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- [Announcer] Montana AG
Live is made possible by

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the Montana Department
of Agriculture,

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the MSU Extension Service,

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the MSU Ag Experiment Stations

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of the College of Agriculture,

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the Montana Wheat
and Barley Committee,

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the Montana Bankers Association,

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Cashman Nursery and Landscaping,

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and the Gallatin Gardeners Club.

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(cows mooing)

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(bright acoustic music)

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♪ If your herbicides
and fungicides

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♪ And pesticides are old

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♪ The veggies you are growing
in your garden start to mold

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♪ If the ants are attacking
and you're having a hard time

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♪ Call Montana AG Live

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♪ Knapweed in the ditch and
the old bull's got an itch

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♪ Ticks upon my sheep and
the wool is really cheap

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♪ The gophers in the pasture
are even worse than last year

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♪ Montana AG Live where are you

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- Good evening, welcome
to Montana Ag Live,

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originating tonight from
the studios at KUSM,

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on the beautiful campus of
Montana State University,

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and coming to you over
the Montana Public

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I'm Jack Riesselman,

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I'll be your host or
coordinator tonight.

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Welcome back.

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I think most of you who have
seen the program in the past,

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know how it works.

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If you have questions
pertaining to the expertise

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of our stunning
panel this evening,

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then, call 'em in, and
we'll provide the answers.

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It's a lot of fun,
for those of you

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who haven't watched before,

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if you have some questions,
please join in and call.

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There'll be a telephone number

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on the screen most
of the evening.

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Let me start off the
evening by introducing

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our panel this evening.

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To the far left,
is Mary Burrows.

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Mary is the extension
Plant Pathologist

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at Montana State University.

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Next to her, our special guest,

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and we're happy to have you
down here, this evening Jasmine.

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It's Jasmine Reimer,
and she is the

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Noxious Weed Trust
Fund Coordinator,

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based with the Department
of Agriculture in Helena.

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Glad you could make it.

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I think you all recognize the
lovely smile of Jane Mangold.

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Jane is our invasive
weed specialist.

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I like to call her
herbicide weed specialist.

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Next to her, Toby, Toby Day
is our plant specialist,

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horticulturalist.

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And from there let me
introduce the panel.

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On the left, an old
friend, Judge Bruce Lobo.

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Judge Lobo used to be

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the Chief Water Court Justice,

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and he has volunteered to answer

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the phones tonight, so welcome.

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Next to Bruce is Don Seifert,

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and then there's Don Mathre.

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Folks, you can start
making the phone calls

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anytime you like.

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We have the people there
waiting to take them.

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Jasmine, tell us a little about

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the Noxious Weed Trust Fund,

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and what you do for the state.

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- Sure, so the Noxious
Weed Trust Fund,

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is pretty unique to Montana.

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We're the only
state that has one.

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It was started in 1985,

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and it was money
put into a trust

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just for noxious weed
control in this state.

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There are four different
types of grants

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that you can get
through the trust fund,

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and then I'm the coordinator,

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so I put out those requests

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and go through the applications,

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and then I go through
and survey all the grants

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that are out there in Montana.

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- And for what I've seen,
since I've been here in 1985

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is the Noxious Weed Trust
Fund has been very successful,

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in minimizing, not
eliminating, but minimizing,

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some of the effects of
weeds in this state.

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You guys have done a great job.

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- Everybody that's
applied and has a grant

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has done a great job.

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- That's good.

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Okay, let's start off
this evening with Toby.

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This is a question
from last week.

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It said Valentine, but I think

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they meant Ballantine, Montana.

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They would like some sort
of berry, in the sun area,

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around the house.

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Any particular berry
that you would recommend,

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that would thrive in a
sunny area around the house?

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- Well most of our berries are,

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we will be putting
in a sunny area,

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so strawberries, raspberries,

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those are the two that I
would normally recommend.

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If you want to try something
a little different,

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probably some currants,

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riverbank grape would be
one, that you might look at.

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And then you can
probably even get into

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some of the newer
ones, like haskap.

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But most of your berries are
gonna be in the sun anyway.

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- All right.

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- [Jane] I have a follow
up question, Toby.

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Do you know anything
about the goji berries?

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And isn't there some interest in

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trying to grow those in Montana?

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- Yeah, I think that there
is some interest in that,

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and I know we are doing
a small fruit research

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here on campus,

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and in other research stations.

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I'm not sure if goji berry

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is actually in that
research plots or not,

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but I know that we're
looking at a lot of different

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and new kind of berries,

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anything from haskaps
to bush cherries.

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Those are the major
ones that I know of,

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but roni I think is another one

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that we're looking at also.

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So there's quite a few that
we're looking at for Montana.

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- Warmer temperatures,
different berries.

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- Yes,

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but still, really
not blueberries,

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unless you're up in that
northwestern part of the state.

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- Jasmine, from Scobey,
they've heard of the

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Noxious Weed Trust
Fund in the past.

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They'd like to know where
the dollars come from,

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that funds the Noxious
Weed Trust Fund.

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- So the money that
goes into the trust,

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it has a $10 million cap.

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So the interest every
year gets swept,

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and gets put into grant funds.

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We also get 1.5%

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on vehicle registration
fees each year.

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And those go in.

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We get 100,000 from MDT,

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that gets put into those grants.

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And we also get corporate
forestry assistance money.

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- So on an average year,

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and I know it's
hard to say average,

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but say in a normal year,

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what amount of
money is available

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for grants in the state to
control weeds or minimize them?

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- Sure, through the trust fund

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we award about two
million each year.

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This last year in
'17, was 2.2 million.

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- [Jack] That's a
considerable amount of money.

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- Definitely, and
a lot of it is 50%,

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so that's only half of
what's getting spent.

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- Okay, thank you.

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Jane, from Bozeman, is
there anything people can do

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to encourage their neighbors
to control noxious weeds?

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You know what, that's an
issue here in Bozeman.

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I can attest to that.

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- Well I think it's an
issue all across the state.

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And I think in the
more urban areas,

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and some of the subdivisions
and homeowners associations

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in our more populated areas,
it's probably a bigger issue,

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maybe then some others.

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One thing you can do is
talk to your neighbor,

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and try to educate your neighbor

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about why noxious
weeds are an issue, and

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why they should care.

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There is a county
noxious weed control act,

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that you are required by law

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to keep your weeds from
propagating on your property,

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but most neighbors
you don't want

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to pull out the heavy club.

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I think it's better
to talk to them first

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about the issues associated
with noxious weeds.

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Try to appeal to something
that's important to them.

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So if you know they
like native wildflowers,

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talk about how these plants
can displace native flowers.

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If they have livestock,

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perhaps talk about how some
of these species are toxic.

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And then I would encourage
some sort of community event

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to get people, like a weed-pull.

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Let's all get together, do a
weed-pull for a couple hours,

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and then maybe have a barbecue
or something like that.

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So you kind of make
it a social event

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to maybe perhaps
introduce the concepts

08:03.933 --> 08:06.600 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
associated with noxious weeds.

08:06.600 --> 08:08.200 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
- I'm gonna ask a
follow up question,

08:08.200 --> 08:10.933 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
and both you and Jasmine
can get involved here.

08:10.933 --> 08:12.366 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
It's not only private land

08:12.366 --> 08:14.100 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
I'm seeing a lot
of noxious weeds,

08:14.100 --> 08:17.133 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
specifically Canada
thistle and a few others,

08:17.133 --> 08:19.900 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
if it's on public
land, what do you do?

08:19.900 --> 08:22.266 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
Or how do you address that?

08:22.266 --> 08:25.600 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
- Again, I think
visiting with whatever

08:25.600 --> 08:29.300 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
agency is in charge
of managing that land.

08:29.300 --> 08:32.833 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
I know that the state
and federal agencies,

08:32.833 --> 08:37.000 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
they have a lot of land to try
to manage noxious weeds on,

08:37.000 --> 08:38.900 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
and they typically don't have

08:38.900 --> 08:42.866 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
all the funding that's
required to manage them,

08:42.866 --> 08:44.200 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
to the full extent.

08:44.200 --> 08:45.866 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
So I don't know if
Jasmine wants to

08:45.866 --> 08:47.133 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
jump in there.
- I think if you're not sure

08:47.133 --> 08:50.900 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
who to contact, I'd call
the county weed district,

08:50.900 --> 08:53.200 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
or extension, and they
would have the names

08:53.200 --> 08:56.466 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
of those regional
people to contact.

08:56.466 --> 08:58.033 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
- We have a follow up
question that just came in,

08:58.033 --> 08:59.266 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
we'll get back to
you in a minute.

08:59.266 --> 09:02.033 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
But Mary, here's
one from last week.

09:02.033 --> 09:03.766 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
From Forsythe, they have noticed

09:03.766 --> 09:06.500 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
chokecherries and
aspens in the foothills,

09:06.500 --> 09:08.466 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
but primarily chokecherries

09:08.466 --> 09:11.166 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
have black knots
growing on them.

09:11.166 --> 09:12.866 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
Do you know what that is,

09:12.866 --> 09:14.800 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
and how would you control that?

09:14.800 --> 09:18.366 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
- That's how you recognize
cherry, it has black knots.

09:18.366 --> 09:21.400 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
It's a fungal disease,
creates cankers

09:21.400 --> 09:24.166 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
that have that
distinctive shape.

09:24.166 --> 09:27.500 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
And we recommend that
homeowners prune them out,

09:27.500 --> 09:31.200 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
and while there is, they're
a natural phenomenon.

09:31.200 --> 09:34.933 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
- Jasmine, this question
came in from Hardin.

09:34.933 --> 09:39.100 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
They said of the $2.2 million
that are awarded in grants,

09:40.500 --> 09:43.733 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
how many different grants
were involved roughly?

09:43.733 --> 09:44.600 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:24.38%
- Around 200.

09:44.600 --> 09:45.866 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:24.38%
- [Jack] 200?

09:45.866 --> 09:48.366 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
Who applies for these grants?

09:48.366 --> 09:51.166 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
- So we have a section of grants

09:51.166 --> 09:54.833 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
that goes to each county weed
district, and reservation.

09:54.833 --> 09:58.166 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
And then we also have
universities apply,

09:58.166 --> 09:59.966 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
extension applies,

09:59.966 --> 10:04.033 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
we have non-profits, local
county weed districts.

10:05.466 --> 10:08.033 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
It's really who wants to apply.

10:10.466 --> 10:13.200 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- Is there a lower
limit, an upper limit,

10:13.200 --> 10:16.066 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
of the amount of funding
people can apply for?

10:16.066 --> 10:17.066 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
- There's an upper limit,

10:17.066 --> 10:20.100 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
so you can get
funded up to $75,000.

10:20.933 --> 10:23.366 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
- Sounds like a plan to me.

10:23.366 --> 10:27.100 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
- Jane, we talked about
this ahead of time,

10:27.100 --> 10:28.800 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
so if you don't fall
out of the chair

10:28.800 --> 10:30.966 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
you can bring up the prop.

10:30.966 --> 10:34.966 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
From Laurel, this
person called last week,

10:34.966 --> 10:36.566 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
and would like you to talk about

10:36.566 --> 10:39.400 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
the new Roundup
for grass control.

10:40.633 --> 10:43.633 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
- Yeah, so I'm glad
this call came in,

10:43.633 --> 10:46.400 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
because I was actually
planning on bringing this,

10:46.400 --> 10:48.633 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
this item tonight
for a show and tell.

10:48.633 --> 10:50.166 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
So just in the last
couple of weeks,

10:50.166 --> 10:51.866 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
we learned that
there's a new product

10:51.866 --> 10:55.400 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
on the shelf this spring,
it's called Roundup for lawns.

10:55.400 --> 10:58.266 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
Now Roundup, for many
many many many years

10:58.266 --> 11:00.700 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
has been the active
ingredient glyphosate

11:00.700 --> 11:02.800 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
which is non-selective,

11:02.800 --> 11:05.266 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
and something you wouldn't
want to use on your lawn,

11:05.266 --> 11:07.733 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
unless you were trying
to get rid of it.

11:07.733 --> 11:09.900 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
This product here,
Roundup for lawns,

11:09.900 --> 11:13.266 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
and the 'for lawns' is down
underneath the Roundup,

11:13.266 --> 11:16.433 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
is actually a combination
of four different

11:16.433 --> 11:21.033 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
active ingredients, none
of which are glyphosate.

11:21.033 --> 11:24.600 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
There's four different
active ingredients.

11:24.600 --> 11:28.800 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
They affect a broad spectrum
of mostly broad-leafed plants.

11:30.933 --> 11:34.433 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
But they can affect
grasses, pre-emergent.

11:37.733 --> 11:39.133 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
I wanted to bring
this on tonight,

11:39.133 --> 11:42.566 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
because we have been
receiving some calls from it,

11:42.566 --> 11:45.033 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
or about it, to our
extension offices,

11:45.033 --> 11:47.633 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
and to the Scutter
Diagnostic Lab.

11:47.633 --> 11:48.933 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
And I also wanted
to bring it on,

11:48.933 --> 11:51.100 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
because I think it
really emphasizes

11:51.100 --> 11:53.566 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
the need to read a label,

11:53.566 --> 11:56.566 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
and to make sure you know
what you're purchasing

11:56.566 --> 11:59.633 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
and how to use it properly.

11:59.633 --> 12:01.833 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
And then I also brought
it, because I know,

12:01.833 --> 12:05.800 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
sometimes the panel, we
often refer to pesticides

12:05.800 --> 12:07.533 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
in terms of their
active ingredients,

12:07.533 --> 12:09.366 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
versus the trade name,

12:10.633 --> 12:12.866 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
so this is one reason
why we do that,

12:12.866 --> 12:16.833 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
because it can be very confusing
when you talk trade names.

12:16.833 --> 12:19.966 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
We talk mostly in
active ingredients.

12:19.966 --> 12:21.833 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:24.38%
- And there's
always a potential,

12:21.833 --> 12:23.400 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
if you don't read the label,

12:23.400 --> 12:25.333 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
and if you just buy Roundup,

12:25.333 --> 12:26.933 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
and you think it's for grass,

12:26.933 --> 12:28.266 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
it's gonna wipe the grass out.

12:28.266 --> 12:30.866 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
- Yeah, so if you accidentally,
this is on the shelf

12:30.866 --> 12:33.100 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
right next to just
straight Roundup,

12:33.100 --> 12:36.133 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
which is a completely
different active ingredient.

12:36.133 --> 12:37.733 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
And if you sprayed
it on your lawns

12:37.733 --> 12:38.733 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
with the intent of trying

12:38.733 --> 12:40.666 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
to get rid of something
like dandelion,

12:40.666 --> 12:43.900 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
or Canada thistle,
or field bind weed,

12:43.900 --> 12:46.233 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
you'd end up getting
rid of everything.

12:46.233 --> 12:48.833 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
- [Toby] And that
doesn't happen does it?

12:48.833 --> 12:50.166 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
- It does happen.

12:50.166 --> 12:52.966 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- I was just gonna
say, I get at least,

12:52.966 --> 12:55.366 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
at the very minimum, a
half dozen calls a year

12:55.366 --> 12:57.466 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
of somebody that
calls me up and says,

12:57.466 --> 12:59.700 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
I think I did something stupid.

12:59.700 --> 13:02.266 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
And when it comes to lawns,
well I sprayed my lawn,

13:02.266 --> 13:04.733 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
I already know where the
conversation is going,

13:04.733 --> 13:06.700 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
and usually it's a
spouse on the other side

13:06.700 --> 13:09.266 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
that's not very happy
about the situation

13:09.266 --> 13:11.766 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
that this lawn was sprayed.

13:11.766 --> 13:13.266 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
And I've even seen nationally,

13:13.266 --> 13:16.966 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
where entire parks have been
sprayed with glyphosate,

13:16.966 --> 13:18.533 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
thinking that they were
getting rid of weeds.

13:18.533 --> 13:20.000 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
But it's a weedkiller.

13:20.000 --> 13:21.100 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
And so that's just why

13:21.100 --> 13:23.366 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
it's so important to
read those labels.

13:23.366 --> 13:26.533 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
- And keep the product in
the original container.

13:26.533 --> 13:29.400 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
- In the original
container, yep.

13:29.400 --> 13:30.833 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
I think it's a little
bit unfortunate

13:30.833 --> 13:34.700 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
that we do have,
Roundup now has a name

13:34.700 --> 13:36.900 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
that's gonna be synonymous
with weedkiller,

13:36.900 --> 13:38.666 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
and a broad spectrum,

13:40.266 --> 13:42.533 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
because even broad spectrum,
and broadleaf control

13:42.533 --> 13:46.033 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
can get really confusing
for homeowners.

13:46.033 --> 13:48.233 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
It's gonna be a challenge
I think for them.

13:48.233 --> 13:50.800 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
It's gonna be a challenge for
us as extension specialists

13:50.800 --> 13:54.100 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
to be able to get the right
information out on this.

13:54.100 --> 13:55.266 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
- Thanks Toby.

13:57.000 --> 13:59.133 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
And you too Jane.

13:59.133 --> 14:01.400 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
That was a very
good show and tell.

14:01.400 --> 14:05.733 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
For Jane and Jasmine,
this is from Great Falls.

14:05.733 --> 14:08.033 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
And they want to know,
are there any new ideas

14:08.033 --> 14:09.966 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
on how to deal with cheatgrass,

14:09.966 --> 14:11.900 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
and from Jasmine's end,

14:11.900 --> 14:15.833 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
are there any Noxious
Weed Trust Fund grants

14:15.833 --> 14:18.500 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
addressing the cheatgrass?

14:18.500 --> 14:19.833 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
- I'll let Jasmine go first.

14:19.833 --> 14:23.433 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
- Sure, Jane has grass rather
than cheatgrass actually.

14:23.433 --> 14:25.433 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- [Jack] Maybe she
sent this question up.

14:25.433 --> 14:27.733 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- [Jane] I did not
call that question in.

14:27.733 --> 14:29.966 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
- Cheatgrass is a
regulated weed in Montana,

14:29.966 --> 14:31.966 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
so the funding can't
go directly to that,

14:31.966 --> 14:33.400 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
but we do fund research projects

14:33.400 --> 14:36.566 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
for finding new ways
to get rid of it.

14:36.566 --> 14:38.233 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
- Yeah, and I will add that

14:38.233 --> 14:41.600 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
for as far as looking for
new ideas for cheatgrass.

14:41.600 --> 14:43.200 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
We're always looking
for new ideas.

14:43.200 --> 14:46.600 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
The trust fund has been
very generous with MSU

14:46.600 --> 14:48.400 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
for the last five, six years

14:48.400 --> 14:52.233 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
on some various research
projects that we're looking at,

14:52.233 --> 14:55.333 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
one project that we've
done has been looking at

14:55.333 --> 14:59.900 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
potential bioherbicide,
it's a fungal pathogen.

14:59.900 --> 15:02.000 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
We've done work looking at

15:02.900 --> 15:06.166 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
integrating herbicides
and sheep grazing

15:06.166 --> 15:07.733 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
for cheatgrass control,

15:07.733 --> 15:11.133 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
so we've been trying
several different things.

15:11.133 --> 15:14.966 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
Where some of that research
is still preliminary,

15:14.966 --> 15:18.466 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
in terms of trying to make
recommendations based on it.

15:18.466 --> 15:22.633 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
And we've also done some
work with various herbicides.

15:23.733 --> 15:26.466 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
- Is cheatgrass
increasing in the state?

15:26.466 --> 15:29.733 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
I think it is, but that's just
an observation on my part.

15:29.733 --> 15:31.533 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
- Yeah, I think
it's been increasing

15:31.533 --> 15:34.033 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
over the last 15 years, or so.

15:35.433 --> 15:39.533 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
When I started my position,
almost nine years ago now,

15:39.533 --> 15:41.366 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
I got more questions
about cheatgrass

15:41.366 --> 15:43.233 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
than anything else
when I started,

15:43.233 --> 15:47.166 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
and that has continued
for the last nine years.

15:48.000 --> 15:49.833 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
It's also a problem
in crops as well,

15:49.833 --> 15:54.500 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
so there's research into
cropping systems as well.

15:54.500 --> 15:55.666 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- [Mary] Have you seen
any success from some

15:55.666 --> 15:58.833 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
of the biologicals for
management of cheatgrass?

15:58.833 --> 16:02.566 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
- Well, we were working with
pyrenophora semeniperda,

16:02.566 --> 16:04.733 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
which is a fungal pathogen,

16:04.733 --> 16:07.166 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
and it worked well
in the greenhouse,

16:07.166 --> 16:08.733 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
but when we would
try to apply that

16:08.733 --> 16:11.233 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
to various systems
out in the field,

16:11.233 --> 16:15.500 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
we just couldn't get it
to do much in the field.

16:15.500 --> 16:18.233 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
And then there is
a bioherbicide,

16:19.233 --> 16:22.366 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
which is a bacteria,
pseudomonas fluorescens,

16:22.366 --> 16:25.933 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
that is on the market
in various forms,

16:25.933 --> 16:28.166 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
and we have some
research looking at

16:28.166 --> 16:29.533 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
the effectiveness of that,

16:29.533 --> 16:30.933 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
at the Red Bluff
Research Station.

16:30.933 --> 16:33.700 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
So the jury's still out
with the biologicals.

16:33.700 --> 16:34.600 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
- I was at a
conference last week,

16:34.600 --> 16:36.666 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
and one of the things
they emphasized was that

16:36.666 --> 16:39.833 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
you can't expect
biologicals to act like

16:39.833 --> 16:41.633 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
a regular pesticide.

16:41.633 --> 16:44.466 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
You have to consider
the whole system,

16:44.466 --> 16:46.700 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
and multiple methods.

16:46.700 --> 16:50.033 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
So it's not a spray,
and get instant results.

16:50.033 --> 16:52.466 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
- And that's hard to
overcome a lot of times,

16:52.466 --> 16:53.433 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
when people are--

16:53.433 --> 16:54.933 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
(talking over each other)

16:54.933 --> 16:56.200 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:20.63%
It is, yep.

16:56.200 --> 16:58.733 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
- Speaking of biological
controls, Jasmine,

16:58.733 --> 17:00.566 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
does the Noxious
Weed Trust Fund fund

17:00.566 --> 17:03.600 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
quite a few biological
weed control projects?

17:03.600 --> 17:07.333 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
- We do in research again,
the local cooperatives,

17:07.333 --> 17:09.000 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
where you're actually spraying,

17:09.000 --> 17:11.966 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
or doing control on the ground,

17:11.966 --> 17:14.800 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
they're just a part of the
integrated weed management.

17:14.800 --> 17:17.900 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
We don't buy agents for them.

17:17.900 --> 17:21.066 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
- Sounds like a good plan to me.

17:21.066 --> 17:23.100 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
Mary, from Hardins, tryperus,

17:23.100 --> 17:25.333 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
is it showing up
early this year?

17:25.333 --> 17:28.833 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
And will the cool frosty
nights set it back?

17:28.833 --> 17:31.333 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
- Thus far we have no
reports from Montana,

17:31.333 --> 17:34.700 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
but it's just a little bit too
cold for tryperus just yet.

17:34.700 --> 17:37.300 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
It's highly active
in Washington, Idaho,

17:37.300 --> 17:40.166 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas.

17:40.166 --> 17:43.100 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
I expect it to be a
very good tryperus year.

17:43.100 --> 17:44.833 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
At this point, in
the state of Montana,

17:44.833 --> 17:46.733 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
if you're not growing
a resistant variety,

17:46.733 --> 17:48.966 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
you should plan to
spray a fungicide.

17:48.966 --> 17:52.066 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
- And wind currents can
bring it over the hills.

17:52.066 --> 17:53.366 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
- And I'm sure it'll
ruin (muffled).

17:53.366 --> 17:54.200 align:start position:42.5% line:10% size:13.13%
- Okay.

17:55.433 --> 17:58.600 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
Another question for Jasmine.

17:58.600 --> 17:59.933 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
You mentioned various
different things

17:59.933 --> 18:01.433 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
that are eligible for cost.

18:01.433 --> 18:05.133 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
What type of costs are
eligible for funding,

18:06.766 --> 18:08.833 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
by the trust fund?

18:08.833 --> 18:11.733 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- So we have research,
and education and

18:11.733 --> 18:12.866 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
and those are a little different

18:12.866 --> 18:15.133 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
than our local
cooperative grants.

18:15.133 --> 18:17.966 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
For research and
education developments,

18:17.966 --> 18:21.433 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
you can apply for
salary benefits,

18:21.433 --> 18:23.933 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
supplies, education materials,

18:26.033 --> 18:30.400 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
communications, travel, things
like that, for your research.

18:30.400 --> 18:32.833 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
And then our local cooperatives,

18:32.833 --> 18:37.000 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
you can apply for 50%
cost share on herbicides,

18:38.233 --> 18:39.966 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
on herbicide application,

18:39.966 --> 18:43.300 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
so if you were gonna hire a
contractor to apply those.

18:43.300 --> 18:45.100 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
Same goes with revegetation,

18:45.100 --> 18:46.900 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
you can get 50% off seeds,

18:46.900 --> 18:51.466 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
and then also the revegetation
costs for a contractor.

18:51.466 --> 18:53.633 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:24.38%
And same with
local cooperatives,

18:53.633 --> 18:55.766 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
you can get money for supplies,

18:55.766 --> 18:59.466 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
if you're having a
weed-pull or a weed day.

18:59.466 --> 19:02.600 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
And communication and
things like that too.

19:02.600 --> 19:04.600 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
- Can you get a herd of
goats if you need them?

19:04.600 --> 19:06.100 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
- [Jasmine] You can, yep yep,

19:06.100 --> 19:08.366 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
you can hire a goat herder.

19:08.366 --> 19:09.433 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
- That doesn't surprise me.

19:09.433 --> 19:10.266 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
- We don't buy the goats

19:10.266 --> 19:12.166 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
but we'll help pay
for transportation.

19:12.166 --> 19:13.733 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
- I have a follow up
question for Jasmine.

19:13.733 --> 19:15.266 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
For the local cooperatives,

19:15.266 --> 19:18.100 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
can they purchase
equipment with grant funds?

19:18.100 --> 19:21.566 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
Or is it strictly
supplies and materials.

19:21.566 --> 19:24.833 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
- It's just supplies and
materials, no equipment.

19:24.833 --> 19:28.000 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
The local counties can, and
reservations, can buy equipment

19:28.000 --> 19:30.333 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
with their grants each year.

19:31.866 --> 19:33.066 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
- Thank you.

19:33.066 --> 19:35.633 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
Toby, from Stevensville,

19:35.633 --> 19:37.433 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
they have a grove
of four aspen trees,

19:37.433 --> 19:39.133 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
probably pretty small,

19:39.133 --> 19:41.566 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
because they're having
issues in the fall

19:41.566 --> 19:44.833 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
with deer bucks rubbing
their antlers on the trees.

19:44.833 --> 19:47.400 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
How can they prevent that?

19:47.400 --> 19:49.066 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
- You've just got
to fence them out.

19:49.066 --> 19:51.166 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
So some type of fencing,

19:51.166 --> 19:53.033 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
some type of guard
around that tree,

19:53.033 --> 19:53.866 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
is about the only way

19:53.866 --> 19:57.833 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
to keep the bucks
from rubbing on those.

19:57.833 --> 19:59.300 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
If it was something
with sprouts,

19:59.300 --> 20:00.633 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
then there would
be other products,

20:00.633 --> 20:04.666 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
but the rubbing, there's
really no product out there.

20:04.666 --> 20:07.066 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
- How about the electric
fence with peanut butter?

20:07.066 --> 20:08.266 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- That would work.

20:08.266 --> 20:10.500 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
Electric fence, with a little
peanut butter on there,

20:10.500 --> 20:12.033 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
that way they taste it,

20:12.033 --> 20:14.900 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
and they get a good idea but,

20:14.900 --> 20:19.166 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
it just depends on what time
of year that's gonna be.

20:19.166 --> 20:20.866 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
It doesn't always work.

20:20.866 --> 20:21.900 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
I'm finding out with deer,

20:21.900 --> 20:25.066 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
that deer can get through
just about any fence,

20:25.066 --> 20:27.633 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
especially if it's electrified,

20:27.633 --> 20:29.633 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
they seem to get through it.

20:29.633 --> 20:31.233 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
It's just like any
other deer deterrent.

20:31.233 --> 20:33.800 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
Somehow, they figure out a way.

20:33.800 --> 20:35.733 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
- Peanut butter, if
they're conditioned,

20:35.733 --> 20:37.666 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
they're coming to the fence
for two or three days,

20:37.666 --> 20:40.333 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
and then you put a
little jolt to them.

20:40.333 --> 20:42.233 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
I've been told they
don't like to come back.

20:42.233 --> 20:43.066 align:start position:42.5% line:10% size:15%
- Right.

20:44.133 --> 20:48.000 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
- Jasmine, and Jane,
from Great Falls,

20:48.000 --> 20:49.966 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
are there restrictions
on which chemicals

20:49.966 --> 20:51.866 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
can be used on noxious weeds,

20:51.866 --> 20:55.500 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
i.e. weeds close to
water, and so forth?

20:55.500 --> 20:56.400 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
- [Jane] Do you want to do that?

20:56.400 --> 20:58.800 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- Sure, there is a
list for our grants

20:58.800 --> 21:00.666 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
of approved herbicides.

21:00.666 --> 21:04.066 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
And they're mostly range
and pasture herbicides,

21:04.066 --> 21:06.500 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
so we don't do lawns.

21:06.500 --> 21:10.666 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
We don't fund chemicals for
lawns, or for CRP property.

21:11.600 --> 21:16.200 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
So there are some and each
grant that uses herbicides,

21:16.200 --> 21:19.900 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
has to write up an EA,
environmental assessment.

21:19.900 --> 21:22.900 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
So they go through and they'll
list those mitigations,

21:22.900 --> 21:25.933 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
if there's water, if there's
wells, things like that.

21:25.933 --> 21:27.166 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
So they'll already address

21:27.166 --> 21:29.400 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
what they're gonna
do to avoid those.

21:29.400 --> 21:31.166 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- Okay, thank you.

21:31.166 --> 21:35.666 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
Mary, from Bozeman, and Toby
you can jump in on this too.

21:35.666 --> 21:37.866 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
I don't care who answers it.

21:37.866 --> 21:40.466 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
Had several questions on
Douglas fir and spruce,

21:40.466 --> 21:44.233 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
they've noticed that
starting last winter,

21:44.233 --> 21:47.366 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
many needles turned red,
and started to fall off.

21:47.366 --> 21:48.866 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
What happened, and why?

21:48.866 --> 21:51.100 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
- If they're toward the
interior of the tree,

21:51.100 --> 21:52.566 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
that's natural.

21:52.566 --> 21:54.266 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
If it's not, send us a picture,

21:54.266 --> 21:56.533 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
and there's lots
and lots of reasons.

21:56.533 --> 21:59.900 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
- And some of it can
be desiccation too.

22:01.366 --> 22:02.933 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- Jane, from Billings,

22:02.933 --> 22:06.633 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
this person has a low
yellow-flowered weed,

22:06.633 --> 22:09.066 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
that they believe is alyssum.

22:09.066 --> 22:11.666 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
Is it noxious, and
is there a control?

22:11.666 --> 22:13.500 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
It's in his pasture.

22:13.500 --> 22:17.500 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
- Yeah, the person probably
has either yellow alyssum,

22:17.500 --> 22:19.400 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
or desert alyssum,

22:19.400 --> 22:23.566 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
and those are small light
yellow flowered annuals.

22:25.166 --> 22:27.433 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
They typically only
grow about that tall,

22:27.433 --> 22:30.266 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
depending on how much moisture,
what type of soil you have,

22:30.266 --> 22:32.866 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
but it is not a noxious weed.

22:32.866 --> 22:36.300 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
It is a species that has
been increasing in the state.

22:36.300 --> 22:38.600 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
It seems like every year
about this time of year,

22:38.600 --> 22:42.033 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
I receive quite a few
questions about it.

22:42.033 --> 22:44.666 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
It's not on a lot
of herbicide labels,

22:44.666 --> 22:48.733 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
but there are some products
that will work on it,

22:48.733 --> 22:52.066 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
that are approved for
range and pasture.

22:53.233 --> 22:55.433 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
I would just ask the
person to give me a call,

22:55.433 --> 22:58.233 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
and we can talk more about that.

22:58.233 --> 23:00.500 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
- And your number I think
is up on the screen?

23:00.500 --> 23:02.500 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
- [Jane] Yeah, 994-5513.

23:03.533 --> 23:05.566 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- I remember that.

23:05.566 --> 23:08.566 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
While I have you up,
everybody can jump on this.

23:08.566 --> 23:10.266 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
It's kind of interesting.

23:10.266 --> 23:11.466 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
From Belgrade, this person

23:11.466 --> 23:14.066 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
has a large amount
of horseradish,

23:14.066 --> 23:15.933 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
next to raised beds,

23:15.933 --> 23:18.966 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
and has been battling
it for several years,

23:18.966 --> 23:22.000 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
and horseradish can be
a little bit persistent.

23:22.000 --> 23:24.700 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
They've had no success,
have dug out roots,

23:24.700 --> 23:26.233 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
it still comes back.

23:26.233 --> 23:27.733 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
What would you do?

23:29.866 --> 23:34.033 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
- I would make more horseradish
and eat more beef, I guess.

23:35.433 --> 23:36.300 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
- If you're at a
point where you're

23:36.300 --> 23:37.700 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
pulling and pulling and pulling

23:37.700 --> 23:39.100 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
and you cannot get rid of it,

23:39.100 --> 23:41.033 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
then it sounds like
maybe this person

23:41.033 --> 23:43.400 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
doesn't want to use chemistry.

23:43.400 --> 23:45.833 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
You're probably having
to use a pesticide,

23:45.833 --> 23:47.500 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
and most likely glyphosate

23:47.500 --> 23:50.566 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
is gonna be the way
to get rid of it.

23:50.566 --> 23:52.700 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
The timing though,
would be interesting,

23:52.700 --> 23:55.433 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
if it's gonna be
now or in the fall,

23:55.433 --> 23:56.800 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
or even midsummer
when it's starting

23:56.800 --> 23:59.833 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
to move some of those sugars
back down to its root system,

23:59.833 --> 24:01.400 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
and probably would be better.

24:01.400 --> 24:02.633 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
If you really want
to get rid of it,

24:02.633 --> 24:04.900 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
I would probably do an
application this spring,

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come back, hit it
again in the fall,

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and see what happens
by next spring.

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- Yeah, that's what
I was gonna say.

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It seems like such
a hardy plant that

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I would guess you're
probably gonna have to do

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multiple applications
of glyphosate.

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- Okay, thank you.

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Jasmine, this person would
like to know of some examples

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of small grants for weed control
and who can receive those.

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Do you have a couple of examples

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of things that you have funded?

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- Sure, last year
we funded a grant,

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it was one of our
smallest, for only $700.

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It was a small group of
people in Phillips County,

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and they were really
having a hard time

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battling houndstongue.

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And so they applied,
they got enough money,

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and they did just
a big huge day,

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where everyone went
out and sprayed,

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and it was more
not to get a handle

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on all the
houndstongue they had,

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but to really get
people involved,

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and just start knowing
things about noxious weeds,

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and what they can do.

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We've had smaller grants.

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There's one in Beaverhead
County, in Argenta.

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And that one's only a couple
thousand dollars every year,

25:17.066 --> 25:19.900 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
but they just keep
growing their perimeter.

25:19.900 --> 25:22.433 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
So they'll handle their weeds
that they've started doing,

25:22.433 --> 25:24.866 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
and then just go
further out every year.

25:24.866 --> 25:27.000 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
So it's just all
they can afford,

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but they're doing something.

25:28.666 --> 25:29.500 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
- [Jack] And it's helping.

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- [Jasmine] It's
helping, definitely.

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- Good, thank you.

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From Missoula,
both Toby and Mary,

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this person has a mountain
ash tree with fire blight,

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and Mary I'll ask you what is
the best way to control that?

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And for Toby, what type of
bird-friendly berry trees

25:47.600 --> 25:51.100 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
can she replace her
mountain ash with?

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You first.

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- So, control, first
prune while it's dormant,

25:55.933 --> 25:59.100 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
and be sure to sanitize
your pruning equipment

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between each cut so
you don't spread it,

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and plan on replacing.

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Again at this meeting
last week, we talked about

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bacteria phages, for
fire blight control.

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There are products that are

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going to be coming
on the market,

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but those are only for
prevention of bloom infection.

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- Okay.

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Bird-friendly berries.

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- Berries, well, strawberries,

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but that doesn't replace a tree.

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- [Jack] Robin's love 'em.

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- Yeah, robins
absolutely love 'em.

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One that might be
more than a shrub,

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I'm thinking of a tree
form, and that's difficult,

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because we don't have
a whole lot of berries.

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But chokecherries would
definitely be one.

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Some of the
different buckthorns.

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Anything that's in the
cutagus probably would

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feed a lot of different birds.

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- [Jack] My robins
love my chokecherries.

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- Yeah, chockcherries
for sure, would be one.

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Again, we can find some
tree forms, like schubert,

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and Canada red, that
will produce berries,

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and the birds will eat them.

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But for the most part
the chokecherries

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they're going after
is more shrub form.

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So expect that you're
probably gonna get

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not as many berries
with the tree forms.

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- Jack, could I make a comment?

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Toby mentioned buckthorn,

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and I don't know which buckthorn
you were talking about,

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but actually common buckthorn

27:15.266 --> 27:17.566 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
was just added to our
noxious weed list.

27:17.566 --> 27:21.733 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
So common buckthorn has been
a real issue in the Midwest,

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mostly, the upper Midwest.

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And there are areas in Montana,

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especially along riparian areas

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where common buckthorn
was probably planted

27:34.433 --> 27:37.333 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
at some point as a
horticultural species,

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and now has spread in
those riparian areas,

27:39.466 --> 27:43.633 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
and it was petitioned and
added to the noxious weed list,

27:44.666 --> 27:47.266 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
in February I believe it was.

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- Well, I'll retract that.

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I had no idea.

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- And I don't know,

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sometimes other species
are called buckthorn

27:56.400 --> 27:58.666 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
that may not be
the same exact one

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that we're talking about here.

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But yeah, good to know.

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- Jane, you're
on, from Forsythe,

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and I like this one because
I know this is a tough weed.

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Any new ideas on how to get rid

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of bindweed in
vegetable gardens?

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For that matter,
bindweed anyplace.

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- Yeah.

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- Morning glory.

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- Yeah.

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So, a group of us at MSU
have just been doing,

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we call it a meta analysis,
looking at all the literature

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that's been published
over the years

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on controlling field bindweed,

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in both perennial
systems and crop systems.

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And that was a project
that was supported

28:41.733 --> 28:44.700 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
by some funds from the
Noxious Weed Trust Fund.

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We're just kind of
wrapping up that analysis,

28:47.333 --> 28:48.566 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
but one of the important things

28:48.566 --> 28:51.633 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
about field bindweed
that we've learned,

28:51.633 --> 28:55.566 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
is that integrated
methods are a must.

28:55.566 --> 28:58.533 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
Looking at, even using
herbicides longterm

28:58.533 --> 29:01.366 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
does not give you control
of field bindweed.

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Or tilling longterm does
not give you control.

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The integration
of multiple tools,

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is the only way that you can get

29:10.000 --> 29:14.266 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
any sort of longterm
control of field bindweed.

29:14.266 --> 29:16.533 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
- Are there any Noxious
Weed Trust Fund grants

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looking at bindweed,
or addressing bindweed

29:19.366 --> 29:20.800 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
that you can recall?

29:20.800 --> 29:23.333 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
- Not currently,
not in our research.

29:23.333 --> 29:24.833 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
There are several local coops

29:24.833 --> 29:26.733 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
that have bindweed
on their list,

29:26.733 --> 29:30.133 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
that they used trust
fund dollars to control.

29:30.133 --> 29:31.600 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
- I understand that,
maybe I'm wrong,

29:31.600 --> 29:33.133 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
I mean that's just
something I've heard

29:33.133 --> 29:35.333 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
through just conversations,

29:35.333 --> 29:39.500 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
that if you continually hoe
out or weed field bindweed,

29:41.400 --> 29:43.966 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
every 10 days, making
sure that you get every

29:43.966 --> 29:46.866 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
green part of it,
for three years,

29:46.866 --> 29:48.900 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
you can eradicate it.

29:48.900 --> 29:50.266 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
Is that something that?

29:50.266 --> 29:52.100 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
- I have heard that as well,

29:52.100 --> 29:54.666 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
and I think it probably
has its application

29:54.666 --> 29:57.333 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
in certain places, like gardens.

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The research we were
doing looked more at like

30:03.466 --> 30:05.666 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
perennial pasture systems,

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or larger cropping systems.

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And I think that is
an effective method.

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One of the issues we face
in cropping systems anyway,

30:15.066 --> 30:19.766 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
is we've moved the importance
of conserving soil,

30:19.766 --> 30:21.233 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
and no-till.

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It takes that, that's
fairly intensive tilling,

30:23.866 --> 30:26.600 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
it kind of takes
that off the table,

30:26.600 --> 30:28.466 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
but I think for garden settings,

30:28.466 --> 30:31.300 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
that's a great approach.

30:31.300 --> 30:33.800 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
- There used to be for pastures,

30:33.800 --> 30:36.133 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
I think a product
called Paramount,

30:36.133 --> 30:39.233 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
that did a really
good job on bindweed.

30:39.233 --> 30:40.833 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
I don't know if that's
registered anywhere,

30:40.833 --> 30:41.766 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
do you know?

30:41.766 --> 30:44.266 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- Yeah, I think we
had this conversation

30:44.266 --> 30:45.266 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
a couple of years ago,

30:45.266 --> 30:47.400 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
and I looked it up afterwards

30:47.400 --> 30:49.966 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
and couldn't find any
information on it,

30:49.966 --> 30:51.600 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
but yeah I don't

30:51.600 --> 30:52.466 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
recall for sure.
- Probably not out

30:52.466 --> 30:54.133 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
there anymore.

30:54.133 --> 30:57.833 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
Comment, and I like anybody
who wants to supply a comment,

30:57.833 --> 30:59.466 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
we'll sure put it up.

30:59.466 --> 31:01.533 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
This came from Powell, Wyoming,

31:01.533 --> 31:05.433 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
and they have a special method
of controlling horseradish.

31:05.433 --> 31:08.133 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
This person piled his
woodpile on top of it,

31:08.133 --> 31:09.300 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
and it worked.

31:10.366 --> 31:11.666 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
So thank you woodpile.

31:11.666 --> 31:13.833 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- Just bury it and
forget about it.

31:13.833 --> 31:15.000 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
- I like that.

31:17.233 --> 31:20.300 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
- Mary, this person has
an old caragana bush

31:20.300 --> 31:23.666 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
that she cut to the ground
because of dead limbs.

31:23.666 --> 31:26.666 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
Can she deep-fertilize
it to get it to regrow?

31:26.666 --> 31:28.700 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
Or Toby, or whoever
wants to jump on that?

31:28.700 --> 31:29.966 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- Toby might know.

31:29.966 --> 31:32.866 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
- Actually there was some
research that was done

31:32.866 --> 31:36.100 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
by a former extension agent
up in Havre I believe,

31:36.100 --> 31:38.066 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
that found that if
you burn the area,

31:38.066 --> 31:41.133 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
you would actually
get regeneration,

31:41.133 --> 31:42.900 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
so if you had a caragana hedge,

31:42.900 --> 31:45.200 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
if you have the
ability to burn it,

31:45.200 --> 31:47.833 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
that you would get
faster regeneration.

31:47.833 --> 31:51.133 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
As far as fertilizer, I
mean, if it needs fertilizer,

31:51.133 --> 31:53.533 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
if it looks sclerotic,
you might put some down,

31:53.533 --> 31:55.900 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
but for the most part,
they're pretty good at getting

31:55.900 --> 31:57.733 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
the nutrients they need.

31:57.733 --> 32:01.800 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
So I don't think fertilizer
is gonna make it grow faster.

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That being said, it
wouldn't hurt anything

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if you put a complete
fertilizer down,

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just be careful how
much you put down,

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and be careful what you ask for.

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You put enough fertilizer
down on a caragana,

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and the next thing you
know it's 10 feet tall,

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and you're overgrowing
your whole yard.

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- That's not impossible.

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You're right, thank you.

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Another follow up question, and

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this came in from Charlo.

32:25.966 --> 32:29.066 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
To keep elk from rubbing
their antlers on trees,

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you rub the trees with knapweed.

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The elk don't like the smell,
and will leave the trees.

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Is that true?

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- I have no idea.

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As long as they're
pulling their knapweed,

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and then using it
to rub the trees,

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they're controlling weeds

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and possibly elk
in the same stroke.

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- Another question.

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- Going back to that though,

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I do know, I have
friends of mine that,

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take wild plants and rub it
all over their camouflage

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when they're elk hunting.

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So if it's gonna keep it away,

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then be careful not to put the
knapweed on your camouflage,

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because then you're gonna
be a pretty horrible hunter.

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You'll never see one.

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- Have you been successful
recently hunting elk.

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- No, no.

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But it does go back to,
there's a lot of anecdotal

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information out there,

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and to say that this does
not work, I can't say that.

33:22.400 --> 33:23.966 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
But I also can't say
that it does work.

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I don't that there's
anything science,

33:25.733 --> 33:27.300 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
that's been applied
to putting knapweed

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on trees to keep elk out,

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but it does spur some interest
in my thought process.

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- I like what Jane says,

33:34.800 --> 33:36.533 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
at least they're
pulling their knapweed.

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- [Toby] Yes, exactly.

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- Another question from Charlo,

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this caller has
seen noxious weeds

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on federal lands
and reservations.

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Is there any way to compel
them to do something about it,

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and in that respect,
are there any

33:51.200 --> 33:53.800 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
Noxious Weed Trust Fund
grants on reservations,

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or federal lands?

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- They are not specific.

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Each reservation has
their own weed program,

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so just like the counties.

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Whether or not they
have enough funding,

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just like some of
the federal agencies,

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to control all their
weeds, and do enough,

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that's another question.

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But yes, we have reservations
that have grants.

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Quite a few of the
Blackfeet, and Rocky Boys,

34:21.733 --> 34:24.166 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
both have grants with us.

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And a lot of our
federal agencies,

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and our federal
lands, public lands,

34:29.033 --> 34:32.033 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
are cooperators in
our projects too.

34:33.566 --> 34:36.200 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- Can you force people
on federal lands

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to control their noxious weeds?

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- Well, I guess one of
the things I would say is,

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as people that use public lands,

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we have a responsibility
as well to

34:49.466 --> 34:53.766 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
avoid driving through weed
infestations if we see them.

34:53.766 --> 34:55.266 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
I mean if we're
hiking on a trail,

34:55.266 --> 34:58.233 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
and we see some knapweed plants
go ahead, or houndstongue,

34:58.233 --> 34:59.966 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
especially at the trail head,

34:59.966 --> 35:02.500 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
take some time and pull those.

35:02.500 --> 35:05.733 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
Arrive at a trail
head with clean gear,

35:07.133 --> 35:09.200 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
and clean equipment, or vehicle,

35:09.200 --> 35:13.066 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
so you are not actually
moving weeds around,

35:13.066 --> 35:16.133 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
or if you leave an
area that's infested,

35:16.133 --> 35:17.466 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
clean your gear and your vehicle

35:17.466 --> 35:19.233 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
before you go to a
non-infested area.

35:19.233 --> 35:21.600 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
So I think in a lot of cases,

35:21.600 --> 35:24.800 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
these species are moving faster
than we can control them.

35:24.800 --> 35:26.866 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
I think that's pretty obvious.

35:26.866 --> 35:30.566 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:24.38%
And funds are
typically not adequate

35:30.566 --> 35:32.166 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
to manage all the weeds,

35:32.166 --> 35:35.566 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
so I think we have to
do our part as well,

35:35.566 --> 35:39.166 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
as people that use
the public lands.

35:39.166 --> 35:40.733 align:start position:40.62% line:10% size:18.75%
- I agree.

35:40.733 --> 35:43.900 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
While that's up, we
have a question here.

35:43.900 --> 35:45.333 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
Jasmine and Jane,

35:46.566 --> 35:50.666 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
what's the difference between
a weed and a noxious weed?

35:50.666 --> 35:51.466 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- I'll let Jasmine

35:51.466 --> 35:52.300 align:start position:40.62% line:10% size:18.75%
take that.
- A weed

35:52.300 --> 35:54.566 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
is anything you don't want.

35:54.566 --> 35:58.433 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
So, and dandelions
is the common one.

35:58.433 --> 36:01.266 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
Some people think
dandelions are very weedy,

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and other people love
them in their salads.

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So it just depends.

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Noxious is actually,

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a state-listed weed,
that is detrimental

36:11.366 --> 36:14.500 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
to agriculture, commerce,
all these things,

36:14.500 --> 36:18.900 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
it's actually in our state
statute, that it's noxious.

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- Are all your grants
specifically for noxious weeds,

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or weeds that are classified
as noxious, rather than,

36:26.033 --> 36:27.633 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
- Obnoxious?
- Obnoxious weeds.

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Good term.

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- Yes, they have to
be a noxious weed,

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or a county-listed noxious weed.

36:33.633 --> 36:37.500 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
So there are counties that list
henbane, and common mullein,

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things like that
that are noxious,

36:39.100 --> 36:41.266 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
they're not native
to this state,

36:41.266 --> 36:42.733 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
but they're not on our list.

36:42.733 --> 36:44.000 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- Okay, thank you.

36:44.000 --> 36:45.800 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
- [Toby] How do they
get on the list?

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- There's a whole process.

36:46.933 --> 36:50.100 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
Every two years, we go through
a weed listing process.

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There's a whole group,
Jane's on that panel.

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So a petition, an
announcement goes out,

36:56.500 --> 37:00.933 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
that MDA is accepting
petitions for new weeds.

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You go through a list,

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it's the whole form
that you fill out.

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You do research,
present it to the group,

37:07.300 --> 37:09.700 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
and then if they need
more information,

37:09.700 --> 37:11.300 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
they can ask you to find more,

37:11.300 --> 37:14.000 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
and then it just gets voted on,

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and goes to the
Director of Agriculture.

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- Yeah, and we have
a list of criteria.

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There's about I think
16 or 17 questions,

37:21.766 --> 37:26.400 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
that the working group
evaluates the species against.

37:26.400 --> 37:29.366 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
And some of the things
we look at are like,

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do neighboring states
have it listed?

37:31.200 --> 37:33.533 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
How many acres are in
neighboring states?

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How many acres are in Montana?

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Does it have any
toxic qualities?

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We also ask if it
has any beneficial,

37:41.600 --> 37:43.566 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
any beneficial qualities?

37:43.566 --> 37:46.666 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
For example,
pollinator resources.

37:46.666 --> 37:50.733 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
So yeah, there's a fairly
extensive list of criteria

37:50.733 --> 37:53.533 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
that a species is
evaluated against.

37:53.533 --> 37:55.133 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
- Okay, thank you guys.

37:55.133 --> 37:56.933 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
Mary, from Ulm,

37:56.933 --> 38:00.466 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
this person would like to know
if there are any effective

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biological seed treatments
that help to prevent disease

38:04.366 --> 38:08.466 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
in organic pulse crops,
peas, lentils, chickpeas?

38:09.366 --> 38:13.266 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
- None that we have tried that
have had any field efficacy.

38:13.266 --> 38:15.866 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
I've talked to my
colleagues in Washington,

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and they've speculated that
since most of these products

38:18.400 --> 38:21.466 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
were developed for
the Midwestern, like

38:21.466 --> 38:24.433 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
that are cool soils,
and high pH's,

38:24.433 --> 38:26.866 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
they don't work
very effectively.

38:26.866 --> 38:27.833 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
And like we were
talking about earlier,

38:27.833 --> 38:29.966 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
with biological controls,
it's not a plus-minus,

38:29.966 --> 38:34.966 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
it's a cumulative process, as
part of an integrated system.

38:34.966 --> 38:38.166 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
- On that note, I've seen
a lot of press recently

38:38.166 --> 38:40.966 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
on products called
biostimulants.

38:41.900 --> 38:45.133 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
Is anybody at MSU doing
any work on biostimulants,

38:45.133 --> 38:46.066 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
at the current time?

38:46.066 --> 38:48.466 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
- It's interesting
how that's defined.

38:48.466 --> 38:52.433 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
And I'm trying to remember
what they called it.

38:52.433 --> 38:53.733 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
I just went through a
whole workshop last week

38:53.733 --> 38:56.333 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
with the IR core project.

38:56.333 --> 38:57.266 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
I don't know, do
you know of anybody

38:57.266 --> 38:58.733 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
working on biostimulants?

38:58.733 --> 38:59.800 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
- Are they actually products

38:59.800 --> 39:03.233 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
that like stimulate, beneficial.

39:03.233 --> 39:04.333 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
- [Jack] Stimulate yield.

39:04.333 --> 39:08.500 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
They're claimed to increase
yield, and grow crops,

39:09.900 --> 39:11.766 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
and in some cases wheat.

39:11.766 --> 39:13.100 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
And it's a whole new,

39:13.100 --> 39:14.600 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
you see a lot about anymore,

39:14.600 --> 39:16.666 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
but I don't know of any
work being done here,

39:16.666 --> 39:18.466 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
or any products here
for that matter,

39:18.466 --> 39:19.600 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
that are really being offered.

39:19.600 --> 39:21.100 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
- I'd have to look into it.

39:21.100 --> 39:22.366 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- Okay, let's do that.

39:22.366 --> 39:23.300 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
Next time you're on,

39:23.300 --> 39:26.633 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
let's talk a little
about biostimulants.

39:27.533 --> 39:31.033 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
From Libby, Jane this is
really a good question.

39:31.033 --> 39:33.833 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
Why are dandelions
classified as a weed,

39:33.833 --> 39:38.100 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
when they such an important
source of pollen for bees?

39:38.100 --> 39:41.300 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
- Well I think
Jasmine's comment,

39:41.300 --> 39:42.633 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
just a couple of minutes ago,

39:42.633 --> 39:44.533 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
that a weed is defined,

39:45.900 --> 39:48.033 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
some people like dandelions,
some people don't.

39:48.033 --> 39:52.200 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
And a weed is, it's a
matter of someone's opinion.

39:53.200 --> 39:55.500 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
Dandelions are not
a noxious weed,

39:55.500 --> 39:58.366 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
in the sense that landowners
are required to have

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a management program
for dealing with them.

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So, yeah I guess I don't
know what else to say

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about that particular question,

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other than it is a
matter of perspective,

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and dandelions are
not a state-listed,

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or a county-listed
noxious weed anywhere.

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- [Jack] It's personal choice.

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- It's personal choice.

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- And they may be a pollinator,
but in my strawberries,

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I don't care.

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I spent a good half hour,

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and got maybe a third of the
way through my strawberries,

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just taking out the dandelions.

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- I always feel like
there's a bit of karma,

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like I have controlled the
weeds and dandelions in my lawn,

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but I plant lots of
wildflowers in my garden,

40:40.500 --> 40:42.800 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
and they're non-mode parts.

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- Yeah, that's a good point,

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that you can do other things
with perennial flowers

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and whatnot to provide
pollinator habitat

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in your yard and gardens.

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- Dandelions are, quite
honestly, they really are

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a good pollinator
early on in the season.

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I don't think that
there's a lack

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of dandelions out there though.

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- I don't think so.

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- Something that I'm really
not too worried about,

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since bees can forage
two to three miles

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or whatever it is, they're
gonna find some dandelions,

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even if they're not in my yard.

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- I don't have many,
but there's a few.

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- Jasmine, if you get a
Noxious Weed Trust Fund grant,

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what's the reporting
requirements for that grant,

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and how often do
they need to report?

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- Sure, so there's
two reporting periods,

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a fall, and then a spring,

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so if you get a grant,
you are awarded in April.

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You then have a
November reporting,

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and it's just on
that section of time.

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So what was done from
April to November.

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And then it goes from
November to April,

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and then whenever you
finish your grant.

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You're awarded for 18 months,

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so whenever it's completed,

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it doesn't have
to take that long,

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then you do a final report.

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- Are those reports available

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for anybody who would
like to see them?

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- I could pull those reports.

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They're not out in the public.

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They're through our database,

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that all of our grants
are run through.

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- So if a viewer had specific
interest in Canada thistle,

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and they wanted to see what

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the Noxious Weed
Trust Fund grants did

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in helping to control
Canada thistle,

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they could get a hold
of you and get that?

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- Absolutely, I can pull
some information for them.

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- And on weed control,
from Kalispell,

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this is a good one.

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Is there a chemical control
to get rid of unwanted lilacs?

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- I might let Toby
answer that question.

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- Like we said, one
person's prized plant

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may be another person's weed.

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Yeah, actually going
back to glyphosate again,

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as soon as you cut
it, cut it back,

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and then paint each
one of the stems.

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Within probably, I mean as
quick as you possibly can.

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I think original Roundup
has it on its label,

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but I'm sure there are others.

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Straight glyphosate,
not even watered down,

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when I heard this from one
of my master gardeners,

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I actually questioned
it, and said, no way,

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that can't be on the label.

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And then I went back
and looked on the label,

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and it sure is.

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So any tree, or anything
that you cut down,

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you can paint with
original Roundup,

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or other products.
- Full concentrate, right?

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- And I've done that in my yard,

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because I have a lot
of volunteer green ash

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that's coming up, and
so that'll be something

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that's being done here
very soon in my yard.

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- There's a question here on
the new Roundup for lawns,

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and they want to know, will
that control things like

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your suckers from poplar
and so forth and so on.

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- Yeah it will.

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- I would have to look, I
haven't read the full label.

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But I have glanced at the label,

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and it's a fairly complex label,

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there's a lot of different
species listed on there,

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and a lot of different uses.

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- It has caught a
lot of us off-guard,

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that this got on the market,

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without really any
knowledge coming to us

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so that we could really
make recommendations,

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because of the label.

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I have not looked at the label.

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My colleagues haven't.

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This is actually the first
time I've seen a bottle of it.

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So it's gonna take a
little bit of time for us

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to come up with proper
recommendations, on this.

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- Okay, thanks Toby.

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- Mary, from Townsend,

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are fungicides
cost-effective in alfalfa?

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There's a lot of good alfalfa
grown around Townsend.

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- I would say, maybe.

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We don't have any data.

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I'd say if there is
a fungal problem,

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that the fungicide would
deal with it, maybe.

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But watch the labels
pretty carefully

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about what is allowed.

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- Are there any
fungicides currently?

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- Yeah, Headline, and
there's probably some more.

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But I'd have to
contact Emily Glunk,

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and she may be doing
some research on it,

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I'm not quite sure.

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- From Rapelje, Toby,

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this person has 100 Chinese
elm trees in his garden,

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and would like to
transplant them.

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Will this work?

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- Yes, but I would
not do it right now.

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You'll probably want
to wait until fall,

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after the leaves have
fallen off of those.

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Or, first thing in the spring

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before they start to bud out.

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As soon as they break bud,

45:09.766 --> 45:11.566 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
in other words, the
buds are broken,

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I'm sure in Rapelje they
probably already have,

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and that's gonna be too late.

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Your success rate is
gonna go in the tank,

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if you tried to transplant them

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from now until the leaves fall.

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- Well you just made that
viewer's spring a lot easier.

45:26.800 --> 45:27.633 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
A lot less work.

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- [Toby] I like
questions from Rapelje.

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- Be careful out there
when you reach down though,

45:31.466 --> 45:33.400 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
because there's a lot
of buzzers up there.

45:33.400 --> 45:34.233 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
- Are there?

45:34.233 --> 45:36.266 align:start position:40.62% line:10% size:18.75%
- A lot of
rattlesnakes up there.

45:36.266 --> 45:38.200 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- I've actually always
wanted to go up there.

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The people that sit
right in front of me

45:39.833 --> 45:42.133 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
at the Bobcat game
are from Rapelje,

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and I've always wanted
to go to that area.

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- It's a pretty area.

45:45.733 --> 45:47.366 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
- Now you might have
went and told me

45:47.366 --> 45:49.466 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
that I don't want to
if there's buzzers.

45:49.466 --> 45:52.466 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
- Use caution around Rapelje.

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- Comment from Havre,
now I have heard of this,

45:54.833 --> 45:58.200 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
and theoretically this
is old school, it works.

45:58.200 --> 45:59.966 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
To keep deer out of trees,

45:59.966 --> 46:02.500 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
they put Irish Spring
soap in a sock,

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and hang it in the trees.

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Have you heard of that one?

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- I have heard of it.

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I've had people
that have done it.

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I even had one instance of
a person that had tried it,

46:11.633 --> 46:12.466 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
put it in the tree,

46:12.466 --> 46:13.800 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
and it just attracted the deer,

46:13.800 --> 46:15.500 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
and the deer ate the soap.

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(panelists laughing)

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So, just like anything else,

46:20.900 --> 46:23.366 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
I think it lasts for a
certain amount of time,

46:23.366 --> 46:24.666 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
and then the deer
get used to it,

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and then it's not an issue.

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- [Jack] Then it's lunch.

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- Yeah, really.

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Short periods of
time, two weeks.

46:31.633 --> 46:33.100 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
- In other words,
you're not gonna stand

46:33.100 --> 46:34.433 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
by that recommendation.

46:34.433 --> 46:35.333 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
- I'm not, yeah.

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I think it works for a
short amount of time,

46:37.400 --> 46:39.066 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
but the deer are pretty smart.

46:39.066 --> 46:40.833 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
They'll figure it out.

46:40.833 --> 46:43.700 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
- Jasmine, this
person wants to know

46:43.700 --> 46:46.400 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
if there's grants available for,

46:49.033 --> 46:52.600 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
basically pulling
weeds, noxious weeds,

46:52.600 --> 46:56.766 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
instead of using herbicides
and so forth and so on.

46:56.766 --> 47:00.800 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
- Well, I'm not sure what
you'd need money for that.

47:00.800 --> 47:02.833 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
Maybe supplies.

47:02.833 --> 47:04.333 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
A lot of our local coop grants

47:04.333 --> 47:06.466 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
do have a weed-pull day.

47:06.466 --> 47:10.000 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
They'll get everybody
in the cooperative area,

47:10.000 --> 47:13.133 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
or CWMA, which is just
a group of people that

47:13.133 --> 47:15.600 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
have adjoining lands
that have grouped up,

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and made a management
plan for themselves.

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And that's what our
local coops go to.

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So that is incorporated
into a lot of them.

47:23.900 --> 47:25.666 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
They'll just have day
where they'll barbecue,

47:25.666 --> 47:28.633 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
and have everybody come with
a bag and gloves, and pull.

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- You just mentioned CWMA.

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What is that?

47:31.300 --> 47:33.266 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- That's a cooperative
weed management area.

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- Okay, sounds good.

47:36.033 --> 47:38.133 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
As a follow up,
from Great Falls,

47:38.133 --> 47:41.333 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
this person would like
to know, Jane or Jasmine,

47:41.333 --> 47:43.500 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
what noxious weeds
have been eliminated

47:43.500 --> 47:46.666 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
or substantially
reduced in the state?

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- You want me to take that one?

47:49.133 --> 47:49.966 align:start position:42.5% line:10% size:13.13%
- Yeah.

47:49.966 --> 47:51.800 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- We can co-attack it.

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Well, a couple that
I can think of,

47:55.266 --> 47:59.866 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
well one is dyers woad, and
there's been a cooperative,

47:59.866 --> 48:02.433 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
a dyers woad cooperative
eradication project

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in Montana for 20 plus years,

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many of those years supported by

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the Noxious Weed Trust Fund.

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So that's a species that
we've actually eradicated,

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locations across the state,

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and kept other infestations
from getting any larger.

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And that's a real
accomplishment,

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because dyers woad is
just across our border,

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especially in
southwestern Montana,

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down into Idaho.

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Common crupina was
a species that was

48:32.800 --> 48:35.200 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
on the state noxious
weed list for many years,

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and was actually taken
off the noxious weed list,

48:37.933 --> 48:41.433 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
about maybe seven
years ago, or so,

48:41.433 --> 48:43.766 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
when we just
determined that Montana

48:43.766 --> 48:46.000 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
doesn't have the
habitat for that.

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We'd been watching for it,

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and we've kind of
determined that Montana

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doesn't have the habitat
for it to establish.

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Jasmine, I don't know if
you can think of any others?

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- The dyers woad,
we have task forces

48:57.666 --> 49:00.933 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
for a lot of our
really aggressive weeds

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that are really isolated,
our priority one A and B's.

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And so, like dyers
woad is one of them.

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We have a person that's
in charge of that project,

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and so she knows where
all of the dyers woad is,

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in Montana.

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Same with yellow star thistle.

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There's been a few
plants here and there,

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and we've eradicated
those from the state,

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but we're always watching.

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- Okay, thank you.

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Mary, interesting
question that actually

49:29.566 --> 49:32.000 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
came in last week, I
just found it again.

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This person has a conifer,
doesn't say what type,

49:34.833 --> 49:38.300 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
that lost all the bark from
three foot above the ground,

49:38.300 --> 49:40.066 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
to 20 foot high.

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The bark fell off
is on the ground.

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Has horizontal lines
also in the tree.

49:46.000 --> 49:49.733 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
What is it, and will it
happen to the other trees?

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Sample, right?

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- That's a great question.

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Call 994-5150.

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Email pictures to
diagnostics@montana.edu,

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or contact your local
county extension office.

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We'll try to figure it out.

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- [Jack] It's kind
of interesting.

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- That is an interesting one.

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- [Jack] I have no clue
what that might be.

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- The horizontal
lines makes me think

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it might be a sapsucker.

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- [Jack] Sapsucker, yeah.

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- That's something that
you might want to search

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on a search engine,
sapsucker damage,

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and that way you'd get
a better understanding,

50:17.500 --> 50:21.066 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
but whenever I hear
lines, it's usually.

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- [Jack] Especially horizontal.

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- Especially horizontal.

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- Okay Jasmine, from Billings,

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it used to be that
a certain percentage

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of sales of commercial
ag chemicals

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would go into the trust fund.

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Is this still true?

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- Nope, that was true
when the trust fund

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was first started,

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when I think the cap
was five million.

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So as soon as the
trust hit five million,

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that surcharge was taken off.

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The legislature added
another five million,

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and that made our 10.

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- Okay, thank you.

50:51.533 --> 50:52.366 align:start position:40.62% line:10% size:16.88%
Fromberg,

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this person wants to know,

50:56.400 --> 50:58.433 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
and they probably had
worms in their apple trees,

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but they want to know
when, and what to apply

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for both insects and diseases

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in apples to prevent bad apples.

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- I think we need a
little bit more specific,

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we have to actually
identify the pests

51:12.900 --> 51:13.833 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
that they're dealing with

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before we make any
sort of recommendation.

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- Up in the Fromberg area,

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I think the biggest issue
is probably kotaline moth.

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And we're actually gonna
be putting out ag alerts

51:21.833 --> 51:24.900 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
on kotaline moth, because I
know that we're gonna be doing

51:24.900 --> 51:27.400 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
some trapping all
over the state,

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to figure out when to start
spraying with those products.

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And in kotaline moth,
spenocid followed

51:34.233 --> 51:35.466 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
with I think a permethrin,

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is usually what we're
recommending at this point.

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- And that brings up,

51:39.133 --> 51:41.966 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
we're also trying to
use our Facebook page

51:41.966 --> 51:43.700 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
for the Scutter Lab to
get those alerts out.

51:43.700 --> 51:45.900 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
There's an urban alert
you can sign up for,

51:45.900 --> 51:47.666 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
by email and text,

51:47.666 --> 51:49.766 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
or the ag alerts
by email and text.

51:49.766 --> 51:52.600 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
And then a few of us
have started tweeting.

51:52.600 --> 51:53.766 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
- [Toby] No!

51:53.766 --> 51:55.166 align:start position:44.38% line:10% size:11.25%
- Yes.

51:55.166 --> 51:57.066 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
- Who else has Twitter?

51:59.066 --> 52:02.200 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
I thought we were immune
to that in Montana.

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The whole country
talks about Twitter.

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- Well, my Midwestern colleagues

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said that it was a really good
way to get information out.

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- [Jack] What's wrong
with the telephone?

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- That's really passe.

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- Nobody answers their phone,

52:18.033 --> 52:21.400 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
no one answers
their phone anymore.

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- We're gonna have to get
Jack to start tweeting.

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- I got an unlimited
texting plan, finally.

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- All right, let's move on

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to Jane, for knapweed
and houndstongue,

52:30.600 --> 52:33.300 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
what chemicals can
they use to control,

52:33.300 --> 52:36.100 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
and when should they
apply those chemicals.

52:36.100 --> 52:38.933 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- Well there's lots of
options for knapweed.

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I'm assuming this is
range and pasture,

52:41.266 --> 52:43.300 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
but I probably shouldn't
make that assumption.

52:43.300 --> 52:46.166 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
But the recommendations
I would make,

52:46.166 --> 52:47.700 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
are based on range and pasture,

52:47.700 --> 52:48.966 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
but clopyralid,

52:51.100 --> 52:52.200 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:24.38%
aminopyralid,

52:54.033 --> 52:55.933 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
what am I missing?

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Those are two good ones.

52:57.466 --> 52:58.300 align:start position:40.62% line:10% size:16.88%
Picloram.

52:59.533 --> 53:02.666 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
The same herbicides that
affect knapweed will not

53:02.666 --> 53:04.233 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
touch houndstongue.

53:06.300 --> 53:08.100 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:39.38%
And the best products
for houndstongue

53:08.100 --> 53:10.200 align:start position:38.75% line:10% size:22.5%
is something
containing metsulfuron.

53:10.200 --> 53:11.300 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60%
And there are products out there

53:11.300 --> 53:14.266 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
that have two different
active ingredients

53:14.266 --> 53:16.700 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
that would affect both.

53:16.700 --> 53:19.766 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
- Can you dig houndstongue
pretty effectively.

53:19.766 --> 53:20.600 align:start position:44.38% line:10% size:11.25%
- Yes.

53:20.600 --> 53:22.466 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
It's lots of fun.

53:22.466 --> 53:24.566 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
It's my favorite weed to pull.

53:24.566 --> 53:27.566 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
Yeah, so if you
don't have very much.

53:27.566 --> 53:30.800 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
Pulling both knapweed and
houndstongue are feasible.

53:30.800 --> 53:33.033 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
- I get the feeling that
every time you go on a hike,

53:33.033 --> 53:35.333 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
or a float trip, that it
takes about an hour and a half

53:35.333 --> 53:37.200 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:56.25%
to get out of the parking lot.

53:37.200 --> 53:41.466 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
- Yeah, my husband doesn't
let me linger too long.

53:41.466 --> 53:44.033 align:start position:20% line:10% size:58.13%
But he'll amuse me for a while.

53:45.100 --> 53:48.933 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
- Jasmine, this person
would like to know,

53:48.933 --> 53:51.266 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
what the timeframe for small

53:52.500 --> 53:54.700 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
Noxious Weed Trust
Fund grants are.

53:54.700 --> 53:55.900 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:31.88%
When do yo apply?

53:55.900 --> 53:58.766 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:52.5%
- Sure, so our applications,
our funding opportunities

53:58.766 --> 54:00.866 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
go out in about June-July,

54:01.900 --> 54:03.333 align:start position:36.88% line:10% size:26.25%
usually at the
beginning of July.

54:03.333 --> 54:07.266 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
You have until January 6th
to fill out your application,

54:07.266 --> 54:08.466 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
and get that in.

54:08.466 --> 54:11.233 align:start position:35% line:10% size:28.13%
And that's done
at fundingmt.org.

54:12.833 --> 54:14.766 align:start position:21.88% line:10% size:54.38%
So you can fill it out there.

54:14.766 --> 54:16.966 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
And then if you apply,

54:16.966 --> 54:18.800 align:start position:23.75% line:10% size:50.63%
we have a hearing in March.

54:18.800 --> 54:21.666 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:43.13%
So you'll come in front
of our trust fund council,

54:21.666 --> 54:24.866 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
present your application,
or your project,

54:24.866 --> 54:27.366 align:start position:35% line:10% size:30%
and then funding
awards go out in April,

54:27.366 --> 54:29.666 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
and then you have 18
months to finish that.

54:29.666 --> 54:33.766 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:37.5%
- Okay, I appreciate
that, and thank you.

54:33.766 --> 54:36.000 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:45%
Is there a pretty simple
form for these people

54:36.000 --> 54:38.233 align:start position:31.25% line:10% size:35.63%
to fill out online?

54:38.233 --> 54:41.566 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:48.75%
- So our grants go through
some sort of organization,

54:41.566 --> 54:44.100 align:start position:33.12% line:10% size:33.75%
so the county weed
district extension,

54:44.100 --> 54:46.033 align:start position:29.38% line:10% size:41.25%
conservation district.

54:46.033 --> 54:49.433 align:start position:25.62% line:10% size:46.88%
We just need a group with
a firm accounting system

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for claims and reimbursements.

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- Thank you.

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Jane, we're about out of time,

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but I'm gonna give you
a quick one to answer.

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This person wants to get rid
of watercress in a creek.

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Any chemicals that can be used?

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- I have no idea.

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- [Jack] That is a
nice short answer.

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- Give me a call and
we can talk about it.

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Herbicides and water, you
have to be very careful.

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- Okay.

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Toby, quickly, when
can they plant garlic?

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Best time?

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- Best time's in the fall,

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but if you can get
it in the ground,

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get it in the ground,

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you probably can
still get garlic,

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in most of the state.

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- Thank you.

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Thank the panel.

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Jasmine, a special thanks
to you for coming down.

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We learned a lot about the
Noxious Weed Trust Fund tonight.

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We will be back next week.

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Our guest next week
will be Bob Quinn.

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Bob is one of the
most successful

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organic large-scale producers

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in the state of
Montana, from Big Sandy.

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Join us next week,
thanks for watching.

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Everyone have a good
week, goodnight.

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- [Announcer] Montana AG
Live is made possible by

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the Montana Department
of Agriculture,

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the MSU Extension Service,

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the MSU Ag Experiment Stations

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of the College of Agriculture,

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the Montana Wheat
& Barley Committee,

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the Montana Bankers Association,

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Cashman Nursery and Landscaping,

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and the Gallatin Gardeners Club.

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