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- Good evening.

Welcome to another new

 

edition of Montana AG Live.

Originating tonight

 

from our homes

in Montana beautiful

 

Gallatin Valley.

I'm Jack Riesselman, I'll

 

be your host this evening.

As you can see, we're

 

doing this virtually again,

this is our third effort

and we're actually

 

kind of enjoying it.

Although it's much more

 

fun to be in the studio

and have phone answers

 

there and the phone ringing.

Speaking of the phones,

 

that's important,

we need the questions because

this program would not have

 

been around for 25 years

had you as viewers, not

 

supplied questions of interest

to yourself and to other

 

people around the state.

So please phone in

 

those questions tonight

and we'll do our best

 

to get the answers

from this esteemed panel.

Let me introduce the panel.

First of all, Mary Burrows,

 

everybody knows Mary.

Mary raise your hand and

 

show them who you are.

Our special guest tonight

and we're really

 

happy to have him,

is our new Vice

 

President for Research,

Economic Development in

 

Graduate Studies, Jason Carter.

Jason came to us about

 

eight, nine months ago

from Michigan Tech based

 

in Horton, Michigan.

I'm not a Midwesterner anymore,

so I have a little trouble with

 

some of those Midwest names

but we'd like to welcome Jason.

He's gonna tell us a little

 

bit about what he does

and how it applies

 

to agriculture.

Laurie Kerzicnik, Laurie

 

is our entomologist.

We've got a lot of

 

insect questions folks

and we're gonna get to

 

a few of those tonight.

And of course, you

 

all know Perry Miller,

Perry is on every so often,

he's our Cropping

 

Systems Agronomist

and he's going to talk

 

to us a little bit about

some of the changes that

 

we're seeing in agriculture.

So before we get started

 

with the questions I have

and we have them

 

in from Facebook,

we're having a little

 

audio problems tonight

with the phones.

So if you have some

 

pertinent questions

you oughta email them

 

in, that will also work.

But before we move

 

into the questions,

let me have Jason, talk

 

to you a little bit about

the Vice President's

 

position here at MSU.

Little bit of his history,

I think he's kinesiologist,

 

I probably can't spell that

but tell us a little

 

bit about your history

and what you're

 

doing here at MSU.

- Yeah, thanks so much Jack

and thanks for inviting

 

me to the show.

It's been such a pleasure

to get to know people here

 

in Bozeman in Gallatin County

and hopefully I had planned

 

to do a lot of outreach

this spring semester

 

throughout the state,

that's been put to the side

 

but really enjoy your show

and thankful that you've

 

given me the opportunity

to be part of it.

As you mentioned,

I moved here with my

 

family back in September.

I was at Michigan Tech

 

University before that,

which is a a STEM

 

oriented University

not that very different from

 

Montana State to be honest.

Except that in Michigan,

 

Michigan State is our AG school

and our land grant,

but we do a lot of

 

work at Michigan Tech

and extension, and the

 

experimental stations.

There is experimental

 

station about two hours

to the west of Michigan Tech.

So I grew up in the Upper

 

Peninsula of Michigan and

there were really only about

 

two or three universities

I always kept an eye on.

I was always looking for a

 

place that had the right makeup

of programs in an area that I

 

thought I could contribute to

and then I wanted

 

to be around beauty

because I left a lot of beauty

 

and the Upper Peninsula.

I traded the waters for the

 

mountains but my family and I

were really excited when

the Montana State

 

position opened up.

And so happy to be here.

I can't wait to talk a

 

little bit in the show

about my impressions

 

of Montana State,

the faculty, the students

and the remarkable things

 

happening on campus.

So thanks for having me.

- Well it's a pleasure Jason

 

and we'll get back to you.

I do have some questions

 

that did come in via Facebook

and a couple email ones,

so we'll get to those

 

in a little bit.

But meanwhile,

 

Laurie from Bozeman,

this person has a bunch

 

of relatively new two

and three year old spruce trees

that the tips are dying back.

Any idea why?

 

- Yeah, that is probably

 

the White Pine Weevil

and that is a pest

 

that hits almost all of

our Colorado Blue

 

Spruce and spruce trees.

 

It's a small weevil and

 

adults come out in the spring

when the weather starts to warm,

they crawl up to the leader

 

of the tree and they lay eggs,

and then the eggs hatch and

 

they burrow into the wood.

And then mid summer, late

 

summer, they start to wilt.

The leaders start to wilt.

So then you start to

 

see that on some of

the rest of the tree

 

kind of competing,

the leaders competing

 

as codominant leaders.

So it's a little tricky to,

 

you could spray the terminal

with a contact spray and I

 

could help you with that,

and in any sort of context spray

that's labeled for

 

that tree will work.

 

There's also a systemic you

 

could apply in the spring called

and the active ingredient

 

is dynatratephron,

and it would have to

 

be applied now in order

for that to work.

So a little tricky to time

but it's also possible you

 

could really control just

by training a new leader.

You could cut out

 

where the damage is

and you could

 

train a new leader.

So you don't have to use

 

chemicals at all for this pest.

- I got several out

 

last year, it works.

But you do have to

 

train a new branch

to become the main leader.

- Yeah, you sure do.

 

- Jason, this question came

 

in via email from Conrad

 

and they would like to

 

know if your impressions

of Montana State University

 

experiment stations located

in six or seven different

 

locations around the state.

And they would like

 

to know do you plan

to attend any of the Field Days

 

if they are held this year?

- I mentioned that in my

 

opening comments there

that I was sent to go

 

with Dean Bourgeois

to a couple of the experimental

 

stations this spring.

In fact, we hesitated to even.

It was back I think

 

in January, February,

we had started planning

 

those for late February

or early March

and we kept them all the

 

way up until right before

the stay at home orders

 

got put into place.

But I'm really eager to get

 

out and get around the state,

and especially visit with

 

the experimental stations.

There's such great work

 

happening all around the state

in the AG stations and

 

I've been very impressed.

I'm very impressed

 

with the people,

the quality of the

 

research that's happening,

both here at the

 

mothership in Bozeman

and then all around the state.

So it is something

 

that I wanna get to

and I'm very hopeful that with

 

the count here in

 

Montana and the way

we seem to be

 

flattening the curve,

that there might be a

 

chance at some point

to having some of those events.

In a maintaining our

 

distance from one another,

wearing face coverings

 

if so be it but

if there are some of those

 

I will be trying to attend

and meet with people.

 

- I really enjoyed the

 

Field Days and Perry

you guys go to several of them.

 

Do you anticipate?

Have you heard anything at

 

all from any of the stations

about whether or not they're

 

considering delaying them

or maybe having them?

 

- I'll jump in

 

here for a second.

From what I hear they have not

 

been officially canceled yet,

they're hopeful but maybe that's

a couple week old information.

So I don't know if

 

that's actually accurate.

Mary might have

 

better information.

- I have not heard anything.

I think we live day

 

to day by policy.

 

- Mary while I've got you up,

 

quick question from Helena.

 

They have a 10 year old Spruce

 

that was fine a month ago

and now it's stone cold

 

dead, any idea why?

 

- Well that's pretty dramatic.

 

I would suggest they contact us

with anything that

 

may have happened

that isn't in that question.

They can call the

 

diagnostic lab at 994-5150

 

or email

 

diagnostics@montana.edu,

 

or they can contact their

 

local county extension agent

to get some help on that.

- Okay, thank you.

Jason, a question from Helena.

This person has been

 

told and has read that

MSU is one of the

 

top undergraduate

in the nation.

They'd like to know

 

how that is measured.

- Well, one of the things

that Montana State University's

 

is really proud of is

we have a designation.

 

It's called RI

 

Carnegie Designation

and that is a

 

designation that looks at

your research

 

expenditures as well as

a number of other metrics,

like your number

 

of PhD graduates,

and some of those other markers.

And so we are one of 130

 

that are in that category,

 

of those 130 only one or two

have a really high

 

undergraduate count like we do.

And so it's very rare

when you look at a lot of

 

the R1 research universities

that are out there,

 

they tend to be.

Sometimes universities that have

really large graduate programs,

they tend to have

 

cadres of postdocs

and maybe even are affiliated

with medical

 

campuses and colleges

but at Montana State,

 

we're one of those 130 and

that creates unprecedented

 

opportunities

for our undergraduates.

 

They become the replacement

 

for the postdocs

and the other personnel.

So I think undergraduates

 

here at at Montana State

have a tremendous opportunity

and it's because of the quality

 

of faculty that we have,

the research that we do,

and in my eight months here,

 

I've been so impressed.

I came from a university

 

that where I thought

we did undergraduate

 

research really well

when I was at Michigan Tech

to a place that is

 

just phenomenal at it.

We were talking before

 

the show started about

how unfortunate it was

 

that we had to cancel

the Inca National Conference

 

for Undergraduate Research

that was supposed to be hosted

on Montana State's

 

campus in March.

Which was really

 

unfortunate because

we had the second highest

 

number of abstract applicants

that were gonna come,

so we were gonna have

 

nearly 4000 undergraduates

and their advisors

 

here on our campus

to talk about

 

undergraduate research.

So the reason, if you ask me,

the reason why we have such

a strong undergraduate

 

research program,

is because of the dedicated

 

faculty that we have.

And it's because

 

they take the time

to involve those students

 

in their research.

We have an amazing

 

honors college.

One of the statistics

 

that is really remarkable

is the number of

 

Goldwater applications

that we have here at Montana,

since it's a highly

 

prestigious award given

to undergraduates for research.

We rank right up there in the

 

top 20 in the entire country,

right there with the

 

Stanford's and the Yale's,

and so for a university

 

to have that quality

of an undergraduate

 

is quite remarkable.

- Perry have you

 

had undergraduate

and in your programs?

 

- Yes, so actually,

 

we're fortunate

to have an undergraduate

 

researcher right now,

I think he'll eventually

 

parlay the research

that he's doing now

 

into a Master's Program.

He's been doing

 

some work on control

of perennial weeds

 

in organic systems

and using actually a pathogen

to try and get

 

some of that done.

 

Maybe he's a pretty rare person

but it's been a really fun to

 

watch and fun to be a part of.

 

- Mary, how about you?

 

- We always have

 

undergrads in the labs.

This semester we have

 

a Hillerman Scholar

from northwest Montana

and we had another person doing

their undergrad

 

research project,

and then we always have a

 

few that are just hourlies

and learning about science.

We usually get them

 

out in the field

and do a little

 

extension if we can.

- If I were a student,

 

high school student,

considering a university

and had curiosity

 

about various things.

MSU is a wonderful

 

place to be challenged

to do some research.

I saw it for years

 

when I was on campus

and it is impressive.

So with that Mary, let's

 

change tune a little bit.

This person in Bozeman,

 

question came in last week,

has tomatoes with

 

interveinal chlorosis.

He transferred those

 

into a container

that had once been bleached.

Is this the cause

 

of the chlorosis?

 

- Probably not.

 

Usually,

 

it can be a several

 

reasons but if he (mumbles)

and rinsed it that

 

should be fine.

A lot of times it's

 

nutritional deficiency

and that can be from cold

or it can be from lack

 

of nutrient in the soil.

And they could certainly

 

shoot us a few pictures

and we can help them get it

 

narrowed down a little bit more

if you wanted to.

- Bleach breaks down pretty

 

fast in sunlight as I recall,

so if it's out for a day

 

or so I don't think --

- Yeah.

 

- Unless you're pouring

 

bleach on there.

There are some municipal waters,

they actually add small

 

amounts of bleach to kill

(mumbles) in the US municipal

 

water for greenhouses.

 

- Okay, thanks Mary.

 

Laurie, this is a question

 

that everybody has

that tries to grow

 

vegetables in Montana.

Flea beetles, how do you

 

prevent them in brassicas,

 

or radishes or potatoes?

Their larvae, any suggestions?

 

- Flea beetles are

 

really difficult.

I think one of the best

 

things you could do

is rope covers early on, try

 

to protect the early seedlings.

They can take a

 

lot of damage from,

the leaves themselves

 

can take a lot of damage

from flea beetles

 

after they've grown.

So protect those

 

early seedlings,

try to plan a trap crop,

 

something like radishes.

They're so highly mobile that

 

they're difficult to control.

I got a question about using

 

parasitic beneficial nematodes

for flea beetles and

 

there on the label

and they do deposit

 

their eggs in the soil

but they haven't been very

 

effective for flea beetles

because they're so mobile,

and the same adults could

 

just move over a little bit.

So try to get those rope covers,

try to protect the early

 

seedlings and then just know

that they can take

 

a a lot of damage.

It's a constant problem.

 

- Years ago we use a

 

product called Diathanon,

it did a wonderful job but

 

they did not re-register.

 

- Jack, can I follow up there?

I don't know if

 

I'm muted or not.

- No you're not.

 

- No.

- So Laurie last year, we had

 

several demonstration crops,

 

different types of

 

brassicas at the post farm

and I was astonished

 

at how the flea beetles

went to the yellow

 

mustard instead of canola,

instead of Oriental

 

mustard, other brassicas

that we had in there.

I liked your idea of a trap crop

but wonder yellow mustard

 

seeds pretty easy to grow.

So I wonder if that would

 

work in a garden situation.

- That's a good idea.

 

- We learned something

 

tonight, that's good.

- (laughs)

- Jason from Helena.

 

They have friends that

 

work in the College of AG

and they're always talking

 

about overhead charges.

What are they and

 

do they vary with

the various different

 

departments at the university?

- Sure.

 

Overhead charges

 

is a term that we

are trying to move away

 

from actually, Jack.

It refers to a grant and then

there's what's called facilities

and administrative costs

 

above and beyond that.

So you say you get a grant from

the Department of Agriculture

or National

 

Institutes of Health.

You have what are called your

 

direct costs for research

and then you have

what had been previously

 

referred to as overhead

or indirect costs.

It was several years about,

probably about three

 

or four years back.

Where you might

 

remember early on in

the current

 

administration's timeframe

there was a lot of

 

questions about this.

There was actually,

 

some individuals in DC

that were were saying, "Why

 

do we have any of this?"

And that's really when

 

we started to move away

from the term

 

overhead or indirect

because things that are not,

things that are

 

indirect are not direct

and they're not important or

overhead had a bad

 

kind of connotation.

What it really is a

 

rate for the facilities

and the administrative

 

aspects of the research,

and it pays for the compliance

 

aspects for the research.

It pays for the office

 

of sponsored programs

to make sure that they are there

and available to help

 

the faculty members,

and other researchers

 

to be able to process

their grants efficiently,

 

and for facilities as well.

And so we do reinvest

 

what are what were previously

 

referred as overheads in F&A.

Now we call them facilities

 

and administrative aspects.

We invest those back

 

in to the facilities

and to our individuals

 

in various forms

but they're very

 

important to universities.

They really are important

 

to research at universities

and they really, I

 

think, if you look at

the growth of research at MSU

 

in the past couple decades,

it's been enabled

 

because of a lot of that.

The re-investments

 

that have been able

to be made in facilities

 

and research through those.

So that's really what

 

overhead is all about.

- I might follow that

 

up a little bit, Jason.

What is the out reach research?

I can't say out reach.

What is the research budget

in Montana State

 

University right now?

- We operate almost

 

exclusively off of that F&A.

We do have a small

 

amount that does come

from the state budget as well

 

for some research aspects

but it runs around

 

19 to $20 million.

 

Of that 19 to 20 million,

well over half of

 

that are fixed costs.

For example,

several years back, we

 

made a strategic decision,

and I think it was a good one,

to build a new chemistry,

 

biochemistry building on campus.

We're still paying off

 

the bonds on that building

as well as the operations

 

and maintenance budget.

So we reinvest a lot of

 

that into that F of the F&A,

the facilities portion.

So it's about 20

 

million or so, Jack.

- Okay, thank you.

We don't have the person on

 

the panel to answer this.

The scenario is in a

 

comment from Helena.

They have noticed many

 

of their neighbors

have been cleaning

 

their garages.

I can relate to that,

 

outbuildings, et cetera.

They would like to know if

 

there is a Toxic Recycle Day

for the counties this year?

If so, what does

 

the panel suggest?

What I'm gonna as

 

is that we'll check

with the Department

 

of AG next week

and we'll have an answer

 

for that question next week.

I'm sure in whatever

 

state they are.

Laurie you know

 

anything about that?

- Yeah, I was just reading

the last Lives and

 

Landscapes that publication

and it said that there is,

I don't know if they're

 

gonna do it this year

but they're supposed to have

 

a pesticide waste drop off

 

in the western

 

region in September.

 

That's all I saw.

- Well, we'll follow up on

 

that a little bit next week,

I'll find out from

 

somebody what's going on.

Please don't throw

 

it in the garbage can

that's not a good place

 

to put toxic pesticides

and so forth.

Hold on to them until you

 

can properly dispose of them.

Perry, this question came

 

in last week from Chester.

They would like to

 

know how climate change

will affect crops

 

on the Highline.

It's a good question.

 

- You can think of

 

climate in two ways

from a Montana dryland

 

farmer perspective

and one is that there's climate

 

change is a background trend

 

of things that are

 

usually general.

If it's temperatures

 

it's usually increasing

and if you reach a particular

 

threshold at certain points

that can actually

 

be very damaging

to crops at certain life stages

but for us, the bigger

 

factor is the variability

around that line.

Especially rainfall but it

 

can be temperature also.

And so to the extent

 

that that variation,

it's already pretty bad.

And so if that

 

variation gets worse

that will make it

 

even more challenging.

If you get a really severe

 

frost event at the wrong time

that can be incredibly damaging.

If you get too much rain,

 

if you get not enough rain

at the right time that

 

can be as damaging too

The precipitation part of this

 

is a lot harder to predict

than the temperature side.

 

We'll try to adapt

 

the best we can but

 

it would be best not

 

to have to deal with it

in a very large way.

 

- Certainly in years

 

I've been around Montana

which started in 1979.

We used to grow a

 

lot of spring wheat

in the Hardin County area,

 

great for spring wheat.

With temperatures

 

now in the summertime

at pollination exceeding 100

 

degrees almost every year.

We can't grow spring wheat

 

there so it's moved north.

Even in the northern part

 

of the state I'm told that

it's gotten hotter and some

 

of these spring wheat crops

have a tendency to abort

 

during the bloom period.

So it's changed,

we're growing a lot more

 

corn up in the Highline

than we used to.

So climate change

 

has a huge effect.

- Yeah, it does.

So Luther Talbert,

you know speaking of

 

spring wheat actually did

some interesting climate

 

change assessment over time.

He was probably being a

 

little bit tongue in cheek

before he retired but

 

he was worried about

whether there would be a need

 

for a spring wheat breeder

because things were

 

getting so bad.

But then you get a year like

 

last year where it was cool

and we never had any amount

 

of drought the entire.

That's that

 

variation part again.

- Yeah, I agree.

Jason, this question

 

came in from Belgrade.

How is the university

 

returning to research

in the wake of COVID-19?

I assume they're talking

 

about agricultural research

and also on campus in the labs.

 

- We took a real careful

 

and disciplined approach

when we started talking

 

here at the university about

how to scale down research?

 

We had some benefit

 

of being able to see

what happened on the East

 

Coast and the West Coast

that were ahead of us.

Some universities went

 

to a complete shutdown

and I can tell you,

 

after being in a call

with some other VPRs here

 

recently, a lot of them I think,

regretted going that far.

We took a different approach,

we developed what we called

 

research operation levels,

zero through one through four

and each of them had different

 

mitigation strategies.

During the outbreak,

we got to level two

 

research operations,

which was where we asked

 

all of our researchers

both here on campus as well as

 

in our experimental stations

and extension to

 

pause their research

 

in the data acquisition

 

phase if they could.

But we always allow them

 

to make an appeal under

what we term essential

 

research guidelines,

which stated that if you

 

stopped collecting data

it would cause irreversible

 

data or financial loss.

And situations like for

 

example, the birthing season,

you just can't walk away

 

from that type of research,

you have to do it in

 

a mitigated manner.

We had individuals who had

 

been collecting data for two,

three consecutive years

and we're coming up on their

 

longitudinal data points,

that would be irreversible,

 

irrevocable data damage.

And so we allowed

 

those individuals

to put together a plan

with our Office of

 

Research Compliance

to keep their operations

 

moving forward

in a mitigated manner.

I can tell you that almost

 

80, 85% of our faculty

did exactly what we asked them,

 

within one week they said,

"You know what?

"I'm able to go

 

offline for a while,

"I'll work on my papers,

 

I'll work on a new grant,

"I'll get to that data

 

that's been sitting there

"and I haven't

 

analyzed for a while."

And so for about

 

four weeks there,

they took a complete pause on

 

the actual data acquisition

but there was still

 

about 15 or so percent

that still needed

 

to do something.

And we had to work with them

on making sure they had good

 

personal protective equipment

that they were social distancing

and we did everything in our

 

power to keep them moving.

And that includes some

 

of our COVID research,

we had several

 

people that pivoted

a lot in the College

 

of Agriculture.

I'm sure we'll get to some

 

of that during today's show

that pivoted away from research

 

they'd been doing previously

to COVID-19 research.

And we definitely wanted

 

to be part of that,

we had to be part

 

of that solution.

And there's some really great

 

stuff coming out from that,

particularly related to

 

monitoring of wastewater

and other types of things that

I look forward to

 

briefing your viewers on.

I think it's really important

 

for them to understand

some of what we're doing to

 

help be part of the solution.

So we took a careful

 

approach Jack

and we were very careful in

 

making sure that we ramped up

and actually slowly

 

down our activities

but ramped up our

 

mitigation strategies.

And now we're getting to a point

where we just released

 

a memo on Friday,

where we're gonna be

 

going back to level one,

which is still very mitigated

but it's allowing even more

 

research to begin to go back

to that data acquisition

 

phase, beginning May 18th.

So I think a very careful

 

and disciplined approach,

and we've been

 

corresponding with academics

and Mary's part of that.

We've been working with

 

our department heads

and our center and

 

institute directors,

both on campus and off campus

 

to try to make sure that

we were making the right

 

policy decisions in this.

I think for the most part,

we did a pretty good job of

 

balancing the governor's order

and making sure we were safe

but also still

 

allowing exemptions

for those essential

 

research activities.

- As a follow up, this question

 

did come in from Bozeman

while you were answering

 

the first part.

They're curious,

 

do you feel that

with all the COVID-19 research

that is going on

 

nationwide right now,

that other grants

 

for other researchers

will be impacted negatively

because everything

 

focused on one area?

 

- That's a really good

 

question, we don't know yet.

The economic downturn

 

that's being caused by COVID

is certainly gonna be felt for

 

some years to come, I think,

and what that means for some

 

of our areas of research

is unknown at this point.

There are a lot of resources

that are going

 

into COVID research

but a lot of that is stimulus,

a lot of that is

 

stimulus dollars.

And we actually were having a

 

really great year anyway here,

a lot of that was coming

 

out of our College of AG

in other areas.

We are still projecting

a record year for

 

research expenditures

even though we've had a

 

little bit of a slow down

with our expenditures

 

in March and April.

We're having a great

 

you're actually.

Our faculty have been

 

submitting grants.

I think we're on track to submit

the most grants that we have

 

in at least recent history

that I've seen.

A lot of that is because

 

of some of the new calls

that are coming out from COVID

but the funding agencies,

 

the federal funding agencies,

were strong for

 

fiscal year 20 and 19.

So what happens in

 

fiscal years 21 and 22

is really a crapshoot yet.

We really have to wait

 

and see the outcomes of it

and could there be a

 

little bit of a shift

in some of the funding agencies?

I believe there

 

could be a little bit

and we have to monitor that,

and help our faculty

 

navigate those waters

because part of

 

it is diversifying

our research portfolios as well.

Engaging with industry,

 

engaging with foundations.

There's a lot of foundations

that are supporting research now

and giving our faculty

 

the resources and tools

to be able to

 

pursue other avenues

for their research beyond

 

just the federal agencies.

- Okay thank you, I

 

agree with you entirely.

We're getting a lot of

 

questions emailed, phoned in

about horticultural problems.

I'm gonna plug in for

 

next week's program,

we're gonna have a

 

gardening special.

So we don't have the people

 

to answer those tonight

but stay tuned next week

and we'll talk a lot about

 

gardening here in the state.

Before the program,

we talked a little bit

 

about some insects.

And there is a question

 

here that says,

"What does Laurie know

 

about the Asian Giant Horner

"that's been observed

 

in Washington State?"

 

And another question like that,

what are the big brown beetles

they're seeing around the state?

- Okay, the Asian Giant Hornet

 

I don't know too much about

but I've just recently,

just started reading

 

about it this weekend.

It was detected in a couple

 

spots in northwest Washington

in the fall 2019 and

 

in British Columbia.

And it will

 

decapitate honeybees,

bring back the second segment

of the bees called the

 

thorax and bring that back

to the nest for them to feed on.

It can reach up to two inches.

So it's a pretty

 

little large hornet and

I was just looking at

 

our Western Yellow Jacket

those are the queens that

 

that get to be that size

but then our Western

 

Yellow Jackets

which are one of our

 

most aggressive wasps

that we have here in the state.

The queen's will reach about

 

three quarters of an inch

to an inch.

 

For multiple stings it can

 

can release a lot of venom,

it's a very painful wasp

that could actually produce

 

fatalities but could be.

 

They're really monitoring

 

for it in Washington State

and hoping

 

that it won't spread but

 

that's about all I know.

And for the brown beetles

and I don't think they're

 

gonna show up very well

but it's good, pretty

 

good for TV here.

 

Those are May June

 

Beetles are out right now

and they actually spend most

 

of their time in the turf grass

but they will fly to

 

lights this time of year.

And that's why they're

 

called May June Beetles

and most of the time

 

you just see one or two,

it's not that big of a deal

but if you start to

 

see a bunch of them,

you might wanna try to test

 

your turf grass a little bit

and go down and

 

just do a tug test

to see if they're causing

 

some dead areas in your grass.

They should be closer to the

 

surface of the soil right now

but they can go down

 

as far as eight inches.

So just maybe, we have a lot

 

of problems with our turf grass

so it could be multiple issues

but if you see

 

multiple take a peek

and see if we've got some

 

problems with the turf.

- There's been plenty

 

of vole damage in turf.

- Yeah.

 

- Mary, this question came

 

in last week from Malta.

 

They have a lentil seed

 

that had been tested at MSU

and it showed that the

 

seed has anthracnose.

What can they do,

 

plant it or not?

And you might tell growers

 

what anthracnose is.

- So anthracnose is a fungus

that probably looks a lot like

 

ascochyta blight on lentil

if you don't know exactly

 

what you're looking for

but it's much more aggressive

 

on lentil than ascochyta is

 

and it can infect

 

many different plants.

If you do have some on

 

your seed that is a risk.

It really depends on how

 

much you have on your seed,

if it's 80% I probably

 

have other issues

with your seed anyway.

If it's 5% or so,

 

I would just use

 

a seed treatment,

fungicide that has activity

 

against anthracnose

and you can find activity

 

versus chemistry table

 

on my website, the extension

 

plant prep website.

Use a seed treatment

 

with advocacy

and make sure your seed is

 

healthy and has good germ.

And then watch during the season

you may have to

 

apply a fungicide.

This one comes in kinda late.

- Mary,

you've got a lot to do with

 

the Pulse Seed Diagnostics Lab.

 

Any idea on what's happening

for demand for lentil

 

seed this year?

Is it hard to find good seed

 

if somebody's got disease seed

or do you have any

 

idea about that?

- I don't know about demand.

We have gotten a lot

 

of lentil samples,

there's gonna be a lot more

 

lentils going in this year.

Most of the seed

 

coming through the lab

has been pretty clean.

We had enough drop out last

 

year that it cleaned up a lot of

 

the seed stocks.

 

- Paper says that we'll

 

probably see an increase

in pulse crop

 

production in the state

because of the high protein

 

and possible shortage of meat.

We'll see if that holds true.

The phones are not

 

working again, folks.

We had some problems

with phones coming

 

in kinda cutting out.

If you have questions

 

get on the phone now

and you'll see a phone

 

number on the screen.

Give us your questions and we'll

 

do our best to answer them.

 

Interesting question, Jason.

This came from Azure.

What is your opinion

of patenting research

 

supported by public dollars

in Montana's universities?

 

- I think investments

 

in research by the state

are really important.

If you look at other states

that have strong public

 

research universities

 

there is an investment

 

in the state

and we have that here in

 

Montana in various forms.

Whether it be through

 

some allocations

of the general fund resources,

all be it a very limited amount.

Funding of our experimental

 

stations is a great example

of how the state is

 

investing in research

and then even previous

 

to when I arrived

and I know prior

 

to COVID hitting,

we were talking about

 

the M-Ready Program

which was the economic

 

development research initiative

that they had in 2016.

 

Public investment in

 

research pays itself back

many, many fold.

You look at what it can do

as far as bolstering

 

infrastructure within the state,

bringing in high quality

 

individuals that can then

become contributors

 

to the public,

answer questions that are

 

relevant to the public

and also create a great

 

tax base for a state.

I've always said

 

this about research.

The federal government

 

as tough as it is,

it's never gonna stop spending

 

in research and if anything,

on the backside of COVID

there's a lot of health

 

sciences research

that's gonna continue.

States that decide to invest,

they're gonna create

 

infrastructure

and those are gonna be

 

the states that will have

those influx of resources.

So why shouldn't we have

 

the best individuals here,

in Montana conducting

 

some of that research?

Why does it always have to

 

be in Tennessee or Virginia,

or these other places, Texas?

We can have that here in Montana

and we have that

both at Montana State and

 

the University of Montana

to a certain extent.

And so I think it's a big part

of the economic development

 

ecosystem for a state

to have really strong

 

research public institutions.

- Okay thanks, Jason.

Perry,

 

this game from Chester again.

 

Their question is, do you

 

believe that Montana is right

for a canola explosion in acres?

 

- Well, so canola is a crop

 

we haven't grown very much of

and we talked about

 

climate issues earlier,

and one of the reasons we

 

haven't grown much canola is

it doesn't tolerate heat

 

very well, in the summer.

So it's something that you've

 

gotta get growing early,

try and avoid some of that heat.

There are breeding or genetic

 

companies actually active

in Montana right

 

now that claim that

they've got better heat

 

tolerance varieties

or more varieties that

 

are more heat tolerant

than in the past.

There has been a game changer

 

in the canola genetics world

and that's the development

 

of shatterproof pods.

It used to be if you had a

 

field that was ripening unevenly

and canola was very

 

prone to shattering,

that could be a real challenge

 

for the grower to deal with.

And if you have green

 

canola in your crop,

green canola seed,

it's a serious dockage factor

but now with these

 

shatterproof pods,

I'll tell you what?

My limited experience

 

at our plots is,

boy, I just can't believe

 

how well they're working.

So that allows the crop to

 

stand a little bit longer

and for it to eat, all evens

 

out and all come matures.

So that's a real plus.

It may eliminate that swathing

 

costs so that's a positive.

There's been some work

 

going on with winter canola

and so that's looking a

 

little more promising,

and that's something

 

that you would plant

kinda like winter wheat.

And so really get a

 

jump on the season.

 

Right now winter canola would

 

be growing pretty vigorously.

Some years we've actually

 

had it flowering by May 1st.

Now, wouldn't be the case

 

this year but typically,

it can certainly be

 

flowering by June 1st

and beat a lot of the heat.

So there is a lot of

 

interest in canola right now,

we haven't had, Montana's been

 

looked at as a potential area

to diversify into that crop

and there's some things

 

changing genetically

that might make

 

that more realistic

than it used to be in the past.

 

- I like canola but I don't

 

like seeds that are shatterproof

because I like to hunt doves

and doves really,

 

really love canola.

So good news and bad news.

Good for a farmer,

 

bad for us hunters.

 

Laurie, when do they

 

spray for coddling moth?

You might just say what

 

probably coddling moth is.

- Coddling moth is they

 

kinda call that the worm

that's in your apple,

 

so it hits pear,

it hit some other things too

 

but mainly apples and pears.

 

Kind of tunneling in and and

 

kind of ruining the inside

of the fruits.

 

Commercially we get

 

them in the backyard

and they're a little bit

 

difficult to spray for,

to time it right but basically

 

and it differs around state

 

so when we're in bloom

that's when we start to

 

see the adults come out,

the males come out, they mate,

and then they lay

 

eggs on the leaves.

The larvae feed on the

 

leaves for a little bit

but the whole, and

 

I can help anybody

if they need to time

 

spraying depending on

how many apple trees they have,

but never ever want

 

to spray during bloom.

So we use a calculation

 

called degree days,

which is based on temperature

and the development of the,

50 degree development

 

temperature of the insect.

It's a little tricky but

 

if you only have one tree

then practice sanitation,

 

pick up those apples,

try to thin your fruit out

but just just remember there's

 

several products available

and don't spray during bloom.

- And any of your local nursery

would have the proper

 

insecticides, I assume.

- Yeah, yep.

- Okay, Jason, (chuckles)

Facebook is amazing.

 

Question came in

 

from Fort Collins

and he is a student and

 

he would like to know,

I don't know if it's he.

They would like to know, if

 

MSU's graduate student stipends

in AG are competitive with

 

other Western universities.

 

- We're working on our stipends

 

for our graduate students.

I just wanna thank our graduate

 

students for what they do

 

to this university and we

 

talk a lot at MSU about

our excellence in our

 

undergraduate education

but we've got some really

 

phenomenal graduate students.

And what I can tell you is that

we have varying levels

 

across our different colleges

and it goes across our

 

different programs.

There's not a single rate

and so we have a

 

basal rate, of course,

that we have for a lot of our

 

graduate teaching assistants

and so forth

but then we have other rates

that are funded through

 

the grant programs,

the external grant programs and

when an individual

 

or a graduate student

is externally funded by a grant,

it can actually be

 

very well funded,

very well funded

 

graduate students.

It's hard to answer

 

that question because

 

there's can be such a wide

 

spread of graduate stipends

but it's something that

 

we're keenly aware of,

that it's really important

 

and very, very tough

for graduate students to

 

live in areas like

 

Bozeman and other places,

and still do their education.

So I think our faculty

 

are strongly committed.

I know our office is

 

strongly committed

and that's it actually Jack,

one of the reasons why President

 

Crisado actually added.

 

My predecessor was

the Vice President for Research

 

and Economic Development

and my title is Vice President

for Research, Economic

 

Development and

And one of the reasons for that

was because the executive team

and the administration decided

 

that we needed to do more

for our graduate students.

That we needed to put

 

them at a higher priority,

work with them

and research really is the

 

way that we should be funding

our graduate students.

So we're doing some pretty

 

great initiatives here

to try to bolster up some

 

of the graduate stipends

and graduate opportunities here.

And I'm pretty excited

 

about where we're gonna be,

it's gonna take a

 

little bit of time

but we're very

 

committed to that cause.

- Okay, thank you.

In my limited experience from

 

graduate students years ago,

stipends are important but

 

who you're working with

and what you're

 

really interested in,

If somebody really wants to

 

work on cropping systems,

Perry would be as good as

 

anybody in the country.

So it's that kinda thing

that graduate student should

 

also take into consideration.

Mary,

from Hailsham, this person

 

would think they had late blight

in their tomatoes.

Last summer the tomatoes

 

wilted and died quite rapidly,

any clue what that

 

might have been?

 

- I doubt it was late blight

 

just because we didn't.

 

Well, there's a little bit

 

in Idaho, I think on potato

but they should

 

get that diagnose.

A lot of people think

 

it's late blight

and it's actually early blight.

Another really common

 

disease of tomato

that can take them down

 

rapidly is fusarium wilt

and they could have

 

submitted a sample last year,

and in with those vascular

 

wilts you really wanna

use clean cropping material.

There are resistant

 

varieties that you can choose

and you wanna rotate

 

out of that area

for instance all the salinatious

 

crops out of that area

for an extended period of time.

So if they do plant some

 

tomatoes in that same soil

and get the same symptoms.

Send us a sample, we love

 

seeing little spores,

 

they're really cute.

So we're happy to

 

help with that.

- Mary knowing the Hailsham,

years ago we had a lot

 

of curly top there,

killed tomatoes out

 

there quite rapidly.

You think it's possible at

 

curly top virus might have been

part of that problem?

 

- It surely could.

I don't know if there

 

is a bunch of curly top

in Wyoming last year.

So it could come through.

 

- Okay, Jason.

- That one's a leaf

 

hopper transmitted virus

and would come in

 

from another area.

So then there would

 

be no risk this year,

unless the leaf hoppers

 

decided to come again

with the virus.

- Okay, thanks Mary.

Jason, this person

 

would like to know

your concept of basic

 

versus Applied Research

and do you see a role for each

in the College of Agriculture?

- Great question and I'll

 

answer the later part first.

Absolutely, I think I do see a

 

role within the College of AG

for both basic and

 

Applied Research.

So Applied Research

 

is gonna be a research

that has direct applications

 

to whether it be everyday life,

the ecosystem,

 

whatever it might be.

Basic research is

 

something fundamental.

It's really studying something

for the sake of

 

understanding it.

A lot of the basic science

and basic research does

 

translate at some point

to Applied Research

 

levels, at some point.

But it can take years, it

 

can take many, many years

and I think we've had several

 

examples over several decades

that have shown the importance

and the value of basic research.

I think there's a really strong

 

bias within some sectors

of the federal funding

 

agencies for Applied Research

and others that are more

 

appreciative of the basic side

but even the Department

 

of Defense, for example,

which is the largest

 

funder of Applied Research

still has these categories

 

called 61, 62, 63

and the 61 category is

 

for that basic research.

So even the federal agency

 

that values Applied Research

more than any other still

 

values that basic research

and so in AG it absolutely

 

has to be there.

I think a lot of efforts right

 

now are on the applied side

but without that basic

 

we can't forecast

where we're gonna

 

need to be five, 10,

20 years down the road.

- I think there's a pretty

 

good balance of both

in the College of AG,

I believe here at

 

Montana State University.

- That's my impression as well.

That's my impression as well

 

from what I what I've seen and

in particular, again,

 

back to some of the work

that's happening on

 

the COVID-19 side.

Some of our researchers that

 

have been doing basic research,

looking at gene editing

 

and CRISPR technologies,

and other types of

 

things are now being able

to very rapidly turn their

 

research into something

that is very important

 

and very applied.

 

- Thank you.

Laurie from Darlene

 

in Dry Creek.

 

They had a grasshopper

 

situation last year

and they anticipate

 

one this year,

do you know anything that

 

would stop grasshoppers

in their situation

or do you foresee another

 

bad grasshopper year?

- Grasshoppers get

 

tricky depending on

if it's a backyard situation

 

or if it's a range land area.

So I think a lot of the.

We had no low bait and

 

a couple other baits

that we could order to kind

 

of deter the grasshoppers but

 

one of them I think there's

 

a fire in Durango, Colorado,

so that wasn't available

and I think the baits are

 

hard to get right now.

They can certainly contact me

and we'll figure out what

 

kind of situation they have

because they'll come in

and they'll eat everything

 

in the backyard.

Depending on what they have,

 

what they're concerned about.

It's tricky because

 

over winter in areas,

in ditches and things that

 

we don't really know exactly

where they're over wintering.

They definitely

 

follow drier years and

it could be a bad

 

year just depends.

- Okay, thank you.

Perry, from Fort Benton.

This person would like to know

has the hemp acres increase

 

significantly in the state

and what type of research

 

is being done on hemp?

And also for the audience,

 

what do you use it for?

- So hemp is this is a very

 

versatile and very old crop.

 

The seed can be just

 

consumed for human nutrition,

it can be pressed for oil,

there's actually some

 

medicinal properties associated

with some of the oil extracts

that come out of hemp seed.

It's been used in fiber

 

production for a long time.

It's a pretty versatile crop.

 

We were actually, the

 

last two years in a row,

we've had the most

 

acres of hemp production

anywhere in the United

 

States in Montana.

That doesn't necessarily

 

mean the most production

but we have been a

 

pretty active player

and I really wanna

 

do a shout out

for the Montana

 

Department of Agriculture.

They have shown some real

 

positive genuine leadership

on trying to get this new

 

crop situated properly

for Montana farmers.

Right now I think we've

 

got, the collective we,

I think there's something

 

like 12 processors

that are either in operation or

in construction phase

 

to be processing hemp

in different capacities.

Most of that is CBD oil

 

extraction and that market is,

 

I wouldn't know how to

 

characterize it other

than it's pretty.

There's a lot of sorting

 

out going on right now

as the prices were

 

very high at one time

and now those prices are

 

ratcheting back down as supply

is getting figured out.

 

Still there's a there's

 

a lot of interest

and there's some really,

 

this is all secondhand,

but I have some really serious

 

investment in processing

and harvesting machinery

 

in the state of Montana.

So somebody thinks that this

 

is gonna be useful crop.

 

Hemp is classified as a narcotic

 

and so it's been something

 

that's been difficult

to get funding for.

 

We have done a little bit

 

of preliminary research

with the proper

 

licensing and whatnot

and so we're still and

 

I would say at MSU.

We're in an exploratory phase.

One of the real

 

problems right now is

there's a maximum allowance

 

for the psychoactive component

of cannabis sativa

 

and that's THC.

 

When you're producing CBD oil

 

sometimes you can run close

to that 0.3% limit

and so we'd like to

 

know more about genetic

and environmental

 

factors when we start

to run into higher THC levels.

That's probably one of

 

the most pressing issues.

- How many acres (mumbles)?

- Last year, sorry

 

did I get that.

Was a question how many acres?

- Yeah.

- Last year,

seeded was around 52,000,

 

harvested not nearly so many.

Remember we had

 

that early winter

and that early October snow

 

that caused a lot of trouble

for hemp growers in Montana,

 

it was not good actually.

This year, I sit on the

 

Hemp Advisory Committee

for the state of Montana

and it sounds like

 

acreage is down

but nobody seems to know

 

exactly how much down

from last year.

- Jason, you had a comment?

- Well, I was just

 

gonna follow up

on something Perry

 

mentioned which was.

This fall one of

 

our classes at MSU,

it was a an

 

interdisciplinary class

where they had a

 

business student

and someone from

 

agriculture and other areas

 

and even people from

 

arts and humanities,

and there was a pitch

 

pitch program on hemp.

It was fascinating.

I went to the event it was

 

an hour and a half event

and everything from the

 

fibers that Perry mentioned,

I think one of the most

 

novel ones that I heard was,

when we weed whack

 

around our house

with those plastic

 

things that spin off

and we are injecting plastic

 

all into our our lawns

and our home care.

They had put together

 

a prototype of using

to use that as a weed whacker.

Now it needs to

 

definitely move on

to some validation stages

but it was really

 

fascinating to see

those students, those

 

undergraduate students,

challenged how can we use hemp

and how can we use it to

 

its fullest potential?

And that was one of the ones

 

Perry mentioned was the fibers.

It isn't always just about the

 

oil, and the oil extractions,

and the THC that everybody

 

gets focused in on

but there's a lot of potential

with the fiber

 

structures as well.

- Okay, I like it.

I'm familiar with that program.

We had a couple other people

 

on last year that (mumbles).

 

Laurie we're getting low on time

but a quick answer

 

would help here.

Ponderosa Pine Spruce, all

 

kinds of evergreen trees

have scales right now.

Good time to to

 

control them or not?

- It depends on which one it is.

So usually

 

we have some plant indicators

 

that when they're in bloom

that could help us with control.

So you can contact me if you've

 

got a question on scales,

it just depends on

 

what scale it is

because you wanna try

 

to control them during

the active stage called

 

the crawler stage,

and they're only out

 

at certain times.

- Okay, thank you.

Jason, 30 seconds.

What do you think of

 

agriculture in Montana?

- Well, I think it's obvious

 

there's a huge history.

 

It's gonna be and

 

remain a huge aspect

of the research at MSU.

I'm proud of what I see coming

 

out of our College of AG.

It's amazing that the

 

quality of the faculty

and the students

 

that we have out of

the College of AG is remarkable.

- Thank you and thanks

 

for coming tonight Jason.

As I said earlier, next week,

we're gonna have a

 

gardening special.

A lot of the questions that

 

we did not get to tonight

pertaining to gardens,

 

we'll cover next week.

Everybody, thank you

 

for joining us tonight.

The audience out there,

 

lots of questions.

We appreciate that, without

 

you watching the program

we wouldn't be here.

So with that you folks see

 

everybody next week, good night.

 

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Live is made possible by

the Montana Department

 

of Agriculture,

the MSU Extension Service,

 

the MSU AG Experiment Stations

of the College of Agriculture,

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Cashman Nursery and Landscaping,

the Gallatin Gardeners Club

and the Rocky Mountains

 

Certified Crop Advisor Program.

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