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Making it Grow is
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the South Carolina Department
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Certified South Carolina grown
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find and buy South
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McLeod Farms in McBee
South Carolina.

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This family farm offers
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including over twenty two
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Well, hello. Welcome to Making
It Grow. We're so glad

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that you can join us. We are
going to do something

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that really is fun.
We're going to visit

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people's gardens. So that
you get to enjoy all the

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hard work they've done and
just take in the beauty

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from the comfort of your
own living room.

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The first place we're
going to go is to the

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top of Paris Mountain

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outside Greenville. Davis
Sanders took us up there and

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introduced us to this
lovely couple the Bradshaws.

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You know some husbands
and wives can't

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garden together because
sometimes one person has

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a strong idea or the other
person doesn't agree.

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This couple seems to have a
wonderful relationship

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and the transformations
they take into this tip top

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garden are absolutely
phenomenal.

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We are at the top of
Paris Mountain near

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Greenville, South Carolina
in a garden that

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appropriately is called
Stoney Waters. And this is

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the garden of Dee
and Bill Bradshaw.

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Bill this is a wonderful garden
and

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y'all knew
a little bit about gardening

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in this kind
of zone or environment because

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of being from Arkansas.
But you didn't know

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what was going to
happen when you tried

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to put a shovel
in the ground.

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Right. This soil is

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very much like Crush and
Run except it's red.

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So what we did was build
terrace walls and then dig

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out the more native soil
and sift it to get the

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gravel, the larger pieces
of gravel. And then we

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brought in about
120 cubic yards of

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good soil to mix in with
the native soil. But you

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had a beautiful bedroom.
You have a post-and-beam

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house and you wanted a
view from your bedroom.

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And I think that started it.
Yeah, actually I decided

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to build the house so that
every room has a window

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that looks out on what
would eventually become a

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garden. And so over the
seven years that we built

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the gardens around the
house, we would add to the

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garden for each of the
windows. And the first one

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was the triangle the first
one was the triangle

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garden, which is what we
could see from the master

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bedroom. And let's talk a
little bit about that one.

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Well the most prominent
feature that it has is

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a hibiscus that is

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red and about the size of my
hand

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and we have some images
with about 40 flowers on

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that hardy hibiscus but
you also everywhere we look

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have lots of
hydrangeas, the white woody

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hydrangeas. Some being the
native oak leaves and

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some being the
paniculatas yes. And

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they are a feature that we
see repeated throughout

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the garden and we see a
lot of them there too and

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everywhere we look we see
plants for pollinators

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the echinacea and
Rudbeckia is just evident

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when they talk about
repetition how wonderful

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that you're using
something and so

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valuable to the
native- We have a lot of

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native pollinators.
And they're so many

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different kinds too. And
then we go from the

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triangle. You finally
decided that you would

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since we were on top of a
mountain that maybe you should

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use some curves to what I
think is a crescent garden

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Yeah, virtually all the
rest of the garden are curves.

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We tend to like
curves more than straight

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lines. When you sent me the
original pictures of the

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garden I thought it was
acres and acres and

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actually. It's about an
acre. Yeah but

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you feel like you've gone
around the world

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and so I go to the Crescent
Garden and that's kind

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of out there more open and a
very sunny spot.

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It's a good bit. Just a nice
variety of things.

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And you said that's kind of
typical of y'all.

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That's not a master
plan behind it.

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No we just did each section.

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We'd finish a
section like in the Fall.

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And then we do another
one in the Spring and then

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during the summer we just
coast through and

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try and keep everything alive.

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No wonder. Because you don't
have you irrigation.

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No. We do not
we water everything by

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hand or with over
sprinklers.

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As we move on around we get
to a little

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Charleston garden which is very
sweet and has a little fountain.

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Then we come to what I
think is not as showy

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but I think very
beautiful and that's that

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hillside shade garden. Right.
And that's the

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termination point of one
of our streams.

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And it's a shade garden that's
built into a rocky hillside.

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Everywhere I look is rocky.
And I know you

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brought a lot of
amendments up here,

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but the one amendment
you did not

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have to bring was rocks.
Most of the rocks

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in fact all of the
rocks that are

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in the upper garden
are what

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we call the mountain garden

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where we're sitting now
have come out of these

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beds. They've been dug to
about 18 inches in depth

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and you find a tremendous
number of red native

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rocks when you start
digging in these hills. And

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then as we move on around,
I don't know why

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Dee thought that she was
going to sit and enjoy

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breakfast and a second cup
of coffee at all. But she

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did. And so she planned I
think that was the

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first water feature
perhaps. Yes.

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So tell us about
that water feature.

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Well, in Little Rock
when we lived

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there for seven years, we
did have a small very

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small pond right outside
of our breakfast area.

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When we decided to move
here, she said

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she wanted to duplicate that.

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So we did it on a grander scale

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But it is one that you
can look down from the

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breakfast area into the
pond and then we have two

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waterfalls that go into
the pond.

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And moving uphill from that
we have kind of a grand pool.

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That's the 3000
gallon pond. And

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it is primarily useful to us in
terms of

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water lilies. And we
have pictures with 18, 20

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water lilies blooming
at one time in that pond.

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So you really haven't
limited yourself to one

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particular type of plant
material.

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You have a lot of flowering

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perennials that come back
you have

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a lot of shade
loving perennials you

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have woody plant material
and then one of the things

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that I think is a cohesive
force and really makes it all

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fit together on this
mountainside is your use of

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conifers. We enjoy the full
year view that they provide us.

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Yes. They also make
a nice transition

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because your property
very fortunately abuts

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a park. Right! Paris Mountain
State Park is one of our

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neighbors, the neighbor to
the east. So the Sun rises

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over Paris Mountain State
Park into our bedroom.

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Then when you thought
you could

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rest on your laurels
a piece of property

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up mountainside came available.
Right! Where we're sitting right

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now is a piece of property
that we bought the lower

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half of. It's roughly 200
feet by 70 feet from our

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driveway and we've spent
the last six years

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developing gardens in this
space. And I think

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one of the most beautiful
aspects of this garden is

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the sunset garden, which
is right behind us.

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And this is the time to see
it with the day lilies

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blooming although we do
try and have it also

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continue through the
summer with coleus. But the

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day lilies are the
showiest part of

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the sunset garden. And we got
that idea out of a book

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I read that Monet had both
a sunrise and a sunset

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garden where the plant
material gave the colors

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of the two times of day,
so we decided to focus on

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the sunset. Bill, there are very
few times when you were

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sitting and getting to
enjoy the fruits of these

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labors. I think you told
me that y'all spend in a

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thousand hours. Well
between the two of us,

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we're spending about 700
hours each in gardening

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activities. Now that
includes going to buy

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plants as well as
planting and watering and

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going to dump with the
plant material that's

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being trimmed and thrown
away. But this is a garden

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that looks like it would
be a garden at an estate

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where there were full-time
gardeners and yet I think

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it's remarkable that you
and your wife have

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put your passion for
nature and

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your love for the
outdoors and in

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creating this and in sharing it
with people.

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I know that you have
fundraisers here

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and it helps
support a garden in

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downtown Greenville. And
and we want to appreciate

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your opening the garden
to Making It Grow today.

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Well, we're happy to
have you visit.

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Thank you.

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When I first heard

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about this garden I thought it
was several acres, because

10:19.685 --> 10:22.588 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
it's so many complex
different features. There

10:22.688 --> 10:25.625 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
are some that reflect
Asian influence. They're very

10:25.725 --> 10:27.560 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
interested in that. And
then there are others

10:27.660 --> 10:29.261 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
that have a French
influence which has

10:29.362 --> 10:31.597 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
particularly been
accomplished through using color

10:31.697 --> 10:34.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I think they call that
the Monet garden.

10:34.100 --> 10:36.202 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And then water is such an
important aspect. They

10:36.302 --> 10:38.971 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
have lots of different
filtration systems. It was

10:39.071 --> 10:41.140 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
quite an education for us
to go there. They have

10:41.240 --> 10:44.877 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
waterfalls. They designed the
garden so that as you

10:44.977 --> 10:47.313 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
move throughout the
property, not only do you

10:47.413 --> 10:50.316 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
have all these different
themes, but also as you sit

10:50.416 --> 10:52.918 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
at the breakfast table,
look out from the

10:53.019 --> 10:55.521 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
windows upstairs, you see
different parts of the

10:55.621 --> 10:58.224 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
garden that been enhanced
and really have different

10:58.324 --> 11:00.893 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
thematic situations that
they've managed to

11:00.993 --> 11:04.463 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
accomplish. Bob Smith
lives not too far away

11:04.563 --> 11:07.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
the Paris Mountain. He's in
downtown Greenville, right

11:07.667 --> 11:10.536 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
outside of Greenville. And
he is interested in Koi.

11:10.636 --> 11:12.705 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Of course Koi have been
the rage for a while.

11:12.805 --> 11:14.940 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
They're such beautiful
fish and many people

11:15.041 --> 11:18.310 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
simply just have a
Koi pond. Not Bob Smith.

11:18.411 --> 11:21.580 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
He's turned his entire
backyard into an area

11:21.681 --> 11:24.950 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
that reflects the Asian
influence of this fish

11:25.051 --> 11:27.820 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and uses water in many
different aspects.

11:27.920 --> 11:30.556 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Of course, he has the pond
that has the fish in it,

11:30.656 --> 11:32.324 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
but then he has water
tumbling over. He takes

11:32.425 --> 11:35.194 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
advantage of the natural
elevation of his property

11:35.294 --> 11:38.531 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
to have waterfalls and
then twisting areas.

11:38.631 --> 11:40.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
He brings in plants that
reflect the Asian

11:41.000 --> 11:43.536 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
influence of the Koi. It
really was a wonderful

11:43.636 --> 11:46.172 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
journey and we want to
thank Danny Howard, a

11:46.272 --> 11:49.141 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
friend of ours who
introduced us to Mr. Smith.

11:50.910 --> 12:26.345 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40%
♪

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We are in Greenville, South
Carolina

12:28.314 --> 12:30.349 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
in the Japanese themed garden of

12:30.449 --> 12:34.887 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Bob Smith. Bob, when you
came here, this was I

12:34.987 --> 12:37.890 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
think one of those yards
that gets yard of the month

12:37.990 --> 12:39.925 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
for overall neatness and
tidiness because it was

12:40.025 --> 12:42.461 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
nothing but turf grass and
trees. No, it was a

12:42.561 --> 12:44.730 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
blank canvas is what
it was. And is that what

12:44.830 --> 12:46.031 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
you wanted? That's what I
wanted,

12:46.132 --> 12:48.934 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
So I could create my own garden
which is what I have done.

12:49.034 --> 12:52.705 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
Greenville and the upstate
are notorious for infertile, not

12:52.805 --> 12:55.374 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
infertile but hard to
deal with clay soil.

12:55.474 --> 12:58.444 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
Did you feel like you needed
to transform the soil?

12:58.544 --> 13:01.213 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I brought in about 20 truck
loads of soil,

13:01.313 --> 13:04.150 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
topsoil and river sand and I
mixed it together

13:04.250 --> 13:06.719 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
and formed berms around the
entire yard, which

13:06.819 --> 13:09.488 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I use for plantings for the
larger trees,

13:09.588 --> 13:11.390 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5%
which gives
us total privacy.

13:11.490 --> 13:14.460 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
One of the ways you also
created the privacy here

13:14.560 --> 13:18.130 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
is through your use of sound,
natural sound, the way

13:18.230 --> 13:21.367 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
you allow nature to
provide music for you.

13:21.467 --> 13:23.469 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Let's talk about
how that operates. Sure.

13:23.569 --> 13:26.272 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
The number one thing for
me is the waterfalls

13:26.372 --> 13:29.608 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I have surrounding me.
And then, two, we have a lot

13:29.708 --> 13:31.811 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
of large chimes
throughout the yard to

13:31.911 --> 13:35.447 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
take advantage of the wind and
I have made a 2000-year-old

13:35.548 --> 13:38.818 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
concept called Mohican wind
harp,

13:38.918 --> 13:42.888 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
when the wind goes prevailing
wind goes through

13:42.988 --> 13:44.223 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
strands of nylon it

13:44.323 --> 13:48.694 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
creates a very low harmonious
sound going through the yard.

13:48.794 --> 13:50.262 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Kind of a [humming sound]

13:50.362 --> 13:53.699 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Exactly. Sets you in a
meditative mood after

13:53.799 --> 13:55.401 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
you've been working all
day and need to cool off.

13:55.501 --> 13:59.205 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
And sleep. So I always go down
and my wife calls a hermit

13:59.305 --> 14:01.407 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
shed but I call
it my teahouse.

14:01.507 --> 14:02.541 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
So I go down there.

14:02.641 --> 14:04.476 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Imagine if you were down
there and she needs you to

14:04.577 --> 14:07.780 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
take care of a very
important honeydew

14:07.880 --> 14:11.383 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
she can take that little
mallet and strike that bell?

14:11.483 --> 14:15.020 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Now that my hearing gets
very poor when I get down there.

14:15.120 --> 14:17.122 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
[laughter] let's talk
about the beautiful bell.

14:17.223 --> 14:20.226 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Thank you. The bell was
originated

14:20.326 --> 14:25.998 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
back in 140 years ago 30
miles south of Beijing, China.

14:26.098 --> 14:28.601 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
It was at the front
of a monastery.

14:28.701 --> 14:32.104 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
A lot of times these
older artifacts are

14:32.204 --> 14:34.273 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
taken to the market to be
sold and I had

14:34.373 --> 14:36.275 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
a friend of mine in town that
had a business

14:36.375 --> 14:37.676 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
who would go to China twice

14:37.776 --> 14:39.979 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
a year and shop for
those types of things.

14:40.079 --> 14:41.280 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Everything I had my yard
is at least

14:41.380 --> 14:43.616 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
100 years old. It's usually
hand-carved, granite

14:43.716 --> 14:46.685 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
or stone or like this
bronze bell which

14:46.785 --> 14:51.156 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
I have and we had it
now for about a year.

14:51.257 --> 14:54.193 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
We came up here today because
we did not know about the

14:54.293 --> 14:55.594 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
beauty of the landscape.

14:55.694 --> 14:59.164 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
We came to talk about the
Koi ponds and you said it

14:59.265 --> 15:01.934 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
wasn't so much the fish
but the water associated

15:02.034 --> 15:04.169 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
with it that brought
it all together.

15:04.270 --> 15:06.238 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Let's talk about this
beautiful Koi pond.

15:06.338 --> 15:09.008 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
Sure. If you study the Japanese
garden you know

15:09.108 --> 15:11.777 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
it has to have a Koi
pond in it right?

15:11.877 --> 15:14.813 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I started with a waterfall
concept and I had to decide

15:14.914 --> 15:17.416 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
how big I wanted the Koi pond to
be which is measured

15:17.516 --> 15:19.084 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
in gallons of water.

15:19.184 --> 15:21.687 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
The one behind us
is 3500 gallons.

15:21.787 --> 15:23.923 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Right now, it has too
many Koi because

15:24.023 --> 15:26.191 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
of the reproductive habits.

15:26.292 --> 15:27.893 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
So, I will be giving some of
those away to

15:27.993 --> 15:33.232 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
the Clemson University
for Dr. Beecher.

15:33.332 --> 15:34.433 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
He's coming next
week. I'll give

15:34.533 --> 15:36.302 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
him a lot of Koi from
my lower pond

15:36.402 --> 15:38.537 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
which is twice the
size of this one

15:38.637 --> 15:40.105 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
and also hopefully
he'll take some

15:40.205 --> 15:43.042 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
of my gold fish which
are getting big also.

15:43.142 --> 15:46.011 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So, they are small but
they grow very quickly.

15:46.111 --> 15:46.979 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50%
They do.

15:47.079 --> 15:50.716 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
We are about 20 pounds and
28 inches on

15:50.816 --> 15:53.118 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
some of the Koi down
here in three years.

15:53.218 --> 15:54.286 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
They started like that.

15:54.386 --> 15:56.655 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
There's a technique that
you need to use

15:56.755 --> 15:58.524 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5%
when you're
establishing a Koi pond.

15:58.624 --> 16:01.660 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Quickly explain to the
viewers how you go about that.

16:01.760 --> 16:05.364 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
What you do, basically,
decide what shape you want the

16:05.464 --> 16:08.534 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
Koi pond to be and
how large it needs to be.

16:08.634 --> 16:11.770 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Then you want to plan the
specific like waterfall

16:11.870 --> 16:13.305 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
steps coming into the pond.

16:13.405 --> 16:14.640 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
This only has two.

16:14.740 --> 16:17.343 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
That one has five because
it's about a 60 foot

16:17.443 --> 16:19.511 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
long waterfall stream.

16:19.611 --> 16:23.048 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
So, what that does is create
a variation in the pond.

16:23.148 --> 16:25.250 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
You want that and you
need aeration, if you have

16:25.351 --> 16:27.319 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
a lot of fish. So, that's
important.

16:27.419 --> 16:30.756 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
I have five aeration devices
in the lower pond and

16:30.856 --> 16:32.257 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
three in this one for that
purpose.

16:32.358 --> 16:34.526 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
And I really I enjoyed seeing
the different

16:34.626 --> 16:38.030 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
types of stones within the pond.
The stones are round.

16:38.130 --> 16:40.232 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
And then on top
they seem to be more angular.

16:40.332 --> 16:41.767 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
Is there a reason for that?

16:41.867 --> 16:46.372 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
The reason is you have
Koi when they are spawning.

16:46.472 --> 16:50.175 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
the female Koi are
bigger than the male Koi.

16:50.275 --> 16:51.710 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
They move around slower.

16:51.810 --> 16:52.678 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
What they do is
they'll move around

16:52.778 --> 16:54.480 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
the edge of the
pond and you will see

16:54.580 --> 16:57.216 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
them get chased by
two or three male Koi

16:57.316 --> 16:58.584 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
around the edge of
the pond and they'll

16:58.684 --> 17:01.120 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
hit the female on
the side like this

17:01.220 --> 17:02.955 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
You can hear
them, slapping.

17:03.055 --> 17:05.124 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
And causes the egg
to be released

17:05.224 --> 17:07.192 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
and the males fertilize it

17:07.292 --> 17:08.727 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
and it comes out
in a very sticky ribbon and

17:08.827 --> 17:12.164 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
attaches itself to the
walls of the pond.

17:12.264 --> 17:14.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
These walls are made from
river rock,

17:14.767 --> 17:16.902 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
which is rounded going
down by water.

17:17.002 --> 17:19.038 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
That prevents the
female from getting hurt

17:19.138 --> 17:21.407 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
against angular rocks.
So she's pushed against the

17:21.507 --> 17:23.575 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
wall and she won't be injured.

17:23.675 --> 17:25.677 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
But then above that you
have a different type.

17:25.778 --> 17:29.448 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Tennessee field stone
and it's flatter and

17:29.548 --> 17:31.083 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5%
sharper
and easier to stack.

17:31.183 --> 17:34.353 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
As we look up here
on the upper pond,

17:34.453 --> 17:38.090 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
there is what looks
like a precariously balanced

17:38.190 --> 17:40.159 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
structure of stone.

17:40.259 --> 17:42.561 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
You said that has
an interesting story.

17:42.661 --> 17:45.464 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
The karen was
originated in China.

17:45.564 --> 17:48.634 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Went to Japan and then came
to Ireland and Scotland.

17:48.734 --> 17:50.202 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
This was 2000 years ago.

17:50.302 --> 17:52.438 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
Why did they-
You said there were

17:52.538 --> 17:55.007 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
-- trail markers
and signs of good luck.

17:55.107 --> 18:00.813 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
So I have a karen here and one
down here in my sand area.

18:00.913 --> 18:05.084 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Again, I want to create as
much luck as possible.

18:05.184 --> 18:07.286 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
You have a good bit of
bamboo here

18:07.386 --> 18:10.155 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
and you said
you do keep after it.

18:10.255 --> 18:11.256 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
You have to.

18:11.356 --> 18:14.393 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Even though, these are
theoretically noninvasive

18:14.493 --> 18:16.829 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
bamboos. I have
black and yellow.

18:16.929 --> 18:19.298 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
They are invasive
so you have to keep

18:19.398 --> 18:22.034 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
your eye on them
because in a few days you see

18:22.134 --> 18:25.304 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
strands growing from here
to 15 feet away.

18:25.404 --> 18:29.141 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
They will grow up to 30
feet high within six weeks.

18:29.241 --> 18:30.142 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
You have to be
careful with them.

18:30.242 --> 18:33.145 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
The black bamboo is
very beautiful and use

18:33.245 --> 18:37.282 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
that from a commercial
source in the creation

18:37.382 --> 18:38.650 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
of your lovely teahouse.

18:38.750 --> 18:40.052 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
I did.

18:40.152 --> 18:43.188 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
I purchased it from a
group in California.

18:43.288 --> 18:46.158 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
I picked black bamboo because
I like that color and

18:46.258 --> 18:48.794 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
we stained it a similar color.

18:48.894 --> 18:50.162 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
It's stranded together with
steel wire

18:50.262 --> 18:51.964 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
so it comes in rolls.
It's easy.

18:52.064 --> 18:54.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
You just have to cut it
which is not easy to do.

18:54.233 --> 18:56.301 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
which is so hard but you
cut it to size you need

18:56.401 --> 18:57.870 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and put it up as a wall.

18:57.970 --> 19:02.508 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
And then as we look around,
you have so much privacy

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although you are in the
middle of the subdivision.

19:04.109 --> 19:09.081 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
You've used many
Asian seeming plants.

19:09.181 --> 19:11.917 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Particularly the conifers
and the Japanese Maples.

19:12.017 --> 19:14.219 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Let's talk about
the conifers first.

19:14.319 --> 19:16.655 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Some of them have
such a variety of color.

19:16.755 --> 19:19.725 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
These are all different shades
of green and pretty hardy.

19:19.825 --> 19:21.393 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
That's why I like them.
And then of course,

19:21.493 --> 19:22.794 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5%
since we do
have an Asian theme,

19:22.895 --> 19:25.430 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
the Japanese
Maples are so beautiful.

19:25.531 --> 19:27.633 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
Yes. I enjoy them.
That's my favorite tree.

19:27.733 --> 19:32.171 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
The one that is beside you
stays burgundy all summer.

19:32.271 --> 19:37.242 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
It is an old one. It's probably
12 - 15 years old.

19:37.342 --> 19:41.446 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
I purchased it when it was not
too much smaller than this.

19:41.547 --> 19:44.249 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
I have probably 25
different Japanese Maples

19:44.349 --> 19:46.852 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
throughout the yard. They grow
pretty aggressively here.

19:46.952 --> 19:48.654 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
Then, I just can't imagine

19:48.754 --> 19:52.057 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
how many rocks you have
picked up and moved but

19:52.157 --> 19:55.627 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
there's also a spring bed
because you have

19:55.727 --> 20:00.232 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
a fairly steep slope here
and that area down there

20:00.332 --> 20:01.967 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
could have been just a morass.

20:02.067 --> 20:06.004 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
It was much like a bog
when I first got here.

20:06.104 --> 20:08.840 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Like you see that section,
the full riverbed,

20:08.941 --> 20:12.744 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
So I put in, I dug
a slight hole, a ditch

20:12.844 --> 20:15.414 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
that's about 115 feet long

20:15.514 --> 20:17.916 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
into a drain but then
goes under my burn

20:18.016 --> 20:21.053 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and goes on out to the
national regular topography.

20:21.153 --> 20:27.226 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
And so, then you put in weed
block, rubber liner and stone.

20:27.326 --> 20:29.261 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
The water flows
down that slowly.

20:29.361 --> 20:31.563 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
It filters out.
It'll also feed your

20:31.663 --> 20:34.199 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
yard, but it won't sit there,
it keeps moving.

20:34.299 --> 20:37.569 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
This has been like a
trip to Asia for me.

20:37.669 --> 20:40.205 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
I love history and to
understand the reasons

20:40.305 --> 20:42.307 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
behind architecture
and why certain things

20:42.407 --> 20:45.310 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
are done in different ways
and how to interpret it.

20:45.410 --> 20:48.413 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
It's connection with the
past is just fascinating.

20:48.513 --> 20:50.816 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I wonder if we could almost
consider this,

20:50.916 --> 20:52.117 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
It's certainly for me

20:52.217 --> 20:53.418 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
it's been an education
and maybe

20:53.518 --> 20:56.255 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
we can signal the end of
class by going

20:56.355 --> 20:58.223 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
down and striking
that 150 year old bell.

20:58.323 --> 20:59.524 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
That would be fine. Okay.

20:59.625 --> 21:01.893 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Bob Smith, thank you for
sharing this beautiful creation.

21:01.994 --> 21:02.861 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
Thank you very much.

21:02.961 --> 21:12.070 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40%
♪

21:12.170 --> 21:18.176 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
(bell gongs)

21:20.078 --> 21:21.146 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
One of the things we most

21:21.246 --> 21:23.382 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
enjoyed about going to
Bob Smith's garden was that

21:23.482 --> 21:25.717 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
as you went into the
backyard, you felt like

21:25.817 --> 21:28.587 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
you've gotten off a plane
in a different country.

21:28.687 --> 21:31.390 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
It really was that dramatic a
setting that he had

21:31.490 --> 21:34.393 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
created very effectively
to give you the Asian

21:34.493 --> 21:37.696 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
feel. Everything in it
was perfectly designed. He

21:37.796 --> 21:39.631 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
even has made a
collection of Asian

21:39.731 --> 21:42.701 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
objects that add to that
feeling and sense of being in a

21:42.801 --> 21:45.237 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
whole nother country. But
it all took place right

21:45.337 --> 21:49.041 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
outside of Greenville. And then
into my home community of

21:49.141 --> 21:52.511 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Calhoun County, There is a
garden that is perhaps

21:52.611 --> 21:55.080 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
one of my very all time
favorites. I don't get to

21:55.180 --> 21:57.649 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
travel very much. But
thanks to Erline Wiles,

21:57.749 --> 22:01.186 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
who does travel, I get to
enjoy all the knowledge

22:01.286 --> 22:03.822 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that she's gained on her
European trips and has

22:03.922 --> 22:08.093 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
brought home to a large
garden in Fort Motte.

22:08.193 --> 22:11.063 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Erline's husband, Kelly
Wiles was a famous farmer,

22:11.163 --> 22:14.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
very accomplished and he
encouraged her in her

22:15.000 --> 22:17.969 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
garden work and helped
her. Erline still is out

22:18.070 --> 22:20.205 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
there at the crack of
dawn. She's a good farmer's

22:20.305 --> 22:23.575 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
wife, working in her garden.
This is not a garden where

22:23.675 --> 22:26.445 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Erline says please do
this. Please do that. This

22:26.545 --> 22:29.481 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
is a garden where Erline
herself does so much of

22:29.581 --> 22:32.751 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
the work and it is her
creation. And she still

22:32.851 --> 22:35.387 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
tends it very beautifully
to this day.

22:35.487 --> 23:02.748 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40%
♪

23:02.848 --> 23:04.049 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
We are visiting with my friend

23:04.149 --> 23:06.885 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
Erline Wiles in
Fort Motte, South Carolina.

23:06.985 --> 23:08.420 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Fort Motte is a wonderful

23:08.520 --> 23:11.790 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
farming community.
To which you are bought

23:11.890 --> 23:14.960 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
as a young bride in 1949.

23:15.060 --> 23:16.228 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
That's correct.

23:16.328 --> 23:18.296 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
You grew up in a family
down in Barnwell

23:18.397 --> 23:20.332 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and y'all farmed. That's
correct.

23:20.432 --> 23:26.405 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
You helped your mother some.
I did. I did. I guess.

23:26.505 --> 23:29.775 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
I guess we are just born with
the instinct

23:29.875 --> 23:33.178 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
of loving flowers and
working with flowers.

23:33.278 --> 23:35.781 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
I think I have had
all my life.

23:35.881 --> 23:37.983 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
When you came here
there was a neighbor

23:38.083 --> 23:39.184 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
who encouraged you.

23:39.284 --> 23:40.051 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
Who was that, Erline?

23:40.152 --> 23:42.587 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
That was Ms Ethel Keith.

23:42.687 --> 23:47.392 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
She was a hardworker
and such a nice lady.

23:47.492 --> 23:52.264 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
She had beautiful flowers
and she helped me

23:52.364 --> 23:56.768 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
so much getting started with my
yard.

23:56.868 --> 24:00.739 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
She had access to a
place that we could buy

24:00.839 --> 24:03.175 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
the azaleas very cheap.

24:03.275 --> 24:05.444 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
She got me about 100.

24:05.544 --> 24:09.714 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
They were not very big but
they grew to be very big.

24:09.815 --> 24:12.250 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
That was quite
a gift I guess.

24:12.350 --> 24:16.321 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
It was. That's right.

24:16.421 --> 24:20.959 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
And from there I just
got it started doing

24:21.059 --> 24:25.163 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
little beds and putting
things here and there.

24:25.263 --> 24:27.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
I love the stories of how you
branched out into roses.

24:28.033 --> 24:31.470 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
Would you like
me to tell you? I would.

24:31.570 --> 24:34.739 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
One day the salesman
came by to talk

24:34.840 --> 24:36.875 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
to my husband and
he was trying to sell him

24:36.975 --> 24:40.612 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
some grain bins and Pauley
told him

24:40.712 --> 24:45.550 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
I am not interested grain bins.
I really have enough right now.

24:45.650 --> 24:48.920 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
He says, if I can't sell you
some, grain bins, how about you

24:49.020 --> 24:51.790 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5%
let me
show you some rose bushes.

24:51.890 --> 24:53.191 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Of course, Pauley
being a farmer,

24:53.291 --> 24:54.860 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
he was not in to flowers.

24:54.960 --> 24:58.063 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
He said I am not interested
but go by the house

24:58.163 --> 25:01.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
and my wife might
like to have some.

25:01.533 --> 25:04.870 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
He came by the house
and talked to me.

25:04.970 --> 25:06.905 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
Told me to come to Columbia

25:07.005 --> 25:12.310 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and he has at the co-op,
so I went to Columbia

25:12.410 --> 25:14.379 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
and he helped me
pick out some.

25:14.479 --> 25:17.983 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And I planted a little
bed. And I fell in love

25:18.083 --> 25:19.518 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
with them, no doubt about it.

25:19.618 --> 25:23.021 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
And eventually that led to a
very formal part.

25:23.121 --> 25:26.124 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
One of the first things
you have formalized.

25:26.224 --> 25:28.126 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Mr Prickett from town
came to help

25:28.226 --> 25:30.595 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
you lay out the rose bed
which had a brick border.

25:30.695 --> 25:32.430 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
And now it's
a feature as you drive in.

25:32.531 --> 25:34.432 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
That's right. That's right.

25:34.533 --> 25:36.601 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Tell me how that evolved
into more

25:36.701 --> 25:41.172 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
of the mixed aspect that the
rose garden has now, Erline.

25:41.273 --> 25:47.546 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Well, at one time I just
had roses and nothing else.

25:47.646 --> 25:51.216 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
I had a trip to
England and I saw

25:51.316 --> 25:54.953 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
how they had mixed the
perennials and things

25:55.053 --> 25:58.056 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
with the roses and
how pretty it looked.

25:58.156 --> 26:01.560 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
I got back home and I
started putting

26:01.660 --> 26:07.465 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
perennials and I love
the perennial flocks.

26:07.566 --> 26:09.801 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I put a lot of those and
all kind of different

26:09.901 --> 26:13.505 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
perennials and things in it.
People love it.

26:13.605 --> 26:16.174 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Although you don't like
invasive plants, there a couple

26:16.274 --> 26:18.443 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
of things that you
make an exception for.

26:18.543 --> 26:20.845 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
I think, the Larkspur and Queen
Anne's lace.

26:20.946 --> 26:22.080 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
That's right.

26:22.180 --> 26:25.784 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
That comes up from
seed every year.

26:25.884 --> 26:28.486 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
I just leave a lot of it.

26:28.587 --> 26:31.990 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
What I do is if I don't want
a lot of it, I take the

26:32.090 --> 26:35.493 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
the bushes out
after they have seeded.

26:35.594 --> 26:39.798 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I just scatter a few of the
seed about and so I won't

26:39.898 --> 26:42.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
have a tremendous amount of it

26:42.233 --> 26:44.536 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
coming up in the bed
because I do love it.

26:44.636 --> 26:49.541 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
It is so pretty in
flower arrangements. It is.

26:49.641 --> 26:53.044 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Although we might think
those sheep are out there

26:53.144 --> 26:55.747 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
in lieu of lawnmowers, I
believe those sheep represent

26:55.847 --> 26:59.651 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
some things you enjoy bringing
back from the trips to

26:59.751 --> 27:01.753 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
England and Scotland,
is that correct?

27:01.853 --> 27:03.221 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
That's correct.

27:03.321 --> 27:06.391 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
When I went to England we saw
so many sheep.

27:06.491 --> 27:08.893 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
And we are not used
to seeing pastures

27:08.994 --> 27:13.064 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
of sheep everywhere like
you do in England.

27:13.164 --> 27:15.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
It kind of impressed me.

27:15.400 --> 27:18.670 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
When I got back I had a
catalog that I saw them

27:18.770 --> 27:21.506 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
in and I ordered a pair.

27:21.606 --> 27:24.609 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
And then I went to Ireland a
couple of years ago

27:24.709 --> 27:28.013 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
and I saw so many
sheep and they had so many of

27:28.113 --> 27:33.385 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
them that had the blackheads
and the blackfeet.

27:33.485 --> 27:35.820 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So, I had to get a set
of those too.

27:35.920 --> 27:37.022 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5%
[laughter]

27:37.122 --> 27:39.924 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
You brought a little of Great
Britain home with you.

27:40.025 --> 27:43.428 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
That's right! Erline, you have
beautiful hydrangeas.

27:43.528 --> 27:45.196 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
What an incredible
array of colors.

27:45.296 --> 27:47.766 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
I think you rooted
a good many of them.

27:47.866 --> 27:49.434 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
I do.

27:49.534 --> 27:53.238 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
Hydrangeas are
very easy to root.

27:53.338 --> 27:57.208 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
They grow pretty fast.

27:57.308 --> 28:01.846 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
They have new ones now
that will bloom all summer.

28:01.946 --> 28:06.651 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
A lot of them could take
more sun than the older variety.

28:06.751 --> 28:09.421 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
One thing I love is the
way you have them tucked

28:09.521 --> 28:11.556 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
under the pine trees.

28:11.656 --> 28:13.425 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
It's hot in South
Carolina and you are not

28:13.525 --> 28:15.326 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
somebody that thinks
it's got to be

28:15.427 --> 28:16.761 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
a blazing meadow.

28:16.861 --> 28:20.265 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
I think hydrangea is the back
of the house under the pines.

28:20.365 --> 28:23.201 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
And you've unified
them with things

28:23.301 --> 28:27.038 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
like high stone ferns. I have.

28:27.138 --> 28:30.875 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I even have azaleas with
camellias that bloom early.

28:30.975 --> 28:37.649 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
Then the hydrangeas come in.
And, usually all along

28:37.749 --> 28:40.852 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And then, across the way,
after Hugo, when there was

28:40.952 --> 28:44.589 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
all that destruction you
kind of opened up a new area.

28:44.689 --> 28:45.724 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50%
Goodness.

28:45.824 --> 28:48.593 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I would've been so glad
to relax at that point.

28:48.693 --> 28:52.430 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
There is a big beautiful new
garden over there and you have a

28:52.530 --> 28:54.999 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
lot of large shade
trees there, Erline.

28:55.100 --> 28:59.471 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
I do. They grow really fast.

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You got some that are unusual.
You got a wing nut.

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Yeah! And I love that tree.
It's beautiful.

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You want to know
where it came from?

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It came from the
zoo in Columbia.

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They used to have a plant sale
in the spring

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and in the fall.
One year I was there

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and they had this
tree for sale

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and I bought it.
Everyone loves that tree.

29:24.229 --> 29:25.830 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
It is so pretty.

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And a willow tree that seems to
have almost a twisted leaf.

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A weeping willow.
It's weeping willow.

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But a different one.

29:33.872 --> 29:36.541 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
It's nice for flower
arrangements too.

29:36.641 --> 29:38.710 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Also, you have a
lot of structure

29:38.810 --> 29:42.447 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
that comes from some viburnum.

29:42.547 --> 29:44.149 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
You believe in structure.

29:44.249 --> 29:47.118 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Why be been attracted
to the viburnum's?

29:47.218 --> 29:51.122 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Because of the blooms
and the foliage.

29:51.222 --> 29:52.791 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
It is very attractive.

29:52.891 --> 29:54.926 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
It's very easy to grow.

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The cold does not hurt them.

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It is a nice plant to have.

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It has been so much fun
to look at the plants today.

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and see the insects on them

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and the flower
just seems to be a magnet.

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I walked out there this morning
kind of early

30:12.043 --> 30:13.611 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
and I've never seen so many
butterflies on

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those cone flowers
and things out there.

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They were just fantastic.

30:20.485 --> 30:22.287 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
you said you don't take the
heads off -

30:22.387 --> 30:24.656 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
you leave them for
the birds? For the birds.

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They love the seeds.

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If you want some to plant
yourself,

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you have to get them
and scatter them or whatever.

30:33.898 --> 30:36.868 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
The birds will eat
every one of them.

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Of course we are here in
the glory of the garden.

30:39.137 --> 30:41.706 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
You just had your 90th
and a half birthday.

30:41.806 --> 30:44.709 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
I'm afraid so. A great party to
celebrate the garden.

30:44.809 --> 30:47.946 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
You have made sure things
all throughout the year

30:48.046 --> 30:50.515 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
by trees and other shrubs.

30:50.615 --> 30:53.451 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
How about crepe myrtle and
Japanese maples and things?

30:53.551 --> 30:56.454 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Oh yes! I love those too.

30:56.554 --> 30:59.324 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
There's not many flowers
I don't love.

30:59.424 --> 31:02.393 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
And they have unusual colors
in the Fall and Spring.

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The Fall and Spring, that's
right.

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And you have conifers and
different things for the plant

31:07.732 --> 31:09.634 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
materials and the
leaves this color.

31:09.734 --> 31:13.905 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I like the contrast in the
flowers and the

31:14.005 --> 31:18.409 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
conifers and different
leaves on the plants.

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I think they complement each
other.

31:22.747 --> 31:24.482 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
Your husband, Pauley
Wiles was a premier farmer

31:24.582 --> 31:26.050 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
in South Carolina.

31:26.150 --> 31:28.920 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
Although he did not come out
and pull weeds with you,

31:29.020 --> 31:32.857 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
you credit Pauley with
supporting

31:32.957 --> 31:36.694 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
you in your gardening.
I certainly do.

31:36.794 --> 31:39.464 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
He was not good
with a hoe and a rake

31:39.564 --> 31:42.600 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
but any time any of
my equipment was,

31:42.700 --> 31:46.070 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
he provided me with good
equipment to work with.

31:46.170 --> 31:49.140 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
Sprayers and hoses and rakes
and he

31:49.240 --> 31:56.581 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
made a wonderful box
like trash pickup for me.

31:56.681 --> 31:59.250 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
We can just go
to the pile of trash

31:59.350 --> 32:01.419 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
and put that
trash in there

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and it picks up to take it off.

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He was good at inventing
those kinds of things.

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Anytime a sprayer or lawnmower
or anything broke down,

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he would fix it for me.

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He was a big part
of this garden.

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Erline, for this
birthday party,

32:20.872 --> 32:23.841 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
you realized something you
wanted to do for

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many years as if you
didn't have enough gardens,

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there's a new garden.

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Let's end our conversation
by discussing the new garden.

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I have had this
in my mind for years.

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I had just not got
to implement it.

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So when we were going to have
this party,

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I decided I would do
something in special

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in remembrance of it.

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I had in my mind
what I wanted to do and

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I happen to be at a very
nice nursery in Columbia

32:56.874 --> 33:00.611 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
and I saw the two pots that I
had envisioned for years.

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(laughs)

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They were on sale.

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So, it may be that much
more anxious

33:07.752 --> 33:10.588 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5%
to get
them and start my bed.

33:11.823 --> 33:15.727 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I had a wonderful man that
helped me do the work.

33:15.827 --> 33:16.728 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
I designed it.

33:16.828 --> 33:20.865 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
I think it turned out
really pretty and

33:20.965 --> 33:23.601 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
I've had a lot of
compliments on it.

33:23.701 --> 33:26.571 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
And we enjoyed doing it.

33:26.671 --> 33:28.506 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Erline, when I come back
for the next

33:28.606 --> 33:31.376 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
birthday party I want to
see that native honeysuckle

33:31.476 --> 33:33.277 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
all the way.

33:33.378 --> 33:35.380 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
I hope you will.
I hope you will.

33:35.480 --> 33:37.281 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Erline, one thing about
this garden is

33:37.382 --> 33:39.784 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
that you haven't been
in a hurry and it shows many

33:39.884 --> 33:41.552 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
years of devotion and care.

33:41.652 --> 33:42.920 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
Thank you for
sharing it with us.

33:43.021 --> 33:44.789 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
It's been my pleasure.

33:44.889 --> 33:48.693 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
It really has.
You have a very nice show.

33:48.793 --> 33:51.496 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I enjoy it and I'm sure
a lot of other people do.

33:51.596 --> 33:53.731 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
Thank you for
your kind words.

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All right.

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♪

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For a garden that started
with a traveling salesman

34:11.416 --> 34:13.484 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
and a few roses, there has

34:13.584 --> 34:15.586 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
certainly been a
transformation in the

34:15.686 --> 34:19.657 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
acreage that Erline has
created and still tends

34:19.757 --> 34:21.826 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
to this day. And one of
the things that I think I

34:21.926 --> 34:24.195 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
enjoyed most about that
garden is that she

34:24.295 --> 34:26.764 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
unifies it through the
use of large trees. It is

34:26.864 --> 34:30.301 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
a large space. And so she
uses the natural trees

34:30.401 --> 34:32.570 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
that were there, plus
trees that she's added,

34:32.670 --> 34:36.240 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
kind of as a cohesive
force. Her backyard is

34:36.340 --> 34:39.277 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
very intimate as you saw
and then as you move on

34:39.377 --> 34:41.813 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
out from the house, there's an
expansive garden.

34:41.913 --> 34:44.115 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Erline keeps up with all the new
plants. She doesn't just

34:44.215 --> 34:47.018 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
rely on the old standards.
There's always something

34:47.118 --> 34:50.855 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
new that's happening out in
Fort Motte with Erline Wiles.

34:50.955 --> 34:56.294 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Bill Lyddan is in downtown
Charleston from lots of acreage

34:56.394 --> 34:59.897 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
to a postage stamp garden, but
one that is equally well

34:59.997 --> 35:02.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
thought out and planned.
His house there which is

35:02.800 --> 35:04.836 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
of course is an
antebellum home and

35:04.936 --> 35:08.306 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
reflects that classical
architecture is very

35:08.406 --> 35:10.775 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
symmetrical. And he has
taken that as the

35:10.875 --> 35:13.878 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
influence for his small
but complex, and well

35:13.978 --> 35:17.081 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
thought out, mostly white
and green garden. And

35:17.181 --> 35:19.917 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
even when he was able to
make some major changes

35:20.017 --> 35:22.954 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
including a fountain and the
stairs, he looked to

35:23.054 --> 35:26.791 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
antique and classical
influences as his design.

35:26.891 --> 36:02.093 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40%
♪

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I'm in Charleston South
Carolina visiting with Bill

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Lyddan and his beautiful house
in Downtown Charleston.

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Bill it's a treat to be with
you. Thank you.

36:10.334 --> 36:12.937 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Thank you very much. It's
wonderful having you here.

36:13.037 --> 36:15.540 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
You've had an interesting
career and lived a lot

36:15.640 --> 36:18.142 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
of places. So give us a little
background about your life

36:18.242 --> 36:21.779 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
before you came here. Yeah,
I've lived all over the place

36:21.879 --> 36:23.181 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
So, a long time in New York,

36:23.281 --> 36:25.550 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
and Los Angeles,
Chicago, Minneapolis in the

36:25.650 --> 36:29.420 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
advertising business.
I came here in 1977.

36:29.520 --> 36:32.924 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
Absolutely loved it. No real
jobs in advertising here.

36:33.024 --> 36:36.794 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
But we came back in 2010
and we love it.

36:36.894 --> 36:38.629 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
It's a wonderful
wonderful place.

36:38.729 --> 36:42.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
I think that you really are a
general contractor at heart.

36:42.233 --> 36:44.168 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Tell our viewers how many

36:44.268 --> 36:47.939 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
homes you have redone. We have
done in Los Angeles,

36:48.039 --> 36:50.274 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Connecticut, here eighteen
houses.

36:50.374 --> 36:53.477 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
And in Charleston itself? Four.
This is number four.

36:53.578 --> 36:55.780 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
We've been here just about ten
years.

36:55.880 --> 36:59.250 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Do you know where your
toothbrush is at night now?

36:59.350 --> 37:06.123 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I hope I do. I know it's we
love the old. We love old

37:06.224 --> 37:10.027 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
houses, old things, antiques
and this is, We got a lot of

37:10.127 --> 37:15.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
them. Well you have a what I
think is a manageable garden.

37:15.466 --> 37:17.635 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
But when you came here there
was no way to get up to the

37:17.735 --> 37:18.970 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
main floor of the house.

37:19.070 --> 37:21.639 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
So let's talk about the stairs
and why they are so different

37:21.739 --> 37:24.308 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
looking from what would have
been the stairs here. Exactly!

37:24.408 --> 37:27.945 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
When we bought the house we were
told that

37:28.045 --> 37:31.349 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
this house probably had a set of
stairs to the main floor.

37:31.449 --> 37:32.917 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
Because when we bought the

37:33.017 --> 37:35.720 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
house you enter through a small
entrance with two small

37:35.820 --> 37:39.023 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
bedrooms. We realized there
probably were stairs. Now there

37:39.123 --> 37:41.726 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
was a huge earthquake here in
eighteen eighty six.

37:41.826 --> 37:44.629 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
The entire front of
the building was lost. And

37:44.729 --> 37:47.231 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
this is all new piazza.
You can tell that because it's

37:47.331 --> 37:50.234 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
a Victorian style. So we were
able to go to the board of

37:50.334 --> 37:52.336 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
Architectural Review and they
were very nice about it.

37:52.436 --> 37:53.638 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
And they said yes you could

37:53.738 --> 37:57.308 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
you can put in a new stairs,
which we did. And that kind of

37:57.408 --> 37:59.910 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
dictated the entire garden.
Because everything came off

38:00.011 --> 38:03.314 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
the stairs. And I was telling
you earlier Chicora wood

38:03.414 --> 38:06.484 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
which is a beautiful plantation
up near Myrtle Beach was kind of

38:06.584 --> 38:10.187 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
our inspiration for the style of
it. And it all worked

38:10.288 --> 38:14.492 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
out very well. Interesting that
you said although you think

38:14.592 --> 38:18.429 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
everything would have to be just
correct and relate to the

38:18.529 --> 38:20.498 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
period. That's not the current

38:20.598 --> 38:24.402 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
style. So let's talk about why
these stairs are not exactly

38:24.502 --> 38:27.538 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
copies of what would have been
there. Exactly the current

38:27.638 --> 38:31.309 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
thinking and preservation and
this is throughout the country

38:31.409 --> 38:35.146 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
is that you don't want to
recreate something that was

38:35.246 --> 38:40.451 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
there if it wasn't. If it wasn't
there originally it has to be

38:40.551 --> 38:44.889 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
look like frankly, it's new and
added on. So and this is the

38:44.989 --> 38:47.491 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
case. Now the style of it comes
from a Chicora wood which is

38:47.591 --> 38:50.561 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
very traditional. But it's in
cement as opposed to wood.

38:50.661 --> 38:53.397 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
They don't want to kind of
fool the eye and add a

38:53.497 --> 38:55.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
reproduction elements on
to the old houses.

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So that's how we
approached it. It's still we

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think very pretty and it's
still graceful. But it is

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technically new in style. It's
also not attached to the house.

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Technically it's not attached to
the house although it looks

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like it is. But it's a
traditional house

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with a traditional style
staircase.

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But actually it almost serves
as a statue or a piece of art.

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Exactly. And that's the
way the B.A.R felt about this.

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You know this is going to be a
major major element in your

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garden which it is.
So it kind of dictated all

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the geometry of the garden
itself and

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we created what's
basically

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we call a French style partir
garden with gravel walkways.

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But it all comes off the stairs
so you can you know gracefully

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go up to the main floor of the
house and still enjoy the garden

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at the same time.

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Reveal conceal is a little bit I
believe the way the fountain is

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located. Yes. You know the
Japanese theory of gardening is

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that you don't want to see
everything in one view. You want

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to be surprised and be able to
discover various parts of

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the garden as you walk around
it. And that's the case. We

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wanted to have a fountain. We
wanted the noise of a fountain.

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The sound of it is so wonderful
but we didn't necessarily want

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to have a major thing in the
middle of everything. So we

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wound up putting it next to
the staircase and you can even

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hear it but not necessarily see
it. And it really blends

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beautifully with the somewhat
contemporary aspect of the

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stairs. It's a very particular
thing. It is. You know

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we found it on the Internet.
And it's made in Pennsylvania.

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It's absolutely perfect. We had
a spot for it. Did a lot of

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research. And I said that's it
you know. We bought it.

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Had it brought in.
It's extremely heavy.

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Put in place and looked
like it's always been here.

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And you are actually
interested in

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timepieces I understand. You
actually have a watch on.

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Yes. That's a digital watch.
And you have a timepiece in the

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garden? Well we have...Yes we
do. It's called an analemmary,

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which is a fancy name for a
sundial. And again we found that

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on the Internet and it. You'll
see them in the pictures.

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That it is a nice
complement to the stairs.

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It gives you a little bit of
elevation. And it seems very

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authentic very kind of
Charlestonian in nature.

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And you said also the wall at
the very end was not what you

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wanted to be the closure
of your view. I think.

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Does the analemmary serve
as a place

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for your eye to rest?
Exactly! You know everything is

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a matter of perspective in
gardening.

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And you want,
normally you want symmetry.

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You want the
eye to be calm. And you want

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your view to go somewhere. And
ultimately we thought the view

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could stop at the analemmary
and I think it does.

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And interesting plant material.
You were fortunate

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in that you have some marvelous

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shade trees. Absolutely! We have
some beautiful Live Oaks

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just classic Low Country. Messy!

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(laughter) But Yeah!

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They lose leaves constantly
but we have seven

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very very nice olive trees. And
also you'll see four beautiful

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beautiful pretty rare tree
formed Azaleas,

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which you know add a whole
different dimension to a garden

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quite a different look for an
Azalea.

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And you were able actually
through

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the help of a very accomplished
horticulturist/gardener to save

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some of the original plant
material although

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this design is completely
different and your design

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because you like to garden and
do things yourself. Yeah we love

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design. We love art. And so on.
Robert O'Dell is

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our landscaper did a marvelous
job of saving the box woods.

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Cause when we bought this house
there were thirty-three

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beautiful box woods in

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the ground and normally when you
transplant you always...

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We had these four beautiful tree
formed Azaleas also in

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the ground. He was able to save
them all and put them back in

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the earth a year later. It's it
was good job on his part.

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And although

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color can be a lot of fun in
this garden in order. I think

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partially perhaps because
of it's size and also your

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inspiration this is mostly one
color as far as farm. That's

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right we like green and
white. You know and I was saying

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earlier. it's like a black dress
with white pearl. Its classic.

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It always looks good and we
think it's the same thing

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with a garden. It's calming
with many different shades of

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green of course and many
different shades of white. But

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the uniformity we think is
pleasing to the eye.

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At least for us. I would think
that these box woods

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and all that were so well
established

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don't require as much irrigation

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and you do not have a lawn. I
don't see a lawn at all.

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We have no lawn. We didn't want
a lawn. We wanted it to be very

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classic French with a
limestone walkways.

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Simple and we hope
elegant. We have drip irrigation

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which is great, It's a great way
to save water. And you'll

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notice this huge big Podocarpus
hedge. That was created

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with twenty two massive
Podocarpus from Florida.

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Big big job to put those in.

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They were all drip irrigated.
So it, you know, it conserves

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water and they seem to be doing
fine. Well it was interesting

44:19.089 --> 44:21.825 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
because when we first tried to
start filming there was a lot of

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mowing, blowing noise coming.
Yes. And this

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garden actually contributes to
the quiet, We hope so. ...of

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the neighborhood. We hope so.
I think you know

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it's nice to have a quiet
environment to read a book, just

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to enjoy the other beautiful
nature here. Before we

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close I want to ask you this
flag looks like it doesn't have

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a lot of stars on it. Is there a
story behind that? There is

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This house was built in 1835.

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In 1835, the American flag was
24 stars. And that's what this.

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A 24 star flag. And you can,
thanks to the Internet you

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can find that out and you can go
buy it. Well Bill Lyddan, I am

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happy that although you
have an appreciation

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for history you also have
brought this wonderful house

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into the more modern times in
such a graceful and beautiful

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way. And my garden too. Big
credit to my wife Hildy.

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It's fun we love it. We love
these old houses and you know

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we're stewards of them and we
hope we can add something to

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the beauty of Charleston.
Charleston is very fortunate

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that you've made this
your home.

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Thank you. Thank you very much.
We're happy to be here.

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Our next stop is in

45:37.034 --> 45:40.204 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
downtown Beaufort where
Linda Peters for many

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many years had a
Montessori kindergarten

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and she created a garden
that not only spoke to

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children, but also was a
naturalized spot in the

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heart of the city.

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♪

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I'm in Beaufort,

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South Carolina in a downtown
tropical paradise.

46:49.039 --> 46:51.775 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I'm speaking with Linda
Peters. And we are in her

46:51.875 --> 46:55.679 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
five acre garden, which
she and nature have made.

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Linda, thank you for
letting us come. You grew

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up with farmer's daughter, I
believe. I did and I

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loved every second of it.
but it wasn't a place

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where you go tropical no
it was a dairy farm we

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had a hundred acre dairy
farm and we milk the cows

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and corn and wheat
and that sort of thing.

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You came to Beaufort and you
were educated as a

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Montessori teacher. And so
I think this garden and

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property serve two
purposes. It was your home,

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your school and your
creation.

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Home schooling what I
love to do. What age children

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did you have? Three to
six year olds. And how many

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did you have? 20 every year.
Well and we start right

47:36.920 --> 47:38.922 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
here where we are, with
something that's very

47:39.022 --> 47:43.060 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
child size. And lots of
people use them. And I

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think it's like a little
fairy land. It's our

47:45.662 --> 47:49.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
little fairy garden. Yes
the wagon my husband

47:49.666 --> 47:52.169 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
found. It's an antique
wagon. When he brought it

47:52.269 --> 47:57.107 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
home, he said
do something with it

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Oh that'll make

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a great little fairy garden.
So he fixed it and put soil in

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and then the moss and stuff

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and add the little
fairies and of course

48:07.117 --> 48:10.354 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
the little miniature
turtles and lizards

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and things and then we
made a beautiful fairy garden.

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And for mothers and grandmothers
and fathers and grandfathers,

48:18.829 --> 48:20.697 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
how does that help
children develop their

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minds in a nontraditional
teaching and looking in a

48:24.701 --> 48:27.204 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
book way? Well we have a
lot of vocabulary in

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there, a lot of
colors and

48:31.041 --> 48:34.311 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
different creatures and
moss. And we get

48:34.411 --> 48:37.214 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
mushrooms in there. And
they love to walk around

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because there are different
things on every side.

48:40.117 --> 48:42.719 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
For them it's like the
perfect vantage point for

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them because they can
just look in it's right

48:45.889 --> 48:48.926 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
there at their eye level. It
was wonderful for them.

48:49.026 --> 48:51.995 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I'm sure it was. As we move
back into the woods

48:52.095 --> 48:54.164 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
what's one of the first
fun little areas that we

48:54.264 --> 48:57.134 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5%
encounter?
Well we have, the

48:57.234 --> 49:00.871 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
first maybe fun
area is the

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prehistoric lane, where
I have a lot of

49:04.574 --> 49:07.444 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
dinosaurs hidden and
tropical like plants and

49:07.544 --> 49:10.180 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
I have a dinosaur and
that I made out of

49:10.280 --> 49:14.818 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
concrete. And we have a
pterodactyl that flies in

49:14.918 --> 49:19.189 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5%
the sky and
the mother dinosaur,

49:19.289 --> 49:23.060 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
she's a topiary,
with a big red bow and

49:23.160 --> 49:25.262 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
the children love.
That might be their

49:25.362 --> 49:27.464 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
favorite area
just because they love

49:27.564 --> 49:31.568 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
dinosaurs. And of
course there again a

49:31.668 --> 49:34.438 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
teaching spot because which

49:34.538 --> 49:37.107 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
dinosaurs are meat eaters?
And what about their

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body allows them to do
that? How can you tell

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this is a prey animal? Yes.
All the names they love

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the names of the dinosaurs.
Yeah, which is wonderful from

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so many ways to learn to
pronounce things. That just

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trains your tongue and helps
your memory as well.

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So survived getting through
the dinosaurs.

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(laughs)

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And we now go on to
another section of the

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garden. We pass through
the orchids and then we

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went to the fish pond,
a Koi pond.

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Which is pretty large and I have

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some really large Koi in
there. And you said that

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it's fun because we all
have different

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topics to study. And so
we walked back there and

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here are these enormous fish.
And you feed them

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probably more than you
feed yourself and your

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husband. My husband
would say they

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definitely get fed more
than he does.

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(laughs)

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And yes we do and
we so study fish

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We go out and actually
one day it was sometime

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in summer school and I said okay
children take off your

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shoes and they said, 'Oh Oh!'
So they did and I

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let them all sit on the edge
with their feet in the

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water. One little girl
looked at me and said

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This is the best day of
my life. Wonderful.

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Yeah. It was beautiful. As we
move on and out,

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what's the next area that
the children are gonna

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be fascinated by? I've been
fascinated by every place

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you took me today. After the
pond we went by the

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peacocks and the chickens.
The children always love

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to see the animals. They love
the animals. And you've got

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chicken sitting by you
right now with you. Yes I do.

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And also in that, with
the peacocks and chickens

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you have somebody came
hear unexpectedly.

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A Lillie Egypt goose. Lucy the
Loose.

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And she just flew in. She looked
real happy this morning.

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She's very happy. She has the
new flight feathers.

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Well and surrounding
us now

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you've got those
wonderful groves of

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clumping bamboo and I can
hear a lot of happy birds

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in those. Yes the
redwing blackbirds

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especially right now. They
love that bamboo. And they

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stay pretty good
for a long time actually.

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You like to make things
in your spare time...

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(laughs)

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but, you're good at it.
You use these allocacia

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colacacia leaves and cast them.
I do.

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I have a table out of there
we passed by and I put

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the sand on and the leaf
on upside down and then I

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mix up the concrete and I found
the concrete on and then

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leave it there for a few
days and tip it and

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then it makes a beautiful
bird bath or whatever you

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want. In the bog garden, I
guess do bullfrogs and

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all use that for habitat?
Absolutely, we have

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so many frogs and
bullfrogs and toads and

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everything loves that
garden. But you even got roses.

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I do. I have a rose garden.
Well, right now it's a

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salvia garden because
a salvia always thinks over.

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But I did grow amazing
roses. And of course,

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salvia like many of the
plants you have, is

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attracted to the pollinators
and insects. That's why

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it's there. The
bees and hummingbirds,

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they love it.
and butterflies. So that's

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why they're there. As a
dairy farmer's daughter,

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you have to have some
cows, but I think you've

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got em little smaller. We
do, we have a

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little miniature garden
with a miniature houses

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and miniature animals and
miniature cows, miniature

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pigs and little
paths and a little pond that

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I made out of
concrete. So your students

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probably know that milk
and eggs aren't manufactured

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in the back of the store?
I imagine this was part of

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their learning experience.
Definitely. When we

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had all the citrus trees,
when the

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oranges are ready
I say let's go harvesting.

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We take the ladder
and the wagon. We

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fill it up. We come and make
orange juice. Whatever

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with our lemon,
we're going to make

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a lemon pie. Whatever would
bloom that week,

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we do it. You do have some
beautiful citrus. What are

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some of the things that
you're going back there?

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We have some calamondins
and comprods. And then we

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have a few orange trees.
And we have that

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lemon that you love,
that ponderosa lemon.

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It's enormous. It
has to have its own

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little table to hold it up.
I've actually had it

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break that branches because
it's so large and

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heavy. And then you've got
a swing tree. We have a

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swinging tree with several
swings on it. There's

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nothing more beautiful
than seeing a group of

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children swinging on the
tree. And then I was

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getting a little tired
and needed a place to sit

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down and I found some
friends who looked like

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they had been tired a
long time ago. They did.

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It's Jack and Jill, the
skeletons.

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They're waiting for
people to come by and

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there sign said we've been
waiting a long time.

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One of my favorite native
plants is sparkleberry

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Nexium. And you have
sparkle berry lane and

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it's even more sparkly
than normal. Yes we have

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danglers that we
got out of an ad in the

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newspaper and we hung all the
danglers

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and the children
love it. And then we kind

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of end up our wonderful
walk through the garden with a

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festival coming back to
the house. Well those

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magazines. I saw a Mardi
Gras tree in a magazines so

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we gotta have a
Mardi Gras tree so we,

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I chose the tree and then
we got a

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ton of beads and
everybody that's been

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here has thrown some
beads in to the tree.

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It's great fun. And then
we're so now we're back

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at what had been the
playground for the

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children. And I imagine
that in the coming years

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since the children will
be coming back to the visit of

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course. They always come
back and visit but this

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is now another space and
I imagine that things

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will start happening here.
I may.

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Linda Peters what a
wonderful opportunity

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and head start to life
you gave children and to

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have children who are
going to remember this

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joyful experience of
nature. And I bet you've

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made a contribution to
the environmental leaders

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of the future.
I actually know I have.

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A lot of them. Thank you
very much and my pleasure.

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Thanks to Laura Lee Rose,
Linda taught both Laura Lee's

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son Sam and also her
granddaughter Clara. And thank

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you for being with us
tonight. We hope you

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enjoyed going to visit gardens
across the state. And we'll do

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more of this in the future,
because it is Making it Grow.

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