DAD. 685 00:26:11,202 --> 00:26:13,872 >> 12,000 NORTH CAROLINA VETERANS ARE UNINSURED 686 00:26:13,972 --> 00:26:15,941 WITH NO OPTIONS TO BUY HEALTH INSURANCE. 687 00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:19,177 THEY FOUGHT FOR US, NOW LET'S FIGHT FOR THEM. 688 00:26:19,277 --> 00:26:20,946 LET'S CREATE A NORTH CAROLINA SOLUTION 689 00:26:21,046 --> 00:26:22,681 FOR COVERING THE UNINSURED. 690 00:26:22,781 --> 00:26:26,117 TO LEARN MORE, VISIT: 691 00:26:27,385 --> 00:26:31,656 >> PRODUCTION UNDERWRITING PROVIDED BY: 692 00:26:32,257 --> 00:26:35,927 FAMILY PHYSICIANS, YOUR TRUSTED HEALTHCARE ADVISOR FOR LIFE. 693 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:41,366 >> NORTH CAROLINA CHANNEL IS MADE POSSIBLE BY 694 00:26:41,466 --> 00:26:44,069 THE FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF VIEWERS LIKE YOU 695 00:26:44,169 --> 00:26:46,338 WHO SUPPORT THE UNC-TV NETWORK.