WEBVTT 00:01.034 --> 00:03.036 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% [UPBEAT MUSIC] 00:03.570 --> 00:05.205 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% - [ANNOUNCER] THIS IS NC SPIN, 00:05.305 --> 00:07.607 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% AN UNREHEARSED DISCUSSION ON ISSUES OF INTEREST 00:07.707 --> 00:09.075 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% TO NORTH CAROLINIANS. 00:09.175 --> 00:12.612 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% NOW, HERE IS YOUR MODERATOR, TOM CAMPBELL. 00:15.215 --> 00:17.250 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% THANK YOU FOR JOINING THIS WEEK'S NC SPIN. 00:17.350 --> 00:19.319 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% THERE IS MUCH TO TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK INCLUDING 00:19.419 --> 00:23.590 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% A DISTURBING DOWNWARD TREND IN FIGHTING COVID-19. 00:23.690 --> 00:26.493 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WE TALK ABOUT THAT PLUS ORDERS TO CLOSE A SPEEDWAY. 00:26.593 --> 00:28.762 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% WE WILL LOOK AT SEVERAL PROPOSALS IN RESPONSE TO 00:28.862 --> 00:31.765 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% RACIAL VIOLENCE AND ASK HOW THINGS MIGHT CHANGE 00:31.865 --> 00:33.900 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AND WE LOOK AT NEW GUIDELINES FOR SENDING OUR 00:34.000 --> 00:35.969 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% CHILDREN BACK TO SCHOOL AND WANT TO KNOW 00:36.069 --> 00:37.137 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% IF THEY CAN BE SAFE. 00:37.237 --> 00:39.839 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% PLUS OUR PANEL WILL TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 00:40.340 --> 00:41.608 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% JOINING OUR PANEL THIS WEEK ARE: 00:42.275 --> 00:45.745 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CHRIS FITZSIMON, DIRECTOR, OF THE STATES NEWSROOM 00:45.845 --> 00:50.116 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ANNA BEAVON GRAVELY, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NC FREE 00:50.216 --> 00:52.385 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HOWARD LEE, FORMER STATE SENATOR 00:52.485 --> 00:56.456 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND FORMER CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION 00:56.556 --> 00:59.793 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% AND JOHN HOOD, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST AND AUTHOR. 00:59.893 --> 01:02.095 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% WE WILL BEGIN OUR UNINTERRUPTED DISCUSSION 01:02.195 --> 01:04.864 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AFTER THESE BRIEF MESSAGES FROM OUR UNDERWRITERS. 01:05.665 --> 01:07.400 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% IN MORE THAN 21 YEARS ON NC SPIN, 01:07.500 --> 01:09.736 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% I NEVER ENDORSED A PRODUCT OR SPONSORED 01:09.836 --> 01:13.573 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BUT I VOLUNTEERED TO DO THIS MESSAGE FOR FAMILY PHYSICIANS. 01:13.673 --> 01:15.008 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS, 01:15.108 --> 01:17.811 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MY FAMILY DOCTOR COULD QUICKLY DIAGNOSE MY ILLNESSES 01:17.911 --> 01:19.846 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% BECAUSE HE KNEW MY MEDICAL HISTORY. 01:19.946 --> 01:21.881 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% EVIDENCE SUGGESTS I'LL LIVE LONGER, 01:21.981 --> 01:23.383 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HAVE A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE 01:23.483 --> 01:26.019 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% AND SAVE 33% ON HEALTH CARE COSTS. 01:26.119 --> 01:27.754 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% I BELIEVE IN MY TRUSTED RELATIONSHIP 01:27.854 --> 01:29.489 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% WITH MY FAMILY PHYSICIAN. 01:29.589 --> 01:30.757 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - [ANNOUNCER] FAMILY PHYSICIANS, 01:30.857 --> 01:33.626 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% YOUR TRUSTED HEALTH CARE ADVISOR FOR LIFE. 01:36.329 --> 01:37.697 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% [UPBEAT MUSIC] 01:37.797 --> 01:39.599 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% - [ANNOUNCER] LIFE'S BUSY, BUT YOU'RE IN CONTROL. 01:39.699 --> 01:41.267 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% AS AN ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE MEMBER, 01:41.367 --> 01:43.036 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU HAVE ACCESS TO LOTS OF TOOLS 01:43.136 --> 01:45.839 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% TO HELP MANAGE YOUR HOME ENERGY USE AND BUDGET 01:45.939 --> 01:49.175 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% SO YOU CAN FOCUS ON WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT. 01:50.743 --> 01:52.879 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE WANT TO WELCOME NICK FUCHS 01:52.979 --> 01:55.548 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% BACK TO THE PRODUCER'S CHAIR OF OUR SHOW. 01:55.648 --> 01:56.649 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% WE'VE MISSED HIM. 01:56.749 --> 01:57.851 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% LET'S GET BEGIN THE SPIN. 01:57.951 --> 02:00.453 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% ON MAY 22ND NORTH CAROLINA ENTERED INTO PHASE TWO OF 02:00.553 --> 02:05.058 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% REOPENING. IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT 14 DAYS TO SEE THE 02:05.158 --> 02:07.627 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% EFFECTS OF THESE SMALL STEPS. 02:07.727 --> 02:10.130 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% OVER THE LAST WEEK WE SAW THOSE EFFECTS... 02:10.230 --> 02:12.398 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% A SURGE IN NUMBERS OF CASES, INCREASE IN THE 02:12.499 --> 02:15.335 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE TESTING POSITIVE AND A BIG 02:15.435 --> 02:17.770 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% JUMP IN THE NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS DUE TO 02:17.871 --> 02:19.072 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% COVID-19. 02:19.172 --> 02:21.641 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SECRETARY MANDY COHEN SAID 02:21.741 --> 02:24.844 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% OUR TRENDS WERE GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND WE 02:24.944 --> 02:27.313 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% NEEDED TO CONTINUE TO WORK TO KEEP FROM OVERWHELMING 02:27.413 --> 02:28.448 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. 02:29.048 --> 02:30.917 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% ANNA BEAVON, ONE OF THE BIG 02:31.017 --> 02:34.020 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% STORIES THIS WEEK WAS THAT THE ACE SPEEDWAY IN 02:34.120 --> 02:36.689 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% ALAMANCE COUNTY HAD A SECOND INSTANCE OF 02:36.789 --> 02:40.260 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% DISOBEYING EXECUTIVE ORDERS AND HAD 2,000 FANS 02:40.360 --> 02:42.162 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% AT A RACE LAST SATURDAY NIGHT. 02:42.262 --> 02:44.864 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% GOVERNOR COOPER SAID LOCAL AUTHORITIES WOULDN'T 02:44.964 --> 02:47.467 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% ENFORCE THE PHASE TWO ORDER AND HE DECLARED THE 02:47.567 --> 02:50.770 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SPEEDWAY AN IMMINENT DANGER AND ORDERED IT CLOSED. 02:50.870 --> 02:53.473 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% THE SPEEDWAY SAYS IT WON'T COMPLY. 02:53.573 --> 02:56.142 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% THE STATE HAS FILED FOR A TRO. 02:56.242 --> 02:59.245 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THE JUDGE GRANTED IT, YOUR REACTION TO ALL OF THIS? 03:00.079 --> 03:02.148 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> WELL THE BIG TAKE AWAY FROM ME IS THAT THE PEOPLE OF NORTH 03:02.248 --> 03:05.752 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CAROLINA ARE JUST TIRED. THEY ARE TIRED OF BEING TOLD TO SIT 03:05.852 --> 03:09.889 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND WAIT AND BE PATIENT, SIT AND WAIT AND BE PATIENT. AS 03:09.989 --> 03:13.693 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUSINESSES CONTINUE TO GO UNDER AND UNEMPLOYMENT CLIMBS AND IT 03:13.793 --> 03:15.728 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SORT OF JUST FEELS LIKE WE'RE PLAYING THE ROLE OF THE 03:15.828 --> 03:19.399 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% STEREOTYPICAL RESTRICTED HIGH SCHOOLER THAT THE MOMENT THEY 03:19.499 --> 03:23.036 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GET TO COLLEGE, THEY GO WILD WITH EXCITEMENT 03:23.136 --> 03:27.640 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND THE FREEDOM THAT EXISTS. AND IT TURNS OUT THAT IF THE 03:27.740 --> 03:30.843 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% GOVERNOR AND HIS ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO 03:30.944 --> 03:33.680 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TELL US TO SIT AND WAIT AND BE PATIENT, WE'RE GOING TO SEE 03:33.780 --> 03:36.216 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% MORE OF THIS. 03:36.316 --> 03:38.685 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> LIKE THE FELLOW SAID LORD GIVE ME PATIENCE AND I WANT IT 03:38.785 --> 03:42.622 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% RIGHT NOW. HOWARD THE SPEEDWAY OWNER SAID THAT COOPER'S 03:42.722 --> 03:46.492 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% EXECUTIVE ORDER WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL. JUDGE TOM 03:46.593 --> 03:51.164 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LAMBETH JR. DIDN'T APPEAR TO ADDRESS THAT CHARGE, BUT HE DID 03:51.264 --> 03:54.334 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ISSUE THE RESTRAINING ORDER AND SAY HE WOULD TAKE THIS ISSUE 03:54.434 --> 03:56.469 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% BACK UP JUNE 19TH. 03:56.569 --> 03:58.871 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS COULD BE A PRETTY IMPORTANT HEARING, COULDN'T IT? 03:58.972 --> 04:01.941 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% ISN'T GOING TO FOCUS ON THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF THE 04:02.041 --> 04:05.144 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% GOVERNOR TO ISSUE ORDERS? 04:05.245 --> 04:07.180 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I THINK IT POSSIBLY COULD. 04:07.280 --> 04:10.783 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% I DO THINK THE GOVERNOR IS ON SOLID GROUND. 04:10.883 --> 04:14.621 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% I THINK WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT SPEEDWAY IS WHAT I THOUGHT 04:14.721 --> 04:17.257 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SHOULD BE DONE ACROSS THE BOARD ANYWAY, IS THE GOVERNOR AND 04:17.357 --> 04:21.728 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HIS STAFF SET STANDARDS, EXPECT PEOPLE TO LIVE UP TO THOSE 04:21.828 --> 04:25.098 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% STANDARDS AND THEN LET THEM MAKE THE DECISION WITHIN THAT 04:25.198 --> 04:28.635 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GUIDELINE AND IF THEY DON'T, COME DOWN HARD ON THEM. 04:28.735 --> 04:30.903 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SO IN THE CASE OF THE SPEEDWAY 04:31.004 --> 04:32.105 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND I THINK THE 04:32.205 --> 04:34.307 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% GOVERNOR'S ON SOLID GROUND. BUT CERTAINLY THINK THAT 04:34.407 --> 04:37.910 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% HEARING IS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT DECISION FOR 04:38.011 --> 04:40.947 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SETTING THE STAGE FOR OUR FUTURE AND HOW GOVERNMENTS CAN BEHAVE. 04:41.047 --> 04:43.816 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> JOHN THE OWNERS OF THE SPEEDWAY SAID THEY WERE BEING 04:43.916 --> 04:46.085 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% SINGLED OUT. 04:46.185 --> 04:49.455 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE AND THAT OTHER PEOPLE WERE 04:49.555 --> 04:53.960 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CONDUCTING RACES AND BIG EVENTS AND SO FORTH LIKE THAT. 04:54.060 --> 04:58.331 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IS THIS EVIDENCE WE'RE SEEING ALAMANCE COUNTY WITH A BIG 04:58.431 --> 05:02.635 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SPIKE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES, THE NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS 05:02.735 --> 05:07.407 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REQUIRED, IS THIS EVIDENCE FROM THE RACE AND THEY HELD 2 WEEKS 05:07.507 --> 05:12.478 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% AGO, IS THIS GOING TO YIELD BIG SPIKES AGAIN? 05:12.578 --> 05:16.549 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I DOUBT IT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T DO IT THE FIRST TIME. THE SPIKES 05:16.649 --> 05:19.452 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DO NOT APPEAR TO BE RELATED TO THE RACING OF ALAMANCE 05:19.552 --> 05:24.090 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COUNTY. I THINK THAT THE BEST ARGUMENT THE RACETRACK 05:24.190 --> 05:27.493 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOLKS HAVE IS THE SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT ARGUMENT, THAT THEY 05:27.593 --> 05:31.364 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WERE TARGETED OTHER RACETRACKS INCLUDING THE NASCAR RACE, 05:31.464 --> 05:34.767 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE NASCAR RACE DID NOT HAVE A LARGE AUDIENCE, IT STILL HAD 05:34.867 --> 05:39.038 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TOGETHER IN AN OUTDOOR VENUE WHICH IS 05:39.138 --> 05:42.208 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% LIKE APPARENT VIOLATION OF THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER. AND YET IT 05:42.308 --> 05:46.079 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% WAS DONE IN CONJUNCTION IN NEGOTIATION WITH THE 05:46.179 --> 05:49.082 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ADMINISTRATION. I THINK THAT IS THE VULNERABILITY PROBABLY NOT 05:49.182 --> 05:51.417 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE CONSTITUTIONAL ARGUMENT AT THIS MOMENT, BUT IT'S A 05:51.517 --> 05:54.420 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT ARGUMENT THAT IF ANYTHING WERE TO 05:54.520 --> 05:55.755 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PREVAIL IT WOULD BE THAT ONE. 05:55.855 --> 05:58.358 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> FOLLOWING UP ON THAT CHRIS DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE GOING TO 05:58.458 --> 06:03.262 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SEE THE SAME KIND OF ORDERS BEING ISSUED OTHER SPEEDWAYS 06:03.363 --> 06:07.300 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% AND OTHER VENUES. PEOPLE DISOBEYING THE EXECUTIVE 06:07.400 --> 06:08.568 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% ORDERS. 06:08.668 --> 06:10.770 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> WELL, I GUESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE I THINK PART OF 06:10.870 --> 06:14.707 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE CHALLENGE HERE AS A BED AND SAID ARE EXAMPLES LIKE THE 06:14.807 --> 06:17.910 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PEOPLE ON SPRING WHAT PEOPLE GET GOING TO THE UNIVERSITY OR 06:18.010 --> 06:20.646 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PEOPLE GOING TO COLLEGE AND WANTED TO BE FREE AND ALL THAT 06:20.747 --> 06:23.082 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% THE ONLY PROBLEM IS WE'RE DEALING WITH A DEADLY 06:23.182 --> 06:25.952 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% INFECTIOUS DISEASE. WE HAVE RECORD NUMBERS OF 06:26.052 --> 06:28.921 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HOSPITALIZATIONS FOR SEVERAL DAYS IN A ROW, AND WHAT'S SO 06:29.021 --> 06:31.657 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STUNNING TO ME AND WHILE THAT'S ALL GOING ON WE'RE DEBATING ALL 06:31.758 --> 06:34.627 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THIS SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE WHO DEMAND THAT WE HAVE NO 06:34.727 --> 06:38.398 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% RESTRICTIONS OR DEMAND THAT WE OPEN, REFUSED TO WEAR MASKS TO 06:38.498 --> 06:41.033 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE WHICH IS THE SINGLE NOW MOST IMPORTANT 06:41.134 --> 06:44.003 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THING WE CAN DO. THIS IS EVEN SPREAD PRIMARILY THROUGH 06:44.103 --> 06:46.406 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PERSONAL CONTACTS. YOU PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE BY WEARING MASKS WE 06:46.506 --> 06:50.810 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAVE LEADERS AND ADVOCATES WHO ARE THING WE NEED TO OPEN 06:50.910 --> 06:53.546 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUSINESSES THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WILL IF WE'RE GOING TO DO 06:53.646 --> 06:56.449 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IT FOR GOODNESS SAKES WHY CAN'T WE DO IT SAFELY? I'M STILL 06:56.549 --> 06:59.152 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PERPLEXED THAT WE SEE PICTURES AND IMAGES ALL OVER 06:59.252 --> 07:01.821 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE PLACE OF PEOPLE BESIDE EACH OTHER THEY THINK SOMEHOW IT'S 07:01.921 --> 07:04.690 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% NOT MANLY TO WEAR A MASK TO PROTECT YOUR NEIGHBOR. 07:04.791 --> 07:07.660 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> ANNA BEAVON THIS WAS NOT THE ONLY RESTRAINING ORDER THAT WAS 07:07.760 --> 07:12.198 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SOUGHT THIS PAST WEEK, SEVERAL OWNERS OF GYMS TRIED TO GET A 07:12.298 --> 07:16.502 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% RESTRAINING ORDER TO KEEP UP A GOVERNOR COOPER FROM REFUSING 07:16.602 --> 07:21.140 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO LET THEM OPEN. AND THE JUDGE WOULD NOT GRANT THAT 07:21.240 --> 07:25.778 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% RESTRAINING ORDER IN THE MEANTIME THE LEGISLATURE 07:25.878 --> 07:31.751 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PASSED A BILL WHICH SAID GYMS AND BARS COULD OPEN. IT'S 07:31.851 --> 07:35.421 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SITTING ON GOVERNOR COOPER'S DESK. THEY DIDN'T WRITE OR TO 07:35.521 --> 07:38.291 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% OVERRIDE THE VETO. THE FIRST TIME AROUND WHEN GOVERNOR 07:38.391 --> 07:42.995 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% COOPER VETOED IT ARE THEY GOING TO OVERRIDE THIS BILL FROM HIS 07:43.095 --> 07:45.465 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THE DETAILER GOING TO TEMPT OVERRIDE IT. 07:45.565 --> 07:46.866 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I THINK THEY'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO 07:46.966 --> 07:48.501 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ATTEMPT TO OVERRIDE THIS ONE, 07:48.601 --> 07:51.671 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% I THINK THE FIRST ONE WAS A CHANCE FOR THE GOVERNOR TO 07:51.771 --> 07:54.273 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PLAY NICE WITH THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY 07:54.373 --> 07:57.910 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO PLAY NICE WITH THE GOVERNOR. WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING MORE 07:58.010 --> 08:01.113 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF NORTH CAROLINA BACK TO WORK. BUT I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE 08:01.214 --> 08:04.317 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ONE OF THOSE TIMES WHERE THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY US GOING 08:04.417 --> 08:06.452 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% MAKE THIS A REALITY. 08:06.552 --> 08:09.689 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> HOWARD YOU SAT IN THAT CHAMBER FOR MANY YEARS. CAN THEY 08:09.789 --> 08:13.092 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GET THE 3/5THS VOTE THAT THEY NEED TO OVERRIDE THE VETO IN 08:13.192 --> 08:15.194 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% BOTH HOUSES? 08:15.294 --> 08:18.431 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I DON'T THINK SO AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WILL BE A SMART 08:18.531 --> 08:22.835 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THING TO DO. YOU CAN QUESTION THE SYSTEM THE GOVERNOR IS 08:22.935 --> 08:26.172 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% USING IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING THESE DECISIONS. BUT AT THE 08:26.272 --> 08:30.810 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SAME TIME AS CHRIS SAID THIS IS A VERY DEADLY DISEASE. AND I'M 08:30.910 --> 08:33.980 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% JUST DISAPPOINTED THAT MANY OF THE INFLUENTIAL LEADERS DON'T 08:34.080 --> 08:38.117 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THEMSELVES EVEN WEAR THE MASK TO PROTECT THEMSELVES. SO WHEN 08:38.217 --> 08:41.153 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I LOOK AT THE LEGISLATIVE CHAMBER, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT 08:41.254 --> 08:44.724 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THEY'RE GOING TO BE A CLOSE CALL. IF I WAS SITTING THERE I 08:44.824 --> 08:47.660 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WOULD NOT VOTE TO OVERRIDE. I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT 08:47.760 --> 08:50.329 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% PEOPLE'S HEALTH THAN IT IS TO TRY 08:50.429 --> 08:52.965 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% AND OVERRIDE A VETO AT THIS POINT. 08:53.065 --> 08:55.935 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> BUT THEY HAD SOME DEMOCRATS VOTES IN PASSING THIS 08:56.035 --> 08:58.671 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% INITIATION TO BEGIN WITH DIDN'T THEY JOHN? 08:58.771 --> 09:01.841 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THEY DID. IN FACT I THINK THE I WOULD BE OVER IN THE SENATE 09:01.941 --> 09:04.677 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% JUST A QUESTION OF WHETHER WILL BE OVERRIDDEN IN THE HOUSE. 09:04.777 --> 09:06.045 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% I THINK IT'S AT LEAST CONCEIVABLE THAT 09:06.145 --> 09:07.980 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% IT COULD BE OVERRIDDEN. 09:08.080 --> 09:12.552 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THIS REVISED LEGISLATION ALLOWS THE GOVERNOR TO REENACT 09:12.652 --> 09:16.122 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THIS TIME I HOPE ACTUALLY THE LAW WOULD MAKE IT CLEARER THAT 09:16.222 --> 09:19.492 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HE WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ORIGINAL STATUTE WHICH INVOLVES 09:19.592 --> 09:21.761 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% COUNCIL STATE APPROVAL. 09:21.861 --> 09:25.765 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BUT I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT 09:25.865 --> 09:28.434 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LEVELS OF RISK PREFERENCE, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS 09:28.534 --> 09:32.004 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% OF THE DATA, THE RIGHT OF POSITIVE TESTS HAS 09:32.104 --> 09:35.308 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BEEN ABOUT BUT IT'S BOUNCING AROUND TO 18% SINCE THE 09:35.408 --> 09:37.577 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% REOPENING AND IN MAY 22ND. 09:37.677 --> 09:41.380 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND THE EVIDENCE OF THE HOSPITALIZATIONS IS ACTUALLY 09:41.480 --> 09:42.715 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% RATHER MONEY 09:42.815 --> 09:45.051 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BECAUSE WE ARE IN FACT HAVING MORE PEOPLE GOING TO THE 09:45.151 --> 09:47.787 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% HOSPITALS TO HAVE OTHER CONDITIONS ADDRESSED AND 09:47.887 --> 09:50.489 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SURGERIES THAT WERE DEFERRED HAVE OTHER THINGS AND YES, 09:50.590 --> 09:53.526 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY'RE ALL BEING TESTED SO WE'RE INTERESTED IN IS HOW MANY 09:53.626 --> 09:56.963 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PEOPLE WERE HOSPITALIZED BECAUSE THEY HAD COVID GIVEN 09:57.063 --> 09:59.298 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE FACT THAT THE OTHER METRIC THAT THE STATE HAS BEEN 09:59.398 --> 10:02.501 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TRACKING WHICH IS THE SHERIFF EMERGENCY ROOM ADMISSIONS HAVE 10:02.602 --> 10:05.671 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO HAVE COVID HAS NOT BEEN GOING UP THAT SUGGESTS THAT THE 10:05.771 --> 10:08.941 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% STATE ARE MORE COMPLICATED. THEY THEY REQUIRE MORE 10:09.041 --> 10:12.211 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% CAREFUL CONSIDERATION. BUT FRANKLY, EITHER SIDE IS 10:12.311 --> 10:15.848 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CURRENTLY THE POLITICAL THE POLITICIZATION OF THIS MOMENT I 10:15.948 --> 10:17.049 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% THINK IS MISTAKEN. 10:17.149 --> 10:20.453 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WELL IT IS HIGHLY POLITICIZED IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. 10:20.553 --> 10:23.055 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CHRIS THE LEGISLATURE PASSED BILL AND PUT IT ON THE 10:23.155 --> 10:27.893 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SENATE TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK. THAT WOULD REQUIRE HOSPITALS TO 10:27.994 --> 10:32.064 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ALLOW AT LEAST ONE FAMILY MEMBER TO VISIT PEOPLE WHO ARE 10:32.164 --> 10:37.003 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HOSPITALIZED. THE RULING OF COURSE HAD BEEN WITH NURSING 10:37.103 --> 10:40.840 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% HOMES AND WITH OTHER. THE CONGREGATE CARE KINDS OF 10:40.940 --> 10:44.310 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FACILITIES THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW PEOPLE TO COME IN AND VISIT 10:44.410 --> 10:48.014 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% IS COOPER GOING TO VETO THIS BILL? 10:48.114 --> 10:50.850 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I'M NOT SURE BUT I CONTINUE TO BE SURPRISED THAT 10:50.950 --> 10:53.285 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PEOPLE IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY BELIEVE THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT 10:53.386 --> 10:56.956 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HOSPITAL ADMISSION POLICY, INFECTION RATES AND DISEASE THAN 10:57.056 --> 11:00.426 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE PEOPLE WHO RUN HOSPITALS AND THE PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS, 11:00.526 --> 11:02.061 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AND I THINK, I SAY THIS EVERY WEEK, THE ELEPHANT IN 11:02.161 --> 11:05.297 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE ROOM HERE, IS WHEN THE LAST TIME WE HEARD FROM DOCTOR FAUCI 11:05.398 --> 11:09.201 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THE CDC, NATIONAL MESSAGING, WE ARE LITERALLY LEADER-LESS 11:09.301 --> 11:11.837 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IN THIS COUNTRY. AND SO WE'RE TURNING TO GOVERNORS. 11:11.937 --> 11:14.440 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% ARIZONA'S HOSPITALIZATION RATE IS GOING 11:14.540 --> 11:17.677 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THROUGH THE ROOF, THE VIRUS IS MOVING INTO THE SOUTH AND 11:17.777 --> 11:20.913 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE WEST, THE DATA IS PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT THAT. AND YET WE'RE 11:21.013 --> 11:23.716 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ALL WE'RE ARGUING ABOUT BARS AND RESTAURANTS WHICH I 11:23.816 --> 11:25.951 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE STRUGGLING. I HOPE THAT THEY 11:26.052 --> 11:28.220 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOT RELIEF FROM THE LOAN PROGRAM, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE 11:28.320 --> 11:31.290 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% DETAILS OF WHO RELEASED THAT. WE'RE LIVING IN A VACUUMLESS, 11:31.390 --> 11:34.460 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A LEADER-LESS TIME AND WERE ALL FLAILING ABOUT WHILE WE 11:34.560 --> 11:37.363 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HAVE AN INFECTIOUS DISEASE ON THE RISE. IT'S FRANKLY STUNNING. 11:37.463 --> 11:40.833 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> AND AND ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT IS THE CONTROVERSY 11:40.933 --> 11:44.270 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SURROUNDING THE GOP CONVENTION. THEY ANNOUNCED THIS WEEK THAT 11:44.370 --> 11:48.741 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE CONVENTION - THE BIG RALLY FOR THE CONVENTION WOULD BE 11:48.841 --> 11:53.713 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HELD IN FLORIDA. AFTER THE DUST HAS SETTLED A LITTLE BIT HERE, 11:53.813 --> 11:56.782 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WE'VE GOT A 1000 NEW CASES EVERY DAY, WE'VE GOT RECORD 11:56.882 --> 12:01.987 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% NUMBERS OF PEOPLE IN HOSPITALS DUE TO COVID-19 ACCORDING TO 12:02.088 --> 12:07.126 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SECRETARY COHEN AND SO THE QUESTION IS REGARDING THIS GOP 12:07.226 --> 12:11.430 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% CONVENTION WHO WON TRUMP OR COOPER? 12:11.530 --> 12:13.265 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% I'M GOING TO ASK EVERYBODY. JOHN? 12:13.365 --> 12:16.502 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> COOPER GOT WHAT HE WANTED HE DIDN'T WANT THE CONVENTION SO 12:16.602 --> 12:19.505 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AGAIN HE GOT WHAT HE WANTED. HE GOT THAT. I THINK THAT IN THE 12:19.605 --> 12:22.675 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% LONG RUN IT WILL HURT HIM HE'S BASICALLY SAYING RALLY IF I 12:22.775 --> 12:25.177 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% AGREE WITH YOU THAT'S OK. 12:25.277 --> 12:28.481 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% RALLY AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TOGETHER RALLY THAT'S OKAY. 12:28.581 --> 12:30.783 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BUT IF I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU CAN'T HAVE A RALLY. REMEMBER 12:30.883 --> 12:33.519 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THIS IS - THIS LARGE EVENT THAT'S GOING TO BE HELD WILL 12:33.619 --> 12:36.756 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% PROBABLY BE OUTSIDE IN JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA. 12:36.856 --> 12:38.591 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% I THINK THAT I COULD'VE WORKED THAT OUT. 12:38.691 --> 12:42.027 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THEY'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT DOING INSIDE IN AN ARENA. 12:42.128 --> 12:43.329 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> [JOHN] EVEN THEN -- 12:43.429 --> 12:46.465 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TRUMP IS HAVING A RALLY IN TULSA FRIDAY NIGHT WITH 19,000 12:46.565 --> 12:49.769 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PEOPLE IN AN ARENA, HE'S ASKED THEM TO SIGN SOMETHING SAYING -- 12:49.869 --> 12:52.004 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> [TOM] THEY GOTTA SIGN A WAIVER! 12:52.104 --> 12:54.073 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> THEY HAVE TO SIGN A WAIVER THAT'S WHAT COOPER DOESN'T WANT 12:54.173 --> 12:57.109 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% IN NORTH CAROLINA IS 19,000 PEOPLE INSIDE THE BUILDING 12:57.209 --> 12:59.512 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND THEN GOING AROUND TO THE REST OF THE STATE. 12:59.612 --> 13:02.615 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> THEY SHOULD'VE WORKED IT OUT TO DO THIS BIG CORONATION 13:02.715 --> 13:05.284 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% EVENT OUTSIDE, THAT'S MY OPINION. 13:05.384 --> 13:06.786 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE WAS NEGOTIATING 13:06.886 --> 13:08.487 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% WITH THE RNC AND TRUMP INTERVENED WITH 13:08.587 --> 13:11.957 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A TWEET BLAMING GOVERNOR COOPER. COOPER AND PUBLIC HEALTH WON 13:12.057 --> 13:12.825 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% THAT'S WHO WON. 13:12.925 --> 13:16.195 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> ALL RIGHT SO. COOPER, WON CHRIS. 13:16.295 --> 13:17.296 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% HOWARD WHO WON? 13:17.396 --> 13:19.498 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >> I THINK WE WON AS NORTH CAROLINIANS 13:19.598 --> 13:21.934 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE 19,000 PEOPLE SHOULDER TO 13:22.034 --> 13:23.969 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% SHOULDER IN AN ARENA IN A PANDEMIC. 13:24.069 --> 13:26.505 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% >> ALL RIGHT HOWARD TRUMP OR COOPER? 13:26.605 --> 13:30.075 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THE PEOPLE OF NORTH CAROLINA WON BECAUSE 13:30.176 --> 13:31.877 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I'VE BEEN VERY NERVOUS ABOUT THIS CONVENTION AND THAT NUMBER 13:31.977 --> 13:36.415 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OF PEOPLE BEING HELD IN AN ARENA, AND I THINK THE CHANCES 13:36.515 --> 13:38.984 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% OF SPREADING THE DISEASE IN THIS STATE, IT'S GETTING MORE 13:39.084 --> 13:43.756 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND MORE POSSIBLE ALL ALONG. I JUST DISAGREE WITH 13:43.856 --> 13:45.791 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THINKING THAT WE CAN HOLD THE CONVENTION AND THAT'S MORE 13:45.891 --> 13:47.827 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% IMPORTANT THAN PROTECTING PEOPLE'S HEALTH. 13:47.927 --> 13:50.196 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SO I GIVE IT TO THE PEOPLE IN NORTH CAROLINA 13:50.296 --> 13:52.131 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% AND PARTIALLY TO COOPER. 13:52.231 --> 13:53.666 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> ANNA BEAVON WHO WON? 13:53.766 --> 13:56.135 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> I THINK THEY'RE BOTH GOING TO CLAIM VICTORY HERE. 13:56.235 --> 13:57.436 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% THEY'RE STILL DISCUSSION OF HAVING THE 13:57.536 --> 14:01.607 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUSINESS SESSION IN CHARLOTTE. SO SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS WILL 14:01.707 --> 14:05.678 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% STILL HOLD. BUT TRUMP HIMSELF WILL NOT BE HERE SO HE WILL 14:05.778 --> 14:06.912 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% CLAIM VICTORY. 14:07.012 --> 14:09.682 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> BUT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION COMMITTEE HAS 14:09.782 --> 14:14.286 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LIMITED EVERY STATE TO HAVING 6 DELEGATES. SO 14:14.386 --> 14:17.022 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE HONORING THE LETTER OF THE LAW 14:17.122 --> 14:18.791 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% ON SOME OF THESE CONTRACTS. 14:18.891 --> 14:21.493 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CHARLOTTE'S NOT GOING TO SEE SUCH A BIG ECONOMIC 14:21.594 --> 14:23.929 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. ABSOLUTELY NOT. 14:24.029 --> 14:26.332 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THEY LOST IN THIS WHOLE STORY. 14:26.432 --> 14:28.767 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> LET'S SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT. MOST EVERYBODY IN NORTH 14:28.868 --> 14:32.671 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CAROLINA AGREES NORTH CAROLINA'S 1.6 MILLION K TO 12 14:32.771 --> 14:36.275 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GRADE SCHOOL CHILDREN NEED TO RETURN TO CLASS. NOW THE BIG 14:36.375 --> 14:39.311 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% QUESTION IS HOW TO DO IT SAFELY. THIS WEEK WE'VE GOT 14:39.411 --> 14:42.314 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SOME GUIDELINES AS TO HOW THAT MIGHT HAPPEN. THE DEPARTMENT OF 14:42.414 --> 14:44.516 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC 14:44.617 --> 14:47.686 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% INSTRUCTION, THE STATE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF ISSUED WHAT THEY 14:47.786 --> 14:53.025 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CALLED LIGHTING THE WAY FORWARD. THIS PLAN HAS 3 PHASES RANGING 14:53.125 --> 14:57.763 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% FROM MINIMAL SOCIAL DISTANCING MODERATE SOCIAL DISTANCING AND 14:57.863 --> 15:02.134 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A RETURN TO ONLINE INSTRUCTION. THE DECISION AS TO WHICH PHASE 15:02.234 --> 15:05.304 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% IS SELECTED WILL DEPEND ON HOW NORTH CAROLINA'S MANAGING 15:05.404 --> 15:08.374 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% COVID-19. HOWARD LEE YOU WERE CHAIRMAN OF OUR STATE BOARD OF 15:08.474 --> 15:11.477 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% EDUCATION AND YOU CONTINUE TO WORK WITH SCHOOL CHILDREN 15:11.577 --> 15:15.314 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ACROSS OUR STATE. SECRETARY COHEN SAYS WHILE YOUNG CHILDREN 15:15.414 --> 15:19.018 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CAN CERTAINLY BE INFECTED, THEY DON'T SEEM AS SUSCEPTIBLE 15:19.118 --> 15:22.254 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AS OLDER PEOPLE. AND WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF 15:22.354 --> 15:25.557 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THIS PLAN, BUT I WANT TO HEAR YOUR REACTION TO THE LIGHT THE 15:25.658 --> 15:28.294 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% WAY FORWARD PLAN. 15:28.394 --> 15:32.097 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> WELL, I LOVE THE SLOGANS THAT PEOPLE THROW OUT THESE DAYS. 15:32.197 --> 15:36.101 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I THINK THE GUIDELINES ARE FAIRLY CLEAR AND CERTAINLY GIVE 15:36.201 --> 15:39.571 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AN INDICATION OF WHAT POSSIBLE DIRECTIONS WE CAN GO. 15:39.672 --> 15:43.108 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% I LIKE THE THOUGHT THAT THEY WILL LISTEN TO THE GOVERNOR 15:43.208 --> 15:47.146 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BY JULY 1, TO DETERMINE IF THE CONDITIONS ARE SUCH THAT 15:47.246 --> 15:51.216 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THEY CAN PROCEED FORWARD. I DO SEE SOME REAL POSITIVES IN 15:51.317 --> 15:55.120 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE GUIDELINES WOULD THINK THAT KIDS CAN BE MANAGED 15:55.220 --> 15:57.790 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SAFELY IN THE CLASSROOM AND I'M DELIGHTED THAT WE'RE MOVING IN 15:57.890 --> 16:00.793 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT DIRECTION, BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE IN 16:00.893 --> 16:04.830 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SPITE OF THAT WE STILL HAVE ONE CHILD A AND OTHERS 16:04.930 --> 16:08.467 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% COULD CONTRACT THE DISEASE AND WE CAN HAVE OTHER DEATHS 16:08.567 --> 16:09.902 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BY PUTTING THEM ALL TOGETHER. 16:10.002 --> 16:13.005 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> ALL RIGHT SO THE BASICS OF THE PLAN IS MINIMAL SOCIAL 16:13.105 --> 16:15.941 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% DISTANCING, WHICH MEANS ESSENTIALLY, 16:16.041 --> 16:17.743 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% KIDS GO BACK TO SCHOOL THE WAY THEY WERE 16:17.843 --> 16:20.779 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BEFORE THE PANDEMIC HIT. THE MODERATE OR 16:20.879 --> 16:24.950 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PLAN B IS A MODERATE SOCIAL DISTANCING WHICH WOULD REQUIRE 16:25.050 --> 16:29.088 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SOME SEPARATIONS 6 FEET SEPARATIONS AND VARIOUS THINGS 16:29.188 --> 16:32.458 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% LIKE THAT. AND THEN THE 3RD OPTION IS WE JUST GO BACK TO 16:32.558 --> 16:35.361 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ONLINE LEARNING, WHICH I THINK IS THE LEAST PALATABLE FOR 16:35.461 --> 16:36.729 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% EVERYBODY. 16:36.829 --> 16:40.366 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% GOVERNOR COOPER GETS TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND HE SUPPOSED 16:40.466 --> 16:43.969 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO MAKE IT BY JULY 1ST THAT'S 2 WEEKS FROM NOW JOHN. WHAT ARE WE 16:44.069 --> 16:47.006 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% GOING TO KNOW THEN THAT WE DON'T KNOW NOW? 16:47.106 --> 16:49.408 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I'M NOT SURE THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE CHANGED THEIR VIEWS 16:49.508 --> 16:52.044 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ONE WAY THE OTHER VERY MUCH ON THIS. TOM, I THINK YOU'RE 16:52.144 --> 16:55.214 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% BEING CHARITABLE VERY CHAIRITABLE. PLAN A 16:55.314 --> 16:58.217 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IS NOT MINIMAL, WHATEVER TERM THEY WANT TO DESCRIBE IT 16:58.317 --> 17:01.887 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAS LOTS OF REQUIREMENTS IN IT, I THINK IT IS LIKELY TO 17:01.987 --> 17:06.859 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BE IMPRACTICAL JUST PLAN A. PLAN B INVOLVES PROBABLY ALTERNATING 17:06.959 --> 17:10.229 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% BETWEEN DAY SO STUDENTS WOULD GO TO SCHOOL ON MONDAY 17:10.329 --> 17:11.864 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% AND NOT ON TUESDAY. 17:11.964 --> 17:14.299 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% I THINK THEY WILL ALSO FIND THAT IN PRACTICAL 17:14.400 --> 17:15.834 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% I UNDERSTAND THAT THE MOTIVATION, 17:15.934 --> 17:18.771 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THIS IS AS HOWARD SAID IT'S A CHALLENGING TOPIC. 17:18.871 --> 17:21.573 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE VERY REALISTIC ABOUT WHAT 17:21.673 --> 17:24.777 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN A SCHOOL SOMETIMES IN SOME PARTS OF THE 17:24.877 --> 17:27.646 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% STATE OVER ALREADY IN AN OVERCROWDED SCHOOL 17:27.746 --> 17:31.550 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WITH LOTS OF KIDS COMING IN WHO ARE NOT KNOWN FOR FOLLOWING, 17:31.650 --> 17:34.286 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% YOU KNOW, SECOND GRADERS ARE NOT KNOWN FOR FOLLOWING 17:34.386 --> 17:36.321 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% INSTRUCTIONS EASILY. 17:36.422 --> 17:39.158 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WE HAVE TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IS REALISTIC HERE. IT IS 17:39.258 --> 17:42.928 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ALSO NOT REALISTIC TO HAVE SEMESTER AT HOME AGAIN. I THINK 17:43.028 --> 17:45.697 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% YOU'LL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT REBELLION AGAINST THAT. 17:45.798 --> 17:47.833 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT. ANNA BEAVON, YOU COME 17:47.933 --> 17:50.636 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% FROM A FAMILY OF EDUCATORS THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE 17:50.736 --> 17:53.806 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SUGGESTING WAIT A MINUTE THIS SHOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE A 17:53.906 --> 17:56.975 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% STATEWIDE DECISION ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS. WE OUGHT TO 17:57.076 --> 18:00.612 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TURN THIS OVER TO THE LEA'S LOCAL EDUCATION AUTHORITIES IN 18:00.712 --> 18:06.118 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% EACH COUNTY TO LET THEM DECIDE ON A PLAN A, PLAN B, PLAN C. 18:06.218 --> 18:07.419 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT. 18:07.519 --> 18:10.322 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> I DEFINITELY THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GO. NOT EVERY 18:10.422 --> 18:14.126 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PART OF THE STATE HAS BEEN IMPACTED THE SAME WAY BY COVID 18:14.226 --> 18:19.131 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% AND GIVING SCHOOLS THE OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ABLE TO 18:19.231 --> 18:22.734 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS BEST FOR THEN WE'LL REALLY ENSURE 18:22.835 --> 18:25.437 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF SUCCESS. THE PART THAT WAS INTERESTING 18:25.537 --> 18:30.042 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO ME ABOUT THE PLAN IS THAT, OR THE PROPOSAL IS THAT PLAN B 18:30.142 --> 18:34.346 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WAS THE ONE THAT HAD THE MOST ENERGY PUT INTO THE SOLUTIONS 18:34.446 --> 18:37.182 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% THAT HAVE THE GREATEST RANGE OF ALTERNATIVES 18:37.282 --> 18:40.252 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% WHERE I REALLY THINK THAT DISTANCE-LEARNING OR ONLINE 18:40.352 --> 18:45.057 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% LEARNING IS GOING TO BE WAY MORE IMPACTFUL MOVING FORWARD 18:45.157 --> 18:47.259 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND THERE REALLY JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF SOLUTIONS 18:47.359 --> 18:48.794 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% TO FIX THAT. >> THAT IS THE LEAST PALATABLE 18:48.894 --> 18:50.963 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OF ALL THE SOLUTIONS TO EVERYBODY I THINK. 18:51.063 --> 18:52.698 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> [ANNA] OH FOR SURE. YES. 18:52.798 --> 18:55.167 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% WE WANT TO GET OUR KIDS BACK IN CLASSROOMS. 18:55.267 --> 18:57.503 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% CHRIS ARE A LOT OF PARENTS ARE SAYING 18:57.603 --> 18:59.905 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% YOU KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SIT AND WATCH THIS. 19:00.005 --> 19:02.441 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THEY ARE UPSET BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED 19:02.541 --> 19:06.044 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% STUDENTS AND TEACHERS AND PERSONNEL WERE NOT REQUIRED TO 19:06.145 --> 19:10.048 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WEAR FACE COVERINGS AND THEY'RE SAYING WE WANT TO WAIT AND SEE 19:10.149 --> 19:13.185 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% HOW WE THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE -- WHAT HAPPENS 19:13.285 --> 19:15.854 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IF A LARGE NUMBER OF PARENTS JUST REFUSED TO SEND THEIR KIDS 19:15.954 --> 19:17.523 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% BACK TO SCHOOL? 19:17.623 --> 19:20.292 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> WELL I THINK THAT COULD HAPPEN IN SOME AREAS, I THINK 19:20.392 --> 19:22.427 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO BE SO CAREFUL AND MAKE SURE THAT 19:22.528 --> 19:25.764 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE RISKS, UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PLANS ARE, I 19:25.864 --> 19:29.501 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% DO THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SOME VERSION OF COMING AND GOING 19:29.601 --> 19:31.670 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BACK TO SCHOOL. I DON'T THINK ANYBODY THINKS IT'S GOING TO BE 19:31.770 --> 19:35.007 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% ONLINE ONLY UNLESS THINGS GET MUCH WORSE 19:35.107 --> 19:37.242 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% WHICH I HOPE THEY DON'T BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST. 19:37.342 --> 19:38.977 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% THE HARD PART OF COURSE 19:39.077 --> 19:40.479 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% IS THERE'S NOT ONLY CHILDREN IN SCHOOL 19:40.579 --> 19:42.281 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% THERE ARE STAFF MEMBERS. 19:42.381 --> 19:43.949 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THERE ARE TEACHERS WHO ARE OVER THAN 60 19:44.049 --> 19:47.886 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YEARS OLD, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HEALTH MALADIES THAT 19:47.986 --> 19:50.822 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MAKE THEM MORE AT RISK, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT HOW WE 19:50.923 --> 19:55.160 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WE STAFF A SCHOOL SAFELY DURING THIS PANDEMIC. IT'S NOT 19:55.260 --> 19:57.629 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% SOMETHING WE CAN'T OVERCOME, BUT I THINK THAT ONE OF THE PRIMARY 19:57.729 --> 20:01.900 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% RISKS. THE PEOPLE AT RISK HERE ARE THE ADULTS IN THE SCHOOL. 20:02.000 --> 20:05.871 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> HOWARD, LET'S LOOK AT THIS THING FROM A TODAY PERSPECTIVE. 20:05.971 --> 20:08.574 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IF THE GOVERNOR HAD TO MAKE THIS DECISION TODAY,I THINK HE'D 20:08.674 --> 20:13.612 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAVE A HARD TIME ADOPTING PLAN A WHICH IS THE MINIMAL KIND OF 20:13.712 --> 20:17.115 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OPENING AND CERTAINLY NOBODY WANTS TO GO TO PLAN C WHICH IS 20:17.216 --> 20:23.522 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% GOING BACK TO ONLINE LEARNING. THE QUESTION HERE IS IF WE HAVE 20:23.622 --> 20:27.826 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO GO TO THE PLAN B WHICH INCLUDES PERHAPS CHILDREN GOING 20:27.926 --> 20:31.430 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TO SCHOOL HALF A DAY IN STAYING HOME HALF A DAY, YOU'RE GOING 20:31.530 --> 20:34.132 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ONE DAY IN STAYING HOME THE OTHER THIS IS GOING TO PUT AN 20:34.233 --> 20:38.470 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% INCREDIBLE HARDSHIP ON PARENTS WHO HAVE TO WORK ISN'T IT? 20:38.570 --> 20:43.842 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> IT WILL AND OF COURSE I FIND PLAN B TO BE THE MOST 20:43.942 --> 20:48.814 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ACCEPTABLE. BUT YET THE MOST DIFFICULT TO MANAGE, BUT IT HAS 20:48.914 --> 20:53.151 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BEEN DONE BEFORE WE HAVE HAD A PRESSURE THAT HAD US GO TO 20:53.252 --> 20:56.255 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% HALF DAY SCHOOLS WITH KIDS COMING IN THE MORNING, 20:56.355 --> 20:58.657 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THEN ANOTHER GROUP COMING IN THE AFTERNOON. 20:58.757 --> 21:00.325 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SO WE COULD MAKE IT WORK AND 21:00.425 --> 21:03.328 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CERTAINLY I THINK IT WOULD BE THE SAFEST. BUT I'M ALSO 21:03.428 --> 21:07.332 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% CONCERNED ABOUT THE BEING ABLE TO TRANSPORT KIDS, 21:07.432 --> 21:09.468 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% 10 AND 20 KIDS ON THE BUS. 21:09.568 --> 21:11.370 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WHICH I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE. 21:11.470 --> 21:12.404 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% >> WELL NOT ONLY THAT, 21:12.504 --> 21:14.773 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% BUT THE LEGISLATURE THIS PAST WEEK, G JOHN 21:14.873 --> 21:16.875 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% PASSED A BILL IN WHICH THEY 21:16.975 --> 21:21.747 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% ROBBED THE FUND FOR BUS REPLACEMENTS AND REPAIRS 21:21.847 --> 21:25.717 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HELP SHORE UP BUDGET SOMEWHERE ELSE. 21:25.817 --> 21:27.853 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% IS THIS GOING TO BE ANOTHER BILL THAT GOVERNOR COOPER'S 21:27.953 --> 21:29.021 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% GOING TO VETO? 21:29.121 --> 21:32.958 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. IS VERY CLEAR THAT 21:33.058 --> 21:35.927 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT WE WILL NOT BE SPENDING ON CAPITAL THE WAY PEOPLE 21:36.028 --> 21:38.397 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% ANTICIPATED THAT INCLUDES SCHOOL BUILDING BECAUSE WE HAD 21:38.497 --> 21:43.802 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN UPCOMING BUDGET DEFICITS AND EVEN 21:43.902 --> 21:47.806 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WITHOUT REPLACING SCHOOL BUSES WHICH IS WHAT THAT FUND IS FOR 21:47.906 --> 21:52.044 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AS HOWARD SAYS PLAN A AND FACT FORGET PLANT BEFORE SECOND 21:52.144 --> 21:55.514 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WHICH ACTUALLY DON'T THINK LAB PLAN WOULD REQUIRE SOME 21:55.614 --> 21:58.750 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ADDITIONAL EXPENSE PERHAPS A LOT OF ADDITIONAL EXPENSE. 21:58.850 --> 22:00.719 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> AND ONE OF THOSE ADDITIONAL EXPENSES 22:00.819 --> 22:05.891 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IS TEACHERS AND NURSES IN EVERY SCHOOL FOR SCHOOLS THAT 22:05.991 --> 22:09.761 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% ARE ALREADY COMPLAINING ABOUT NOT HAVING FUNDING AND WITH 22:09.861 --> 22:13.432 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% US WITH A TEACHER SHORTAGE CHRIS, THIS COULD BE VERY 22:13.532 --> 22:17.202 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% PROBLEMATIC, WITH A NUMBER OF OUR TEACHERS ARE ALREADY, 22:17.302 --> 22:22.607 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU KNOW, REACHING SOME AGE IF I CAN SAY THAT IS DELICATELY AS 22:22.708 --> 22:25.677 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% POSSIBLE AND MIGHT NOT FEEL SAFE GOING BACK INTO THE 22:25.777 --> 22:28.680 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% CLASSROOM THIS YEAR. SO THIS PRESENT SOME REAL PROBLEMS 22:28.780 --> 22:30.015 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% DOESN'T IT? 22:30.115 --> 22:32.250 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> IT DOES. THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT WITH EARLIER WHICH 22:32.351 --> 22:35.487 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% IS THAT THE STAFFING AND THE SORT OF SENIOR TEACHERS 22:35.587 --> 22:39.191 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SENIOR IN AGE, TEACHERS AND STAFF. I THINK WILL CERTAINLY 22:39.291 --> 22:42.160 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% HAVE SOME CONCERNS. IT DOES REMIND US THAT WE NEEDED TO BE 22:42.260 --> 22:44.696 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% A LONG TIME AGO WE NEEDED TO SPEND MORE ON SCHOOL NURSES AND 22:44.796 --> 22:47.733 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MAKE SURE THEY WERE THERE. IT'S ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT NOW 22:47.833 --> 22:49.234 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% DURING THIS PANDEMIC. 22:49.334 --> 22:52.671 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> WELL THE JULY 4TH PERIOD IS GOING TO BE VERY EXCITING 22:52.771 --> 22:57.409 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AROUND HERE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF JUDICIAL DECISIONS. 22:57.509 --> 22:59.644 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THE GOVERNOR'S GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON SCHOOLS 22:59.745 --> 23:01.480 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND WE CERTAINLY ARE GOING TO BE 23:01.580 --> 23:04.649 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% TALKING ABOUT THEM AS TIME GOES ON. THE ONE THING I THINK 23:04.750 --> 23:07.219 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% EVERYBODY CAN AGREE ABOUT IS THAT WE REALLY DO WANT TO GET 23:07.319 --> 23:10.222 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% OUR KIDS BACK IN SCHOOL AND RIGHT NOW WE REALLY DO WANT TO 23:10.322 --> 23:12.257 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% GET THE PANEL TO TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 23:12.357 --> 23:16.495 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% HOWARD LEE START US OFF TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 23:16.595 --> 23:19.231 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> YOU KNOW WHEN I LOOK AT THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT 23:19.331 --> 23:26.905 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NOW, TO ME IT'S KIND OF LIKE LIVING ALONG DREADED NIGHTMARE. 23:27.005 --> 23:29.908 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% JULY 19TH IS SOMETHING CALLED JUNETEENTH 23:30.008 --> 23:32.577 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AND THAT'S THE DAY THE SLAVES WERE FREED. 23:32.677 --> 23:37.048 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% AND IT DISTURBS ME THAT TULSA, OKLAHOMA CERTAINLY 23:37.149 --> 23:41.987 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ENDED UP BEING THE MASSACRE THAT WE ALL GREW UP READING ABOUT. 23:42.087 --> 23:46.825 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% AND FOR THE PRESIDENT TO GO AND HOLD A RALLY ON THAT DAY IN 23:46.925 --> 23:50.429 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% THAT COMMUNITY SIMPLY OPEN UP A LOT OF OLD WOUNDS, 23:50.529 --> 23:52.264 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% AND I THINK IT'S GOING 23:52.364 --> 23:55.934 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TO SPREAD IN A WAY THAT WON'T BE DESIRABLE. 23:56.034 --> 23:58.703 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> CHRIS FITZSIMON TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 23:58.804 --> 24:01.273 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING ISSUES I THINK IS 24:01.373 --> 24:04.576 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% THAT THE MILITARY PLAYING A ROLE IN WHAT'S HAPPENING. 24:04.676 --> 24:07.012 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% IN OUR COUNTRY IN THE MOOD FOR RACIAL JUSTICE, THE JOINT THE 24:07.112 --> 24:09.948 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF THIS WEEK APOLOGIZED, 24:10.048 --> 24:13.118 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% FOR MARCHING TO THE CHURCH WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP. THE 24:13.218 --> 24:16.588 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MILITARY LEADERS ARE OPEN TO RENAMING BASES THAT ARE 24:16.688 --> 24:19.791 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% NAMED AFTER CONFEDERATE GENERALS A REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE THIS 24:19.891 --> 24:23.895 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WEEK VOTED TO DO THAT WITHIN 3 YEARS. SENATOR TILLIS OBJECTED 24:23.995 --> 24:26.598 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% SO HE DISAGREES WITH IT LOOKS LIKE THE MILITARY AND A 24:26.698 --> 24:28.867 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG ISSUE I THINK 24:28.967 --> 24:30.402 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% IN THE CAMPAIGN. 24:30.502 --> 24:31.369 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% >> GOT ABOUT A MINUTE 30 LEFT. 24:31.470 --> 24:33.839 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% AB TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 24:33.939 --> 24:37.442 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% >> SO THE MILLENNIAL GENERATION HAS BEEN NAMED TO THE MOST 24:37.542 --> 24:43.181 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% UNLUCKY GENERATION IN HISTORY. YEAH, IT'S A BUMMER. BUT 59% OF 24:43.281 --> 24:45.851 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% MILLENNIALS ARE ACTUALLY WITHDRAWING FROM THEIR 401K 24:45.951 --> 24:50.121 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% RETIREMENT PLANS EARLY. AND ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS IS 24:50.222 --> 24:54.159 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL RESTRAINT FROM COVID. 24:54.259 --> 24:56.228 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% >> WOULD YOU KNOW ANYONE IN THAT GENERATION? 24:56.328 --> 24:58.263 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% >> I DO KNOW QUITE A FEW 24:58.363 --> 24:59.498 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> JOHN TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW. 24:59.598 --> 25:00.699 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% WE GOT ABOUT A MINUTE. 25:00.799 --> 25:02.434 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% >> ALL RIGHT WELL NORTH CAROLINA LAST ABOUT A LITTLE 25:02.534 --> 25:07.305 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% OVER 50,000 JOBS AND IN MARCH AND APRIL IN THE AREA OF HEALTH 25:07.405 --> 25:09.541 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% CARE AND SOCIAL ASSISTANCE. 25:09.641 --> 25:11.510 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE 25:11.610 --> 25:15.080 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% FOR MAY YET, WE'LL HAVE THOSE ANOTHER WEEK OR SO, BUT IT IS 25:15.180 --> 25:17.616 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% LIKELY THAT A LOT OF THOSE JOBS WILL RETURN A LOT OF DENTAL 25:17.716 --> 25:21.987 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% PRACTICES DOCTOR PRACTICES HAVE BEEN ADDED BACK IN DAYCARES 25:22.087 --> 25:24.356 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% WHICH IS ANOTHER AREA THAT HAS LOST SOME EMPLOYMENT WILL HAVE 25:24.456 --> 25:28.026 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% SOME RECOVERY SO THAT WOULD AT LEAST I THINK WILL IMPROVE IN 25:28.126 --> 25:30.295 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% MAY WE'LL HAVE TO SEE. >> WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK 25:30.395 --> 25:31.963 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% AT THOSE NUMBERS. WELL YOU'VE HEARD OUR SPIN ON THE ISSUES 25:32.063 --> 25:33.265 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% OF THE DAY. 25:33.365 --> 25:35.734 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% TO STAY INFORMED ALL DURING THE WEEK SIGN UP FOR OUR FREE 25:35.834 --> 25:38.537 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% WEEKLY EMAIL NEWSLETTER GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK AND READ MY 25:38.637 --> 25:42.374 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WEEKLY COLUMN, VISIT OUR WEBSITE NCSPIN.COM, OR CATCH NC SPIN 25:42.474 --> 25:46.411 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% ON FACEBOOK. WHILE THERE BE SURE TO SUBSCRIBE TO OUR NEWSLETTER 25:46.511 --> 25:50.015 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% UNTIL NEXT WEEK, PAY ATTENTION WATCH OUT FOR THE SPIN. 25:53.084 --> 25:54.819 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% IN MORE THAN 21 YEARS ON NC SPIN, 25:54.920 --> 25:57.155 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% I NEVER ENDORSED A PRODUCT OR SPONSORED 25:57.255 --> 26:00.992 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% BUT I VOLUNTEERED TO DO THIS MESSAGE FOR FAMILY PHYSICIANS. 26:01.092 --> 26:02.427 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% OVER THE PAST 40 YEARS, 26:02.527 --> 26:05.297 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% MY FAMILY DOCTOR COULD QUICKLY DIAGNOSE MY ILLNESSES 26:05.397 --> 26:07.332 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% BECAUSE HE KNEW MY MEDICAL HISTORY. 26:07.432 --> 26:09.367 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% EVIDENCE SUGGESTS I'LL LIVE LONGER, 26:09.467 --> 26:10.869 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% HAVE A HIGHER QUALITY OF LIFE 26:10.969 --> 26:13.505 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% AND SAVE 33% ON HEALTH CARE COSTS. 26:13.605 --> 26:15.240 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% I BELIEVE IN MY TRUSTED RELATIONSHIP 26:15.340 --> 26:16.975 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% WITH MY FAMILY PHYSICIAN. 26:17.075 --> 26:18.243 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% - [ANNOUNCER] FAMILY PHYSICIANS, 26:18.343 --> 26:21.112 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% YOUR TRUSTED HEALTH CARE ADVISOR FOR LIFE. 26:23.815 --> 26:25.183 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% [UPBEAT MUSIC] 26:25.283 --> 26:27.085 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% - [ANNOUNCER] LIFE'S BUSY, BUT YOU'RE IN CONTROL. 26:27.185 --> 26:28.753 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% AS AN ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE MEMBER, 26:28.853 --> 26:30.522 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% YOU HAVE ACCESS TO LOTS OF TOOLS 26:30.622 --> 26:33.325 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% TO HELP MANAGE YOUR HOME ENERGY USE AND BUDGET 26:33.425 --> 26:36.761 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% SO YOU CAN FOCUS ON WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT. 26:40.131 --> 26:41.833 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% - NORTH CAROLINA CHANNEL IS MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH 26:41.933 --> 26:44.569 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% THE FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF VIEWERS LIKE YOU. 26:44.669 --> 26:46.805 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% WHO SUPPORT THE UNC-TV NETWORK.