WEBVTT 00:00.967 --> 00:03.403 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Making it Grow is brought to you in part by 00:03.503 --> 00:06.006 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% the South Carolina Department of Agriculture. 00:06.106 --> 00:09.542 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Certified South Carolina grown helps consumers identify 00:09.642 --> 00:13.480 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% find and buy South Carolina products. 00:13.580 --> 00:15.949 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% McLeod Farms in McBee South Carolina. 00:16.049 --> 00:18.752 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% This family farm offers seasonal produce, 00:18.852 --> 00:22.522 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% including over 22 varieties of peaches. 00:22.622 --> 00:25.225 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Additional funding provided by International 00:25.325 --> 00:27.727 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Paper and the South Carolina Farm Bureau 00:27.827 --> 00:30.063 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Federation and Farm Bureau Insurance. 00:31.398 --> 00:55.321 align:left position:50%,start line:93.33% size:50% ♪ 00:55.422 --> 00:58.725 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Well, hello and welcome to making it grow here we 00:58.825 --> 01:01.628 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% are another Tuesday night so glad to be with you 01:01.728 --> 01:03.730 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% even though it's a little different than the way we 01:03.830 --> 01:07.267 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% used to be. And we are still hoping to give you 01:07.367 --> 01:10.503 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% answers to questions that you might be pondering 01:10.603 --> 01:12.806 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and to show you some of the wonderful things that are 01:12.906 --> 01:14.874 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% happening in South Carolina. My name is 01:14.974 --> 01:18.111 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% Amanda McNulty and I'm a Clemson horticultural agent 01:18.211 --> 01:21.114 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% and joined with other people that know a lot 01:21.214 --> 01:24.551 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% more than I do, which makes my job so easy. 01:24.651 --> 01:27.754 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% And I want to welcome from Beaufort, my friend Laura Lee 01:27.854 --> 01:30.990 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Rose. Laura Lee and I grew up in the same town, city now 01:31.091 --> 01:34.627 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Columbia, our parents were friends and we really enjoyed 01:34.727 --> 01:37.063 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% renewing our friendship. Laura Lee it's been 01:37.163 --> 01:41.201 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% delightful and tell me how are things down there in Beaufort. 01:41.301 --> 01:43.403 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% Things are beautiful down here in Beaufort. 01:43.503 --> 01:47.907 align:left position:25%,start line:0% size:75% We've had some unusually cool weather 01:48.007 --> 01:53.146 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% for June. And so yeah, it's been gorgeous. 01:53.246 --> 01:56.449 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% The water temperature is lovely. I went paddling with my 01:56.549 --> 01:59.953 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% granddaughter yesterday. And we went swimming, fell in on 02:00.053 --> 02:04.357 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% purpose a couple of times. (laughs) Well, Clara is a mighty 02:04.457 --> 02:06.526 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% nice little girl and I'm glad that you all 02:06.626 --> 02:09.929 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% get to spend some time together. That's terrific. 02:10.029 --> 02:13.600 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Zack Snipes is a Fruit and Vegetable Specialist and 02:13.700 --> 02:16.469 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% he works with the growers rather than the 02:16.569 --> 02:19.272 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% homeowners although he has a lot of information 02:19.372 --> 02:22.008 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that can help all of us. Zack you're at the 02:22.108 --> 02:24.844 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Coastal Research and Education Center and I 02:24.944 --> 02:28.815 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% imagine y'all still have some trials going on do you? 02:28.915 --> 02:33.019 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% Yeah with everything going on right now, luckily our 02:33.119 --> 02:37.390 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% watermelon's coming in. So it's been a nice treat. We grow 02:37.490 --> 02:39.792 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% a lot of watermelons at the station and I'm doing a 02:39.893 --> 02:42.795 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% lot of work deer work. So we've seen a lot of 02:42.896 --> 02:45.665 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% deer damage farm this year. And it's getting 02:45.765 --> 02:49.002 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% worse when you have areas of development. We're doing a lot 02:49.102 --> 02:52.205 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% of deer damage studies to see how we can mitigate that really 02:52.305 --> 02:55.675 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% estimate some of the yield losses and things we have but 02:55.775 --> 02:58.311 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% It's great. It's a good place and 02:58.411 --> 03:01.347 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% you know we get to take home a whole lot of produce. 03:01.447 --> 03:04.984 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% We also donated a lot of produce to the local food ministries. 03:05.084 --> 03:06.653 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Well, that's wonderful because we 03:06.753 --> 03:08.888 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% from everything we're reading here, there's been 03:08.988 --> 03:12.025 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% such exaggerated pressure on everybody who's trying to 03:12.125 --> 03:16.429 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% help families who are in need as this continues to be 03:16.529 --> 03:21.167 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% such a problem for us. 03:21.267 --> 03:25.738 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Terasa Lott is over in Darlington. Terasa is among 03:25.838 --> 03:28.741 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% used to be a Storm Water, Storm Research Agent and 03:28.841 --> 03:31.477 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% she really has an infinity for those topics. 03:31.578 --> 03:34.781 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% But now she's taking on the mantle of trying to 03:34.881 --> 03:36.516 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% keep all the master gardener programs 03:36.616 --> 03:39.852 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% coordinated and reminding people I think Terasa, 03:39.953 --> 03:41.754 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% they don't need to worry about getting hours in 03:41.854 --> 03:45.458 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% right now. A lot of things we do for nothing. They are. 03:45.558 --> 03:47.794 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% It's been a difficult time for our master gardeners 03:47.894 --> 03:50.797 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% who are normally very active helping to carry 03:50.897 --> 03:55.068 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% on the mission of Clemson Cooperative Extension we don't 03:55.168 --> 03:58.338 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% want them to worry and fret. We understand that in 03:58.438 --> 04:01.174 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% person volunteering just isn't safe at this time. 04:01.274 --> 04:05.812 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% So we definitely have relaxed those normal requirements and 04:05.912 --> 04:08.214 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% encourage them to put their health and well 04:08.314 --> 04:11.718 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% being as their top priorities. Terasa you and Vicky Bertagnolli 04:11.818 --> 04:14.220 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% and Sean and every now then and then I'll remember 04:14.320 --> 04:17.190 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that I'm supposed to do social media too. 04:17.290 --> 04:20.560 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Yeah I do so much on our Facebook page and you 04:20.660 --> 04:23.463 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% a while back started asking people to share 04:23.563 --> 04:26.933 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the fruits of their labor visually by sending 04:27.033 --> 04:30.236 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% some pictures of what they like about their yard 04:30.336 --> 04:32.171 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and what we've been working on. Have you 04:32.272 --> 04:36.509 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% got some to share with us this week? We sure do. This has 04:36.609 --> 04:39.479 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% turned into what we call the gardens of the week. 04:39.579 --> 04:41.781 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% I think of it of like a virtual field trip 04:41.881 --> 04:45.752 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% around the state, sometimes out of state. So let's take a 04:45.852 --> 04:49.856 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% look. We're going to start in Columbia with Abbye 04:49.956 --> 04:53.393 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Hope Smith. She's shared a collage that includes 04:53.493 --> 04:57.430 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% perennial hibiscus in between some vegetables growing 04:57.530 --> 05:00.800 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% in her yard. Angie D'Amato of 05:00.900 --> 05:04.037 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Murrells Inlet sent us a photograph she calls her Zen 05:04.137 --> 05:06.739 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% garden. And I sure can see why I would 05:06.839 --> 05:10.343 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% feel very Zen if my garden looks like that as well. 05:10.443 --> 05:12.845 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% Red Bee balm is the focus of the photo 05:12.945 --> 05:16.816 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% submitted by Ginger Brandt also from Columbia. 05:16.916 --> 05:19.385 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Columbia was popular this week we're going to wrap 05:19.485 --> 05:23.823 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% up there with a photo from Butch Yowler of a little 05:23.923 --> 05:27.560 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% pineapple that he grew. Thanks to everyone for sharing your 05:27.660 --> 05:30.363 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% photographs I enjoy seeing them I know others 05:30.463 --> 05:33.733 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% do as well. Please know that they are in no way 05:33.833 --> 05:36.602 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% judged or scored. We just randomly select those 05:36.703 --> 05:39.339 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that have been submitted and whenever you see a 05:39.439 --> 05:42.775 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% post on our Facebook page, you're welcome to comment 05:42.875 --> 05:45.178 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% in there with your photographs your city or 05:45.278 --> 05:48.181 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% town. And please be sure the photos are landscape, 05:48.281 --> 05:51.117 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% which means longer than tall, as that works better 05:51.217 --> 05:53.820 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% on TV. Thank you for sharing 05:53.920 --> 05:57.390 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% this with me. And Terasa also every week, people 05:57.490 --> 06:00.593 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% have an opportunity to see the pictures that 06:00.693 --> 06:05.231 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Barbara Smith takes. Yes, Barbara is a fantastic 06:05.331 --> 06:07.400 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% photographer from our home and garden 06:07.500 --> 06:10.903 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% information center. We try to share her photos a lot 06:11.003 --> 06:16.909 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% of them she takes in her own yard, Crooked Trail Farms. 06:17.009 --> 06:19.879 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% We actually talked with her recently and she was 06:19.979 --> 06:22.749 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% sitting in her kitchen with her corgi dog 06:22.849 --> 06:25.017 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% working very hard answering questions, 06:25.118 --> 06:28.054 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% because if you have gardening questions 06:28.154 --> 06:31.357 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% HGIC is wide open. They're just all 06:31.457 --> 06:34.894 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% working from home. And so don't hesitate to call that 06:34.994 --> 06:37.897 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% toll free number Monday through Friday and you will 06:37.997 --> 06:41.401 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% get a very fine agent to help you with whatever is 06:41.501 --> 06:45.905 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% troubling you in your garden or landscape. Terasa 06:46.005 --> 06:50.476 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% I know people put Facebook questions, 06:50.576 --> 06:54.213 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% questions on Facebook and on Tuesday nights 06:54.313 --> 06:57.383 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% when we're having this streaming live 06:57.483 --> 07:00.219 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% version going out there a lot of questions too. 07:00.319 --> 07:04.924 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% So have you compiled some for our two guests tonight? 07:05.024 --> 07:08.094 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% I have. You know there's never a shortage of questions. 07:08.194 --> 07:10.696 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Especially, it seems tomatoes in the summertime so 07:10.797 --> 07:14.033 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% we're gonna start with a tomato question. Someone was 07:14.133 --> 07:17.637 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% seeing yellow spots and says what in the world are 07:17.737 --> 07:20.239 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% the yellow spots on my tomatoes? And what 07:20.339 --> 07:24.777 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% can be done about them. Do we have an answer? Oh goodness 07:24.877 --> 07:27.346 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Zack! I have a feeling! I might even know 07:27.447 --> 07:30.216 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% this one. I'm waiting to hear what you're gonna 07:30.316 --> 07:32.752 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% say about it. Amanda 07:32.852 --> 07:36.489 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% so unfortunately the yellow spots on tomatoes, 07:36.589 --> 07:40.626 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% we wait all season. You got this big tomato just 07:40.726 --> 07:42.762 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% ripening up and you start noticing these yellow 07:42.862 --> 07:46.332 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% blotches or spots on it. Wow! That's very typical 07:46.432 --> 07:49.235 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% of stink bug damage. We have many species 07:49.335 --> 07:51.838 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% of stink bugs here in South Carolina as well as 07:51.938 --> 07:54.707 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% leaf footed bugs which are pretty much cousins 07:54.807 --> 07:59.645 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% of the stink bug. And they are very sharp hibiscus 07:59.745 --> 08:03.382 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Think of a straw, when they stick it into 08:03.483 --> 08:07.553 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% the tomato and as they are sucking 08:07.653 --> 08:10.623 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% the juice out of the tomato you end up with that yellow 08:10.723 --> 08:13.659 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% spot and it doesn't ripen right there. So you may have 08:13.759 --> 08:16.662 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% multiple spots all around the tomato. 08:16.762 --> 08:19.565 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% It is still edible but those spots just won't 08:19.665 --> 08:22.401 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% ripen up as well. I try to use those tomatoes and 08:22.502 --> 08:24.470 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% soups and stews and things, cooking them 08:24.570 --> 08:28.274 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% versus you know put it on a sandwich. Because 08:28.374 --> 08:31.711 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% stink bugs are very hard to manage in a home garden as 08:31.811 --> 08:35.081 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% well all commercial scale, Stink bugs go through 08:35.181 --> 08:38.918 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% many different life cycles. So the eggs are 08:39.018 --> 08:42.054 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% gonna be laid on the plants. And as the eggs 08:42.154 --> 08:45.925 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% hatch they go through different stages and so that's really the 08:46.025 --> 08:49.161 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% time you need to be out in the garden scouting looking for 08:49.262 --> 08:52.865 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% those because they're a lot easier to manage in that young 08:52.965 --> 08:55.668 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% juvenile stage. When they get to be the full stink bug that 08:55.768 --> 08:59.605 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% we all know and recognize. It's almost impossible. I think 08:59.705 --> 09:02.475 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Tony Melton says that you shake them 09:02.575 --> 09:07.113 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% off and kill them with two bricks. So if that works for you 09:07.213 --> 09:10.483 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that's great. But it is a tough pest to manage. 09:10.583 --> 09:12.685 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% A couple things you 09:12.785 --> 09:15.755 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% can do is scout early. A lot of the damage you're seeing 09:15.855 --> 09:17.890 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% on the tomatoes happens early in the 09:17.990 --> 09:21.527 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% season. So when the fruit, you know after the blossoms 09:21.627 --> 09:24.564 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% drop and the fruit start to develop, look for those 09:24.664 --> 09:27.166 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% stages of the stink bug. Real easy to twiddle your 09:27.266 --> 09:31.537 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% thumbs at that point in time. So that's about 09:31.637 --> 09:33.639 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% the best management technique certainly while we're 09:33.739 --> 09:37.510 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% out there. Okay so we just really, really limited 09:37.610 --> 09:41.080 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% with insecticides that are effective against 09:41.180 --> 09:43.749 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% stink bugs, so when they're really young, just try 09:43.849 --> 09:47.219 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% to get out there and - And there are 09:47.320 --> 09:49.055 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% some things you can do some growers that 09:49.155 --> 09:50.790 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% I work with that are pretty innovative. 09:50.890 --> 09:54.594 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% They're growing buckwheat strips around their tomatoes. 09:54.694 --> 09:56.862 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% The buckwheat attracts a lot of beneficial insects. 09:56.963 --> 09:59.432 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% There's a lot of there's a few 09:59.532 --> 10:02.335 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% beneficial insects that actually lay eggs on the 10:02.435 --> 10:05.571 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% head and neck of the stinkbug and leaf-footed bugs 10:05.671 --> 10:09.375 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% when they hatch they bore into the insect and kind of 10:09.475 --> 10:12.111 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% eat them from the inside out. So I saw a bunch of 10:12.211 --> 10:14.246 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% those this year, which makes me happy 10:14.347 --> 10:16.115 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% because that means the growers are spraying as 10:16.215 --> 10:19.085 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% many chemicals to get to the beneficials. 10:19.185 --> 10:22.755 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% So you know growing buckwheat, keeping zenias and things 10:22.855 --> 10:25.992 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% around the garden really helps in that regard. Isn't it funny 10:26.092 --> 10:27.994 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% how we get so excited to think that somebody's 10:28.094 --> 10:31.364 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% gonna come and lay an egg in the head and knack them. 10:31.464 --> 10:33.466 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% (laughs) Like a sci-fi movie. 10:33.566 --> 10:35.735 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% But it serves those stink bugs right. Well thanks 10:35.835 --> 10:38.437 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% That's great. And now we're going down to 10:38.537 --> 10:41.207 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Beaufort. Laura Lee thank you for introducing us to 10:41.307 --> 10:43.409 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% this wonderful feature in that town. 10:43.509 --> 10:45.711 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% The Spanish Moss Trail. 11:05.364 --> 11:07.333 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% I'm in Beaufort, South Carolina talking to Dean 11:07.433 --> 11:10.703 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Moss who is the unpaid Executive director of the 11:10.803 --> 11:13.706 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Spanish moss trail. Dean, apparently when a 11:13.806 --> 11:17.910 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% railroad closed, other doors opened. It did. 11:18.010 --> 11:19.912 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% This was the old Port Royal railroad which 11:20.012 --> 11:23.349 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% had been around since 1870, was the lifeline 11:23.449 --> 11:26.485 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% of Beaufort for many years. There was a port at 11:26.585 --> 11:29.422 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% Port Royal. There was a port at Port Royal and as 11:29.522 --> 11:31.757 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% things went on, the railroad served the port. 11:31.857 --> 11:34.727 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% So, it went back and forth, two trains a week, 11:34.827 --> 11:38.564 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% something like that, carrying mostly gravel 11:38.664 --> 11:41.434 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and things like that. But in 2003, 11:41.534 --> 11:44.704 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the railroad closed. The Beaufort Jasper Water 11:44.804 --> 11:46.972 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and Sewer Authority, purchased the right of 11:47.073 --> 11:49.308 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% way. And you were working for them. I was working 11:49.408 --> 11:52.311 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% for them. And that was principally for pipeline 11:52.411 --> 11:54.914 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% you know, for be able to bury pipelines water and 11:55.014 --> 11:59.518 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% sewer lines. And they leased the 11:59.618 --> 12:03.222 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% surface of the right of way to the county. 12:03.322 --> 12:06.292 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% There is a kind of national movement and perhaps even 12:06.392 --> 12:09.528 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% international of rails to trails. Is that correct? 12:09.628 --> 12:12.498 align:left position:25%,start line:93.33% size:75% That's correct. 12:12.598 --> 12:16.469 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% And of course there used to be the small railroads 12:16.569 --> 12:21.340 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% all over the country and as things changed as 12:21.440 --> 12:24.510 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% they tend to do, those rail roads closed. 12:24.610 --> 12:27.980 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Those rights of way though still were there. So in 12:28.080 --> 12:31.250 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% communities all over the United States, those right 12:31.350 --> 12:35.387 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% of ways are being re-purposed for trails. 12:35.488 --> 12:39.425 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% And how long will it be when it's finally finished? 12:39.525 --> 12:41.393 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% The current plan calls for it to be about 12:41.494 --> 12:45.531 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% 16 miles by the time we're done. It starts at the sands in 12:45.631 --> 12:48.000 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Port Royal, right on the right on the water there 12:48.100 --> 12:50.803 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and runs all the way up the length of Port Royal 12:50.903 --> 12:53.739 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Island, which is what we're on to the county 12:53.839 --> 12:57.042 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% fishing pier at - on the whale 12:57.143 --> 13:01.280 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% bridge. So, you can ride from one end of Port Royal 13:01.380 --> 13:04.617 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Island to the other. And plans are in place I 13:04.717 --> 13:07.286 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% believe that's really going to be a major 13:07.386 --> 13:09.722 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% driver for tourism and just for the local people 13:09.822 --> 13:12.091 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that they can actually go from Port Royal into 13:12.191 --> 13:14.794 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the downtown of Beaufort. Yes. We're working on 13:14.894 --> 13:17.763 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% connecting both of those communities into the 13:17.863 --> 13:20.566 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% trail. And you said already people are using 13:20.666 --> 13:23.068 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that as an alternate to commuting in their car. Yeah 13:23.169 --> 13:25.070 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% we have people that are using it 13:25.171 --> 13:28.073 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% to go to work every day. Besides that let's 13:28.174 --> 13:30.843 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% talk about the impact on tourism. 13:30.943 --> 13:35.948 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% It is a very significant, increasingly significant 13:36.048 --> 13:38.450 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% factor in people's decisions to come to 13:38.551 --> 13:41.654 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Beaufort. We have a way of tracking people who 13:41.754 --> 13:44.757 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% inquired about the trail and we've had inquiries 13:44.857 --> 13:47.827 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% from all 50 states and five or six foreign 13:47.927 --> 13:50.329 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% countries, where people will go and discover the 13:50.429 --> 13:52.932 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% trail and they want to find out about it and 13:53.032 --> 13:55.367 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% they go on the website to see what they can find 13:55.467 --> 13:57.803 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% out. And of course, Beaufort has beautiful weather 13:57.903 --> 14:00.873 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% most of the time. And a lot of people bike. 14:00.973 --> 14:03.275 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% And of course if you're on a bike you get 14:03.375 --> 14:05.010 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that wonderful little breeze. And I 14:05.110 --> 14:07.780 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% think that bicycle parking spots are opening all 14:07.880 --> 14:11.517 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% over the place. They are and what we found when we 14:11.617 --> 14:15.120 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% when this trail opened was that old bicycles 14:15.221 --> 14:19.091 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% came out of garages that people hadn't used in years, 14:19.191 --> 14:21.961 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% because all of a sudden there was a safe place 14:22.061 --> 14:24.964 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% where they could ride. If you're not a hardcore 14:25.064 --> 14:27.132 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% bike rider you really aren't interested in 14:27.233 --> 14:29.969 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% riding with the cars, as we were walking this 14:30.069 --> 14:33.172 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% morning, the bicyclists were very thoughtful in 14:33.272 --> 14:35.107 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% announcing that they were coming and where they 14:35.207 --> 14:38.711 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% were passing. And it looks like some were 14:38.811 --> 14:41.480 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% young mothers of children and different people, 14:41.580 --> 14:44.149 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% skateboarders and all, people have a very strong 14:44.250 --> 14:46.151 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% sense of responsibility and courtesy. Is that 14:46.252 --> 14:48.754 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% what y'all are finding? Yes it is. 14:48.854 --> 14:51.690 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Again we have all kinds of people that use the trail. 14:51.790 --> 14:54.193 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% And at sometimes of the 14:54.293 --> 14:56.829 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% day it's, it's very empty. But other times of the 14:56.929 --> 15:00.199 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% day it is a lot of people on it. 15:00.299 --> 15:02.134 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% So, I think you've developed kind of a 15:02.234 --> 15:05.871 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% culture that has kind of emerged on this 15:05.971 --> 15:09.441 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% trail and it's interesting to me that 15:09.541 --> 15:12.912 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% almost nobody that you pass on this trail won't say, 15:13.012 --> 15:16.615 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% 'Hello!' Y'all have different 15:16.715 --> 15:19.585 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% entrances to the trail and in some places I 15:19.685 --> 15:21.220 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% believe you've built trestles so people 15:21.320 --> 15:24.089 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% can go fishing. Right, you know Beaufort is a 15:24.189 --> 15:27.526 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% community of islands and water. And so there are 15:27.626 --> 15:29.862 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% three places on the trail we've built trestles and 15:29.962 --> 15:32.965 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% bridges for people to get across. A couple places we 15:33.065 --> 15:35.567 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% just repurpose the old railroad trestles that 15:35.668 --> 15:38.470 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% were there and in another places we build new ones. 15:38.570 --> 15:41.173 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% But on the one here that we're close to, we've 15:41.273 --> 15:43.709 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% specifically designed it to allow for fishing and 15:43.809 --> 15:46.578 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% we've knocked out some sides so people can 15:46.679 --> 15:48.514 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% get out the fishing without being in the 15:48.614 --> 15:50.249 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% middle of the trail and obstructing 15:50.349 --> 15:52.985 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% bike riders and walkers as they use the trail. 15:53.085 --> 15:55.087 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% You also have historical markers and of course 15:55.187 --> 15:57.890 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Beaufort does have a long history. There's one in 15:57.990 --> 16:00.626 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% particular, that you think is quite fascinating and 16:00.726 --> 16:02.628 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% perhaps tells a story that's not as well 16:02.728 --> 16:04.930 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% known as it should be. 16:05.030 --> 16:09.201 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Yes. And specifically the one I'm thinking of is the 16:09.301 --> 16:13.572 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the history of downtown of the area where the 16:13.672 --> 16:17.042 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% trail goes through what was the industrial area 16:17.142 --> 16:20.112 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% of Beaufort was where the station was 16:20.212 --> 16:22.881 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% it was where the light plant was and a 16:22.982 --> 16:26.585 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% number of the industrial activities occurred there, 16:26.685 --> 16:29.621 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% starting in about 1870, when the 16:29.722 --> 16:32.224 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% train originally stopped in Beaufort. 16:32.324 --> 16:35.928 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% We have put historical markers out, about 16:36.028 --> 16:38.697 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% 17 of them right now, scattered up and down 16:38.797 --> 16:41.266 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the trail , identifying places of interest for 16:41.367 --> 16:44.870 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% people. And there are more to come. 16:44.970 --> 16:47.740 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% And you've had a partner, a very important member of 16:47.840 --> 16:50.009 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the community who has worked with you and been 16:50.109 --> 16:52.177 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% a great supporter. Let's talk a little bit about 16:52.277 --> 16:55.014 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the importance of that. Yeah we were 16:55.114 --> 16:59.051 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% extremely lucky from the very beginning because, 16:59.151 --> 17:01.286 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% one of our local residents, a part time 17:01.387 --> 17:06.258 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% resident who has a large estate here on Port Royal Island. 17:06.358 --> 17:10.729 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Jim Kennedy who is the CEO of Cox 17:10.829 --> 17:12.965 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Communications but also of the James M. 17:13.065 --> 17:16.735 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% Cox Foundation is a great bike rider and 17:16.835 --> 17:19.872 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the trail guy. And so, he was absolutely 17:19.972 --> 17:22.041 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% instrumental in getting this project done. 17:22.141 --> 17:24.076 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% We couldn't have done it without him. 17:24.176 --> 17:26.812 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% He's a true gentleman and just 17:26.912 --> 17:29.715 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% an inspiration in terms of his devotion to 17:29.815 --> 17:32.117 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% this kind of thing. He made 17:32.217 --> 17:35.187 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% significant financial donations and 17:35.287 --> 17:38.090 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% let his staff and people that he's working 17:38.190 --> 17:40.893 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% with in Atlanta come down and guide us through all 17:40.993 --> 17:44.730 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% this process. So we are eternally grateful to him. 17:44.830 --> 17:47.066 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% And you have your friends group has been able to 17:47.166 --> 17:50.803 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% have benches and some facilities for 17:50.903 --> 17:53.739 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% people to use and do things that just give 17:53.839 --> 17:56.075 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% people a little more pleasurable experience 17:56.175 --> 17:58.310 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% and the landscaping that y'all have been able to 17:58.410 --> 18:01.346 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% install is so lovely too. Some of it we put in 18:01.447 --> 18:04.283 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% as the trail was built. Other parts of it have 18:04.383 --> 18:07.286 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% come in after the fact. The friends have done 18:07.386 --> 18:09.988 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% some of it. We've been very, very lucky. 18:10.089 --> 18:12.257 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Our garden clubs here in Beaufort have contributed 18:12.357 --> 18:13.826 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% and done a bunch of things. 18:13.926 --> 18:17.763 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% And then we have individuals who have just adopted some of 18:17.863 --> 18:21.633 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% these places and go out there every day and tend to the 18:21.733 --> 18:24.203 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% flowers and the plants around the edges. 18:24.303 --> 18:26.138 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Dean, I think that they were mighty lucky that 18:26.238 --> 18:28.173 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% you were deeply involved in the water and sewer 18:28.273 --> 18:31.643 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% business. And had the vision and had other 18:31.743 --> 18:33.712 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% people in the community who had the vision to see 18:33.812 --> 18:36.348 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that this could happen. It's a real treasure for 18:36.448 --> 18:40.886 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% this community. Well, thank you. Thank you. It is one - 18:40.986 --> 18:43.789 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% It's kind of a labor of love for me and 18:43.889 --> 18:46.425 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% it is really a community effort. Lots of people 18:46.525 --> 18:48.760 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% involved and lots of people have donated and 18:48.861 --> 18:51.630 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% given time and their energy to make this real. 18:51.730 --> 18:53.732 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Thank you so much. Thank you. 19:16.822 --> 19:19.725 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% That was really a delightful experience. 19:19.825 --> 19:23.595 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% It was beautiful. They have dedicated master 19:23.695 --> 19:25.898 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% gardeners I believe. Who have been out there 19:25.998 --> 19:27.900 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% making so many beautiful spots and tending to them. 19:28.000 --> 19:31.603 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% And got bicycles down there. So you don't have to 19:31.703 --> 19:35.908 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% have your bicycle. You can just ride down there and 19:36.008 --> 19:39.411 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% be room with whom you're closely connected. 19:39.511 --> 19:42.414 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Staying with safety these days and on a bicycle 19:42.514 --> 19:45.017 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% be out in that wonderful fresh air and not have to 19:45.117 --> 19:49.321 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% worry about cars when you have you just been very 19:49.421 --> 19:53.559 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% polite to pedestrians. Terasa what else 19:53.659 --> 19:55.794 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% have we got something coming up that Laura Lee 19:55.894 --> 19:59.198 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% might be able to help us with. I think we do. Well 19:59.298 --> 20:02.668 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% Zack mentioned a beneficial insects and we 20:02.768 --> 20:04.670 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% have a viewer who's interested in some 20:04.770 --> 20:07.539 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% recommendations for native plants for 20:07.639 --> 20:11.810 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% pollinators and for birds. And also asked about 20:11.910 --> 20:16.315 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% single plantings versus groups of plantings. 20:16.415 --> 20:17.649 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% Well, Lee I know you go 20:17.749 --> 20:20.319 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% to a native plant conferences up in North 20:20.419 --> 20:23.789 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Carolina, I believe. So I think you're just 20:23.889 --> 20:27.292 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% the person to answer this and tell us what the 20:27.392 --> 20:29.761 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% name of that one is in case next year when they 20:29.861 --> 20:33.031 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% have it, we all might want to go. Well I am happy 20:33.131 --> 20:37.603 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% To endorse the Native Plants Conference. 20:37.703 --> 20:42.241 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% People from all over the southeast 20:42.341 --> 20:46.778 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% come to that conference. It's been going on for 35 years. 20:46.878 --> 20:50.682 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% But it's great networking. There are people 20:50.782 --> 20:57.055 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% who are growers. There are plant people. There are 20:57.155 --> 21:02.594 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% just every kind and just people interested in native plants. 21:02.694 --> 21:07.966 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% beautiful plants so the setting is so nice too. So, I've also 21:08.066 --> 21:12.170 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% been doing some work with 21:12.271 --> 21:15.807 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% the school garden initiative. And I was 21:15.907 --> 21:19.811 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% able to go to a webinar this past week with Betty Griffin 21:19.911 --> 21:23.715 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% from University of Georgia. She's a 21:23.815 --> 21:26.985 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Pollinator and School Gardening Coordinator for 21:27.085 --> 21:30.222 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the whole state of Georgia. And she did a workshop 21:30.322 --> 21:33.292 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% one year where she 21:33.392 --> 21:37.729 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% taught us how to make - tales and that was a 21:37.829 --> 21:41.266 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% lot of fun so there are a lot of things that you 21:41.366 --> 21:46.972 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% can do to encourage native insects and birds to come to 21:47.072 --> 21:50.475 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% your garden. I really like feeders. 21:50.575 --> 21:56.448 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% I like having a bird bath around, things that attract 21:56.548 --> 22:02.087 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the beneficial insect control if you will and also you 22:02.187 --> 22:05.891 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% know give them something to eat. So yes we want to plant 22:05.991 --> 22:11.063 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% things like berries, all of our 22:11.163 --> 22:17.769 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% zenias, golden rod. These wonderful plants. 22:17.869 --> 22:21.173 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% There are some of the vebasenias that have 22:21.273 --> 22:25.477 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% hollow stems. So out of our solitary bees 22:25.577 --> 22:29.548 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% actually less in hollow stems. 22:29.648 --> 22:33.251 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% I know you talked about that on shows before too. 22:33.352 --> 22:35.887 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% Red honey suckle, the native 22:35.987 --> 22:38.790 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% honey suckle is a good one to have on your 22:38.890 --> 22:43.261 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% your vines. There are a lot of just the native 22:43.362 --> 22:47.933 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% trees that if you could let them grow in your yard or property, 22:48.033 --> 22:53.338 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% have some native areas to encourage things like oaks, 22:53.438 --> 22:59.010 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% willows, fruits, yaupon holly, inkberry holly. 22:59.111 --> 23:05.250 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Those kind of rich shrubs and hardwoods are good to have 23:05.350 --> 23:08.487 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% for the beneficial insects. Because birds feed their 23:08.587 --> 23:12.391 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% babies insects. Yes and that's a reliable food 23:12.491 --> 23:16.061 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% source. Laura Lee. I love zenias because 23:16.161 --> 23:18.430 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% obviously the color they bring to the house. When I'm 23:18.530 --> 23:21.233 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% getting a pack of seeds I try to get one that 23:21.333 --> 23:24.236 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% has more of an open center instead of more 23:24.336 --> 23:28.840 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% petals. Is that correct avenue to take? 23:28.940 --> 23:32.511 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Yeah because the word pollinator, the word 23:32.611 --> 23:35.480 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% pollinator means they're coming for pollen. 23:35.580 --> 23:39.518 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% When you're offering the pollen, they take that pollen back 23:39.618 --> 23:43.388 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% to their babies, they feed the bees especially feed the 23:43.488 --> 23:49.461 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% pollen to their young. The plants also offer nectar 23:49.561 --> 23:54.633 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% so the food the insects, the humming- 23:54.733 --> 23:59.704 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% birds use that nectar too. So the open center flowers 23:59.805 --> 24:03.074 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% are going to offer more of the things that the insects 24:03.175 --> 24:04.709 align:left position:25%,start line:93.33% size:75% are coming for. 24:04.810 --> 24:08.013 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Thank you so much Laura Lee. And since we've been 24:08.113 --> 24:11.683 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% talking about pollinators, people have many, many 24:11.783 --> 24:14.386 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% questions about neonicotinoids, 24:14.486 --> 24:19.558 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% insecticides, a family of insecticides and we want 24:19.658 --> 24:23.795 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% people to have science based research. 24:23.895 --> 24:26.598 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% JC Chong. Dr. JC Chong is 24:26.698 --> 24:29.835 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% truly an expert in this up at the Pee Dee Rec. 24:29.935 --> 24:33.705 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% He was kind enough to speak with us and try to shed some 24:33.805 --> 24:38.410 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% light on this topic. I'm speaking today with 24:38.510 --> 24:42.280 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% JC Chong. JC is a professor and 24:42.380 --> 24:46.117 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% extension specialist and entomologist. And he is 24:46.218 --> 24:49.254 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% stationed at the Pee Dee Rec over in Florence. 24:49.354 --> 24:52.557 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% JC, thanks for coming today and there's 24:52.657 --> 24:57.095 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% a lot of concern among the public 24:57.195 --> 25:01.466 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% about the neonicotinoids. 25:01.566 --> 25:04.402 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% And so I think the best thing we can do is try to get 25:04.503 --> 25:08.340 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% them scientific research. And so 25:08.440 --> 25:10.041 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% we appreciate your sharing your knowledge 25:10.141 --> 25:13.645 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% with us today. Well thank you for having me on. 25:13.745 --> 25:17.916 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% First of all, what are neonicotinoids and kind 25:18.016 --> 25:21.786 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% of what's their history? What was before them? 25:21.887 --> 25:25.790 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Just what are they? Right so neonicotinoids is the 25:25.891 --> 25:29.194 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% cost of insecticide that is probably one of the 25:29.294 --> 25:32.964 align:left position:25%,start line:0% size:75% war core for our industry of agriculture. 25:33.064 --> 25:35.734 align:left position:25%,start line:0% size:75% We have used it quite a bit actually. 25:35.834 --> 25:38.670 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% So the neonicotinoids help if you break it a part. 25:38.770 --> 25:43.542 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% The word neo means new and nicotinoids is synthetic 25:43.642 --> 25:47.646 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% nicotine. So it's actually a 25:47.746 --> 25:50.682 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% classic compound working in a very similar 25:50.782 --> 25:53.485 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% way as nicotine which is the active 25:53.585 --> 25:57.556 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% ingredient in tobacco. Nicotine has been used for 25:57.656 --> 26:00.525 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% thousands of years to control the insects. 26:00.625 --> 26:05.664 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% But nicotine has a very nasty property which is 26:05.764 --> 26:09.067 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that they have very, very high toxicity to 26:09.167 --> 26:13.405 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% mammals. So the neonicotinoids, the whole reason 26:13.505 --> 26:16.508 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% why they won't basically developed and created 26:16.608 --> 26:20.078 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% was really to replace nicotine 26:20.178 --> 26:25.417 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% also organophosphate as a safer more selective insecticide. 26:25.517 --> 26:30.522 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% So the animal world overall is greatly 26:30.622 --> 26:34.259 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% less impacted with 26:34.359 --> 26:39.130 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% neonicotinoids than the nicotine based pesticides. 26:39.230 --> 26:43.268 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Correct! Correct! So the toxicity of neonicotinoids 26:43.368 --> 26:45.870 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% to a mammal is several 26:45.971 --> 26:50.976 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% hundred times safer than nicotine. 26:51.076 --> 26:55.280 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% But it's effective on insects and there was a 26:55.380 --> 26:59.618 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% tragic situation when a pesticide applicator did 26:59.718 --> 27:03.221 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% not do what you pesticide specialist 27:03.321 --> 27:05.890 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% always tell us to do, which is 27:05.991 --> 27:10.729 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% well we always say read the label. Label is the law. So 27:10.829 --> 27:13.932 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% you need to be reading the label just not only 27:14.032 --> 27:17.869 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% because it's the law, but also 27:17.969 --> 27:20.739 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% because that is the safe way to actually use the 27:20.839 --> 27:25.210 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% product itself. So if you go, if you didn't follow 27:25.310 --> 27:27.579 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% the law it ended up hurting somebody or 27:27.679 --> 27:30.849 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% something. And that could be very tracking and it 27:30.949 --> 27:32.917 align:left position:25%,start line:93.33% size:75% could cost your 27:33.018 --> 27:36.688 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% business a lot of trouble. Well and also it tells 27:36.788 --> 27:38.857 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% you what you need to do as far as protective 27:38.957 --> 27:41.793 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% equipment, to protect, to 27:41.893 --> 27:45.697 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% keep yourself safe when you're working. Absolutely and you 27:45.797 --> 27:48.266 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% know every insecticide it doesn't matter how 27:48.366 --> 27:50.935 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% safe they are, there are still some form of chemical 27:51.036 --> 27:55.440 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% and there may be some type of consequences. And therefore you 27:55.540 --> 27:58.810 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% need to do everything you can to protect yourself and test 27:58.910 --> 28:01.680 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% your personal protective equipment requirements 28:01.780 --> 28:04.616 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% on pesticide label is pretty important because that's 28:04.716 --> 28:09.521 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% one they look for too that really makes yourself safer. 28:09.621 --> 28:13.458 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% JC tell us about the event 28:13.558 --> 28:16.394 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% that brought this to the public's 28:16.494 --> 28:20.031 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% consciousness, when the pesticide applicator made 28:20.131 --> 28:25.136 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the tragic application he did. Sure and 28:25.236 --> 28:28.373 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the whole country use the neonicotinoids for 28:28.473 --> 28:30.942 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% pollinators. It has been going on for sometime but 28:31.042 --> 28:35.480 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% it really brings - comes to a boil in 2013. 28:35.580 --> 28:38.249 align:left position:25%,start line:93.33% size:75% In June 2013, 28:38.349 --> 28:42.353 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% There was one landscape operator who was in Oregon 28:42.454 --> 28:46.057 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% that make an application to a flower 28:46.157 --> 28:49.728 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% and within hours there were 28:49.828 --> 28:52.630 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% thousands of bumblebees dropping dead right 28:52.731 --> 28:55.734 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% around the trees on the property line. And it's 28:55.834 --> 28:59.604 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% causing a huge uproar and since then there was 28:59.704 --> 29:02.774 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% a lot of pause to actually cancel even 29:02.874 --> 29:07.045 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% limit the use neonicotinoids because or their impact 29:07.145 --> 29:12.717 align:left position:25%,start line:93.33% size:75% on pollinators. 29:12.817 --> 29:15.920 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% The industry that grows flowers, 29:16.020 --> 29:19.557 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% annuals and herbaceous perennials and sells them 29:19.657 --> 29:23.228 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% every Spring and Fall to consumers is a big 29:23.328 --> 29:25.363 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% industry and I think they reached out to you 29:25.463 --> 29:30.001 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% and other people to do some studies to find out 29:30.101 --> 29:34.639 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% if their products were endangering bees. 29:34.739 --> 29:37.876 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% And describe how y'all when about that please JC 29:37.976 --> 29:39.043 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% and what the results, 29:39.144 --> 29:42.480 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% y'all's findings were. Sure and we actually 29:42.580 --> 29:45.416 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% conducted several, a series of study basically 29:45.517 --> 29:48.620 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% with funding from USDA, especially crop research 29:48.720 --> 29:52.423 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% initiative and also some trade organizations as well. 29:52.524 --> 29:54.259 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% For example, American flooring 29:54.359 --> 29:56.561 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% down in and also the Cultural Research 29:56.661 --> 29:59.430 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Institute and all of these agencies, 29:59.531 --> 30:02.767 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% they sponsor us, actually providing research funding. 30:02.867 --> 30:06.871 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% Really what we and the sponsors 30:06.971 --> 30:09.774 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% try to find out if 'Okay 30:09.874 --> 30:13.344 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% let's find out what is the impact of 30:13.444 --> 30:17.081 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% neonicotinoids applied to ornamental plants 30:17.182 --> 30:20.385 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% on pollinator. And let's figure out what 30:20.485 --> 30:23.154 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% is the impact and try to figure out a way to 30:23.254 --> 30:26.691 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% really that risk so that we don't have to 30:26.791 --> 30:29.961 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% suffer the consequences in Oregon 30:30.061 --> 30:33.865 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% once again. So there's quite a few studies within 30:33.965 --> 30:38.703 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% this particular one. And there are two major studies. One of 30:38.803 --> 30:43.274 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% them is to look at when you apply a neonicotinoid 30:43.374 --> 30:45.610 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% insecticide and several other insecticides to the 30:45.710 --> 30:50.648 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% ornamental plants. And what would happen? How 30:50.748 --> 30:53.384 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% much of that active ingredients actually 30:53.484 --> 30:56.955 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% ended up in the nectars and pollen. I see. Because 30:57.055 --> 30:59.757 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% you know the pollinators you know would just feed on the 30:59.858 --> 31:04.295 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% nectars and that babies feed on the pollen. So you need 31:04.395 --> 31:08.032 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% to know how much of that are in nectars and pollen. And how 31:08.132 --> 31:11.803 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% that is it impact pollinators and also the pollen 31:11.903 --> 31:18.843 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% count. And did you also study it as 31:18.943 --> 31:21.713 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% period of time after application sometimes? 31:21.813 --> 31:24.515 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% Correct! So what we're looking at 31:24.616 --> 31:27.752 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% are not just neonicotinoids but some of the newer 31:27.852 --> 31:31.990 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% sustaining insecticides as well. Just looking, we know 31:32.090 --> 31:34.525 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% neonicotinoids might have some issues, but what about 31:34.626 --> 31:38.830 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% the other one. So we have to right now and try to do that. 31:38.930 --> 31:41.432 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% And we also look at different application rate. 31:41.532 --> 31:45.103 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% The high label rate and that low label rate. 31:45.203 --> 31:47.939 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% We also look at whether there is a difference if you 31:48.039 --> 31:53.678 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% can spray them or when you drench them. So these 31:53.778 --> 31:57.448 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% can be taken up by the plant and 31:57.548 --> 32:00.118 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% they can be systemic. Is that right? So what's 32:00.218 --> 32:03.121 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% happening is that you can spray it and it landed on 32:03.221 --> 32:06.124 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% the leaf surface itself. The compound can actually 32:06.224 --> 32:09.460 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% penetrate the leaf tissue and go into the conductive 32:09.560 --> 32:12.563 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% tissue inside the plant to flow inside and end up taking it to 32:12.664 --> 32:16.901 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the rest of the plant. Or if you drench it the root is 32:17.001 --> 32:22.006 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% going to soak up all that insecticide and bring it up 32:22.106 --> 32:26.511 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% through the entire plant that way so both application method 32:26.611 --> 32:30.214 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% may have impact in how that's going to influence the alarm. 32:30.315 --> 32:31.816 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% And you also sat out 32:31.916 --> 32:37.622 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% there and watched to see - We did. We did. So many 32:37.722 --> 32:40.658 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% another major project and 32:40.758 --> 32:43.528 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% major experiment this project is to try to 32:43.628 --> 32:46.564 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% figure out, well which of these 32:46.664 --> 32:48.967 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% ornamental plants are actually attracted to a 32:49.067 --> 32:53.237 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% pollinator because if you go online you can find within 32:53.338 --> 32:56.574 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% five minutes, five, ten fifteen different lists 32:56.674 --> 32:59.911 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% of bee friendly ornamental plants. 33:00.011 --> 33:02.947 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Are they really bee friendly? Is it just based on 33:03.047 --> 33:04.716 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% observation or was it some kind of 33:04.816 --> 33:07.452 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% data. And what we try to do is 33:07.552 --> 33:11.622 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% really look at the data behind that. And one other 33:11.723 --> 33:13.758 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% point about these particular study is we don't 33:13.858 --> 33:17.328 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% just pick any plant. And what we do is 33:17.428 --> 33:21.332 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% that we go to USDA agriculture survey 33:21.432 --> 33:24.969 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and take some of the top species of plant that 33:25.069 --> 33:28.940 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% were most widely produced within the United States 33:29.040 --> 33:30.875 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% because if they are most widely produced, 33:30.975 --> 33:34.112 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% meaning that there are more people gonna buy them. Yes. 33:34.212 --> 33:37.415 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% More sticking in the ground. So 33:37.515 --> 33:40.318 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% what we tried to figure out really to two things. One thing 33:40.418 --> 33:43.755 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% is how many of them are to actually pollinator 33:43.855 --> 33:47.158 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% attractive. So one day 33:47.258 --> 33:49.494 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% we could make recommendations and say hey 33:49.594 --> 33:52.897 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% it they are growing a bee friendly or 33:52.997 --> 33:55.400 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% pollinator attractive, these are the plants 33:55.500 --> 33:58.202 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% they can get. And another thing would be 33:58.302 --> 34:02.340 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% to really help with EPA in the registration process 34:02.440 --> 34:07.311 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% to tell them, all right not every plant uses this. 34:07.412 --> 34:09.047 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% Not hundred percent of the plant 34:09.147 --> 34:12.517 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% species that were produced are impacted by these 34:12.617 --> 34:15.820 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% applications. You should probably look at 50% 34:15.920 --> 34:19.357 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% 25$ or however many percent that 34:19.457 --> 34:23.561 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% is attractive to pollinators and focus on those instead of 34:23.661 --> 34:26.998 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% looking at 100% And you looked when you 34:27.098 --> 34:31.402 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% made your counts of how attractive they were you 34:31.502 --> 34:34.172 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% also didn't just look at say 34:34.272 --> 34:37.875 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% bees or pollinators in general, you broke it down 34:37.975 --> 34:40.511 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and classified that as well. So it was a really 34:40.611 --> 34:43.648 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% in depth study. It's a very in depth study and 34:43.748 --> 34:46.884 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% it's not just conducted in South Carolina. We conduct 34:46.984 --> 34:51.856 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the same experiment in California, Connecticut, 34:51.956 --> 34:55.993 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Michigan, Pennsylvania and South Carolina as well. 34:56.094 --> 34:59.297 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% And each garden basically grow 34:59.397 --> 35:02.567 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% anywhere from five to six different species within each 35:02.667 --> 35:05.636 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% species we have five to six different cultivars. 35:05.736 --> 35:07.672 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% So it's a pretty wide net. 35:07.772 --> 35:10.608 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% And what we do is basically sit up there 35:10.708 --> 35:13.277 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and do something that entomologists love to do which 35:13.377 --> 35:16.681 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% which is look at bugs, right! Sit out there stare at 35:16.781 --> 35:19.684 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the plants for five minutes for ten minutes just 35:19.784 --> 35:22.553 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% to see how many of these pollinators come and visit the 35:22.653 --> 35:27.792 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% flowers. And we write them down. We don't just say butterfly 35:27.892 --> 35:30.695 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% or bumblebee. We say very specifically instead of 35:30.795 --> 35:34.298 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% bumblebee instead of honey bee, instead of sweat bee 35:34.398 --> 35:38.002 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% or instead of miner bee. So we actually do a much more fine 35:38.102 --> 35:42.306 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% tuned. By fine details, I can you typically say 35:42.406 --> 35:45.443 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% pollinator friendly. Well I think in this case 35:45.543 --> 35:49.780 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% JC your results would give someone who 35:49.881 --> 35:55.386 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% was concerned about that, some reassurance about 35:55.486 --> 35:57.622 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% bringing home plants that have been grown 35:57.722 --> 36:00.758 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% specifically for people to add to their gardens. 36:00.858 --> 36:03.895 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% And the results were kind of 36:03.995 --> 36:07.798 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% surprising in that, there was a small 36:07.899 --> 36:13.070 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% kind of a small subgroup that really was attractive to 36:13.171 --> 36:16.607 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% the pollinators. Right. So what the way we 36:16.707 --> 36:19.710 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% look at that is, we define pollinator, the 36:19.810 --> 36:22.113 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% attractiveness of pollinator behind the 36:22.213 --> 36:25.183 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% pollinators was actually attractive within the five 36:25.283 --> 36:28.386 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% minutes period. And we kind of classified 36:28.486 --> 36:32.423 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% as low, medium and high in some way: somewhat 36:32.523 --> 36:35.793 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% attractive or unattractive and highly attractive. 36:35.893 --> 36:39.197 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% And what we're finding is that all the plant 36:39.297 --> 36:42.767 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% species that were produced in this country, less than 10 36:42.867 --> 36:45.603 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% percent of what we produced can be 36:45.703 --> 36:48.673 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% considered pollinator attractive. And the rest of the 36:48.773 --> 36:52.109 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% 90 percent, they attract very few pollinators 36:52.210 --> 36:55.313 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% if any at all. Do you think that ten 36:55.413 --> 36:58.950 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% percent is now produced with some different 36:59.050 --> 37:02.653 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% methods sometime? Or are they just not produced so 37:02.753 --> 37:06.824 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% often? What effect did you think the information you 37:06.924 --> 37:10.027 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% were able to come up with my have on what is being 37:10.127 --> 37:13.164 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% shipped to the stores? So what we're trying to find 37:13.264 --> 37:16.500 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% out- so I think the way we saw 37:16.601 --> 37:21.205 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% can be used is to inform the growers 37:21.305 --> 37:24.809 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% what can you do to affect that? So if you are 37:24.909 --> 37:29.847 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% growing a plant that is highly attractive to pollinators 37:29.947 --> 37:33.084 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% then you probably do not want to use any 37:33.184 --> 37:35.186 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% insecticides that can be 37:35.286 --> 37:38.923 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% detrimental. Alright! And that would include 37:39.023 --> 37:42.026 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% work and that will also include organic phosphate and 37:42.126 --> 37:45.396 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% regrowth. But if you're growing the 37:45.496 --> 37:49.367 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% other 90 percent of the plants. You probably would 37:49.467 --> 37:52.036 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% have a little bit more freedom. as far as what you 37:52.136 --> 37:59.944 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% could use. And it basically comes down to cause and benefit, 38:00.044 --> 38:04.915 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% risk and benefit analysis. And you would say okay it's a 38:05.016 --> 38:08.486 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% high risk plant, I'm not going to use this. It's a lowest risk 38:08.586 --> 38:12.657 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% plant maybe I can use that. So what we try to do is 38:12.757 --> 38:15.626 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% really develop kind of the information the growers 38:15.726 --> 38:18.929 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% can use to actually make the pest 38:19.030 --> 38:22.333 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% management decision. JC 38:22.433 --> 38:24.802 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% there, this product although it 38:24.902 --> 38:29.740 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% does have its own set of concerns, that we have to 38:29.840 --> 38:32.910 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% be cautious and aware of it and try to minimize 38:33.010 --> 38:36.580 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% whenever possible, as you said. It certainly is an 38:36.681 --> 38:40.151 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% improvement over the straight nicotine based 38:40.251 --> 38:44.221 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% products and the organic phosphates, is that 38:44.322 --> 38:48.025 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% correct? Correct. As for safety? Correct! 38:48.125 --> 38:50.961 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Okay. So the organic phosphate a little bit 38:51.062 --> 38:54.065 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% history here I guess. So a lot of 38:54.165 --> 38:57.134 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% organic phosphate actually developed right after the 38:57.234 --> 38:59.837 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% first and the second World War. They were actually 38:59.937 --> 39:04.809 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% first developed as poison nerve gas. 39:04.909 --> 39:08.579 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Oh my goodness! Used for warfare. and some of them we 39:08.679 --> 39:12.750 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% actually used for controlling pests. So if you look at 39:12.850 --> 39:15.486 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% that history you're going to know some of these organic 39:15.586 --> 39:17.388 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% phosphates actually had very high 39:17.488 --> 39:21.959 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% toxicity. Because it really used to kill people. 39:22.059 --> 39:24.862 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% And now they are used in the chemical. 39:24.962 --> 39:27.298 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% Alright JC! I want to thank you for 39:27.398 --> 39:29.467 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% this information and I hope that we can come 39:29.567 --> 39:32.336 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% back to you and do another talk with 39:32.436 --> 39:35.940 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% you about the other parts of the industry 39:36.040 --> 39:39.577 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% that it's used in. And that would be in field crops 39:39.677 --> 39:43.114 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and in turf management as well. I think that would 39:43.214 --> 39:45.249 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% be a good topic for another chat if you 39:45.349 --> 39:48.319 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% think you might be able to make time. I look forward to that. 39:48.419 --> 39:50.988 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Thank you so much JC. Thank you Amanda. 39:53.758 --> 39:57.795 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% JC also, while we were fortunate enough to 39:57.895 --> 40:00.030 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% you catch hold of him, because he's so involved 40:00.131 --> 40:03.267 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% in research, we taped another interview with him. 40:03.367 --> 40:05.503 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Next week we'll have more information on this 40:05.603 --> 40:08.239 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% subject. Thank you JC for sharing you 40:08.339 --> 40:10.307 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% information because there's a lot of 40:10.408 --> 40:14.345 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% confusion about this. Teresa let's get another question, 40:14.445 --> 40:17.648 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% shall we? Sure well keeping with the tomato theme, 40:17.748 --> 40:22.319 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% someone would like us to recommend a variety or a few 40:22.420 --> 40:25.723 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that would be most successful and also tasty. 40:25.823 --> 40:27.591 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% And wondered, they see all these 40:27.691 --> 40:30.060 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% alphabet letters on the plant tags, what do all 40:30.161 --> 40:35.933 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% those letters mean? Alright, Mr ABC Zack, 40:36.033 --> 40:41.739 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% help us out here. Alright, so there are tons and 40:41.839 --> 40:46.577 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% tons of tomato varieties but typically on homeowners 40:46.677 --> 40:49.580 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% limit it to ones that they see on the shelves in 40:49.680 --> 40:53.083 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% stores. And so you know there are a lot more 40:53.184 --> 40:55.653 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% variety than those. And I recommend 40:55.753 --> 41:01.025 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% some of those as well but what I tell people and what I 41:01.125 --> 41:04.061 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% think happens a lot is when you grow tomatoes, 41:04.161 --> 41:07.631 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% typically they'll die or get a disease later in the summer. 41:07.731 --> 41:09.800 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% We really need to pay particular attention to 41:09.900 --> 41:12.136 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% that. And focus on the disease and 41:12.236 --> 41:14.638 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% what killed them because we can better battle those 41:14.738 --> 41:17.107 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% diseases next year. The worse thing is to grow 41:17.208 --> 41:20.110 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% tomatoes all season and it loads up with fruit and then it 41:20.211 --> 41:23.714 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% dies or wilts all of a sudden. So knowing kinda what you're 41:23.814 --> 41:26.517 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% going to battle against is the first thing I tell 41:26.617 --> 41:30.087 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% people, it's better to have some tomatoes than no tomatoes. 41:30.187 --> 41:33.724 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% So that's the first line of defense. The alphabet 41:33.824 --> 41:37.161 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% letters that Terasa was mentioning what those mean 41:37.261 --> 41:40.331 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% is it tells you what disease package or resistance 41:40.431 --> 41:44.768 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that variety or cultivar tomatoes has. And so it's 41:44.869 --> 41:47.805 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% really important to know what disease you're battling. 41:47.905 --> 41:50.341 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% A really common one is N. or sometimes 41:50.441 --> 41:53.878 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% it'll say Arcadian which is root-knot nematode. 41:53.978 --> 41:56.046 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% That's a big one because a lot of people, typically 41:56.146 --> 41:59.416 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% plant in the same spaces over and over. And those 41:59.517 --> 42:02.953 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% nematodes can really stop your plants and keep them 42:03.053 --> 42:06.524 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% from going to their full potential. Another one and we 42:06.624 --> 42:10.027 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% have on the coast is called bacterial wilt and southern 42:10.127 --> 42:13.931 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% blight. They're very similar symptoms but two totally 42:14.031 --> 42:16.166 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% different modes of resistance so you need to really 42:16.267 --> 42:19.169 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% differentiate between those two diseases. 42:19.270 --> 42:22.339 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Some of my favorite varieties celebrity is a pretty 42:22.439 --> 42:24.808 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% good variety in the home garden and it's widely 42:24.909 --> 42:28.879 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% available in stores. It has nematode resistance as 42:28.979 --> 42:32.349 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% well as some verticillium resistance. 42:32.449 --> 42:35.753 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% And it also has tobacco mosaic resistance which is a 42:35.853 --> 42:38.722 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% good thing and something we certainly see in home gardens. 42:38.822 --> 42:42.893 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% My favorite tomato personally as far as taste goes is the 42:42.993 --> 42:46.096 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Cherokee purple. It has absolutely no disease 42:46.196 --> 42:49.199 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% resistance. But, you know, plant 42:49.300 --> 42:51.569 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% 15, 20, a hundred extra if you have to 42:51.669 --> 42:55.539 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% share. (laughing) But that is the best tasting tomato out 42:55.639 --> 42:58.909 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% there. It's won award after award for the taste 42:59.009 --> 43:01.645 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% but it's an heirloom that they think the Cherokee 43:01.745 --> 43:04.682 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Indians passed down to the Europeans when they came 43:04.782 --> 43:08.586 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% here so that is a very, very, very good, tall variety. 43:08.686 --> 43:11.422 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Well, so if you can get your hands on one of those 43:11.522 --> 43:16.026 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% if you find some produce dealer who's got some, even 43:16.126 --> 43:18.796 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% if you pay a lot, it's worth it because they sure are 43:18.896 --> 43:22.199 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% tasty. Thanks Zack. That was really 43:22.299 --> 43:25.936 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% great. Okay, Terasa what else have we got on our list. 43:26.036 --> 43:29.340 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Well Laura Lee was speaking earlier about pollinators, 43:29.440 --> 43:33.811 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% beneficial insects. This is a concerned viewer who has 43:33.911 --> 43:37.414 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% what she thinks is a wasp, flying around a mulched area 43:37.514 --> 43:41.719 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% of the patio. It seams to just hover around all day pretty 43:41.819 --> 43:44.855 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% big and is black and white and she's wondering 43:44.955 --> 43:46.690 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% if she should be concerned. 43:46.790 --> 43:49.426 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% What could it be and should she do anything about it. 43:49.526 --> 43:52.997 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% Well Laura Lee, this sounds kind of 43:53.097 --> 43:55.799 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% peculiar what do you think is going on? Well, 43:55.899 --> 43:58.969 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% there are social wasps and there are some 43:59.069 --> 44:02.940 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% solitary wasps. Some Wasps will build 44:03.040 --> 44:07.277 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% nests and will sometimes defend 44:07.378 --> 44:14.885 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% their territory. The solitary wasps will 44:14.985 --> 44:20.524 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% take a caterpillar or an insect and sting that insect 44:20.624 --> 44:23.827 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and put it into a hole so that insect can now feed 44:23.927 --> 44:30.267 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% the eggs or the larva when they emerge from the egg. 44:30.367 --> 44:33.303 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% Having a solitary wasp 44:33.404 --> 44:38.375 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% of some type generally do not sting. 44:38.475 --> 44:41.879 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% They might be a little bit territorial but 44:41.979 --> 44:47.051 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% they're very beneficial. So try not to zap them. 44:47.151 --> 44:50.220 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Thank you Laura Lee, cause we really do when you said it's 44:50.320 --> 44:52.690 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% getting caterpillars and things that can 44:52.790 --> 44:56.427 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% wreck such havoc in our garden that's a good tip to 44:56.527 --> 44:57.995 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% know. We sure do appreciate your sharing 44:58.095 --> 45:02.966 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that information with us. And now as those of you who've 45:03.067 --> 45:04.968 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% been watching and being friends with us for a 45:05.069 --> 45:09.206 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% long time know Katie Dickson. And Katie is now at Magnolia 45:09.306 --> 45:12.543 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Gardens in Charleston. And I want to remind 45:12.643 --> 45:14.678 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% people that many of our public gardens are open on 45:14.778 --> 45:17.715 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% a limited basis. Magnolia, Middleton, some of the 45:17.815 --> 45:21.018 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% ones of historic Columbia and other places in 45:21.118 --> 45:23.320 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% the state. And they certainly need your support 45:23.420 --> 45:27.791 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% during these times when they are limited in what they can offer. 45:27.891 --> 45:29.927 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% But Katie has a pollinator garden 45:30.027 --> 45:32.062 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% that she started in the middle of the 45:32.162 --> 45:35.666 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% parking lot at the apartment complex where 45:35.766 --> 45:38.001 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% she lives. And I declare I think you're going to 45:38.102 --> 45:40.838 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% enjoy seeing what she's done. So let's go visit Katie Dickson 45:40.938 --> 45:42.573 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% down in Charleston. 45:44.408 --> 45:50.848 align:left position:50%,start line:93.33% size:50% ♪ 45:50.948 --> 45:54.518 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% I'm visiting Katie Dickson. Katie is someone we 45:54.618 --> 45:57.421 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% always loved talking to and she now is the 45:57.521 --> 46:02.025 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% floriculturist at Magnolia Gardens. And what 46:02.126 --> 46:04.795 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% does that mean exactly? 46:04.895 --> 46:08.732 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% So my role at magnolia is to be the horticulturist that 46:08.832 --> 46:12.469 align:left position:12.5%,start line:0% size:87.5% focuses primarily on the annual flowering 46:12.569 --> 46:17.441 align:left position:0%,start line:0% size:100% inspiration. A lot of our high traffic areas around kiosk, 46:17.541 --> 46:23.814 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% walking trails and the flower areas are now my responsibility 46:23.914 --> 46:26.250 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% and I'm having so much fun with them. That's fun because 46:26.350 --> 46:29.720 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% annuals can be really, really colorful. and I know that 46:29.820 --> 46:32.689 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% people enjoy them and you get to again have a 46:32.790 --> 46:35.259 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% wonderful palette to work with, don't you. 46:35.359 --> 46:38.395 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% That's right and I'm very lucky that we have a situation 46:38.495 --> 46:40.931 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% at Magnolia where we can grow a lot of 46:41.031 --> 46:45.402 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% annual material in house from seeds or cuttings. 46:45.502 --> 46:49.173 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% So I feel like I'm able to go 46:49.273 --> 46:53.377 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% in the morning to shop for what I need. How fun! 46:53.477 --> 46:57.114 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% But you're living in an apartment outside of 46:57.214 --> 47:00.751 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Charleston and you said there was a 47:00.851 --> 47:02.686 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% community garden that kind of gone by the 47:02.786 --> 47:05.722 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% wayside. So tell us what the situation was and 47:05.823 --> 47:08.425 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% what you've been doing to try to revive it. 47:08.525 --> 47:11.895 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% Yes certainly! This has been kinda an 47:11.995 --> 47:14.965 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% experimental type of project for my husband and I 47:15.065 --> 47:18.368 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% actually. Some of my family members live in the same unit of 47:18.468 --> 47:21.371 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% in this same housing development and 47:21.471 --> 47:24.842 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% we noticed that a lot of 47:24.942 --> 47:30.214 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Summer vegetable crops in the community produce area here 47:30.314 --> 47:33.183 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% have fallen by the wayside like you said. Family stopped buying 47:33.283 --> 47:36.086 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% in and checking their crops so we decided to try to 47:36.186 --> 47:39.323 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% revive it by planting lots of annual and perennial 47:39.423 --> 47:41.291 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% flowering varieties because 47:41.391 --> 47:45.028 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% we figured if we could bring pollinators back and get 47:45.128 --> 47:48.131 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% some buzz and activity going maybe the humans would buy in as 47:48.232 --> 47:51.201 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% well. And we found that has been working. 47:51.301 --> 47:54.404 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% It probably doesn't hurt that 47:54.504 --> 47:58.475 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% the recent health crisis and pandemic has given people extra 47:58.575 --> 48:01.411 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% time. It's really beautiful to see everybody 48:01.511 --> 48:05.449 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% interacting in the community garden and it's being revived. 48:05.549 --> 48:06.617 align:left position:37.5%,start line:93.33% size:62.5% (laughs) 48:06.717 --> 48:10.053 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Well, did you have to do a lot of prep work to get 48:10.153 --> 48:13.023 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% your little space back into production? I 48:13.123 --> 48:16.360 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% mean I imagine it had gotten a little weedy and maybe 48:16.460 --> 48:20.030 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% all that stuff. Yeah we definitely got 48:20.130 --> 48:22.332 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% good arm work outs. Getting a lot of 48:22.432 --> 48:25.435 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% crabgrass and florid betony and all of that 48:25.535 --> 48:28.238 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% fun stuff. We're very fortunate that the soil is 48:28.338 --> 48:33.911 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% still pretty fertile and colorful and the wood 48:34.011 --> 48:38.815 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% structures had not warped yet so we were really 48:38.916 --> 48:42.619 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% set up for success. Do y'all have water out there? We do. 48:42.719 --> 48:45.022 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% We have a source of fresh water and that was tremendous. 48:45.122 --> 48:46.490 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% Cause I thought oh no 48:46.590 --> 48:51.395 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% we have to do this. It can take forever. So no... 48:51.495 --> 48:53.997 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Well, tell me some of the fun things 48:54.097 --> 48:56.133 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that are growing and blooming out there. 48:56.233 --> 49:00.037 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Certainly. So in our family plot which is just a plant and 49:00.137 --> 49:03.907 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% flower production of pollinator attractions, 49:04.007 --> 49:06.610 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% right now we have all kinds of 49:06.710 --> 49:10.447 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% annuals like cosmos, some pentas, zinnias 49:10.547 --> 49:15.419 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% We've got sunflowers which are the showstopper. 49:15.519 --> 49:21.425 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% A lot of pictures of those. And we've got some avolonias 49:21.525 --> 49:24.828 align:left position:37.5%,start line:86.67% size:62.5% all kinds of different textures and 49:24.928 --> 49:27.497 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% different colors going on at the same time, which is what you 49:27.597 --> 49:33.036 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% want is a mosaic wall, because you'll attract 49:33.136 --> 49:36.540 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% more than one type of pollinator species. Yeah and also different 49:36.640 --> 49:39.376 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% flower structures because I mean even the tiniest little 49:39.476 --> 49:41.611 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% flies have their own place in that big food 49:41.712 --> 49:44.214 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% web that we're trying to work on. 49:44.314 --> 49:47.784 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Yeah and so also so that means that the cucumbers 49:47.884 --> 49:50.287 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and things that your fellow residents are 49:50.387 --> 49:52.389 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% planting in the more traditional gardening 49:52.489 --> 49:54.591 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% vegetable gardening spots now that got in the 49:54.691 --> 49:57.561 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% middle of this apartment complex, they've got all 49:57.661 --> 49:59.730 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% these pollinators to come over and do the necessary 49:59.830 --> 50:04.334 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% work for them. That's right and I'm so thrilled 50:04.434 --> 50:06.737 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% that especially the younger generation the 50:06.837 --> 50:10.907 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% children of the families can start making connections 50:11.008 --> 50:14.745 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% that's the beneficial insects will pollinate the crops with. 50:14.845 --> 50:20.417 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% And not only do they get a good food source for the next year 50:20.517 --> 50:22.552 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% and what not for pollen and nectar, their getting 50:22.652 --> 50:26.823 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% carbon sugars, we too get to feed off this mutual 50:26.923 --> 50:30.427 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% relationship. And so it's a cool family activity. 50:30.527 --> 50:34.965 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% and that the young ones can make those associations. 50:35.065 --> 50:38.869 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Gotta love science. Well it really does sound 50:38.969 --> 50:42.172 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% like a awfully wonderful thing to get to do and 50:42.272 --> 50:44.274 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% maybe you could take a few cuttings from some of 50:44.374 --> 50:46.443 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% those beautiful things out at Magnolia and 50:46.543 --> 50:48.745 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% slip some of those into this area as well because 50:48.845 --> 50:51.048 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% I know all the people out there are so generous in 50:51.148 --> 50:53.483 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% heart and spirit. It's a wonderful place, if you 50:53.583 --> 50:55.886 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% haven't visited it and we're so glad that you're part 50:55.986 --> 51:00.657 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% of their staff now. Oh thank you. So am I. It is a really 51:00.757 --> 51:03.226 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% solid team. A lot of creatives out there. 51:03.326 --> 51:05.729 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% we'll take good care and don't get too hot when 51:05.829 --> 51:07.831 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% when we get into the middle of summer. 51:07.931 --> 51:11.635 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% Be careful. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. 51:28.318 --> 51:31.121 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% It's good to see our friend Katie Dixon again. And we 51:31.221 --> 51:34.357 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% hope she'll share more of what she's doing the down there 51:34.458 --> 51:38.028 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% in Charleston. Perhaps more news from Middleton. 51:38.128 --> 51:40.430 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% I mean Magnolia. Both are beautiful but Katie 51:40.530 --> 51:43.467 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% is at Magnolia and she's having a wonderful time 51:43.567 --> 51:46.803 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% because she loves color and drama. What a perfect 51:46.903 --> 51:50.073 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% match of a job in a person. Well, Teresa let's get one 51:50.173 --> 51:53.577 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% more question in before we have to say goodbye to everybody. 51:53.677 --> 51:55.679 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Well one of the benefits of gardening in South 51:55.779 --> 51:58.482 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Carolina is a long growing season. A lot of 51:58.582 --> 52:02.619 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% vegetables have already come and gone. What varieties 52:02.719 --> 52:05.055 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% vegetables can be planted now? 52:05.155 --> 52:07.991 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Well, Zack, if you can get out early and avoid the 52:08.091 --> 52:11.428 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% heat or go out late and just be kinda hot, 52:11.528 --> 52:13.263 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% what do you recommend people install in their 52:13.363 --> 52:15.465 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% garden now that they could still get a lot of 52:15.565 --> 52:19.503 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% use out of them and enjoy as summer vegetables? 52:19.603 --> 52:22.239 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Sure yeah the last thing people want to do 52:22.339 --> 52:24.975 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% this Summer year is get out in the garden and garden 52:25.075 --> 52:27.444 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% when it's 89%, 100% humidity 52:27.544 --> 52:30.580 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% and a 100 degrees. But you really have to start planting 52:30.680 --> 52:34.484 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% your Fall vegetable garden now in order to enjoy 52:34.584 --> 52:36.987 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% other vegetables in the Fall. So some varieties and 52:37.087 --> 52:39.990 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% things I recommend right now you could still probably get 52:40.090 --> 52:42.459 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% sweet potatoes if you could find slips right 52:42.559 --> 52:46.830 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% now. Okra would do well right now. And then you 52:46.930 --> 52:49.065 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% need to start thinking about 52:49.166 --> 52:53.370 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% around the first of July is planting a Fall tomato crop. 52:53.470 --> 52:55.705 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% The days are getting shorter from here on 52:55.805 --> 52:58.808 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% out but we still have the heat. So if you can get those 52:58.909 --> 53:01.311 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% tomatoes in and get em flowering and hopefully 53:01.411 --> 53:05.448 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% get some good pollination, we could produce tomatoes. 53:05.549 --> 53:09.452 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% What I like to tell people, crops in the Fall, like 53:09.553 --> 53:13.056 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% eggplant, okra and peppers you can re-tune those. That's a 53:13.156 --> 53:16.626 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% cool technique when you go in with whoppers and you cut them 53:16.726 --> 53:19.162 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% about eight to twelve inches off the ground start 53:19.262 --> 53:21.798 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% to fertilize them again, start to water them 53:21.898 --> 53:24.201 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% again and they'll fruit again for a Fall crop. 53:24.301 --> 53:26.903 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% So that's a really good way to save space and a little bit 53:27.003 --> 53:29.973 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% of time going into the Fall, trying to get some more 53:30.073 --> 53:32.375 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% production out of those crops when you do 53:32.475 --> 53:34.211 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% it in the Spring. And then do you 53:34.311 --> 53:36.680 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% think a lot of the garden centers this year with 53:36.780 --> 53:38.582 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% everyone so interested in gardening will still be 53:38.682 --> 53:41.551 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% having some transplants out there? 53:41.651 --> 53:44.521 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% Yes I think they're going to produce a lot of 53:44.621 --> 53:48.258 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% transplants cause gardening was super hot this past year. 53:48.358 --> 53:51.161 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% It almost I mean it really did get hard to find seed, 53:51.261 --> 53:53.830 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% especially on some of the more popular varieties. 53:53.930 --> 53:56.299 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% The local stores here in Charleston. 53:56.399 --> 53:58.802 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Hopefully people are catching the bug and 53:58.902 --> 54:00.971 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% this is something that continues every year not 54:01.071 --> 54:04.908 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% just a one off type thing. Zack and you and I did a 54:05.008 --> 54:09.913 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% podcast talking about tomato diseases and that will be at 54:10.013 --> 54:13.683 align:left position:12.5%,start line:93.33% size:87.5% SC public radio and 54:13.783 --> 54:16.953 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% then we'll also have that to share with our viewers 54:17.053 --> 54:19.289 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% in the future. But in the meantime I think they can 54:19.389 --> 54:21.358 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% find that at SC Public radio because you 54:21.458 --> 54:23.526 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% really shared a lot of good information there. 54:23.627 --> 54:26.096 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% And you said you really need to kind of be early. 54:26.196 --> 54:28.665 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% We've got just about a minute left. You said you 54:28.765 --> 54:31.034 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% need to be early and spotting, and treating some of 54:31.134 --> 54:34.638 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% these things. Yeah and so if you have 54:34.738 --> 54:37.307 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% problems or issues with things in the past, 54:37.407 --> 54:39.609 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% you need to kind of take note of that and 54:39.709 --> 54:43.046 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% especially in the Fall you got really hot days. Our plants are 54:43.146 --> 54:45.348 align:left position:0%,start line:93.33% size:100% stressed to begin with. Yes 54:45.448 --> 54:47.250 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% And then typically we'll have a tropical 54:47.350 --> 54:51.087 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% depression or storm or heavens we don't have a 54:51.187 --> 54:52.956 align:left position:25%,start line:86.67% size:75% hurricane but you know we have a lot of 54:53.056 --> 54:56.760 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% moisture, humidity in the air and those diseases just love 54:56.860 --> 55:00.397 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% that type of tropical air. It can really spread and get out 55:00.497 --> 55:03.733 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% of hand fast. So my advice to people is to get 55:03.833 --> 55:05.835 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% your crops in early. Get them on time. 55:05.935 --> 55:08.438 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Fertilize them correctly so they're growing at the 55:08.538 --> 55:12.475 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% right rate. And really you know pay attention to 55:12.575 --> 55:14.744 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% the bottom leaves your tomatoes and peppers and 55:14.844 --> 55:16.913 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% things, because that's where a lot of your disease 55:17.013 --> 55:19.649 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% starts at the bottom of the plant where you don't get as 55:19.749 --> 55:24.287 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% much airflow. And so diseases kinda start there. So being 55:24.387 --> 55:27.891 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% proactive is probably the best measure you can 55:27.991 --> 55:30.126 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% do in the garden when it comes to diseases and 55:30.226 --> 55:33.063 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% also insects for that matter. Well thank you Zack and I 55:33.163 --> 55:36.066 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% want to remind people that at Clemson HGIC 55:36.166 --> 55:38.902 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% we have fact sheets on many things, including 55:39.002 --> 55:41.805 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% tomato diseases and then you can take pictures and 55:41.905 --> 55:44.607 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% send them there and talk to people if you need to. 55:44.708 --> 55:46.443 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% Thank you so much for joining us tonight. 55:46.543 --> 55:49.612 align:left position:12.5%,start line:86.67% size:87.5% We really appreciate the time that you spend on 55:49.713 --> 55:52.916 align:left position:0%,start line:86.67% size:100% our Facebook page. We enjoy when we're with you. 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